Bulwark Takes - Inside MAGA’s Wildest Feud (Highly NSFW!)
Episode Date: August 6, 2025Sam Stein, Tim Miller, and Will Sommer take on the craziest MAGA influencer drama you’ve ever seen—complete with enough NSFW dirt to make Jerry Springer blush. Buckle up, baby! ...
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Hey, guys, Sam Stein, managing editor at the Borg, joined by Tim Miller and Will Summer, to talk about, I don't even know, honestly, how to describe it.
How would you describe it, Tim?
A reality show, catfight among MAGA influencers.
And I'm begging, I've been already on Twitter, I've been begging Matt Gates to host an O-A-N show.
Jerry Springer.
Yeah, well, maybe, yeah, Jerry Springer is probably right, but I kind of want him to be the Andy Cohen, you know, where he brings back.
all together all these women these women are out for blood i mean they i've never seen anything like
it the way in which all they're all maga this is all maga on maga crime they're all influencers
and boy okay they don't seem to like each other so i i admit that i don't really know these
people like at all but will does where are you where have you been yeah you don't know morgan ariel
Morgan Ariel is one of the most prominent T.P. USA girls turned anti-Semite, you know, like far-rightist.
Okay. Will, why don't you give us just before we get into the TikTok here, because it's juicy and shit, Will, who are these people? Like, how significant are they?
Yeah, so this is sort of a feud between people who are sort of right, far-right influencers. I would say for the most part, like too racist or anti-Semitic to get an invite to TPUSA anymore, to returning point USA. But like, it's,
that kind of world like they're like they wouldn't get on fox news probably but they still
have pretty big followings i mean like everyone we're talking about here has probably at least
100 000 90 000 followers on x some go up to i think a million um and so they're pretty
big deals i mean it was last night this has been kind of brewing for a few days and then i was
keeping an eye on it and then suddenly someone was like well you got figured fingered in the lobby
and i thought all right all right this needs to be shared with a broader audience first of all i like
how Will's so anthropological about it.
He's so academic the way he discusses
it. Like we're talking about dildos
figuring in the lobby and Will's just
got his button up shirt and talking about the show.
The other thing I liked about Will is he is
demure enough to initially
post a screenshot that redacted
the names of these young women.
It's happening in public. It was his initial
post and like literally
my phone starts lighting up
with friends like tell Summer to post
the full tweet. Like I need to see
who was the
Who fingered who in the lobby?
I have to know.
So anyway, I will say this lobby incident has been,
this has been kind of the talk of the town for several years and they're far right.
So I'm excited to get into that.
Okay.
When we get to,
when we get to that in the sequence of the tweets,
we're going to let you just sort of cook a little bit.
So we tried to map this out.
It was really hard because there's multiple directions it takes a couple of accusations of
dildos and HPV and sleeping with black men as if they were a crime.
the origin appears to be Sarah Stock, who will, correct me if I'm wrong, she's like a newcomer
on the scene.
Yeah, she's relatively new.
People may know her from the Sam Cedar Jubilee video, you know, one of these like
liberal versus 20 conservatives, but she's the one who's like, America is a white ethno state.
And people are like, whoa, whoa.
And so she's used that to really increase her profile from there.
All right.
So Sarah Stock posts a photo.
it's a fairly standard engagement photo it's her with her hand and then rings on it and um there's like a
flower of fields it all looks pretty nice but apparently the ring wasn't big enough and so that sets off
pearl davis yeah who is who pearl davis just briefly is it's sort of like a almost like a
female andrew tate character she's very like women need to be submissive to men you know and she does
these kind of crazy takes that
just for a second then when you said she's a female
Andrew Tate character I thought she was sex trafficking men
and I was like okay I'm interested
in her reverse Tate
she has she has Andrew Tate like views
yes so yeah she has very
I guess anti-feminist views and that's how she built her
platform and but I should say like Pearl really
hates other women and it's a big deal with her
because she has very trad views but she
is herself not married or as far as I know in a
relationship so whenever these more
trad women get married she like kind of gets
mad about it okay just really quick i want to throw out there this is a quick aside it is not safe
as a mega influencer to post engagement photos that's just something we've learned last two weeks
we also had robbie suave of a of reason who posted his gay engagement photo and that yielded
some of the nastiest shit i've ever seen in the responses before this before this video so just
we we now have two data points if you're a mega influencer and you get engaged keep it to yourself
That's a pretty good public service announcement material out there.
All right.
So Pearl Davis says Sarah is just posting the engagement photo to promote her brand.
And then it really takes a fucking turn.
Which is a relatively gentle rib, I would say.
Yeah, but it's not necessary, but it's fine.
It's not beyond the bounds.
Then it really fucking takes a turn because Sarah shoots back that Pearl is, quote,
ran through by black guys.
What the fuck?
Why the fuck?
Why? I don't, just totally taking it to a level that was not necessary.
Yeah, well, these women really hate Pearl, I should say, because she's constantly, like, undermining other right-wing women.
She's like the amorosa of this reality thing.
Clearly, like, they were just, she was ready to go off on Pearl.
Yeah, okay. Now, then comes from the top rope, Emily saves America.
Who the fuck is that? I should know.
probably. Emily Saves America is sort of just like, you know, what you might, I wouldn't call
them this, but like a right wing e-girl, right? I mean, she kind of like floats between, I think,
these right-wing outlets. And I think she was at the blaze until recently. And, you know, she just
does videos about, you know, how great Trump is. She makes fun of learning size than Ian Smith.
Yeah. This guy is famous. This guy is famous because he refused to close a gym in New Jersey
during COVID. And he became famous for that. But he's like, he's like basically like a Nazi. I mean, he's like really
right way. So he comes out, he calls her an unwed, childless Fox News girl boss who complains when
woman makes sourdough, now hates on ring size of a happily engaged young woman. Congrats, Bozo,
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writes back between allegedly, in quotations, cheating on your wife, being caught with a dildo up
your ass, killing a teenager. I don't know why she blacked out the eye in that.
a teenager with your first of two DUIs, you really should sit this one out.
Why do these people know so much about each other?
I think there's another thing that is interesting to me.
But what is the dildo up your ass story?
Do you know the back story to that, Will?
I was wondering.
I have to be honest, I'm not familiar with the dildo situation.
This is the first I was hearing of it.
I do know he does have a history of DUIs.
And I guess this fatal car crash, I think, could come up in the past.
But this is a guy who, again, like,
Pearl is a very contentious figure on the right.
And so people really have the receipts on him.
Okay.
Could you get back to us with more on the dildos that you're mission?
The next false flag needs to be about the dildare.
And I don't want to impug this guy.
I mean, nothing.
I guess it's not impugning to get a dildop your ass.
That's totally appropriate if that's what you're into.
But, you know, we don't want any false information out there.
No.
And we're going through this incredible dildo epidemic at WMBA games.
We're throwing dildos all over the floor.
we're really in a golden age of dildos.
Yeah.
So this is not the insult that Emily thinks it is.
Now, a separate fight starts breaking out on the side.
Morgan Ariel, Will, let's dive in.
Who's Morgan?
Yeah, Morgan Ariel was sort of a turning point USA figure until she got really anti-Semitic.
And so kind of got the boot from that.
She's kind of like a tier two, Candice, maybe tier three.
She's kind of like a homeless man's Cam, Candice Owens kind of.
Exactly. She's not like the great value, Candace. I mean, she's a couple of tears below that.
I want to get back to Morgan because I'll let you know, during the course of this, I began to feel sympathetic towards Morgan.
And then I found the most blatantly anti-Semitic tweet from her that was issued just like hours before this whole thing went down.
I was like, oh, wait, no, not my side of the fight.
Anyways, she comes in and she says to Emily, you gave it up for freeho, might want to sit this one out.
and Emily, who just knows one speed, responds with a bazooka, Morgan, your baby daddy abandoned
you. You're raising a bastard child, but yet somehow some way you think you're better than me
or anyone on this app. You gave it up for free, got left in the dust, and now post rage bait
on X to supplement the inadequacy of your monthly child support payments.
Is Morgan's baby daddy also an influencer? Is that right or do I have that mixed up?
Do we not know?
I don't think we know that.
At some point, I believe Pearl also says, you know, like Morgan, you have HPV because
Morgan posted a YouTube about her HPV once.
I mean, it's like stuff that, you know, this is in high school, be like, holy smokes.
Like, these are really going for it.
Right.
And it just goes from there.
I want to, because then Morgan.
We shouldn't be stigmatizing HPV either, I should say.
I know.
It's easily dealt with.
Okay.
So that's just, you know, just something I wanted to throw out there.
I like that you're defending all this stuff, the real voice of reason here.
Okay, and then comes the real, like, kudegra.
I mean, this one was truly from the depths of, like, anger and humiliation.
So just, more again, just, just to contextualize, because now we're giving a lot of names.
This is the anti-Israel anti-Semite who is a single mother who has HPV.
Came in late.
Not the dude with a dildo in his ass.
She came in late to the debate, and now she's going after not the original person that
posted the engagement photo, but the person that made fun.
of the person who posted the engagement
yeah we have like multiple players here
yes of course we have the as dildo guy
the hbva girl we have emily saves america
we have pearl who somehow through the
first lob and then like got out
and then we have sarah stock who
accused pearl i believe of like
having sex with black dudes as if that's
a crime and then just was like kind of quiet for a
little bit but here's morgan
responding to emily saves america
in what is the the
perfect uh
tweet of the night
none of this is true
family but unlike you i don't lie so here are some facts guys buckle in here you got fingered in the
middle of the hotel lobby at a tp u s a event well everybody watched and there were families around
any slam that starts with you got fingered is going to be a winner i have to say just just just
just as a figure skating judging not discussing the morality of it it's like it's like
running the triple axle in the first jump right there it's a strong out there you brag about
having sex with married magadads and doing drugs, you have been completely, you've been completely
ran through, they keep saying ran through. You've been completely ran through by both single and
married men in the right wing. You call young virgins losers, encourage them to have premarital sex
and you're pro-abortion. You're a disgusting feminist horror with a Jezebel spirit who uses filters
in all her videos. Ouch, Morgan. Deep cut. Deep cut. And live. And lives.
in rebellion to God while grifting off the conservative movement and simultaneously trashes
as women who desire to live God-honoring lifestyles because their engagement rings didn't
cost enough or their lifestyle isn't flashy enough. But yeah, I'm the one who needs money,
you gold-digging ho. So yes, I am better than you. Well, there's a lot of, there's a lot of
lore about this fingering. And I just wonder if you could add any color to it. Yeah.
This is where Will's expertise comes in. Yeah. So I've actually been in Twitter spaces where
right-wing influencers have talked about the fingering incident, the hook-up incident, whatever.
Basically, current revolt, which is a right-wing blog out of Texas, which actually does some decent
reporting, they reported a few years ago, basically this came to head when Christian Walker,
who people may remember is the son of Herschel Walker, he accused Elijah Schaefer, who is a right-wing
guy who worked at the blaze and left that under allegations of sexual assault to his coworkers.
We should throw out there really quick that Elijah Schaefer has now spent off.
his own kind of white nationalist right wing media outlet that's right yeah that's like i see a lot
in my feed um so you know some prominence in the white nationalist uh uh you know area yes and that comes
up because because so basically christian walker and current revolt acute said that emily here
had hooked up with elijah schaefer in the lobby and i'm assuming given it's a tb usa
lobby i'm assuming it's the same thing that's being referred to oh my god so elijah schaefer is the finger
that's the allegation that's the allegation
according to christian walker according to christian walker and i would also say just to show you
ancestral all this is elijah shaffer is now sarah stock's boss at his new media venture so you know
it's a it's a it's a it's a original person that posted the engagement photo so just to circle
this up for people who are trying to follow the fingerer okay who fingered the lady that went after
Sarah Stuck for her engagement
photo is also the boss
of the engagement photo
poster. Got it. Okay.
That's interesting. That's an interesting.
All right. So as this is going down
and Morgan and Ariel's going after
Emily saves USA and
Pearl who started a lot of this
decides that she's going to
go after Morgan. So
sorry, I'm catching my breath here.
She says Morgan, you're a single mother with a
public video admitting you have HPV.
You may want to sit this one out.
oh man and then we just keep going from there
emily goes after morgan for raising a bastard child
morgan then goes after emily for i had that we got the finger right okay okay so
that brings us to um me uh i i went through this whole thing just sort of
kind of like i feel bad for morgan because she's really like just you know
it it just seemed rough on her and i felt like that was wrong and like you know
they were a bunch of racist shit and stuff like that and then i just kind of like
decided to check out who morgan was
a little bit and I like just all I did I just scrolled through the Twitter feed like literally like
half a page like not even that and I stumble upon this tweet that she had issued earlier in the day
like 727 p.m. So we're talking about hours before this whole thing went down where she writes
TPUSA kicked me out of their organization and blacklisted me because I exposed Israel and the
Talmud right after October 7th Charlie Kirk is owned by his Jewish donors and his loyalty doesn't
lie with Christians. Christ is king. And I thought to myself, geez, that's fucking anti-Semitic.
And I don't know if I can take sides with this person anymore. You're no longer team Morgan.
I don't think there is a side taking in this situation. No, I've just got it. I don't think that
there's anybody, any, anybody that is a white hat. I think that it's sort of a-
Who comes out looking well here? No one? I guess Sarah Stock. She's engaged with a reasonable.
But she was throwing out accusations about, oh, you sleep in black people. And it's like,
what the fuck? Oh, is that her?
Yeah, and, you know, she's got the tiny diamond and all that.
She went and responded to pro by saying, once you stop getting ran through by black guys, it can happen to you too.
Yeah, these people are not great.
Last question for Will, what the fuck happens at TPUSA gathering?
It's like, what is going on there?
It's just a fuck fest?
What is like the deal?
They sound fun if you're into it.
I mean, this kind of thing, I should say, like, allegations of, like, who misbehaved at TPUSA, this is a very common trope on the right about, like,
we all know what you were up to at the bar
this kind of stuff. I mean, I think someone made
the reference they're like, hey, I'm just surprised to hear
heterosexual sex was happening at TPSA
events. So this
is a frequent topic.
All bad. Tim, any final thoughts?
Well, I have a podcast on some real topics
I've got to get to.
Fair enough. This is real? You know, things
that are happening in the world, but I appreciate you guys
adding me at the last second because
anytime there's accusations
of dildos and fingering, I feel
I would be really unfortunate if I could.
It's actually in the bulwark bylaws that we have to include Tim on any dildo conversations.
So we were obligated to do it.
All right, well, Tim, thanks a bunch.
For people who endured this and actually watched to the end of this, thank you.
And subscribe to the feed, tell you friends.
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All right, guys, take care.
Thank you.