Bulwark Takes - Tim Miller: Federal Agents Shot an American And These Ghouls Defended It

Episode Date: January 29, 2026

Tim Miller joined Piers Morgan to give his take on Alex Pretti's murder by federal officers in Minneapolis and called out panelists defending state violence, while breaking down what real courage and real masculinity looks like.Watch the full video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgHftUYA9rQ

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Hey, everybody. It's Tim Miller from the Bullwark. I went back into the Pears Morgan Lions Den. So gurg your loins for that one. Buckle up. It gets intense. There's some yelling. There's some yelling. Among those I was on with was a fellow who calls himself the officer and a former acting ice director. One of whom was basically pro the state murder was just really happy with the fact that a fellow citizen got murdered by anonymous. agents of the state. The other one was trying to, you know, figure he needed to, he needs to see more angles. You know, the 39 angles we have weren't sufficient for him. And so we had some disagreements. They didn't like none too much my perspective on this and tried to, you know, use the gay card, like a lot of, oh, you're so emasculated. So we end up having a nice talk about what masculinity is

and about who represents masculinity. the nurse who put himself in harm's way to protect a woman that had been pushed down by bullies or the six or seven masked anonymous agents who tackled that nurse and still managed to get scared that he might beat them in a one-on-seven fight and assassinated him because they're such little scaredy boys. let's just say we have a little disagreement on that. We also talked about Elon Omar getting attacked and whether that was real or not. You can count me on the side of real, of course. I do this as a little personal therapy. I also do it for you. And I do it because maybe just maybe there are one or two souls out there watching Pierce Morgan who are thinking,

you know what? I think the gay and the flannel might have had the point there. So we'll see. I appreciate you guys. Stick around for the highlights. Bye. Tim Miller, it seems to me it's been a very significant 48 hours, actually, for Donald Trump, for his administration, for the wider public and for this issue of trust

and being able to believe what we see with our own eyes. Because if you listen to what these administration officials were saying in the immediate aftermath of this killing, then this guy, Alex Predey, was about to launch a massacre of law enforcement officers. When we could all see from the various clips that were coming out that that simply wasn't true. He was defending a woman protester who'd been thrown on the floor. He was then thrown on the floor himself. Yes, he had a weapon on him, but at no stage did he brandish that weapon

or represent any threat to the eight ISIS. officers that engulfed him, and in fact, they took away his gun, and then they killed him. So given that we could all see that, I think what's happened here, which has been really pretty unprecedented and quite fascinating to watch, is that Donald Trump has realized this has crossed a line, a line many people may not have thought Donald Trump was aware of or cared about. And that lying being, if you try and tell people that what they've just seen with their own eyes is not true. They're not going to buy it. Trusting news is going to erode, and your polling numbers are going to get slayed, and ultimately it will cost you at the ballot box.

What's your reading of it? Well, I hope you're right, peers. I hope that Donald Trump changes course. I think we've seen some very minor evidence of that replacing Greg Bevino with Tom Homan. For me, I would have preferred that all of the ICE and CBP agents be removed from Minneapolis immediately and then taken off the streets and brought back to D.C. or to the border where they're supposed to be. Minneapolis is famously 300 miles from a border. And then they could reassess what a program would look like where they actually went after the worst of the worst rather than menacing American citizens and menacing people who are here legally. And I do agree with you that the American people overwhelmingly do not want and do not support. a government that murders its own citizens in the street that unloads a clip and shoots them 10 times, fires six bullets into their dead body on the ground, and then lies about them and smears them

after they're dead. I think that the vast majority of Americans don't want that. You'll probably be able to find a couple of shills to come on and defend that on this show. But I think the vast majority of Americans say, no, we do not want murderous mass thugs anonymously killing our fellow Americans. And so I do think that that is showing up in the polls. I think you're saying Donald Trump's numbers erode massively, particularly among Hispanics, but also among young men, the libertarian types, the folks that really believed, they don't tread on me flag, the folks that really believed in the First Amendment, which protects free speech, which protects taping people in your community if you want to, as well as the Second Amendment, which protects your ability to carry a weapon.

So the young men that flock to Trump, I think, thinking that he was going to be a free speech president are now seeing the truth. And I do think it's hurting him with them as well. I would never confront or get in a physical altercation with any law enforcement with a gun on me. You learn that in a CCW class and as a person with common sense. Because what happens? Things get twisted up. You have the gun get exposed. They yell gun, gun, gun.

He's reaching for his waistband. They think he has a gun. All of that is going to be justification under the law because the perception of the Border Patrol agent that believed that he was armed and dangerous at the time that he fired the shots is going to be justification. They took his gun away. I'll put money on anybody on this panel.

Just like, just like, we literally see them take his gun off him. And then they kill him. But that doesn't mean that the Border Patrol agent who shot him saw the gun being removed, Pierce. That is a part of the investigation. Brandon, Brandon, please, we've listened to this enough. For starters, your whole, man, your whole spin is crazy.

This idea that you started your thing by saying this was justified because the border patrol agent came and pushed a woman to the ground. Why are border patrol agents, excuse me, sir, let me continue. Why are border patrol agents in Minneapolis nowhere near the border pushing American citizen women to the ground? Brandon, Brandon, shut up for a second. how law works, they have jurisdiction to enforce immigration law within the boundaries of the city. What the heck are you talking about?

Was she an immigrant? Was she an illegal immigrant? Who? They push an American citizen to the ground. We have rights. Brandon, the entire Minneapolis police force, shut up. Shut up, Brian. You can't tell me.

Shut up. The entire Minneapolis police force. Come make me shut up. Zero bullets all year last year. I'm a grown man. You want a problem with me? works for us. Okay, so I thought. They don't get to shoot American citizens 10 times and shoot sick bullets into our dead bodies. They don't get to push down women. They work for us. They represent us. We pay them. They need to

use restraint and de-escalate. Okay, they are here, they're to serve and protect us, not to push women to shoot guys. Okay, time out. Time out. Time out. Time out. They were citizens executing their rights and they got murdered. And you're on here to- Like a ghoul. All right. Legal justification. Okay, hang on. He's dead.

Time out, please. Time out, please. I want to bring in Jonathan Faye because you're a former acting ICE director. But first, I want to play a clip from Donald Trump about the gun part of this. You know, he can't have guns. You can't walk in with guns.

What about the Second Amendment? Listen, he can't walk in with guns. You can't do that. But it's just a very unfortunate incident. You agree with the assessment from some of your own officials that Alex Freddie is a domestic terrorist or an assassin. Well, I haven't heard that.

But certainly he shouldn't have been carrying a gun. But I don't like that he had a gun. I don't like that he had two fully loaded magazines. That's a lot of bad stuff. And despite that, I say that's a very unfortunate. Now, the thing is, Jonathan Vee, you know, I've repeatedly heard Donald Trump say he's the biggest Second Amendment guy in America, right? How does that square with what he's saying there about this protester who was, you know,

who was there, had a lawful right to have a firearm and the ammunition, he's saying he shouldn't have taken it. But that's a, that's a repudiation of his constitutional rights, isn't it? I don't think so at all, and I don't view it the same way, in that, yeah, you have a right to carry a firearm, but it also comes with responsibilities. I know Tim's rolling his eyes there, but the thing is, what the issue is here, is this person injected himself in the situation, and I'm not going to come to a conclusion because I don't know what happened, but He injected himself into a law enforcement situation, and he was armed, and he went there. He didn't go there to protest, my understanding.

These people weren't holding up signs saying, open borders mass amnesty. He was injecting himself into a situation to interfere with ICE doing their jobs. The legal issue, and you don't just come out and say it's murder if someone dies. The issue is, did this officer have a reasonable belief that his life or the lives or others were in danger of being lost or being seriously injured? And one thing, hang on a second, Tim. It's important from the officer's perspective in what's reasonable, and they are in this high-pressure situation. And the fact that the gun was removed, that's a factor.

But it's not the only factor because you don't know in these situations, does he have another gun or something else to make someone safe? So the question you want to ask, are- Did any of your agents ever fired 10 bullets into an American citizen? Did that ever happen when you're acting director? Did they ever fire 10 bullets into an American citizen? Tim, Tim, if you could. Did that ever happen? Did you ever do that?

Look, did, I can answer to the question that you want, if you're, are you performing or can I just ask? No, I'm asking. It's a fair question. Did that ever happen? You were the asking director. Did any of your agents ever kill American citizens? Don't speak.

Are we here to talk about this or is it just revenge and debate a male? I agree. What is this? Let's not talk over each other. So, so I think the question Tim is asking is a reasonable one. I know, I know the emasculated males are are up in arms, Tim. but come on. All right.

You're saying the problem is that the, I would say the person, excuse me, I would say the person I would say the person. Please don't talk over each other. Guys, you just called me to ask you a crowd. I would say the person was masculated. Guys, no one can hear you when you talk over each other. Okay. Jonathan, great.

He's answered the question. You want to perform. Please let me, please let me conduct this panel. Thank you. The point Tim was making to you, Jonathan, was in all your time. as ICE director, acting ice director. Did you ever have an incident like this where an ICE official put 10 bullets,

or two of them did, put 10 bullets into an American citizen? I can tell you, I know a lot about police shootings. I was a federal prosecutor of 17 years. I've defended police and police students. And the way they are trained at Brandon, we'll confirm this. You fire until the threat is no longer a threat and then you reevaluate.

So the fact that they're 10, bullets. You don't just say, you know, we've heard Joe Biden, remember, during the, you shoot in the leg or whatever, you don't do that. And that's not the way they're trained. So if the issue is the number of bullets, then the question is maybe they should be trained differently, but they are trained to eliminate the threat. Now, Brandon, what has concerned me about this is that from Donald Trump, and I think you have intimated this too, there's an immediate position by people on the MAGA right that because you don't like Ily and Omar, that she somehow has staged this. It's not real. It didn't happen the way people think it did. This guy was a plant and so on.

And again, it comes back to what I sense is a complete eradication of basic humanity. There ought to be parameters between left and right. Well, we can just agree when something like that happens, we all say this is terrible and shouldn't be happening. Pierce, there is no jump to conclusion. I don't care about none of these people. They don't pay my bills. I don't have to say anything by Ellen Omar. I don't really care about her. And Donald Trump don't pay my bills either. But the bottom line is that I'm looking at this impartially.

I don't know what anybody said. I saw the video. And it does not look consistent with someone trying to assault another person, which means I have never in my life seen a person get up, spray something out of syringe at someone's chest. It happened to be nothing inert. And then she comes after him. You didn't see her back away from him. You didn't see a shy away from him. You didn't see any of that nature.

And the guy didn't even resist. Brandon, you would say, Brandon, you would say, Brandon, Brandon, you would say the complete opposite if that was a Republican congressman who would be attacked. Brandon, if the guy going to jail just for fun? That's not true. Is the guy going to jail just for fun? Is that part of the show? I just want to hear a little bit more about this theory.

Listen, no, please, just one second. Let me explain. I want to hear more about this theory. That guy. I'm giving you the elements. I'm giving you the elements. Is he going to jail for sure? show, he's going to jail.

I'm giving you elements of why this looks strange to me. So why do you think he's going to jail? Is there something in the syringe? Is this part of like a lizard people? Listen, was there anything in the syringe? It was inert. There was nothing poisonous. There was no pepper spray.

There was nothing in the syringe. I'm asking you why you think he's going to jail for this. He sprays her with the syringe in the chest. She goes after him. If you're afraid of somebody spraying you with a chemical agent, You're not going to pursue them. He resisted not one bit. He goes to the ground.

She says. You don't believe it, do you, Brian? You don't believe it? I don't think that this was, I think this was staged. I don't know if it was true or not. I think it was staged. Can I ask a question? What if Alex, what if Alex Pretty had sprayed a liquid onto this ice officer?

Would you have, Brandon, would you have said that there was no threat at all? It would be aggravated. It would be aggravated assault. And you would have supported executing him. No. And just like you would have supported. No, that wouldn't have been justification. That wouldn't have been justification for the ICE agent to react.

But merely holding a phone, merely holding a phone is justification to react. Who said that it's justified for somebody to spray something? We're talking about a specific incident where a man had a gun. They had a reason to believe that he was armed and dangerous. He had a gun in his horse. He was holding a phone. He was holding a gun. Can we talk about mass immunity for a second peers?

I'd like to talk about. He had to fall on him. I would too. He did not have a gun on him? Have you ever done law enforcement? Any one of you emasculated men on a thing? Have you ever done law enforcement? You know, have you ever used force in a person for you?

I'm happy to, I'm happy to take this. Why are we? Why are they emasculated? Have you ever had to use force and make a split second decision? Apparently, Pierce were emasculated because we're not bootleckers for, for ice agents who want to kill somebody. But you could judge. Apparently we're emasculated because we're not insupported of six guys jumping, six guys jumping on and murdering a nurse.

There's a use of force. That's a real man, Brandon. Hey, Brandon, you're a real man. You can defend six four-year-men unloading a clip into a nurse-ism-old. Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, please. Hang on, hang on. We can't hear you when you all talk. When you all talk at once, nobody hears any of you.

Tim. Yeah. So I have a couple of things. on this question of whether I've been an officer, this appeal to authority. I haven't, but you know who has the chief of police of Minneapolis? No, no. Let's talk about your experience. Excuse me, Brandon, let me finish talking.

The chief of police of Minneapolis gave a press conference. Brandon, let him talk. Well, actually, that's a good point. We actually don't know the man who shot pretty because the federal government is hiding. But we don't know who killed our own citizens yet. Isn't he? But we know that we know that the chief of police of many people. Minneapolis gave a press conference after the shooting of Preddy, where he talked about how the judgment was irresponsible and how his police officers, every single police officer in the entire city of Minneapolis shot zero bullets last year.

They encountered real criminals. Excuse me, let me finish. They encountered real criminals, not soy boy protesters. They encountered actual criminals. They encountered murderers, rapists, assault. Yeah, they did. They encountered those people. They were armed. How many? They disarmed a thousand. According to the Chief of Lee's something out, they disarmed a thousand people last year without firing a single bullet. These morons fired 10 bullets. And this whole thing about this definition of this definition of masculinity. It's like the really the tough guys are the six mass goons pushing down a woman, pushing down a protester and then getting scared. Oh, they saw a gun and I got so scared.

I've got to shoot my blood. That's what happened. Is that what happened? 10 times. They're so scared. I'm going to shoot my bullet. Those are the masculine men? No, I'm sorry.

The masculine guy was the guy standing up for the woman doing what men should do, standing up for the woman that got pushed down. And then in exchange for his bravery, a bunch of hussies shot him dead. And unloaded six bullets into his dead body while he was laying on the ground. That's what happened. Those are the emasculated men. And I wish we had more men like Alex Pretti. but unfortunately he's dead.

Okay.