Bulwark Takes - BREAKING: Trump Orders Lake Ontario Renamed to "Lake America"

Episode Date: August 27, 2026

Sam Stein and Andrew Egger went live to cover Trump order to rename Lake Ontario to "Lake America." They give their takes on the absurdity of it, the cost, and why Trump’s latest map-making stunt is a perfect snapshot of a president who seems increasingly out of ideas and out of touch. Plus, they dig into Trump’s bizarre claims about the Strait of Hormuz, the U.S. missile shortages caused by the Iran war, and why the administration is suddenly asking Russia for favors.Visit https://upwork.com right now and post your job for free.Good Fight Tour tickets: https://www.thebulwark.com/events

Hey, everybody. It's me, Sam Stein, managing out of the book. I'm joined by Andrew Edgar, and I want to apologize to everyone who's tuning in a pre-warning. This is the stupidest, stupidest bulwark take that we will ever do. I hope. Actually, it probably can get worse. The stupidest bulwark take so far. So far. We're joining you live because Donald Trump has just issued an executive order actually renaming Lake Ontario, Lake America. It doesn't get dumber than this, folks. It's not just that it's done. It's unoriginal. He did this for the Gulf of Mexico already. He's doing this right now because he's frustrated with Canada because they're not taking his trade war lightly. There you see the map that the White House put out Lake America right there.

Now, Andrew, I have a lot of thoughts on this. Before we get into this, I'm going to ask people who are watching that in exchange for us sorting through this nonsense, them become a Bullwark subscriber. Subscribe to our feed on YouTube. Maybe go to Substack, hit the button. It makes us feel good for having to do this stuff. Now, Andrew, as a lover of lakes, the floor is yours. Yeah, I'm like our Great Lakes correspondent around here these days.

Are you coming up? Yeah, I don't know. Tim and I did a whole riff on the podcast. I love the Great Lakes. The first thing we should say about this is you said Trump is renaming Lake Ontario to Lake America In a certain sense, that's true, right? In another sense, it's not. I mean, like the president of the United States can do a lot of things. It is very unfortunate that this guy is sitting here and is able to snap his fingers and make stupid things happen. But it is only true in a narrow sense that he can rename this lake. He can command the federal government to refer to Lake Ontario as Lake America, you know, much the same way that he could command them to refer to the Gulf of Mexico as the Gulf of America or refer to the Kennedy Center as the Trump Kennedy Center, all these sorts of things. In practice, it will be a lot messier. Other countries are not going to follow our lead on this.

Various private firms may not follow. You know, the president's lead on this. There has been not a lot of uptick, actually, in calling the Gulf of Mexico, the Gulf of America. People have sort of slipped back into the old way of doing things. There will be certain tech oligarchs who might find it useful to curry the president's favor by, for instance, renaming the map in Google Maps. That remains true.

The Gulf of Mexico is, if you pull open Google Maps, it'll be the Gulf of America, things like that, but we should not overstate the president's ability to snap his fingers and change reality here. Yeah, but it's also not nothing, right? Oh, yeah. I mean, like, I remember driving through the keys shortly after the Gulf of Mexico change happened and pulling up my Google map being like, holy shit, it actually does read Gulf of America. And with respect to what he can do, yeah.

So you force the federal government to adopt all new language on its maps. in its literature. I'll give you a sense of the things that do change here because we went through this whole rigamarole when the Gulf of Mexico got changed by Trump. So things that have to change because the government's decreeing them different, that will incur costs potentially. Government documents and maps. I mean, we're talking like every government map.

Like it's got to be taken down and put back up all the technology, all the websites. I just did like a sort of rudimentary perusal through government website pages. Like there was one, I think it was either on, I think it was the federal weather service or was NOAA. There was like dozens and dozens of pages where the Lake of Ontario's listed big maps of it. They're going to have to change all of them. Maybe we can get the, let's get the one from the forest and wildlife services up there. It just has Lake of Ontario. So that's one.

Educational materials. So you got update textbooks, atlases, digital resources, cartography and mapping services. Look at that. That's a current government website. We're showing you. Lake Ontario, right there.

It's got changed. Okay. So we have signage, public infrastructure. So anything in and around Lake Ontario, you got to get rid of those signs. Anything that's a federal government building, got to get rid of the signs. And then if the private sector costs,

tourism, shipping, fishing, they don't have to adopt it, but it could, they might have to adopt it. So, like, and then there's the litigation that's going to come with this. So it's costly. It's not nothing. Yeah, no, 100%. And just to lean in on, like, again, what triggered this and how flighty and ridiculous it is.

I mean, we've talked about this in the past, but we're now in a trade war with Canada that we weren't before. Kind of came out of nowhere over the weekend. No, why are we in this trade war? Why? I don't understand this. Well, it's been. Remind me. I mean, yeah, the president has been, uh, Canada has been.

has basically been one of the foremost countries in not just sort of telling Trump anything he wants to hear on trade in order to get him to move along to bully some other country that's not them when it comes to these trade wars. And this dates back to the very earliest months of this administration when Trump declared economic war first and foremost on Mexico and Canada, supposedly over fentanyl smuggling over the border. Mexico basically said, oh, you're absolutely right, Mr. President, sir, we're going to get a handle on that right away. Don't you worry about it. Canada said, we don't, there is no fentanyl smuggling over the U.S. Canada border. We don't really understand why you are turning this into a giant crisis.

And Trump didn't like that he was stood up to. And that got the ball rolling on this trade war. He's, he's been madder and matter at Canada. And ever since it's been snowballing, they thought that there was going to be a reprieve. They thought that they were going to sign a deal last week. They didn't. Canada's, you know, now pretty anti-Trump, pretty anti-American bullying government basically said, we're not going to let you push us around. The Premier of Ontario got on the radio and said,

Trump can kiss my ass. Trump doesn't like that. So he looks at a map. He's like, the Premier of Ontario said that, huh? Well, Ontario doesn't get a lake anymore. Never mind that Ontario, the province, is actually named after Ontario, the lake. But yes, this is the sort of thing. This is the sort of thing that drives these sorts of map making decisions in our very cool and normal day and age. Well, we haven't actually played the video of Trump, as far as I can recall. We've been on this for like 10 minutes, not even six minutes. We haven't played with Trump. Let's watch Trump sitting in the Oval Office.

And again, I want you to focus on the fact that he says the purpose of this, that we called this meeting for this purpose. Let's watch our president. And finally, I guess the purpose of this more than anything else is we're going to be changing the name of Lake Ontario, effective immediately to Lake America. That's going to take place. Right now as I signed the order, do you have anything to say about it, Ben? Yes, sir.

So this is a straightforward but important executive order. It direct Secretary Bergam and the Department of the Interior to update the geographic names information service to reflect that Lake, once known as Lake Ontario, will, from the state forward, be known as Lake America. I can't get over this. Like Doug Bergam standing there, stoic. This guy was like not so long ago. the governor of a state, a respected business leader, and now he's tasked with the, you know,

changing the names of lakes and fixing the reflecting pool. It's such a sad fall from grace. Yeah, no, I mean, it's, it really is something. And I mean, just the, the silliness of, keep coming back to it, but reaching for this specific thing. Like, like, there's stuff we're doing in this trade war that's really going to hurt Canada.

Well, how do you think it went? How do you think it went down in the Oval when they, they went to get to this? Just, like, paint us a picture. I don't know, man. Like, like, Trump loves, Trump loves to rename shit. He loved, there, there are so few things in this world that he can actually just sort of snap his fingers and, like, sort of speak these things into existence. It's a source of endless frustration to him, how, you know, how many things don't work that way. And I think it's like, it's just such a release

for him when it's like, oh, yeah, you know, I know what we can do. We can bully them on the map. I'm honestly surprised we have not seen this more often. I'm surprised that there haven't been more public calls for Trump to just announce that the straight of whore moose is called the straight of America now and like that's our big win in the Iran war. But but yeah, I mean, I, they have so much fun with it with the AI stuff, you know, the AI maps they put out and things like this. But again, yeah, there's definitely an aid in there in the Oval as they're doing some brainstorm. Probably Trump was not there. He's probably back at the residence. Like, you know, what would the boss really like here? Like, let's channel the boss. And then they're like, you know,

the Gulf of Mexico thing really got him jazz. Why don't we just do that with Lake Ontario? And then it's probably like, you know, it's not named after the province in Canada. It's named after this Huron phrase about, you know, Great Lake. It just means it's a big lake, yeah. Yeah, don't worry about that. He thinks it's Ontario. And so then they presented to him, he's like, I love it. I love it.

By the way, in our conference, he mentioned Strait of Hormuz. Someone suggested that Canada should respond to this by renaming it, the Lake of Hormuz, just to fuck with Trump. I think Debbie Dingell said they should name it like Natalie so that he would stop bothering with him, leave it alone. Anyways, so we went through the costs. I want to go through the politics and the political population, or I should say lack thereof. A couple things here. So after the Gulf of Mexico, when he changed it to the Gulf of America, the House of Representatives passed a bill to codify it because basically Trump can order it.

And I believe it's the U.S. Board of Geographic Names is in charge of administering it. But the House wanted to codify it back in the heydays of Trump. And it was a 2000. I think it was going good for him. Yeah. Well, I thought so let's pause for a second there because do you remember that early reaction whenever was like, this is awesome. This is so sick.

And they're like, we're really winning. And the Gulf is now, Gulf of America. Yeah. Like flags everywhere. People like you can celebrate things. Remember you can just do things, man. This is awesome. And I don't really see that reaction right now.

Anyways, back then, it was one Marjorie Taylor Green. This is how far we've gone. Roger Taylor Green in January of 2025, who introduced legislation to codify the Gulf of America. It passed, but it was only 211 to 206. And I bet they thought at the time that this was like a real fun wedge to like throw Democrats. How could you be against anything renaming in America? But you pulled up this data.

which I thought was amazing from the Marquette University. But why don't you talk about that? Yeah. So this is a poll that Marquette University did in February 2025, where they were basically just polling straight up and down, do you support or oppose several of these really early executive orders that Trump did? His first flurry of executive orders back in office, some of them are really popular. You know, it's like we're cool with you cracking down on illegal immigration and getting

the border under control in these various ways. There were two that were quite unpopular. One was his act to pardon every rioter on January 6th. Obviously, that's not really a surprise that people were overall sort of unhappy about that one. But even more unpopular than that was Trump's decision to rename the Gulf of Mexico, the Gulf of America. You can see that on that graph. I mean, it's really small on my screen. Hopefully it's bigger on some of your screen.

I can see it. That's the very bottom thing on that graph. It's like not even, it's sort of a yawning chasm between that. It's like 5 or 10% more even than the J6 riot. or pardons where people are like, well, you know, that one feels weird. I kind of have a theory about that, but I can maybe save it. But, but, but, uh, well, no, let me just read, let me read the numbers and then you give me the theory. So if for those who are listening and not watching, according to this poll, again, this is during

the heyday, like the high watermark for Trump. This is early February 2025. It was 29% favor renaming the Gulf of Mexico, 71% oppose. And then as for pardoning J6 defendants, it was 34% favor, so 5% higher. and 65% oppose. So, yeah, what was your theory? Well, I just think, I mean, it's interesting because the other unpopular one on there

is take back the Panama Canal, right? And I think that this was unpopular at the time, and I think this new one on the lake will be unpopular for sort of the same reason, which is that everybody kind of knows that President Trump is crazy, right? I mean, he has a base of support, a really core group of people who like that about him,

and they think that's, like, great, and that's what we need in a president. There's a much broader group of people who are sort of uncomfortable with it, but a lot of people have these sorts of nice beliefs that they sort of wall that off with, right? Like, oh, you know, he might be a bit of a lunatic, but like there's all these people who surround him. And, you know, they keep that from bleeding over into public policy too much. And when the president, when there are these moments, when he just gets some crazy idea in his head and snaps his fingers and says, this is the way it is now, and people can see the entire apparatus of the United States government

just sort of lurch into gear to implement it, to put it into reality in real like real meat space existence in America. That kind of brings people up short where they're like, whoa, okay, what's happening here? We're doing what now? What's getting renamed? You know, these bodies of water that have been this way our entire lives just because the president thought it'd be cool. That's different now. And it really does put his lunacy in a different and sort of more unnerving light, even though these changes are just not actually that impactful in and of themselves. They do shine a different light on the way the president operates and the way, because he's the president, he has a lot of these authorities. But it's even going to be worse now because back then it wasn't like we were in a war with Iran and the cost of living stuff had not been lingering for months. now it just looks like he's totally out of touch.

He's lost 40% of the approval that he had then. He was north of 50, you know, 55% approval in some of these polls right around this time. He's in the mid-30s now. So it's a far, far more hostile picture in terms of public opinion of the president. Oh, yeah. And it just reinforces this image that he's both out of touch and out of ideas and flailing pretty badly against the Canadians. Of all people, the fucking Canadians, speaking of, he's quite angry with.

them. Here's him talking about how badly Canada has treated us. I'm doing things like this towards America's allies instead of doing things that well they haven't treated us very badly. They're nasty people. They charge our farmers 400% tariffs. They've been doing it for a long time and I had them figured out in my first term and I did some pretty strong things and had it getting pretty good and then the election was rigged and now I'm coming back and doing it the way and finishing the job. But they treat us very badly. Canada treats us very badly.

I would say that of all countries, as you know, we have President and she coming in a couple of weeks. We have a lot of, we deal with a lot of people. People oftentimes, they'll ask me, who's the worst to deal with on trade? And I said, that's easy. Canada. They are the worst to trade. And they feel entitled. And just we can't have that.

Fucking hell. It's so entitled, man. Yeah. Up in Canadians. We have a few that we know. And I'm not going to speak ill of our editor on staff who's based in Canada, but he's entitled. Yeah, but he got that from growing up here. You're right.

He's a trans player. He didn't pick that up in Canada. I mean, there's so much to unpack there. And I don't, obviously, a lot of it's just absurd and bullshit. But I will just note that he cut the trade deal with Canada and Mexico in his first term, that he then blew up. I mean, there's no logic to this. Man's out of his...

Man's out of his element. I don't know. Is there anything else to say? I mean, it is kind of crazy. I just keep coming back to this. Like, the sort of broad, late night kind of comedy that you would get in, like, early 2017 that was all about, like, you know, the Trump Hotel White House and, you know, sketching these silly futures of, like, Donald Trump, hobnobob.

Nobbing around with Xi Jinping to, you know, kibits about how much they both hate doing trade with Canada. I mean, like, we didn't get quite that picture in Trump's first term. It is crazy just how far into all of those just sort of like resistance, fantasia joke material type stuff. That's just reality today. Yeah. It's true.

If they'd done some SNL skit where Trump was sitting around, like, renaming things on the map and talking about how awful Canadians were, this is just absurd. no one's going to buy it, but we're here. We've got to go to a little bit of a break, but on the other side of this, we're going to be talking about some more serious stuff because there were other portions of this event where we talked about, like, substantive things involved in Russia, where our CIA director just took a sort of a dramatic visit to Moscow, and Trump was asked to address that. And then, of course, all the stuff happening in Iran, but we'll get to that on the other

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That's upworg.com. Upwork.com. Well, let's think about Canada, which I forgot to mention, which is, he's talking about how they're belligerent and nasty to us. Like they didn't talk, they weren't talking about. about becoming the 51st state he was they weren't talking about annexation he was he's full of it all right iran russia so trump was asked about this uh john rackliff went to moscow the reports were that he went there because he was encouraging russia not to attack nato which is

something that's been in the ether for a little bit one of the reasons russia may feel emboldened to attack nato is because the united states has pulled back from a line with nato and our our missile defenses have been depleted incredibly by what's happening in Iran. There's an AP story just from this morning. The alert is U.S. military faces, quote, beyond critical shortage of patriot missiles in Europe, largely driven by the Iran war in Europe. Okay, so that might be an invitation for the Russians. Trump was asked about this, and here's what he had to say.

Has Biden agreed or committed to not attacking a NATO territory? I've had good talk He's not going to be attacking anato All right, there, done. Sure hope so. I would like for him to be correct about that. That seems really useful, right?

Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't know when he's had good talks with him, but let's hope that's the case. What do you make of all this? So obviously the military is in a bad spot. I think it's pretty much established fact now that we have critical missile shortages due to Iran. And, of course, there's no real resolution on the horizon for what's happening in Iran.

So, like, were we just in this kind of bad stasis for our foreign policy? I don't really see what the game plan is here. Yeah, I mean, the short answer is yes. There really isn't any fix for the hole in our current missile stockpiles because it just takes years and years to bring these things back up, sort of even under best conditions. I mean, they want a whole bunch more money to replenish these somewhat more quickly, you know, to throw more money at this problem. But even under the budget request that the White House is making, that is still not like we can snap our fingers and get a bunch of more Patriots tomorrow, right? Most of these missiles that we have shortages of are of two sorts.

It's like the AP story this morning was primarily talking about these Patriot interceptors, you know, defensive missiles, basically. If Russia were to launch at a NATO country, the way Russia has been launching at Ukraine. these are the missiles that would let us neuter that first strike. We would still have a lot of, a lot of punch back capability, which is still the main thing that would deter Russia from making a strike like this, is that we could still sort of rain hell down in response. But what we would not be able to do nearly as well as previously. And unfortunately, what we've started to see in Ukraine is that Ukraine has not been able to do as well as even Ukraine had prior in this conflict was whether those Russian strikes with minimal damage to, infrastructure and civilian life. So it's not necessarily like Russia's like, oh, let's get them while

they're down because we won't have to pay a price for it, but we are at a much more kind of unnerving and vulnerable place than we would otherwise been. Yeah, I mean, we've invested in a crowd amount of resources, global reputation weapons and so on in Iran for this war without seeming any end or real tangible purpose to begin with. And we did so right at the time when it look like Ukraine was turning the tides in its war in Russia. And now we're at a place where we're essentially going to Russia saying, hey, don't go into NATO countries. And also, please don't strike a nuclear deal with Iran, which is the other thing that has been surfacing in reports is that the Iranians and the Russians are close to striking a nuclear deal. Trump was

asked about that as well. Let's play that video. There is reports that Vladimir Putin is meeting with the president of Iran to talk. about a nuclear agreement next week. Is there concern in the administration, in the White House, that these countries are taking economic D-day seriously, that they're going to continue doing business with Iran despite the warnings? Iran is right now they're not paying their troops. They're in deep trouble. They have very little capacity. Last night we took 24 votes through the strait. We're taking them through all the time. They say it very openly. It doesn't mean we

we're finished with the military, but we are the straight is open, as you know. The Strait of Hormoz is open. We have control and we have the blockade. Iran's not getting anything, nothing is going through. Not one ship has gotten through. But will you punish Putin or Russia if they continue to do with. Well, it depends. It depends.

So far, I think Russia's behaved quite well having to do with the Strait of Hormuz. Unreal. I don't even know where you want to start there. 24 ships. Let's start with that. What was it? Well, first of all, no, but also wasn't like the average about like 140 or so prior to the war? Yeah, it was north of 100.

I don't remember exactly. But I have not been, I haven't refreshed the Hormuz, you know, ship tracker. Oh, you do that? You have that on your webpage? I head over there whenever I write about it, which is, you know, sporadically. But no, I mean, it's not true that it's open. We are still at a tiny trickle of the traffic that we've had, which is why there are problems. If the Strait of Hormuz were open, we would not be doing economically.

D-Day. There would be no, the Trump administration would take, take that as the world's biggest win. It would breed the hugest sigh of relief of all time that the president is correct. Finally, that the Strait of Hermuz is open. Gas prices would fall. We would, we would all go home and be happy. And that's not, it's not where we are. It's not the situation. It is kind of ironic, of course, that like this big economic DJ that they were touting, like they unveiled it and then suddenly it was like, wait a second, it's not that big. And also, it's not implemented right away. But like, he's just going absolute ham on Canada. And it totally gives away the game where it's like the whole point of it is secondary sanctions.

The whole point of it is that we're going to be willing not only to hit Iran hard economically, but hit anybody who is willing to associate economically with Iran very hard. I mean, that's like it's a giant step up and that's supposedly what makes it economic D-Day, right? But then you get the president right there where the question is, well, so if Russia, you know, flaunts these sanctions and just keeps dealing with Iran, what are you going to do? And he immediately goes totally soft and mealy mouse money. He's like, well, you know, I think they've been pretty good, you know. And like, so there's no, there's nothing new.

There's no, there's no teeth in it at all. It's not an unpot. It's not like beyond the realm of possibility that we end up having a harder economic regime against Canada than we do against like, well, I won't go that far. We'll have a hard one against Iran. But it's like the secondary sanctions issue. I don't think we're going to go hard on Russia over their business with Iran. We'll probably go harder on Canada. Wouldn't it be nice?

Wouldn't it be like a cool consolation prize if after all of these years of humiliations of, you know, Trump and his bromance with Putin and all this stuff where he put Zelensky through hell in the Oval Office and he, you know, shook around our policy toward Ukraine like for a year and just just has behaved horribly? Wouldn't it be at least something if after all of that the United States could produce as like a babble. We actually have now become closer in our diplomatic ties with Russia and we actually are able to wield more soft power over that country and get them to not funnel an economic lifeline to this other country. We're at war with Iran. But no, it's like we can't get anything new even out of Russia,

even though we have sort of turned U.S. foreign policy on its head in order to be soft on these guys in a lot of different ways. And all that we have to show for it is that Putin knows that Trump is a stooge and can continue to manipulate us in these ways. It really is insane. It's true. We bent over backwards for the guy and we can't get him to just stop it with Ukraine, which was supposed to end on day one. And now he's going to do a nuclear deal with Iran.

And we're like, well, you know, he's been good on the straight. I'm just, I still can't get over the like America shit because we're going to change all this stuff, our signage, all these websites, all this thing, all this bullshit. And then in two years or whatever, three years, we're going to just, change it back. What a waste. This whole thing is so stupid. I did tell everyone. I did warn everyone at the beginning of this broadcast. This was the dumb mistake we'll ever do

for now. But there's still like 68 days to go. It is going to be fun. It's going to be fun. No, it's not. No, no, no. The re-renaming. The re-renaming. Okay. For a lot of things you mean. If you're in the comments section, you know, if you're in the comment section, throw out some ideas

of both predictions of things that Trump will now move on to. At one point he did talk like about I think he was joking. Well, he's like, we got a golf, we got a leg. Now we need an ocean. And he was talking about renaming the Pacific. I don't know.

Okay. What would he realistic? In the comments, what would he realistically rename? And then two, if you were to be president after Trump, what would you rename? Okay. Put those in the comments. Meanwhile, before we go, one last plea, two last pleas to the people who are watching. First of all, thank you for watching.

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and we apologize for that. Okay. All right. Take care, Andrew. Talk to you.