Bulwark Takes - MAGA Right is Consumed by Conspiracy Theories About Lindsey Graham's Death | MAGA Mondays

Episode Date: July 13, 2026

Sam Stein and Will Sommer take on the conspiracy theories surrounding Lindsey Graham’s death and Mitch McConnell’s hospital “proof of life” photo, Jared and Ivanka Kushner’s scandal-plagued Albanian excursion, Libs of TikTok embedding with ICE, and the latest drama from the online looksmaxxers.Read Will's False Flag newsletter: https://www.thebulwark.com/s/false-flag

Hey, everyone. It's me, Sam Stein, managing out of the book here with Will Summer. Apologies for coming two minutes late. We like to be punctual, but we just had a lot to work through this morning. The conspiracy theorists are going wild. We have the death of Lindsay Graham, which naturally was not accepted for its logical answer on the Internet. The Internet doesn't seem to think that anything is normal. And then we have Mitch McConnell in the hospital putting out a photo. literally with a newspaper in his hand to prove that he is alive on that day. Everyone now on the internet assumes it's AI generate, not everyone, but the usual suspects, I should say. Will, is this just the world we live in where, you know, I was going to say, can't, like,

they can't die or age without people going nuts? Today's topic, Senator's dead and allegedly dead. Yeah. You know, it's interesting. I think we're going to dive in here, but, you know, it's, it recalls this concept of like, you know, when conspiracy theories, when paranoia runs right, there's no sense of, you know, things just being coincidental or things just happening naturally. You know, I thought back after this Lindsay Graham thing, people start saying there's no way a 71 year old man who, you know, I don't think

looked like an ultramarathoner or something, it looks like a normal old guy, that he could just drop dead of the most common cause of death in America. No, it has to be an assassination or something like that. Back when QAnon was really running wild, when George, H.W. Bush was in his 90s, famously, like, half dead for several years. When he finally died, they said, the only explanation is the military tribunal executed him. There's no other way, a reason a guy like this could die. So I think that's very similar to what we're looking at today. Yeah, I don't know.

I mean, I guess part of me wants to think that this has always been the case, right? So obviously, JFK assassination, but that was an assassination. That was like a, you know, literal like gunmen. And so obviously that's going to, you know, spark a ton of conspiracies. The Antonin Scalia case model here is kind of instructive. People sort of, this happened obviously last year of Obama's presidency. There's a Supreme Court vacancy. You know, there's context here.

People are assuming motivations. And then there was the news that he had been discovered, I guess, like with a pill over his head or something. I don't know like that. So everyone just, you know, there were a lot of conspiracies around Scalia, but it wasn't rampant like this. No, I mean, it was not. sort of just like by, you know, the time I woke up on Sunday morning and saw that Lindsay Graham had died. I was, I became aware of this because Laura Lumer was saying things like Lindsey Graham was murdered. You know, and I think we should say here, I would say like the dominant conspiracy theory is that Russia did it.

I mean, Lindsay Graham was recently in Ukraine. You know, I will say to give a little shred of credibility to the conspiracy theorists here, you know, Vladimir Putin does do crazy stuff. He's maybe the one guy if you told me this, that, you know, this, this, this. was the explanation. I'd say, well, maybe, you know, but at this point, we have no real evidence of that. It would be really crazy. I think obviously the more likely things that an old guy, you know, famously, you know, I think if you're an old guy, you travel around, you can get a flight, you can have a kind of a sudden death. Well, his office put out an explanation, and they called it an in anortic dissection. I'm not a doctor, but basically you got bad blood pressure. This happens. You can see the actual statement from the office vis-a-vis Frank Thorpe. It says Senator Graham's office releases preliminary examination findings from the DC medical examiner

regarding Graham's deaths as preliminary examination findings were his death was caused by an aortic dissection. It's cardiovascular disease. And this happens. And then if you talk to medical professionals, it is a painful, sudden, very quick death that happens here. I guess, again, I'm not a doctor. Blood gets into the artery walls. You have to act very quickly. Graham died very suddenly.

this happens. So there is an explanation, and yet people don't want to hear it. But I guess the other thing that it kind of stands out, and we'll get into some of the kooky conspiracy theories in a second, I think the distinction between this and past events is that you have people actually inside the government kind of winking and nodding at it. So here's Cash Patel, our FBI director. The first part of the tweet is totally, and it's standard stuff. Senator Lindsey Graham was a devoted public servant, a fierce defender of our nation, and a true patriot who dedicated his life to the people, South Carolina, and the United States. It's very nice cash. Our prayers are with his family,

loved ones, colleagues, and all those who knew him during his devastating time. That's genuine. It feels good. The FBI is assisting local authorities and has made every resource, necessary resource available. This is, like, deliberate. Either it's cut and pay.

from old statements they issued, or it's deliberate like, hey, there could be some hanky panky here. And that's the difference is that when the FBI director is fanning the flames, you know, you're going to get a lot of this stuff online. Yeah, you get that. It is really funny to slip that in. You go, wait, what? Well, in what way are you assisting? Why would you need to assist? What investigation? What is going on? I mean, I think the FBI, I think, was at his house after this. And so it's really implies that there was foul player. There's reason to suspect foul play. I mean, I know Cash Patel arch hater, Kyle Serafin was claiming that cash just copy-pasted his usual, like something's in the news, like, you know, from a mass shooting or what have you, just copy-paste that in.

We're on scene assisting. I don't know. I mean, I do think, you know, as we can talk about here, I mean, there are a lot of people who are just jumping to this idea that, you know, there's no other explanation for why a guy in his 70s would just drop dead. I just want to take a moment because people might be listening in on this being like, why are you guys just like so focused on the crazy people? And the real news is Lindsay Graham's death and you should honor the death. It's called Maga Monday. It is called Maga Mondays.

This is a show about the internet on the right wing, the right wing internet. I will just say like it is unfortunate and a bit tragic that this is just where the conversation veers right away. And it's kind of crazy that you have. have congressional offices that have in this moment where, I mean, these guys all worked, or these people all worked for Lindsay Graham, probably for many years. And in this moment of like tragedy for them, they have to start thinking, okay, wait a second, we have to move fast before things really take root and people start thinking it's foul play. Like we have to be on our game and make sure that everything is out there in the public.

because things can really go off the rails. So to that point, a few of our conspiracy theories here. We got Bill Ackman. He deleted this tweet, I think, but he posted a video or a picture of Lindsey Graham, I believe, in Kiev, where Bill Ackman, who not so long ago was a serious figure who, like, made a lot of money and was considered a serious human being. this doesn't look like a guy who would die hours later. Okay. You have Gunther Eagleman, which is not his real name, but what is his real name again? I'm not sure.

Okay. That's not his real name. He's Guinther to me. Yeah, he's going through to me too. He's a prolific poster. He posts all the time. Hey, Grock, did Lindsay Graham get the COVID vaccine? Okay.

If he got the COVID vaccine, probably would have been about five, six years ago. Maybe he got the booster. Damn, that back speed. Yeah. You dropped that five years later. Damn, the long game that Fauci plays. All right, Clinton Russell, Liberty Lock Pod. Okay, get your Tim Fall ready.

Thank you for the warning, Clint. Graham inspected a drone factory in Ukraine yesterday. Russia blew up that facility today. Then tonight it is announced that Graham is dead from a, quote, sudden illness. No more details, I'd say there's a decent chance that Russia blew up Lindsay Graham. No, no, no, no. There's not a decent chance. that Russia blew up Lindsay Graham, you got home to the United States.

What are we talking about? You know, if I could just offer some insights on the dynamics of this conspiracy theory in the making here. So what's challenging here is that, you know, the villain in this conspiracy theory is Russia, probably, unless, you know, there's been some like Lindsey Graham. Well, the vaccine. Well, the vaccine or Lindsey Graham was right about to pass the save act, you know, until, you know, who knows. Have people done that one? There's been a bit of that that Lindsay was like, we're going to do it. We're going to, oh, you know.

On the other hand, most of the conspiracy weight in the right-wing media is pro-Russia or neutral Russia. Now, Laura Lumer recently has become, you know, Slava-Ukraine-Go Zelensky, because Trump has become more in favor of Ukraine. But then that's why she's now saying, oh, you know, it was Russia that did it. But people like Candice Owens, Tucker Carlson, the big heavyweights. Ian Carroll. I mean, some of these people were just in Moscow or St. Petersburg. So I think it's kind of a square peg in a round hole. Why don't you clear your throat? And I'll take it from here. It does create some problems when you're both simultaneously touting how incredible Russia is and going on their metros

and saying, well, it's so clean. And then also being like, oh, shoot, did they just kill a U.S. senator but i keep coming back to the possibility that this is just a natural tragic death and people can't i don't know why they don't want to believe that i get what you know i mean you study their people more than i do why don't they just want to believe that you know i think once you're into conspiracy theories it becomes kind of your the you're the heuristic you use to understand the world and you know with the big line about conspiracy theories is like everything is connected nothing has a coincidence along those lines and you know and i think think look in your heart of hearts i think deep inside people it is comforting to believe that the only

way a 71 year old man can die is if he goes to the ukrainian drone factory and angers vladimir of putin makes you feel better it feels like you're not going to drop dead someday yeah i guess so um but these things do happen um the one of the great conspiracies of our time is don't trump um and yet don't trump has not done any of that in the aftermath of lindsay unless I miss something. Trump did call into a bunch of Sunday shows. He's talked about Lindsey Graham, but he hasn't pushed any like, oh, Russia did this, right?

Not that I've seen, although he might be like, you know, we got to let them build those Patriot missiles in Ukraine, you know, avenge Lindsay. He's used the opportunity to push the Save America Act. So there's that, but that's more opportunistic stuff. And the narcissistic stuff, too. I talked a bit about this with Will Salton yesterday after Trump did his round, but Trump was on the on the shows again this morning, I guess on Fox. And this is just sort of classically, I had to play this, even though I don't really, like,

it doesn't really get into the conspiracies that we're talking about. But it is, it gives you a sense of like the polls that are operating in the Republican Party. There's a conspiracy theorist poll. They're sort of the sane, oh, man, it's a real tragedy. I can't believe that he died at 71. People should go, like, make sure they have, you know, proper diet and the blood pressure is not off the charts. There's that poll. And then there's the like, you know, it's all about me, Donald Trump poll, which is Donald Trump.

So here's Donald Trump talking about Lindsey Graham on Fox this morning. And you can you can see why I kind of was tickled by this clip after you watch. He had one bad moment. And that was, you know, the January 6th thing when he stood up, all right. Now I've had it. That's it. I can't do it anymore. Didn't he call me like about 40 minutes later?

Did I really say that? I can't believe it. And he took it back. So I give him a 99 instead of a 100. You know, most people were, a lot of people were at 100, but he did have that one little moment. And it was sort of funny when he goes, did you see it? By the way, I've had it. Now I've had it.

He was just, you know, too, I was too much for him. He said, this is it. I've had it. I'm just like, to take this time the day after and be like, yeah, he did have that one moment where he criticized me for January 6th. So I have to ding him a little bit. Unbelievable levels of narcissism. Yeah.

I mean, it's striking to me. I mean, obviously here at the bulwark, people talk a lot about, you know, leaving the Republican Party because he can't stomach Trump or the people who stayed. And it's striking that, you know, Lindsay Graham was very much one of these guys who made an accommodation with Trump. And that, you know, after his sudden death, you know, the thing he's remembered for as far as Trump is concerned is sort of being ridiculed for his one moment of integrity and then going back on it. So, you know, I feel like it really kind of typifies the Trump experience. Oh, yeah, 100%. I mean, that was the accommodation Graham made. And honestly, I think it does kind of fit within the Maga Monday rubric that January 6 is sort of the prism through which Trump views a lot of this stuff.

And Lindsay veered off the reservation and then came back. And so Trump's cool with it. But anyone else who hasn't come back, you're no good in Trump's book. Do you have any insight into, like, who people on the MAGA right want to replace Lindsay Graham by any chance or now? You know, it's a little unclear to me at this point. I'm not, you know, Nancy Mace, you know, is not. No, I was going to say, I mean, we know she's mulling it. But, but, you know, I'm not sure.

I feel like this, this is kind of a classic race that could become polarized and probably some money is being passed out as we speak to like MAGA influencers to start saying, you know, this guy, this guy's woke. He can't be the new senator. But I, but I don't think at this point really a candidate has emerged. Okay. Well, that's it for our Lindsay discussion today. We'll have more, honestly.

JV.L's running by Lindsay Grimm for the. try it for folks to get ready for. I know Will Salton, who kind of wrote the book on Lindsay Graham, he's going to be writing a piece. I believe for Press Pass. That's tomorrow. Interesting and complicated legacy. And it's sad to see people hijacking it to, you know, do their stupid conspiracy theorizing. But that's not the only one they're doing it for.

We got an update on Mitch McConnell. If people don't know, Mitch McConnell has been in the hospital for weeks now. He's not in great health. He's 84. so just 13 years older than Lindsey Graham. People had not heard from him or seen him. There was this kind of weird moment a week ago where Scott Jennings on CNN went on and said,

I had a 20-minute conversation with Lindsay, and then two senators said the same thing, but no one had heard McConnell's voice. Sorry, I had a 20-minute conversation with Mitch. And no one had heard McConnell's voice, and people were wondering, like, is Scott Jennings just full of shit? yesterday McConnell's staff put out a post here you go with McConnell and his wife Elaine

Chow obviously in the hospital and a chair and there's a lot to pick over in the post for starters he looks you know it's I don't know not normally that you sit in the hospital in jeans in a shirt like that usually you're in scrubs or not scrubs you're in hospital tire I was, I mean, the first thing I said to me was the newspaper, which obviously was meant to be there. Proof of Life. It's the sports section from the Washington Post. It happens to be the sports section the day of. So yeah, what did you make of this one?

Yeah, it's very casual proof of life. I think they said, you know, if you hold it up, that's a little kind of Beirut in the 80s, you know, a little hostage video. But let's just sort of, he's like, you know, by the way, for the cognoscenti, you might notice that I'm doing proof of life here. I think as you said, I mean, he's...

Oh, you think you should have held it like this? Well, I, I, I think like an assassination video. Yeah, I got you. This is a tasteful. This is a tasteful one. Just saying, you know, and by the way, sports also, I think is also a little more casual with it. You know, like if he was holding up the front page, that feels really like proof of life. Yeah, he's been through the paper.

Oh, I'm just reading about baseball. Oh, but... Or is that the front page? I could have been that sports made the front page. I got to double check that. Okay. I believe it's the sports section. I might be wrong.

I mean, it is obviously a picture of sports. It's a baseball player. But I wonder if they put it on the front page. Maybe people in the comment section will know. Okay, go on. Sorry. And as you said, it is interesting that he's dressed up, you know, in a, the sort of like grab his clothes so we can get him out of the gown.

And, you know, overall, I think there's a lot of questions about why couldn't they put a video out? It's sort of like, hey, it's me, your friend, Mitch McConnell. So kind of a notes app situation. So this is one where you actually do say there might be something more to it than meets the eye. I mean, I think probably what's the more to it is that he's probably in such a state that, you know, I think people would be struck if he tried to talk or I think he would probably just come off as feeble. I mean, I think it's probably the explanation. I mean, obviously he's feeble.

He's been in the hospital for a month. You know, and I think that's what it is. I mean, I know as we'll dive into, I mean, there are those who think there's something more sinister at play. The statement said, my doctors have confirmed that I didn't break any bones or suffer a concussion. I didn't have a heart attack or a stroke. I don't have any tumors or hemorrhages. He said he was briefly unconscious or falling. He was taken by emergency responders to the hospital.

I believe he did have a bout of pneumonia. But, yeah, he had a mild case of pneumonia. It's been a month. And I think we saw him prior to, or we saw a video of him prior to going to the hospital. he did not look good. He clearly is not in great health. It does feel like that, you know, I don't think it's AI,

and we're going to get to that in a second. But obviously, like, when you put out just a photo, you know, that's a deliberate choice, right? You could do a video if you wanted to, or even audio recording. They just did a photo. So there's a reason probably for that. No one's actually heard his voice yet.

So we'll see. So, yeah, naturally people are losing their minds online about this. Jason Chaffetz, we're not going to put up that cheap tweet, but Jason Javis, the ex-congesman says, let's see you say it. A written statement is far different than saying it on camera. That's, I guess, true, actually, on that case. Lumer, recurring character here. She believes it's AI. Yeah. What do you, what else have you seen out there? It says Ms. McConnell's staff appeared to have used an AI altered photo. They are never going to recover from this. I mean, you know, look, I think Mitch McConnell's got a lot of haters out there. I think

it's pretty clear that they're kind of trying to ride this out, you know, until his term is over. I mean, he says in the statement, he's like, look, you know, I'm not exactly hailing hardy, but then again, that's why I'm quitting the Senate. So, you know, come on, give me a couple more months. You know, what's the difference? He does have four more months until the election. But, you know, it's like you still have to be a senator that he's got some serious votes coming up. There's obviously Todd Blanche confirmation hearings are coming up.

There's government funding at end of September. save America, actually, if they want to bring it back up, although I think he was opposed to that. There's a host of different things, and he's just not in the Senate, and it appears like that's just not going to be something he's going to do for four more months. But, yeah, he doesn't also have many fans on the right. I think people are generally disappointed with him in the sort of far-right movement, so I don't think people are going to rush to defend his honor. Anything else before we get off of the topic of dead or near-de- death senators. Dead or near dead senators.

No, I think, you know, the Lumer thing, I think, points to something interesting. This AI idea, the idea of the proof of life was AI that they kind of photoshopped in the cover of the newspaper, I think it's getting a lot of traction. So that's one to watch. Yeah, no, AI is definitely like complicating these things, both in nefarious and comedic ways. I don't know if you've seen videos of Mitch McConnell as one of the zombies and thriller. Have you seen that one? I think that one's AI.

But yeah, it's like, you know, it is going to become tougher to tell this, to tell the stuff, right? Like, it's just like the ability to manipulate photos. I mean, I'm not some people doing Zapruder film type stuff. They're like, look at the little crack in the wall and the way his finger is holding the paper. And it's just like, you got to like, you know, have expertise, I suppose now. Not saying this photo is AI, I don't think it is AI. I just think they staged it fairly well for him. But yeah.

All right. What do you want to talk about next? We have a couple, we have like a good potpourri of things that you love. Yes, yes. Well, look, I mean, should we talk about the Albania resort? Yes, please. Can you set it up, please? Yes.

So, long-time Maga Monday listeners will remember that Jared and Ivanka Kushner have been trying to build a mega resort on some islands in Albania, one of which is an abandoned Cold War submarine base, another of which is a very important flamingo wetland. Now, both of these... Do you remember how many hectares there are? Oh my gosh, it was tens of thousands of hectares, hector's. I thought it was 14,000, but maybe it was 100.

How many? I'll look it up while you talk. Thank you, thank you. But basically, this thing has been, you know, such a mess. There's a lot of accusations that the Kushners have been... 1,400. Just looked it up. I was right.

Okay. 14, well, yeah. Not enough heckners. Well, that's one problem. And look, even one hectare is going to be an issue here. Because so the backstory is like, you know, among other things, there were all these protests that almost brought down the Albanian government over this. There's a lot of Gulf states involved in the funding here.

There's a public corruption prosecution over how they got these permits. And now the EU is saying, you know, one of the key things about being an EU member, Albania, is that you need to respect Flamingo Wetlands. And Albania go, you know, oh, no. So this thing is really embroiled. And now the new story is, I believe, from Reuters is that basically the guy, yes, businessman who sold land for Kushner Resort in Albania suspected of faking the deeds.

And look, a lot of shout out to that headline, good headline. The story itself is actually even crazier. So basically, this is a guy who is a notorious alleged Albanian crime figure, organized crime. I believe he's based out of the U.S. now, going back to the 90s. I was reading articles about this guy where it was like, you know, he had to flee the country because he got on the wrong side of, you know, some different syndicate. But basically, and there's also an allegation that he gained his wealth originally from trafficking South American cocaine into Albania.

I guess I'm confused. Can we stop for a second? Yeah. How did he even have the deeds, like, to fake? Where is the government in this, like, how did this get to this point where they're like, oh, yeah, this Miami-based guy is just handing out deeds to our land? Well, I think these are the highs and lows of doing business in a country like Albania. On one hand, maybe you can get them very quickly, the deeds.

I almost have been on my coffee. Okay, yes. But on the other, those deeds might not be real. So basically what's going on here is that there is a village, as I understand it. There's a village involved here. And the villagers say, well, no, actually, this is our land. You can tell because we all have houses and we live here. But he claims, no, I have the deed.

And so the allegation is that he basically forged the deeds and sold. Then he said, okay, Jared and Ivanka and various golf shakes, you give me the money and here's your deed and now you can build your resort. And no one at any point in time from the government decide to step in and say, wait a second, we can determine if these deeds are real before you enter this arrangement? Like no, no, those are fake. Well, and you're right that the president of Albania has really embraced this. He's like, this is going to turn Albania, you know, into the, this is going to be the number one tourist destination in the world. And now apparently this Deeds dispute actually dates back several decades between the villagers and this alleged cocaine trafficker. And imagine a dispute like that.

And Jared and Ivanka say, I will enter that on the side of the cocaine trafficker. Well, it's beautiful. It's a beautiful 1,400 hectare plot of land. At some point, you just got to take the land. This is insane because the government may be like overthrown, right? Like there's been protests throughout the streets. It's wild. I can't believe that it even got this far.

Well, and remember, you know, when the security beat up one of the protesters who turned out to be a Greek citizen and then Greece was like... I don't remember that. What happened? Yeah, there was a protest at the site and then the security, there was like a fence and then, you know, between the construction site and the protesters. And then the security basically went and grabbed one of the protesters and just started on video, just beating the crap out of him. And then that guy turned out to be a Greek citizen.

So then the Greek embassy was like, you know, we're going to, you know, we're going to, you know, we're going to stop you from joining the EU and all this stuff. So all of this, just so Jared and Ivanka, you know, can open up a resort. I don't think it's worth it, Albania. No. You got to feel for the flamingos, innocent bias standards and all this. They just want their land. Is this, I mean, I'm asking you all this stuff as if you've been, like, hot on the story,

but like, is this going to happen? Are they going through with it? I have to say, you know, I do you know. I don't know. It's getting, yeah, my sources in Tarana say basically the, although actually, you know, I say my sources in Toronto, after our last segment on this on the Flamingos, people did reach out. I think there was an ecologist who said, I've been to this island, I can tell you all about it. There were people who are in Albania.

And so like Maga Monday is big in Albania. And so if we can, we can help put our hand on the scales here and say, I think to the president of Albania, at this point, I don't think it's worth it. You know, the other aspect I want to point out here is this is the island famously where Ivanka said, you know, we kind of washed up on the sea. We were just on our boat. And I said, what a beautiful island. And we were walking around barefoot. And apparently this is like really like a rocky island.

There's like, again, it's a submarine base. So the idea of just like kind of frolicking barefoot at the decommissioned submarine base, there's been a lot of skepticism. I'm looking this stuff up now. Yeah. There's this 2021 Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project about Arthur Shehu Yes

Who was accused of stealing nearly 500 hectares This is from there Of prime real estate So that's only 500 You can't get enough hectares But that was 2021 Maybe he just kept stealing This is truly madness

And look, I mean I think this is about like One of three or four corruption investigations related to this deal. Yeah. Okay. Albanian prosecutors was led she sold about 110 million euros worth of coastal land for a luxury resort backed by Jared Kushner, used forged property deeds to claim ownership. They accuse him of money laundering, drug trafficking, or using criminal proceeds to build a real estate empire.

They froze in the sale proceeds, preventing him from receiving the money. He denies all allegations. Wow. Okay. Well, look, if you're a lot of allegations. in Albania, obviously you're already hitting Will up, but if you have any good scoops for Will, we can make a false flag out of this one. This is pretty good stuff. And then that brings us to your boy. Yes, clavicular. Actually, let me, before we end with clavicular, which is a break,

I don't know if you saw this. I haven't seen anything of this, but this does get to something that I think is problematic, which is libs of TikTok. Do you see this one? Can we put up the tweet? Okay, put up the tweet, Libs of TikTok tweet, if we have. Okay. This is from today. 538 a.m. Good morning, Patriots. We are on the ground in North Carolina embedded with DHS covering an ice operation. Some very bad people who shouldn't be here are about to get arrested. Stay tuned for live updates. I'm going to check in on Libs and see if there's any live updates. But this is like the type of stuff that can end pretty badly, I feel like. And in fact, already this is not. She's, Libs is in North Carolina. But we have a report from today. in Maine of another potential shooting involving ice. Again, Maine is different than North Carolina. But having libs of TikTok kind of roll around and try to pump up the ice agents to get some good content is the recipe for disaster. Hopefully nothing bad happens.

But I'm going to scan. I have a tweet from a driver reportedly just try to run. Oh, no, she's talking about the main thing. Okay. Why do they keep bringing them by these content creators with them? Well, yeah, you know, I mean, we've seen obviously lives of TikTok, I think about a year ago, did this as well, where she was like really widely ridiculed for, you know, Kyraich, you know, in the bulletproof vest and everything. You know, they love having these influencers. I think Dr. Phil has done some ride-alongs.

There's also been a lot of reporting, and forgive me, I forget who did it, but about a guy named Ben Berkwam, who's like a ban on associate who has basically become like almost like an adjunct ice guy because he's just. just with them so much. It's crazy, in particular, as you said, given that ICE keeps being involved in these shootings, and then you have like lives of TikTok kind of like, you know, hey, hey, let's get some content. Yeah, it's just content creation. That's it.

They just want to create some stuff to go viral. The internet's addictive. I think people need to sign off. Did you see that, JD? Did you see the reporting from Maggie and Jonathan about JD Vance getting too deep into the conspiracy theories before we get to Cliff the clip killer? Did you see this?

Yes. In the Charlie Kirk case? Yeah, where he just like went down the rabbit hole. Like he clearly is kind of an internet addict and he, that's why he had to get rid of his phone. I mean, look, I believe he was following Bronze Age Pervert back in the day. I mean, he's into all... Bronze Age Pervert. Bronze Age Pervert.

He's kind of like a nationalist. You know, he's one of these kind of like proto-fascist. Like, we got to go back to the days where we lived in like the Peloponnesian War and we have villages and we raid other villages and we all eat, you know, a lot of protein. Okay. Well, it's good that J.D. is no longer online as much, but it's a little bit disconcerning that he, our vice president, was just like addicted to the Twitter discourse around Charlotte Kirk's death and really went down the rabbit holes.

That's like, that's when you know these things are way too addictive. It's amazing that you've stayed relatively normal and sane considering how much you are online. But, you know, I get that a lot. And then I'll just randomly say something. conversation with friends and they go like what the hell are you talking about like i'll say you know how we all we've all heard that one you know well you just did it with me where ron's age something rather and raw egg nationals all right um your boy what's going on with him all right okay look the american relationship with israel we know it's strained but i think it's only going to get worse because

clavicular the famous looksmaxer is causing an international incident in israel now there's a lot to unpack here. Now, Braden Peters, clavicular, handsome, meth smoking, he gets up to antics. Last week, he goes to Israel and is doing kind of like a pro-Israel tour. He's hanging out in Tel Aviv. He's not, let's say, he's not doing the Roqueana. He's not going to the settlement. Can you imagine if he got detained, although it seems to kind of be headed that way. But basically, he's going around with some lovely ladies associated with the IDF or the Israeli Masad, yes, that he's saying, you know, one girl he's with, he's in his kind of iconic sprinter van going between the nightclubs. And she says, you know, look, I can log into the IDF Twitter account. And he's like, oh.

Now famously, clavicular kind of got on, I think, a lot of people's radar when he went to the nightclub with Nick Fuentes and Andrew Tate back in January. They played Kanye West Hale Hitler song. And so he came off like a Nazi. Since then, he's tried to distance himself from this. But look, you go to Israel, people are going to have questions about this. And so, you know, he's been, you know, he's going on Israeli TV. And they said, well, what's up with you and old Hitler? And he said, you know, I can't believe you're bringing this up. I'm just trying to make people see how beautiful Israel is and you're being very rude. That's it.

Well, there's people have confronted him. I think the challenge is, I don't think I'm being, I'm stereotyping here to say that Israelis are a people. And that basically, clavicular's whole thing is that he comes to your country and demeans women and sleeps with them. And now, you know, he posted a tweet that he was like, I love, I'm geomaxing. I love going to poor countries. I'm geomaxing. This is the new thing, is geomaxing. I love going to, because basically now the relationship with Israel has soured. And now,

I think he may have left already. He cut the trip short. But basically, he kind of then started just criticizing Israel. And so he's says, I love going to countries with poor women and seducing them. And so the implication of being you broke Israelis. And so people were not happy about it. Is there any video we have of this or now? You know, the video, it's sort of an extended clip. There wasn't like one great moment.

But basically, the Israeli anchor is like, you know, clavicular, answer for yourself. And he says, hey, man, like, I'm just clivicular. I'm just here to party. So it's been strange. How is this being, how is this being, how is this being handled domestically? Obviously, this is, you know, I'm not like breaking news here, but the IDF, Mossad, Israel itself are fairly controversial right now. Clavicular going over there and just hanging out with a bunch of IDF women and like having fun. Probably is not going to go particularly well online.

Like as Fuentes weighing in? Well, yeah, so Fuentes has said, look, clavicular. He's just doing his content. I think for Fuentes, there's perhaps two things going on. Number one is that he may see the clavicular. It's sort of like when you leave the mafia on good terms. You know, it's like, okay, like he's out of the game now. On the other hand, I think Fuentes recognizes that having this guy,

who I think does have very, you know, reactionary views in many ways, having him out, you know, circulating, getting attention is ultimately good for the, the gropecker cause, even if clivocular isn't necessarily a groper himself. But what I want to dive into, people may remember. remember, clivicular had a business deal with a known Israeli mafia associate, right? And so people were saying, why is it that clavicular? I think this, well, he was in France previously. I was not to say this is his first international trip. But basically, why is clavicular now on a goodwill tour of Israel? On one hand, there's some reporting that people associated with

Netanyahu are somewhat guiding clavicular in Israel. So I think, you know, I think Netanyahu's circle appears to be very online. And so possibly, Oh, this is like one of those things where you're trying to get an influencer on your side and you kind of pay them under the table type thing. Maybe paid or maybe just, hey, Clivicular, come on over. We'll, you know, we'll put you up. But also, what I want to highlight here is that so Clivocular opened this nightclub in Miami with a guy named High Vaknine, who is a, according to federal prosecutors,

one of the most feared Israeli mafia associates in the United States. A lot of ears that he cut off. Yes. Famously, he had boasted about cutting off someone's ear. You know, I mean, numerous, really a diamond of an article, if I can say so myself, very nervous. And so basically, that relationship, since we've last discussed it, has gone south. And clavicular pulled out of his influencer nightclub with high.

Now, at the time, before this happened, I had said, this is not a guy you want to mess with clavicular. Don't go in business with this guy. And now what I'm hearing from clavicular world is that clavicular is very much the one who caused the trouble in this relationship. That basically, like, I think, look, I think High was, you know, shearing the sheep here.

Like, it was maybe not the most advantageous of arrangement for clivocular, but then clavicular kind of busted it up on unfair terms and left High feeling aggrieved. Now, I'm putting on my tinfoil hat here. I wonder if going to Israel is some attempt to assuage

the Vakhanin family and the Jerusalem gang that associated with them, or perhaps if they, I don't know, they requested he do this, or that this is just generally kind of like, hey, I'm cool with Israel. All right. Well, we'll keep tracks of clavicular, but that's not the only looks maxing news this weekend. I saw that there was, this is tragedy in looks maxing community. Yeah, so this is a little looksmaxer update section.

This is a guy named, I believe, Connor Murphy and American looksmaxer. I was not aware of him. There's a lot of these guys out there. but, you know, he was pretty successful, I guess. You know, he was certainly buff. And so he had gone to Thailand. And unfortunately, he drowned last week. Basically, it seems like he was dealing with some mental illness.

And police were called to sort of like there was a disturbance. And then he tried to escape by like swimming away from them in a lake or a river and he drowned. But the thing I want to highlight is that androgenic, who's kind of a more prominent looksmaxer, associated with clavicular, he was kicking. He was kicked out a clavicular circle after the overdose because people felt that he was providing clavicular with some drugs. I mean, he's denied it. He's Australian. So he's back in Australia. People may remember this guy.

He wears a wig. And so people will kind of the big gag is that they'll snatch his wig. It's kind of like a three stooges thing. And then he goes, oh, you know, and he's bald. But basically, but he also is kind of getting a reputation as a, as like the woke look maxer because he misgendered. How can you be a looks maxer and wear a wig? well that's that's looks maxing right i mean if you're bald i guess but uh you're at the heart of it you're bald well you know i think there's some of looks maxing is is being jester as clivocular would say

telling a little joke and you know sometimes you got to have a schick so basically um what happened here so what i'm saying is he's the woke one because he did misgendered a trans woman and then he apologized for it and so people are like wow he's so woke but anyways he's weighing in here and He kind of explains what happens to this recently deceased looks and axer. And this, as you watch this, ask yourself, what century are we in? Let's play that androgenic clip. Recently, well, unfortunately, he started to get this fixation on gold. He started to believe that gold was some gate kept mineral by the higher ups that actually basically gives you special powers if you ingest it.

like you get ability to tap into other dimensions and high levels of consciousness. Perfect. There we go. Alchemy. So basically, apparently in this guy's pursuit of looks maxing, he was ingesting gold. I can't get over that dude's wig. I can't. Of all the hairstyles to choose, he went, can we put that back up?

You can just, you don't have to play with volume. I just want to see this guy. Like, that's the wig he went with? Yeah, I'll just take a lot of hair. Is it backwards? You know, I think he was doing a blonde one relatively recently. So I guess there's a rotation. Why not just go shortcut?

Like, come on, man. It'd be fine. That's a silly wig. I would not do that wig. But I'm not a looks maxer, so what do I know? All right, the gold stuff is weird, but it doesn't shock me, honestly. I feel like these people who put hammers to their faces and take meth to look skinnier. Like, yeah, they'll be up for trying some other periodic table elements in their body.

There's a point where endogenics, like, he had read some study that eating gold increases your IQ by 15 points. But I said, like, brother, these results have never been replicated. Like, I mean, these guys are really deep in the science. The science? I don't know if I call it science. Maybe, I don't know. Don't ingest gold people. It's dumb. Don't do it. I feel like that's pretty basic one-on-one, but these guys might not be the brightest tools. I will say I'm happy that we have a looks maxer who is sympathetic and empathetic and woke. It's good to know that there's some,

you know, there's some people who have consciousnesses in that community. But on that note, I think we got to stop because I got nothing else, unless you have something else you want to talk about. Yeah, no, I mean, it's, there's a lot brewing. And, you know, let's Be careful about androgenic, though. You know, his catchphrase is the situation is fucked. So I feel like, you know, he likes to get into antics. How do you know that? Well, because when he got banished from clavicular circle over the drug thing,

I was watching a lot of his videos to get his side of the story. Okay. Well, maybe we can get him on the pod. I will, I'll be kinder about his hairpiece. Will, thanks for doing this, man. Folks, remember, if you're in Albania and you know this drug lord who's faking deeds, like hit us up, we would love to know. anything more about it.

Yeah, we'll do this again next Monday. Well, take care, buddy. Thanks, everyone. Later.