Bulwark Takes - GOP Senator Tells Americans to Accept Higher Gas Prices

Episode Date: March 12, 2026

Sam Stein and Catherine Rampell give their takes on the sudden shift in Republican messaging on gas prices after the war with Iran disrupted global oil markets. For years, Republicans blamed Joe Bide...n for high prices at the pump. Now, with prices rising again under Donald Trump, some GOP lawmakers are telling Americans they need to “make sacrifices” or even suggesting struggling families just need better financial literacy.Get free shipping and 365 day returns with Quince at https://Quince.com/BULWARKTAKES.

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Starting point is 00:01:06 She's straight back from a Grateful Dead show with her shirt on. Laundry Day. I was going to wear a tie-dye shirt, too. I'm glad we didn't. I'm glad we didn't do that. That would have been embarrassing, Sam. Yeah, absolutely. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:21 We're going to be talking about gas prices. I guess, yeah, gas prices primarily, but the larger thing here is that suddenly Republicans who've been, you know, just running consistently on, well, we're making life easier for Americans. We're going to decrease the cost of living. They're turning around in the aftermath of the war in Iran and saying, you know what? Things are going to get a little expensive and people just have to grin and bear it. It's an abrupt change of messaging and we're going to unpack it. So, Catherine, you've been pointing this out.
Starting point is 00:01:52 I hadn't really seen all the clips until recently, but it is sort of remarkable. we're going to get to the clips in a little bit how big a 180 this is with respect to messaging around affordability. Oh, absolutely. Trump came into office, arguably won the election on an argument that he was going to bring prices down, that Biden had made your life much more expensive and only Trump could fix it. He was going to bring costs down, tame inflation, and make everybody rich again. And instead, he has made everyone much poorer even before, well, maybe almost. Almost everyone I should qualify. Almost everyone much poorer. His sons are doing just fine.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Let's just be clear about that. His sons are doing fine. Lots of cabinet members are doing fine. Christy Nome seems to be doing fine, even though she got her new promotion of sorts to the whatever of the shield. But yeah, I mean, prices have continued to go up to the extent that inflation was on a downward trajectory before Trump came into office. You know, we were very close to a a coveted soft landing, meaning that inflation gets tamed without a recession. We are no longer in that circumstance anymore. And that's the case well before this war. It was because of Trump's tariff policy amongst a whole bunch of other wrongheaded,
Starting point is 00:03:14 boneheaded ideas. But the war has, in addition to its human costs, has obviously had major effects on the cost of living as well. Yeah. And now, normally you would think, okay, I'm a politician. I'm up for election. I'm going to sort of say, I feel your pain. I'm going to do the Clinton thing.
Starting point is 00:03:31 I'm going to say, this is unfortunate. It's horrible. We're doing everything we can to get these prices down. But that's not what's really happening here. What they're saying is people need to just be smarter about certain things. So here, let's play the John Hustead. He's the senator from Ohio. He's running in this cycle.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Here he is talking about how people kind of almost putting the blame on them for not being able to navigate the rise. and gas price situation. And people living in poverty are just not very, they're not very experienced at navigating the real world, right? I remember talking to one young lady who said, well, I don't really know how money works at a grocery store because she grew up and has lived all of her adult life using snap cards to buy groceries. And so you literally have to teach people how to budget. The buzzword today, let's face it, it's affordability, right? Unreal. Affordability is a buzzword. I'm all for financial literacy. Affordability. It's just a buzzword. And you've got to really figure out how to buy things because you've just been living on snap cards. Talk about tone deaf. I mean, that's blaming people for being too stupid to get, you know, through the grocery store. It's unreal.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Yeah. Somehow when we had high inflation in the aftermath of COVID, that was not consumers' fault. according to this, you know, brain trust that we're referring to here. That was all because of the Democrats and Joe Biden. And look, I was pretty critical of Democratic fiscal policy at the time. So, you know, I don't want to give them a complete pass. But nowhere did we hear that the problem was that consumers were too dumb to use a grocery store. It's just, like, amazing the pretzels that these guys are tying themselves into in order to duck responsibility for something that their party leader is obviously responsible for.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Like normally, including back then, you know, I would have said, look, presidents get too much credit, too much blame, you know, for good economy, bad economy, high prices, et cetera. And here it's really unavoidable that like the cause and effect, right, that Donald Trump launched this war, effectively led to a blockade in the straight of Hormuz. Oil can't get through, fertilizer can't get through, lots of other things can't get through, and that's driving up prices. Like it's a very clear line from point A to point B, and consumers are smart enough to figure that out. They may not know how to walk through a supermarket, I guess, but they can figure out that,
Starting point is 00:06:18 you know, bombs falling may disrupt the flow of gasoline. Slightly. Now, you mentioned it because it's so recent, but also it's a really interesting parallel, which is what happened with Biden in 2022. So just to go back a little bit, we emerge from the COVID pandemic. We have all these supply chain shocks. The things are coming back online. And that's absolutely affecting the price of gas globally. And then on top of that, you have the war in Ukraine. And then on top of that, the Saudis decide they're not going to play ball with Biden, even though it goes there, he gives that infamous fist bump to NBS. They're not. not going to open up any oil production. They're just going to continue selling to the Saudis. And Biden is stuck, right? He's totally stuck in terms of what he can do. He taps the strategic petroleum reserve, but that's basically it. And at the time, Republicans were saying, well, you know, you shut down the keystone pipeline. You're not drilling enough, let alone, you know, putting aside that these things would have been a 10-year window to get the gas online. They blame him directly for his policies having an effect on the oil market. In this case, to your
Starting point is 00:07:23 point, it's the inverse of that. We had a war of choice launched in Iran, and the obvious side effects of that was going to be the global energy market was going to be dramatically disrupted. And we are seeing that. That's led us to the second type of kind of PR campaign to the Republicans of wage, which is more or less, you got to endure it. Like, this is worth the cost. So let's play Mark Alfred of Missouri talking about, you know, well, Americans just kind of need to suck it up. Yeah, Americans are willing to make that sacrifice. I think the people in my district are. They fully understand. I think it's our job to help bring people along to them and explain what's at stake. You know, I'm willing to pay 30% or 30 cents more at the pump to make sure that
Starting point is 00:08:04 Iran does not have a nuclear weapon that's going to hit the United States. So I guess I would understand this a little bit more if in fact the public was supportive of the war, which polling indicates they are not. But, you know, secondarily, it's easy to say you'll pay 30 cents more at the pump when you're a member of Congress. If your job is dependent on driving, if you're low income and you have to get to work every day and you've got to get in the car, that 30 cents is not insignificant. That actually is going to matter materially for you. So that seems very much detached from reality to me.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Yeah, absolutely. There are a number of problems with that sentiment that you just played there. One, of course, is that it's completely tone deaf about the fact that people are already struggling to make ends meet. They already have absorbed a lot of price growth over the past five or six years and are feeling very frustrated by that. But in addition to all of that, it's like telling people that they have to make sacrifices for what are not very clear or articulate objectives in a war that is not a war that is already over and we've already won. Like, Like, those are the, that's the level of paradoxes and just like self-contradictions of all of this, you know, that not only did they run on a promise of bringing down prices and they have not done that.
Starting point is 00:09:40 And not only are they blaming people's financial illiteracy, but they're also saying people are like basically selfish for not being willing to absorb. this sacrifice for whatever it is, a sacrifice for some as yet undetermined objective for this war, that by the way, is not a war and that according to Donald Trump has already been won. I don't know how that fits on a bumper sticker exactly, but either way, I don't think it's going to really resonate with the American people. And I feel like there's a lot of cope going on, I guess, is maybe the right way. to summarize. It's also worth remembering, like, it's not the, obviously not the same parallel, but, you know, the war in Iraq, as contentious as it was, there was almost a year buildup where the administration made the case, right?
Starting point is 00:10:32 It was, again, I'm not trying to compare these things. They insisted that there was WMD that Stadams was a threat. They went to Congress. They got to vote for authorization. They at least proactively made a case. I disagreed with it at the time and turned out to be flimsy. but in this instance, it wasn't even like a case was made. It was we woke up one day and we are at war.
Starting point is 00:10:55 And it doesn't appear that they accounted for the possibility that there would be adverse economic consequences. Now, I kind of want you to put this in a larger context because, as you noted, inflation was going down. We're getting some signals that inflation has been relatively stable. We get these inflation reports, at least more stable than I think people had thought. after the implementation of all those tariffs. You know, the tariffs are in limbo right now. But what is the sort of 30,000-foot picture for what the state of inflation is in this country? Inflation had been on this downward glide path, basically, up until about April.
Starting point is 00:11:37 April, just coincidentally, happens to be when Trump announced his Liberation Day, those global tariffs that jacked up the prices of lots and lots of money. imports around the world. So inflation had been coming down. It then started creeping back up again. It's kind of stabilized, but it's higher than it should be higher than the Fed's target. And you're right that there had been fear that inflation would be even higher than it is now because of those tariffs. And for a little while, there was maybe something of a puzzle about like, well, why haven't those costs been passed along to consumers, given that import prices have gotten a lot more expensive and those get passed along down the supply chain. And one of the reasons is that a lot of firms
Starting point is 00:12:27 were sort of trying to hold off passing along higher costs to consumers because they were expecting that the Supreme Court would strike down the tariffs as happened and that they would get that money that they had paid in tariffs back. And so they would just like have to hold on to, you know, that hole in their budget for a little while, not pass it on to not pass on the higher cost to consumers because they didn't want to piss off their customers, essentially. And they could eventually, you know, on the other side of all of this litigation, be made whole. And that hasn't quite happened, right? So a lot of companies that had been holding off raising prices until they got their money back,
Starting point is 00:13:10 they're still not getting their money back. And there's a lot of uncertainty still. about whether or when they will be rebated back those tariffs. And you can see some evidence of this decision-making process in the recent inflation numbers, which show that, like, for example, appliance costs got a lot more expensive, you know, relative to the previous trajectory. Apparel costs got more expensive food also. And those are all things where you might expect to see some of these tariff costs being passed along. And it's like a combination of, you know, companies were holding their breath waiting to see if they were going to get the tariff money back and trying to
Starting point is 00:13:54 keep their prices relatively steady. Inflation had been coming down until Trump screwed that up. And he's now screwed it up several different ways. One is with tariffs. Two is with this war. And then three, four, five, and six are a bunch of other things that we can get to. Board takes is sponsored by Quince. These days, I'm all about quality over quantity, especially in my closet. If it's not well made and versatile, it's just not worth it to me. That's why I love Quince. The fabrics feel elevated.
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Starting point is 00:15:58 grapple on inflation is he's just going to go straight at energy costs. I mean, that's been a repeated mantra for him. he said, well, everything depends on energy. I think he's even said something like, you know, the price of donuts. You want cheap donuts. You got to have low gasoline costs. And so this, you know, as just a matter of his own narrow view of policy, is a disaster. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Well, if you look back at what he was saying in the state of the union, like literally a week and a half before we bombed Iran, he was bragging about low gas prices. I mean, he was like making up some of these numbers. But he was saying how proud. American should be and how much good he's done for this country by cutting gas prices. And now, of course, they're like, oh, gas prices. Who cares about gas prices? That's not really that important unless you're, like, too financially illiterate to go
Starting point is 00:16:47 through a grocery store or too selfish to deal with this. Too idiotic to understand anything other than snap cards. Back when Biden was president, this was something similar they were grappling with. And, you know, I'm going to read a statement from Roger Marshall of Kansas, the center of Kansas. This was him in 2022 blaming Biden. So he says, instead of proposing responsible solutions to rising costs, President Biden's only answer is to double down and has failed far left agenda. Take zero responsibility for the inflation crisis he created.
Starting point is 00:17:15 A country is facing the worst price increases in the last 40 years. And now the average cost of gasoline is at its highest ever recorded price. So there's Roger Marshall basically saying gas prices are Biden's fault. Okay. Yeah. Now here's Roger Marshall this week talking about gas prices in Donald Trump. I'm asking you about gas prices that Americans are paying that are extremely high and having wild swings, in part because of the war with Iran, that the president started.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Right. So again, freedom is not free. Americans are going to have to make some sacrifices, but we're operating from a point of strength. All right. So I'll give him a little credit, actually. I'm going to give him credit. He at least is saying, he's at least implicitly acknowledging that Trump did cause us, but that's just the price you have to pay. my contention is though, and I think it's yours, is that in fact, there are very few levers a president has to affect the cost of gasoline. I mean, there's things you can do to gut it at the edges, but there's not much you can do, at least in the immediate future. But not in this case, because in this case, there was something that was done that did directly impact the cost of gasoline.
Starting point is 00:18:21 So I guess the question is, what are the levers that a president has to affect this market? Yeah, this is a question that has bedeviled presidents pretty much every time there's an election year and gas prices are uncomfortably high, or at least uncomfortably high for political purposes. And Biden dealt with this, as you pointed out, Biden dealt with this in large part because of another war. That was the war in which Russia invaded Ukraine, which I don't think you played it there, but Republicans criticized Biden for, pinning any blame for high gas prices on that war. And now they're saying, well, obviously, gas prices go up when there's a disruption in oil supply because of a war. So this has bedeviled, like every administration, there are really not that many tools. They can release oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, but that's supposed to be used only in the case of a true
Starting point is 00:19:18 emergency. Presidents use it all the time when the emergency is just that high gas prices are unpopular. But so it's not like that's unprecedented. But the problem is if the disruption in oil, which looks right now to be the largest disruption in oil supply in history, if that persists, you only have one shot at using the oil in the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. Once it's gone, it's gone. And so it may not be super strategic to do that because you want that oil there in the case of an actual national security incident, something, you know, you need whatever, you need oil for our military or something. So there's that, you know, they can jawbone oil companies. And Biden certainly did that to sort of comical effect, like, why don't you guys, like, lower your
Starting point is 00:20:13 prices and why don't you drill more? And that's not really going to do anything. In this case, Donald Trump is also trying to jawbone oil companies by saying, like, why don't they just sail through the straight anyway, like, show some guts and go through it? I've seen multiple interviews where he said some version of that. Like, they should just go through anyway. Encouraging them to use the straight of course. Yeah, I think they should. I think they should. I think they should use this.
Starting point is 00:20:42 I don't know. My opinion, look, we took out just about all of their mindships in one night. We're up to boat number 60. I didn't realize that that big a Navy. I would say it was big and ineffective. But every one of their ships, just about all of their Navy is gone. Here's exactly what he said. These ships should go through this trade of her moves and show some guts.
Starting point is 00:21:05 There's nothing to be afraid of. They have no Navy. We sunk all their ships. You first, Donald Trump. Right. There might be mines there. Yeah, he's like, why don't you do like a demonstration sale, a nice big photo op to show everyone just how safe it is. Somehow I don't think he's going to take us up on that. And then another thing
Starting point is 00:21:23 he has done, of course, is he has relaxed sanctions on Russia because Russia is a petro state. And again, the reason why gas prices went up, or among the reasons why gas prices went up in 2022 is because we placed sanctions on Russia. We've placed even more sanctions on Russia since then. Now Donald Trump is saying, you know how we said people shouldn't be buying oil from Russia? well, maybe it's okay. India, we're going to suspend our, you know, third party sanctions on you. You can go ahead and buy oil from Russia again. That's fine. You know, we want to alleviate the prices here. The irony, of course, is that, like, first of all, Russia is is already replenishing its war chest, its financial war chest here because gas prices, or rather, oil and gas prices have skyrocketed.
Starting point is 00:22:14 So they're benefiting just from the fact that prices are up. They're now also benefiting from the fact that prices are up and they have more customers that they can sell to. Meanwhile, they are giving strategic military advice to Iran about how to target American targets, American soldiers, American blood and treasure. And so this whole roundabout solution, if you want to call it, to high gas prices, a problem caused by Trump is just causing even more problems by putting more service members in harm's way, by emboldened. and enriching Putin. So Putin's really the winner in all of this. But, you know, that's the only mechanism. That's really the only major lever that Trump has at this point is to get more oil flowing.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Because, like, in America, we're producing, you know, record high amounts of oil. We were doing that already. It's not like a whole lot more you can wring out of that, at least in short order. You have this disruption in the strict. of 20% of the world's oil, the only release valve you have here, really, is Russia. So you can help Russia and maybe try to alleviate some of the pain at the pump here in the United States, but obviously you cause lots of other problems in the meantime. So I've heard a lot of people say, well, you know, the United States is a net exporter at this point. Like, why are we even
Starting point is 00:23:42 affected by what's happening globally if we're a net exporter of oil? And on top, that we seem to have basically taken over the Venezuelan oil market. Shouldn't that buffer us a little bit from what's happening in Iran? So there is truth to the fact that we are a net exporter. We are, again, producing more oil than any country has ever in history on Earth. So you would think we would be more insulated. And I think we are more insulated than we were in, say, like the 1970s when there was another oil blockade.
Starting point is 00:24:15 But we're not an altar. You know, we are not a completely self-sufficient country that doesn't trade with other countries. Some of the oil that we produce here gets refined abroad. Some of the oil abroad gets refined here, depending on what kind of oil it is and what kind of refinery it needs. So there's that. Beyond that, you know, if we don't sell our oil abroad, again, we have all of these interconnected supply chains around the world.
Starting point is 00:24:42 So if we were hoarding our oil, even if we could refine all of it ourselves, and reserve it solely for American consumption, some of that oil needs to go into the production of things abroad that Americans then consume or that become inputs in other parts of the supply chain that eventually become products that Americans consume. You know, globalization is a real thing. You can't just get rid of it.
Starting point is 00:25:08 You can't wave a magic wand, as Donald Trump would like to do. And nor should you want to, you know, there are benefits to that system unless you have a president who does not anticipate the foreseeable consequences of throwing a wrench in all of those supply chains. So it's not like we can just hang on to all of those barrels of oil and we'd be okay. You're still not going to have the refined products that we need in sufficient supply. And you're going to, again, screw up all of the other downstream products that rely on petroleum or petroleum buy products that, you know, get used elsewhere in the world that ultimately make their way to Americans.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Well, just a tease of what's to come. We have a newsletter. We're recording this Wednesday afternoon. We'll probably put this up Wednesday later today. Lauren Egan, author of the opposition newsletter about what's going on Democratic politics, has a really good newsletter coming about how Democrats are trying to capitalize on this moment, with a lot of them pointing out just the contradictions that Republicans have made from where they were a couple years ago under Biden, and, of course, pointing to comments like the one from John Houston, who seems to think that people are just too stupid to figure out how to navigate these price increases. So stay tuned for that.
Starting point is 00:26:28 That will be in your inbox, but only if you are a Bulln-Rex subscriber, which is important in these times because we give you great stuff like this. Catherine, thanks so much. Really appreciate it. Say hi to the cat who disrupted this program several times because the cat's upset with the oil prices too. Thank you all for watching, Bullwork Takes. Subscribe to this feed on YouTube as well and we'll talk to you soon.

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