Brown Bag Mornings - Ep. 569 Double or Nothing Daddy & Michael Jackson's Smooth Smell | Brown Bag Mornings (10/01/25)
Episode Date: October 1, 2025It’s officially spooky season, but nothing is scarier than Natalie’s love triangle between the Baby Daddy and the too-nice $500 Man who lets her "get away with everything"...; plus, we dive into Y...oung Thug's appearance as the Simp-Nominee after his breakup drama and unpack Lionel Richie’s alleged secret about why Michael Jackson was constantly wearing clothes that had a "smooth smell". [Edited by @iamdyre]See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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The more Brownback, the better. Come on.
Brownback morning's power 106.
Yeah.
Good morning.
Good morning.
I am Rosecrans Vic.
Hi, Victor.
Maximo is here.
What a?
Angie is here.
Hi.
Greg C. is here.
We have a great show for you guys today.
We have Knott's Scary Farm tickets, your chance to win.
Also, it's the first of the month.
First of the month.
October 1st.
And you know what else is scary in October?
What?
Them Dodgers.
How you feel about that, Greg?
I think they said paying bills, I was bad.
Oh, yeah, no, I'll get to that later.
That's scary, too.
How about them Dodgers?
Dodgers are looking good.
They're looking good.
They're playing one of the easiest teams in the MLB, but, yeah.
That's what I'm going to say.
I already woke up disappointing to my Padres.
I didn't even watch the game.
I don't watch the game because I was like, I'm already not going to buy a postseason hat
because they're disappointing me already, losing the first game.
I don't even think I'm going to watch today's game either.
Really?
Like that?
I already accepted it.
I already accepted it.
You're giving up on your team.
Yeah.
It's not their year.
We're playing the hardest teams in the league.
And then the Dodgers are like, let's give them the easy ones.
That's where the stories are made.
The stories are made.
Yes.
No.
Come on, make it even.
The Dodgers get all the easy teams to play and we get the hard ones.
They're not easy.
Easy.
They scored five runs.
And the last inning.
And we have the worst bullpen of all time.
And then how many runs you guys have?
Ten.
Yeah.
You saw Show Hay's two home runs?
No.
I turned off all baseball after the Padres game.
Oh, you're sick.
You're a hater.
Well.
To make money move.
I know it's hard to get some good news in the state of inflation and recession and depression and any other shuns?
Aggression.
Aggression.
Oh, yeah.
By the government's shutdown.
By the way.
By the way, our government's off.
Yeah.
I don't know what that means for us.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But here may be some good news.
Okay.
Make you want to spend a little extra bit of change.
just October.
I know money's been tight.
Wallets have been like very thin and you're like,
I don't really want to spend outside of the stuff that I need to.
By the way, it's the first.
Okay.
But over 11.5 million households here in California
are going to receive an automatic refund on their October
electricity bills, baby.
Nice.
Refunds are going to range from $359 to $259 on electric bills
with most households set to receive.
like between 56 bucks and 81 bucks in October.
Let's go.
Yeah.
I like that.
And maybe you may not have noticed, but a similar refund hit your bank account or like in the credit in your bill this spring.
Okay.
So shout out.
Yeah, I did notice that.
Yeah.
I got like a credit.
Yeah.
I don't remember how much it was, but I remember looking up the bill and I was like, wait.
What I do?
Hey.
What I do?
Is it because he's the microwave only once this week?
Maybe.
It's funny how we don't question.
Those.
We're like, oh, hmm.
Hmm.
Okay.
Credit.
All right.
Well, I'll just leave that alone and not bring it up to anybody.
I know people are struggling because they're not putting up Halloween decorations.
It's tough, bro.
They don't want that extra electricity bill.
They don't want to run it up.
I know.
I remember when I had the Christmas lights really early and then Vic was like, oh, that's February's problem.
Like, you don't have to worry about it right now.
But like, even the worry later's you're worrying about right now.
Even like the bill that won't hit until a couple months, you're like, I don't know if I want it.
But this is some good news.
So if you're part of, like, if you get a Southern California gas company, if that's your provider, boom, you're going to get that credit.
Other parts of California, I know people will listen to us all throughout San Diego Gas and Electric, Southwest Gas, and P-G-G-G-N-E, if you're residential customers of those service providers, then you will also get this credit.
So shout out us, man.
Wow.
Wait, what the hell is L-A-DWP.
That's what I pay.
That's the Department of Water and Power.
Yeah, that's so cool.
I think it should be part of it.
So, yeah.
Yeah, SoCal's gas.
Yeah, SoCal's gas.
Oh, my bad.
So LADWP is the electricity.
All right.
There's departments?
This is...
I'm a little bit confused.
I'm so sorry.
Yes.
It just doesn't come up.
This says your electricity bill.
Yeah.
Because right here, I'm reading.
California received automatic refund on their October electricity bills.
And it says residential customers of Southern California gas companies.
Yes, okay.
So Cal Gassie umbrella.
No, no, it's not.
But so LADWP not giving us no breaks.
It's basically only SoCal electricity.
Oh my gosh.
I don't know which one I have now.
You probably have SoCal Edison, whatever it is.
Yeah, I do.
Yeah, okay.
So you're good.
You're good.
No, only I'm screwed.
No, I'm LADWP too.
Why do you, now we're set back on.
Hold on.
How do I change?
You can't.
It's not up to you.
It's where you live.
You live in the city of L.A.
That's why, L.A.DWP.
What's going on?
Yeah.
Does water and power is the same as gas?
No.
No.
No, I pay the senana.
for the water bill.
And then SoCal gas for the gas.
But there's city and then there's, they,
someone's looking at us like, we're complete idiot.
No. Besides Greg, you don't even pay a bill.
I thought it just came with the house.
I don't know.
No.
So when I lived in my dad's house in Bellflower.
It's SoCal gas.
It's SoCal Edison, whatever, right?
SoCal gas, all that.
But Edison is electricity?
Yeah.
Edison is electricity.
So when I moved to Hollywood, the city of L.A.
Which one makes your water cold when you don't pay the air?
Which one does that?
Well, both.
Oh, no, well, the water.
Yeah.
But LADWP covers water, power, and trash.
I'm sorry.
I did not mean for this to make it sound so stupid.
Sorry.
I'm calling.
Listening right now.
I'm texting my mom and see what you have.
For sure, you have Edison.
If you have Southern California gas company, you can get that credit.
It's all part like a climate credit, which is like Shadow California, all of them.
Now I'm just confusion about what I am.
All right.
Whoa.
I'm back to a tour.
when I was 12.
What am I?
All right.
Happy October 1st.
It's Wednesday, October 1st, spooky vibes.
I wore, I wear orange.
I love it.
Also wore, like, my cool, the Nike's, the orange.
Oh, I get a hoarse.
I'm not like a shoe head, but, like, there's some that I know, like, this is pretty tight.
Yeah.
And these are the ones.
Yeah, they're orange and black.
You wear my, all the time, and I'm like, damn, those are hard.
Shout out, Greg.
Greg is here.
Angie's here.
It's your Shanklas, what's your Halloween slide?
Let me see your kick game, Maximum.
What's your kick game like today?
The classics.
The classics, all white air forces, very squeaky clean.
I mean, Victor.
I got my P-rods on.
Your P-rods.
You're wearing him.
All right.
Good morning.
Good morning.
April, I don't know how I'm going to do this.
I don't know how I'm going to explain to my kids' teachers.
That while they were at their dentist appointment,
which is the reason why they got brought out from school early yesterday,
they met a streamer, Aisho Speed.
I'm going to be like, how do I do this?
Because it's low-key viral.
I know.
I show speed.
Incredible streamer was out here in L.A.
He was streaming for 35 days straight.
And he stopped by Marathon Burger and Jorge knew.
Well, no, no, no, Jorge didn't know.
It was a coincidence.
Yeah, they were hungry.
That on their dentist's day
Where Jorge picked them up at 10 a.m.
Then he was like,
Hey, you guys want to go for some burgers?
Yeah, well, you're not allowed to eat after the dentist.
True, true, true, true.
And then Aishol Speed was there.
And then Luicito barked at him.
Yes, that was awesome.
Hey, Speed, can I tell you something?
That's awesome.
Yeah, my little guy.
And then it led into a conversation with I ShowSpeed and YG
about B dogs.
Oh, yeah, that was crazy.
Yeah, that was well.
YG's like I'm a dog too
So whooo and then
I show speed he's like
I never heard that dog
It's the whole thing
It's the whole thing
If you see it just and all my little kids
Where they're after a dentist appointment
Yes
Yes
Did you ever fake get your kids out of school
For a fake reason?
Not that I did but have you guys ever?
All the time
I will still do it
What Maximo?
Yeah just that we need to leave somewhere early
Emmy does a lot of soccer tournament
So we'll get them out
or they don't go to school.
But do you give the reason?
Honestly, for a long time, I didn't send a reason until, like, they said,
hey, you need to send a letter for this day, this day, this day, this day, this day,
or else you're an unexcused absence, bro?
I just always say personal.
Every time I'm pulling up, I'm like personal.
Smart.
Wow, don't know.
It's my privacy, okay?
There's a lot of teachers and principals listening right now, very upset that we do that.
One of our kids' teachers, because we had went to Mexico last year, the first week that school started.
because I was like the marathon in Mexico
and the teacher was like
you know it's like really important
that the kids show up to school
so they could learn everything
and like missing a day may not seem much
or missing a couple days may not seem much
but it really does affect their learning
and I felt so guilty
sounds like my girl
geez oh she's teacher
yeah get over it
stop because she understands like a kid missing a day
it takes them back a bit
and then they have to catch up
the rest of the people. It's not. Do you want to know
the real answer? It's because the school
loses money. Yeah. That's why.
They'll be just fine, Mrs. Johnson.
Yes. Jesus. Get over it.
Stop! Come on.
Don't let to make you feel bad.
They did, though. I was like, oh, Sam.
One day cannot affect you.
But one day I did miss sixth grade
when we're going over some very important math stuff.
Never recovered.
See?
To this day.
I was just behind the rest of this time.
Yeah, honestly, I really needed to come that day.
Yeah.
It was when they explained eggs, kids, and then it was stolen.
Once you don't learn how to make eggs.
What happened?
Well, I was gone, because I don't know what any of the stuff means.
You have failed out, Drew for good.
All right, shout out to all the teachers, principals, everybody else is the name.
That's like, how dare you?
Shout out you guys.
Missy, I'm so sorry.
Okay.
We're new giving a folder flowers for you.
Yes, we are.
Hispanic Heritage Month.
That's right.
And the food we have to give flowers to today is the icon, Carlos Santana.
My magic woman
Play by Carlos Santana
All right
By the way
He's not those singers
His voice actually sounds
Oh my mama-mobocita
His voice sounds like that
He's more of the
There was not one
Carlos Santana part
You heard the guitar
That's the guitar
That's the guitar
You know what
I never actually heard his voice
No he's on a lot of songs
Yes
I didn't get those
I didn't hear his voice
Until he won eight Grammys
In 2000 and accepted them
Oh really?
Yeah, that's okay, well, I'll get into it.
Okay. So what?
That's what you heard?
Yes, one of the best guitarists of all time, any genre.
He was actually born in Outlande Navarro, Halisco, in 1947, and raised in San Francisco.
His dad played violin in a mariachi band as well.
All right.
He had so many hits, Black Magic Woman, Oye Como V.
And in 1999, he released the album Supernatural that had smooth, Corazon Espinoido, and Maria, Maria.
All right.
Classic.
And, yeah, like, I never knew what his voice really sounded like until.
Until you were nine?
Yes.
Until I was watching the Grammys.
I really remember watching the Grammys because my dad is a big Santana fan.
And I remember Santana holding all these Grammys.
I think him and Lauren Hill like swept that year or something like.
Big ups.
Yeah.
And so yeah, that was in the year 2000.
He won eight of his 10 Grammys.
And his hit Smooth that I played the first song, spent 16 weeks at number one on the
Billboard charts.
It was the last number one hit of the 20th century and the first hit of the 2000s.
So that's a pretty big deal.
also in woods uh he played woodstock in 69
and he was tripping on acid with his whole band
oh wait so he's an actor too
no no oh i thought he played woodstock
oh i thought it was a movie or something
no no it's a festival yes and he said that
he was so high
legendary no honestly you're putting me up on santana
like call me on culture for it because the only one that I know is the
oh yeah that's it
so even when i heard like rihanna and then like
I'm like, I had never heard this.
Yeah. No, it's really dope.
And, you know, his band Santana went on to be one of the biggest Latino groups to dominate mainstream rock.
And so from being born in a Swampuilbo in Halisco to a San Francisco street kid and rock and roll Holland fame inductee, the Mexican icon Santana, proved that the guitar can be just as powerful as any voice.
And he made sure that's voice spokesperson English.
All right.
So let's clap it up for Carlos Santana.
Big of Carlos Santana.
I wonder if he's a Giants fan.
I don't want to think about it.
He probably is.
Yeah, he's here in San Francisco.
Yeah.
San Francisco?
Or do you think he's like a Raider or a 49ers fan?
I don't know.
I don't know if I could see San Antonio saying Raiders.
I can.
I want to get his voice now.
This is a fan base.
He definitely says Raiders.
My dad is the biggest Santana fan fan.
And also Raiders.
And also Raiders fans.
So it makes sense.
My mind and end.
The craziest story I've heard of Santana is that Woodstock one.
He said he was tripping so bad that he was doing his solo.
It's famous solo.
It's on YouTube.
The guitar turned into a snake, he said.
He didn't even know what to do in that moment.
He was just like, oh my God, I'm fighting the snake, but it was actually his guitar.
There you go.
That's funny.
There you go.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
I was just watching the video right now, too, I was showing Mona.
He was so crazy up there.
Yeah.
Shout to Carlos Santana.
We appreciate you.
And also shout out Woodstock.
It is the music festival.
I don't know.
Now I know.
Thank you.
I'm so, thank you.
I don't know.
I'm so thank you.
Thank you.
You know what, Ajie?
It's an old festival, though.
It's an old one.
Like before you were born and it was probably done.
Oh, okay.
It's the greatest festival.
It's all time.
Just changed the way.
No, but it was.
It's an older one.
It's an older one.
It's like some people,
some kids don't know who pay dues.
and some people kids aren't going to know rock the bells.
I know those things.
Yeah, me too, me too.
I'm so thinking.
You all follow that formula.
Yeah, there will never be another Woodstock ever.
Okay.
No.
I thought it was a movie.
People were naked.
Yeah.
At the festival.
What?
Very hippie vibes.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, so my times.
You know about Burning Man, right?
You know Burning Man?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Picture that, but like.
Okay, good, good, good, good.
It's okay, it's okay, actually.
Every day we learn.
Every day's an opportunity to learn something.
And I did.
Thank you.
Simp or Pimp.
We are here.
Simps, Simps, Sim, Sim!
Today we are starting October
with the new Simp nominee
and it is one we've seen a lot
this year.
Young Thug.
Young Thug.
Oh, young thug.
I know.
I told you earlier this week
like, go, stop doing interviews, dog.
He's not going to help you.
Oh, he did.
He went on a stream instead.
Instead.
Yeah.
Caillito,
more beautiful.
Yeah,
so Young Doug has been
going through it.
Obviously,
we've talked about it.
There was a leak call
where he was talking about
hooking up with girls
when he was in jail,
which led to him
breaking up or being broken up with
by his girl,
artist, Mariah,
the scientist.
However,
last night he went on stream
and he was confirming
or denying
his relationship status.
I got broke up with it.
I said,
I got a girl.
she probably don't have a boyfriend
but I got a girl
Huh
I got broken up with
Well I got a girl
But she probably don't have a boyfriend
But I got a girl
Poor God
Delulu
He hasn't accepted the fact
That she's broken up with him
And he's going online
And this is almost like
Asking for her forgiveness
In a sense
But I don't know if it's gonna happen
I get what he's doing
It's like a public
like outcry like you know I'm not moving on like you could move on that's fine but you know I'm still
being loyal to you but he was not loyal I know I know but this is classic manipulation tactics
yeah and that's what's scary and I feel really scared for her like not gonna lie like I don't know
it might be my PTSD but like from him being like how dare you go to therapy like if my girl go
to therapy I don't feel like a man like why are you talking to somebody else and hearing what
they got to say and not listening to what I got to say and it's like bro because you
You've, like, done something he's so wrong.
Right, yeah.
You put me through so much publicly behind the scenes.
And for a lot of time, like, we've got to work this out.
Like, with the help of somebody, right?
I don't know.
It's just scary.
It's control.
The moments are very scary, bro.
It reminds me, not gonna lie.
I know you guys are a big fan.
But, like, of Anuel.
When Anuel showed up to Carol G, her concert, you know?
Like, Anuel and her famous through together and thinks some cheating was going on,
breaks up with her, shows up at her concert.
and then kind of like starts to locate stalk her
as she's moved on with someone else
and it's like, oh yeah, she's still my girl,
this is the boyfriend,
and then goes to concerts with signs
and like award shows and stuff like that.
And at some point it's he-haha.
Right.
And at some point it's like, yo.
An obsession.
Yeah.
It's a line.
Like she can't move on.
Yeah.
You know?
It's mind games and they're mind games
hoping that in a way that it could come back
and turn it around.
And it ends up being,
obsession where they don't realize, okay, it's over, move on.
Now with Mariah the science, he came out in her show too, and it seemed like all the fans
are like, no, Mariah, don't think that.
We don't ship this.
We do not want this.
But then it seems like he's just, it could be persistence.
I would hope that instead of doing all these, like, interviews and things, like, you show
how you're changing.
Because I think the biggest thing is that Mariah may need to see you change.
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
Like, and because there's a lot of things that need changing, like the stuff that she heard.
and like all of that.
And I'm not her and I'm not you.
Right.
But like there has to be like some some action things that you're like,
look, I'm not doing this anymore.
Yeah.
And unfortunately, I think even for men like going to like therapy is like a hard pill to swallow.
It's tough for anyone.
And people that actually do it and you hear it, they're like, hey, it was a great thing for me.
But it's just like that first step of doing it.
And maybe that's the first step for him to actually her to see him changing.
To accept that you need some to change something.
Exactly.
You know, to say we don't need any therapy or change.
That's like to.
like not look at what's actually happened, you know?
Yeah, but is he really changing, though, because it's like,
the first thing he wants to do when he changes is go on Aiden Ross's stream.
That's like, I need so much help, Aiden Ross.
Please help me.
I'm going to go to your stream and vent.
And reveal things that shouldn't be revealed.
Exploitation of it, too, of the situation.
It's so much.
And I think Mariah really loves him.
No, for sure.
Like, you could tell, like, that was her man.
She held him down.
Yeah.
For real.
I feel bad for him, you know.
Even hearing the album.
You want him to get better.
Exactly.
Seeing like the pain that album had, it was like, whoa, something is really wrong.
And then he goes on the stream and obviously he's trying to show like he's somewhat happy.
But then doing this, you know, deep down inside, he's struggling.
I'm going back and forth between I feel bad for him and this is all being played.
You know what I'm saying?
I feel like it's like back and forth.
Yeah, like Pobrecyto because he's crying.
But also is this a way to manipulate.
What's that bro?
So Mariah is single?
I don't know.
Yeah.
Or you want to do with the thug situation.
Yeah.
Go for it.
And I'm sure there are guys that are down to deal with the thug situation, but this will also.
I mean, how much could he do?
A lot.
Need I remind you, I feel like I reminded you about this, Greg.
He literally tweeted, don't get shot trying to comfort my girl when we're going through things.
Wow.
That was Young Thug.
Oh, and they're going through things right now.
They're going through things.
Yeah, I don't think he could do it right now.
No, I don't think so either.
No, no, no, no.
But his whole case.
was that he ordered other people to do these things.
He's got friends.
Yeah.
So, well, there's not.
Oh, no, no, no, true.
Never mind.
Is it simple pimped that Thug is kind of going on stream
after a public breakup with Mariah the scientist
and then saying like, you know what, I got a girl, I'm taken.
Yeah.
But she don't have a man, but I got a girl.
I don't know.
Or is it too little too late?
Maybe you should have told the girls that were calling you in jail.
Hey, I got a girl.
I'm taking.
Like telling Nate and Ross, don't do nothing.
nothing for you.
Tell the strippers that.
Tell the strippers you got a girl.
I don't know.
It's sim to me.
Sit, sit, sit, sit, sip, sip, sip.
Everybody stay quiet.
Adjust her dog.
Wow, I have powers.
There was a fire alarm going, or some kind of alarm.
I don't know.
We may have to evacuate the building.
I told you, Thug has infiltrated as soon as you said it.
All right, check this out, homie.
You need a homie or need some help.
We need your head.
We need a line.
I mean phone line. We got you for.
The homie help line.
Natalie needs our help.
Natalie.
All right. Natalie hit us up and said, hey, Brown Bag, I really need your help.
I got to decide between two guys because my baby needs a daddy.
Aw.
Wow.
She said, I know it's messy.
Don't judge me, but okay, here it goes.
Around my birthday last year, I had a date with a great guy from Boston.
We vibe, danced all night, and it was perfect.
But I messed up, Brown,
bag. I let another guy take me out a few days later. He spent over $500 on dinner. We had a great
time too, but then it all went down the toilet. I ended up getting pregnant and I didn't know
who the baby daddy was at first. Oh my God, I thought it all to the streets. I know so bad. I got a
paternity test though and figured it out. But anyways, when I told Boston guy I was pregnant,
he said he was moving back home and was nowhere to be found during my entire pregnancy.
I reached out to him in April for closure and he told me he figured I had taken care of the baby
in a certain way, but he never reached out to confirm or check on me.
Turns out he never even left L.A. Wow. And on the other hand, $500 man who has never left my
side was there during the pregnancy and is still here now for me and my baby. We're not even
officially together, but he does anything I ask and need of him. And I just feel like, however,
I just feel like he lets me get away with anything and I don't really love that about him.
Recently, though, baby daddy has been trying to be a family and has met my family and now
they're wondering if we're together or what this is. So Brownback, I really need your help
deciding. Should I stay with $500 man? Or should I stay with $500 man? Or should
I give my baby daddy a chance so we can all be a family for our daughter.
Jeez.
So to clarify Boston guy is baby daddy.
Yeah.
She never really like clarified.
Yeah, she did.
Boston dad.
BD.
BD.
Boston is baby daddy.
He didn't want anything to do with him.
So does $500 guy know he's not the dad?
I'm pretty sure.
I don't think so.
I don't know.
That's a good question.
No, because she said she got a paternity test.
Yeah, she did.
by herself and she found out the results.
She didn't tell them, probably.
She yanked his hair?
Yeah, I want to know how she got the opportunity test too.
She yanked his hair.
He's sleeping.
I think I'm not too sure, but I think you're like with saliva.
I don't feel like everything's saliva.
23 and me is saliva.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Let's ask Natalie.
Natalie.
Natalie.
Hey.
Hey, Natalie.
Sound too excited.
Hey.
Happy Wednesday.
Happy Wednesday.
Happy Wednesday.
Happy Huff day.
Natalie.
Oh, my God.
Natalia.
Mm-hmm.
Natalie, how's your baby?
How's your baby?
She's going to be a year soon.
She's going to be a year soon.
Natalie, have a couple questions.
I'm ready.
Does $500 guy know
he's not the dad?
Yeah, he knows.
Okay.
He kind of, yeah, that was like
his assumption during my entire
pregnancy because he was there and he knew
that it wasn't his baby.
Like he just knew, based on
adult activities in the flow up, you know.
Wait, did you confirm, though?
Because you're telling me he assumed and he just knew, but did you confirm, hey, this isn't your
kid?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, okay, okay, okay, perfect, perfect.
All right, so he knows that he's willingly still with you.
But that also feels like a red flag to you because you're like, he just lets me get away
with everything.
Yeah, like he was there the entire time.
Like, he was there and like baby daddy was spazzing out on me.
Like, he was comforting me like he knew.
He sounds like a good guy.
Yeah.
Sounds too good.
He sounds too good.
Too good.
It goes on like that.
So he has a daughter as well.
And he kind of had a crazy situation with his baby mama.
So I think he was more understanding.
That things happen.
Yes.
So he totally gets it.
And then I guess at one point it was fine because Boston was out of the picture.
Like he thought you got rid of it and that was that.
But what do you do?
behind $500 guys back that you're letting Boston guy meet your family, which doesn't need to
happen?
Okay, so this is the thing.
So then Boston asked by being a little crazy and he's just like, threatening to take me
to court.
He's like, I need to meet your family.
I want to know, like, who they are because mine if you were casually dating.
It was never anything serious.
So, yeah, that happened.
And I was like, I don't want to, but then I also don't want to, like, have a whole crazy
legacy.
So I just did it
And my family knew too
Like this is not what I wanted to do
Like I've never brought anyone to meet my family
And I get it
It's different kind of
Because I have a daughter with him
But it was just
Yeah even now like that's when I'm like
I didn't want to do that
But I did it just to like avoid complex
And then here we are now
Yeah we're here
Here we are here for it all
Like there's no album
How do you find out that he's a new album?
How do you find out that?
never left.
How did you find out he never left?
You know, I know.
So I have some friends, obviously,
you just find here and there on his Instagram.
He's probably, so he saw everything.
Oh, you saw that he's, like, still out here, like, still places.
Oh, yeah, he's outside of here.
Girl.
Hey, how old are you?
And I have all his screenshots.
How old are you?
You're 27.
27.
All right, it's good to know.
Natalie, do you like Boston?
Do you have feelings for Boston?
Because I would kind of feel like, hey,
I'm with my man.
He holds me down.
Yeah, I have a baby daddy.
You've got to work that part out.
But like...
I know.
I really don't.
Like, honestly, especially after everything I went through,
uh-huh.
Pregnancy alone and all that.
Like, it's more a feeling of disgust.
But then it's also like,
okay, he's being a good father now.
Like, he's present now.
Yeah.
And that gives you the hots for him.
That gives you the hots for him because he's being a good dad.
I think she wants to be a family.
Like she's like,
might as well work it out instead of going to
court and all that hassle.
Like,
where she's thinking.
Yeah.
And so,
but $500 guys also there to,
like,
down to be the stepdad,
the guy that's stepped up.
He's there,
yeah.
She doesn't like him either.
He knows,
like,
everything.
You don't like either of them.
Yeah,
I feel like you don't like either of them.
I think,
like,
you're at,
like,
this is just a meeting,
but I feel like
maybe you haven't found your guy.
Like,
both of them are,
like,
could be great candidates,
but I think it's,
like,
I think it's you.
I think,
that's the problem.
I thought we weren't,
going to touch her. I really am the problem.
At least you acknowledge it.
She knows it.
Do they know each other, Boston guy and $500 guy?
They don't know each other, but $500 man knows of him.
Okay.
Because he was there.
Yeah, but he knows that's not the dad.
Oh, yeah.
Does Boston guy think you're single?
Okay, so that's everything.
Oh, my God.
He's asking me questions.
Uh-huh.
No, he's asked me things, like, if I'm dating all that I've told him, and, like, he gets livid.
He's like, isn't it too soon?
Why are you dating?
Like, he's getting upset.
Yeah, who are you like, dad?
Oh, yeah.
You were never together.
Like, what?
Yeah.
Not your property, sir.
You like that, though.
And he isn't dating somebody else, like, at all?
What happens?
He never dated somebody else at all?
I've asked him, he said no, and if there's anybody that, like, he wants to bring around, like, to meet our daughter eventually, then he would tell me.
So I'm like even for me like I'm just so nonchalant
Man like I don't care what he's doing
Notchalajon
Sure
Spell it's spelled notchalom naturally
But she was spying on him
He's notchalant Natalie
All right
But you seems like this
You like his little
Oh yeah
Why do you move on so quick
You like that
Yeah
I know
I know
You can tell by the way she's talking about him
Yeah
Well she likes someone that feels like
Like a little bit
Like not
strict but like hey like what are you doing
over there whereas the $500
man lets her get away with everything
look she's okay
and she's like that's a red flag
to her like she's like yeah
let me literally do anything like he's not
getting me any yeah I feel like those of them aren't up there
who aren't? I mean there's like
who's up there? Is there any other options
there was one but I kind of had to let that one go
oh because I was too nice
Three's a crowd?
No, he lives in the day.
So before I, like, had my baby, it was, like, a long-distance thing, but that kind of just, yeah, he knows everything as well.
And he's just like, yeah, I'm good.
And I get it.
It's messy.
Natalie, your daughter's won.
Does she have a relationship with $500 man?
Does she have a relationship with Busting guy?
No.
Neither?
She's never met $500 man?
No.
That's something I just, I'm not just going to let her.
meet anybody until I'm like he was with you when you had to get me but he was there for her
it's just it's just hard for me she knows his voice yeah true yeah he interrupted while
she was in there he was knocking at the door while she was in there hey oh that's crazy
but it's true like i don't even know what to think right now like Natalie I'm not understanding you
because she's like yeah i don't want him to it's not like
you just started dating this guy.
Like he literally been there since conception.
Yes.
Since conception.
He probably gave a really nice baby shower present too.
And he's down.
But maybe that's too like he's also down to not meet the kid or like I'll let you know.
I think she's trying to, that's what she's trying to decide like go this way or go that way.
Okay.
A $500 man is how old and what does he do for a living?
The $500 man.
He is 29.
And he directs like,
music videos.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Do we know him?
Yeah, I was like, I'm going to say,
yeah.
Okay.
That's all I'm going to say
because he might.
And Boston guy?
How old is he?
What does he do?
He's 34,
and he works in,
oh, sorry I'm doing,
um,
and finance.
Works in finance.
So he is older than me.
Yeah.
All right.
So one without a career and one
with the career.
Actually.
It's like the
I don't want my home boyfriend.
$500 band is the director.
Oh, that's the money.
I guess.
That's on a project basis.
You know how many music videos are not being made anymore with no budget?
Yeah.
Girl.
Short form content.
Okay.
How did you meet them?
Did you meet them on set or?
On set?
No, so I met $500 men at an event that I went to with a friend.
Okay.
I've known him longer.
and then the other one it was mutual too
what do you do for work
so it's both mutual friends
me yeah
social work
wow
thank you for your service
thank you for your service
thank you so much appreciate
serving the community
very serviceable
yeah she does service so much more
no it's fine that's perfect
you're good
okay
all right
she's told us everything
Natalie have we missed anything
do you want to tell us about your relationship
what is your family think
does your family like
Boston guy, all that stuff.
So they're more, like, they're unsure because they know, like, everything I went through.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So they just, they want to protect me as much as they can, just make sure I'm good,
and I'm okay with being, but I'm just unsure.
Of course, my sister knows, so they know everything.
Yeah.
My parents are kind of just, yeah, I don't want to stress my parents up.
Oh, yeah.
Have you met his parents?
Yes, the last one other thing.
His mom, so they live out of state, so his mom will like FaceTime me, things like that, constantly texting me and it was like a bit much at some point.
Like checking on you, making sure your belly's okay, making sure the kid is okay.
Like, sorry my son wanted you to get rid of the kid.
I'm here though, all of that.
Oh, yeah.
after, like, she's a sweet lady, but I'm also like, okay, we're not together.
Like, just this feeling like, it feels like an arranged marriage right now.
You arranged it.
You arranged it.
Nobody arranged it but you.
You're the one that wanted them to rearrange your inside.
All right.
Natalie, you got to go.
I know you got to go to work and be a great social worker, morality, all of that.
Natalie, we're going to.
Oh, my God, let me merge.
Okay, I'm in.
She's so cute.
Look at her smile.
Look at her smile.
She knows it.
She knows she's in a mess.
And that's why she hit us up.
Wait.
I got one of my things.
I got one more thing today.
All right.
Those two aren't it.
DJ Greg.
I d.
M.
A month ago.
Why was she responded?
Greg hates kids.
Hold on.
Mom.
Hold on.
Hold on, girl.
Natalie, shut up right now.
Natalie, I'm trying to sing.
Natalie.
I want to time up.
You rearranged my insights right now, my brain.
What?
Natalie.
You DMs with Greg?
No, I DM too, but he didn't open it.
Open it.
Open it.
Open it.
Why did you do it?
Hold on.
Why did you DM Greg?
Oh, it's just for fun because I heard him say something about like he wants to be like,
yeah, that.
I know what he said.
Something crazy.
See?
Wow.
Something crazy.
And she's like, let me go.
She's like, let me go be the crazy.
Like a moth to a flame.
Like a mosquito or old blood type.
She's like, z-z-z.
What did you DM him?
I might be for the community.
I'm not going to say that.
Aye, girly.
No, it's not bad.
It's not bad.
Okay, say it.
I'm toxic and I'm ready to yell at you.
Oh.
Nelly.
Oh.
Do it, Greg.
I'm down.
Okay.
Okay, Natalie.
Question, question, question.
From the three, including Greg.
Boston man, $500 man, and Greg.
And Greg is like the music video guy.
Like, what does he even do for living?
He's 29 and he DJ.
Girl.
There's a guy in finance.
Do you know how awesome it is to be in finance?
And she's thinking.
But he abandoned me for pregnancy.
Natalie.
Natalie, would you move into Greg's mom's house?
What happened?
Would you move into Greg's mom's house?
Oh my God.
That's crazy.
Yeah, yeah.
See?
She never said no.
All right.
Oh, my grandmother's like, though.
Go to work.
Go to work.
Go to work.
Go to work.
Your baby needs it.
Oh, God.
Who is she more attracted to?
Oh, yeah.
Who's more fine, according to you, Natalie?
Boston, man.
Boston, man.
That's why she's still like, oh, my.
It makes you sick?
It makes you sick?
Yeah.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
Like, you're so hot.
I hate it.
I hate you're so hot.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
We're the cockies.
Oh, yeah.
$500 man is ugly?
He's not, but I say Boston Man is like, that was the wood.
Have a good day where we're going to take calls.
818.
52059.
Fellas, if you have a girl keeper, bro.
Yes.
Keep your girl if you have a girl right now.
The times are taking you're exactly, maximal.
Are your girls right now?
Tell them you appreciate them.
Send them flowers.
If you got one, love one, keep one.
Okay?
All right.
Let's go to Alex in San Diego.
Alex,
Alex.
What's up?
Good morning, Bramberg.
What's up, Alex?
How is the weather over there in SD?
Pretty shiny, but let's not talk about the podders, though.
I didn't bring it up.
I have to be the weather.
Talk to us.
What would you tell Natalie?
To be honest, she doesn't deserve both of them, bro.
So she's just playing with them.
What about she gets with, say, Boston guy,
and then she breaks the heart, the $500 guy.
And then Boston relationship doesn't work out,
and then she's going to want to go back with the $500 guy,
but the $500 guy, y'allah.
Yeah, I feel like she doesn't deserve both of them.
She's just playing with them.
She's just playing with their feelings.
And then she's over there trying to get at Greg, too.
So it's like, I don't know, man.
What's wrong with that?
Why does that seem like a bad thing?
It's not.
She's just a...
Like, it's not for a...
It's not for a rato, yeah.
Oh.
It seems as though.
But it also seems like they want her for more than in a rato.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know?
They do, but she doesn't even know who to pick.
I know.
That's why she's all this.
We're trying to help her.
I'm trying to help her, Alex.
That's the point.
That's the point.
We got to pick one for her.
She's only for a while, crocodile.
She has bestowed the honor upon us to pick who she goes.
She wants to pick between.
She's in a fork and road.
Oh, hand me my cockies.
Oh, my God, I thought you were going to say something now.
They say my daughter.
Why did you keep saying?
That's Boston.
Boston accent.
Sam and Boehites.
I want to go to you.
Please watch your mouth because I'm looking at your call notes.
We have our homegirl Natalie.
She hit us up.
She's 27 years old.
She has a one-year-old baby girl.
While she was pregnant with the baby girl, she was like,
I don't know who the dad is because she had slept with a couple guys.
And she did a paternity test.
And it turned out to be one of those two guys.
And that guy just kind of didn't abandon her while she was pregnant, she said.
He wasn't a part of that process, right?
The baby is now one-year-old.
And Boston wants to be a part of the life and says, look, I'm either a part of this kid's life
or I take you to court or we work something now.
I got to meet your family.
We got to figure this out, right?
She also said his mom was also hitting her up, like FaceTiming, seeing how the baby
was all of that. So it seems like yeah, at one point he wanted nothing to do with it, but then it's
like, I don't know, you kind of, you come to those moments, I'm assuming, especially like,
dads can only speak on that where it's like, it could be scary. So maybe your reaction might not
be the best, but then at some point, like, you lift your pants up and you know what you did
and your responsibility and all of that, you know what I'm saying? Yep. But it seems, she does, she still
remembers how he acted like, like, you know, when she, when she was left abandoned. This other
homie is there for her and was there for her throughout the whole thing hasn't met the kid the kid is
one year old again uh but is down to step in and be and be a committed person to her she feels that he's
really like too nice way too nice so she's like look is it the guy that's too nice but has been
supportive to me the whole time and also spent $500 on her first date or my baby's daddy who was not
there is trying to like kind of be a family now but i've i've got like this
I don't know, like I just have this resentment towards him.
Yeah.
Sam, Sam and Boy Heights, what would you tell Natalie?
Hey, what up?
I think the way she's, so she's giving daddy issue vibes,
and the way she's going about this whole scenario is she's setting up the baby
to also have daddy issue vibes when she's older.
So I think the best case for the baby,
because look, the entire time she talked about this whole situation,
she's joking around like, oh, I have, well,
one is sent in a bay and she's in a pickle and she doesn't know what pickle she wants.
That's the dilemma.
Yeah, that's why she hit us up.
Yeah.
He ain't concerned about the baby.
She's pretending, oh, the baby, the father, not.
She don't give a damn about the baby.
So she needs to just put the baby up for adoption, preferably with a family.
What?
What?
Sam.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Yeah.
Look, a family member, you know, if not, then at least a loving,
caring family that's going to raise and nurture that baby as that baby should
deserves to be because give because the way she's going about it she's going to do the opposite
having having all these oh should I have you know you know like it's a joke the way
she's talking about is sliding into Greg like she needs to she needs to slide into
Greg's DMs again and get everybody on a conference call so that they can all meet up at the
same time and she can really do what she wants with everybody because that's what she wants
She can be half step.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
Sam, wildness.
I was with you until you tried to be.
Also, the adoption thing is crazy.
If anything, she's being very nice by trying to give her baby two dads.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
The more the merrier.
And potentially agree.
There's definitely some maturity issues, and there's definitely some messiness and some, some toxicity.
Toxicity.
That she's owned up to.
That doesn't mean, like, she's for sure she should fix that.
But she's trying to get her right.
Yeah.
Aren't we all, bro?
Yeah.
She's not a finished product.
Yeah.
And I don't know, she hasn't met, let either of them meet the kid.
True.
I don't know if that's a plus.
Because you guys don't let someone meet your kid too soon, you know what I'm saying?
Like $500 man has not met the child.
The kid's only one.
It's not going to remember.
That's true.
Yeah.
Oh, but you know, connections really, really happen really early.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, that's true.
Like, there's pictures of him holding her.
Yeah.
Like, you know, like there's.
AI.
That was an AI picture.
Hilarious.
That was the deal that just was here in and out.
AI put me in her life since the beginning of time.
For sure, I'm with you on like, like it's a her thing.
I told her herself.
It's a you thing baby girl.
But I'm not down to freaking have the guys bust a train on her either.
Oh, chill.
That's wild.
Sam has a wild imagination.
Unless she wanted it, but no.
No.
I doubt it.
Conference call.
All right.
Let's go to Eve and Watts.
Eve.
Talk to me, Eve.
Natalie hit us up, and she's between two guys.
She has a one-year-old.
At one point, she didn't know whether either of these guys was the dad of her kid.
Did a paternity test, and it turns out to be this guy that will call Boston guy.
And he did, Loki was just kind of off-put, ghosted her essentially during her pregnancy.
And then later when they talked was like, oh, yeah, I thought you handled that.
Since you didn't, or since you did handle it, another way, he decided to keep the baby all.
I'll see if I can be in this kid's life.
I need to meet your family.
My mom's got to be in touch with you.
And if you don't like this, we're going to go to court.
And also, why are you moving on?
Because she told him that she has a boyfriend who's $500 man.
And he seems to be cool being there for her, being a shoulder for her to crying on through all the drama and has not met this kid.
But it's down to kind of step in if needed.
So she's kind of like, I don't know, do I give it a chance with baby daddy?
or do I get with Boston guy?
I mean, that's baby daddy.
Or do I get with a $500 man?
Eve, what would you tell her, baby girl?
Good morning.
Hi.
Good morning, Eve.
First of all, I'm like, I don't know her, but I love her.
Be careful before Sam in Ohio says you should join the conference call.
What would you tell her?
I would say, honestly, I would say honestly, I would.
I mean, the first one, the baby daddy didn't want the baby to begin with,
so why are you going to want something with him now?
And then the second one, $500 guy, he's been there with you since the beginning.
And I feel like it sounds mean, but he's the reason why good guys turned bad.
Yeah.
And she misses it for all of us.
Yeah.
He's missing up for all of us.
I would feel like if this guy's been there for you, stay there.
Like, I mean, he's being a good guy.
He's willing to support you with a kid that's not even his.
and he's been there since day one.
And then this other guy, he barely came back in your picture.
Where was he your whole pregnancy?
Like, it's things that you should take in consideration.
But that's just, that's just me.
He didn't know that she was having the kid, that's why.
No.
He knew she was pregnant and then, and then they stopped talking.
But it seems like, yeah, it seems like during the pregnancy,
the mom was even checking in because she's like, yeah,
the mom would FaceTime me see how everything's going, but like he wouldn't.
Okay.
And then now he is.
Yeah, he took him a while.
So why could she try?
Yeah, it took.
took him a while.
And granted, you know, he's young, he's 34.
Yeah.
He's just a baby.
Yeah, he takes you guys a while.
And you guys could have been a little scared.
He was 33 at the time.
Yeah.
What was he going to do?
32 when she got pregnant.
He's just a guy.
You know, just a chill guy.
Even though he was ghost, I'm sure he was keeping track of the situation.
I don't know.
Nah.
I don't know.
I think sometimes, I know some people's like, oh.
Out of sight, out of mind.
Yeah, exactly that.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
Ask all the kids around the,
world that they never see their dad again.
I'm sure he's keeping track of me.
He's out there somewhere.
He's thinking of me.
They got lost at the liquor store.
He'll come back with the groceries.
Yeah, one day.
Anyway, she wants to figure out who to go with.
I guess it's going with the $500 man, maybe the best bet as someone that genuinely cares
about you, whereas the other one seems like he's forced to care about you because you
guys were a hookup and then like it seems like, okay, now you have made my baby, maybe
Let me just go.
She said it feels, what is it called?
Force.
No, no.
Arranged.
Arranged.
But what I will say in my opinion, I feel like Natalie respects baby daddy and doesn't respect
$500 man.
That's a lot.
No, that's a big, big deal.
Well, it's because that's her kid with him, that's why.
No, but she just respects them as a man.
Like, as a man.
He's a little bit like demanding.
Yeah.
The other one's like, yeah.
Even, bro, he came out the bloom was like, I need a, what's up?
You got a baby?
I need to meet your parents.
She did it.
And she did it.
She listened to him.
Yeah, and she's like, okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
You know what?
If he tell, hey, get out of Greg's DMs.
She's going to do it.
Yeah.
The other one is letting her DM you.
It's fine, babe.
You know, if you want to do that,
that's a $500 man she doesn't respect them.
See how much she charges for an hour.
For the baby shower.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
All right, let's go to.
I don't know what I'll say this name.
It could be Eline.
Elaine.
I don't know.
It's just.
spelled weird.
There's no A in there.
Oh.
Hey, what's your name?
It's Elaine.
Elaine.
Is spelled Elaine without an A in it?
It's E-L-A-N-E.
Oh, yeah.
All right, Elaine.
Talk to us.
What would you tell Natalie?
So I would go with the $500 guy,
but I don't think she deserves any of the,
them.
The reason why I say I'm in my 30s now, but I was in a kind of similar situation like
her when I was in my very early 20s.
I had, you know, two kids with my husband already, but then me and him split up because
he cheated whatever.
He moved away.
And I started dating this guy from my ex-company where I used to work at.
And he knew I had kids already.
He took me in.
I really never let him with the kids.
However, he was always like trying to pay for my babysitting.
you know he wouldn't even ask me like to pay for my run or pay anything for my
without even meeting just by being a nice guy.
Wow.
Maybe into a year of dating him, my baby daddy started finding out, oh, you know, she's happy,
she's moved on.
Now I do want to be a part of the kids, da, da, da, whatever.
I let myself kind of being a sled.
He came back from where he was staying in another state.
I left a good guy and went back with my father, my child, which only lasted about like three
months. I ended up pregnant. Then the person I was dating previously with him again,
then the person that I was being previously, he, I guess, in a way, didn't really take me back
because we didn't start dating, but he accepted me back as a friend. So he was there for me,
you know, the whole pregnancy, the whole time my husband, you know, left me. She done me.
Again, like I said, he was helping me pay for babysitting things like that, that because I was a
single mom, he just took on as being nice guy. He never expected anything.
for me and I know that she said
she doesn't like the fact that he lets her do
whatever she wants
I understand that we want
you know men to be men but there are
toxic men and then they're men of household
and I say this because I didn't stay with this guy
however he also never told me
what I think he would mean by that toxic men and men of household
I don't think she's so there's like
men who are who
come off as like wanting to be
men the head of household and providers, but in reality, they're just toxic and they're
narcissists and they just want to keep you like on a leash, right?
But then there's men who provide men of households who, you know, they, whether you want to
be a stay-home mom or you want to go to work, they're okay with that.
Whether you want to wear makeup or not, they're okay with that.
Whether you want your nose or not, they're okay with that.
Whether you want to go out with your girls and have brunch, they're okay with that, right?
They're not asking you, who are you going with?
Why are you not?
They're those type of medical.
I know she's afraid.
I know she's afraid of that, but the $500 men seems like the good guy.
You know, he just wants to be like a provider and not come off as someone who, you know,
because he knows about her ex, right?
Yeah.
She knows her ex is a piece of, you know, whatever.
So I'm sure he doesn't want her to experience that same thing again.
Therefore, I don't think she deserves any of them.
We get it.
We get it.
We get it.
Oh, my God.
We get it.
She went through it.
And she sees it.
She's talking through experience.
He wants to be ahead of household.
It's not just taxes.
Get pregnant by him again, is what she's saying.
No.
No.
Take him back.
Get pregnant again.
She's saying she did it and she went with the baby daddy and messed it up and it didn't work.
And then it's like the other guy just really wanted to hold her down.
Let me hold you down like that.
All of that.
She wanted to do that.
Cassandra in Long Beach, Cassandra, in as little time as possible, can you tell us what you would
tell Natalie. Natalie's hit us up. She's between two guys. She has a one year old right now.
At one point, she was messing around with both guys. She got pregnant. She didn't know who the dad
was. Find out it's Boston guy. The Boston guy didn't want anything to do with the baby. So she
felt very abandoned when she was pregnant. But the other guy who wasn't the dad decided to step up
and just be there for her, still wants to be there for her. But now that she's had the baby,
the baby's one year old, Boston guy's coming back in the picture like, oh, I really thought,
like, I thought you got rid of it since you didn't. I want to be in the child's life.
and we need to get our families together and we need to figure this out.
So now she's like, but man, like, I still feel resentment towards him,
but also, like, $500 man lets me get away with everything and he's not as cute.
So I'm just in between.
I don't know what to do.
Cassandra, what would you tell Natalie?
I would tell her to try to work it out with her baby daddy.
She's obviously still attracted to him.
She just should get pregnant again and just letting me create that with her.
What?
Cassandra, bye.
Jesus.
Run it back.
Run it back.
The first one didn't go so great.
Run it back.
Cassandra, are you saying have a baby and you're hearing, you're hearing the same story we're telling, right?
You're hearing what's happening?
Okay.
Maybe not have talked it to him.
So she should just get back with him and try to make it work for her kids.
She had the baby.
Now she's got to be responsible.
Try it.
Try it.
Try it out.
It doesn't work out and it wasn't meant to be.
But an each pie for the kid.
What if she becomes happy with him?
Yeah, yeah.
If she really loves him, you know what I mean?
If it's not meant to be, it's not going to be it.
It'll come to the life.
Yeah, and if it's not going to be, now it's not going to be with two kids.
Yeah.
Why not three?
Yeah.
Why not?
No.
But knock it out and have one baby daddy and then go out.
Oh, gosh.
I get it because she wrote her notes like this way.
At least I get where you're coming from.
I know that's mean.
Yeah, I know that's mean.
It's okay.
So don't get pregnant about.
I get where Cassandra's coming from.
I'm reading her notes.
Uh-huh.
Because she's saying, like, you have resentment because he wasn't there during your first pregnancy.
Have another baby so that he can be present in that pregnancy so that he can show you.
Restart.
Don't fix everything all the time.
That's the truth.
Sounds like a trap.
Why is she letting him?
Greg, I'm sure for months.
You never repeat to me.
Anyway.
Oh, my God.
Cassandra.
Cassandra, hold on.
Hold on.
They're fighting for me.
I like it.
Let's go, Greg
What?
And by the way, Greg,
check your dang DMs.
I don't know what's going on right now.
Okay, Cassandra's being funny, funny, ha-huh.
Yeah, she's saying like, hey, if you have resentment
because he wasn't there for the first kid,
maybe give him another kid so that he could be there
and then boom, your resentment goes away.
The ultimate test. Here's another one.
See what you do with it.
See what you do it now.
See if you go back home or you stay.
Terrible.
Terrible.
Don't do that.
I want, and thank you so much.
Thank you so much for calling in and giving Natalie your advice, you know.
I can only look at it like if you have both these guys and they're great options,
yet you're still DMing Greg.
You're not ready.
You have to be single.
Yes, yes.
Because Loki, she went behind one of their or both of their backs to be DMing you.
And I don't think you're the only person maybe she's going back and forward.
She said she talked to somebody else in the bay.
So it seems like they've all just kind of been options.
And how long can $500 man be an option?
It's probably been two years.
Yeah, like two years?
I could ruin both of those dudes' lives right now if I really wanted to.
How?
I could just make them crash out.
No, you can.
On her Instagram.
Oh, yes, I can.
I can.
Okay, yeah, Greg.
Yeah, yeah.
See, this is what you guys do when you talk to Greg.
When you talk to Greg, what you guys do.
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
I would try being single, Mamasita.
You deserve that for you.
You're just 27, you know?
That's true.
You deserve that for you.
Give yourself one year.
One year and see what happens.
One year without dating.
Bregnessy.
Without dating.
Without.
Hooking up with two different dudes within like a week.
Yeah, just one year doing mommy daughter things.
Okay.
When you're being a mom.
And it'll let you know what your household needs, what you need, all of that.
That's a good option.
Just want you.
Give yourself that.
I'm a mommy.
Mama Cita.
All right.
scrolling with all me.
All right, if you've been on social media,
you've seen these cool little AI photos.
Yes.
Maybe girls or dudes,
along with the screen character.
Yeah.
A lot of girlies are starting to use it.
Yeah, I saw some dudes with it too.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
If you use it, it's kind of weird.
Why?
I don't know.
I think it's a girl thing,
because I think the theme of it's mostly just girls.
Well, like 90s themed.
Kind of fantasizing and stuff like that.
Girls fantasizing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what they're doing with it.
It's weird.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's not weird.
Do you think?
I'm going to let you cook.
Yes, it's a new AI trend where they're using ghost face.
Sometimes they're using even Jason to be beside people's house standing right behind them.
But the prompt that you need to use, first of all, you need to use Gemini.
You're not using chat.
Oh, that's Google.
That's the Google.
Google has AI too and everyone has it already.
If you're new to AI, just new stuff that you can ask this AI thing, hey, do my face like this.
Make me a Simpsons character.
Yeah.
Make me look like a cartoon.
We saw it a lot with the trend that just happened or the Polaroid picture of people putting celebrities next to them.
Yeah, we're using Gemini for that.
Mine was real.
And do we have an example of what we're talking about where it's cute little girl, Elise?
Yes.
And guys, because I saw a dude one.
That looked like they're in a 90s horror film, but it's like cutesy.
Yeah, we have a sample right now and Brought Manorne's one on a single.
On Instagram of Angie sitting there with a ghost face, just chilling.
Me? What am I doing?
You're just chilling.
Talking about Santana.
Talking about Santana.
Oh, is that where you made me look team pregnant?
What?
Jose sent it.
And I was like, I look super teen pregnant.
And probably in that year I was.
I didn't see you at all.
The year scream camera?
No.
My little, my little three-month-old belly right here.
Cute.
Yeah.
Post it.
Post it.
Oh, my God.
I look so mad here.
You probably are mad.
Ghost faces doing your nails right there.
But what's the problem?
Like, if you want to do it too, here's the hack.
So there's different types of hacks.
you can do.
So this one is the main one that everybody's doing.
It's kind of Y2K style.
So the 2000s early with pink everywhere,
the prompt that you want to use,
it's going to say,
type into the Gemini,
create a photo of me
in a dreamy white 2K style portrait
of me lying on a shiny pink satembedding
with brown cheetah print pillow cases to match
as a whole.
Oh yeah, that's too much.
I'm going to tell you right now.
That's a long.
I'll tell you right now that's too much for people
to like peep on the radio.
So you've got to probably post it.
On our page, Roundback 40106.
We'll send you the whole prop and everything.
Yeah, it's way too long.
Sick.
Oh, gosh.
So it ends up being really cool after you type in all those like 10,000.
Yeah, you look.
That's sick.
But the biggest thing, you have to make sure to tell the Gemini is do not change your face.
Okay.
Because if you do not put that on the, well, they're going to get the prompt from there.
Yeah, but that is one of the biggest, biggest, biggest things.
Because if you don't, it'll change your face.
You'll look like crazy.
If not you're going to look all crazy.
You'll look crazy.
Your beard will me all like a goatee?
Your beard?
Well, if you have a beard.
You did that?
So you did it?
No, not this trend.
Just in general.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, just in general.
If you want to use this.
Okay, perfect.
Thank you so much, Greg.
Thank you for that.
All right, let's get into these tickets to go to Not Scary Farm.
If you want to go to Not Scary Farm, we got a family four pack of tickets or a friend
four pack or a friend of me four pack, I don't know, or a scaredy cat four pack of
tickets for you to go to Not Scary Farm and enjoy the terror.
All right.
But you got to choose a fighter, all right?
You got to choose someone from the crew that you want to play for you, okay?
You can choose between Vic.
Rose Cranz, Vic.
Maximo.
Angelica.
Angie.
Or Greg.
DJ Greg C.
Hey.
Leave me alone, Craig.
I didn't like that.
I didn't do that.
All right.
We have Stephanie and Riverside on the line.
What's up, Steph?
Hi, good morning.
Hi, Steph.
We have these not scary farm tickets.
Who are you choosing to play for you?
Victor
Victor
Oh
Scrans Vic
All right Vic
Vick
Super easy peasy
Lemmon squeasy pops
I'm gonna put
a timer
up 10 second
10 second timer up
and in 10 seconds
I need you to name me
set
I don't even know where's that
I need you to name me
seven
couples
costumes
seven couples
costumes go
Plug and socket
Fred Flintstone
Wilma Flintstone
Pamela Anderson
Tommy Lee
Benefer
How many was that?
That's four
I've never seen you
Joe's like Benefer
Yeah it happened
It's a couple's costume
Yeah
It's also a divorcee costume
I was about to say that
Maybe you worry when you're about to
When it's over
When it's the last one you get up
That was good though
That was good though
You tried
You tried to do it
Yeah it was tough on
I like that you did the Pamela Anderson
Because he was that last year
Nice girl.
All right, Jose.
Jose and Ben Nice.
What's up, Jose?
What's you doing over there?
Hey, good morning.
Hey, good morning.
Good morning.
Jose.
Jose.
Yes.
Who are you choosing in the crew to play for you, brother?
I choose Greg.
I choose Greg.
Let's do it.
All right.
Greg C.
Yep.
All right.
In 10 seconds, you saw the timer.
Yep.
In 10 seconds, I need you to name me seven Halloween-style.
candies go.
Oh my god.
Candy corn.
Halloween style?
I don't know.
What does that even mean?
Oh, you're good.
Halloween.
Maybe little pumpkins.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
What are they called, though?
I don't know little pumpkins.
Yeah.
See?
You only got one.
But that makes those set.
I can say like, because you give out recess,
you get back, Kikats, but that's not Halloween style.
They do pumpkin.
Yeah, they do.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I did not come up with these categories.
Oh, ghost?
It was not me.
But ghost, there's ghost chocolate.
Yeah.
Now you're getting, now you're finding them.
See.
What are they called?
Almost, almost.
That's his style.
Maria and Granada Hills.
What's up, Maria?
Maria.
Maria.
Hi, good morning.
Hi, Maria.
Who do you choose?
Angie.
Oh, I get lucky sometimes.
Can you guys choose the category of Angie?
Seven what?
Oh, seven.
scary movies.
Yeah, let's say horror movies.
Seven scary movies.
10 seconds.
Angie, go.
Chuckie one,
Chucky two,
scream one,
scream two.
Jason,
um,
La Girona.
I'm not even counting those two.
Why?
Jason isn't the movie.
You guys have done that in the past.
Okay, I'm not talking about that one.
Jason isn't a movie.
It's Friday the 13th.
Yeah.
Yeah, but same thing.
Yeah.
Oh, you almost got there.
Yeah.
You almost got there.
You know what, Angie, I would have accepted the chequee one, checky two, because these ones have got Jaws 1, Jaws 2, Jaws 3.
That's my guys have done that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right.
You're right.
So it's not your bad.
It's not your bad.
All right.
Let's go to Anna in Tustin.
Anna.
Hi, good morning, Bramberg.
Hi, Anna.
Anna.
Anna, who are you choosing to play for you, Mamasita?
I'm picking Maximo.
Maximo.
Maximo.
All right.
Maximo.
All right, Maximo.
In 10 seconds, I need you to name me seven.
popular and you will see these on Halloween
Animal costumes go
Cat, panther, leopard, lion
elephant, giraffe, bunny, dog
Wait, I don't know
Listed animals, yeah
Under like leopard and lion
I don't know
You could have said bunny
He did say bunny, also elephant
I've never seen any
Yeah, I saw it
You know somebody with elephant trunk?
You've never seen someone like a cheetah and a panther?
No, yes, I see that.
But I mean, an elephant.
What's the panther costume like?
It's the black panther.
Wakana forever.
How's the elephant look?
Yeah, how does the elephant look?
It has a trunk.
I don't know, but it looks.
Anna, I'm going to give you these.
Let's go.
Anna.
Congratulations.
That's right.
Go, Anna.
Never in the valley.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
You're going to go enjoy Natska.
You're fine.
Yeah, you're going to enjoy it.
That's right.
Do you deserve?
I don't know, but I'm going to give it to you.
I don't want to argue this morning.
And you know how they say, like, respect the dead, like the little...
Yeah.
Don't talk about them.
No, now Michael Jackson, one of his close homies.
Ooh, just, like, told, like, this really creepy, stinky secret about Michael.
Yeah.
The King of Pop.
Yeah.
El Fucci.
What?
That's true.
I haven't done the rumor yet.
I was teasing it.
Oh, my bad.
All right.
Well, what's up with you over there?
All right.
Well, have you guys been at...
We've all been at the Sulfai Stadium, right?
Like, you've seen, like, when we go there, like, you see, like, some falcons going around, like, flying off, right?
Shout out Sopi Stadium.
I didn't know that they had falcons.
Yeah, apparently that's a thing.
But no longer, because somebody actually stole them.
They're actually...
There's a bird napper on the run right now, guys.
Birdnapper.
Yeah.
So, apparently, like, those birds are always flown out, right?
Right before the game, just so other birds don't...
come in in the field or land or something like that.
But apparently on Sunday during the Rams game, somebody stole the UTV and where the falcons
were inside and stole them.
Like now people cannot find them.
Wow.
The owner is looking for them.
But now they have a, they actually found the UTV, but the falcons are still nowhere
to be found.
So if I had this guy that they would hire.
Okay.
And before the games, he would sit in the parking lot with this van.
And he had about two or three falcons.
And he would let them out.
so no pigeons would go around the stadium at all.
Oh, that's their purpose.
And no pigeons could go inside the stadium.
Because it's an open stadium.
So they wanted it to be very like, nothing comes in the way of so much.
Yeah.
So even during the game, like you'll sit there, you'll see a dude at the corners where it's open at,
just standing there.
You're like, what the heck is that guy doing?
I am not aware of my surroundings because I've never seen the Falcons or the guy with the van.
So the falcon will never go inside the stadium.
They train it to stay outside.
Yeah, like loop around.
And just circling.
And that's all he does.
But now they're missing.
Now they're missing.
And the owner has actually said something.
Their name, the hawk's names or the falcons names,
their name is Alice and Bubba.
And the owner does have a theory about it.
It looks like somebody took it and used it to transport themselves
to the area of Century and Avalon.
And I think they became aware of the birds somewhere along the way
and they released them.
Oh, they just want to.
They just stole the van.
Yeah, but that's again, that's what they're thinking because they found the UTV.
but again the falcons there's nowhere to be found.
Because imagine you're just driving and then you turn back like,
ah!
But at that point like wouldn't you just let it be?
Alice and Bubba! Sorry!
No.
Falcons and Hawks not the same thing.
Scary though, so.
No.
Oh, okay.
Similar.
Yeah, very similar, but no, they're not.
But the crazy part is like you would think they have trackers,
like the birds have trackers, but no, there's no trackers.
They belong to like this one person.
Yeah, they were probably trained very well,
so it's like they would always fly back to their owner, I'm sure.
Most likely that's going to happen.
They're going to fly somewhere where they know.
So far?
Can fly to soapy?
Well, they're insanely smart animals.
Yeah.
Yeah, 100%.
Unless something else happened to them.
Sadly, hopefully.
Yeah, hopefully not.
And I get it.
Falcons and Hawks are not the same thing.
No.
In case you're looking for a hawk.
I hawk too.
Vic is here.
Maybe.
Vick is here.
Maybe you can help me.
Clay Thompson may be in need of a Haktua or two.
What's going on?
Yes, you guys.
It was Media Day at Clay Thompson.
They asked them about Meg,
and his answer has people wondering about their relationship.
Like if they broke up.
This summer for you, and more importantly,
how is your relationship made you better as a man on and off the floor?
My relationship with, like, Megan the selling.
I'm not going to talk about that,
but I will say that every summer
doesn't change for me.
Liar.
They're done.
This summer was changed for him.
They're done.
They're done.
Because he's talked about her very happily.
Yes.
In the beginning, they'd be posting each other, taking fishing trips, things like that.
And all, like, the interviews.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
This is not like they're fighting right now.
This is they're done.
Because even if they were fighting, like, oh, I don't want to talk about it.
You still have that.
I still appreciate her.
I still together, right?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, it's done.
Wow.
Oh, recito.
No more of the spaghetti and catfish.
No more spaghetti and catfish.
This is his favorite meal, y'all would say.
I never knew what my favorite meal was to make you.
Remember how excited he sounded?
Yum.
He's delicious.
But even the face he made when they were asking him was like,
because he's right.
He's her.
He really loves her.
I know.
That's the same face that Michael B. Jordan made after he broke up with Lori Harvey.
And he was sitting courtside
And he was hurting?
Oh yeah. Oh, poor Clay.
He doesn't have a monster season.
Oh, he is.
Yeah, for sure.
Well, I mean, like, he hasn't said anything
and Meg hasn't said anything.
They haven't deleted any pictures on social media, so maybe...
That's saying a lot what that was, while not saying anything.
Because he's really, like, especially with interviews.
I get if people are private and it's like, hey, ask me about the game.
But he's been interviewed and like, yeah, like, I love her.
Like, she's this, she's that.
Like, talking about her mother.
who's passed away and like all of that, like really, like he would light up talking about her.
It's like, hey, I don't want to, we don't talk about that.
We don't get into that.
And he's not even like looking at the reporter that asked the question.
Yeah, no, no.
No, so I'm a yorra.
Oh, yeah.
Kere yorra.
Yeah.
I know the face.
I see her right across from me.
Every time we bring up a cafe.
This feels like, uh, uh, I want to keep it private.
All right.
Let's talk about that right now.
Let's talk about Michael Jackson.
Lionel Richie, man.
Him and Michael Jackson were homie homies.
Yeah.
But now Lionel Richie's telling a little secret about Michael Jackson.
That he stung.
Why is he saying that?
I don't know what he's snitching on the dead homey.
Like, it's just some things you don't tell.
Yeah, keep it to yourself.
Let that stank rest.
Lionel says that MJ was constantly on the road
and he couldn't simply hire a dry cleaner because, you know, like, oh,
and he did out of fear.
He was smelly out of fear.
He couldn't just hire a dry cleaner because often they would
steal his clothes as a souvenir.
Like, this is Michael Jackson's.
I'm going to keep it in my living room.
You know?
And so he wouldn't hire a dry cleaner,
so he would just keep wearing the same clothes.
And they stunk.
Damn.
He could have bought new stuff.
He also couldn't just drop by a department store.
Back then, it was not like you can postmate something.
You could have for new clothes due to his level of fame.
You know, that's so true.
There's like a famous clip that he hired.
actors to go into a grocery store and pretend to shop while he was shopping because his life was
so abnormal that if he were to go into a grocery store, he'd be flocked.
So he hired people to just not pay attention to him at a grocery store so he could feel a little
bit normal.
Normal.
I mean, that is sad.
That's insane.
That is sad.
Michael Jackson, I'm so sorry you didn't make the 2025.
You would have loved DoorDash and Instacart.
Oh, for sure.
Drive up.
For sure.
You know what drive up is.
Bro, yeah, he got into the habit of wearing the same pants
Until they were unwearable
What does that even mean?
Oh, man
He says whenever Michael would come visit me
He was wearing whatever jeans and a t-shirt
And the jeans were either falling off him
Or too short to even be jeans
And well, smelly
Smooth criminal my eye
He says like B-O smell
But I think if you were to do that now
If he was still alive, it would be a fashion statement
No like saying.
Yeah, yeah, like like,
all like the pants falling off.
You could smell it for you.
You see him.
Oh.
Okay.
He adds,
he helped his pal out one time when he noticed he was smelling particularly unkempt and snucked him home so he could shower for the first time in days.
He also gave him a clean pair of underwear and jeans.
That's so nasty, letty.
That's all.
Like, I get it.
You're hiring people to feel normal, but you can also hire an assistant to go shopping for you.
Like, that's not an excuse.
Okay.
I don't know what to make.
And also, you know what I think, too, like, not for nothing.
Like, clearly, you are who you are.
But also, like, I kind of look at how he was born with, like, he had a lot of brother and sisters.
They maybe had to share all the clothes and, like, and, like, not really waste money, going to the laundry.
Like, it's kind of like some things just stick to you.
Just some things just stay with you.
And maybe because he had so many brothers and sisters, maybe they weren't allowed to buy.
And it was a tough childhood, I hear.
And he thought that was normal, probably.
Yeah.
So just not.
He probably just wanted to smell like human nature.
probably but then it's like those were really hits that he had yeah like but i'm gonna just tell you
right now if that's the case michael jackson you are not the diana was not the dirty one
it was not her we need to say sorry to that yeah you need a because you called her dirty you were
out here not wearing smelling the same pants even though they didn't fit you while he smelled
man he really needed billy's jeans
That's good
I like that one
I like that one together
All right
But a lot of stuff is going down
It's the first of October
Yes
We love us in October
Here on Brownback Mornings
It's the first
Day of official scary season
And because of that
Our guy Greg C
Has brought back
His Halloween mashups
Oh
Yeah
It's got to do it every single year
And this year
I wanted to do a little switch up
You know
Okay okay
Okay
So he's gonna mash up
Some songs
with like scary songs like spooky.
Yes, yes.
So I'm gonna do that all the month of October.
But this one, you were like, let the, you tested me on this one.
I know.
I'm like, dude, can you do it?
Can you do it?
You gave me this song from K-pop, Demon Hunters, Golden.
Okay.
With that alone, we're number one in Los Angeles.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Way up.
And I was like, dude, how am I going to mix this, man?
This is hard.
This is the hottest song right now in the world, in the U.S.
It's off a Netflix show.
anime K-pop demon hunters.
The group is called The Huntrix.
And this song is it.
It's called Golden.
But it is like a more pop-y record.
It's a pop record.
But I want to throw some funky beats behind it.
I'll let this one right here.
Somebody's watching me.
You guys know that Halloween classic, right?
Listen to this mashup.
That's hard.
Greg.
That's my little guy.
DJ Greg.
That's why.
Now that I know why the girls are in your DMs.
You want you to mash them up.
Like you've been making up these songs.
Hey, y'all.
I'm going to bring more of those Halloween mashups.
Oh, I love it.
I love it.
Let's go.
I'm so happy.
Can you mix it with a hip-hop song so we can play golden on the radio?
Gotcha.
And get those twinsies.
Let's get to number one.
Let's go.
Let's go.
That's really tight.
I love it.
Run it back.
Run it back.
We're going.
Hey.
Golden and somebody's watching me.
I appreciate that.
Greg C.
I'm all turned to.
Yep.
October first.
And there's some.
drama.
Yeah, some scary news.
This is really scary.
Why?
Yeah.
And we've been talking about being in like dark places.
Like looking at nothing before we go a little bit further.
There's like stuff going down.
You know, Cardi B mentioned it.
Like it feels like dark energy, all of that.
And then like you log on on Twitter.
Her and Nikki Minaj are going at it so hard.
Like we can't even feel right reporting on the things that they're going back and forth talking about each other.
It's kind of that dark.
And like we're just in this weird.
I don't know if it's because it's October.
But then, I don't know, Shug Nye's like, oh, I see what y'all doing over there.
That's my type of party.
Let me add to this.
Yes.
So Shug Knight actually says that Snoop Dog was in on the infamous Las Vegas Tupac shooting.
No.
You guys.
A.k.a. Tupac's death.
Yes.
So as we know, Tupac was shot in September 1996 and died seven days later.
And there's a guy named Keefee D who was charged in the rapper's murder is actually technically still
on trial, the trial will resume again in February
26. But according to Shug Knight, this guy, Keefe De
once told him that Snoop Dog was in on the hit
as if he knew about it beforehand. Listen to this.
When Keefe D told me that Snoopy was involved
with the downfall. I never believed it
until I heard it from his own mouth.
So yeah, he said that he was in on the downfall of Tupac.
Oh, gosh. What? That's what he's saying that, you know,
the guy that's being charged with this, you know,
With Tupac's murder said Snoop knew about it.
And so Kifi D is charged, right?
But there's other people involved.
And I guess publicly known that the person that apparently did
of the shooting itself, street justice, not here anymore.
So see his day is in court.
But Kifi D had some involvement in the fact that he may have accepted payment
or had done some of the contracting for this quote-unquote hit.
And was in the car.
And was in the car, was just a, what is it called?
A accomplice.
No, accomplice.
And we know so much about his involvement because he would go on Vlad TV and he would
talk about his involvement with this.
Like, kind of like, they're never going to get me this thing past.
I'm not the one that did the actual shooting.
I guess I was there and I know everything and I saw the brokerage and I did all this.
But he kind of snitched on himself.
Okay.
And because of that, like after I'm assuming years and years of detective work,
they found enough reason to now charge him with the the murder yes and that's happening in
Las Vegas exactly yeah but now him Shug is locked up too did they meet inside
Shug is locked up no this said that this happened at the Staples Center in the bathroom
apparently they're talking or whatever and then all of a sudden he's like yo you know your boy
Snoopy has something to do with the two oh gosh and then he was like wait what what is that even
yeah you know and so you know he goes on to there and then now you know Shug Nite is repeating
that story and you know yeah he's podcasting and stuff like that and saying actually yeah you know
kifie d the guy who's being charged for murder saying that snoop had something to do with it too
but i feel like there's a whole bunch of stories of everybody's a lot there's a lot yeah
puff behind it shook himself behind it like there there's so many stories always like a new theory
kind of popping up yeah i guess the working theory the one that i guess has been the most consistent
all reportedly allegedly yeah uh and and i'm going from my memory off of this
not like having read it in an article is that is that there was an issue between puff and shug
and then puff when he's out here he has certain security that deal with people that may not
mess with shug and pog anyway and he had made outward dimensions like if anyone can get rid of him
i got you with a milly like i like or whatever the whatever it was basically putting the bounty on one
of their heads and so these were homies kivy and his homies were like ah he's just
joking, he's joking, but when they saw the opportunity that they were in Vegas, we're like,
hey, Puff, what's up?
Like, we're handling it.
So where's our bread?
And so, like, then it became a thing where reportedly allegedly they were trying to, like,
shake down Puff for the, for the hit on Pock, which I think was supposed to be sugar.
I don't know.
It gets layered and confusing.
And then Puff was like, I don't know.
I don't know what you guys.
I'm out of this.
Yeah.
Because once he saw it, like, happened in real life.
But it's like, you should know better than to say, like,
I would give anyone that does this, this amount of money in a room full of fools that do that.
Exactly.
And I guess it's just, it's a lot of involvement.
A lot of he said, she said, I don't know, I may have seen a documentary or something.
No, yeah.
That's accurate.
Yeah.
And it's like at that point if like Puff knows, Puff is a smart dude.
It's like, okay, well, if I give you this payment, now I'm involved.
Like on paper.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's like, I just have to like, I don't know.
That wasn't me.
And reportedly I do.
There was a check for half.
It was for security.
Yeah.
Like in a,
I don't know,
it's like,
it sounds scary.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
But what does that have to do?
It's no.
I know.
That's what he's,
but it's,
it's hard because it's like,
it's like Kee-Feedy,
you know,
being charged for it,
being there,
being at the scene of the crime and everything.
It's like,
if he can say damn near anything,
you kind of have to believe him.
No, you don't have to show,
he would have to show corroborate.
Yeah.
Yeah, like, it's like,
it's like, okay,
like, you know,
I stole your pen,
right?
And then it's like, you know, but you know who else was in on it.
And it's like, but I'm, you know, I'm being honest about stealing your pen.
Yeah.
So is he being honest about involving someone or whether they're really in the room or not?
Yeah, you'd have to corroborate.
You'd have to corroborate that type of thing.
Exactly.
It just gets so tough.
You know, Snoop did say that him and Puck weren't in the best terms.
Terms.
Yeah.
When all this happened with Puff, I think I even remember a story, bro, I'm going back into my, like, YouTube rabbit holes and like my ditch party.
All the, all the Tupac.
Documentation.
Please, please don't take my word for credibility at all.
But he was saying, like, you know, then I went to go see him
and at least we got to patch things up like, well,
because he was in the hospital for seven days.
And it seemed like they weren't on the best terms.
But would Snoop want that for his home?
I don't think so.
No, that's far.
I can't think that's true.
And then also you're getting like combos from someone like Shug that is locked up
that has animosity towards Snoop.
They have outward animosity like Snoop just had an album.
Where he was going at Shug.
You know, they both, they both, I don't know how true you could tell their commentary when they're met, they're out to get each other.
Yeah.
And you can even tell in the clip, he calls him Snoopy.
That's not showing them like respect.
Like it's like that's Snoop, that's Snoop dog.
Like you call him Snoopy.
It's like you kind of like are belittling him a little bit, little homing him type, you know.
So that's crazy.
As if that wasn't crazy enough though, this is a random story that he also threw in.
He said they were actually late.
The whole reason that the shooting even had.
happens because they were late because they were supposed to pick up run DMC.
What?
Parking myself was going to go pick up run DMC.
That night, my club was East Coast night.
So I'm like, what do you mean you're late because you're going to pick up run DMC?
That means they were supposed to be in the backseat of that car?
That's crazy. I don't know.
I don't know if I could believe it.
Yeah, you're adding more to it now.
Too many stories, too many theories.
I don't know.
He could say anything he wants.
He has nothing to lose.
Yeah, but also he should ignite.
He has nothing to lose.
No, but like, he should night.
Yeah.
So, yeah, that's the latest developments from Shigmate.
Has Snoop Dog said anything?
No.
Not since this.
No.
No.
No.
No.
Snoop's very vocal. I remember that guy.
He's mad that I own death row now.
He's mad at all this and that.
And that, like, I was able to get away because even Snoop Dogg's story of getting away from death row that didn't happen, especially at that time.
Shout out of Master P.
Master P bought him out of his contract.
And again, going on YouTube rival.
And Master P bought him out of his contract with Death Row.
Because after Park died, like, it's just Snoop there.
kids, if the rumors are true about like Shook kind of kept everybody in line, he could
have went with Snoop too, like, you owe me this, you want me this, you want me your life,
and you owe me your kid's life and everything. But Master P apparently did some things
paid Shook out and was able to free Snoop from that. And then we have the Snoop dog that we have
today. So they have their back and forth. Yeah. It's a real thing. They've always been vocal
about not messing with each other. Yeah. I don't know. Real lives were lost and these are very,
These are not just figures.
These are like legit like men.
Yeah.
100%.
All right.
Well, thanks for that big.
No, I'm scared.
Now I feel like we shouldn't have said any of the words that we have said for the past five minutes.
Okay.
Keep it here.
