Bulwark Takes - The Internet is Bullying Sam Stein!

Episode Date: January 8, 2026

The trio is back and 2026 is off to a wild start. Tim Miller, Sam Stein, and Will Sommer give their takes on the calls for Nicki Minaj to be deported, the political influencers for sale creating a rea...lity TV show, and former FBI deputy director Dan Bongino blasting Matt Gaetz in a fiery MAGA feud.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, everybody. It's Tim Miller here, the leader of the fingering trio. We were back together. And it's been, it's 2026. And, uh, yeah, I just, there's so much out there with so many topics that I've summoned the trio together on a variety of things. We're going to let Sam run the show. But among them, uh, I absolutely want to talk about Sam being filleted on the internet, uh, for a very mean tweet about Amy Klobuchar. I want to talk about Dan Gino fighting Mac Gates and Milo. I want to talk about Influenceria. I want to talk about, I want to deport Mickey Minaj. I want to deport Nicky Minaj. I'm very excited about this. I want to talk about that.
Starting point is 00:00:44 And Will wrote an article about how MAG is directing to Venezuela. And so I just, I'm thrilled. I am, I have turgidity. I'm so excited to be here. I'm supposed to pick up you, you want to talk about, you want me to
Starting point is 00:01:01 emce a part of this show. Oh, you don't take over the rest of the show. I just wanted to tell everybody why we're together. I'm just, I was so excited. And I wanted to lay out the topics I wanted to talk about. And then hand it over. Sure. Let's just start with me being, in your words, filleted on the internet. I had no idea
Starting point is 00:01:17 I was being filleted. For the Clobuchar tweet, that seems to be. Oh, yeah. You're getting crushed. Sam Stein sent a tweet that said Amy Klobuchar for governor, a a, what was it, a fork? A combing, a, a comb in every salad, a chicken in every pot. A comb in every side, chicken in every pot.
Starting point is 00:01:34 It's a reference to when Amy Kovachar threw a comb at a staffer. She ate, she got mad at a stoffer because she couldn't find a fork for her salad. And so she ate the salad with her comb. With her comb. It seems like a part of her a war. No, there are a lot of, you can tell the blue sky people have moved back to Twitter. They're like, Sam's being so mean to Amy Klobuchar. Sam's a misogynist, Sam, it's like, oh, you can see the bias showing in your thing, Sam. It's like, shut the fuck up, everybody.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Shut the fuck up. It's a funny joke. It was a little joke as a throwback to the comb salad incident of Amy Clomichard. They put themselves into public life. They can be teased a little bit. We laugh very, we're going to laugh a lot at Benny Johnson's grinder habit here in a second. We can also laugh at Amy Klobuchar's salad fork eating. So if you are one of those people, unhappiness Sam, I'm so disappointed in you, Sam.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Do better. Shut up. Hasn't Amy Klobuchar made light of it, too? I feel like she leaned into this one. Maybe I'm misremembering it, but I don't know. Yes, of course. Amy loves it. Amy loves it.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Can I tell you to Amy Klobuchar? Sorry, Will hasn't even got to talk yet. Will's going to talk eventually, I promise. I was at a party. I hate the D.C. parties. I'm not a D.C. party. I'm not a D.C. Party. Circuit person like Sam.
Starting point is 00:02:52 I moved for a reason. I haven't picked to a D. party in years. I went to one it was like a brunch and I was hung over and I was kind of hung over a brunch and Liz Smith who was Pete Buttigieg's comms person. We all know this. And Amy Klobuchar walks over
Starting point is 00:03:06 and and I like drunkenly not drunkly I wasn't really drunk yet but I was like at a hungover phase it was kind of awkward between her and Liz you know because of the Pete Amy tensions and I so I tried to break the ice and I was just like Senator it's okay
Starting point is 00:03:23 like don't worry Pete Pete's kind of a grower. Like he grew, I didn't like him at first either. He grew on me. That type of a grower. And she was like, what? And then Liz, it's like, you just called Peter Grower in front of Amy Klobuchar? And then Amy laughed a lot. And then she, there was a good exchange where she was very sell, and she was like, me and Peter, fine. That's all internet stuff. It makes me laugh. She has a sense of humor. You should too. That's all. I mean, I'll just say, I don't apologize for my tweet. And I think if the senator were on here she would probably come on with the comb and be eating out of a salad with it to make good light
Starting point is 00:04:01 of it. And people just need to relax. Also, as I've said a million times, probably on some of these takes, I kind of enjoy internet hate and I'm a little upset that I missed it. So I'm going to go Yeah, go look at your replies. It's not good. Yeah, I'll do that after we're done recording. All right, can we move on? Sure. I want to get Will in here. So let me just pick up by saying Will tweeted something. I hadn't seen any i hadn't seen it before will tweeted it and there's this show that's coming out apparently you know i get it right when it comes out so okay got you so i just want i i i have no idea who basically 90% of these people are maybe 95 but there apparently there's a political
Starting point is 00:04:43 influence reality show apparently coming to amazon i'm throwing a lot of apparently's there because it's not clear to me if it's coming to amazon uh will can you just talk a bit about what we're going to watch here because we're going to play part of the trailer for this insanely dumb show that we're all going to probably binge watch. So this is a show from a guy named Xavier de Rousseau,
Starting point is 00:05:04 who is sort of a like C tier. Is that his real name? It's unclear to me. A lot of these characters are, you know, not a lot. Basically, these are people who I would say are very much kind of MAGA influencers. I hate to say for sale,
Starting point is 00:05:20 but they are people who, are very involved in getting junkets, Xavier went to Qatar recently. They go to Israel. They're kind of like, they have big Instagram platforms, big Twitter platforms. And they're, but in terms of like their actual influence, I think it's unclear. But they are, they're like fame balls. They're their personalities who are out there. And I will say, it's unclear to me whether this is like an Amazon prime show, like an Amazon original, or what I think is more likely that this is like being put on demand on Amazon. What does it mean? It's like how you could upload a self-published book to Amazon. Yes, exactly. You could also upload a self-published show to Amazon.com. And I actually, I did a little
Starting point is 00:06:04 reporting here. It's Amazon.org. Yeah, tell us you're reporting, because it looks to me like the production value is not insignificant. And they're all renting a house. I mean, there's got to be some real money behind this. So where is this coming from? So, I mean, my reporting is that I asked Xavier when it's coming out. And he said it's coming out probably in February. And then he had some kind of snippy remarks to me because I had said, you know, the show looked cursed, all this stuff. And he said, yeah,
Starting point is 00:06:32 you'll be watching it's day one, aren't you? And I said, well, yeah, I mean, of course, that's kind of my thing. But the, I mean, we'll see. There's a lot of characters in here. Um, should we watch it? Coming in February. That's very exciting. We should watch. Wait, does he mean February in like a month or February in like a year and a month?
Starting point is 00:06:48 Okay. Here are the influencers. Who Who are these people? I don't know that lady. Well, that's destiny. That's Xavier. I elected a literal socialist to run the global center of capitalism. We're talking about giving the Nobel Peace Prize to a guy who is declaring war on his own cities.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Your job is Emily. That's Emily. Emily. You just support your gay husband. It's Xavier Day. It's Xavier week. Like the only reason you're choosing to go meet up with your friend Amber Rose while we're filming a reality shows because you aren't in the ship. I know that Xavier himself.
Starting point is 00:07:24 That's Clarkson, so I'm in Clarkson. That's your guy. Now I run your show, f***. I got you. I miss Charlie. This is America. We're in. We're the counter organization's attorney point USA.
Starting point is 00:07:38 We slap it. We slap it. I try to be the gateway drug. Thurst trap them in a little bit. He's a liar. And he lied to everyone. I do not want to crawl back to being a corporate whore. I don't want this to get home.
Starting point is 00:07:57 It's stressful out here, being black and Republican. You accidentally said slavery was a... I'm actually authentic. People change. You stay this fucking same because you just want to get a check. I'm as real as my hair. Thank you. If I were Israel, I wouldn't even provide matching socks to God.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Walk with me. With all due respect, I'm not going to call a grown man destiny. His name is Stephen. Get serious. Oh, no. Big plastic surgery. Big in that world. Twitter's a mental hospital.
Starting point is 00:08:32 My entire brand is hard. That's enough. That's enough. You do have to have. Oh, wait. Why did we stop? It was so good. My entire brand just fell apart after I got this plastic surgery.
Starting point is 00:08:46 And Xavier puts himself in the trailer quite a bit. I noticed. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Um, well, look, it's, it's an exciting bunch, right? I mean, you've got Destiny, uh, who's obviously this kind of center-left commentator, I think, with some, you know, an unsavory background, shall we say. Uh, we've got Emily Saves America, who is a Republican commentator, you know, she's the one who they're saying, you said slavery was okay. And she goes, well, what are you going to do? Were any of those people involved in the fingering incident? Um, I believe Emily was involved. in the kind of larger fight around that.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Yeah. That's why I remember the fight. You wrote about her. Yeah. And then there was that guy who you interviewed who goes to the ice facilities, but it doesn't seem like he's actually part of the house. What's his name, Robbie? Robbie, Roadsteamer, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Yeah, yeah. He's not part of this show. Is he just an addendum? We don't know. Taylor's not part of the show. There's a lot of mystery surrounding the release of this show. You know, I should say, Zay. I said Xavier went to Qatar.
Starting point is 00:09:51 In fact, he was offered a chance to go to Qatar and declined. So because he said he wanted to ask critical questions about guitar. But that's kind of the world. Thank you for that. But he was there in Israel. He was there on that down the Israel junket, it looks like. Yeah. Hey, Tim, were you asked to participate in this show by any chance?
Starting point is 00:10:12 I was not. And I thank you for bringing that up because I would have said yes, obviously. And I don't understand why I wasn't When they were doing a whiteboard for this Like why not Tim Everyone else in there It seems to be gay except Destiny I don't know
Starting point is 00:10:31 There are no So you know We need a little drama Some catiness Who is the guy who was getting his face Reconfigured? Clarkson Yeah I met Clarkson
Starting point is 00:10:44 He was for the first time probably three or four years ago now at the America Fest, the TBSA America Fest and he was he was either in the gaze against groomers booth or he was wearing a gaze against groomers
Starting point is 00:11:00 swag. I don't, it's hard to remember I have to go back and look at my notes, but there was like a little gaggle of gays with gays against groomers regalia and I kind of introduced myself and I'm trying to understand what's happening here and had kind of maintained
Starting point is 00:11:16 you know just checking in with various members of them over the years as things went on and uh and clarks and i believe what he's referencing there where he's like where he's like you know you're fake you're so fake and blah blah is like he he has actually to his credit pretty uh gotten a little soft on trump um his support is soft and uh he has is he's a little more independent minded and uh and i think it's hurting his personal brand does he mention there at the end of the show? I think that's kind of the problem with the influencers. You rise and fall, you know, based on the audience whims.
Starting point is 00:11:53 You know, you can't tell me your thing. So not a grower with respect to Trump's way. I know nothing about that. I did not. I did not. It was nothing but professionalism with the gays against groomers. I mean, you never know. You get involved with the gay against groomer.
Starting point is 00:12:10 And then all of a sudden, next thing, you know, jumping out of the closet is this project very tough. Well, I have a good transition here because the other topic we wanted to talk about was this tweet that Gavin Newsom's office put up today, topically here. So Benny Johnson, apparently, is going to California as part of a fraud investigation. I guess this is a new thing in the right where you just bring your video crew and you just walk around to daycare centers and ask to be let in and confront them. Let me see your three-year-olds. Hey, let me in. I have all this cameras.
Starting point is 00:12:47 I'm a closet homosexual and I'd like to see your three-year-olds. So Governor Newsom's press office responds because Benny says our next our team's traveling to the fraud capital of the world, California, blah, blah, blah, blah. Newsom's press office, we'll make sure grind your servers are ready. That really tickled you. well it's just it's it's it's so rare to see a democratic pressure up just not give a fuck and um it was interesting the reaction to this one because um we've written about this actually at the bulwark is like there are occasions where democrats are now just sort of more openly
Starting point is 00:13:29 comfortable with what would be described in other times as homophobia and so there was like questions about whether this was over the line uh on on on on twitter and i'm stealing from Aaron Ryan here, who was like, no, he's not making fun of gays or calling Benny Johnson, like, you know, trying to be homophobic about him. He's gratefully providing services to help many out. This is generosity from Newson's offices. Well, we love Aaron Ryan. We should note, I should note as a woman, I would go to her for questions of whether to judge whether something is misogynist or not. Is she the authority? Is Aaron Gloria Ryan to decide what's homophobic? I'm just, reading the tweets
Starting point is 00:14:10 I'm going to allow it I think it's borderline I think that how giddy you are about the joke is maybe a little
Starting point is 00:14:18 homophobic Sam is it like I'm just joking I think it's fine I will Benny John I think I'm going to allow it I'm allowing
Starting point is 00:14:28 oh well since Tim's the fucking referee of I am gay jokes that's great to hear let's get too excited about it
Starting point is 00:14:35 I mean the background here right is that that just a few weeks ago and we did a trio video about this. Milo, Ewanopolis had really been on a rampage about Benny being closeted. Benny has made, he denies it. He threatened to sue Milo. As far as I know, that lawsuit hasn't been filed. I'm sure he would have heard about it. And then he also checked in. Maybe you should
Starting point is 00:14:54 check in as a journalist. That would be important to follow up, Will. What the fuck? Well, I mean, that's a great idea. I'll take care of that. I mean, that would be a great lawsuit. Put it on the list of stories to pursue. Jesus. But you know, it's also, Benny makes such a big deal about how he's a straight family man his wife nurse kate is kind of her her nonda plume she's a very um you know very you know she's like a fitness mom type um and you know they they put out statements basically that are like ben he's straight we're gonna sue you if you keep talking about it so that's that's where this all lands in for newsom to pick it up has he i haven't checked but has benny responded to the newsome tweet he is not he's not i mean i think he's focused on finding fraud in califrodia
Starting point is 00:15:35 or whatever he's calling it. California. You mentioned Milo, have we, have we, can we, can we pivot from Milo and Matt Gates versus Dan Bongino? Yeah, sure. Why don't you do the pivot? You do the pivot. Have you seen that yet?
Starting point is 00:15:49 So Dan Bongino is out and he's letting loose. He's had all these, he's been jealous with the trio. Let's just be honest. Dan Vonjino wants to have a right wing version of the trio. That's what he wants. Okay, he just wants to be out there, shit talking. That's what he likes to do. he did not like being the deputy director of the FBI.
Starting point is 00:16:09 That comes with the responsibilities, obligations. You have to tell the truth. It's a lot of things that Bongino is not really keen on. We tell the truth here, but in his version, in the bizarro trio, they don't have to, they don't have to do the truth. So he's out and he's just kind of firing at everybody. He's a little, well, maybe can explain this a little bit better than me, but my understanding is that he's upset at some of the MAGA world
Starting point is 00:16:28 who had critiques of him, particularly Candace and others, who are upset that the FBI was not finding the real killer of Charlie Kirk and you know not figuring out who who stole the 2020 election and all this so bonjino's mad he's out there he's firing off tweets milo tweeted this beautiful piece back at him which we should put up on the screen where he writes there is a place beyond constipation beyond being merely backed up beyond post-surgery scrape it out with a spoon after five days on perkinset welcome to the bonjino rift and then it's a picture of dan bonjino look looking very constipated.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Can I just say Milo is very colorful with his writing. I'll give him that. I was jumping in on it. Ben Gino is also colorful. He goes back at Gates with this. You've always been a dick, by the way, grifting off your daddy like a suckling little doggy. When I first met you, I knew you were a piece of shit. It's written all over that phony face of yours. He went on and he called him a suckling little doggy a second time as well
Starting point is 00:17:31 and said that he was going to blame everything on the Jews. Will, what am I missing here? It feels like it's getting pretty loose out there with the former deputy director of the Federal Bureau of the investigation. Yeah, I mean, look, he's a classic right-wing infighter. He's been held back, as you said, the Vane, the famous Bongino Vane was popping,
Starting point is 00:17:48 and now he's out, and it's sort of like he wasn't really immediately involved in a feud. Clearly, he has a long list of enemies from the past few months, from the Epstein stuff, from people saying, as you said, that he messed up the Charlie Kirk investigation, and now he's just like picking fights left and right.
Starting point is 00:18:03 I mean, it's kind of crazy. I mean, he quit, I think, like, two or three days ago was that his last day at the FBI. And now he's just like, Matt Gates, you sack a shit. You know, I was like, whoa, where's this coming from? So, I mean, he put out a thing saying he has kind of like an infighting manifesto where he said, I'm going after the grifters, the life losers, was his term, the con artist, the black pillars. So he's going to make everyone feel good about MAGA again. Can you define for the audience what a black pillar is? Sure.
Starting point is 00:18:30 So, in, you know, the Matrix, you take the red pill to see the world as it really is. is. But for people who become nihilists who think it's all over, who think there's no point in even being a Trump supporter, that's when you take the black pill. And so he's saying, don't fall out of society. Trump still has hope for us. All right. And he thinks Matt Gates took the black pill or is he? Yeah. I mean, Matt Gates is kind of a, his One American News show. He's gotten more into like anti-Israel stuff, more into conspiracy theories. He's, he's part of that more like Marjorie Taylor Green faction now. Have you been following the story where Matt Gates claims that Israel tried to blackmail his father.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Would you follow that at all, Will? Yes, I have. Yeah, so basically the, the angle there is that there were guys, people may remember, there were guys who were, I believe, indicted for basically having some scheme related to the Matt Gates, the underage sex allegations, that there was this idea that they could, like, somehow get some money out of Matt Gates' father to, I think, raise money to rescue a guy who was held in Venezuela. what? Sorry, I'm kind of like over my skis here, but basically there was
Starting point is 00:19:36 a scheme that was charged. I was going to say, it's so funny. And it's got to be coincidental, but it always is the Jews. And it's like, you just think Israel's got all these schemes going on. They're leveraging so much.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Do they have time to even run a country? It's unreal. Well, every once in a while it's the French. It's mostly the Jews. Everyone's around the French. I was just noticed. because I do think I'm a little worried about Bongino coming back because I don't want to be displaced in the podcast rankings. And I think there's like the podcast rankings right now are very heavy with kind of anti-Trump right-wingerers, the Tucker's, the Candices, the more America firsters types.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Right. And Charlie Kirk's demise, kind of has left a void, I think, for that. And so I pulled it up. And why we're just doing this live, I just, if you guys could just look at your Slack. when I was looking at the rankings I noticed Candace has rebranded you put this up on the screen for everybody it's pretty noteworthy I think sorry that's her actual podcast which one's the old brand
Starting point is 00:20:44 the new one is the white and black yeah here we go we have it on the screen and before she was kind of like she was kind of like fresh and flirty Candace you know we got the cursive we get the purple and now it's very stark very stark we're going in our
Starting point is 00:21:01 era. You know, we're doing our own research. A little bit of a Brigitte McCrone look there. A little bit of a Brigitte McCrone, a little severe, you know. All right, good for her. She's doing very well in the rankings, although, Will, you say things are maybe coming apart at the seams for her? Yeah, so this is the upcoming false flag, but the short of it is basically Candace, some of her claims about the Charlie Kirk assassination.
Starting point is 00:21:26 I think she brought out this witness, this guy named Mitch Snow, who has a very I would say unsavory past involving a lot of criminal allegations, a lot of questions about his honesty. He most recently said his dad was the Zodiac killer. And so, you know, even some of Candace's sort of conspiracy theory underlings are saying, I don't know about this one, Candace. His big claim is that he saw Erica Kirk at a military base before the assassination having a conversation, you know, with some military intelligence guys. U.S. military or Israel?
Starting point is 00:21:55 Well, the French foreign legion. Actually, really is this. So I got a haircut today. And my barber said, she said, oh, you know, I don't, well, thank you. She said, she said, I don't like Trump, you know, you work with the bulwark, whatever. And then she goes, but what do you think about that, Candace Owens? I kind of think she's on to something there with her Charlie Kirk stuff. And so that's, that's sort of a field report for you.
Starting point is 00:22:18 And I said, oh, yeah. I'm telling you this happens all the time. People are telling me that I'm crazy, like, this is, this happens all the time. It's a real problem out there. The left wing to Candace Pipeline is a real problem. And when I was at CrookedCon, I was saying to this to Hassan Piker in the back. And I was like, you have to, like, this is your obligation to go after her harder than you go after the NeoLibs. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Because like your fans are jumping the horseshoe. And it's very common. I hear it a lot anecdotally. Wasn't the big uns like Candace made or one of the smart things she did was that she started doing all that commentary on the case involving the like Boston area policemen who was kids. and the wife was, I forget what it was, but like, and it just got her a lot of crossover appeal to Normie moms who were super into that case and then suddenly they were hooked. Yeah, Candace has gotten into, it's a lot of like entertainment stuff like the Blake lively Justin Baldoni lawsuit.
Starting point is 00:23:13 She's done a lot of these kind of like hot button true crime cases as well. Oh, that was the one. It was the lively Justin Baldoni one where she just got, everyone sort of gravitated towards her coverage of that. We got to find something like that for you, Tim. Like, we need a true crime story that you just obsess over. I'm not really a true crime girly But maybe we could find something
Starting point is 00:23:32 Like yeah it's just not really my cup of tea All right, fair enough But I agree with you though It's not a bad idea With some crossover appeal People who are watching this If you have ideas for Tim Put them in the comments
Starting point is 00:23:44 Yeah some cultural crossover ideas Like for example Our producer Matt asked us to talk about Tricia Paitas I don't know who that person is And I don't want to know Okay So I'm trying
Starting point is 00:23:53 Like we're going to find something A little more boycoded for me to care about like culturally boycoded so hopefully that could work um all right should we talk what do you want to next no only fans can we do that i don't know what that is so you don't know what only fans are okay great i'm going to introduce it to the world of only fans and i'm aware what only fans is but i don't know why it's relevant to our to our trio well because what's in the popery basically there's a new article out from the financial times i'm not going to read their version i'm going to read the new york post uh aggregated version of their
Starting point is 00:24:26 supporting because their lead sentence is much better than the financial times. It goes like this. It's a story about how OnlyFam models and social media influencers are claiming half of these coveted US visas that are meant for artists and movie stars. The lead is this. They came here with nothing but the clothes off their backs. That's good. I give that an A.
Starting point is 00:24:51 That's pretty good. So basically a bunch of OnlyFans models are getting. getting these visas that like John Lennon got, they're the O-1B visas. And I don't know what to make of this. I guess this is the new form of art. But it's apparently a thing where if you like are willing to engage in softcore porn, you can get some citizenship in this country.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Do we have pictures of them? Are they all white with regrets? Is that the deal? No, because first of all, they're not, there's a Mexican boy, the one in the post picture and the post article is a Mexican-born only fans model, Yannette Garcia.
Starting point is 00:25:26 uh so interesting i suppose from the trump perspective and then there's another one canadian born isha sophie uh who is part of the florida bopp house i had to look oh yeah i'm not been aware of the florida bobb house yeah that that's like gen jenzy slang for like a joppa is like gen z slang for like a like a ho sam if you didn't know um so so why are we important why what is the reason why are they getting the v The only fans models? Well, they're unique talents. I mean, I do think it's worth noting here that, I mean, like, obviously a big part of the Trump base is like the trad people.
Starting point is 00:26:07 You know, I listen to when I listen to right wing podcasts, there's a lot of talk about like they have ad reads for apps that help you quit watching porn, stuff like that. And so I do think there's a little ideological class here. Yeah, I guess I'll just say this, you know, in trying to formulate an opinion about this on the fly. But as somebody who's pro-immigration, when I hear a lot from the anti-immigrant, on the right is that like that it's offensive to say that, you know, we need to import people to do jobs that Americans don't want to do because if you paid Americans a fair wage, they'd be willing to do these jobs. Americans would pick fruit, you know, if it wasn't for the low wage immigrants that we bring in. And, you know, so that is part of the America first thing,
Starting point is 00:26:51 right? That we don't, there's no need for economic immigrants because we, us, in America here, we have enough homegrown talent. And I reject that across, you know, most examples. There are certainly some examples, but most of the time really do, it is valuable to import foreign labor. In this case, I think I would say, I feel like we have a fill of only fans models here,
Starting point is 00:27:15 and a potential talent there, potential willingness to participate in that work. It doesn't feel like that we have a shortage of only fans, aspiring individuals in our country. So you're against the, you're against the issuance of these visas, is what you're saying. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:27:34 I want, I want homegrown American only fans models to be able to maximize their wages. They don't need them to be competing against, you know, only fans models from Mauritania. They're taking spots in the Bob House that could go to Americans. That's a really good point.
Starting point is 00:27:52 We have this, this glut of affordable housing. and here we are importing people to the Bop House. While I'm finding my inner immigration restrictionist, I'd like to take us to the other topic. I would bring up, which is that we have to deport Nikki Minaj. I don't accept anymore. If the Democrats get back in charge, JVL wants to take down the East Wing,
Starting point is 00:28:16 I want to deport Nikki Minaj. On day one, she can go home to Trinidad and Tobago and get in line and come back to the country. you know, after, you know, people that have been coming the right way because Nikki Minaj said a couple years ago that she was brought here when she was five. That's a story that's very common that I'm very sympathetic to. But I become less sympathetic to it when you get up on stage with Erica Kirk
Starting point is 00:28:44 and start making fun of gays and trans people, start talking about the importance of building the wall and talk about how great Donald Trump 2.0 is and how, you know, what do we call the Nicki Minaj fans? Oh, man, I'm the gay. I should know this. They are the. Barbbs.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Yeah, thank you. Trying to, she's out there trying to get the barbs to become MAGA Republicans. I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. And I'm sorry, under the new rules that her new love, Donald Trump, has put in place, someone that was brought here and there five from Trinidad and Tobago must go back to that country and get in line. That's why is she, why is she doing this? What are the theories? I've seen some sort of, I don't know, conspiracies around her. Well, her husband,
Starting point is 00:29:39 yeah, her husband does have some legal issues. So, yeah, you know, she has trying to get some sort of preemptive pardon. So she has two relatives who, as to mention, have, I believe, sort of sex, sexual related issues in terms of convictions or charges. But, those are both state charges. And so I, and I'm not exactly sure what she's, what she's up to here. I mean, perhaps there is some, you know, she just sees it as perhaps advantageous to buddy up with the Trump administration. I mean, I felt like they were really excited to have her at the Turning Point Convention. I thought it was a bit of a disaster when she praised J.D. Vance for being a real assassin to Erica Kirk. And I go, oh, geez, oops. So, you know, I mean, but they're obviously very excited. They see her as like the, you know, the future of, of like, being a cool Republican. Is this hurting her with their fans? I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:30:26 The barbs? The barbs are, I think, the stupidest of the pop culture, you know, pop music, early fans. So it's unclear to me whether they're going to have strong feelings about this. I mean, like you have higher tastes, you know, like the little monsters, you know, are out there. Like they've got a little more refined palette, you know, the Beehive. They've got a little bit more of a refined palette. The barbs not as good. And the barbs are really going to be bad when Gavin Newsom gets in there,
Starting point is 00:30:57 and President Newsom kicks Nikki Minaj out of our fucking country, okay? Go back to Trinidad and Tobago, fill out the forms, get in line, and maybe we'll let you back in for a tour. I don't know. Maybe a travel visa, a limited travel visa for a Florida tour, maybe. Maybe she gets one of those, yeah, 01B visas. Okay, I think we've covered a lot. that's that's about my fill of uh you know bullshit okay for today that's fine love you guys
Starting point is 00:31:27 though thank you so much i appreciate you uh opening my eyes to the ridicule i'm getting online tim anytime i'm monitoring your mentions i've got uh i've got little alerts i was like i said this kind of AI thing like anytime like the hate at sam reaches a certain level claude sends me a note so i can enjoy it i was wondering why you called this meeting of the trio but now i understand what the reason was all right well thanks so much buddy appreciate it everyone thanks for watching subscribe to the bulwark where you can get great bulwark takes like this hopefully we can do this soon again with the two of us three of us i should say take care guys

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