Bulwark Takes - Where ARE the Epstein Files? What’s Still Secret..and WHY?

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

Tim Miller explains exactly what’s likely still hidden in the so-called Epstein files: the computers, surveillance tapes, heavily redacted FBI records, mysterious finances, and unanswered questions ...from Epstein’s death.  Why is so much still secret? Who benefits from keeping it that way? This analysis draws heavily from Julie K. Brown’s groundbreaking reporting at the Miami Herald. Check out her work for more in-depth coverage of the Epstein investigation: https://www.miamiherald.com/profile/218644665 Sponsor Info: Bring on the good vibes and treat yourself to Soul today! Right now, Soul is offering The Bulwark fans 30% off their entire order! Go to https://GetSoul.com and use the code BULWARKTAKES. Further Reference: The Epstein files: What is public, and what is still secret? (Julie K. Brown): https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article301174364.html Bill Kristol's July 15, 2025 interview with Julie K. Brown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtWnaJdNO2k Tim Miller's January, 2024 interview with Julie K. Brown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7QG9PXLbXk

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Starting point is 00:00:22 Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. BenMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Hey, everybody. Tim Miller from the Bullock here. I'm sure many of you, like me, have been wondering what exactly is in the Epstein files? What are they? What is already public? What is secret?
Starting point is 00:00:38 What could we possibly learn if the files were released? What form are they in? And so I just wanted to do a little public education journalism for you and really break this out in a way that is easy to digest and understand. And I'm doing it all thanks to our girl, Julie K. Brown at the Miami Herald. So please do go support her journalism, follow her on social media. This is an article that she wrote in the Miami Herald. We've done two interviews with her on this platform. You can go watch those as well. We'll link to them in the show notes. I did one a while ago. Bill Kristol did one on Sunday. So I'm cribbing from Julie Brown here, but I do think it's important to get this into the video
Starting point is 00:01:17 world. What exactly is in the Epstein files? So here's what they list out for what is still secret. For starters, Epstein's computers. And I've mentioned this in a couplestein files. So here's what they list out for what is still secret. For starters, Epstein's computers. And I've mentioned this in a couple of podcasts, the second raid of his Manhattan mansion in 2019, where they seized computers, what appeared to be some CDs, the FBI. It's unknown actually whether the FBI examined them.
Starting point is 00:01:42 At the same time a search was conducted of his US Virgin Islands property, but that occurred many weeks after his arrest. Julie Brown says that sources on the island told her paper in 2019 that his employees removed boxes of computers and video equipment before that search was conducted. So maybe there's nothing from USVI, but we know the FBI got at least computers, video equipment, CDs from his Manhattan mansion in 2019. There was another batch of computers that were taken when he was first arrested in 2005. That was his Palm Beach home. He lived down at Palm Beach by Mar-a-Lago. It's how him and Trump were connected in the first place. You know, during the investigation, it was later learned that his lawyers kept access
Starting point is 00:02:28 to those computers and those files. We don't know whether the FBI was ever able to get their hands on them. But, and some of that was returned to Epstein in 2008 after he played guilty to minor sex charges. So potentially some material there. So the Epstein computers and the videos. Related to the videos, he also had cameras at his properties.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Epstein's brother and Epstein himself and allies have claimed that these cameras were only security cameras. However, several of Epstein's victims claimed that the sexual encounters were taped and used as blackmail. No one however has seen any of the videos. It's reasonable to assume that in the Epstein files along with his computers could be security camera footage from his homes.
Starting point is 00:03:18 None of that has ever come out. We also have what is in the FBI's vault. The FBI releases files on its website. This happens in many cases just as kind of a public accountability measure. They release tens of thousands of pages from the original investigation back in 2007 and 2008. However, most of those documents have been blacked out. There have been journalists trying to get the unredacted versions of those for a long time. We know at minimum that the FBI has the unredacted versions of the documents they've already put out. And so that would also be included underneath the Epstein files. That's something we know that they have that could be gettable. There's some discussion of the client list.
Starting point is 00:04:05 There's no real evidence that Epstein ever kept a list. So probably the Epstein files don't include like an actual list of the pedophiles that he was blackmailing or that were with him. There's flight logs and there are other maybe ways to kind of compile relationships and combinations of lists that you would assume that the DOJ and FBI would have had from their past investigations. But that is material that's still, we know there's still other material, other evidence out there that would implicate other people, you know, besides those who've been named on the flight logs. It's probably not like contained in a very digestible
Starting point is 00:04:45 list, but that is something that's out there. The US Marshall service records. The Marshalls inspected Epstein's plane when arrived from overseas. This is the Marshall services under DHS, and they released some of the forms from that inspection. Thanks to a FOIA by the Miami Herald, Julie Brown. But other than Epstein's name, the forms were completely redacted. So we don't know what they might have uncovered on that plane, maybe nothing, but we don't know. Since it was all redacted,
Starting point is 00:05:16 that would be included in the Epstein files. There's some maybe more flight records we don't have. We do have some flight logs. There are additional FAA records. Additional evidence from his home that I mentioned earlier in the US Virgin Islands. The former attorney general for the USVI filed a lawsuit against Epstein's estate after he died,
Starting point is 00:05:38 alleging that he used his Virgin Islands business as a shell company to conduct illegal activities, including child sex trafficking at his island home. The case was settled out of court. None of the evidence in that case was ever made public. Presumably, that is material that is accessible and could be released. There's also been several federal grand juries that have heard evidence against Epstein. We don't know what was presented. Those are secret and under seal. That is something, again, if you're promising to release all of the Jeffrey Epstein materials, you would release what was presented to two federal grand juries in his two cases.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Then we come to the investigation of his death. They did release the video with the one minute missing of the Epstein death, but there are other things we don't know. Were the inmates in his cells next to him near him? Were they ever interviewed? Who else was ever on the floor? There are elements of the death investigation that have not been released. Finally, here's the one that really gets me the most because immediately if you want to
Starting point is 00:06:41 go to the salacious and obviously into the things that directly affected the victims, you know, via the child sex trafficking. But the thing that has always just piqued my interest the most about the Epstein case is how did he make his money? I asked Julie Brown about this directly in that interview that we linked to below if you want to go watch it. And the answers are just extremely unsatisfying. Who was giving him money? Were they involved in the child sex part of it at all? How did this guy who we don't have any evidence that he was a big successful investor, kind of came out of nowhere career- wise. He's a teacher for a while. How did he make so much money to be able to have planes, to put his name on buildings at Harvard? There I think are just a million questions that could lead to potentially relevant answers about other people who are implicated in this. Maybe
Starting point is 00:07:41 it would lead to answers about why this has been covered up so long, why he got such a sweetheart deal initially. It's unclear whether the FBI ever even investigated his banking and business affairs. You would assume that he did, but we don't have any details about that. And then there are a lot of other very wealthy men who have been on the flight logs, who have been accused of having sex by some of his victims, were they just paying him off? But again, even if, I don't know, could you live the lifestyle of a billionaire just from pedophile sex payoffs? I wouldn't
Starting point is 00:08:18 think so, but maybe. So to me, like that is just a huge missing piece of this story, that if you're going to want to educate people about what really happened and have accountability, you would follow the money. You would figure out who was financing this guy, figure out why were they financing him, was it because they thought he was such a great investment? That seems wrong. So, were they financing him just solely for protection because they were going to his island and sleeping with 16 year olds? I don't like, that is a big missing piece.
Starting point is 00:08:53 I think it's a legitimate line of inquiry for anybody that wants accountability and wants to see more information about what is in the so-called Epstein file. Bullwork Takes is sponsored by Soul. Are you sick of drinking your calories or are you sick of just waking up hungover? Having some drinks can be fun, but I'm glad that I found an alternative that lets me feel great in the moment and in the next morning.
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Starting point is 00:10:53 That's getsol.com, promo code bulwarktakes for 30% off. So there it is. Just to kind of sum up what is in the Epstein files. There are the computers, particularly from the Manhattan home that we know were seized by the FBI. Potentially, there are the tapes and the video cameras in his various homes. There are the redacted records from the US Marshals Service and the FBI that we know have already been released, but with heavy, heavy redactions to such a degree that you really can't decipher them. There's some additional FAA records, might tell us a little bit more about where
Starting point is 00:11:33 the planes were going, who was on them. There's the evidence that was presented to the two grand juries. There was the evidence or lack thereof in the Epstein death investigation. And then any information in any of these investigations related to his financial records. So that, so you know, you don't want to, you don't want to sound like a, you know, a tinfoil hat person, crazy conspiracy person. Oh, I think there's a little black book that has all the, you know, all the perpetrators. It's not that. It's these series of different buckets of information that we know even in some cases that we know that the FBI, the federal government has, we have reason to believe they have, that could be released to shed more light on this and maybe
Starting point is 00:12:17 bring more people to account. And who knows, we'll discover that the president of the United States or some of his close friends are implicated. and that's why they've gone from demanding all this be released to demanding that everybody shut up about it. So there you go. Hopefully that was useful. Send that to friends who are wondering what exactly is in these Epstein files and subscribe to the feed. We'll be back with much more on this.
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