Brown Bag Mornings - 03/19/26 – HIGHLIGHTS of Brown Bag Mornings: Ray J Goes Off 😤 & Pastor WWE Sermon 😂

Episode Date: March 19, 2026

Description / SHOW NOTES 🎬 The crew kicks things off with a look at the Oscars red carpet and standout moments. 😤 Ray J jumps into the drama surrounding Brandy’s past and calls out multiple n...ames, taking things to another level. 😂 A viral pastor and his yelling translator have the internet locked in like it’s a WWE match. ☎️ In Homie Helpline, Fern returns with an update after testing the waters playing house with his baby momma before their trip. ✊🏽 Plus, Dolores Huerta speaks out after decades, as new allegations surrounding Cesar Chavez spark serious conversation about his legacy. CHAPTERS / TIMESTAMPS (00:00) Don’t You Know I’m Local: Oscars red carpet highlights (03:38) Chismation: Ray J responds to Mase & Shyne drama (08:42) Scrolling with the Homies: Viral pastor & translator moment (11:07) Weather with Concrete Storm: Thursday March 19th, 2026 (12:06) Homie Helpline: Fern’s baby momma vacation update (21:26) Chismation: Dolores Huerta speaks out after 60 years Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Highlights are brown bag This is Be Real from Cyprus Hill Where are you from, Esse? Don't you know I'm local? All right, the Oscars just went down last Sunday. But man, I wish I knew and was as smart as this woman. What she did after the Oscars? Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:00:23 To her carpet? What this woman's carpet? Oh, wait, wait. Do they match the drapes? Yeah, I was about saying. But. This young woman named Paige Thalia, she had moved into a new apartment and was looking for carpets for her apartment. She said, dude, like the one that I had and that I wanted for my salon, my living room was like about 500 bucks.
Starting point is 00:00:43 But she remembered a couple years ago that she saw after the Oscars, they would throw away the red carpet, which is 900 feet long and 33 feet wide. They cut it up and they throw it away. So she went searching for it on Monday. She's just so smart. She went searching for it on Monday and found the carpet being thrown away in dumpsters behind the El Capitan Theater. And she got her hands on it. Check this out. And I walked up to one of the security guards.
Starting point is 00:01:15 There's a bunch of people around. And I just said, I have an insane question. Can I have some of that red carpet? And she said, yeah, go for it. So you think this is where Michael B. Jordan and Timothy Chalameh stood on Sunday night? One can hope. All right. All right. Now, I'm going to tell you right now, the carpet looks a little project.
Starting point is 00:01:28 It is. Okay. Does it? No, no, no, because they, I don't know what they cut the carpets with, but it's just tears. Like, because they have to make this thing fit. It's not in a few long. That's to make it fit in the dumpsters. So they're just cutting it in like oblong shapes.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Like, it's just like, it looks kind of like wavy and stuff. It's not, it's not like a perfect square or rectangle for her apartment. But it's still a red carpet from the Oscars. Yeah, that's still cool. Check out the video. Brownback Morning's 106 on Instagram. She is receiving a little bit of backlash because she's doing the interview with the news station, descalza.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Like, she has bareful on the red carpet. And it's like, but I don't know. Well, we never know. Maybe she washed it already. I don't know. Maybe. You wash a carpet. That's super hipster.
Starting point is 00:02:07 That's so cool. Very hipster. Just like, look, bro. 2026 red carpet. Timit Chamele was right here. Or like, I need a carpet. Very resourceful. Let me go.
Starting point is 00:02:16 That's her diving. Which is a thing. I don't know if you've ever done. I remember doing it when I was little with our nanny. Ugly carpet. It's red, bro. Yeah, it's nice. It's legendary.
Starting point is 00:02:26 You walk into somebody's house and they have red carpet. It's not a red carpet. carpet. It's the red carpet. Exactly that. Come on. And just for a year's sake, because you probably never bought a carpet. I have for your studio. Okay, do you know how expensive they are? Yes, very expensive. Exactly. Yeah. So even like that square footage or whatever, like she got that she got it to fit her apartment, that's, that's a win. A win is a win, brother. Free is free. Ugly. All right. You guys ever dumpster dive? No. I remember my nanny used to take us dumpster diving when we're little. Uh, the senora that would take care of us. And she would throw us into the dumpster.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Like, what do you find? What'd you find? It would be for her. We, like, never kept the things about it. Oh, damn. She had to all work. Yeah, it was tight. Leticia, did your dad know or your mom? I don't know. I can ask them. Yeah. I never did, but it seems kind of fun. My mom said she always found Barbies in there when she was a kid and she would dumps her dive. The key is going to places that like, you know, like, they have throw away things that are really good, but they have to throw them away. Oh, okay, okay. She, we would go to like a paper company for some reason, like because it's like things in back. You were still in social security numbers. That's what I was thinking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:33 That's what it was. Official documents? She did disappear. Zool would come here? Now what's going on? She's Mason with Angie. Okay. You know how yesterday I was talking about how Cameron was being messy again,
Starting point is 00:03:49 talking about how Mace and Shine dated brandy at the same time in the 90s, right? Yeah. All OG rappers kids, by the way. Yes. So apparently. Rage actually heard that and he is not having it because he actually responded and he's mad
Starting point is 00:04:03 because Brandy is his sister and he's mad about it. Listen. I will not tolerate it and neither will LA. Bloods, crips, essays, smokers, crackheads on Figueroa, everybody. The gagency always talk about something about something. You clowns. Cameron looking
Starting point is 00:04:21 like he fresh off a stroke. This fool went a lot on his stream and he was just calling them out. He kept saying other things? Yeah, that I cannot Disclose. Yeah, this close. But this full, I was just thinking
Starting point is 00:04:33 I'm like, okay, I thought you were sick and you were dying. Like, why are you on stream and talking about all this stuff? He is, though. I don't know, Lafee, the way that he's talking about, like. You can be sick and threatening people.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Yeah. I don't know. It doesn't mean you're going to follow through. Yeah. But I feel like all the people he got involved aren't going to get involved. He just signed a bunch of people up for war.
Starting point is 00:04:52 I'm like, wait, hold on. The essays. What do they have to do with this? He said, I love Randy, by the way. She is vibes. Oh, no. Yeah, she's incredible.
Starting point is 00:05:00 She is. They're talking about Spank about Randy putting, like, I guess, bodies on her name and trying to make it like a whole weird love triangle thing. Yeah. Shine and Mace, both, I guess, at the same time, we're dating her reportedly. According to them, Shine has been saying that story over and over again. Like, in past interviews, he keeps saying that. And so after a Rager responded,
Starting point is 00:05:21 Shine actually clapped back with a post on his Instagram with the picture of himself, Brandy and Ray J using Rages I Hitted First song. So he's just trolling him at this point. Poor Brandy. I know. But also like, okay, shine, cool, rapper,
Starting point is 00:05:42 you know what I'm saying? Mace, you know, he was on top of the world. You know what I'm saying? It's like, no shame in like if you dated those people in your 20s. Like, that's not even anything that really get upset about. For who? Yeah, for who? What?
Starting point is 00:05:56 No, okay. It's getting upset that they're trying to say it at the same time, and we know how people make women out to be when that happens. Because no one's looking at her like, dang, she's a player. Because let this be a story where it's like, oh, yeah, one guy dated two bad girls in the 90s. Oh, you're a player. Right now it's like they're looking like she's a 304. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:15 I'm not looking at her any differently. No, not you, but people are. They're making a scene. So much that actually Brandy responded back and said, put out of a shine on Blass saying, like, I had a platonic friendship with shine. And because of this, now she's actually promoting a book called Faces that she's releasing later this month saying like, you know what? I always say, I always stay quiet, things like that. But this time, like, I'm going to tell my truth because people are just saying things about me.
Starting point is 00:06:40 They're telling stories for me. Let me say it. Okay, well, if she's going to lie, I don't want to read it. Be 100% honest, Brandy. 100%. About what? If she's going to say that they were just friends with they never dated, like, come on. Why is that a lie?
Starting point is 00:06:53 Why are we not believing her? If she's crazy. Why would they lie? Why would they lie? Why would they lie? Why would they lie? Oh my God, so many reasons. Why would they lie?
Starting point is 00:07:06 To be relevant to get in headlines because men, lie about things like this. Y'all have seen it. So you're saying that Shine went on 30 podcasts and lied to every single person he came across about dealing with Brandy in the 90s. And you're saying that Brandy's lying about it. She has reason to be like, I wouldn't. If I was her, I'd be like, yes, so what? Get over it.
Starting point is 00:07:25 It's crazy that you're saying this. How is that crazy? She dated two stars in her heyday while she was a huge star. No, we don't know. We don't know because the whole time. My thing is like, let her say it. I'm not going to discredit what she has said before she's even said it. She already said they were friends.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Let that be it. We're going to believe that? Yes, because she's literally saying, I will believe that. Greg, are you going to believe that? I'm going to believe it. Angie? Yes. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:07:50 I'm not going to put nothing on her name. I'm not going to put nothing on her name. This whole time, the only one that's actually been talking. and talking about it has only been shine. And this, like, they're just laughing about it. And Brandy stayed quiet. And that's why she's dropping her. And as reason why women don't speak out until years later.
Starting point is 00:08:06 And then men are like, why don't you say they did. Okay, so answer to this. Why did Mace not rebuke anything he said? He's sitting right there in front of him. He said, bro, you never dated her. What are you talking about? He would have known. He was dating her too.
Starting point is 00:08:19 I never watched. That's not on me. That's not on me why a man will not call out another man. Yeah, that's on them. That's on them. Hey, it happens all the time. Oh, my God. Men help out other men all the time.
Starting point is 00:08:32 All the time. Hey, I'm going to stay out of this, bro. I'm going to let you say whatever. You got to stay out of this. The whole time that's just laughing. It's called brocode. That part. See?
Starting point is 00:08:41 All right. The next time you go to church, you might want to bring your tables and chairs with you because it might turn into a WWE match. At church? At church. I don't make a lot of people go. Go 9-11. There is a church going viral.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Their name is Alk Grove Church. They're in the NorCal area, like the Bay Area. And they have a pastor, super passionate, super dedicated to his job. You know, they're very like, rah, rah, rah, rah. Yeah. But the translator, he just made everything better. Oh, why is it in another language? It is in another language.
Starting point is 00:09:16 He's yelling everything in Spanish. And I was like, yo, I'm ready for a lucha fight right now. Listen to this. You didn't get it. I'm going over on this high. No, no. me going to to be a
Starting point is 00:09:30 cursing if you spoke your way to a cursing if you're not a maldition you can also speak your way to a blessing I wish I had
Starting point is 00:09:39 a crazy folk I'd begin to say I'm blessed I'm blessed I'm blessed I'm blessed I'm delivered
Starting point is 00:09:49 I'm set free I'm just wanted I just want to That's so tight. Tell you. I'm ready. Yeah. You need to go to church more.
Starting point is 00:10:01 A lot of churches are like this, though. Not with the translation in Spanish, but a lot of churches get into that. I've been told that. And like, you know, I'm not a big fan of church because I just fall asleep a lot. But a lot of people are like, yo, you should go because they've changed a lot now. Yeah. That they're very just like, yeah, we push you more than just trying to. They judge a lot there.
Starting point is 00:10:18 I feel judge when I go. You judge everyone. We're judging you right now. Yeah. I don't think they're going to judge you there. Play a little bit again. Play a little bit. You didn't get it.
Starting point is 00:10:25 I'm going over on this house. No, he received you. Me going to be to this hell. If you spoke your way to a cursing. I thought you were going to say, if you smell what the Rock is cooking. I know. I thought it was going to be.
Starting point is 00:10:37 If you smell what the Lord is cooking. I feel riled up. Let's fight some demons. It's up in NorCal? Yeah, it's up in NorCal. Miles Minnie came up after. It was a whole thing. It's called Elk Grove.
Starting point is 00:10:47 It's called Elk Grove. It's a small town. Okay, okay. Turn up. Hey, anything I guess you to church, I'm all for it. I was sent. I send Greg, church memes. Oh, you do?
Starting point is 00:10:56 I send the video. Like, hey, see, let me yourself. Oh, Lord. Yeah. There's a better life for you, my friend. Yeah. Victory out. Really, told me.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Thanks, Greg. All right, let's get into the weather with concrete. And now, the weather. Oh, hell the dog. With concrete storm. But if those, it is going on for the weather, Thursday, March 19th. The first we're off to the magical city of Anaheim, where Angie calls it Anachrym.
Starting point is 00:11:23 93 degrees and 63 at night Next we cha-cha slide to the city of Santa Fe Springs Where an OG homies dance and pull a hamstring 94 degrees and 67 at night Now we push over to the city of our Hambra Where your catalytic converter disappears like abracadabra 94 and 68 degrees at night Lastly we hit the city of Silmar
Starting point is 00:11:46 A place where our very own Lethe became a real mom Yes 95 and 70 degrees at night. But it's like I said. Keep your waters nice and cold, man. It's going to be hot again. Again today. It's your boy Concord for Bomb Back mornings or Power 106.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Let's go. All right, check this out, homie. You need a homie or need some help. We need your help. We need a line. I mean phone line. We got you for the homie help line. Fern needs our help.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Fern. All right. Fern first hit us up about a month ago and he said, Hey, Brown Bag, I'm going on vacation with my baby mama and my kids. And I don't know what my girl will say about this. Should I un-invite my baby mama to save my new relationship?
Starting point is 00:12:37 Then a month later, he just hit us up and said that he broke up with the new girl and is now back with the baby mama. And now he needs our help. He's wondering if he is making a mistake by getting back with the new girl. baby mama or if he should keep the good feelings going with his family uh yeah johnny in south lea what's up johnny good morning johnny what's up what's so what's up what's on johnny to get back or not to get back with baby mama that is the question that our guy fern is asking us wow back with her so go ahead you let you let him know no no don't do it don't do it save y'all both the trouble
Starting point is 00:13:14 and save y'all both the future headaches because while everything good right now as soon as y'all open them doors. Some little arguments is going to turn it to big arguments. Right. Because you already got a fit path. So, like, it's just going to remind her about what you used to do, how you used to move, like, them little small things and it's just, it's only going to crash out. It's like it's going to be good for maybe like 30 days.
Starting point is 00:13:36 But someone's going to love and everything, get emotional. It's going to be over with. Tony, also in South LA. South LA knows a lot about this, apparently. Tony, talk to us. What would you tell friend? He wants to know whether he should get back or not get back with his baby mama. They were broken up for four years.
Starting point is 00:13:52 It seems they were co-parenting well. And now it seems like he's trying to, I don't know, run it back with her. What do you say? I want to say, I love you guys show. Love you back, Tony. Thanks, Tony. Oh, my God, my kids love you guys. On the weekends, they get so mad.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Like, we want to listen to Brown Bag. So I have to, like, get a podcast thing going. What a great mom. What a great mom, Tony. Talk to us. Hey, what's up? My little cut in my own. Oh, you're so cute.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Oh, hi, baby girl. What's your name? Yeah. Their name is Augustine Kavana. Let's go. Good morning. Good morning. Talk to us.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Tony, what would you tell? Yes, I say get back with your baby mama. What? Yeah, I say times is hard. And I kind of went through that situation before. And sometimes separation brings you guys closer. The only thing is when you guys get back together, you guys got to work out the stuff that you guys went through first.
Starting point is 00:14:53 So maybe go to like some kind of counseling just to get that stuff out the way. So you guys can start fresh. Yeah, like don't go back together and think it's a whole new relationship. It's the same person and you got to work out the kinks like because they will arise again. That's why they're on a 365 day trial. They're on a, that's crazy. So go to counseling. Yeah, go to counseling.
Starting point is 00:15:16 True. Yeah. Let's go wrong with that. Really give it that effort. I think he has to make sure that she didn't just want him back because he got a new girl. I think that's important. We don't care about no new girl. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:15:31 Yes, you do. She's telling her truth. Oh, my God. She wasn't nothing compared to the baby mama. Let's when you speak. Go ahead. We don't care about the new girl. We carry your kids.
Starting point is 00:15:40 That's something different. We're always going to have ties. These new people come and go. Tony, is your partner? Are you still with your partner or are you separated? All right. Kind of like what they're doing. Like the co-parent's hand, just trying to see where it goes from there.
Starting point is 00:15:59 And you don't care if he dates another woman. Oh, there's no dating another woman. All right. Let's go to Blue in Long Beach. Blue, what's up, Blue? Good morning. So, guys, good morning. Blue, tie to us.
Starting point is 00:16:13 What would you tell Fern? Fern is trying to figure out whether his decision to get back with his baby mama after they've been separated four years to get back with her is the right decision. He really didn't give us too much more. information like i wish i knew more from this fool but that's what he just wants your guys just take to get back with her or not get back with her my personal opinion is uh he used to check his both both of them their level of maturity because i feel that at first they're going to go through a honeymoon stage and then after that all the ghosts all the things in the closet are going to come
Starting point is 00:16:51 out, for example, like the hookups that they had or things that, say, for example, he did or she did that might maybe cause drama in the relationship at first. It might be beautiful and all, you know, lov-dovey. Glorious, let's say. I say this because I went through this. I split up with my baby mama for like about four years then I got back with her and everything was all good you know we have the kids we're our family and then I came later to find out that she was holding all these lives like very very like messed up things that happened and I would I say that I wasn't mature enough to to to to wish
Starting point is 00:17:46 that and it it hurt not gonna lie it hurt to find out all the stuff that she did and she was still doing actually damn so i think it all depends on on them on them and if they're honest with each other i think honestly is the best policy and if they keep it real with each other if they sit down and talk about um you know what has happened uh while they were not together and if they can come to an agreement, then go for it. You know, if they accept it. If something doesn't click, I say don't go for it. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:23 That's my opinion. But does that really matter, though? Does that really matter because they weren't together? So why does he have the right to say it? Say what, like bring up all that type of stuff that when they were hooking up with other people when they weren't together? Yeah, because we're people. It's still like you're past.
Starting point is 00:18:36 It's going to affect you. It still affects you to this day if like your ex be out doing something. See, it depends on it. But you know, like it's still. It still will affect you to this day. We're not together, though. But if you were to get back together. You don't want to know.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Yeah, at the time, you would not want to know. Hell no. No, you don't want to know, but if you found out, it would hurt you. If you did know, you would bring it up. Yeah, it's like what Vic said. Like, like, you don't want to know, but deep down inside, like, I mean, I don't think any man wants to know or see. Like, in my case, for example, I think for myself, I didn't want to see certain pictures that were sent to me or know of, things that she was doing.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Who sent them to you? People that she was hooked up with while we were not together. So she was still hooked up with them. They were hating on you. They were dirty mac in. Yeah. Yeah, they were like basically, yeah, they were literally telling me, hey, did your wife do this with you and then send me to them?
Starting point is 00:19:37 Damn. No. That's a different level. That's like a different. They were being missing. Yeah, for sure. I swear, man, I had to go to therapy. for that. And you said
Starting point is 00:19:46 like you couldn't get over that. Knowing like it was Gratnik, while she did that when you all weren't together it affected you when you were with her and you couldn't get past that. You do not want to see your eggs getting clapped or your partner getting clapped.
Starting point is 00:20:02 That was sent to you? I visually saw these pictures. They were sent to me. That is terrible. Blue. And she knew about this. And she did not tell me Like she knew
Starting point is 00:20:15 she knew you guys were getting close and she didn't tell you. Exactly. There you go. Oh, that's horrible. These are the things that I'm trying to like, what's the name? I'm sorry, what the guy's name? Fern. Fern.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Fern. Yeah. Fern. Fern. Fern. Think about all these things. If you're going to be okay with with all these things. Potentially seeing all of this.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or just a thing that happens. in the past, you know? Ferd, think about all the threesome she's had in those four years, Furn. Think about all the threesomes with the homies that she's had. And that could come back to haunt you.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Yeah, you know what she never did that with me, actually? Yeah, and that's what our guy is saying. That's what Blue is saying. Like, they hit him up. Like, she ever do this for you, bro? No, no, no, no. By the way, that's whatever they did is just as bad as what she did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Yeah. Because that stuff is like revenge pee and all of that. Oh, yeah. My revenge is right now It's going to therapy So when you go to therapy You don't need to be just like recycling the trauma Yeah, please don't
Starting point is 00:21:23 Take Blues advice All right Zoola come here Now what's going on She's Mation with Angie Yes let the you are right Because right now it isn't to We're getting into some serious stuff
Starting point is 00:21:37 Coming out about Cesar Chavez A man that a lot of people Do did look up to him But now his right-hand woman Dolores Warte is coming out what's that's coming out and saying things like that he actually abused her against her will in the 60s. Oh man. Now this is all part of a New York Times investigation where they took different reports from different other people that have accused him of things of this similar nature happening to minors and to women against their will. Neither is okay.
Starting point is 00:22:12 both are equally as evil and they interviewed 60 people corroborated evidence they have emails and all of that because new york times cannot drop something like this without being credible knowing what a figure sesar chavez the head of the united farm workers of america what he is and what he means to latinos and mexican americans all over okay so yes dolores querta was part of that investigation he was yeah and so she was saying you know she stayed silent for 60 years to protect the farm workers worker movement. And you're right, let me. She didn't mention that the reason that she came out and really spoke about it because New York Times was doing a multi-year investigation and was just revealing like different accusations, right? And I didn't want to read like because she did put out a statement. And I did want to share like a part that really stood out for me when she's talking about the times that she was abused by Cesar Chavez. She says the first time I was manipulated and pressured into having intercourse with him. And I didn't feel I could say no because he. was someone that I admired my boss and the leader of the movement I had already devoted years
Starting point is 00:23:17 of my life to. She then goes on to talk about the second time. She's like, the second time I was forced against my will in an environment where I felt trapped. And then from these two incidents, she actually did get pregnant and she decided to keep the babies, but she gave them up. And then she goes on to say, you know what, I was very fortunate to develop a deep relationship with these children who are my kids, of course.
Starting point is 00:23:42 they're also really close to my other kids. Wow. It's a hard decision, man. That's so crazy. I mean, just to think about that time, you know, the 60s, you know, women were not at all, like, you know, had like, like, you know, similar, like, rights or even just, like, anything close to what they have now, you know, there was no me to, yeah, it is. There was no Me Too movement or anything like that, right?
Starting point is 00:24:05 And to, you know, also her life's work was making life better for the United Farm Workers and things like that. And for the, you know, to take him down would have been to take down the entire organization. Yeah. Damn near. Especially at that time when it was so essential, a lot of people would have been affected. So she just kind of sat on that and kept it to herself and, you know, suffered in silence. That's so tragic to know that now she's 95 and it's not like she came out and wanted to say something like,
Starting point is 00:24:34 all right, now I'm going to air all this out. No, she was asked, you know, and she was just being honest and sharing her truth. And then now there's like people describing her and stuff like that. Yeah, we appreciate Dolores Huerta for her work period because a lot of what the movement is is also her. If you've ever said the phrase, si se puerto, that comes from Dolores Huerta. All right? So let's also not erase the things that she's done for that movement specifically. She wasn't this full assistant.
Starting point is 00:25:01 She wasn't this full secretary. She was for show not this girl's this full sidekick. She was right there within the movement. And you know what I will push back on like that. No one knew or all of these things because as we're finding, it happens a lot. Unfortunately, we're seeing it here. It happens all the time. It happens in different circles, whether it not be this magnitude where something happens
Starting point is 00:25:22 to a woman and other people cover for that said thing or she feels like she cannot come out and say something because there would be no right time to say something. That's what I'm seeing. That's unfortunate when I'm seeing backlash against her, which I don't even want to, like I didn't even want to mention. Yeah. Because I don't want it to be about. that, but it's like there would have been no right time for her to come out.
Starting point is 00:25:42 If she came out the next day, y'all would cover it. If she came out a year, why'd you come out a year? If she came out, like, if she waited this long, there's literally no right way or time. Guess what? If she did, sometimes people would cover. Hey, no, he's just like that. You're tripping. That first time when she mentions that she felt manipulated.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I guess what? If she were to say something, you wanted it. You didn't say no. Why didn't you leave? Why didn't you do that? Not understanding people go through fight, flight, and situations in that some people freeze. Some people fawn,
Starting point is 00:26:12 which means that you try to get on the good side of your abuser in order to not let that happen to the worst degree. All of these things are scientifically proven, right? So then we go at these victims and we say, why didn't you do this or how come you did this? And instead of saying, hey, that fool, why did you do this? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:31 You know, in these records and in the New York Times reporting, it says how it was covered up by a lot of other people that there was rumblings of the way that he was, and people knew that he would be this way to the younger women around. And it's like, then why turned away? Why are we asking those of those 60 people interviewed? I'm sure a lot of them were guys because there weren't that many women in this union, right? So I'm sure there's part of that is like, damn, I feel complicit.
Starting point is 00:26:59 I feel like I can't say anything because, hey, that's my boy. Because brocode, because we can't say, because I did stuff too. So why, like there's all these different dynamics. And it's just insane to feel that this 96-year-old woman is being labeled a certain way because she has felt inclined in her spirit. And she's probably about to pass away soon. Inclined in her spirit to help this from happening again. My heart goes out to young girls. And I hope that young men listening and just in the world are as protective as these young girls deserve.
Starting point is 00:27:33 No, it's not your job. No, it's not your right. but I do hope you see that women need that women need allies. Yeah. And so now that she's coming up to say those things, it's really important that we just shut up and listen. Yep. Listen to these things.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Unfortunately, he's not here to deal with the repercussions of what he's done, right? But it's not lost on me that he's had hell of babies. Like these kids are not the only ones that he has outside of his marriage. You know, those things are documented. You know, we've had his grandson in here. And his grandson had made sure, like, hey, yeah, as much as we talk about him, let's also talk about my grandma. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:16 The wife of Cesar Chavez, who was there for their kids while everything was happening. You know what I'm saying? And it's more than just maybe a promiscuous fool. It's more than that. It's more than, oh, yeah, you know, men will be men and like, oh, they're just cheating or whatever. Or it's just a side piece. No, these are against people's wills. And these are young girls.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Yeah. Because after this, like, there has been other women coming forward, Latte. And then there has been like... And guess what? They're going to be called cloud chasers. Yeah. No, but these... The ones that stood out are the ones that were underage at the time. There was like a 13-year-old.
Starting point is 00:28:47 And she's saying that, you know what? When that happened, he told me, don't tell anyone because they're going to be jealous. Oh, God. Yeah. What? Disgusting. So disgusting. Manipulative, everything.
Starting point is 00:28:58 And it's so frustrating, you know, as a Latino, we don't have too many people. to look up to, you know, and have like a national holiday, you know, named after him and so many streets, you know, everybody's, you know, been on Caesar Chavez, you know, Boulevard, whatever, all these things that are like, you just grow up, like in L.A. speaking for myself, it's like, oh, who's that? Why is this street named after him? Oh, he was a great man that did all these things to find out that he was a terrible person, you know, and he's a representative of our community. It makes me sick to my stomach because, like, damn, who do we even have left? I don't ever want to see Caesar Chavez nothing anymore.
Starting point is 00:29:34 And I know like right now you guys mentioned earlier Vic and Greg that some of his statues are being covered. I know even use them right now is saying like, you know what? Like this is his day is coming up March 31st. I know it's like do we celebrate it. And I know like the union itself is saying like you know what we're not going to celebrate anything like that. His family has said something. Yeah. His family really sustained.
Starting point is 00:29:57 They did. And then they pretty much said we. wish peace and healing to the survivors and command their courage to come forward. As the family steeped in values equity and justice, we honor the voices of those who feel unheard and who report abuse. Do you see that that is not going at Dolores? Do you see that not even the family is defending him, not even the union is defending him? So please, I just would like you to take that second thought before you're like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:30:27 whoa, they're just trying to bring this brown man down that you and you. understand that not even the people closest to him are denying that this happened. Instead, they are uplifting the people that are speaking out about it. So again, let's just take a step back and allow them their space because this is a moment for them. Because they've sat with this. There's countless women umpteenth thousand trillion women that stay quiet. And if this, the way we handle this, if we handle this right, it can help a young girl that goes through something, not stay quiet because an older man is telling her hey they're gonna get jealous don't say anything or no one's gonna believe you or hey you wanted this that helps out in that way shape or form let's be the allies
Starting point is 00:31:11 we preach so much that we supposedly are let's be that please yeah you're a scrub if you go against that I'm that's all I got to say I feel the same way bro and I don't want this yeah and you're going against that like how can't even process it in your mind dog you are a big scrub is like he's not here to defend himself we have a full right now that's the president. Yeah. That people have said the exact same thing. If Tafu was alive, we'd turn our heads the same way we did when he was alive and people
Starting point is 00:31:38 were saying these things about him within the circle. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. We will always find another reason why we're not going to do something about it in the present moment. Yeah. You know, do not let this happen this time. Do not let it be us.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Yeah. You know, and our love to Dolores Huerta, to the family of Cesar Chavez, to his kids. Yeah. To his grandchildren. They had hell of kids and hell of grandchildren. and to the two kids that unfortunately had to be raised that way that I'm sure have to deal with their own identity issues and things of that nature to everyone that's involved as somebody that is not in that circle but is giving you the respect that's due. You guys lead us. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:17 You let us know how you want us to handle this. Because in their thing, should things be changed? Should schools be renamed? All of that. I would love to see what their take is on this. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's a lot.
Starting point is 00:32:30 A lot of feeling. It is. Vic, you are totally valid in that, hey, this really does. This sucks for us. This is not a win. Believe me, I don't think she's going. Ha, ha. I'm so happy.
Starting point is 00:32:40 I got one over on Cesar, on Chavez. Like, I don't feel like, like, because we all lose. And that's exactly where she hadn't said something for so long. For 60 years, she kept it quiet. Not to, like, correlated at any way she performed. Yesterday I was at a rally because teachers definitely need to be paid more. And I was there supporting SEI. you local 99 which are service members in the schools that are the lunch ladies the
Starting point is 00:33:03 the crossing guards the janitors the people that fix the AC when it's messed up all those people that aren't like the teachers and the and the principals supporting them to get better wages and for LUSD to do the right thing and help these negotiations just go through smoothly right and I'm seeing that and I'm seeing how sensitive this situation is where they're in negotiations where let's say something bad that could have happened could taint and could make it so LA was these like, no, we're not going to give you what you want, right? And again, it's not the same thing,
Starting point is 00:33:34 but I'm seeing this big rally of people and then I'm thinking the farmers and the farmers union, farm workers, excuse me, of America and what they were looking for and the livable wages and the benefits and all of that that they fought for, should something like this have gotten out? Yeah. Whoever was the governing body that they were trying to negotiate with
Starting point is 00:33:53 could just be like, not, like, we're not taking you serious. Oh, yeah. Discrediting him. It could have done that. I promise you that. Seeing how sensitive these little things are. And Dolores knew that. Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:05 That's what she kept quiet. She said it herself in the statement. And I just think of my dude, like every time like Cesar Chavez got a recognition and like Dolores was just have to like. Yes. I've been at a thing like that. They always put them together. Coyadita. You know?
Starting point is 00:34:21 Yeah. And she was willing, not for nothing. She was willing to go to the grave with it. It wasn't until she saw that this was happening to a young girl. And she probably felt hell of guilt that maybe I could have saved them. Yeah. Yeah. That's that guilt right there.
Starting point is 00:34:32 And it's just, I want you to know as the victim, it's not your job to save someone else. It's the job of that, the, your abuser to have not been that way. Never. It's on them. It's not on you. Let's not take their wrongs as our sins. Yeah. At all.
Starting point is 00:34:46 He should have never done it in the first place. No one would have been there. All right. That was it for Chishmation. Brought to you guys by your Toyota dealers. I'm Angie from Brownback Mornings. I'm part 106. And I know that was a lot.
Starting point is 00:34:55 It was. We had to get through it. Not for nothing. We're called Brownback Mornings. We're a group for Latinos. We've all been in Chicano studies class and school period. We've all been able to, we've learned the story. And we cannot say and maybe judge other things of like, oh, you're rewriting history or this person was really like that.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Like we can't ish on those figures and not really hold the light in the mirror when it comes to one of ours. Highlights of Brown Bag.

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