Bulwark Takes - LIVE: Tim is Getting Bimbofied

Episode Date: April 3, 2026

Tim Miller went LIVE to take on a Trump world that’s starting to crack. Even voices from the Theo Von / Joe Rogan universe are turning on Donald Trump—and in some cases making more sense than the... people in charge.Tim also digs into the fight over figures like Hasan Piker—arguing that Democrats are blowing a major chance to build a broader anti-Trump coalition.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey there, everybody. This is Tim Miller here with the bulwark. I hope you're here for the live stream that I'm going to be doing tonight. It's my third try at one of these. We're trying things a little bit different tonight, not with the wine, actually. That's going to still be the orange. Well, actually, both things are going to be the same as it's been before. You can kind of see on the screen there.
Starting point is 00:00:23 I'll just put it back over here. And you might notice, you know, I'm making some changes. I was inspired by Brian Noam, and I thought that, I don't know, I was kind of interested in the bimboification scene. And this week I've been kind of asking some people about it, Googling incognito mode, just trying to learn a little bit more about bimbofication. I was like, maybe this might be for me. I don't know. What do you guys think? we'll be taking your comments and questions on Substack and YouTube so you can give me your thoughts
Starting point is 00:01:01 whether I should keep bimbofying or not. It does bring back kind of a negative memory, I guess I would say, of high school and try to dress up like a woman as a gag. And then kind of receiving some negative feedback about that and how that might mean I'm a homosexual and getting bullied. So it does bring back a little bit of negative ramifications. So on the other hand, I can kind of see why women. and get into it. I'm not exactly sure what Brian was doing, but anyway,
Starting point is 00:01:31 we'll see how it goes. We're going to be talking about Pam Bondi today and Hassan Piker and we're going to be talking about the wheels coming off of the Trump train altogether and just, like, it is wild, how some of his biggest supporters from the 2024 campaign are now
Starting point is 00:01:47 sounding more like me about what we need to do with Trump than they sound like Democrats on the Hill. I mean, they've like, the Democrats on the Hill been outflanked by some far-right podcasters. So we'll be getting to that, and we'll get into your questions. We'll start with some of your questions, actually. We got some previewed on Substack about Bondi.
Starting point is 00:02:07 When I taped the pod earlier with Susan Glasser, I was not been boifying yet, and we had just learned that Bondi was likely to be fired. So we didn't know the facts yet. So we did not know, for example, that she begged like a dog, which is what the Daily Mail reported. and she begged to keep her job and didn't happen for her, which is unfortunate. Chris Handy asked, will Gates make his triumphant return to the public service? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:02:33 I don't think so. He's looking a little bloated. Nick Guttenson asked over under and Heggseth being the next to go. I'm not sure about that. I'm not sure about whether Heg Seth will be the next to go or not. I don't know what do you think about that. Maybe. I think probably there will be another woman.
Starting point is 00:02:49 He seems to be firing all the women. so probably Tulsi would be next in my opinion. Brian, is Pam Bonnie the worst person to come out of Tampa, or is it Hulk Hogan or Kaylee McAnanee? Oh, boy, between those three, it's a competitive category. I mean, the Hulkster really took a negative turn. I'm Googling right now, famous people from Tampa. Let's do this together.
Starting point is 00:03:12 This is why we have the stream, isn't it? Isn't it, Jared? We'll pull this up over here. Famous people from Tampa. People can watch that. They want to. What do we got here? There are other famous people. Dave, but he says great.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Love that guy. He was a big supporter of our work at Republican voters against Trump. I've got to make this little bigger. A few people don't I. John Sina seems fine. He's on some work with China. I don't love. Tom Cruise resides there. Aaron Andrew's nice.
Starting point is 00:03:40 I don't know anything about Den Chattress and Sarah Paulson. Aaron Carter was there. Dwight Gooden. Doc. He liked to do drugs. Gilbert Arenas. brought a gun into the locker room. Tampa really breaks a certain type, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:03:55 Oh, no, we've had the answer. I am sorry to the questioner, but Dan Blazerian. There's like an actual Nazi. I think we're going to have to go with him. Pam Bondi a close second, and we'll put Kaylee there on the metal stand. Celia, I was curious Tim thoughts on the fact
Starting point is 00:04:13 that it's two women who've been out of so far, given that they're all terrible. I think it's noteworthy. And Susan Gosser was so good on this. talking about just how like women have to look a certain way to even be considered for Trump. They have to sort of bimbo-fi themselves just to even be considered. And then they're the ones that get pushed aside and cash. By no metric could you look at cash and say he's done a better job than Pam Bondi, right?
Starting point is 00:04:41 I mean, like you could maybe say even. I think there's probably some pretty good arguments that he's been worse than Pam Bondi. and so I do think that maybe there's some sexism. There's sexism in the Trump White House? No, no. Kathy Lassen asked, do you think Donnie will nominate Blanche? We're going to talk about that. But before we start going forward, take one last look at the bimbo vacation.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Because I think this is that. I don't like that. Let me take the shoulder down a little bit. Oh, let's give it the full shoulder. Oh, yeah. That's nice. One last look at the bimbofication. I don't think it's for me.
Starting point is 00:05:15 No judgment, though, Brian. Whatever you're into, that's fine. We might talk a little bit more about that in a second. But our guy Jared put together just something to honor the people that have given us so much content over the last year and a half but have now moved on to better pastures. Let's give that a watch. Oh, you're going to keep me on the screen. Have you apologized to President Trump? You sit here and you attack the president.
Starting point is 00:05:49 And I am not going to have it. I'm not going to put up with it. They are talking about Epstein today. The Dow is over 50,000 right now. That's what we should be talking about. So Secretary Nome, at any time during your tenure, as Director of Department of Homeland Security, have you had sexual relations with Corey Lewandowski?
Starting point is 00:06:33 Mr. Chairman, I am shocked that we're going down and peddling tabloid garbage in this committee today. Reclaiming my time. And ma'am, one thing that I would tell you is that he is a special government employee who works for the White House. You must be a very special little boy, but I hear that you're starting to use the big boy toilet. So, congratulations, and you're doing a great job with your poopies. Congratulations. I know your mom is going to be so happy for you, and I want to thank you in advance for being a Donald Trump supporter when you get older.
Starting point is 00:07:10 All the best from your daddy, Papa Dickie. Wasn't that nice? Isn't that nice? What do you think? Pretty good size. Pretty good size. The producer Chris told me to use this side for the front. Something I hadn't considered as somebody doesn't spend a lot of time thinking about Bazingas.
Starting point is 00:07:49 All right. We're back to a normal outfit now. I did wear my pearls for you. We had a question or the one or commenter that wanted me to bring my pearls back on and I got them for you. All right. Amy, I'm doing it. You said your mental health required me to be in the pearls. I got them.
Starting point is 00:08:04 No more bimbophication for me, though. The question was before we went to that in memoriam, which is really nice, just really touching. Actually, I started to kind of get emotional. Kathy asked for the nomination. Maybe Blanche. So here's the thing. So I think it's 210 days, give or take, if that's really wrong, honestly jump in, but where you can be acting attorney general.
Starting point is 00:08:30 And so that takes us past the election. and I just don't think he can risk keeping in an attorney general in an acting role where you have to get a confirmation next year. We talked about this with Susan Glasser. This is the last chance to get someone confirmed that might do his dirty work. So I assume he's going to try to push somebody through quickly. I think it could be Blanche. I was interested in some senators tossed out Mike Lee. I think they're just ready to get rid of Mike Lee.
Starting point is 00:08:59 They're tired of sitting with him in the lunchroom. And so I think that could be a possibility. some discussion of Lee Zeldin out there. That doesn't really ring right to me, but maybe. I don't see how Judge Box of Wine or Alina Hava gets through a confirmation. Those are other people that are on the list. So looking at Blanche, and here we can pull up a little screen share for everybody. He's prepared some things for you guys.
Starting point is 00:09:27 We've got here, this was Blanche at CPAC this past week. was it this week Times a flat circle it was way out to the CPAC here recently and Jared can we pull up the screen here here we go and this is him talking about the work that's been happening at the DOJ to date
Starting point is 00:09:48 let's give that a little watch here the other things that are happening there is not a single man or woman at the Department of Justice who had anything to do with those prosecutions over how many how many have been canned over 200 over 200 either left before we came in because they knew it was coming or were fired or took early retirement they are no longer employed by this department and and when it comes to the the FBI which takes a lot of criticism especially because of what happened over the past several years director Patel has cleaned house there too there isn't a single man or woman with a gun federal agent still in that organization that had anything to do with the prosecution of President
Starting point is 00:10:43 Trump. The other things that are happening, there is not a single... That's that. I'm sorry. I didn't know that they're going to replay it again. Who had anything to do. Grandpa Tim is bimbofying himself and struggling to get this out of the screen. Okay, here we go. Bimbofied. You know, on the bimbofied live stream, there's going to be me being a bimbo a little bit. So it's just going to be part of the deal. Wayne, that's what happens to Todd Blanche in this. Look, you just listen to it there. This dude is shameless, and he's shameless.
Starting point is 00:11:16 He is at a partisan conference on stage with a man who has been credibly accused of sexual assaults against multiple younger men, pretending to be a happy family man. He's sending there on this on stage to a half-empty room, talking about how they fired a bunch of of people who did nothing except for their jobs. They're just career officials, the DOJ and FBI, that were insigned in the investigation against Trump because Trump committed a lot of crimes. They fired all of them. And so there he is bragging about that because he sees that as his job
Starting point is 00:11:51 doing Donald Trump's dirty work because he was Donald Trump's lawyer. And so that to me is the top qualification for the Pan Bondi replacement. I think a mark against him probably in being considered is that like he's part of the Bondi Justice Department. So he's going to have convinced Trump that he would have done better than she did at going after his foes, even though he was there as her lead hatchet man. That might be a tough sell, but what the hell do I know? Blanche also obviously was the one to give the sweetheart deal to Claim Maxwell. So if you're looking for positive news for the Epstein victims, I don't think you're going to get it from him. I want to shoot your questions to us on Substack on YouTube. Towards the end, I'm going to get to a bunch
Starting point is 00:12:34 of them. I'm going to run through some now. And then as I promise, many people on social media and elsewhere, I'm going to give you my definitive take on the Hassan Piker discourse. But let's go through a couple of your comments here first. Sporty Geek-Girl was so excited, she couldn't focus on work. I love that you're live-streaming me at work. Shout out to your boss. And I hope me and the Tatas was as good as you could have possibly imagined.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Sporty Geek Girl also is filled with joy, which I appreciate. A lot of messages from Sporty Geat Girl, which is nice. Nome and Bondi, Lori, Noam and Roddy were horrible at their jobs and as people. Yeah, Heritage Foundation will get back at them. That's true, too. This is an interesting question. Defiant Links. Is this a ploy to keep her from testifying?
Starting point is 00:13:22 I don't know. You saw Congressional Dems out there today in AOC and OEC and oversight. Robert Garcia was saying this, that no, this is not a ploy. This is not going to get her out of testifying. They still want her to testify on Epstein. They're going to bring her to Congress. And I guess she could hide a subpoena and fight it out like Steve Bannon did. But that is going to be an issue for her.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Oh, JVL would be so happy to see this, Roger. JVL is a spirit animal. JVL, you know. JVL, did you vote for JVL on the stupid Webbyes? JVL wants a Webby. He wants a Webby. Why? we don't know. He doesn't know. He's got a lot of love in the home. He's 100 children. Great wife.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Why would you need a Webby? Don't know. Maybe it's just living in New Jersey. If you're in New Jersey that long, you get a little sad and you want additional trophies to go next to your pinball machines. Trump is throwing a merry female members out of his administration like a volcano. Linda McMahon, Puro, and Gabbard. Linda McMahon is a good pick. She's really hidden to the background, huh? speaking about bimbobification there's a lot of bimboification in the WWF Selma asked if this was AI no that was not AI
Starting point is 00:14:43 I just was exploring a different side of myself Sporty geek girl again Caroline leave it as JVL likes to say you're JVL popular in these comments Wayne Trump's minions are like guns it's really hard to figure it do do do no okay I wo Lindsay Halligan
Starting point is 00:15:01 thrown out there as a potential choice. I don't see how she could get through confirmation. We're all going to take a deep breath together. I'm going to take a sip of my orange wine. We're going to do Hassan discourse. Then we're going to get into some fun stuff. That sound okay for everybody? All right. Here we go. So, Hassan Piker. People who do not know who that is. I watch you. Good for you. Whatever. It's a big world out there. If you don't care or know about this fight, this inter-nicine fight the Democratic Party over Israel and Hassan Piker and etc. Joe, we can just pull me up.
Starting point is 00:15:39 We don't need to keep looking at creepy-ass match. I'll pull this back up in a second. People don't care about Piker. You know, this is a nice thing about streaming. You can go grab a beer. You can turn on This Is Us. You can turn on a basketball game. I'll be done with this from about eight to nine minutes.
Starting point is 00:15:55 People don't know Hassan. He's a streamer, which I'm aspiring to be. And he's a leftist. very associated with, you know, like the anti-Israel, Palestine cause, the guy, you know, arguing passionately, you know, about the Gaza, what he would call the Gaza genocide. He's been very popular, kind of in DSA world, online, live in the Twitch streamer life. You know, I mean, does he have as many viewers a night as Maddow?
Starting point is 00:16:29 No, but he's got a big audience. the audience is a lot of people that maybe Democrats could need it's a lot of disaffected Democrats sometimes it's one of my complaints with Assange is that sometimes he focuses his complaints a little too much on the Democrats when given the threat
Starting point is 00:16:42 to the other side but like on balance you know he's also spent a lot of time criticizing Republicans and and I think you have these disaffected group of whether they'd be kind of independence or young people or folks that like think that both parties are bad particularly when it comes to foreign policy
Starting point is 00:16:57 and they tune into Hassan so it's a pretty important kind of demo actually for Democrats to try to recapture. I think Democrats did not do as well as they should have last cycle with voters who really are opposed to foreign wars because Donald Trump lied to them and said that he was opposed to foreign wars. And they also were perceived Kamala to be more hawkish than she was. I had Phil Gordon on this very point, Kamala's national security advisor.
Starting point is 00:17:27 I talked through what her foreign policy would have actually been. and she definitely wouldn't have had us in this stupid war. I think we know that now. And I think even Hassan would grant that. But, you know, there is a group of sort of leftist agitator types that very unhappy at the Democratic Party. He's an avatar frontman kind of for that wing of the party. Okay. So he becomes a flashpoint because this group called the Third Way, which represents kind of the centrist wing of the party, criticized Abdul al-Said.
Starting point is 00:17:58 and he was running for Senate in Michigan against Taylor Stevens and Miller and McMorro. They criticized Abdul for campaigning with Piker. They said the Democrats should shun him. They listed a bunch of offensive and crazy shit Piker said over the years. And he streams like a million hours a day and is a leftist, right? So like he has some extreme and outlandish views that if you and kind of cherry picked the worst ones.
Starting point is 00:18:30 And I kind of went through that list. You know, one of the ones that people come to that I saw Piker walk back recently in an interview with Philip DeFranco was like calling Orthodox Jews imbred. I think that was one of the ones that they point to when they speak to like five of these anti-Semite. But some of the other ones are, you know, a lot of attacks on Israel and, you know, I think some tanky-ish views about China and Russia. So, but really the critique is about Israel.
Starting point is 00:18:58 and the fact that he is anti-Semitic. This is a critique coming from the third way. So they said the Democrats should shun it. Put out a big press release about this. No campaigning, no nothing with the Saan Piger. It was interested in the Grand Platner in Maine actually canceled an event with Piger after that. So it wasn't as if there was not some effect to this pressure.
Starting point is 00:19:17 After that, there's this blog called the Jewish Insider that you would think right now, you know, given all the things happening, in Israel, whether that be in Lebanon or Iran and elsewhere, I mean, they are our partner in this really stupid war. And BB was a big influence on us being involved in this war. You'd think that an organization called Jewish Insider would be like focusing on the inside story of that. They're not doing that. They're posting as far as I can tell a lot about Hassan Piker and, you know, his past comments on his live stream. So Jewish Insider then sends a questionnaire to John Ossoff, the
Starting point is 00:19:56 center from Georgia saying, hey, will you rebuke Hassan on this list of things that he's said that were bad? And John Osaf didn't reply. And then Jewish Insider wrote an article about why John Osaf didn't reply. And it's like, why did John, why were they emailing John Ossup in the first place? Well, it's because Asan Piker said he liked John Osov, who's maybe a sleeper for him for 2028. And it's like, so John Osov, the center for Georgia has to account for the opinions of every person that says that they like him. I don't think that's a meaningful standard that we should be holding politicians too. So anyway, I posted that I thought that the John Ossoff campaign and anybody else running in 2028, if they're sent a questionnaire by some interest group that has a blog,
Starting point is 00:20:41 asking about their thoughts on Asan Piker, they should tell them to eat shit. That is my main thought. I don't think this is very useful internal fight for a Democratic politician to be getting into they should be focusing their fight on Donald Trump. So I want to go deeper on that and like what I think people should do with regards to Piker in a second. I will say this. Just before I go off on the third way and Jewish insider and all these other candidates that are trying to make Piker the flashpoint, I've met Hassan.
Starting point is 00:21:14 We're on a panel together. As a matter of how we can pull up this photo. Yeah, here all the people that hate Hassan always tweet me this photo and say, that I'm like a pal or a terrorist or something, because I happen to be standing next to him on this panel. This is a cropped photo. There are other people next to us. If someone points a camera at me, I smile,
Starting point is 00:21:35 even if I am not bimbified. So Hassan and I are on this panel, it's a crooked media panel. We got invited, John Lovett, my friend John Lovett. And it was kind of a spicy panel, actually. It was just funny. That of people share this as like, we are,
Starting point is 00:21:49 it means that we are all buddies. The panel got most attention. I think the Atlantic wrote a whole article that was the spiciest panel at CrookedCon. Simone Sanders was there. I was arguing with Simone. I was arguing with Hassan. Jess Tarlov was arguing with Asan. Why don't we just play one little clip of me arguing with Assan, so you just can get a sense of the conversation.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Is that true for Qatar, too? Does Qatar have a right to exist only if everybody has equal rights for all religions? Is that true for Qatar? I don't. Or just Israel? No, I don't care. I mean, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:20 No nation states has a right to exist, including. in Qatar. Like I don't know why you're bringing up Qatar, like as though I'm going to be like, oh my God, Qatar. Like, they pay me so much money. I just say, I don't know why that's the only country that doesn't have a right to exist. Because it's an ethno state. All of those countries in that region are in ethnic state. Cutter's an ethno state. Orleans in ethnic state. Jordan's an ethnic state. So I'm okay with criticizing Israel. I'm just saying that's like, so you're okay with all of these other countries being ethno states then and you're not just using that as a deflective mechanism to move the attention away from.
Starting point is 00:22:49 So the heart of my criticism there, as you can see, is just like, I don't, I'm, I have a lot of criticisms of Israel right now. We can get to that. Very many. They grow every day, as a matter of fact. But I can understand people who, you know, particularly Jews who like get their backup and say it feels anti-Semitic if like you only attack Israel because they're an ethnic state and that people don't have equal rights in the country. It's true. everyone should have equal rights in Israel. That's a legit criticism of Israel.
Starting point is 00:23:21 But it's like if you are only going on Israel, Israel, Israel, it's like, well, every country in that region is an ethno state where people don't have equal rights. Like you can't be a gay Christian or, you know, in any of those countries or atheists. You know what I mean? Like you can't go into Saudi Arabia and expect to have equal rights, you know, if you're whatever, Jewish or Buddhist or right there. So that is true of a lot of countries. It's a fair criticism of Israel.
Starting point is 00:23:50 I think that there is a belief sometimes from folks, from Jewish folks I think are sensitive, right, lady, anti-Semitism that Israel gets singled out because there's an anti-Semitic subtext. So that was what we were kind of addressing. My subject of critiques with Qasan, which I shared with him on that stage and off,
Starting point is 00:24:08 we talked for a long time in the green room, is simping for China. I just don't, like China is a repressive authoritarian state that's what we're fighting here. And I think at times he's very, he's much too favorable to China for my taste. I think that, you know, at times there's some playing footsy with anti-Semites in ways that I don't really love. Like some of the arguments, again, I can understand why they make, why they would make feel uncomfortable. For example, he just tweeted earlier this week criticizing the state senator running for Congress in California, Scott Weiner.
Starting point is 00:24:39 And he kind of listed the Wiener's offenses. And one of them was after October 7th, he visited Israel. And I asked Assange, I was like, why is that a problem? Who cares? Like, that feels like anti-Semitism and be like, he visited Israel. And the science point of view is that Israel's kind of like South Africa and we should be boycotting it. Okay. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:58 I mean, again, I think that there are a lot of countries that are really bad. And if we're just focusing on that one, I understand why some people have concerns about that. But I also have a ton of Israel, criticism with Israel, by the way. And Israel continues every day to validate the arguments of their critics. And so that kind of complicates things. well. The most important is we're going to have with the son is that I just I'm not sure fundamentally that he's a small L liberal. We jokingly said when I went on to the what was it called the Jubilee show surrounded and they called me a liberal millennial and people are you a liberal now? And I'm
Starting point is 00:25:34 like yeah, I'm a liberal like a small L liberal. I believe in liberal values. I believe in pluralism. I believe that we need to respect everybody. You know, everyone in this country has a right to the religion they want, the speech they want. We have to live peaceably with people who have views that we think are gross. That's part of being in a liberal society, sort of being in a liberal democracy. The bulwark is here to defend liberal democracy. There's a huge threat to liberal democracy right now from the MAGA right. That is the main threat that the country faces. It's a bunch of authoritarian shitheads on the right that are trying to end our, this experiment, this great experiment of liberal democracy that we have in this country. And I spend all of my days fighting that.
Starting point is 00:26:15 I think that there's some, if you take a peek at the left, I think that there's some liberal stuff being set on the left. I think that the China thing is just one example, but there are many where there's some folks on the left that want kind of a strong leader of their own. I don't want to impute that on Hassan exactly, but some of his arguments would lead me to believe that he's not exactly an enthusiastic defender of liberal democracy. Let's just say. So if we ever get to a point where there's a Hassan-style candidate running for president and and there's more of like a, you know, sent a more traditional liberal candidate running in a Democratic primary. I will be for more of the traditional liberal candidate, right?
Starting point is 00:26:54 Obviously. And we can fight that out. But my main thing about right now about the Sasan discourse is like, none of that's happening right now. No, that's happening right now. The only reason we're talking about Hassan is because other members ostensibly of the anti-Trump coalition have tried to turn him into a litmus test and say that people can't be seen with him. You know, it can't be seen with them. And, like, I find that to be insane for a number of reasons. Number one, I think the timing on that is awful.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Okay. All of our energy right now, if you are for liberal democracy, if you're against Trump, if you think what's going on in this country is bad right now, all of our energy should be laser focused on undermining this regime and bringing in more people who are potentially opponents of the regime and adding them to our numbers, right? There is strengthened numbers, whether that be at the no king's protests, whether that be at the midterms this coming year, whether that be in 2028, like we need as many people as possible to brush back this threat that I believe seriously is an existential threat
Starting point is 00:27:58 to the country. That's me. Okay. And so right now in this moment, when Donald Trump is taking the entire world headlong into an energy crisis, where he's like engaging in a lawless war that he gave a nonsense speech about last. night that it was basically incomprehensible. We don't even know what the objective is. Like when they are killing people in the streets of Minneapolis, like this is not the moment to fucking nitpick
Starting point is 00:28:23 some streamer who also opposes this. It's just not. All right. And on top of that, it's particularly not the moment to nitpick a streamer that reaches an audience of people that the Democrats are struggling with and
Starting point is 00:28:38 that right now is a particularly ripe moment to add them. People that are opposed to this war, people that are upset about Israel's prosecution of the war in Gaza, people that are upset about Israel's influence on our involvement in this war in Iran, people that are upset at the by, mostly Republican, let's be honest, but somewhat bipartisan, like military, industrial complex. It has gotten us into war after war. Like, there are a lot of people out there that are against that.
Starting point is 00:29:10 I'm not to play some videos of some of them. who were for Trump, who are, and they're, and some of those are right-wing people, but some of those are far-left people who got hoodwinked. We can be honest, they got hood-winked by Jill Stein and by a bunch of far-left streamers and a bunch of people that convince them that Kamlo was going to get us into a war when really Trump was. We all saw that clearly. We can pat ourselves in the back, but right now, in this moment, when we're in this war, when people are feeling economic pain, this needs to be the moment to say, come on in.
Starting point is 00:29:43 to everybody, particularly people that are, that are ranging from skeptical to hostile of this war and of actions of the Middle East. This needs a moment for that. And Hassan talks to some of those people. So to pick this moment, a month into the war, to pick this fight, it's crazy. It's fucking crazy. And if you are a centrist, and I have some sympathies to that, obviously, if you're a moderate and you want to pick a fight with the left wing of the Democratic Party, let me tell you there's a lot of potential options there. I mean, John Lovett and I were talking about this this week about the mismanagement of California. They're trying to build a monorail bear. They're not even breaking ground until 2041. You know, we could go down the list.
Starting point is 00:30:26 There are a bunch of things with the American people don't like the Democrats right now. And if you want to fight with the left of the party from the center, again, I wouldn't think it would be the moment to do that. But if you wanted to try to, you know, move the party of the center on something on an issue, there are a bunch of them out there that the public would be on your side of. to pick Israel and Hassan Piker right now as the issue to fight about to advance the interests of the center of the party, all you're doing is undermining the credibility of the center of the party, right? All you're like 90% of the Democrats voters are against this war. And the popularity of this war and of Israel and of Middle Eastern conflicts is going down by the minute within the Democratic coalition.
Starting point is 00:31:06 And so for you to be like, now we as the central. establishment, serious types, want to exile a far leftist from here, because he has some impure thoughts about Israel. It's like, all you're doing is making it more powerful. All you're doing is piss is making people think you're a bigger idiot to pick right now to have this fight. And it is truly, it's like madness.
Starting point is 00:31:37 The entire country is moving the other direction. We can just be honest. It's moving Hassan's direction on the question of Israel. And you're like, we're going to pick a fight with him on that? Right now? When Bebe and Trump are careening the world economy, they got us in this war they don't know how to get out of. They're doing war crimes, shooting, bombing schools, girl schools?
Starting point is 00:32:00 What are you doing? What are you doing? I just, I don't get it. We did this already five years ago where a bunch of liberals were like, you can't go on Joe Rogan. He had some bad opinions. I just like, we can't do this shit again. Okay? You can't do the shit again. This is stupid. If you personally don't like Osama Packer, that's fine. Me and Assan disagree on a bunch of stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:24 We're going to argue about how much stuff over the next coming years, the rest of our life, as long as we're streaming, we'll be arguing about various things. And that's fine. People can follow with me sometimes, him sometimes. Maybe some you'll go with me all the time, him all the time. It does. That's fine. Like, what is the utility of trying to shun him in his audience right now? if you're in the pro-democracy coalition, it's moronic. So, you know, some of the people are involved in that. I talked to something else in the third way,
Starting point is 00:32:47 and they're like, we're opposed to the war. They've posted about that. They've treated that clearly. Like I said, that there is some evidence that, you know, Platner and others have distanced themselves from Piker. And so it's not as if there hasn't been some effect to it. But I just think in the, like, short, medium term, like the trajectory of this, like this is just really, really, really dumb.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Really, really dumb for me. And I explain this here on our. Reddit page. We can pull back up the links. On a red page, you're not on a Reddit page. Get on it. Here's this guy. Or maybe it's a woman, I guess I don't know. Does they say their name? Their Reddit handle is witty.
Starting point is 00:33:22 And they say that they started following Hassan back when they're in high school. And then after college, they become a full Hasanabi head. And he remains that today. But then Trump II started. He wanted to diversify their content and the algorithm started serving him.
Starting point is 00:33:39 other anti-Trump stuff and they fell upon the bulwark and now this person's a big bullwork fan too. And, um, and like that is great. And that guy, I don't know. This person that wrote this probably disagrees with me on various things, but like, that's okay. Maybe I'll make some good points some days and influence them. Maybe some days Hassan will make some good points and influence. That's the point. That's what we're doing. This, this bulwark to Hassan pipeline, Hassan Piper to Bullwark Pipeline, this is what we want people doing. This what we want young people doing. Maybe some of you right now watching me, you didn't know about Hassan before this rant and you'll go the other way. That's okay. That, like, that continuum
Starting point is 00:34:21 from Hassan to us is what we want. That's a broad continuum. That's broader than Kamala's continuum. Really? What I worry about with Hassan is people going to Hassan, how we do this, to Candace pipeline. That's what I worry about. Okay? Um, because they maybe go to Assam because they're upset about what's happening with Israel. And then they see some right wing real anti-Semites like Hassan or Nick Puentes or Tucker. And they're like, oh, I like that point. And then we lose people down the radicalization pipeline. That's what we don't want.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Okay. So we don't want to scare those people out by saying, oh, you're not going to be welcome. We're going to say burn the witch if you want to come to our party. And so instead they start, you know, mainlining Candace. So there's my rant. I want to go on to some other stuff. Obviously, I had a lot to say about that. We'll look at some of your comments and then we'll pull up some of the other things I want to talk about.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Here's Riyahgo. Anybody who says that Associated Hassan is grounds to not vote for the Dem nominee as unsirious as warped priorities and doesn't understand the young voters Dems need, I concur. Do any of you people disagree with that? Let's see. Timmy Dank, a big problem with the sign is a lot of people don't seem to know his true positions with promoting him. He's openly discussed trying to pipeline sock dams into revolutionary politics. This is an interesting point. Hold up. I'm going to finish my wine after that, right? And then I'll get to that. I'm back on that orange wine, which has to come from orange juice.
Starting point is 00:36:02 The, uh, but Zah might have a different pipeline idea. Okay. And this is real, something to contend with, right? What I'm talking about is we kind of want the Hassan to bulwark pipeline. We don't want is the Hassan to Candace pipeline. Tammy Dank here's offering the other one, which is kind of like a Hassan to even more radical leftist, Luigi Mangione style politics, just for short hand. And I do oppose that. I don't believe we need violent revolution in this country. Obviously, I've been very clear on that.
Starting point is 00:36:38 That is a hard, hard, hard red line for me. And I think that Hassan does have some like extreme views, the tanky views, that I just grew with. And I think at some point, you know, we will be in a moment where that's worth arguing over or fighting over. And by the way, maybe me and him will fight over it or destiny and him will fight over it. And that's fucking fine. Do you know why? Because we're streamers. I'm aspiring streamer who have different views.
Starting point is 00:37:08 that we're trying to share with the public and we want people that are watching the streams to engage with us and maybe people take something for us and that would be great so we should do that john ossoff doesn't need to worry about the tankiness why should don ossoff even fucking know everything that hasan says who cares he's got a real job he's a senator so that is like my other point with this is like okay critiquing him in the marketplace of ideas awesome like being a being a strategist or a think tank or a a Democratic Party operative and saying that like this is a useful use of your time. That's what I'm going to know at. This is a tabulator. No, no. Andrew, no. The 2024 election was not fraudulent.
Starting point is 00:37:53 That's wrong. This is why we need people in the pipeline Ted Bullwork. So you're getting true information. There was not, the election was not fraudulent. Do you want me to do this for a second for people? Because everyone's wrong, we get this. And it's like, fine, we're going to do this. The closest states,
Starting point is 00:38:08 in the 2024 election were the swing states. Okay. Those were the closest states. The states for Trump gained the most ground were blue states. Okay. Deep blue states that he didn't have any chance to win. New Jersey, New York, California. You also gained quite a ground in some red states like Texas, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:38:32 If the Russians were trying to steal on the election, why were they trying to rig the vote in Albany? like if they if I just think of me about this logically we have an electoral college if people were trying to steal the election they'd been trying to steal the election in the in the swing states then the swing states were common led of the best so anyway we could go on this deeper if you want but it just isn't it just isn't true i'm sorry um russell west i think the principle of pluralism is the biggest blind spot of the far left you will not find a bigger pluralism fan than me I might as well call this the damn pluralism pod instead of the Bullwark podcast if you want to.
Starting point is 00:39:12 I'm with you. I agree that I don't think Assamese any value in it and I think that that's another big area of disagreement for us. The difference is you can criticize Saudi Arabia, Qatar, South Africa, and Brazil, et cetera, without having millions of dollars jobs. Do you in a primary? This is a fair point, Jesse. Thank you for bringing this up. That's a totally fair point. That there's certain people that are more critical of Israel because of the way that Israel involves itself in our
Starting point is 00:39:35 electoral politics. Now, Qatar, to be fair, Qatar and Saudi Arabia are deeply involved in our politics, but just like by paying off Trump family members and by lobbying in D.C. So it's not as if they aren't involved at all, but they're not doing the campaign stuff that you're seeing out of APEC. And I think that that's a fair deal. One second. I'm not. I'm starting to get, starting to get a little hot out here and trying to get that AC fixed over there. I got riled up.
Starting point is 00:40:12 So the APAC involved, particularly the cycle has been pretty, A, I take it's, I think that they've pretty much done an absolute self-own on their organization and their influence for a long time to come. I just, I don't, I can't recall the last time an interest group has done more harm to their own cause
Starting point is 00:40:30 than APAC has. over the past six months. Just total, whatever you think about them and the mission they're trying to advance, just looking at this from a political strategist hat, unbelievable male practice at air. The idea that they're going to torch their brand
Starting point is 00:40:47 to try to win two house primaries is like to avoid having two more squad members. Like what? No, it's so dumb. But people are rightly mad about it. And I talked to a strategist friend of mine who was talking about one of the races that they are consulting on, Democratic primary.
Starting point is 00:41:04 And they're just basically like, if there's just not enough money in this race, you know, interest in this race for us to win, if APEC comes in and drops $20 million on our head, we're going to lose. So that's real. And so, yeah, I think that that's a legit thing to criticize. Again, like I said, Saudi and Qatar are also involved in our politics. And I do think that sometimes I understand why folks, sometimes, you know, especially Jewish folks, and the anti-Semitism problem is very,
Starting point is 00:41:31 real in this country right now. It is growing. The threats are real. There's a fucking terrorist attack on Temple of Israel in Michigan two weeks ago. Okay? So it's real. All right. Those worries are sometimes when it's like when they see a person in the public eye and it's like the only group they ever, only country that ever criticizes Israel that does raise some eyebrows because there are a lot of bad countries out there. And I think that is the point that I was trying to make there. But you're you're fair. Asan doesn't support moderate Democrats against Republicans. It says stubby. He called Harris a genocide. He kills enthusiasm for our candidates.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Totally fair criticism of him. And I think that you should make that. We should make that. But that is like not again. So what is what how is the mission advanced then by alienating him and his people more? I don't see it. I think co-opting is probably a better method. Don't tell him I said that.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Fair though. he is an enemy of liberalism. Look at this. Some real anti-Assan heads out there. That could be true. Again, I want to make sure people understand what I'm trying, with the point I'm trying to make, which is that whatever your views are of Hassan Piker, the people that listen to Husson Piker show are very important demographic for Democrats to reach.
Starting point is 00:42:59 and on the topic right now that is the most salient topic in the news acting like you think that the biggest issue facing the country is Sasan Piker and not BB and Trump is demonstrates a just a horrific threat assessment analysis and you're going to alienate those people and you're going to come out extremely out of touch of their concerns.
Starting point is 00:43:24 So that said, totally fair point. and like I've ripped to sign again I've ripped to sign several times in the last few weeks my issue is now with criticism of him my issue is with the strategic decision to choose this fight right now and to elevate it and and to do so in a way that hurts democratic candidates who are trying to appeal to the people that Hassan appeals to um here we go Tim you said you'd answer Hassan versus candace owens and be specific what makes them different he didn't vote for Kamala Harris well Candice Owens voted for Kenes Owens voted for Donald Trump so that's the main difference I mean Candice Owens and has been voted for Trump three straight times Candice Owens has no attachment to reality Candice Owens is advancing like explicit
Starting point is 00:44:20 anti-Semitic comments and hate speech against Jews and insulting people for being Jewish constantly like it's happening all that she's doing it all the time Hassan is in touch with what is happening on the planet Earth. So that's a pretty big difference between him and Candice Owens. He talks about issues that actually matter. And regardless what you, whether you agree with him or not, about, you know, issues, whether it be what happened in Gaza, whether it be Cuba, whether it be what's happening in Iran, whether it be, you know, cost of living, rent. he talks about a bunch of things that matter
Starting point is 00:44:59 Candace Owens did like a six-part documentary series on Emmanuel Macron's wife having a dick and is working on a six-point documentary series now about how Charlie Kirk's wife killed him. So that's what's happening on Candace's Owen's feed.
Starting point is 00:45:18 And Hassan, and I mentioned having some bad people on that I disagree with, has on like regular Democrats all the time for them to have a platform. Well, not all the time. He doesn't have that many guests, but he has them on to have a platform
Starting point is 00:45:33 to talk to their guests. So that's my take on the difference between him and Candace. Big Tense, when elections numbers matter. I concur. A bunch of other stuff or any of this. Can we get serious for a second and get bimbolycious? Do you want me get the boobies back out? We'll talk about it.
Starting point is 00:45:54 We'll talk about it. All right, we're going to get back to fun stuff. Am I short? No, I'm not, I'm not short. What makes you think I'm short? I'm six foot and a half, Justin Lee from Substack. I am six foot and a half, right? A half inch.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Not quite six one. If you don't interview Ryan Getty, can you really call yourself a small L liberal? Is that Ryan Getty himself? I think I was Ryan in, where were we? Toronto. That's a good dude. He's got a good YouTube feed.
Starting point is 00:46:26 You guys should go check him out. All right. Let's move on to a couple of other things that I wanted to talk about. Though this is kind of related to what we were just talking about with Hassan. You know who has fucking terrible ideas? You know who has way worse ideas than Hassan? You know who is maybe one of the most pernicious people in all of the internet? A man that retweeted me tonight.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Sneak up. Sneco, if you don't know him, is a former gay porn star, allegedly, who then I think got so triggered by his own sexual interest that he flipped and became a hard-right Muslim radical reactionary, but not like reactionary and like the radical Islam. sense, but reactionary in like the Manosphere, conservative, boys should be boys and girls should be girls and gender norms and traditionalists and all that sort of stuff. He
Starting point is 00:47:39 puts just a lot of poison into the brains of young men who like to watch him, like pretend to be macho and all that. I bumped into a sneako once at Spotify. We were doing a little streamer roundtable. And he was kind of scared to touch me.
Starting point is 00:47:57 I don't know if he's worried he's going to get cooties or something. If I'd turn him gay, if I just shook his hand. But very weird dude. Huge following. What is he out? He's got a million followers on X. Is that right? Yeah. Million.
Starting point is 00:48:14 There he is. I miss Joe Biden, man. That's where we're at right now. Okay? People like fucking sneako miss Joe Biden. All right? Now, I think that the Democrats should be embracing Sneco and co-opting all and taking all his views and carrying the baggage of all the fucking crazy deplorable shit he's done? No, I do not. Is engaging with the young men who are
Starting point is 00:48:43 disaffected or watching the Sneco stream sensible? I think it is. I think there's a lot of fucking young men out there right now that are having trouble getting a job that are struggling financially, that are struggling with their self-esteem, that are looking at this administration and being like, you guys are fucking awful. You guys are totally disconnected from my concerns, from my needs. And you're going off and doing this war in Iran for no reason. Like, we don't even know what you're doing it.
Starting point is 00:49:12 And as a result, my tight budget is already going to be even tighter. I don't have enough money to pay for, you know, taking a girl out on a date, going out with the boys. I can't go have some fucking beers this weekend because I had to pay that much more in gas Like that's what a lot of dudes are feeling right now It's what a lot of women are feeling too But Democrats are doing better with young women
Starting point is 00:49:34 So the challenge is winning over young men And so should the Democrats be like Using this moment to try to engage with Sneco in his audience Or should they be like wagging their finger I mean like don't You can't do anything that that that associate you with somebody who had some bad opinions. Look at Sneko.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Let's watch Sneakow. Look where Sneiko is right now. That's what the kids aren't watching. 80 years old. 80 year old people, if your grandpa is 80 years old, you tell him you should not be able to drive a car anymore. We allow 80-year-old people to have nuclear code. He's losing his mind.
Starting point is 00:50:16 He has dementia. It's worse than Biden. How is he starting a war? and saying it's unfair that they respond with an economic warfare with economic warfare. You bomb the desalination plants. You bomb a school, Tomahawk missiles, even China knows what you did. And they respond by keeping it economical and you find it unfair. What did you think was going to happen?
Starting point is 00:50:43 He really thought that this was just going to be Venezuela too. He's an 80-year-old. I need my sound machine. A dude, I forget your name. I'm sorry, sent me a soundboard, and I forgot it. Stream four, I'm going to have a soundboard. Stream three, bimbelfication. Stream four, soundboard.
Starting point is 00:50:58 It's coming. Every point he made was right. He sounds more sensible than, obviously, the president, who was insane last night. He sounds more sensible than everything people are hearing on Fox. He sounds more sensible than some Democrats talking about this war right now. They're like, oh, you have to. The Ayatollah was bad. It's just fucking blunt.
Starting point is 00:51:18 This is an old guy with dementia, getting us into a, stupid war that's going to hurt us economically. That's sneak out. That's what he, that's what his thoughts are. Let's hear a little bit more from him. I agree. Impeach. Needs to be kicked out of office right now. It's been a complete disaster. He's shown that he's not equipped for this war. He doesn't know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:51:36 He's seen out. He's lying. You know, he's just, he's glazing the media, then changing his mind. He doesn't know if it's a war, if it's a conflict, begging for more money, wanting troops on the ground. if he's not impeached, then we are a failure as a country. And I said this from the beginning and I'm more vindicated every day. This is a perfect example of a war,
Starting point is 00:51:59 maybe the first time in American history where the majority of Americans want us to lose this war. And Trump should be impeached. I agree. I mean, Sneco is now outflanking most Democrats on Capitol Hill. Sneco is a rabid Donald Trump supporter. The last time I saw his content, and he was partying with Nick Plintus and Clavicular and Andrew Tate at some place in Miami. Okay?
Starting point is 00:52:29 And now he is out there being like Trump should just be impeached. We should get rid of them. And Americans are so pissed about this. They want the word up to lose. You can see in the comments there. I mean, so is Sneiko an anti-Semite? Yeah, probably. I haven't seen enough of his ove to know for 100% sure, but he sure seems like an anti-Semite to me.
Starting point is 00:52:49 He smells like an anti-Semite. You know, if it quacks like an anti-Semite. You know, if it quacks like an anti-Semite. anti-Semite it probably is. Yeah. Like, do I want Sneco to be in the United States Senate? I do not. Okay. Would I oppose Sneco? If you were to try to attain public office vigorously, as vigorously as possible. I might even move to the district and campaign against him. But in the meantime, should Democrats and others in the anti-democracy coalition and the pro-democracy coalition be trying to reach his audience and say, hey, guys, you know, we might disagree on this and that,
Starting point is 00:53:25 but, like, he's making some points. If you put us back in charge, we're not going to be doing this stupid shit anymore. Okay? We're going to be caring more about your needs. Yeah, I think so. Let's keep going. Just fucking stop. What do you need?
Starting point is 00:53:39 Here's one other thing. If these idiots, if these idiots understand this shit better than Democratic strategists, then find a new job. Okay. These idiots seem to understand stuff better than all of the Trump apologists, all of the, most of the Republicans in Congress. They seem to be smarter than Hugh Hewitt and Rich Lowry and everybody on Fox. And it's like, you should start to question yourself. Start to question yourself.
Starting point is 00:54:11 If you're analyzing what's happening in the war and you're like, you know, I'm really stretching to try to defend what's happening here to try to rationalize it. and, you know, people of 12 IQ, like Sneko and Theo, are saying things clearly. It should make you reflect a little bit. But here we go. Let's go back to Theo. Topic, what do you need? Well, they're trying to, supposedly,
Starting point is 00:54:33 they're trying to stop the terrorists. That's crazy, though. If you're the fucking terrorist. You don't what I'm saying? Like, if you want to stop them, fucking stand in front of the fucking mirror. And start there. I mean, two months ago, Theo was sucking J.D. Vance's cock.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Okay? And now he's calling him a terrorist. Things can change in this brave new world. All right? These guys, as I've been saying for years now, are not partisan Republicans. This is not Charlie Kirk. All right? All these people are getable. Do they all have some views that are troublesome? They do. But let me tell you, Barack Obama had the votes of a lot of people in the Hassan Piker, Sneco, Theo Vaughan, Joe Rogan, or area. You know, people that had their, that type of use. Far leftists, just kind of stoners, right wing, anti-war, disaffected young men. Like Barack Obama won those types of voters.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Democrats have not won any of those voters since 2016. Trump won them all. It's all crumbling right now. It's all crumbling. And it's like all the those of us on the pro democracy left need to do is just accept the manna from heaven, which is Trump's disastrous decision to go to this war and fuck up everybody's life. Just accept it. Accept the bounty and welcome all the idiots and the conspiracy theorists and the reactionaries and the radicals into the tent. it's like hello
Starting point is 00:56:19 we're doing it sorry we did a echo there I got riled off we got riled off and I'm not going myself that's what we need to do right now Theo sneako Hassan bad views on stuff really dumb bad judgment
Starting point is 00:56:36 I think going forward I'd recommend people go to Hassan to bulwark pipeline the Theo to bulwark pipeline because we had good judgment we could have told you that he's going to fuck everything up okay but we want them to let's right on that little take that luge take that luge from the theo von podcast over to hear to this one that's great that's what we want um who i want to laugh at dan crunch out we're gonna go to your comments first we've been receiving a lot of comments
Starting point is 00:57:06 i got a really good one but it's like how do i find it they starred so many comments the dude okay well i'm not gonna i'm not gonna be able to find it there's too many but 1928D man I appreciate you he's the dude that made the post on Reddit he's watching the stream right now and he says that
Starting point is 00:57:27 that me and Hassan were preaching a very positive message at this moment of time Hassan's rooting for AOC we all like AOC Hassan's voting he podcast that so this point like yeah sure at times he's been a problem but now he's trying to be positive oh there it is
Starting point is 00:57:42 I fucking get it you got to put it on screen if I fucking get it you know all right don't get it twisted what do we got here 80% of democratic voters have more sympathy for Palestine than Israel yeah I'm not getting twisted that's my point this is my point it's like if you want to fight with the far left about their extreme views on various things they're illiberalism the tankies I'm for that I'm for I'm for that let's fight with them I don't know much stuff we disagree on okay I'm not I'm not trying to bring in the new you know, great socialist future.
Starting point is 00:58:19 It's not what this show is about. But you can fight with them on Israel right now. When they've got us into the stupid fucking war, that's going to ruin everybody's life, make the economy worse. And also just fundamentally, just like on the facts, like you can just see the war crimes that have been happening. Yeah, no wonder 80% of the Democratic voters have more sympathy.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Of course they do. So why fight on that? Stupid. I can can I get a message to partners team? I don't know. I had Morris Katz
Starting point is 00:58:52 on the show a couple weeks ago if you guys missed that can go check out that pod. That's pretty good. He's a Marine who knows first he ended a broken military sexual assault reporting
Starting point is 00:58:59 is make that your policy platform stop playing defense. Okay. Morris Katz, you're out there? There's the message from Catherine O. Smith.
Starting point is 00:59:10 What do we got? Fusion voting. I'm going to tell you. I'm okay with fusion voting. She's voting for people is like Let's just pull it up so I get this right I understand it in my We'll come back to
Starting point is 00:59:26 We'll come back to Dan I understand it in my brain But I don't know if I'm going to be able to explain it well enough To not screw it up It's electoral practice alone as two and more political parties To nominate the same candidate enabling voters to support that candidate under different party labels Yeah right so it's like in New York
Starting point is 00:59:42 You're going to run as a working family's party candidate And a Democratic Party candidate I'm fine with that. I don't know if that's the secret sauce that's going to save us. Where are we? We're on Dan. Oh, we're going to get to that in a second. But I don't, I don't hate it. I'm secretly kind of a ranked choice voter voting hater,
Starting point is 01:00:00 but we can get back to that in a second. I'm an independent watch as you and Hassan. I agree and disagree with you both at times. Great. Sweet. Same. Thank you for this. I'm a boomer. Help me make sense of the big picture. This post isn't trying to be clever, just saying thanks.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Hey, I appreciate that. Ludo. You can't be both in ethno state and expect special treatment as the only democracy in the Middle East. That's a fair point. Totally fair point. Caleb, is Jason Calcanas still justifying this shit? Have him back on. I'll get my cigarette already.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Do we want J-Cal back on for people who don't know? He's at the All-In podcast. He's one of these tech bro guys. His co-hosts on the podcast was David Ballsaxx, who ended up being Trump's AI and Cryptozar. This guy, Chimov, Paula Hepatia, who's one of the worst people I've ever encountered. And then Friedberg, who seems like a fine guy. But a little Trumpy for my taste.
Starting point is 01:00:54 But the four of those guys, they have a tech podcast, all in. We kind of turned into a politics podcast, really, because everyone's talking about politics these days. And anyway, I had J-Cal, who's the most reasonable before, on my show, before the election, where he was kind of vacillating between Trump and Kamala. And then we've reconnected, where it was kind of, giving a lukewarm, but more positive than I would. Defense for the Trump first or second term, excuse me.
Starting point is 01:01:21 He tweeted at me yesterday. He seems like he's about off the bus. So this is a good time to check back in with him. I will do that. These, the people didn't get the memo back when Trump wanted to inject bleach. Unfortunately, they did it. I know this is tough for people. This is tough for me.
Starting point is 01:01:37 It's tough for everybody. It's like, how stupid were you people? How stupid were you people? I know. It feels good to say that. But, you know, listen to the Focus Group podcast if you want to understand what's happening with the reels out there. I'm cooking. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:01:59 I'm trying my best. When Corpo Dems hedge on things the right has no problem saying they sound like they're living in a different universe. I want, I look, I want there to be strong fighting mods, baby. Give me some fighting mods. That's what I want. All right. I'm not going full tank. I fucking hate the illiberal left, okay?
Starting point is 01:02:17 But I want people that want to speak clearly about this war, speak clearly about Israel, speak clearly about BB, speak clearly about Trump. But what's happening right now? Speak clearly about MBS and, you know, all of the fucking corrupt oligarchs that are involved in this. That's what people want. And if, like, the only people speak incredibly about the corrupt oligarchs
Starting point is 01:02:37 and this war in Iran are lefties, guess what you're going to get? Lefties. I lived through this in 2010. Okay. you can see where things are going. Here from the Destiny Pipeline, I may, you might be, we might be pipeline and back sometimes soon.
Starting point is 01:02:53 We'll talk about that. I'm a boomer with a lot of opinions. It's sending gratitude to Tim. I just don't know kids who have giant platforms but don't have PhDs. My little brother is a doctorate now. That's okay. Love you, the Bullhawks,
Starting point is 01:03:10 you and the board coates are the voice of reason. only something makes me feel less crazy. I appreciate that. Let's go over to Substack for a second here. Cats lady. Does anyone around Trump realize how down they are with their own voters? This is a great question. There's a leak out today from Susie Wiles,
Starting point is 01:03:29 where she is basically saying she thinks people aren't giving Trump the truth. Internally. And that wouldn't surprise me if that is true. I don't know exactly what they're showing him to make him think things are going well. It's like how many Life Liberty and Levin clips can you show Grandpa before he starts to wonder what they're saying on the other shows? But I don't, I think that there are people around him that realize it, but I don't know that Trump realizes it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Oh, I did see that, Mary. We'll get back to them. All right, let's watch some other clips. We've got some other clips here. got a big kick out of this one. Dan Crenshaw, my old friend from the Peers Morgan show, it's been, it's tough being really right. And if you want to see somebody that is really right, you go back, you watch, just get yourself a joint or a, you know, little bucket ice cream or a glass of wine or whatever you want, and you go back and watch me and Dan Crenshaw fight
Starting point is 01:04:34 on the Peers Morgan show and just see how right I was. So given that, I do like to rub in the wounds. Let's see what, let's see what Dan's to know. I think, especially conservatives, there's nothing they love more than to tear down their own and figure out a reason why, even if they have to make it up. And it's this sort of part of the culture, right? It's like, let's go bino hunting. You know, the Democrats don't have a term like that, but the Republicans do. That's been going on for years and years and years. And it's been, I think the source of a lot of it is to Senator Cruz.
Starting point is 01:05:05 That's about to ask about his. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's been obvious to me for years. years and years that's been obvious to me he just finally pulled his mask off maybe he'll look better what my oh burn laugh that was so mean um are you saying he doesn't anyway uh you laughed i didn't laugh you laughed um i just didn't hold it together there's i'm bored with dan uh i think it's funny that dan believes that ted cruz was scared of him nobody likes dan krenshaw that's why he lost his primary he had no chance running for the
Starting point is 01:05:39 Senate. I hope he runs for something else again because he'll get schlogged. We've got some blind reacts that Anzley and Jared sent me. I've been crushing it today that you guys haven't had to intervene. Have I missed anything? Have I gotten any facts wrong? Do you have any feedback for me, Anzley and Jared? For those who are new to the stream, we do have Anzley and Jerry here to help me out. And Jared made the wonderful in memoriam video. Anzley, you're in the stream.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Have I fucked anything up? You're crushing it. You're doing great. yeah you're cooking 68 minutes of of blah blah blah without one mistake you know what I fucked up today I like to brag
Starting point is 01:06:18 about this fuck up because it shows my barely and the last messages of my failed my youth is I called Nixon's Attorney General George Mitchell who's a senator actually and his attorney general
Starting point is 01:06:33 went to jail was John Mitchell so I got that wrong on MS now today. That was kind of embarrassing. Okay, let's do the blind watch. Jeff Van Drew, this guy was a Democrat. And then he got Botox and went Republican. It's just, I don't know what it is about the botulism, but be careful about that out there if you're a Democrat. Let's watch. The list goes on and on of all the things. Our gas tax automatically increases in New Jersey. And by the way, so do our tolls and our fees automatically increase all of that. Now we're going to have on top of that. And I'm talking to my folks in New Jersey.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Jersey, my state, you better just keep breaking your back and working hard maybe get yet another job. The list goes on and on. Well, that's good. That's a good message. That's a good message to the people of New Jersey. You better just
Starting point is 01:07:23 be breaking your back and get another job because the president's screwing everything up. District. What district does he in? Let's see here. He's in New Jersey two. Let's get the PVI in New Jersey second district. PBI. What are we got here?
Starting point is 01:07:43 Oh, boy. Oh, boy. R plus five. PVI is a partisan voter index. It's kind of an assessment of whether there's more Republicans or Democrats in a district. I think that we're going to be adding Jeff Van Drew to the Enmatorium here in a couple of months. So start to get your stock images on that ready, Jared, because I think we're going to not have to look at that guy's face much longer. What do we got here? Getting a bunch of texts, but is any of this about me? No. We got one correction from the folks in the chat.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Okay, great. One correction. Thank you, chat. What was the correction? Apparently, sketch is the alleged gay porn star, not Sneco, wrong streamer. Sneko did some gay porn. No? Well, don't search that.
Starting point is 01:08:31 We can effort that for you. I can't search it. We don't know what'll show up. Yeah. Okay. Can you effort that? I believe I am pretty sure that Sneko did some gay porn. Not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Is the screen frozen, though? Did you freeze me? Because you're worried I was going to search gay porn. I did not freeze you. All right. Well, do we have James Fish back here? Can I pull that? Oh, that's not going anymore.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Okay, Jared, we're not going to have to get that ready. Maybe, let me reboot this bad boy. Because I do have some Tiger Woods talk. Why don't we set everybody up? We've got what? We've got about 20 minutes left. I have a big personal question that I want to set everybody up for, and we'll give us time to get the feedback in the chat,
Starting point is 01:09:15 and then we'll go back to politics. And the big personal question is this. I should have wished everybody a happy Passover. I guess if you are a Jewish streamer, and you're watching this right now, you're probably not celebrating Passover, but maybe somebody's playing this at a Passover supper somewhere in America, and if so,
Starting point is 01:09:32 Happy Passover. Easter is coming for us, Gentiles here on Sunday. And my daughter, trigger warning right now. If you're streaming this and you have a child under the age of 13 around, mute it for two minutes, okay? Or tell them to go away. I'm not going to be cussing or talking about bimboification.
Starting point is 01:09:56 It's going to be about something much more important than that. My child is eight, okay, second grade. And, you know, it's Easter weekend. We were thinking about having some people over on Saturday. We got some social obligations. And they have this great gay Easter parade in New Orleans in the afternoon on Sunday. So if the weather holds up, you can probably see me out there at the gay Easter parade this weekend. And the question that we were having in the car earlier today, me, my husband is like,
Starting point is 01:10:26 do we just tell her about the Easter money now? Do we just tell her about the Easter money? Like, do we don't have to keep going through this rigmar roll still? I was against it. I wanted, everyone's going to hate me for this. I was an arguer for radical candor at the start. There was just like the whole deal, Santa, tooth fairy, Easter money,
Starting point is 01:10:46 just ripping off the band-aid immediately and just saying, this is a radical candor household. The husband was against that strongly. You know, the joy of childhood, childhood wonder. You won me over on that. Christmas morning is really nice.
Starting point is 01:11:03 The wonder is nice. The magic. That said like the Easter, it's just like, so ridiculous. What is it? Like the bunnies? Why is it hiding plastic? Like the whole story is ridiculous. We have to do it. You know, it's one thing if it was like we had to do two-hour church service. Like I did as a kid. Then it's kind of a reward at the end. We're just going to be hanging out. We're going to go to brunch and go to a parade or people throw beads and candy at us.
Starting point is 01:11:29 So the question is, do we tell her? Do we tell her? Age eight, too early or too late? I should have done it already or just the right age. Is this the right time for the porridge? Please let me know in the comments. If we can get a poll, there we go. There we go. Should I tell the truth about the Easter button? You can vote there right now over on YouTube. Oh, it's tight.
Starting point is 01:11:52 It's tight right now. Get your vote in on whether I should do it. We have a couple more videos I wanted to show. Back, are we live, Jared? We got this bad boy going. Do I need to get bimbo fight again? Okay. This is a good one.
Starting point is 01:12:08 This is a good one. If you haven't seen this yet. you're in for a doozy. This is Tiger Woods. After he crashed his car, got a DUI, walking around there in Florida. Let's listen to him. Can people hear this? Oh, there he is. There's Tiger. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:36 Tim, you need to unmute your screen share audio? Okay. Well, we'll have to figure that out later, Jared. We did pretty good. I did pretty good. Okay. I bimbofied myself on the stream and that means that I was going to you know, bimbofy various things. Do a hymbo. I guess hymbo.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Let's be fair. Let's not be misogynist. I was going to be a hymbo on the stream. I don't know how to turn the thing back up. If you just restart the screen share, it should work. Okay. Meantime, I will just, I'll try to do that. And we can just talk about that
Starting point is 01:13:12 without having gotten seen it. And that is Tiger Woods saying that he talked to President Trump after he got the DUI. So one of two things is happening. Tiger Woods is either just like totally fabricating that or he's imagining it. He's hallucinating it.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Or like him and Trump are just chatting post-D-U-I. Maybe he's asking for a pardon. Let's see if we can get a tour from. more time. Oh yeah, there we go. There we go. We've got to go back here though. Mr. Woods, did you to hang out down here with us, please? All right. You got it. All right. Thank you. Bye. Just keep you down here with us, please. Yeah, I'll just talk to the president.
Starting point is 01:14:19 Oh, I don't know, man. That's kind of like, did you know what my dad is? A couple of my friends tried that one in high school. We were getting into trouble. My friends' dads were even that important, and they tried that. One time we got drunk at Waterworld, is how it was called. It was a water park in suburban Denver. We got a little loose there. A couple of my friends got kicked out of the water park. One of them got arrested, minor in possession.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Not me, because I was not doing anything, officer. And he got arrested for minor in possession of alcohol and started yelling at the cop about doing those. dad as does that as like a real estate developer or something that wasn't even important that is like that for tiger to me i was talking to the president oh wait do we have an answer on some whether sneaker did gay porn ansley yeah um so it appears perhaps uh pull out your your tim is always right uh apparel i guess and not the not the commenters because it appears there are some some grounds for those allegations there are some pictures that i think might get us banned um on a platform but Yeah, he says most of the pictures are fake, but some are real.
Starting point is 01:15:33 Suck on that, commenters. All right. Questioning my knowledge of bisexual streamers? Come on. Come on, guys, this is my area of expertise. All right, correct me on Nixon cabinet members. Sure, I might have a mess on that a little before my time, but I know which streamers dabbled in gay porn, okay?
Starting point is 01:15:52 And mostly it's Michael Knowles and Sneco, as best as I can tell. What else do we have? Um, okay, we'll, we have one more serious thing. Then I'll go through some questions, a little basketball. We'll see what the results were of the Easter bunny poll. And we'll all enjoy the rest of our Passover night together. This, a bunch of you are mad at me on our Reddit. I'm not listening to every podcast Tim is on.
Starting point is 01:16:19 So I don't know if he's ever vocalized us, but is he being serious with this? So how many responses? There are like 147 comments that are almost all like, Fuck you, Tim. And I take feedback. I screw things up sometimes. I'm wrong sometimes. I even, I take seriously the feedback to the people that I think I need to even be even mean or the son than I've been.
Starting point is 01:16:41 I think I've been very clear our differences. In this case, though, this is what is happening. I don't have the tweet in front of this, but I tweeted about Trump needs an exit. Like, he needs to get out of this, like, because the Iran war is such a catastrophe and a debacle and he doesn't. and like every day it goes on, the economic consequences compound exponentially. This is guy Vincent Dowling. I don't know personally,
Starting point is 01:17:07 but he messaged me a bunch on Twitter. And he was saying this, my honest advice to Trump, I say this is someone riddled CDS, this is the never Trumper, except a humiliating deal with Iran, then immediately pull a Venezuela and Cuba, capture the leader,
Starting point is 01:17:19 the latter will distract the ignominy of the former, and the latter is achievable, totally agree. Here, this is me. I said, 20, agree. the totally agree here is this is a hypothetical situation where I'm advising Trump on how to get out of the Iran war and save face. As a person right now, I don't want him to do a coup in Cuba. He's fucking up the one that he is working on now. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:43 I don't want Trump to do anything. Like my honest advice to Trump is do golf, work on the new armrests at Trump Kennedy Center, eat your porridge, you know, sit in front of your stories on. TV, bleat, you know, complain about when the hosts aren't nice enough to you, that's how you should spend the rest of your presidency as far as I'm concerned. Do as little as possible. Count your Melania coin, like that, like do nothing would be my advice to Trump. But in the situation that this guy is offering, we're like trying to say, hey, what would I say to Trump to try to help him save face in Iran and, you know, move on, do the Trump thing. We're like, oh, hey, look over here instead, that is a good idea for like Trump to save face.
Starting point is 01:18:35 Like just, just looking at it through the prism of you're a person who's trying to give Trump advice and how he should stay face. So that was it. It's all I was doing. I'm not, I'm not, a lot of people in there is like, Tim's showing his real neocon. He's ready to storm the beaches of Cuba. Me and JFK. No, I don't, I mean, I would like for freedom for the Cuban people.
Starting point is 01:18:56 I don't I don't I'm not as impressed with how well things are going as Cuba as Fasanaas I'm talking about the man of the hour but like I and I think it would be great if Cuba you know entered the
Starting point is 01:19:11 you know market economy the community of nations we could do trade you know Cuba ends up looking more like what's happening in some of the more dynamic economic zones in Central America and South America the Caribbean. That would be nice, but I don't want it to be Haiti. And I don't want Donald Trump
Starting point is 01:19:33 to be in charge. So that's what I'm at on that. We're going to go back to your questions. We're going to do a little more basketball and then we'll call it. Call it good here. What do we got here in the questions? Let's see. Who do I think is leaking to the Daily Mail? This is a great question. This is a great question. his daily mail has had Brian's boobies Pam Bondi begging like a dog to keep her job
Starting point is 01:20:02 They've had a couple of the ones lately Corey's an interesting Corey's an interesting one He's spurned Killing it Tim Love these lies Thanks for sending yourself In the fray appreciate you
Starting point is 01:20:16 Shana Imagine if we had an attack Iran And Trump could have just Taking credit for the moon launch instead Again Yeah so that is better But let's just be honest That is better advice
Starting point is 01:20:23 I went Vincent and I were saying About Cuba Like just like talk about the moon launch like it's me i'm doing it moon stuff give people moon pie is everybody in the country gets moon pie do something like that that'd be better than war with iran odds of bundy does time i think pretty low unfortunately i think she's
Starting point is 01:20:40 low on the list of possible jail time from the administration um mary if we can create a coalition with some nanosphere guys and others against trump we might be able to persuade them on other issues later that doesn't seem crazy i'm gonna tell you just using theo vann as an example because he's a guy I know the best of this. Theo was like, didn't even think about most of the issues, right?
Starting point is 01:21:05 Like he had a few issues he cares about. He cared about, you know, cost of health care. It's some personal issues related to that. You know, there are various, he is from the South. So there's some cultural elements. But like,
Starting point is 01:21:15 he got sicked into Trump world, like through like fucking MMA and anti-war and Rogan universe and and Maha. And, you know, he cares about that. You know, Maha nonsense. She's like, okay, whatever. That's not as harm.
Starting point is 01:21:28 as a lot of the other stuff terms, I mean, that anti-vax stuff is. Anti-Vac stuff is insane. But like, you know, no pesticides and foods. You know, there are places we could find common ground on that. But anyway, this is what happens to a person. Like, you switch teams, you put on the new team jersey, and all of a sudden, you're like, you know, I do hate trans people, actually. You know what I mean? And so if we can get them to put on the other team jersey and be like, look, MAGA is terrible.
Starting point is 01:21:51 Fuck them. Then they might be more persuadable on other issues. That's actually, that's exactly right, Mary. That's like basic psychology. It's how the human brain works. Russell West, my mom to this day, has not owned up to the Easter Bunny or Santa. Neither is my mother. God love you, mom.
Starting point is 01:22:06 And maybe that is, should I do some self-psychology today, like sitting on the couch? Like, maybe that is why I wanted to just do radical candor with my child, just to, like, do like, I'm not going to do what my mom did. I think that my mom was a great mother. But, you know, there's just as a contrarianness sometimes, and us little brats, mothers out there. God love you. Got to deal with us. What else we got? Clean and sober nation.
Starting point is 01:22:31 Good for you. Don't fuck with the bunny. Okay, fine. Lovely cats. Fun story. My family was Ukrainian Orthodox. When my mom was young, she asked her brother why we don't have an Easter bunny,
Starting point is 01:22:40 and he told her it's because the Russians killed our Easter bunny. Oh, my God. That is so good. I love your brother. Send him my love. That is amazing. Tiger is dating. I had fucking forgot that. Thank you, Deanna. I thought that was so weird. Oh, that all makes
Starting point is 01:23:06 sense now. I'm so locked in on all the micro dramas on the internet these days. It's so rare that one goes by that. I'm like, I don't know what they're talking about, at least in the politics adjacent world. But there was something about how Kai Trump wasn't in the car with Tiger. And I saw a couple of people tweet that and I just, I thought it was an inside joke I was missing. I was like, well, why, what Kai is Don Jr's daughter golfer? And I was like, maybe it's a joke because she golfs and they live in Florida. But that's why, because her mom is dating Tiger. And so obviously, that's the answer.
Starting point is 01:23:40 He did call Trump. This could be the new father-in-law. You know, it's so sad that everything pure about your childhood gets made impure when you get old. I mean, Tiger versus Phil, they both ended up being fucking duchess, magadducious, both of them. close the crank gap, but that means both to the left or are right on varying issues. I agree with that, Hunter. We need some cranks. We need some fucking cranks in our coalition.
Starting point is 01:24:13 Welcome aboard. We need free speech norms back. I agree with that. Wayne says he was telling Trump you won't be in Trump's for some for golf this weekend. That could be. McKay. You don't need to have a signbacker on the pod. You guys kind of trash them.
Starting point is 01:24:29 I think if y'all taught you to, oh, you do need to have them on. like I said I well I trashed when I disagree with them and we just I think we have some fundamental differences about what we want to see the country look like but I do I think we agree on a lot of stuff like I said we hung out and
Starting point is 01:24:44 he was friendly and we argued in private and good cheer and it was good maybe we'll do more um Susan from substack which catam member will be fired next I got cash I got cash I got explained to me the logic of having
Starting point is 01:24:59 Pam Bond and not cash. I mean, they're both in the federal law enforcement. They both have failed to nab any of Trump's political foes. Cash has been more embarrassing, if anything. I feel like time is coming for cash. Pretty hate machine was just here for the bazumbas. Bozumba!
Starting point is 01:25:22 Thank you. I learned early when you stop believing, they stop coming. I'm 45 and Santa still fills my stocking. Good for you. Can we please? Please go out with some iconic booze. Who don't I need to boo though? I'm not feeling very booy right now.
Starting point is 01:25:37 I'm going to give you something else fun to go out with. I'm sorry. I like to make the people happy, but I don't, I don't, I'm kind of enjoying myself tonight. Most likely to people see jail time. I think some in the DHS area, I don't know if it rises as high as Christy and Corey, Holman, Bovino, Christy right now are top of the pops on potential jail time. Trump family members, I wouldn't sleep on them either. Telling a kid the Easter running real may be mean saying there's no resurrection in heaven.
Starting point is 01:26:14 I don't think an eight-year-old needs to consider that. This is interesting. Well, if anybody does a fun one. Post me one more fun one. And then this is a little heavy. But my daughter did ask me about God and heaven the other day. And I told her what I think, which is I don't know what the truth is. And nobody really knows.
Starting point is 01:26:34 and we're all trying to figure out. That's all part of life's journey. And, you know, we have friends and loved ones and family members who, like, really fully believe in it. And we have others that don't. And, you know, this is something that we're all growing and trying to come to greater understanding about. She's like, okay. So anyway, I think I could cancel the Easter money without bringing up the resurrection.
Starting point is 01:26:59 But I appreciate your thought. It's legit thought. Okay. Anything fun? More fun? Make Mr. Tim Tell me. the bunny was a lie. He wanted it.
Starting point is 01:27:08 What makes me feel bad? What was the final vote count? Do we have a final vote count on the bunny? What's the word? Peter from Substack, which comes first? Trump reaching the Bush line or 150 buck crude. I think they might happen simultaneously.
Starting point is 01:27:23 The Bush line is coming. The Bush line is coming and we're trying to go below the bush line, below the water table line. We're trying to get deep, deep, deep. into the pelvic floor. All right, guys, that's that. I'm not going to do basketball tonight. We're going to look at all Nate Silver.
Starting point is 01:27:43 Nate Silver is plummeting right now. We enjoy that. We're happy that Nate Silver is sharing that from us with us, and so I'm not going to do basketball. I do think his idea about how to fix the NBA is stupid. If you guys really want me to do basketball, we can do that next week, or we can have a bonus one of these. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:28:00 Let me know in the comments. What I want to do instead As for the people that came late For the people that hung out, I would like to Leave us with the In-Memorial video one more time I want to watch it one more time Give it to me one more time
Starting point is 01:28:17 Oh wait, before you give it to me one or time We didn't know what the poll result was Jared Ansley Am I telling to loose about the Easter bunny Do we know? We don't know 56% no
Starting point is 01:28:34 one more year to this one more year you get reprieve thank you to the listeners let's watch the Memorial thank you for hanging out with me I appreciate everybody very much I'll be back tomorrow for the podcast
Starting point is 01:28:46 we got Bob Kagan who's cranky I need cranky cranky little Friday for everybody and with that Jared you got it
Starting point is 01:28:59 you ready Before I am? Yep. See everybody. Oh, yeah. Hold on, yeah. Have you apologized to President Trump? You sit here and you attack the president. And I am not going to have it. I'm not going to put up with it. They are talking about Epstein today. The Dow is over 50,000 right now. That's what we should be talking about. So Secretary Noam, at any time during your tenure, as Director of Department of Homeland Security.
Starting point is 01:29:59 Have you had sexual relations with Corey Lewandowski? Mr. Chairman, I am shocked that we're going down and peddling tabloid garbage in this committee today. And, ma'am, one thing that I would tell you is that he is a special government employee who works for the White House. You must be a very special little boy, but I hear that you're starting to use the big boy toilet. So, congratulations, and you're doing a great job with your poop. congratulations. I know your mom is going to be so happy for you and I want to thank you in advance for being a Donald Trump supporter when you get older. All the best from your daddy, Papa Dickie. Thanks everybody.

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