Bulwark Takes - WOW: Trump’s Stupid NYT Suit Gets a Legal SWIRLY

Episode Date: September 20, 2025

Tim Miller and Sam Stein take on a judge's BRUTAL rejection of Trump’s ridiculous lawsuit against The New York Times — and his claim that bad press should be “illegal.”

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BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming. Ontario. Hey, everybody. Tim Miller from the Bullwark here with managing editor Sam Stein. It's the end of the week. We're a little punchy. And we are reading this wonderful court decision, smacking down Donald Trump's

ridiculous lawsuit targeting the New York Times, being Andrew Egger. If you missed that, we'll put a link in the notes here. We broke down just how absurd this fucking lawsuit was initially. Is it absurd? Pretty absurd. Even though I know somebody who was maybe hoping that it was successful.

but we won't talk about that um but um but the judge here is stepan mary day shout out to stephen mary day great name george hw bush appointee our greatest hw yeah what did i say did i say george w bush greatest i understand hw greatest president of my lifetime so it's still it's you know this the long tail of his work is still uh work is still at play here and mary day response so just i guess briefly for folks who must have the uh And the alleged shoot against the Times was that they were too mean to Trump and his base good is short of it and that they underplayed his fame and celebrity and success in business. They didn't know that he was in Home Alone, too.

They didn't know that he was in Home Alone too. And so I'm about to read some of it unless Sam, do you have a top line take before I read some of this great? There we go. Judge Mary Day is replying to, in rejecting this motion, he is, he replies. thusly. The reader must endure an allegation of, quote, endure. The desperate need to defame with a partisan spear rather than report with an authentic looking glass. And another allegation that, quote, the false narrative about the apprentice was just the tip of the defendant's

melting iceberg of falsehoods. Similarly, and one of the many repetitive and often laudatory toward President Trump, but superfluous allegations, the pleader states, the apprentice represented the cultural magnitude of President Trump's singular brilliance, which captured the zeitgeist of our time. Mr. Mary Day, Judge Mary Day, did not like having to read all of that. His point was like, this

was not necessary. It was 85 pages of knob slobbing, and he had other business to attend to that day. There's other parts that are so good. Can you read one? Yeah. As every lawyer knows. Oh, that was going to be my other one. This is the

best part. I claimed, I claimed, I claim I claim it. As every lawyer knows or is presumed to know, that's in parentheses. A complaint is not a public forum. I can't even pronounce this word. For the turpiration and invective, a complaint is not a megaphone for public relations or a podium for a passionate oration at a political rally or the functional equivalent of the Hyde Park Speakers Corner. I had to look that one up. What did you find? Because I was excited to discuss that. What is the Hyde Park speakers for?

Have you not looked it up? I know. If you really haven't, then take a guess. I would guess that maybe it was like, it's kind of like, so in Iowa at the fair, they have the soapbox where candidates go up there and then local Iowans yell at them. And so I'm guessing there's a version of this in Hyde Park, which is in London. Is it in London? I don't know.

Dude, you nailed it. Oh, my God. You fucking nailed it. Historic designated public speaking area in London where anyone can. publicly speak or debate on any topic without prior approval. Damn, dude. Anyone can speak on it?

I didn't know that. That's not how it works at the Iowa soapbox. You have to be scheduled. This is what AI, Google's AI is telling me. So it has to be true. The AI has been spitting out some falsehoods to me. It's located in the northeast corner of Hyde Park near Marble Arch Tube Station.

I did not go check that out when I was in London over the summer. Yeah. Do you feel like these judges are like trying to outdo one another for like the most over-the-top wrist slap in response to these lawsuits? I feel like that's what's happening is that they read each other's decisions. They read each other's decisions. They're like, you know what?

That wasn't shaming them enough. I need to like, you know, throw in some crazy vocabulary. I think it's also possible that they are, they're dealing with a lot of boring material. This was that, yeah. Day and day out, like you're in the Tampa.

You're in the Tampa District of Florida. Like imagine just the kind of Ron DeSanctimonious nonsense that you got to deal with on a day and day. Tempa's got a lot of weird shit going on, yeah. And so you get this coming across your desk and you're like, you know, and you're like, you know what, I'm going to have a little fun with these clowns, all right? I'm going to, I'm going to give them a swirley. We're going to give them a bit tuperative swirley using our, you know, what I have at my disposal,

which is a pen, you know, an illegal, in a legal ruling. So the tuperation, just so you know, the definition is built. an abusive language. I didn't know that. You didn't? I was like, one of the old conservatives I read uses this word all the time.

It must have been another George H.W. Bush, and I don't know who it is, but the word is very familiar because does George Will use it a lot? Somebody uses it a lot. The favorite word of one of the old conservative columnists that are going on a smile. It's the type of word Edgar would use and then I would take out of his copy. I guess we'll just throw this out.

I do another separate video on this where I gave my view, but might as well get yours. In this spirit, I don't know, man. I mean, these, I don't want to get too excited because I think that I'm very, obviously, it's very chilling what the administration is doing. And I'm particularly concerned about the local TV angle and the way that they are, you know, using local media and the TikTok angle the way that they're, you know, so there's a lot to be concerned about. And yet, in their biggest picture kind of attacks here, they keep getting rebuffed. I mean, they're losing in courts.

Even you got Ted Cruz out there, smacking down Brendan Kahn. and that's that's pretty noteworthy uh pan bondy had to pull back from her claim that the justice department is going to go after hate speech you're not feeling any sense of just like that they're they're kind of they're not really winning this fight in the public square on the hide park soapbox yeah of our internet let's put okay let's separate a couple things here one is just the lawsuit this specific lawsuit so just they're going to have to refile it whatever i can't imagine and this goes very far. But even like the idea that this judge had to deal with this ridiculousness,

like that's, I find that not like the world's most troubling development, but it is annoying and troubling. And the Times doesn't want to have to deal with this, obviously. And, you know, it takes attention away from their work and it takes resources away from the paper. So, yeah, I'm glad that this Mary Day gave him a real slap on the red. and all that, but it's not like particularly, I don't take joy out of that. I think the fact that they had to get to this evening place sucks. And then on the kind of broader question of like, well, aren't they getting rebuked here

and there? And I will say, I am pleasantly, the last 12 to 24 hours have been pleasantly surprising to see some voices speak out. Like, I woke up, I saw the Bill Simmons quote. And, like, that made me feel good, honestly, because frankly, people need to, like, just speak out. Like, that's all we have. Like, literally, that's it. And then, you know, seeing Ted Cruz say what he said, that's great.

Cool. I like it. But I keep coming back to the fact that, like, even if they bring Kimmel back on air, there is a silent censorship happening. I think Jeremy Peters was, I was on TV with German Peterson. That's the phrase he used them. I'm going to adopt it. But, like, this is a silent censorship. Like, everyone is going around being like, oh, you know, they want to tick off the administration.

Like, people, I've talked to people in the industry, in the industry about this upcoming Charlie Kirk Memorial Service on Sunday. And everyone's going to be covering it and watching it. Like, people are on like pins and needles about, like, what they're going to write and say about it and the punditry around it. Because they don't want to say something that would just, like, you know, have a mob go after them. So that, I think that subtle coercion is really, it's troubling to have to work in that way. Grateful for working at the Bullwark, honestly. It is great for working at the Bullock. I'll say another silver lining is so many of you have subscribed to us.

Maybe it's because you can't do a Disney Plus subscription over the last two days. I know. So subscribe right here to the Bullwark. We're going to keep talking. We don't have Bluey on here. And Bill Simmons's rant was good. It was solid, really strong. You know, I've got the hate fire in my hearts that, that I'll be.

I was feeling from him, really. His statements were all really good, and I was listening to it, and I was listening to his picks and his guessing of the lines, and, you know, I miss Parent Corner, but, you know, you also need somebody that has hate power in your heart. I've got breaking news for you, unless you have one thing on Bill Simmons. I have one breaking news. I don't know.

No, we're going to go for it. The president, our president is talking again. He's always talking, yeah, on TV. He's always talking, yeah. And he's weighed in on this very topic that we're, or not the New York Times lawsuit in particular, but on the free speech topic we're discussing. and I want to play it for you.

Follow up on Charlie Kirk. There's been a lot of talk about free speech this week. Do you see a difference between cancel culture and consequence culture? I mean, your question's a little trick question. I'm a very strong person for free speech. At the same time, when you have networks where I won an election, like in counties, I guess it's 2,600 to 525, it's called Lansom. a landslide times too, when you have that kind of, that level of popularity or voter support,

as I did in the last election. And yet 97 and 94 percent, different numbers, you see different numbers with different stats, but 97, 94, 95, 96 percent of the people are against me in the sense of the newscasts are against me. the stories are 90 they said 97% bad so they gave me 97 they'll take a great story and they'll make it bad see i think that's really illegal personally okay so there you go he's the best free speech president ever he also think it's he also thinks it's illegal if a news station takes a good story and makes it bad i don't know who's the judge of that is about what what what what the story went from good to bad Brandon Carr. He's the judge. He's the judge.

It's so, I mean, I said yesterday, and I'll say it again, like, this man, just the thinness of the skin is unreal. It's like. Some people didn't like that, I noticed on social media. Well, that's because I had closed my replies, but I closed my replies because I'm getting physical threats on Twitter, which has become horrible. So I'll open them up again eventually, but like, I just don't want to deal with that shit. And I have thin skin, too. So, you know, but I own that. But like, look, I just. feel like this guy, you know, again, we're kind of moving down a path towards like he's going to make it totally acceptable for a huge chunk of this country to absolutely abandon any semblance of free speech principles. And I think, you know, it's great that Ted Cruz is standing

up, but like when you condition 40% of the country to believe that you can't criticize Donald Trump or else that's not free speech, that's not great. It isn't great. It isn't great. It's mockable, though. And we'll continue to mock him in his little tiny fingers. Okay, Sam Stein, that's you. Appreciate you very much, everybody. Have a wonderful weekend. We'll be back this weekend.

Actually, it's not like we're going anywhere. I'm sitting here. I'm in my hole. So I'll probably be talking to you this weekend. And catch you then. Subscribe to the feed. Tell your friends. Peace. Grab a coffee and discover nonstop action with MGM Casino. Check out our hottest exclusive. Friends of one with Multi-Drop. And to even more options.

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