Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Textual Healing: Fired By Stylist

Episode Date: January 29, 2026

The woman on the phone today is being dumped by someone WAY more important than a boyfriend, she got a weird text from someone she THOUGHT was a close friend. It’s a mess and she wants our help ...with some Textual Healing!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:28 It's Brick and Jeffrey. We've got a new episode. Textual healing is just when a listener writes us and has an issue where they just don't know how to respond. You know, they're kind of at a dead end. And so this person needed our help and it is a doozy. We're going to get to that in just a second, but comments. Yeah, Gil Ferguson said, in all caps, OMG, I'm out of episodes. I've been binging for eight months and I'm finally caught up.
Starting point is 00:02:51 What am I supposed to do at work now? Work? Ew. Well, listen, we always have our full show podcast too. If you're that type of glutton for punishment, you can get a full hour of this every day. Or go to our socials at Brick and Jeffrey and just stalk us there. Go way back. Keep scrolling.
Starting point is 00:03:09 We got you, Gil. We got you. All right. Your brand new episode for Gil. Starts now. We all know the answer for how to handle a really bad breakup. Girls' night. Hey, boss.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Hey, how you doing? Yeah. Just one evening out with Strz. strong, poor drinks and weak-minded men, and you will be forgetting all of your problems. Oh, yes. But what do you do if the person who's dumping you is way more important than any dumb boyfriend ever could be?
Starting point is 00:03:42 Oh, no. One of our listeners says that's exactly the position that she's in after she got one text from somebody she thought was a really close friend. And now she's wondering, how do I even respond to this? Hey, boys. Hey, how you doing? Brooke, no, remember, it's not that kind of breakup. But it may still help.
Starting point is 00:04:02 No, I don't think so. You're going to hear it in a brand new textual healing coming up. Next. Textual healing, textual. Welcome to textual healing. All right. The segment where we take your so-called complicated life problems and instantly fix them for you with one simple text message. Yes, it is that easy because we help you craft the perfect message to make all of your issues and problems melt away like a tasty handful of off-brand Xanax.
Starting point is 00:04:43 That's what we do for you. This feels too good to be true, Jeff. Like you've forgotten all the other textual healings that we've done. Maybe it's the handful of Xanax that I just took. But we do have a woman on the phone right now. I don't know anything about her, not even her name. I just have a note here saying this is a last second emergency desperate situation that she's in, and she would really like our help with it.
Starting point is 00:05:08 So, hello, listener. Welcome to the show. Who are you? Hi, this is Janelle, and I would really appreciate some help. I got a really upsetting text, and it sort of feels like I've lost my best friends. Not quite, but it feels that way to me. Oh, my gosh. Okay, Brooke, first of all, you need to calm down a little bit because she said it's like her best friend.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Not her actual best friend. I have like 12 best friends. Okay, they are all equally important. Okay, there's no time to brag about that stuff. Best friends are integral to a happy life. But she said, is this an actual friend of yours or it's just friend adjacent? What is going on? It is a friend, but it's a professional relationship as well.
Starting point is 00:05:51 So basically, I got fired by my hairstylist. Is that the text? Wait, can I ask? Is that the text that you just got? Yes. I got it last night, and she basically told me she doesn't want me as a client anymore. No. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:06:08 That's my dream. Dude. That just happened to me when I talked about mine on air. Yes. She told me I can't come back. What did you do, Janelle? How long did you? I did nothing, and I don't understand because I always tip her really well.
Starting point is 00:06:20 I'm sweet to her. We get along. I've been seeing her for about six years. Okay, wait, wait, wait, though. Did you bad mouth her behind her back somewhere? because I'm sorry. Hair stylists are the queen of gossip. They know everything that's happening at all time.
Starting point is 00:06:35 This was out of nowhere. We didn't even have an appointment scheduled or anything, but it said, let me read it to you, verbatim. Hi, I've really enjoyed our time together, but I don't think I'd like to take you on as a client any longer, period. Did she put an emoji, like a tear-eye emoji at least? No, tier-dice. Nothing, not even like smiley and men of nothing.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Not even the girl hair flipping. Hey. Oh, what heck? This sounds serious. No hair emoji, nothing. So I have not responded yet because I didn't know how to even take this. I was like, what? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Well, it sounds like you're feeling upset and like let down. Yeah, even more. Like, she sounds devastated to me. Yeah, I feel like this really hurt my feelings. Because again, as I said in the beginning, like, I consider this woman a friend, you know, again. Well, I pay my friends too, so I get. that feeling. No, my hair's, I've been with my hairstylist for over a decade and she is a friend of mine. Like, Brooke, it's not a competition. No, I'm telling you. If I got that text message, I would also,
Starting point is 00:07:41 like, I would be beside myself. And it's not just because I couldn't find someone else to cut my hair. Like, that's not it. It's like, it is such an intimate relationship with her hairstylist. Like, you share, I really confided in her. Yes. Okay. And I'm wondering if I should be taking this Personally. Oh, you should. Well, okay. Hair stylists don't do anything that's not personal.
Starting point is 00:08:05 And to be honest, I've never heard of them losing a client. Like, it takes forever to build a client list and to have a consistent amount. So for her to say, I don't want your business. It's pretty big. Yeah, there's got to be some sort of explanation, and she's not providing it, it seems like. And that's what you're going for here, Janelle?
Starting point is 00:08:22 You want to ask her, what's the reason? I want to respond in, like, the right way without seeming. like I'm flying off the handle like, oh, you really hurt my feelings. How dare you? What did I do? Oh, that's going to be my exact thing. I want to like craft this in the right way, my response, which is why I haven't responded yet, which is why I'm asking you.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Okay. We can tell that you're very clearly emotional about this. I do. But we're going to do our job and get you some textual healing right now. Help you craft the right message to her to figure out politely how to ask the reason why she's letting you go from her client list. Now, I don't have an idea because I personally don't ever see the same hairstylist ever twice. I was going to avoid that.
Starting point is 00:09:06 A relationship with women and their hairstyle sometimes is even deeper. Yeah, I can understand that. I would defer to Brooke or possibly Alexis for the first thoughts here. I think you should lead with humor. Honestly, because like what if you're reading it wrong for some reason? I don't know how you can misconstru her message, but what if you just said? My roots weren't that bad last appointment, were they? You know, like a haircut joke.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Yeah. Okay. Right. I say, like, I promise I didn't use box color. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I think that's funny.
Starting point is 00:09:42 You're like, girl, I swear I didn't cut my own bays before I saw you. Right. That's an option. Or you could also play the pity card and be like, are you sure? because I had three of my dogs run away this week. Also, my dad says he wants to re-divorce my mom. Oh, my gosh. That's also kind of funny.
Starting point is 00:10:05 It's always like I'm working a hairstyle. She's like, tell me more. Yeah, she's going to want you back in that chair. That's not bad. What if you lean into what Alexis is saying with the gossip and be like, no, you can't yet because I haven't told you what happened with X. Something you ended up last time talking about. Oh, I like that.
Starting point is 00:10:21 just to intrigue her. I mean, I just wonder if there's something personal going on with her, and if that would like a little bit of humor might warm her up. You'll be able to tell on her interest level if she wants to know the T. Yeah. You know? So you're worried there's going to be something personal about you. What does the room think?
Starting point is 00:10:39 Like, what are the percentage chances that this has something to do with something Janelle did? Or what's the percentage? It's something not related to her going on in just the hairstylist's personal life. Janelle. to know. 99% I mean, honestly.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I don't like to hear that, but I hate to say it. I think you guys that the way she phrased it in her text is I don't think I'd like to take you on as a client any longer. Yeah. Yeah. Is anyone else optimistic if there's a 1% chance she's intimidated by her? Like, oh my God, that coat you wore last time was so much better dressed than I. Do you think a 1% chance is optimism?
Starting point is 00:11:14 Yeah. Yeah. You guys were 99% in your fault. I'm optimistic. It's not your fault. And it's something to do with the. weather. Hairstylists are always the prettiest girls in the room.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Yeah, they're not intimidated. Okay. I appreciate your optimism, Jose. Yeah, sorry for it. All right. So we're obviously running out of time here. We need to get one text through. What are you going to write to your hairstylist, Janelle?
Starting point is 00:11:37 I think I'm going to go with the little gossip humor thing. That's an attempt to diffuse the situation a little bit with humor. And remind her that you guys are friends. I mean, it's a reminder that you're more connected. than just the client relationship. Perfect. So we are officially out of time now. So, Janelle, you're going to have to go ahead and text that message to her on your own about,
Starting point is 00:12:00 I have gossip for you. You have to hear it. And then we'll come back. And hopefully she's responded to it. And you've reeled her back in when we do more textual healing with the hairstylist who fired you coming up right after this. Okay. We're in the middle of textual healing with our listener, Janelle, who has. a professional and what she thought was a close friendship with her hairstylist of the past six years.
Starting point is 00:12:28 The issue is last night she received a random text that said, I'm sorry, but you're fired. You cannot be my client anymore. We're not even her client. I feel like we all winced when he said that. She was just canceling an appointment. She is canceling all the appointments. Yes. And there was nothing else with it.
Starting point is 00:12:49 No emojis attached. no explanation for why. So Janelle turned around and urgently sent a message to our producer and here we are trying to help her get an answer and maybe even get her hairstylist back.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Yeah. We're going to win her back. That's what we're going to do. I'm fully confident. I know nobody, we never said that was a possibility in the first part, but I think Jose's relentless optimism came through. Seeped through my clothing down into my heart. The 1% did that. It did. It made me believe.
Starting point is 00:13:22 You may make her too happy. And she's like, I can't focus on anything else other than you after you leave. Too much sleeping. I'm losing the optimism now, Jose. Okay. So we don't even know what text message she actually sent. Janelle, what did you end up writing to your stylist after she said she's letting you go? Here's what I ended up sending her.
Starting point is 00:13:40 And she is typing back as we speak. Oh, okay. Oh, that means it's going to be a long one. What did you say? I said, are you sure? because I have something juicy to tell you it's about my mother-in-law. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Mother-in-law smart. I didn't think it would work, but I couldn't hear in that. I'm interesting. I know everybody wants to know the tea, don't they? Yeah, I can always come up with some tea about my mother-in-law. I was going to ask that. And how do you respond to that in a negative way? You're being fun and playful,
Starting point is 00:14:11 even though that could be a really hurtful text message that she said. Okay, okay, something has come through. Okay. Waiting here This What? What? That's exactly the problem
Starting point is 00:14:22 Your mother-in-law is my client now What? Shut up My mind is totally bono The betrayal if she chose her I don't even know how this happened Do you have a backstabbing mother-in-law
Starting point is 00:14:37 Is this the problem? Did she go in there and stir some stuff up? Oh like the mother-in-law came in and started gossiping about you? I told my mother-in-law that I went to this salon But I didn't even tell her that I saw this particular silent. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:14:50 I guess I still don't understand. Clearly, there's a tension going on between the three of them of some sort. I mean, I think we're done with the pleasantries. You need to, like, go and straight out. Like, why? Why would you choose her? No, and you need to say, what did my mother-in-law tell you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Can we assume that that was? Oh, yeah. Clearly. Okay. Now we can talk about their mother-in-laws. Mother-in-laws talk about that. I mean, for any life issue, just assume the mom-in-law is behind it. Okay, I'm going to write, why would you choose her?
Starting point is 00:15:16 over me. I'm typing now. Okay. Why would you choose her over me? I've been your client for six years. Yes. Angry, angry. Angry face emoji. No, not angry. Yes, angry face. Three fists. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:15:30 No emojis. No emojis. No emojis. Yeah. I want to know what kind of BS that mother-in-law is spreading. Oh, wow. Okay. No emojis. Just curse words. Okay. Okay. I sent it. Okay. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:15:44 I can't imagine what you're feeling right now, Janelle. and she's writing back already. So she's definitely on it. And we're going to see what she says. Oh, my gosh. I am dying. Oh, I can't. Oh, this is freaking me out.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Okay, I came through. She writes, oh, my God. What? Grace, I'm sorry. This is awkward. But she told me some interesting things about you that don't line up with my values. so we should just say goodbye.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Oh, it's like a world thing. Whoa. Your mother-in-law gossiped to your stylist and said that your values are off. That is messed up. You've got to throw the mob-in-law under the bus. That's the only option right now. I wonder what she said.
Starting point is 00:16:32 You need to say this. You need to say values. Let's talk about values. Because that woman, okay, and then whatever you need to say after that. I think it's going to be an audio message on text. This is good, Brooke. When they go low, you go lower.
Starting point is 00:16:42 That's right, Jeff. When it comes to the mother-in-law. All right. Let's undercut mom-in-law. I'm just going to write. What values is she saying don't align with yours? I would like to know. And I'm going to add on whatever she said to you, it's a lie.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Yes. Yes. You don't even know what she said, though. It doesn't matter. You let her know that you literally can't with this woman. That this woman is affecting, I mean, come on. A mother-in-law is getting you kicked out of your own hairstylist salon. I sent it.
Starting point is 00:17:12 I sent it. Oh, man. We're in the middle of it. And we got to do a whole other segment of you texting your mother-in-law next. I think Brooke is releasing some of her own. I look so excited for that segment. I hate that stuff. This is so weird.
Starting point is 00:17:27 I did not even know my mother-in-law went there. This is like no good deed. Like I recommended the salon to my mother-in-law. This is what I get. Yeah, you better to be careful. You're going to lose your dentist. You're going to lose your dermatologist. Your children.
Starting point is 00:17:40 I'm definitely not recommending anywhere. I wouldn't recommend a grocery store to that woman. I mean, oh my God, this is crazy. Oh, my God, she texted back. Okay. Ooh, I'm scared. Oh, boy, wait and hear this. She says, I don't want to go into it, but in terms of how you treat people in the service industry.
Starting point is 00:18:02 What? E.G, no tipping above 15%. Your mother, why? Your mother-in-law said that about you? Yeah, apparently she told my stylist, who knows. That's how I kept already. I mean, this is not news. Wait, for years.
Starting point is 00:18:19 You don't believe in tipping above 15%? 15% is pretty standard. And 20% is like really like really over. Brooke, you're staying awfully quiet over there, not defending, not defending this. This is weird. I'm just processing. Oh, really? You're on her side, aren't you?
Starting point is 00:18:34 No, I, okay, listen. You believe in no tips. Okay. 5% isn't it, Brooke. Okay. Okay, listen, this is what you're going to do. Don't you? This is what you're going to do.
Starting point is 00:18:44 If this is important to you, just be like, that is not true. I swear I will only tip you 20% from here on out. But it is true. Like, I never tip more than 15%, but I always tip. And she's known that. Maybe she's been waiting to find an excuse to get rid of you that. That's a good actual point. I don't know that this is even the mother-in-law's fault anymore.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Do you know what probably happened is that your hairstylist was complaining to your mother-in-law about how you don't tip? Oh, now. And then the mother-in-law said, well, that's what she does. She never tips over 15%. Well, what do you now? Do I fire my mother-in-law? You can't.
Starting point is 00:19:22 You got to tip her more. You got to tip more. But it's an expensive haircut. And I'm sorry, too, we are out of time for the segment. So, Janelle, if you do want to fire your mother-in-law over text message, you can come back again. But I don't think it was the mother-in-law's fault. Now you're pro-mom-in-law? Why are you going on the place?
Starting point is 00:19:41 I maybe went a little too. heart too soon. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze. Her husband, Mike, was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever.
Starting point is 00:20:03 I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately, the mask came off. You're supposed to be a lot. be safe. That's your home. That's your husband. So keep this secret for so many years, he's like a seasoned pro. This is a story about the end of a marriage, but it's also the story of one woman who was done living in the dark. You're a dangerous person who prays on vulnerable and trusting people.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Your creditor might go up and good. Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. New Year, new goals, and in this economy, a better money plan is more necessary than ever. I am Matt, and I'm Joel. We are from the How to Money podcast, and every week we help you to spend smarter, save more, and make sense of what's going on out there. If you want 2026 to be the year you finally feel in control of your money, we're here to give you the tools and advice to help. you make it happen. Listen to How to Money on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brooke, what happened there at the end to you? You were 100% on our listener's side the whole way,
Starting point is 00:21:23 rallying the troops to go scorched earth on mother-in-law's all over the world. And then suddenly, whoop, total 180, your pro-mom-in-law. You know, it's just sometimes I may make choices before I have all the information. Yeah, that's not great, is it? And you know, it's okay to say I was wrong. Sure. That's a rare thing for us to hear. I say it all the time. I mean, you can't be this opinionated and not also be okay to say and you're wrong. You can't do both. I must be deaf when she says that.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Yeah, I never reaches my ears. She says it under her breath at her desk, probably. No, I talked to Alexis about it. Oh, okay. I hear a few times. I will say the weirdest part was after the break. You went and bragged to our producer about how much you tip to your stylist personally. You did. You went in there and you said it's all under the table.
Starting point is 00:22:09 so quote the government can't get our money. I heard it. I was in the room. I pay her mortgage every month. He asked me how much I tip and I told him. You're such a frown. You did have a smug look on your face, though, when you gave him the answer.
Starting point is 00:22:25 But that's okay. You can tip as much or as little as you want. We're not here to judge you. And her hair sales is on salary. Yeah. Salary. But we can't always try to help you with the issues going on in your life.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Reach out to the show. Find us on email at Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. And subscribe to our podcast, Brooke and Jeffrey. In the middle of the night, Sasquia awoke in a haze. Her husband, Mike, was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever. I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately, the mask came off.
Starting point is 00:23:01 You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband. Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Joel and Matt from HowTo Money. If your New Year's resolution is to finally get your finances in shape, we've got your back. Prices that are still high and the economy is all over the place. But 2026 is the year for you to get intentional and make real progress.
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Starting point is 00:24:23 This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather. In 1995, my neighbor and a trainer disappeared from a commune. as nature and trees and praying and drugs. So no, I am not your guru. Back then, I lied to everybody. They have had this case for 30 years. I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth. Listen to the red weather on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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