Bulwark Takes - The Trio Breaks Down the Trad Right’s Freakiest Scandal Yet

Episode Date: February 6, 2026

Tim Miller, Sam Stein, and Will Sommer give their takes on the chaotic scandal surrounding far-right influencer Elijah Schaefer. After disappearing from his online show, Schaefer reemerged with a black eye, paranoid Rumble rants, and a series of increasingly bizarre videos, including wandering through a flooded hotel. The fallout has pulled in secret audio recordings, trad Catholic influencer drama, Milo Yiannopoulos, online feuds, and renewed scrutiny of Schaefer’s self-styled role as a “family values” enforcer on the right as he faces a sex scandal.Read more from Will's reporting: https://www.thebulwark.com/p/shocking-sex-scandal-rocks-trad-right-elijah-schaffer-sarah-stock

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That's Sam Cite. He's a managing editor. Will Summer writes the false flag newsletter. And the recent false flag newsletter is the best one in a minute. They're all good. It is titillating. It is exactly the type of newsletter that this video trio is meant for. The title is a shocking sex scandal rocks the trad right.

Before the article even dropped, I'd already received a text for a prominent MAGA influencer. saying when is the trio going to comment on the Elijah Schaefer scandal? So the MAG influencers are watching and waiting part commentary. I do believe one of the characters in this story was also a character in the original fingering story that was the impetus for this very show. So there's a lot here. It should be a fan favorite. That's my intro.

That's my tease for everybody. I hope you're ready. I hope you're, you know, go get your popcorn, you know, go get a little glass of white wine, whatever it is you like to do when you watch the trio. And let's get going. Will, tell us about the shocking sex scandal. All right, this is a big players. Let's start with the key players. Okay, here are our key players. We've got Elijah Schaefer, who's sort of a dissolute far-right commentator. He used to be Glenn Beck's protégé sort of, he got famous for like going to the riots around George Floyd and, you know, people with. scuffle with him. And then he had sort of a fall from grace. And so now he reinvented himself as this Christian family man. He's always saying, you know, you loseers on the right. You got to get married, you know, whatever. Here's my beautiful family. Oh, I love God so much. And then, you know, let's see how that goes. And then our other character is Sarah Stock, who works for Elijah at his new operation, which is called RIF TV. People may remember her, number one, because she was in the

Sam Cedar Jubilee video. She's in a lot of these Jubilee YouTube debate videos. And she's kind of like, you know, there's like the mag of people and then they're like, oh, they got the racist lady. Like, they're really like, she's just like, well, it should be only white people in America. And you go, oh. And so that is kind of over the past year propelled her. She became like a trad, traditional sort of Catholic influencer.

She was really touting her marriage. And then also I would say, as you said, she's famous in our world, in the trio world, because after she got engaged, she posted a picture of the wedding ring and a lot of other right wing women found the diamond almost comically small. And then this sort of provoked a lot of...

I guess I'll just say cattyness about it. Yeah. And then remind me how does that relate to the fingering again and not refresh me on that? Yes. Because various, these women started fighting with each other. And one who was defending the ring, accused another woman.

She said, you know, well, you don't fucking know about trad values and getting married. Because you got, you know, this sex act happened to you in the lobby at the TPSA. You can say fingering. You can say fingering. With a fingering, you know. Got it.

So Sarah stuck. I just think it's important because we don't, because there's some licentious material ahead, but we don't want to, you know. We don't want to impugn anyone with false accusations. And so, because I got, I got the character's picture. She was not involved in the fingering. Her only relationship was that the person that got fingered was in a tip with her online. Yes, exactly.

Got it. Over the size of her wedding. Well, good thing her. husband didn't throw out more cash for that bigger wedding wing, it turns out. All right. Sam, I guess before Will goes further, you've read the whole newsletter. What was your, what was, you know, do you have any editing notes? What was your big takeaway?

There's so many different twists and turns to this story. We're dealing with multiple layers of scandal and intrigue, accusations of infidelity, rumors of suicide. Milo makes a very strong appearance, a shifty character in his own right. secret recordings affairs and then one semi-groydle shot that I almost will I will say lied in his draft will I think God he's got I should also say

now before we get into all the twists and turns that wait don't you want to know how we lied we'll find out we'll get to it I know I know it's related to the thought pick everybody there's a thought pick coming at the end and that there was a lie related to that so it's just a little teaser but the other element of this in the twist and turns you didn't mention. I had messaged Will a couple days ago

and said that I saw an alarming tweet from someone I followed who said they were worried that Elijah Schaefer, the main character here, had murdered his family. And spoiler, he is not. He is not. But that is also part of the twist and turns. There were some people wondering if he had committed,

what's wife aside? I think they call it like family annihilation these days. Family annihilation. Is that the technical term? One more thing. before we get through this to what we'll walk us through that what happened. Elijah, I just don't want to understate it because I've followed him for a minute. Like, he is on the noxious, disgusting edge of like right wing world. You know, like, I mean, he offers the type of material that, like,

they might even look askance at times on Bannon's War. Like, I mean, it is, he is like, over. inadvertently bigoted racist, like fucking hateful. And like in some ways, I find him kind of interesting and why I follow him because like he's not afraid to go after the Trump administration, but like from the right. Like they're, you know, they're not doing enough in his view in the areas where I would say most of us would think they're doing too much, such as deportations. So anyway, well. Yeah, he's like, just to build on that, he's sort of like a Nick Fuentes type guy. but, you know, scruffier and sort of more, you know, cruder. And, you know, like, Nick Fuentes is sort of like, okay, like, you know, wipe your shoes when you come in, Elijah.

You know, don't mess up the place. So, you know, this story begins. Elijah disappeared a month ago from his online show. Things seem to not be looking good. A lot of people were leaving, a lot of staff, we're dropping off the website. And then he returns last week. And he says, you know, this show is going to be about how much I don't like Indians. I don't like Muslims.

But first, people are out to kill me. And he goes on this whole rant, you know, for one thing, Cash Patel's girlfriend is suing Elijah for saying she's a Mossad agent. But he claims it goes beyond that, that people are trying to kill him. And then he goes in kind of this, sort of like custody dispute rant. At the time, he did, he started divorcing his wife in late January. But he had not told anyone this. And he kind of starts ranting.

And he's like, Mama bear, Mama bear. What about dad? Who cares about dad? Mama bear, mom bear. Fuck you. What about dad? What about dad? And it's this whole thing.

And then, I mean, it was looking grim, I guess. And then, you know, over the weekend. And what platform is this on? Is this like on a, is that on Rumble? Is he twitching this? This is on Rumble. Yeah. This is not on YouTube.

This is sort of the back out. And sorry, Mama Bear is supposed to be his wife. His wife. Yes, that people are saying, you know, I think he feels that in the conservative movement, I guess he's calling back to like Sarah Palin or whatever, you know, where it's like, you know, with the mama bears. At the time of this return video after he disappeared, this. was when he did come back with a permanent black eye, right? Is that right? Yes, he came back and he said,

he looked really red. He's talked before about having a drinking problem that he claimed to have sort of gotten ahead of. And then he said, I have this permanent black eye from all the stress I'm under. What is a permanent black eye? I don't know if he's getting just every week by, you know, I think it's kind of like the Trump hand situation. You know, it's like you shake too many hands. You know, you have too many women smacking you across the face. And you just, It just never goes away. Like once you have, you know, if that ring hits you across the face enough times, you know, it becomes permanent.

Sure. Okay. Sorry. Well, gone. So, I mean, he looks like a guy on the verge of a nervous breakdown. I mean, it looks pretty grim. He's saying, you know, what I've been through in the past month, you know, lesser men, if they had just a fraction of it, they would take their own lives.

I'm hanging on by a thread here. So I was like watching this. I was like, oh, boy. And then on Sunday, Monday, he posts a truly bizarre video of himself wandering through a flooding hotel. My feet are wet. And then we got some flooding, I guess. Okay, it's falling on me. Like, it's almost like, like, we're seeing his dreams or something. Like, it's like a flooding hotel and he's just like, where am I? What's happening? It felt, I watched the video. It felt very shining like. I couldn't tell what the hotel was, but all the floors are just completely

soaked and he's walking by himself. And he's just like sitting there in the water, basically. It's like, get out of it. And he stumbles upon a vending machine. What even is going on? What even is going on, right? There's a thing, okay? This I can like take a seat and actually rest. But then I have some what? Some diet, Dr. Pepper? Okay. So where is this? Like, where is that happening? We don't know. I mean, he's in Florida. He said he's now gone to Virginia. He lives in Florida. He said he's gone to Virginia to work with the FBI in some sort of scheme. But basically that's where we are. I thought the FBI was trying to kill him. well you know maybe there's different factions here the other thing i should say is just sort of one more elijah thing he got on my radar a few months ago because he had this really expensive sports car i think

a BMW but it was like a really souped up BMW that he said was stolen and he said well you know whatever i have insurance oh wait my insurance lapsed and he had gotten missed all these notices about not paying his insurance and he said someone close to me must have been stealing these notices uh and then more recently he claimed you know it was recovered but the FBI or the police said someone close to me betrayed me to these criminals. And so basically he's starting to, in a way that's, I think, a little unnerving, starting to look, is he looking at his family? Is he looking at his staff as betraying him? So you start to get a little conspiratorial. You get to start to get a little paranoid. Okay. Where in the story with his disappearance,

then he returns with the permanent black eye, then you have the shining flood in the hotel, at what point in the story are people worried that he might have murdered his family? What was what's happening there. So on Tuesday, he posts various things like my kids and my wife have gone missing. I don't know where they are. You know, sinister forces are out to get me. I think there was something about someone planting drugs on him. And so people start to think, because he had talked just so intensely about these kind

of paranoid delusions. And it's like, is he laying the groundwork for some sort of alibi? He's trying to set something up. And, you know, as far as we know, they are fine. But people started on the right, started posting, like, can someone check? on Elijah's family because he just seems to be going nuts. We do have proof of life, though. Well, from Milo Uonopoulos, yes.

We're going to get to get up to Milo thing in a second. Just one with a quick aside. Your story takes an interesting, aside that I think is very poor editing for Sam because it peaked my interest and I wanted a little more. And so maybe we could get it here, which is you kind of just deadpan as you do throw in. There's this other influencer, I don't know, who I'd never heard of. who also, his wife has also gone missing and has never been fast.

This was a great line. This was crazy. He basically said that Elijah wasn't smart enough to kill his family. Wink, wink, wink. No, he asked, do you think he's smart enough to get away with it? So who is that? What's happening there? This is a guy,

I think he's Quebecois. And his name is Jean-François Garpe. And this is a guy who was like a pretty big deal in this world in like 2018. And so this is sort of like, where Nick Fuentes was like swimming and and Elijah too. I mean these guys were kind of like these middling YouTube figures and and JF or John Francois also I should add is in the Epstein files because Epstein sent John Francois $25,000 I think to start his YouTube channel. But anyways, I think two years ago JF's wife went missing and he sort of said yeah my wife asked me to take her to

this highway and drop her off. And then I was like, well, she's always going on crazy adventures. I mean, it seems like it's as much as I don't think it's true. And then he said, and then I guess we never saw her again. So I, you know, a couple, I've just reported it to the police. But who's to say? A lot of Canadian true crime YouTubers are really into this case. And more recently, he has started every so often he posts like his fans called his wife a potato because they didn't think she was that smart. And so he'll post like making French fries with the potato. Like I've got a lot of experience chopping up potatoes or in this case he said sort of like i wonder if my old buddy elijah can pull off killing his family and getting away with it imagine being that fucked in the head that

you tweet these jokes you have to have real problems welcome to the canadian true crime audience who on which found us uh based on that backstory okay so now well i think that hold on i think that's a fair criticism in my editing we could have lingered a little bit more on this character but maybe we sort of severed off for a secondary newsletter next week. I would read an entire newsletter on John Francois. There seems to be enough material there certainly. Okay, so I just want to, for people who are trying to follow us, so we can take us back to where we are.

So he disappears, Elijah, goes away for a while, comes back with the black eye. Permanent. Yeah, there's the flood in the hotel. Family is then missing as well for a while. and now we get to earlier in this week when we're trying to figure out what happened to the family, what is happening here, what is behind this story,

and that's where Milo Yanopoulos, the ex-homosexual, emerges. That's right. And I actually don't know where he stands on the gay thing these days. But so basically... Was he back to being homo? I think he's leaving it a little like ambiguous, you know, and I can relate my own personal experiences here. A few days ago,

With ex-homosexuality? No. With John Frenchwale? Some various claims about Elijah and the state of his marriage and a recording of the Sarah Stockwoman movie mentioned talking about having some kind of sexual encounter with Elijah started circulating on the right. And they were sent to me. And this is the kind of thing that I look at seriously. And I say, what can this tell us about the larger state of right wing media? and this is going to take weeks to nail down.

And Milo gets it and he goes, whatever, and he puts it up on Twitter. And so what happens then is people go crazy. Wait, wait, we need to pause for a second. We need to pause for a second. Because we're going very fast through a very critical juncture. I think people need to appreciate. Someone is spreading privately recorded audio, private audio recordings of Sarah talking about Elijah or seeming to talk about Elijah, referencing potentially an affair with Elijah.

And, like, obviously, like, I deeply regret that, but also, like, I'm not a slut. Like, I mean, that's, like, a horrible thing, but it's not, like, I really am, like, sleeping around or have been, so. Yeah, I mean, you don't, you don't have to defend yourself for me. Yeah, I know, but I'm just saying, like, it's kind of just, like, not even true for, like, anyone who knows me, so. Yeah, I mean, you just had a fling with a lie. and that's, I don't know, I guess he got upset about it. He's just exaggerating, yeah. Someone is spreading this around to multiple people.

Do we have a sense of the motivation? I mean, reveal what you can, without compromising your source, but do you know the motive? Can you say something about the motivation? I can't. I mean, it's really unclear to me. I mean, what I would say broadly is that Elijah is one of the most reviled figures within right-wing media, and I think has antagonized many, many people.

Yes, it has made many enemies in the past five years, six years. And so I think it would be a long list of culprits, perhaps. And so in these recordings only get, you only start seeing them push privately after Elijah comes on and has a nervous breakdown and there's questions about his mental stability. That's when it's. Yes. And as it all kind of in the past week or so starts really falling out. I also had a follow up then.

Those are good clarified questions, Sam. And then is this audio, it's an audio recording? It's a furtive video? Like what type of recording are we talking about? It's audio. There's no video of it. And it's Sarah, or this woman who sounds like Sarah, certainly, talking to a man who, by the way, is not Milo Ewanoplas. Because a lot of people are misunderstanding this.

Milo did not record this himself. This audio is a man who is saying, you know, and then what happened? You know, then what did you do with him at CPAC? And so that's sort of what the audio is like. Yeah, I've listened to the recordings that Milo post. It's a caveat that they're from Mila, but it will have got the same recordings. It does sound like this person who is talking to Sarah. We don't know this person's identity is trying to goad her or lead her to a certain place.

It looks like they're trying to solicit information critical of Elijah Adifer. That's just my read of it and how it feels when you listen to it. But that's important context for people watching this. Well, it's the, it's very like James O'Keefe in that it's sort of. this constant like and wouldn't you also say and then what happened and sort of if you had this happening to you you'd be like oh this like random guy is asking me a lot about my I think I think I think it's important at this point then to mention a little bit more about the sexual encounter that the woman that sounds like Sarah Stock describes uh with Elijah at CPAC 20 was it at CPUSI CPC

2025 yeah so she says basically that um you know I think she was sick and Eliza gave her Benadryl and some alcohol and she blacked out in her sense of it. And then, you know, we don't get the details essentially, but something, some sexual thing took place. And she claims that was the end of it. I think Milo has claimed that he has other sourcing that this kind of went on for a longer period of time up until she got engaged and sort of really got into this, this trabb lifestyle. She has denied this or? Well, no. She's, she posted on Twitter, she said, there's a lot of false things out there about me. And I should say there's all these other allegations that we're not even getting into.

because they're the less founded. Just give me one. Just give me one just for, just one. Just one unfounded allegation. Just one, just for, to curiosity. Well, I mean, just the one that brings to mind about Elijah is that Milo said, oh, Elijah has like this electric vibrator or a dildo or something.

I truly, I think that's basically baseless. I really think there's very little to that claim. I was wondering, because Will and I talked about the story yesterday in the office, and he would mention the electric dildo multiple times to me in the office. And I was wondering, where is it's not in the draft? But I didn't want to press matters, because I was a little bit worried about my slack trail and my Google history, if I'm starting doing all. So, no. So she said basically, there's a lot of false claims out there about me. However, you know, I have made some mistakes. You know, please pray. And, you know, I'm going to take a step

back for a little while. And then I guess the apology didn't go very well, because within like 45 minutes of that going up, she just deleted her Twitter entirely. And she is a, Trad, also in the Catholic sense, there's kind of the evangelical strain of trad and the Catholic strain of trad. I do think it's worth noting that like she went so far in her performative traditional Catholicism that she had her marriage blessed by Pope Leo. Blessed by Pope Leo. This is where, you know, you bring the Pope into it, people aren't going to be happy. Basically she, there's a picture. I'm not happy. The Bullwark Pope, the Bullwark Pope, getting sullied by the electric vibrator fingering girl from TPSA.

She didn't use the electric vibrator. Elijah used the electric vibrator. Come on now. So, so, yes, there's a picture that she had posted on Instagram of her, and it seems like various other married couples or soon-to-be married couples. And, you know, she's wearing a white wedding dress, and Pope Leo saying, you know, good on you, good luck with the marriage.

And basically, Milo claims, I think, that this was some of his motivation to out this story was, because he's now a big Catholic guy, supposedly. And he's saying, you know, how could you bring the Pope into this, you know, that you've challenged the Holy See or whatever. Milo just had to do it because of, you know, his Catholicism. I mean, it's not that he loves stirring up shit, you know. Yeah. Well, we were talking a few weeks ago about him going after Benny Johnny and he was gay.

And so this is a recurring trope. Have we, um, have we heard anything about the lawsuit that Benny was going to file against Milo? Actually, you bring that up? Has there been any progress on that? You know, I checked it about a week ago and nothing had been filed. I know both Benny and his wife had put out those statements saying, you know, we have to defend our honor. And, you know, nothing has come out so far. Well, to the mega influencer who texted me saying that they were excited to watch the story,

you're probably closer to Benny than me. Maybe you could check in on that for us. Ask him why he hasn't filed that lawsuit yet about the fact that he's definitely not gay. A couple other, speaking of gay influences, a couple other subplots. I think it's worth mentioning here. Number one, Christian Walker, who I was trying so hard to get on FYI pod, never would. Hershawker's sassy gay son. He had a cue shaper of cheating on his wife as early as 2022.

Elijah wants to act like he's some moral, high and mighty, better than everyone. Man, he was fired from his job for inappropriate behavior. And not even a year ago at a conservative conference, he did my friend four times and one night unprotected while he was married. Go get your family life and your morality together, adulterer. You go study up on. what morality actually is because it ain't cheating on your wife. I met your wife. She was really kind and it's gross to what you do to her behind her back when you go to conservative conferences

without her. Don't you ever speak on my family and my family business before you get you your family life together? Cheater. So it seems like the gays were on to Elijah. So certainly in the case of Christian Walker, I mean, he really got explicit with it. I mean, he was like, well, Elijah, you know, you're going after me for being gay. But, you know, you were, hitting it raw with my friend at the conservative convention four times. I mean, it's really getting explicit with it. And you watch it and go, oh, boy, okay, even years later. And so there was that, I mean, look, Elijah is part of the kind of the fingering trio story because the allegation was that, you know, this fingering happened in the lobby and then that

Elijah somehow also hooked up with this woman. So, I mean, this stuff has been out there for a while that Elijah was not like Mr. Fidelity. And so I think that this was really, as he made this pivot not just from like right wing hate monger but to like right wing daddy hate monger that that he that it was really undermining that speak of white wing daddy hate monger that takes us to the thought picture that uh we referenced earlier we know everyone's in waiting for this let's go ahead and pull that up on screen uh here's Elijah talking about his new pipe um I got to tell you looks good I think probably mess though I don't know I'm not an accusation. I see a lot of

speaking of gays and I see a lot of gays posting pictures like this and you know maybe Tina is it to play here but he's got the cross is that a cross necklace we zoom in orthodox cross yes an orthodox cross yeah let's keep zooming

and that's not bad and you can understand why he's why he's fucking so many tradd girl traddly allegedly let's just add a couple allegedly in the post edits here allegedly possibly meth, allegedly.

If I could offer some insight on Elijah's physique, so he used to be how do you have insight into this? Like a little bigger. I mean, like, he wasn't like, but he was like a little, you know, he was real chunky. He enjoyed some snacks, I guess, sort of when he originally like got on the scene. And then in the past, like, as part of the

kind of like the more Christian turn, he also got jacked. And I imagine, I mean, he's talking about getting sober and all this stuff. But he's also like a big enthusiast of peptides, which of course are the the sort of the wild world of often Chinese sort of ozempic but twice or three times powerful. I've been hearing good things about peptides, I'll say. I've been hearing that I don't want to get into it. It seems like a like a wild west, you know. Isn't the obvious explanation that the electric dildo really burns calorie?

Well, the other thing I would say is that this is unfounded, but I don't think this is libelous, so maybe we'll include it. But basically, I was talking to someone. Unbounded but not libelous. I love that. That's where we like to stay. Just to give you an idea of the rumor mill around this. I said to someone, I was like, God,

Elijah's looking really red and orange in these photos. And they said, yes, he's on a peptide that makes you your skin look orange. Now, apparently this does exist. It's supposed to make you look tanner. But I don't know if that's true or not. But he does sell. Like a lumpa. I can see how a pet type look.

Like Trump, perhaps? Yeah, I was just I was going to say, I could see a very popular kind of Trump branded peptide for the Magas, because they are into like fitness culture now. It's kind of like an RFK Trump branded thing where it's like you get jacked and orange. I bet that'd be popular.

I bet that would do well. You hate to give them more business ideas. Yeah, I was just going to say, why don't you just pat his pockets a little more? I think it's a good idea. But yeah, I will say it is a real thing that exists. I have no evidence besides just rumors that Elijah does. So Elijah, I just pulled up his account here and he hasn't posted since February 1.

That would have been Monday. I should say that his Monday post, he wrote, Indians just colonized and voted a pro-rape and pro-gang candidate to run the most powerful county in Texas. The readers have edited that have, what's it called? What is the fucking Elon thing called Community Note? He's been community noted on that.

Community Note says census data shows that Indian Americans are barely 1.4% of Tarrant County. So I don't know that he was like, you know, hitting the nail on the head with that one. But he was continuing through Monday to spew racist vial. Since then, has any sighting? Well, he's deleted all of these posts about his family going missing and things like this. And I will say, you know, the community notes have been brutal for Elijah.

At one point he posted, you know, he was saying, look, I'm not out to hurt my family. My wife divorced me and, you know, took the kids and all this. They left me with nothing. And then the community note was like, this used. has relentlessly cheated on his wife. You know, that they were citing the Milo. But, you know, the one thing I would say also about that thirst trap is that this is when he had fled to El Salvador.

Let's bring it back up. Let's pull it back up. Well, he was claiming that Cash Patel and the FBI were like out to destroy him, that he was being docks, all this stuff. So he could only fly to naive Bucolet's El Salvador for protection. And then in that caption, you can see, he's like, I can't wait to get back with my beautiful family, all this. I just like, I'm a family man.

And then you post that thirst trap. I mean, I don't see it. It's kind of incoherent there. I hope the family state. I hope the kids get some distance. It's the biggest picture. I have two closing thoughts. We can kind of go around the horn.

Elijah has 862,000 followers on X.com. So this is not like a random figure. He had built a following for this nonsense. I think that, you know, this is in some ways a tale as old as time. But there is a new resurgence in the trad stuff on the right. You know, like anti-gay stuff. People can't stop talking about for a while. that's back, you know, family roles, women having their place in the home, women serving

their husband, all of that is kind of reemerging. It's with a little added element of like machismo, like, you know, kind of weightlifting grind culture, you know, as opposed to kind of the last time this was around Jerry Falaw and Pat Robertson, those are kind of soft bodies. Now we've got some like, you know, muscle boys doing the same nonsense. And, you know, sometimes I feel like, maybe I'm getting old. I've been around the block a little bit. But it's like every single time these guys are you fucking the pool boy. Every time.

And in this case, maybe e-girl. But, you know, the principle is still the same. And I do think that it's important to make sure and the next generation of youth understand that it's almost always a protest too much situation. Sam, do you, any other final takeaways for it? It's just profoundly moving closing thoughts from you. And I hate to trample on them.

But as someone who, cares about our legal liability. Let me just stress. We do not know for certain that Elijah used a dildo. We don't. We only have allegations that that was Sarah Setka's voice, although she has not denied it. Well, it appears to be. It sounds like her. But we don't know for certain. So we're just making clear that's the case. I just want to clarify that Sarah Setska's relationship with Elijah ended, I believe, when she got married. So she's not accused. So she's not accused of infidelity. She's accused of breaking up. That's a good flag, though I will say as a cradle Catholic, you know, you do notice that the trads talk a lot about gay sex being against the rules,

but a premarital sex, non-marriage sex, also against the rules. She also was in a relationship with a married man. Yeah, probably. Yeah, sure. So probably, you know, maybe between her and her priest, as far as confession is concerned, I don't know what's happened in the confessional, but I do think it's important to say that the premarital sex with a married man is frowned upon in the Catholic. Let me just keep a couple more. Elijah, we do not know if he's taking this orange weight loss Chinese supplement. There are some circumstantial evidence that suggests, but we don't know. And we're just going to be honest about that.

We do not know. Milo is not a reputable source for anything. And so while we are referencing Milo, we are not trusting him. And I just want to be clear, nothing. And this is us trusting Milo. We are fairly, fairly confident in concluding that Elijah did not kill his family. There is that we believe proof of proof of life. We're not alleging that that happened.

As far as we know, he's still employed, I think. Well, by his own company. I'm wrong by that. I mean, it's, although he was, he was complaining in a recent show that he had roughly the equivalent of 10 viewers on the show. So that's TBD. I think I covered all of our legal vulnerabilities there, and I just wanted to make sure that we got that in if anyone is still watching. Huh. What about Milo no longer being an ex-gay?

Do you want to clarify that? Well, that's up in the air, and I think it's worthy of more reporting from Will. Okay. But I think we won't be legally liable for putting it out there. Can I just build briefly on the point Tim made about the kind of the trad life? So the reaction to this on the right has been jubilation, perhaps, because a lot of these people were disliked. But also within the world of right-wing women, there's been this battle over, you know, you have women like Sarah Stock who look at older women and by older, I mean like 26, 27.

And they say, you know, you're a girl boss thought you need to get married and kind of settle down and have this kind of like 19th century Catholic idea. But then so a lot of those women were saying, well, look, you know, number one, you know, she wasn't living that life really, they allege. And then two, look at Eliza Schaefer's wife who was sort of a small right-wing comment. her herself. And, you know, she actually was very trad. I mean, she was home with the kids while Elijah was working. She got married. And look, you know, he ran off with this or, you know, had to allegedly had this relationship with a much younger woman. And that's why older, you know, fairly older right-wing

women in their, say, 30s or 40s are saying often, you know, hey, maybe things are a little more complex. Maybe it's not about getting married at 22 and settling down and never leaving the home again. Who, what a show. It's a lot. I sometimes say you're not getting it like this anywhere else. I think with good confidence. This is the only place you're getting material like this. All right, 30 minute deep dives on right-wing influencer, electric dildo drama. There's nowhere else out there where we're doing. Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly on the tildo. There's nowhere else where people are doing it like this. Thanks, Will, and Sam. See you soon.