Bulwark Takes - Fingering Trio Presents: Three FBI Agents Walk Into Glenn Beck’s Living Room...

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

Tim Miller, Sam Stein, and Will Sommer take on Glenn Beck’s bizarre claim that FBI agents showed up at his house to “investigate Antifa,” and the right-wing fantasy world that takes him seriously.

Hey, everybody, Tim Miller from the Volwork here. It's the fingering trio, Sam Stein, managing editor, Will Summer, author of the False Flag Newsletter. People love the moniker. People love the moniker. Old ladies in Canada were... A couple of Canadian ladies came up. Volunteering that they wanted more fingering trio.

And so I just think it's something out there that the people need in their life right now. I can't explain it. All right. We have two topics to get to. One main topic, then I have a secondary thing. I want to ask Will about. And it is, boy, some pretty serious news, obviously, which is why you got the three of us together.

Glenn Beck over at the Blaze has been doing some research. I've been looking under rocks, you know, has the pinboard out with the yarn, has the yarn, has the whiteboard, the black, the chalk, everything. He's doing everything. He's bringing every resource he has to bear to figure out what the Antifa pyramid of power is. is. And boy, that, that work that he's been doing has caught the attention of some pretty

high profile people. Will, why don't you explain what's happened? Sure. So, I mean, you know, in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination, we've seen a lot of talk from people like Stephen Miller and Cash Patel about how, you know, they're these leftist networks and that they're going to, they're going to bust them up. But there's been, it's been very vague about who these people are. And now we find from Glenn Beck that basically they're just asking Glenn Beck, who do you think we should prosecute. Glenn Beck on his show goes on and he said, yeah, I had this episode of my show where I, and this is, I should say, I looked this episode up.

He did a classic Glenn Beck chalkboard moment where he just kind of listed out Soros, Tides Foundation. And then he says he gets a call from Cash and Tell. Before we get to the call, can we go back to the, can we go back to the previous episode? Because I want to play a clip from Glenn talking about the phone call that he received. but what like the previous episode that caught the attention of folks what was on that chalkboard sure so folks i mean this is more than a decade ago now but folks may remember glenbeck when he was on fox he would do he would kind of roll out a chalkboard and he would do what we now recognize is like the always sunny crazy wall where he goes bingingbinging it's all these you know these networks um and so last week he did he brought out the old class like sam stein worked for ariana huffington and like eriana huffington was once at a dinner with George Soros and George Soros, right, like that kind of thing. Exactly, exactly.

And so in this case, in this case, he had me dead threats. But yeah, go ahead. It's various Antifa groups as well as, it really gets kind of crazy. It's like fidelity investments, like the people who handle 401Ks. I mean, he's really casting a wide net here. And so you might think this is just kind of typical Glenn Beck craziness, but someone very powerful was watching. Last week, I did a TV show that apparently got the FBI's attention. The topic was initial investigation, a jumping off point,

shattering the myth that Antifa just, you know. It's just leaderless and decentralized. Uh-huh. We thought, no, it's really not. So we dove in headfirst, and we analyzed the Antifa network. and we went from the street thugs to the support groups, eventually to the funding. To say the FBI was interested in this might be an understatement.

Let's just say the FBI is turning over every single stone. It is so clear to me that they are exploring all angles of this, and they are talking to anyone and everyone that can give them any kind of information. How do I know? Saturday, I get a phone call. The director would like to send over some agents to speak to you, Glenn. Okay. Sam, before we get to Will, Sam, what do you think?

I stopped it right there at Glenn Beck, receiving this call. The director. From Patel, right? I mean, that's what you're saying. Someone else saying that the director wants, The director wants you to meet with people. I mean, so there's two ways to think about it. One is like Dan Bongino is just still watching Glenn Beck and is like, yo, cash, you got to check this out.

Or I guess Cash may be watching Glenn Beck. The other way to think about it is like that there's some just normal human beings in the FBI who now are being like forced to watch Glenn Beck and have to process this stuff. and they're like, I guess we got to kick this up the chain to cash and tell him about Glenn Beck's latest rant. Do they not know that this rant's been going on for a decade? And even Glenn's like, yeah, I've been on this for a decade now. This is my favorite part.

Let's go back to Glenn. He's talking now about, we're fast forward. We've got the scene where he's received the call. The director was very interested in his material. He's like, even he's freaked out. He's like, I can't believe I got this call. Three agents are coming to his home. He calls over his producer.

It's him and his wife his producer. And let's see what happened. Three agents sat in my living room on Saturday afternoon for almost two hours. And I immediately called Jason. I'm like, Jason, you're the researchers. Your fault. I'm going to throw you under the bus. You better get your put over here.

So Jason was there. And my wife and Jason and I sat there. And it was surreal at one point. I talked to him for about 15 minutes just going over the Tides Foundation. And saying, if you understand Tide, you'll understand how difficult your job is going to be. And this is information that I first gave on Fox years ago. Let me just say this. Finally, we have an administration and an FBI director that is willing to go in deep, not surface, but deep.

I can only imagine what we could have avoided if anyone in an administration would have done this in 2011. All right, so you go, Will. So Glenn is like, boy, I really had to educate these guys. They didn't know about the Tides Foundation. They didn't know anything about the vast left-wing conspiracy. I feel like I really serve my country today. This is every crank's dream, right? Is the FBI is going to call and be like, we really think you're on to something here, Glenn?

It's so crazy that with everything going on in this country, Cash Patel directs, I think, three FBI agents to go hang out with Glenn Beck for a couple hours. Glenn Beck can't even explain this stuff. So he has to have his producer come, who's like the real kind of originator of these crazy ideas. And then they just, you know, he drops knowledge. As you said, I mean, he, he's had, you know, I've been putting this stuff out there for years. What do you think? What do you think producer Jeremy was thinking when Glenn was like, Jeremy, you're on the hook for this shit?

Jeremy's probably like, man, Glenn, I've been, I've been just fucking bullshit in for wow. This is getting serious. Can I tell you something? Can I have a serious moment between bros? Yeah, sure. I've been pretty... I'm not scared of these fucking guys. You know what I mean?

Like, you know, we've got made... There's some other people in our world who are a little bit more judicious about the potential concerns coming from the overreaching government. There's one thing that is scared that has like occasionally given me some thoughts, which is I had friends that have worked with and around the FBI. And they're like, dude, you don't really even realize, like, how much of your info they can grab like before you even get to the grand jury period like they can really harass you and make your life miserable and that's just something that I've had

in the back that's reassuring geez it's a little worry it's a little worry that I've had in my life and this is I'm getting to the reassuring part Sam yeah that's three FBI agents that aren't looking into me they're spending two hours on glenbeck's couch not that I have anything to look into guys nothing to worry about there but you know I mean I just well these guys like you would think that they, that they, in one world, they could be going after actual criminals and drug dealers and child sex offenders and the people they say that they care about. On another, you could see them going after their, but like what they had, what you have here is like a clown show. Well, I guess the question that I have is like, is this real? Like, do we take Glenn Beck's

word for this? Do we know if the FBI is like, I don't know. He's not like the most trustworthy person. Yeah. I mean, so this just came out recently, so I haven't had a chance to. to hear back from the FBI on whether this is true. But I think, you know, this is an administration, I think, that's very much directed by right-wing media. There's a lot of interaction between them and people like John Solomon in terms of investigations to pursue, you know, obviously Laura Lumer loves to, you know, take people out in the administration.

So I don't think Glenn Beck would just lie about something like this. That sounds very credulous of me. True. We have the Brazilian con artist who's like apparently getting people investigated. Yeah. Can you explain the Brazilian con artist? This is, this shit is so hard to follow. So just very briefly, you know, I wrote about this woman a few months ago.

Her name is Patricia Lelis. She's a notorious accused Brazilian fraudster. She's currently on the run from our FBI. And yet, she's teamed up with- When you say our FBI, who are you referring to? Like the American FBI, she has her own saga in Brazil, but our FBI and wants her for various fraud charges in the U.S., she's teamed up with, Project Veritas, they have this whole claim that Bill Barr is secretly, you know, framing Trump for all this stuff.

And Project Veritas, they claim it's not coming from her, but they've been putting out some text messages that are very incriminating about a lot of people who are her personal enemies. And it seems like maybe the FBI is getting interested. So it's the FBI is getting interested in looking into the Brazilian fraud store or the FBI is getting interested in following the her enemies. Basically, they're maybe teaming up with her. So it's a twisted web. That is interesting. The FBI is simultaneously, so I guess what's happening in the way I can translate that in my own mind is there's like still some serious law enforcement officials at the FBI who are looking into the fraudster. And then there are the Cash Patel Dan Bongino wing of the FBI that are looking into the people that the fraudster hates.

Yes. Yes. That's basically. Well, yeah, I mean, you know, Mike Davis, who's kind of a pro-Trump lawyer, he said some of her claims have reached the highest levels of the highest levels of the. the Justice Department. So maybe it's kind of a Hannibal Lecter. And it's getting tied into the Eastern District. It's getting tied into the whole saga with the Eastern District of Virginia, too. It's really wild that. How is it tied into that saga? Well, she just very briefly. The Eastern District is the one that is pursuing her on fraud charges. And so suddenly Project Veritas has

been getting all of these text messages. They claim we're not coming from her that are very incriminating about prosecutors in the Eastern District of Virginia saying things like, you know, I really want to kill this Trump appointee and all this stuff. And when I'm saying, this is obviously coming from the woman who's been accused many times of forging text messages. That's how could you suggest that? Sam,

on the serious side of this, you know, you lived in this world, kind of progressive world, those are your sources when you're like, no. Are you saying I'm funded by the Tides Foundation? No, I'm just an agent. You had sources in Foundation world, lefty Foundation world. Sure, yeah.

And overlapping people that you know. How high alert are people there? And I think that just there are a lot of progressive, you know, kind of fundraising conglomerates that give money to a bunch of things, but including, you know, organizations that organize the protests or organize other type of social action against the administration. And I assume that like those folks are kind of probably next on the target list after this sort of first round of Comey and Tish James, et cetera.

I mean, yeah, the people who I have talked to are definitely concerned. I mean, they've gone after a lot of the recipients of the money that goes through these systems. Like, for instance, media matters, like has been, you know, targeted by this administration. Soros obviously has been targeted. You can tell that they're concerned because your boy, Mark Benoff, over the weekend. Benioff, sorry. Beanie off. That's fat fucking slob.

Oh, he's sick. He's a sick person. He wants the troops to come into San Francisco now? He used to be a bit, wasn't he a big liberal donor for a little while? He donated to the stupidest progressive shit imaginable and now he's a fascist. What do you say? Can you just be a normal? Can we just have some normal capitalists in the country running businesses?

Did he say that he wanted the troops to come into San Francisco? And he thinks Trump's doing a bang-up job now. Yeah, do you think that's legit or do you think he's just trying to curry favor with Trump? I can't get inside his head. I don't know. I think people have gone crazy. Honestly, I think people have gone crazy on both sides.

I got a question for Will, though. Anyway, I got lost, though, at that conversation. So you think that my, you may have kind of my buddy Benioff, but like what? So those donors, you think. Donors are frees, man. Yeah, they're definitely feeling it. And as you're saying that Benioff might be doing this because of that fear. I wonder.

We don't know. We don't know. But it wouldn't surprise me. Got it. Okay. There's plenty of donors who stop giving. There's plenty of donors who won't speak up. There's plenty of donors.

who are rethinking going through some of the usual channels and directly don't. So there's a whole system of liberal giving where you give to places like the Tides Foundation and they become the sort of disseminators of the cash and you basically entrust them to kind of fuel different operations. And the new movement now is for donors to just directly seed different groups rather than cut one big check, which you might say, okay, that's fine, whatever, just get the money out, but you spend less money that way, right? Writing one big check.

And it makes it seem more, I don't know, I don't know. Anyway, I don't know if that helps them that much, really, on the targeting by the government. Also, the donors don't really know who's doing the most effective work, right? I have one last question for Will before. I don't know if I was running it. And then I have the last, last question. So two more questions for Will. Well, how often do you watch Glenn Beck or one of these shows and then something will come on like, hey, I got a call from the FBI office?

And you're like, wait, wait, what the fuck? Rewind, what did he just say? Like, is this like now a regular occurrence for you? Well, you know, I'm thinking here, too, of the time Candace Owens was like, oh, you know, Trump called me personally to ask me to stop investigating whether Brigitte McCrone is trans. Oh, right. Yeah. You know, and I do think this gets into the, like, the one maybe saving grace here for the rest of us is that these people keep blowing up these weaponization schemes, these Justice Department things, by revealing them prematurely. And so, you know, you have Glenn Beck saying like, yeah, I'm the main source for some upcoming federal investigation. Or in the case of Alex Jones when Ed Martin at DOJ was supposed to be shaking down someone involved in the Sandy Hook case, Alex Jones said, here's the letter they're working on my behalf. And then they're had to pull it back. I'm changing the subject for the last topic because I just, you sent a tweet,

Will, over the weekend that made me actual LOL, not just write LOL like millennials do. We write LOL, even though we don't laugh. But I was audibly guffawing to myself. And it was about this poster, this movie poster that was created online that was getting circulated

about an alleged Turning Point USA, Super Bowl halftime show, an alternate halftime show to compete with Bad Bunny. It's on the screen here so people can look at it. I want everybody to look at it very closely, see if you notice anything. That's pretty believable. It's believable enough that several mega influencers retweeted it, but you've got an eagle eye. You've got a bald eagle eye, if you will, there will. What do you notice about that that makes you think that's not true?

Well, at the very bottom, it says, a special appearance from measles. Is that not a band? well you know even are they in the indecine all these not in the indie scene okay all these people some guy from info wars all these people were like this is going to be 100% better than bad bunny this is going to rock and then one person was a little skeptical and said you know who the F is this band measles is this is I don't know they went platinum last year I can't put one past these guys all right um the trio was back together again Good to see you, boys. That's Sam Stein. That's Will Summer. Subscribe to the feed.

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