Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Textual Healing: Ex-pectations

Episode Date: June 8, 2025

We've got a special new episode you this weekend! Normally on this show we try to HELP make a romantic connection but coming in today’s Textual Healing one listener wants us to make it clear she wants NOTHING to do with a guy that’s supposed to come over to her house later!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast, Betrayal. Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone. Most of all, his wife, Caroline. He texted, I've ruined our lives. You're going to want to divorce me. How far would he go to cover up what he'd done? The fact that you lied is absolutely horrific. And quite frankly, I question how many other women are out there

that may bring forward allegations in the future. Listen to Betrayal on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and then climb that mountain. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify, the

thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever thought about going voiceover? I'm Hope Woodard, a comedian, creator, and seeker of male validation. I'm also the girl behind voiceover, the movement that exploded in 2024. You might hear that term and think it's about celibacy, but to me, voiceover is about understanding yourself outside of sex and relationships. It's flexible, it's customizable,

and it's a personal process. Singleness is not a waiting room. You are actually at the party right now. Let me hear it. Yes. Listen to VoiceOver on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of times big economic forces

show up in our lives in small ways. Four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has gone up. So now I only buy one. Small but important ways. From tech billionaires to the bond market to, yeah, banana pudding. If it's happening in business, our new podcast is on it. I'm Max Chastin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. So listen to everybody's business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast,

or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, no Sunday scaries when you got a full new podcast to listen to, right? None of that here. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning and you have found the second-dated update podcast. And today on Sundays, we always like to feature a new segment that we've done during the week. And this one is textual healing. That's where somebody may need our help texting someone

for whatever reason, and we step in. Those texts can be hard, especially when they're with your ex. Which is today. Yes, which is today. But before we get to it, what's a fun comment for today? Audrey said, so happy I got recommended your podcast. I watched The Conjuring recently and haven't been able to sleep

Relevant but anyways, I play your podcast and it always makes me crack up Is crazy. Yeah, that's scary. I won't watch it I stopped watching scary movies when I live by myself. Oh, I couldn't do it again after that I never watched scary movies and the first one that I have like, okay, I'm gonna do it. Let's watch this one Maybe we should stop talking about it because remember she got About to find out new episode starts right now on this show we're always trying to get people together Whether it's two of our listeners for a second date. Yeah, or hooking up our digital producer, Jake, with Brooke's mom. Wait, what?

Hey! We are constantly trying to make love happen. She's scared. Don't mean anything? Okay. It's about love, Brooke, and it takes a lot of work doing it every single day. Yeah, for sure.

That's why, thank God we have a woman on the phone who wants us to do the exact opposite. Oh! She needs to make it clear no love will happen between her and one dude who's coming over to her place later. Uh oh. And this particular situation is extremely awkward for her.

You'll understand why she needs our help when we do some textual healing coming up next. It's getting stronger and stronger Will I get that feeling? Textual healing, textual Most people who need help texting are 96 year old grandmas who can't figure out which side of the iPhone is the touch part. Huh Jeff, what'd you say? But occasionally regular folks need assistance with texting too, when they're in an awkward predicament and they aren't sure what to write.

Oh, I thought we were going to be talking to one of our 95-year-old listeners. Yeah, well, it might be. That's the whole reason we created this segment, Textual Healing, where we assist listeners of all ages, grandmas to newborns. There we go. And we help them craft the perfect message and who's emailed the show today requesting our Textual expertise or tech expertise. Her name is Briana Briana. Welcome to the show. Hi. Thank you I appreciate you taking my call. You're welcome Briana and we're gonna be taking your tax

Yeah, possibly. Oh, I see what you did Brianna tell us about what's your awkward situation? Why do you need our help? So I just don't know what to say and I'm hoping you guys can help me. So I had a guy over for a date That's not the problem That is a good thing to say But he found a gold chain in one of my bathroom drawers That is a good thing to say when you're calling our show. Yeah. Perfect. Let me just start that right there. Okay. But he found a gold chain in one of my bathroom drawers. It's a long story, but I look at it and I realize it's my ex-boyfriend's. Oh. Yeah.

Dude, I can't believe your date was snooping in your bathroom drawers. Well, no, I asked him to get something out for me. Oh, okay, okay. That's good. Is it expensive gold chain? Because I wouldn't get rid of it then either. Yeah, how thick was it? Was it like a thin one or what? Well, it's real gold like it's real but um, it's something I would have thrown out except that his grandmother gave it to him Like it's got huge sentimental value. Oh my gosh, you gotta give it back to him I know but he won't see now you're kind of getting to exactly my problem because I texted him and I said hey

I found your change you want to come grab it and he sends me back this text and he's like, oh sure you did You can just say you want some of this with like one of those little smoky winky But in his defense you did say you want to come over and grab it that can be Yeah, I did definitely set myself up for that one and part of how I set myself up for it was that two months ago His air pods were still here. We broke up about three months ago. And after about a month, I found his AirPods and I texted him to stop by and grab them.

Again, same kind of thing. And he came over and we ended up hooking up. Yeah. Oh, okay. So there's precedence for this now. I mean, when is it not? Unfortunately. If your ex is gonna come over,

it's just bound to happen. It is. Okay, keep your exes away from Brooke's house because it's just definitely gonna happen. okay keep the access away from Brooks house well it's just definitely gonna happen that's why you got to meet in a place like a parking lot or parking lot with a gorgeous view so I just I need to be able to text him in a way that he knows it's like no that's not what I want I just want you to get your stuff okay And he says he's coming over at six tonight, like he's already said straight up that he's coming over.

I understand why his response was the grab it thing then. Yeah, it makes sense now. Yeah, he's thinking that you're trying to set it up again, but can't you just tell him like, no, I'm just gonna leave it under my doormat, I'll be like away from home? I could, but I just don't want it to get stolen because like I said, his grandmother gave it to him, so that's why I didn't just put it in the mail. Can

I ask? Yeah. Is there any part of you that kind of wants to hook up with him when he comes over? No. Just checking. Just making sure that's all. Okay. No I mean that's a fair question but yeah if you've been there the last time you would have understood why. No I do not want to. What was the last thing that was said between you two? The last thing was that he was gonna come over at six. And he said, I'm gonna give you something of mine too. Oh my gosh. Yeah, it was kinda gross. He may show up naked.

Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay. So the wheels are already in motion. You're trying to make it really, really clear to him that nothing is gonna happen and there's no lingering feelings there. Right, like you're not coming inside.

I'm just gonna hand it to you at the door. Peace out, go have a great life. This should be easy. Yeah, boy. You should just be able to say, hi, I don't have a lot of time. That's it. I think you need more than that.

I think you need to say, I'm short on time. I've got a date at 6.30. Yeah. I was going one up for that. A fake boyfriend already. You already moved on. Oh, dang. All right, all this is good. But then does that not make me I'm short on time. I've got a date at 630 Already Sounds like you're trying to make him jealous a little bit like My pants. You have 30 seconds. I have to change.

No? That would probably take care of it, yeah. Let's hope he doesn't have a rebuttal for that. Can you be like really direct and say, I think you're reading too far into this. I mean, yeah. Just be like, you don't flatter yourself. Yeah. Or you really want him to leave you alone.

You say, well, last time was pretty disappointing, so I don't want to go down that road again. Honestly, that's how my friends text their act And that would not be a lie so So yeah, let's let's be direct sprinkle a little bit of honesty in there too and okay, so you're bad in bed. Yeah I want him to take it as a personal challenge to be like, uh-huh Probably should sprinkle a little bit of humor in there too just to lighten the blow So if you're like, whoa slow down Romeo last time didn't go so well you're reading too far into this Okay, I just want to hand it off at the door. Like that's it. How about last time didn't leave me wanting more. We're good

Gonna hand it off at the door like that's it. How about last time didn't leave me wanting more. We're good Yeah, I still feel like if you put yourself in a short time window Yeah, I only have two minutes, you know something like that. Is it right? You got a helper now? Yeah, I think it might because I didn't say so he was known as like I'm coming over tomorrow at 6 Like I didn't invite him over. Okay, I can say I like the one that Brooke said last time didn't leave me What did you say I said last time didn't leave me wanting more. Yeah, we're good. We're good. Okay I feel this is gonna be really simple He should read that and go oh, okay. No worries see at six. Did you send it? Yeah, okay? This may be the most boring Yeah, okay

I mean that would be the smoothest textual here than we ever did but I can't believe I'm hoping for boring as we continue If he responds to that when we continue Textual Healing right after this. Hold on. For just joining us, we're in the middle of Textual Healing with our listener Brianna, who recently found her ex-boyfriend's gold chain in her bathroom drawer. And the chain has sentimental value because his grandma gifted it to him, so she can't just toss it out or pawn it on eBay like most of us would. And she's actually a really nice person. Yeah I mean she's being much kinder to her ex than I would have ever. Yeah. Oh what would you do bro? Because you said you would

hook up with him. Yeah well I mean. That she'd steal the coin. That could also be punishment. Oh that's true in your case sure. But when she texted him to come by and get his chain, the ex assumed that was an invitation to exchange more than just jewelry. Well, because of what happened last time he stopped by. Because last time he forgot his AirPods or something, and they ended up hooking up. So he is coming by later today, which is why Brianna needs

help making it clear. There will be no romance happening, tonight not the next night not ever Yes, so Brooke came up with the text idea of sending him honestly last time didn't exactly leave me wanting more We're good. Just get the chain It's harsh now That was the goal. Yeah, yeah, Brianna has your ex responded to that Yeah, he did he did. Oh gosh Smile in your voice. Yeah. Yeah, he wrote ha ha ha well I'm with someone new now anyway, and she doesn't have any complaints

Oh That's good, you both win in that sentence There you go, so he's got somebody else Congratulate him and say I'll see you tonight, right? Clearly he's trying to make her jealous by pointing out that he has a new girl Oh, it didn't work on us though But it doesn't work on her cause No, I'm just pointing out like the point of his

The ex boyfriend is trying to push back on you clearly Okay, does that upset you that he's with somebody else? No, I just Look, I just texted him back real quick because he's just acting like a child We're supposed to craft one together to text back to acting like a child. He was just telling you these in a relationship Well, I think you're right though. I think he was just trying to make me jealous. Oh pretend. It's real go What do you know? What did you write? Oh, no, I just wrote. Where did you find her the animal shelter like? I mean it is kind of funny, but it's not productive

Yeah, we don't want to get like into a fight with him right you kind of escalated this I didn't escalate No, no, no, no, I didn't escalate this he escalated by bringing up some girl Yeah, and actually if we really want to point fingers Brooke is the one who came up with the first text And it was kind of sassy and that started off this whole chain I think the more we get into this more I'm starting to feel that you still have feelings Brooks projecting again feelings for you guys need closure Brooks projecting again I just say no no no no no no no miss Brooke no I do not want to get back together with him I do not have feelings for him that is that is a big fat no we should have said the fake boyfriend thing first Now you've already sent the animal shelter comment has he responded back he did What did he say it's not bad it's just stupid it's like

Somebody sounds jealous. I can bring her with me and we can just act like adults and I get my necklace Playing the mature card right you guys' fights were like when you were dating. Yeah. Yeah, who's the petty one and who's like... So mature to bring your new girlfriend to your ex-girlfriend's apartment and parade her in front of you. I meant a mature burn. Like, why don't we all just be adults here? I'll bring... it's like a sarcastic... Like, you're being petty too.

Totally. I'm jealous of his sarcasm level. I love this too much. You do. This is the world, huh? Yeah, okay. So what do we write back to respond to that with? Totally jealous of his sarcasm. I love this too much So what do we write back to respond to that with I actually already texted him The segment you call this for help I don't care anymore

What did you say I just I just said please really don't bring her over here I don't need her over here because I already had the apartment sprayed with You are really good at burns I'm trying well shoot. No, you got a for a pass. She's some sort of cockroach or something Yeah, Oh trust me believe me. He's probably worse than that if he's dating her she's probably worse than that Okay, but you were dating him at some point. So doesn't that make you on the same level as her? Yeah, but you know he was batting out of his league when he was with me He said oh you you gotta be kidding me. He said, she's not gonna be with me,

but I'm gonna bring my overnight bag just in case. What? Oh, he's gonna cheat on her? Now we went back to him hooking up with you? Yeah, what? He got off track there. He's willing to say whatever he can get. Don't write anything back yet, Brianna, okay? Okay, okay. Don't write anything back yet Brianna, okay

Don't write anything. We want to help you craft this next text one I don't think this girlfriend even exists to be honest. I think she's made up that might be true Okay, it might be true, but at this point he thinks he's coming over and he's gonna stay the night Yeah, because they're both being sassy back and forth. There's like a tension thing going on Brianna what are your thoughts right now? Like what are you? Back and forth there's like a tension thing going on stop the tension does anybody know Briana? What are your thoughts right now like what are you? Well like I'm thinking about it, and I'm like you know what it's fine I can handle this like he can just come over and watch a movie or whatever, but that's it Now you're gonna invite him in to watch a movie with you

Yeah, because then that way he can see it's like okay You know for the movie, and then he's gonna like close in and I'm gonna be like peace out you need to go Yeah, ten minutes that I've known you I Think it'll be fine. I really do I think if you just come over and you can take your shirt off come inside And then nothing will happen. I promise And then nothing will happen You don't understand I've already said like I'm not gonna do anything. Oh, yeah, you're gonna come over And I'm gonna kick him the beep out You set those boundaries strong

Exactly Like I'll just keep you guys posted on what happened. Okay, I think we know what's gonna happen But if you want to call us and confirm it, that would be great You know what you can say that but trust, you are going to be shocked and amazed because I am not doing anything. I'm kicking him out. I would be shocked and amazed if that actually happened. Honestly, all of us. I do feel like she's going to find another item of his

in two more months. Yeah, that's true. When you want your second date update with your ex-boyfriend, we'll be here, okay? She has a sock for you. Guys are crazy. All right, so we, okay, so at this point, we started with you wanting to tell your ex-boyfriend

that there is no chance of any romance, you could just get his chain. Now we're inviting him inside the apartment to watch a movie with his pants on. So then kick him out again. Yes. Yeah. That is a good point. But, Oren Cuddling, you better not kiss that much. We're in a good place.

Well, I'm sorry, but that sounds like a good plan to me. All right. As long as you're happy. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast Betrayal. Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone. Most of all, his wife, Caroline. He texted, I've ruined our lives.

You're going to want to divorce me. Caroline's husband was living another life behind the scenes. He betrayed his oath to his family and to his community. She said you left bruises, pulled her hair, that type of thing. No. How far would Joel go to cover up what he'd done? You're unable to keep track of all your lies. And quite frankly, I question how many other women

may bring forward allegations in the future. This season of Betrayal investigates one officer's decades of deception. Lies that left those closest to him questioning everything they thought they knew. Listen to Betrayal on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify,

the thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain, this is the struggle, this is the thing that's in front of me. You can't make that mountain move without actually diving into it. May is Mental Health Awareness Month, a time to conquer the things that once felt impossible and step boldly into the best version of yourself to awaken the unstoppable strength that's inside of us all. So tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional wellbeing and climb your personal mountain. Because it's impossible for you to be the most authentic you. It's impossible for you to love you fully. If all you're doing is living

to please people, your mountain is that. Listen to Made for This mountain on the iHeart radio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts? Well, I've actually got an update. Oh my god An update from Brianna. She wrote to us. She said dear Brooke and Jeffrey Thanks again for your help. Although I didn't really need much advice from you I really appreciate you having me on the show and hearing my story. Okay she thinks she doesn't need advice. But she says, I wish she would have listened to us. She says FYI he did come over we watched a movie and nothing happened. She does go on and say but the next morning something did After he spent the night I held off for a very very long time though, so give a girl some credit

Almost what a full 24 hours. She just needs to lead into it She says that was the last time ever so I hope he enjoyed it Love always your fan Brianna. I can't wait for our next update for three months. Oh hooked up again I found a paperclip you left over here. Oh My god, but hey if you ever need help with texting with your dating dating life, with anything, you can always email the show. We'll reach out to that person for you. I'm Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast Betrayal. Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone.

Most of all, his wife Caroline. He texted, I've ruined our lives. You're going to want to divorce me. How far would he go to cover up what he'd done? The fact that you lied is absolutely horrific. And quite frankly, I question how many other women are out there that may bring forward allegations in the future. Listen to Betrayal on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner

struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being and then climb that mountain. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. Listen to Made for This Mountain

on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever thought about going voiceover? I'm Hope Woodard, a comedian, creator, and seeker of male validation. I'm also theard, a comedian, creator, and seeker of male validation. I'm also the girl behind Boy Sober, the movement that exploded in 2024. You might hear that term and think it's about celibacy, but to me, Boy Sober is about understanding yourself outside of sex and relationships.

It's flexible, it's customizable, and it's a personal process. Singleness is not a waiting room. You are actually at the party right now. Let me hear it. Listen to VoiceOver on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of times, big economic forces show up in our lives in small ways. Four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has gone up. So now I only buy one. Small but important ways.

From tech billionaires to the bond market to, yeah, banana pudding. If it's happening in business, our new podcast is on it. I'm Max Chastain. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. So listen to everybody's business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. DNA test proves he is not the father. Now I'm taking the inheritance.

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