Bulwark Takes - MAGA Influencer Blames Antifa for His Own Alleged Sex Crime | The Trio

Episode Date: July 10, 2026

Sam Stein, Tim Miller and Will Sommer take on the week's weirdest stories: MAGA Manny changes his story on tape—to a puppet. Colorado GOP frontrunner Victor Marx's confessions keep getting darker, and he's still winning. Meghan McCain posts photographic proof that nobody came to her State Fair broadcast. Students for Trump founder Ryan Fournier is arraigned in shackles on new felony charges—with Jeanine Pirro's name on the indictment. Plus: the Candace Owens–Ben Shapiro war over the Kirk trial.This episode is sponsored by The New York Times.Read Will's False Flag newsletter at https://www.thebulwark.com/s/false-flag

Hey, everybody. It's Tim Miller from the Bullwork, and I'm here with the trio, three of us. We are just so excited to be with you today. It's going to be wonderful. That's Will Summer. He has the false flag newsletter that is kind of the sucker, the material, the substance beneath the trio videos. So please go subscribe to that and read. I looked at the Atlantic yesterday. Apparently people don't read anymore. There's no reading is over. And so fight against that. You know, be a salmon. swimming upstream and read at the bullock.com. We also have Sam Stein as the managing editor. Today's trio video is going to be kind of a, just sort of a highlight reel. We're going to try to put a bow on a lot of stories that you've been hearing about. The masturbating Magamani, for one.

Candice Owens crash out. The Colorado Republican gubernatorial nominee who said that he did exorcisms, he has much more interesting past that we found out and many of your other favorite characters. So I'm excited. Sam, you don't look that excited. Well, I thought your send-up for Will was a lot better than how you describe me. Will's the sucker.

He provides the foundation for everything we do. And SimSign, the managing editor. Also, I think you should be transparent with our audience here. We're doing this. This is take two. Because Will's internet was an absolute disaster yesterday. in this the year of our Lord 2026 will does not have a functioning mode of met his home and we tried this already and so if the jokes land a little bit differently it's because of will and it's going to be great and it might i think will do you think it's possible that you're

that's kind of like an attack coming on your internet i thought about yes yes yes i think i might be a d d o s attack from from possibly the trump administration But you know, you know, tech-wise, I will note, you know, about a month or two ago, one of my paintings fell down and my wife finally got sick of it being down and put it back up. So now the whole studio is back in action. You know, maybe the issue here will is that Magamani is taking off here, using your Wi-Fi to download too much porn. And your speed is a little bit slow.

You know, I am near the mall, so he might have found it convenient. Okay. Well, let's go to Magamani. For people who don't remember, he was the last one. one playing pocketpool on the national mall while watching a poorly attended acrobatics performance at the Great American State Fair.

Then his arrest was live streamed. He has re-emerged. He's posted bail. He's out among the rest of us. He could be near your children. So keep an eye out. Near Will's house. And he's done an interview

that I don't think I can describe. So we're just going to I'm just going to show you. Men of your age, they grab the crop sometimes. They have to shift the goodies. They have to shift the goodies for increased comfort. Did you do any of that many? Did you grab the twigginberries at any time during this event?

Not one time at the entire event. Did I go anywhere past my pockets to get something out of them? All right. Yeah, because you were live streaming and they were talking about. Oh, wait a minute. Never mind. I did twice when I went to the Spada Pot. Sir, this is America.

We call it a porta-potty. Port-a-putt, a man, a man dressed in such an American fashion should know the proper terms of things. Look at that tongue out at the end. Will, what is happening there? Who is the interviewer? So this is a guy named Edgar the puppet. This is someone, it truly alarms me to learn that this guy has a big audience. I mean, he has like 190,000 followers.

He's like a conservative puppet. This is like a Newsmax triumph, the insult comet dog. Well, yeah, and, you know, the thing to note here is you might think that this kind of, kind of comes off like a triumph routine, but he's on Manny's side. He like supports him. And so Manny said, you know, I, you know, I'm out of jail. I've avoided very like, I've avoided violating my release conditions by not quite getting back on the mall.

And now I'm giving an exclusive interview to a puppet. I'm not a sicko. I don't know why he didn't come to the Bullwark podcast. I was available. You know, the Bullwark podcast is, as Moor Parkness has been a stop for people who've been in some controversies before. Come on. Had an interview with me.

I'm happy to do it. I can offer some emotional support while also being tough but fair and stern. I've got that ability, but instead you went to end. I thought the puppet was pretty tough there. Did you touch the twiggin' berries? The other thing is if you listen, now because this is the second time we've listened to this again, because Will's internet crashed. Um, if you realize it's like professional actors, like professional performers, like there are many, many takes. Like, you know what I mean? Like when you're watching Dutton Ranch or something, they don't do, they don't do a thing before the show starts where they're like, just so you know, this is the knife take. So the actors might not be doing as good as they would have otherwise. This is a pretty standard thing. This is what separates us from other publications. Our transparency towards the viewers and the readers. I want them to know.

I'm famous for just getting it in one take. And my reputation is being solid here. If you notice the video back to the actual content here, I picked it up. There's this weird sort of techno song playing or like clubby song playing in the background that gives it a like a really truly uncomfortable vibe. It's like it's just kind of there in the background while they're talking about him, this dude in a porta potty touching himself.

I didn't notice that. So let's look at clip two. Are they right? Are they telling the truth? Did you stretch your bacon even absentmindedly in the presence of such aerialist lovelies? Of course, not. And their bitch boyfriend! You saw it twice, maybe rummaging between two things, maybe two.

Six, come on. Yeah. Can you give us a quick summary of your defense? What were the problems with witnesses in a nutshell? Shoddy at best, hearsay. Did you see this? Maybe kind of sort of. So it's a lot of hearsay.

And you believe forthcoming details in your next court appearance will show that properly. Is that correct? Absolutely. I have not spoken about them in public and I will not until the next court take. You're talking about it now. Even though you're probably something thanks to my embarrassment and it's probably even worse now, you're talking to the fucking Muppet. You know, it. You're not embarrassed?

It does not embarrass me. You cannot embarrass me. The tongue again. The puppet's kind of not on here. his side, I guess. You know, I said he was, but like he's kind of like he's being like, it seems like your story's changing a little. Oh, you touch yourself a couple times. And he's kind of slapping him around too. Yeah, a couple things I noticed there. When he went to do, to put the hand in the pocket to kind of show what it would look like if he were to masturbate

through the side of his pocket. He seemed very comfortable with that motion. A man who's done it many times before. It was very natural. I think it would take me a few tries to figure out the right angle, et cetera. Okay, we have two more clips. Do we want to deal with two more clips here? I feel like I'm a little

bit manned out. But you are. How about one more? We're going to step through. The first we're going to skip. He was asked if you want to apologize to President Trump for sullying his reputation. The answer to that was no. And then we also he also asked if this was

setup. Is it just a misunderstanding? Who will you set up? I've seen Antifa do crazier things than that. So I'm not saying I was set up, but I would not say that a phone call maybe was made to somebody do that. They never know with them. How would that work? The phone call. The phone call would be from Antifa HQ to the park police? Do we think that Antifa has infiltrated the National Mall Park Police? This might be, this is actually a pretty important job for Marco Rubio and Todd Blanche and Cash Patel. They've been very concerned about Antifa and cracking down to think that they might have someone

on the inside. I think the, I think the conspiracy goes even deeper. Oh, really? I think what he's suggesting is that Antifa infiltrated Cirque mechanics and tempted him. And who had the Cs McEnix again? Is that like the French Legionaire? No, this is the performers that he was watching. Yeah, these are the performers he was watching on stage when he was touching himself from a distance.

And I think what he's saying is they infiltrated the CERC. And they were just, they're just too tempting. Did the CERT go back to the Great American State Fair after this, Will? Oh, they've been there. They kept going. As far as I know, I mean, I think they've been there the whole time. Well, after that trauma. They didn't let Manny stop them.

I mean, they were juggling in front of, you know, several people at one time. Did we let the British stop us after a few setbacks in 1774? No, this is what you do on the Great American State Fair. Man, he was also juggling the muskets. Okay. Terrible. We're going to move on to the Great American State Fair is still happening. I don't know if you're aware of that.

That's crazy. Thursday, July the 9th. So if you're watching this, then you're in the District of Columbia, looking for something to do still happening state fair what will do you have it sense for what why and what's going on down there this was a crazy idea i mean you know the idea to not just end it after july fourth after all the tourists came to town all the fireworks went off um that was like the one day it was actually packed and so to keep it going for another week was really strange i looked up i was curious who made the kind of the undercard here who's like filling the slots afterwards and i'll tell you

what, the only agenda they have posted is from July 2nd. So again, about a week ago. You know, so it's not the best run fair, I guess. So we can't even find out really who the people are. You got to just go in person. You're in D.C. Will, shouldn't you be there to close the down, close down the festivities? I got to get down there.

I mean, I'll be treated like a king. I'll be the one guy there. Wait, so I just to be clear, you can't find out what's going to happen on the mall today. It's impossible. As far as I can tell, it's impossible to find out. I checked on the 8th and they said, here's the agenda for the second. And that's it. It's probably because you don't want to know what is happening.

Here is one thing happening on the main stage that we learned from Megan McCain's Twitter feed. She was very excited about this. Let's go ahead and put that up. And there it is. That is a live, well, not really. That is a live streamed performance of Megan McCain's new podcast on the two-way app, which is kind of an interesting segue in its own right since the two way app is run by Mark Alperin, who knows his way around to public masturbation.

And the Megan McCain show didn't seem to have a big crowd there. Can we let's go zoom in a little bit? What do you guys see in there? I see some chairs. Yeah, one or two chairs. She posted this herself. So cool. really good. What an honor. I was at the Great American State Fair. I didn't go in person. You know, I didn't leave my

obnoxious husband. I mean, if I was, Megan, I'd be like trying to do anything possible to go out of the house. But let's either here or there. And she decides that she's just going to appear via screen and be be beamed in to the Great American State Fair. Two people I don't recognize. maybe they're minor figures in the two-way app universe and there it is no one there why would she post this like you would think that she could crop you realize on the little cell phone if you take a picture you can there's a little cropping button you know you don't have to be a professional photographer anymore to you know not show off that nobody is watching you it's pretty bleak it's just pretty bleak all around massive screens and no what literally no one there that i can't i'm just

looking, I don't see a single human soul in this picture. Sam, why didn't the trio get a spot? I mean, I think that if the two-way app... I would have done it. I honestly would have done it. If they had asked us to come to... I mean, obviously, we wouldn't have gotten any audience, but no one else's. Maybe actually we would have gotten some audience.

I think if we had gone there and we'd advertise that we were going to the mall, we could have gotten a pretty good crowd. I mean, I would have liked to have gone. And I think that we really could have drawn a much bigger crowd. I think that we could have challenged the administration and the Great American State Fair's commitment to the First Amendment and to free speech to see if they would have allowed us to speak on matters of state. I mean, I would have avoided Manny, but other than that, I think I would have been fine. He's banned. He's banned from the premises.

Don't worry about it. Didn't he keep showing up from a distance? Yeah, from like across the street. Yeah. Just have to be there to witness. this Megan McCain broadcast. Imagine just the energy and the intensity if people knew the trio was going to be there.

They didn't know who we were going to be talking about. There's this huge buildup. They're waiting for us on the stage. The acrobats, the Cirque Magnifici is over here. Maybe masturbating Miami will come out. Out onto the stage comes Cash's girlfriend. And she does the inaugural rendition of the soon forthcoming trio theme song.

Yes. I mean, think about the buildup. Where were you on that, Sam? You're the managing editor of that site. I feel bad now. That would have been great. I didn't know who to talk to the book. I didn't know they were booking random YouTube shows, I guess.

I mean, it's just crazy the Megan McCain thing. It's literally like, it's like if a tree falls in the forest, does anyone hear it? They could have set a laptop up in a closet there and played it. Like, no one saw it. I'm sorry. It's just beaming onto the mall with like no one there. Accuracy is important to the bulwarks.

So I just want to say when I said that the head of the two-way app knows a little bit about public masturbation. It depends on what you mean by the word public. According to the Guardian, allegedly he was masturbating in front of colleagues and pressing his erect penis against junior employees. So you can kind of quibble over the word public. on that front. This segment is sponsored by the New York Times. Can't believe I'm saying it. Love the New York Times.

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to any of the other topics? Do you have any erect penis stories? He's got a lot of weird ones. Do we have to have a penal element in every story? Is that like? I believe so. Okay, fine. Fair enough. I believe we do. Well, Victor Marx is he hates, he famously hates sickos to the extent that maybe he's

making up some of these stories. Okay. Victor Marx, people don't remember. He was one of the candidates for the Republican nomination for governor in Colorado. A lot of, a lot of discussion, a lot of chatter about some of maybe less than ideal Democratic nominees or nominee in particular. Marx continues to kind of fly under the radar, unclear why. He now holds a very narrow lead over Barb Kirkmeyer to be the Republican nominee for

governor there. He's got about 40% of the vote and she's got 39.5. So it's tight. It's tight as a tick, they might say, but the Republicans in Colorado, they look at it and they're just like normal Christian lady 39% maniac who claims that he has a long past of murder and exorcism 40%. Got to go for him. Got to go for the real MAGA. Got to go for the authentic id of the MAGA movement. So Victor is in. We will had discussed, you know, his exorcisms the last time he was on. But boy, his rap sheet's a lot longer than

that. Do you want to give us a lead-in, or should we just go to the videotape? Let's just go to the tape. I mean, there's so much to discuss. And my son and daughter were playing little kids, little toddlers, and then they got into an argument. And I guess my son pushed my daughter and, I don't know if she hit her head or whatever, but she starts screaming. And I was just close enough to reach him. And I reacted so fast and so disproportionate that I was just disproportionate. That I was just close enough to reach him. And I was just close enough. that I snatched him up and threw him across the room. Oh.

And I was aiming him for the bed, and he, thank the Lord, he hit the bed. He bounced on it and kind of hit the wall and settled in, and his eyes got that big, and he started crying. And I never forget, I went, what was that? I mean, I couldn't believe it. Well, that's interesting. A little, some slight domestic violence there, self-professed. They don't call him the dangerous gentleman for nothing. Is that what they call Victor Marks?

That's what he his tagline is. He just openly copped to throwing his son across the room in like a podcast. Like, what the fuck? That's the first time I've heard this. That's insane. Well, Sam, I think that's kind of small potatoes. So let's continue.

Okay. So I went to the office. I was in his office before him. His nursing psychiatrist's office. let me in. When he came in, he was kind of shocked. He was like, oh, you're here already. He said, you told me to. Right. And let's work this out. So he sits down and the way the office was situated, I'm actually

sitting by the door. And he goes, he grabs this little clipboard and he goes, well, how do you feel this morning? That's what, Doctor. How do you feel? He goes, what do you mean? I said, how does it feel being in a small, quartered room with a man that can kill you? kill you. Oh. He stopped.

I have your attention now, huh? Yeah. He said to you. And he looked at the phone. I said you would never be able to make a call. And he looked at the door. I said, that ain't going to happen. And then he started shaking and sweating.

His breathing was labored. I could, his eyes, I saw it all. Goodness. And he goes, do you feel like? Do you feel like killing me? I said, no. I just want to see how you responded of being uncomfortable in your time of need. I think he failed that psychiatry exam.

Yeah. He goes on to talk about how he thinks the psychiatrist might have pissed his pants. He also, we should say, a very long clip. This goes on for quite a while. Apparently this psychiatrist's meeting was happening about midnight. What the fuck? I don't, I mean, I'm a therapy guy. I've had some therapists that have been very responsive to my needs.

Midnight is a bizarre thing. So maybe. This is like some like mind hunter shit here, right? Like, this guy's psychotic. And you don't look at that guy and say, governor of Colorado. I don't. I personally do not. I don't want that guy being my governor.

He'd be like, he'd like threaten to like nuke his. state just to see what the reaction is like is that what are we talking about here this man does not seem stable quick things here he's talking to a guy named maga hulk so like this is sort of like the beefy boys the tough guys meet up here and it's also worth noting in terms of the the psychiatrist whether he was going to make it out of that room alive um victor marks is a practitioner of kajun karate a martial arts discipline invented by his father the maga hulk doesn't seem to be like impressed that much goodness. It says goodness a couple of times.

It's kind of like a drunk guy at a bar telling you a story. He's like, wow, that's crazy. What do we know about Cajun Karate? Well, you know, it sounds impressive until you find out his dad invented it. And I think he's probably the only practitioner of it. But maybe it's something you might pick up down in New Orleans, Tim. Yeah, I wish I'd known about this when I was down in the bayou a couple weeks ago for Acadiana Pride. Unfortunately, I didn't get to ask around about that.

He also, Victor has will, I guess he bragged that at age seven he murdered someone. He murdered. Is that right? His stepfather made him murder someone, supposedly. And, you know, when he was seven. Well, when he was seven, yeah, exactly. He murdered someone. Yeah, Victor, seven-year-old Victor was coerced to murder someone according to him.

How? Do we know how? Sorry to interrupt all the time, but like this is. I'm sorry. Right. I don't think we know when he's been, and I think partially that's because when he's been pressed on details, he has said sort of like, I don't like to talk about, you know, my murdering elementary school days. And then he's, because he kind of styles himself as like, as we saw, like a guy who, you know, is sort of a man of mystery, a murderer, perhaps. And when he's asked about it, they've said, you know, how many other people have you murdered? And he's like, oh, my goodness. You know, you can't ask me about, you know, my body count. I also say that about my body counts in different context. One more. Victor, I guess, but you can take this either way with Victor.

The Republicans have, I think, maybe a bit of a problem. What gave it away? No, I'm just going to say with the cover-up that they've been doing with the Epstein pedophile ring. And, you know, they've kind of a brand issue there being seen as a pedophile cover-up party. Victor Marx could be somebody that could put forward to demonstrate that the party has a different posture towards pedos

than the one that they're starting to, you know, the reputation they've been burnishing recently. Let's play what Victor had said about what he'd like to do to a pedophile. My guy said, hey, go ahead and give me 15 minutes with them. And normally our access would be granted. But for that day,

for some special reason, all powers it be because they ran me and they're like, no. I said, you know, yeah, give them the special tax money. Given that, and then I was like, I just need five minutes.

And to be quite transparent, you know, I was going to cut off a couple of his fingers, and I know that may sound harsh to some people. But if you saw what he did with this, I'll lopping a couple of fingers off. What would not, is not a, big deal but it'd be a mark and reminder for everyone who saw him even while he was in so the the chief of police was like we know him he may kill him I was tell him I'm not gonna kill him

I'm not I'm not here's the last target for Victor marks being governor Colorado famously people like to get really high in Colorado you know it's a very big marijuana state it's a peaceful state and I think it would be just kind of funny for to like think about the people kind of sitting around hitting the bong you know kicking the hacky sack and it's like I'm the governor of Colorado I'm going to cut off the fingers people are like what what just to be clear about this I'm trying to trying to process all this stuff but um he wanted to kill his psychiatrist but wouldn't go that far with the pedophile to cut off a couple fingers. He's just going to stick with the fingers for the pedophile.

I guess I'm shocked that 200,000 or so people voted for this man. Like, did this not come up at all in the primary? Did they not bring these? I mean, there's been a lot of media coverage. I mean, Kyle Clark in Colorado was, I think, did a great job among others. You know, so it has come up and people still are like, yeah, that's my guy. You? I don't get. I don't know. This is what the Colorado Republican primary voters are looking for. Okay. Soon. I don't want to you have a problem with that? What you like pedos?

You're pro petto? I can't even engage this shit. 206,000 votes, 330. Kind of just sort of looking at the counties here. I will say Marx's strength kind of in southern Colorado, down with the border of New Mexico and Arizona and the Four Corners territory. I mean, you're getting down there, I think, some real. there's a tombstone vibe happening still. So if he becomes the nominee,

which it looks like he's got a good chance. Yeah, he's up in 2000 votes. Yeah, they haven't called it yet. Which, by the way, kind of interesting that no one's complaining about that. Why aren't they calling that, right? You know, it's another story. Where's Spencer when you need him? Yeah, we're Spencer.

If he becomes a nominee, like, what do you put, like, there should be some betting on on whether he kills someone during the course of the general election campaign. I mean, it's going to be high. I wouldn't put money on it, but it's got to be like 20 to 1, 30 to 1. During the debate. Or during the debate, like the moderator, he just threatens to kill. How about this?

Threatens to kill the moderator during the debate. I would put that at 25 to 1. Decent odds. What a country. Yeah. That poor father. Just a normal Wall Street Journal Republican wants tax cuts. And he's just like, well, the Republicans give me somebody to fucking vote for.

keeps they keep making him vote for the socialists. Sorry, Dad. Victor Marx is your choice? You'll have socialism or you'll have an exorcist, Mr. Mark. Or you'll die. Your fingers will be cut off. Good luck.

Democracy in action. All right, one quick update on our guy, Ryan Fornier, for you don't remember. He was the head of students for Trump. He and his roommate slash bestie had somehow acquired a secret service badge. They were going around town, Washington, D.C., where his roommate was pretending to be Ryan Fornier's Secret Service protection, including in places such as strip club, where they go into the back room and take out the badge and demand a lap dance.

Don't know if that works, really. But there's been some updates with what's happening with Ryan. Yeah, so this might seem like a Groundhog Day situation, because I feel like every time I talk to Tim, oh, Ryan's been arrested, he has new charges. But these are real. These are new charges, folks. because they were separate from everything we've talked about.

So on Tuesday, I went to the courthouse. Ryan was arraigned on new charges, including at least one felony. We've got two assaults, two obstructions, contempt of court, threatening to injure or kidnap. Basically, this is supposedly related to the time he allegedly beat up his girlfriend. And now, this is a new one, threatened to assault or kidnap a right-wing media influencer. And both of those women, as well as the girlfriend he allegedly pistol-wipped three years ago were in the courtroom. And what was striking to me was that he was marched out. I mean, this is a guy. He's in jail now. This guy has fallen so far. They brought him in from holding.

All the prisoners were yelling. It sounded like they were yelling at him. And then he's, he's in an orange jumpsuit. It's kind of like the Air Force one scene where they're taking out the. Yeah, he's, he's Nicholas Cage. And so they're, Steve Bouchemy. No, wrong movie. Oh, we're talking about Conair. We're talking about the kind of Russian dissident that gets taken out of the prison. Yes, they're cheering. When Harrison Ford is on the plane and it's like, they're singing the fake Russian dissident song. They seemed mad.

They seemed mad. So he's brought in, you know, he's shackled. It was pretty crazy. So the kidnap, I'd like to hear a little bit more about the alleged kidnapping. Yeah, you know, I would too. Right now they haven't released a lot of details. I mean, it really is just the indictment.

And so it's, unclear what happened. And now keep in mind, this is separate from whatever happens with the Secret Service thing, the cocaine misdemeanor possession, the gun investigation that prompted police to search his home in the first place. So let's just say, I don't think Ryan Fornier is going to be back at old Scarlet Oak or the Ned anytime soon. Hmm. And a pardon could be in his future. I'm a little unclear on whether Trump can pardon state DC charges. Is this, is this, uh, Janine Piroz, that's involved in this?

This is what's striking, too, is that, yeah, I mean, Janine Piro's name is on this indictment. Whoa. You know, this is, you know, someone I'm sure he's probably run into once or twice in the past. But, you know, this is like the rare Trump world person that they are just throwing the book at. Think about how much of a fucking dirtbag you have to be to be the founder of students for Trump and have Janine Piro indict you. I mean, they had to have looked at every possible path.

before getting to this. And it's just like, bro, I mean, you fucking pistol-wit one girlfriend, you allegedly some other domestic violence type situation with another girl. You're pretending to be a Secret Service agent. I mean, you know. He's had a lot of, I mean, it's not just, it's like repeated infractions, right? He keeps doing this. At any point, he could have probably been disciplined a little harsher.

Or maybe sought help. maybe the Victor Marxist psychiatrist could have other media members there I feel like this has gotten a little short shrift I think so I feel like the Secret Service story on its own is just so good um but basically no as far as I could tell there there was no one there I mean I think his is maybe his dad was there and kind of glowering in a suit um should we go live from the from the courthouse you know they don't let me film in the court no I'm saying outside the courthouse you run outside with the latest yeah um the you know it it's you know to your point about the administration finally taking action here. I mean, I think it's striking that it seems like the Secret Service case was kind of on ice for a couple months until they were allegedly like, we are bringing guns to the UFC event. And then they said, okay, I think we might have to step in here. Hmm. Okay. Well, there's been a lot of interest in a different court case, which is out of the killer of Charlie Kirk, Tyler Robinson. There remain kind of various threads of conspiracies being pushed around

all of this. I was I was watching a clip reel from this MAGA comedian type, JPC or so you call him America First comedian, maybe more than MAGA. And he has very strong thoughts about Israel, Sam. And the, you know, he's kind of, they're doing this thing where they analyze, like, they take tiny clips from, I guess, the preliminary hearing and the trial here to try to like make it seem like. strange things are afoot. I guess like one of the cops, body cameras went down, you know, just like normal human error type stuff. But that has not stopped kind of like that part of the ecosystem from, I guess I'm now devolving into coverage of this trial like OJ style, where there's like one side that's like, no, this is Fior Robinson killed him. And if you love Charlie and care about Charlie, you should just respect.

the facts and then the other side that does, you know, what the MAGA Media does and manipulates things to create conspiracies. What are you seeing in that world, Will? Yeah, I mean, as you said, I mean, this is a big moment for this kind of right-wing civil war over the Charlie Kirk assassination. On one hand, you have Turning Point USA, Ben Shapiro, people like that who are saying, look, here are the cops, here are maybe the FBI agents saying, you know, this, here's the, here's the footage, here's all the evidence. Tyler Robinson was talking to TPSA people before the event to maybe a established that Charlie Kirk was going to be there.

And they're expecting that this is going to destroy the conspiracy theories. Well, not these days because instead you have this other side who's saying, well, why? Who's this guy on the security footage? He doesn't look like Tyler Robinson. They're kind of picking it over. But this is definitely kind of inflamed things. And Candace, a lot of threats back and forth between Candace and Ben Shapiro. What do we see in there?

Yeah, I mean, this is a classic thing where these people love digging up old Charlie Kirk text messages. And so the people on the TPSA side have text messages where Charlie's saying, Candace is crazy. Like, you know, she's out of control. I'm just trying to keep her from getting mad at us. And then on her side, she's saying things like, if I am murdered, look into Ben Shapiro and the Daily Wireless connections to Israel. Hmm. Okay. Well, that's something to consider. Sam, do you have any thoughts on that? No, nothing surprises me anymore. These people are lunatics. I fear that this trial is just not, is going to actually inflame things. I know that Erica Kirk now wants all the evidence out there, and rightfully so, because

she's like, look, I want to just make sure no one thinks that we're suppressing or anything's being suppressed. We can all see what happened. This is the only way to make sure that the conspiracy theorists shut up. And the idea that they would ever be persuaded by actual evidence is so naive. They'll just concoct conspiracy theories to justify the prior conspiracies. theories as we know. Well, you would say that because you're not a member of the Candace Intelligence Agency. I thought I can say because I'm Jewish, but yeah. Oh, yeah, and because you're Jewish.

Candace does have a lot of interesting merch. She has a mug that she has so people can check out. Okay, everybody, it's a weird world out there and Will Summer is there to monitor it. And me and Sam are just trying to kind of keep our hands on the rope. I appreciate you guys very much. Subscribe to the feed. Subscribe to the Bull. Some of these fuckers that we're talking about have more YouTube subscribers than us. So you may have to the end of this video and you've not subscribed to the Borg YouTube page. Subscribe right now. Or if you already subscribe to the puppet beat us.

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