Bulwark Takes - Even Joe Rogan & Tim Dillon Say the Minnesota Shooting Was Wrong

Episode Date: January 14, 2026

Tim Miller returns to "Piers Morgan Uncensored" to give his take on the killing of Renee Good in Minneapolis. While Nick Shirley and Will Chamberlain defend the officer’s actions as justified, even Joe Rogan and Tim Dillon said this one crossed a line.

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Hey, everybody, Tim Moe from the Bullwark here. I did it again. I did it again. I went back onto the Pears Morgan Show. I haven't been on since, I don't, I think after Charlie Kirk died and I almost lost a will to live, listening to Carrie Lake and Eric Bowling and others, you know, try to blame that on progressive liberals. They try to start a civil war over that. but you know I've just been so upset

following the murdering of Renee good that I thought that it could be a good outlet for that rage it's an idea yoga is another idea tried that too didn't work really I think I should have

gone to more than one class I guess but anyway it didn't work exactly so I tried the Piercemore good thing out and I was excited to this morning the Benny Johnson was going to be on with me. And, you know, I mean, that is a bootlicker extraordinaire. You know, he's got that new Tread on Me Daddy flag. It's kind of replaced the Gadsden flag over at the Benny Johnson show. But they didn't come. I said it was a travel issue. Maybe that was it. Instead, I had the guy that, uh, did the video about the Somali

daycare fraud who like went to all these daycares and went viral and kind of reported on stuff that New York Times and Minneapolis Star Tribune and others have been reporting on for years who has been revealed to be very unsmart to use a phrase from Ralph Wiggum. Very unsmart. And so he's on there and he's like speaking at a second grade level. So it's kind of hard to engage with him. And then I got Geraldo on there. side of this. I appreciate Geraldo, but he is talking for a long time, really filibustering.

And then I got this guy Will Chamberlain who disagrees. And we get into a little tete-a-tete. So that's the part you're going to get because, you know, that's the only part where, you know, there is an exchange of ideas on this point. Will was unhappy that I implied that you can only have a bad faith defense of this of this execution style killing on this story. streets of Minneapolis and defended his point, you know, saying that that cop was just really scared for his life and had to do it. And so we go back and forth to that a little bit. So stick around for that. I'm doing my best. I got to be out there, you know, in these Pierce Morgan streets. I got to say to peers is also, this is the thing. Pears is maybe not with us on this,

but Peers acknowledges that this shooting was wrong. Tim Miller. This has been an unbelievably divisive story. You know, my view is having watched this many times now from every possible angle, is that everybody involved made mistakes, but that ultimately that woman should not have been shot dead. Joe Rogan does? It's also very ugly.

To watch someone shoot a US citizen, especially a woman in the face, where it's like, I'm not that guy. I don't know what he thought. And again, this is a guy who had almost been run over. But it just looked horrific to me. I mean, when people say it's justifiable because the car hit him, it seemed like she was kind of turning the car away.

Tim Dillon does? Now, I don't believe from the angle I'm watching that the federal officer feared for his life. I don't believe the cop was justified in shooting her three times. in the face. It's just like anybody that is not a total security cat who's afraid of their life and like firing weapons on people all the time or who doesn't just hate lesbians and want to kill them or who just is going to defend Trump no matter what. Anybody else who votes for Trump or is an independent-minded person sees his video and sees the obvious, which as this was wrong, it was a murder. It is totally unacceptable for someone that we pay, an agent of the state.

to do this. So I get into that a little bit more with Will Chamberlain and Peers and the crew. Stick around for that. What's your view of this? Yeah, I got to tell you, I don't know what Nick's looking at if he thought that she was aiming for him. I agree with you, peers. I think everybody made mistake in this situation, but only one person got executed. And so I think we should look into why that was and what happened there and just be honest about what happened. he greeted the officer Jonathan Ross had seen her as you mentioned 20 seconds before he shot her and she said to him that's fine dude I'm not mad at you she was smiling he could see into the car there's a dog in the back seat there are children's their children's toys in the passenger

seat of the car and and then he walks around to the front she's backing up and she starts to move away this car is moving like two miles an hour it's not moving any faster than car does at any grocery store parking lot anywhere in America. The wheel is clearly pointing away, moving away for him. And then he shoots her, not just one time, but then he shoots her a second time and a third time to the side window. When he fires the third shot, he's completely to the side of the car. He's not at any danger at all.

And so I just don't see how anybody could see this and think that this person, like, legitimately felt like his life was in danger. I'd also note that he has a couple of colleagues that are standing there. None of them pulled their weapon. None of them thought, seemed to think his life was in danger. And then after the car with the dead driver goes away, he walks to it easily. And he calls her a fucking bitch. So I just look, I think this is a very clear situation.

I think everybody trying to make this complicated or trying to say she tried to kill him. They either are just intentionally spinning for the administration because they're hacks or. maybe they're just very easily scared individuals. From a purely legal perspective, put aside the morality of what happened or anything else, from a pure lawful perspective, I suspect it's quite likely that this officer will not end up being successfully prosecuted for this. Look, that's going to be a question for a jury, peers. But the point, look, people are on the right, a lot of folks are praising Nick for just honest.

in journalism when they felt that there was, you know, not honest things were being said about the daycares. Can we just be honest about this? Like, there is no way this person's life was at risk. The third shot, no one will just, no one will address this. The third shot that he shoots. The third shot, he is to the side of the car. He shoots her through the, through the driver's side window.

The car has already passed him. And then he calls her a fucking bitch. Like this guy's life is not a guy. I got hit by a car. You're trying to make this. And others, they try to say it's a both side saying, oh, it's a partisan. Obviously, the Trumpers defend him and the never Trumpers don't. That's not true.

If you look at Tim Dillon, who's a pro-Trump podcaster, Joe Rogan just today, has said this was totally inappropriate and wrong. Pierce, you know, at times, you've called it both ways, but you've been friendly with Trump. You're seeing it clearly. Only 28% of the country in a recent poll said this shoot was appropriate, including only 64% of Republicans. like no any 10% of independence nobody who looks at this with open eyes can think this was justifiable I'm sorry that's just the truth like we should just be honest about this like there is no reason to kill that woman I don't even know if you're trying actually being honest yourself in the passenger seat but well timeline why do you say timel is making matter up well he's he's

essentially accusing all of us of bad faith like I'm a lawyer I've been trained I've read a lot about the law of self-defense this was the most obvious self-defense shoot I've seen in quite some time. Really? And the, come on. Really? Absolutely. He's directly in front of the car, two feet in front of the car.

And she's barely moving to a grocery store parking lot, Will. How do you get out of Walmart without shooting somebody? I'm hoping you're not carrying a weapon when you're going through the grocery store parking lot. Because every day across the country, people are more scared than this guy. This is crazy. Offer arrests by police officers? Is this like the normal thing on the left now? Like, apparently, like, you guys are all for law enforcement until it comes time to actually enforce the law.

Hey, Will, I have a question for you. How many people do you think should have been murdered on January 6th? How many people do you think the Capitol Police should have killed that day? How many, just based on your theory of self-defense, how many people should have killed? How many people should have killed? In the sense that I don't think Renee Good should have been killed. But I actually think the Ashley Babin in good situations are very analogous. Because how many justifiably could have been killed?

No, I'm asking you. How many justifiably could have been killed in January 6th? So did Ashley Babbit. She committed felonies. Well, I think, well, I will. But Will, the argument you and I had will was about this phrase domestic terrorism. And I made the point, which other people had raised anyway, which is, you know, that was on January the 6th. By that criteria, by that criteria, you could argue that everyone that was violent

that day was a domestic terrorist. Would you agree with that? You think they were? I agree. I think I have a broader view of domestic terrorism than apparently you do. The use of violence or the threat of violence for political ends in this kind of. country is domestic terrorism. And by that definition, both Renee Good and Ashley Babbitt were domestic terrorists.