Bulwark Takes - The Laura Loomer / MTG / Arby’s Scandal That No One Asked For

Episode Date: August 12, 2025

Tim Miller, Sam Stein and Will Sommer take on Laura Loomer’s outrageous deposition — complete with roast beef insults, Trump affair rumors, and her vicious feud with Marjorie Taylor Greene. Do NOT miss Sam’s dramatic reading!

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to speak to an advisor free of charge. Hey, guys, Sam Stein, managing enter at the Bullwark. I am back with Tim Miller and Will Summer. Apparently, the last video the three of us did together was not too depraved that they decided to bring us back to talk about something. I honestly am a little bit nervous to discuss because it's even more depraved. They're going to get into... They're calling us the fingering trio now out there. Is that what they're calling us?

Yeah. Okay. I want to work on that. Yeah, I think that. band name is either taken or no one wants it. Oh, great. Let's tell the viewers to subscribe to the feed, where they can get more from the fingering trio and including this coming story on Laura Lumer, her deposition involving Bill Maher and a truly grotesque line of inquiry involving Marjorie Taylor Green. Let's get right into it. All right, well, set us up. What is

the situation? Why is Laura Lumer sitting for a deposition? Sure. So if people may remember last year, there's a point where Trump was hanging out a lot with Laura Loomer. She was on the plane sometimes during the campaign. And Bill Maher went on his show and said, maybe they're sleeping together. Maybe he's cheating on Melania with Laura Lumer. Who's Trump fucking? And it's not Melania. I think we may have our answer this week.

I think it might be Laura Lumer. I'm just saying. And so she claims that this created all this trouble. She says she was banned from the plane. And so she sued him in October. And so now it's gotten to the point where she's getting deposed. And somewhat inexplicably, her lawyers now just recently a few weeks ago, basically broke the rules of the judge by putting the whole deposition into the court record, even though it's like pretty embarrassing and includes a lot of confidential details that they wanted to keep private. It's really inexplicable, but it's out there now.

Have they explained why that happened? I think they really want to get Bill Maher's deposition out there because I think like, look, Bill Maher is a guy who is known to kind of stick his foot in his mouth at time. I you know he he he he recently said Billy Joel told Billy Joel he wants to write a song I think basically reading between the lines about being a pedophile so I think basically I have to defend Bill Marr's honor Bill was just telling Billy Joel and just in generally pitching songs to Billy Joel not not something I would do but I don't really like Billy Joel so anyway different different strokes for different folks but Bill Marr the pitch was kind of like I want to do a song about how it's unfit fair to impugn an older man who falls in love with a younger woman. I don't have it in front of me. And so, you know, God bless him. I think we all know where he's going with that. I don't think it was pedophilia.

I think it was, you know, just kind of the Bill Oove that he's unapologetic about. So that's my defense. And this is not a take on Bill Maher. This is a take on Laura Loomer. So we're going to keep it going. So she sits down for this deposition. They're talking a bit about, you know, a bunch of things. Among them is just sort of what she feels like was cost by Bill Marley, the cost she endured.

And, Tim, I'm going to come to you here because you've been in this world. You probably at one point had visions of being a White House press secretary. I think you wrote about it. She thought she could have been Donald Trump's version of Jen Saki or Korean Jean-Pierre. No question. Stranger things have happened. I mean, they just picked up a guy to make him the commissioner of labor statistics who I think previously was doing like poo drawings on a piece of paper that said Mr. Trump great. So, you know, and it's not a competitive set, really, getting into the Trump administration.

So Laura, I don't know if, I think Laura's got a lot of skills. I don't know if White House Press Secretary was in her future. I don't, by the way, as I wrote, I don't know that it was in my future, it was a dream, but as people who have come to know me on YouTube, I don't really have a good poker face, which is not a great skill set for a press secretary, so I don't think it was in my path either. So I don't think either me or Laura were going there. But her claim in this deposition, I guess, is that had Bill not impugned her by suggesting she's sleeping with Trump, I have thoughts on that as well, she would have been on this path to White House press secretary to then a show on Fox. I guess the Dana Perino model maybe I would have gone with instead of Jen Saki and then to boards

who knows she could have run the truck Yeah that was nice what she said Yeah she basically says like you know I would cash in you know I'm going to get on these boards I'll get a foundation I'll get a book deal I'll get a cable news show

And this is this was all cost to her supposedly by by Bill's kind of offhanded remark I do love the fact that she's like I would have absolutely played the insider game and like you know reaped as many rewards from it as possible if I had the opportunity to it like not hiding it I was going to go through that revolving door and I was going to go through it well so to wait you wanted to you wanted to add something about I did well so just

again I know you said this wasn't a Bill Maher take but he is kind of central to the story Bill makes the joke about how she's sleeping in throat he wasn't the only one this was out there I'll just say and it's important to pull back the curtain here I have many people who have reached out to me with that same theory or idea that Laura Lumer was sleeping with Donald Trump. And maybe it's the fact that Laura Lumer did come to my defense when Carrie Lake attacked me at a Phoenix bar and de-escalated. Maybe I'm a little more sympathetic to her than I should otherwise be. I don't know. I do appreciate her de-escalation there.

But I think here's what I think. I've spent probably too much brainpower on this. I don't think Donald Trump's dick works anymore, I guess, is what I'm saying. I don't, I don't think his dick works. And I feel like if it did, we would know about it. Sorry, what? I mean, he's not good at secrets. He's not good at secrets.

He has a decades-long career of sexual harassment and misconduct and assault. And he's on audio talking about how he just goes up to women, he kisses them, and he grabs them. And I found it interesting that since becoming president, you don't really hear stories like that. And I find it to be clear, you think the president of the United States. Dick doesn't work. I know. But you think that he in a universe where his dick did work, you think Donald Trump would be outwardly bragging about his dick working? I just think we would hear from women that are talking about Trump being Trump.

I just don't think a dog changes his tricks, you know? like he's an old dog I'm going to have to disagree with this one. Okay, so let me just go back to the theory. The theory of the case being offered by the Laura Lumer and Donald Trump are having an affair of people is that Donald Trump becomes the most powerful man

in the world in the 2016. He has a lifetime record of just being a total hound dog, like a debauched hound dog at best. It's the nicest thing you can say about his treatment of women. And he gets in there, he gets in the lighthouse. Melania's gone a lot. He's alone.

and the one person he is an affair with is Laura Lumer? That's the story. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying I don't think even if I'm not buying it. That's all I'm saying. I'm on Laura Lumer's side of it. I don't think there should be a defamation suit on this, but just on the merits of the story,

I'm not buying that story. You're going to have to sell me on a different, better conspiracy than this. This is why they call us the fingering trio. We will agree to disagree on that one. What's to think about for sure. I definitely might not end up. Well, you got the logic pattern there.

It didn't work for you. No. We're going to move on because there's parts of this transcript of the deposition that I just want to read and get reactions to. Because they're going back and forth. And as Will notes in his piece, which people should read, several pages of the deposition are taken up by Lumer's September, 2024, claim that her arch enemy, representative Marjor Taylor Green. has Arby's in her pants. I'm not going to be on nicotives. First of all, can you?

The roast beef burglar. We're going to get to that. Well, why are they arch enemies? Can you just set the stage before I try to read this transcript without dying? I mean, briefly, this is like a years-long feud, but basically, like, I think fundamentally Laura just, like, really hates other conservative women. I mean, I think, like, the nastiness she displays towards them is, like, a pretty unique part of her personality.

But basically, I think she doesn't like that there's this other prominent. conservative woman also milo eunopolis at one point worked for marjor taylor green and laura and milo have had a very bitter falling out and so i think marjorie kind of like was added on to that feud i'm sorry i must interject here really briefly uh since you mentioned milo um that after later in the evening after i had another drink at this mega cocktail hour where i was where i was accosted by carey lake when i asked laura i went up to her a little later and i was like why did you intervene on my behalf and she said there's another homosexual

at this party I have my sights on and then ended up she ended up getting up in Milo's grill and like they started screaming at each other in a different corner of I'm sorry, what does that mean? She can only go, she has to even the ledger I didn't ask any follow

questions. If I'm going to go after one homo I got to protect the other homo I didn't ask any follow-ups. I wasn't going to mention it but since Milo came up I felt like it was important context. All right, I'm going to try to get through this. I don't know how far I'm going to get. I'm going to just read from the piece here. Lumer was referencing Marjorie Taylor Green's alleged affair with a man who once dressed up as a street fighter character. This is all real, okay? It's clear that Lumer, real rights, was making a pejorative reference when she said

Arby's in your pants, popularly right to the anatomy of promiscuous women, what Tim was discussing. I don't discuss anything. I call her the roast beef burglary, like the hamburgler. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, fair enough. Yeah, yeah, fair enough. All right. But in the deposition, Lumer apparently couldn't admit that was her reference point. She instead pretended that she meant green actually puts Arby's Ropee's.

Should Will read the transcript? We might have to read the transcript. Well, could you read the transcript for us? No, yeah, yeah, let's see how far I can. Arby's Roofbee sandwiches in her paper. pants. Here's just a small portion of the roast beef exchange. Bulger. This is the HBO lawyer. So what is your basis for saying? I think Will should do it. All right, all right, all right. Real quick. Here, let me put this out. Wait, I got it. So what is the basis for SIG she had Arby's in her pants?

Lumer, because I know she likes to eat at Arby's. Bullger. And she likes to put it in her pants. You know that? Lumer. Yeah. Bulger. She put it. She puts Arby's in her pants? Lumer. Yeah, she does. Bulger. Okay. If I asked Marjor Taylor Green, she would tell you that she puts Arby's in her pants?

Lumer. It's my best belief that she would tell you that. Yes. Boulger. Okay. Are you making a derogatory comment about her sex life by talking about Arby's in her pants? This is a fucking court transcript. Lumer, no, I'm talking about Arby's sandwiches.

I'm talking about Arby's. I'm a very direct person. If I was making a derogatory comment, I would have said it. If I was making a derogatory comment, I would have called it a double beef and cheddar. This is the best part, as Will writes, not helping her case. Lumer tweeted the roast beef insult again today. That would be Monday asking Green's boyfriend, right wing reporter Brian Glenn, quote, How does it feel to eat Arby's every day?

Oh, my God. What the hell is wrong? I don't know. I don't understand. Could you explain the reference to me there? Why would that, why would that be sexual? Maybe Brian Glenn also likes the curly fries. Go to Urban Dictionary, you know?

I mean, it is really crazy that she's doing this thing about, you know, acting like the sandwiches in the pants. And then just say, but, you know, there's no greater meaning here. I, you know, that's all I can say about it. And the lawyer at one point is just like, like, you're a coward. Like, why won't you just say what you mean? And Laura, like, what? You know, it gets very tense. I mean, she literally is saying she stuffs an Arby's sandwich in her pants.

It makes no sense at all. What was the last time you had Arby's, Stan? You know, I'm not an Arby's guy. I probably've had it once or twice. What's their tagline? You know, something to me. we know I forget what it is called but it we got we got we got the we got the we got the at one point in the transcripts Laura's lawyer just says where's the meat

you know kind of is joking around um all right I was alive anybody's from St. Louis out there a lion's choice is the place to go if you're actually looking for a roast beef sandwich in the real sense not in the Brian Glenn going out to lunch with his girlfriend sense uh Lumer back to her um she as well notes is this is like maybe the grossest she's gone, but it's not like totally out of character. She at one point declared that Illinois governor J.V. Pritzker wanted to flash his penis at women. And yet here she is at the like height of her powers, arguably, you know, taking more scalps than anyone in the industry than the journalism industry. How do you, how do you reckon that,

well? You know, I think it's, how do I reckon it? I don't know, we live in hell. The, you know, I mean, as you said, I mean, this can come off as very like, like, why, why are we talking about this, you know, person who's the roast beef and blah, blah, blah, but I mean, I think it heightens and sort of underlines the way the government has run now where you have someone like this who she, just in the past two weeks, she got the guy who's in charge of vaccines at the FDA fired, though now he's back. She got the top lawyer at the NSA fired, you know, and now the big thing is she's going after this Medal of Honor winner who got his leg nearly blown off. he tackled a suicide bomber and she said well this guy spoke uh you know at the democratic convention the army should basically blacklist this guy secretary army is she also going after the secretary of the army right now yeah because he gave this guy the award yeah it's insane yeah it's a lot of scalps and i mean archie tail green is our own power as well and seeing a lot of strange new respect out there in the world for margitle green though she was all yeah did you not

do the do we not do the tweet where she called her a jezebel yesterday didn't that oh can we do that one i'm going to pull that one up uh eras lumer tweeting yesterday. I'm going to read it. I wish at Rep. M.T.G. That'd be Marjor Tilly Green. Got on her knees for her Lord and Savior. As much as she got on her knees

for men who aren't her husband. Just another fake Christian. Can you call yourself a Christian when your mouth is full? Jesus fucking Craig. When your mouth is full of other men's cock? Question mark. I may be. Jewish, but at least I'm not a Jezebel.

I want to hear people, Sam. Well, is he Jewish? Marjorie as a congresswoman has kind of, I think probably kind of a pretty mild reply from MTV. She replied, she has no, Laura Lumer officially attacks those of us who are President Trump's most loyal, original mega supporter. She has no long-term relationships because she psychotically turns on everyone. Laura Lumer is the most unstable person and worst liability to ever walk into the Oval Office.

What about Lumer's tweets suggest instability? I think that's interesting. And worst ever, the Ovasse, that means worse than anyone in the Biden crime family, quote unquote, you know. Worse than, I don't know, bill to Bill Ares ever like it. Worse than anybody.

MTG. It's getting, getting sense. There is a little bit of strange new respect for MTG. suppose. Not in my quarters, but out there. She does definitely come off. I think it's a little more respectable here. Well, that and the Gaza stuff is kind of interesting turn for her too. So I'm not saying she's a liberal hero, anything, but very interesting times. All right, anyone, I was going to make Will do this segment while eating Arby's, but he thought that was grotesque. So I don't think we got some curly fries instead of the roast beef and the curly fries are kind of nice. Fine, but I think that's

not the point. You're not a curly fries, man? I think you're missing the point here. Oh, okay. Well, I'm going, so I don't know. Do you really not know what she was referring to? You must. I mean, you don't know what, wait, hold on.

You don't know. I assume that she had a roast beef, big beef and cheddar in her pants. And it's like, I can't tell if you're serious. Laura, Laura did testify under oath that it was about sandwich. I need to know. I need to know. I'm not. Okay.

I know. I know. I don't know. All right, folks. If you're an Arby's corporate rep who's happening to be watching this and you're interested in just sponsoring some content and advertising, I can put you in touch with the right person at the bulwark and we can set up an exchange here. And if not, I totally understand.

I don't know if I would want to be advertising off of this stuff anyway. Reliance choice. We'll take your advertising. Lean into it. Why not? Will, any final thoughts or you just want to leave it there? It's a lot to take in. But, you know, this lawsuit is ongoing.

And I think there's more. revelations ahead. Great. Oh, I can't wait. Perhaps more depositions. We'll see. All right, Tim, Will, thanks so much, Arby's.

Thanks a bunch. Lumer. Keep it coming. MTG. What is with the balloons? Thanks for the balloons. All right. That's it for us.

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