Camp Gagnon - Craziest Olympic Moments In History

Episode Date: July 29, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Olympics are once again in full swing. We just had the opening ceremony, which was interesting. But that's the topic for a different video. Once again, the world is brought together with the power of competition, victory and drama. And oh boy, there's a lot of drama. If we look at the history of the Olympics, there have been such crazy, shocking, tragic, unbelievable moments. I mean, everything from crazy injuries to attacking referees to cheating to steroid use, sabotaging your opponents, Nazi propaganda, and terror attacks.
Starting point is 00:00:32 And today, we're breaking it all down. Yes, that's right. Not every event, but just the most important ones. The conspiracies and the cover-ups to try to stop the stories from leaking, why the government try to step in, and how they affect you and the Olympic Games today. So, sit back, relax, and welcome to camp. What's up, people?
Starting point is 00:00:57 Welcome back to camp rituals. This is the show, again, different than our normal. programming, but now we've already done one. This is the second one. This is where I discuss the most interesting, fascinating events that have occurred in human history on this planet to my dumbest friends. Me again. And today we're talking about the Olympics. We are in full effect, and it is in Paris, 24, but this is not the first Olympics. No. Nope. A long history of Olympacies have happened. Crazy fun fact. Did you know the ancient Olympic Games have been going longer than the modern Olympic Games?
Starting point is 00:01:30 Oh, that's wild. Wild, right? By like 10 times. Were they every four years? Every four years. Okay. Sorry. I'm just going to burp a lot of this pot.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Blood lights are hit me, dude. First Olympic games were held in Olympia, Greece. 776 BCE. You could say BC. That's your people. Yeah, that's a good point. I said BCE because that's how I had it written down here. I'll say BCE, but you say BC.
Starting point is 00:01:49 That's Common Era. Yeah. But I'm before Christ. I'm common area. I'm before Christ. All right. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:01:54 So 76, before Christ, even was here. They were doing the Olympics. They did it for a thousand years. That's true. That's crazy. Before Jesus even pulled up on this. A thousand years that they were doing it, the modern Olympic games
Starting point is 00:02:05 have been going for like 100 years. Like 150, maybe. Oh, wow. Like 10x. That's crazy. And back in the day, it was like wild. So only Greek men could compete until Nero pulled up in 67 AD.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Nero, we're going to get to him. This motherfuckerfork was wild. God damn. 700 years of just Greeks. Only Greeks. And they would do foot races, boxing, pentathlon, which was like running, jumping,
Starting point is 00:02:26 discis throw, javelin, wrestling, a bunch of other shit. Equestrian events, chariots and horse racing. The winners were obviously given all of wreaths. So first off, these Greek city states would all battle each other. Yeah. And then once Nero came in, it even expanded farther into the empire. And they basically had every Olympic Games, like, a ceasefire.
Starting point is 00:02:44 It was like mandated across the empire to be like, yeah, let's not fuck each other up for like in the next couple weeks. Cool. We're all going to compete. And it was like a sense of like village pride. So this is something a lot of people know. Ancient events were done naked. Kind of fire.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Bring that back. Wrestling with your boys, just butt ass. Bring that back. Sprint and butt ass. Apparently, like, the first guy, this is, I'm not even reading it. This is just, I remember this. This is like apocryphal, I think. The first guy that, like, they would wear, like, these, like, short little, like, cloth things.
Starting point is 00:03:11 And he was sprinting in, like, 100 meter, and then his pants fell off. And he won it naked. And then, ever since then, again, this is like apocryphal. This is, like, legend. But ever since then, people were like, yo, we should do this should naked. It's faster. Like, if this dude won, like, yo, just run it up naked, bro. Oh, this is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:03:27 So they did the Olympics. The Olympics were only men. Not that I supported that. I don't think that's how it should have been. But it was men for a long time. Makes sense. And then, but they also had the Harian events named after the goddess Hera.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Jesus, dude. Did we try the beer before we did this? I did not do that. I didn't make anyone do anything. They had the Haryan events. And this was after the goddess Hara, okay? And this was a woman's only event. And it was basically just like racing.
Starting point is 00:03:54 They didn't do anything else. They just had them like, They just raced them. And no one showed up except like their husbands, I think. Not wild. Yeah, like they would just like pull up in the arena. It was just like five guys and they were like, which one's yours? It was like a little league like baseball game.
Starting point is 00:04:08 And they were just watching them race. Like, great job, money. You fucking killed it with the Herian event. But no one really gave a shit apparently. I don't know. That's not like modern times. No. I mean, WMA's popping.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I mean, we care about women's sports here. Come on, dude. I haven't eaten all day. The peers are getting it. I haven't eaten since fucking 9 a.m. It's on our third pot.
Starting point is 00:04:34 We're having boy dinner, dude. We're having boy dinner. We just had a couple zins and a beer. There's nothing wrong with that. I had ice cream at the studio. That's good. You had a little 12.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Okay, so the air of games. When did those starting at? I don't fucking know. Why don't know that? Tell me stuff. You don't know anything. Dumb-ass games? Why would I know when those started, dude?
Starting point is 00:05:07 I'm crying. Where's the dumbest she ever asked when? When the women's games started? Oh, God. This is why you're my dumbest friend. Okay, this is why I've been explain this shit. But things took a turn for the better. Nero comes in and he adds a bunch of shit.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Yeah, it's like gladiator games. Sick. This is wild. Is it fight to the death? What do you mean? You died in the Olympics? Yeah. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:05:26 They would do full-on gladiator games like between villages and people would like fuck each other up. Oh, I don't like that as much. So Nero came in. He was also like, yo, these games are kind of sick. Maybe I should compete. Okay. He's the emperor at the time. Keep in mind.
Starting point is 00:05:38 He's also a crazy mouth for. He, like, killed his mom. He was, like, a true tyrant. Like, he's, like, an insane human being. But he killed mad people. And then also was just like, you know, I'm an athlete. Okay. So this is where it gets wild.
Starting point is 00:05:50 He becomes emperor when he's 16. His main advisor is Seneca. If you're familiar with Seneca, he's, like, one of the most famous Stoic philosophers ever. He wrote letters from a Stoic. And he was, like, one of the main influences of Marcus Aurelius. After Seneca died. Nero goes off the rails. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Before Seneca dies, Nero's like, kind of like level headed. He's like doing a pretty good job, which is crazy that they made people emperor at 16. Like, you would think someone would have stepped in and been like,
Starting point is 00:06:13 yeah, this is stupid. Yeah, seems crazy. But Nero comes in, starts going crazy, and then starts competing in the games. Literally.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Fighting stuff or just running stuff? Everything except the things that he could die in. Yeah. And he cheated in every game. Yeah. Yeah. Because this is where it gets wild. They had musical competitions.
Starting point is 00:06:32 That was a part of the Olympics. Including poetry and singing, where his performances were reportedly mediocre at best. Despite his lack of talent, he won awards by leveraging his position. He forced the judges to declare him the victor. He had like every single event that he was in, he won. He even won a chariot race,
Starting point is 00:06:53 10 horse chariot race. It was like super skilled. It was like the elite like chariot racers at the time. He falls out of his chariot during the race, but still wins because he basically, as he says, I would have won anyway.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Oh, okay. Sweeps the Olympic Games. Like people say Michael Phelps is the most decorated Olympia. I'm pretty sure it's Nero. Yeah, it might be him. Like, he like just like crushed everyone. Wow.
Starting point is 00:07:16 And that's like the history of the Olympics, okay? Weird. So, and then it ends basically 339 AD Theodosius bans all pagan festivals. He says the Olympics were basically like a pagan festival to Zeus.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Interesting, okay. Because the Olympics were in honor. of Zeus. Yeah. It basically goes, no more pagan shit. We're going to promote Christianity. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:07:38 You guys fuck this up. Yeah, it's kind of our fault. All right. My bad. But it gets revived. When did it stop? Stops in 3993. B or A?
Starting point is 00:07:48 Dude, A.D. A.D. After our boy, you know, gets out of here. Okay. It goes back to heaven. Okay. Modern Olympics is revised. 1896.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I knew that. I didn't say it because I don't want to cut you off, but I knew that one. I don't believe that you knew that at all. I knew that, dude. I don't think you did. Because I think if you did know, you would have jumped in, but I don't think you did. I knew that.
Starting point is 00:08:07 It was held in Athens, Greece, and it was basically like a French guy that was like, you know, we need to promote world peace. We've got to bring all the people together. Okay. And then inevitably, like, the Olympics becomes like super politicized. It becomes like a whole fucking thing. Okay. But he was like, yeah, we got to bring people together. And he basically, like, launches the first Olympic Games in Athens.
Starting point is 00:08:23 How many countries in the first one? I don't know. 13. Do you actually know that? Yeah. I'm not going to look it up. I believe you. it goes on they do a couple olympies they're pretty good 1904 rolls around st louis the first one in
Starting point is 00:08:37 america fuck i'm good at this dude this is where it gets crazy i actually went to st louis and saw like where the solst thing is it's really pretty it's really cool it was like apparently they were in competition like the world's fair have you heard this yeah so what's the deal with that they were doing the world's fair and they were like oh we're going to do the olympics also to like overshadow it yeah i i don't know the full history but st louis at the time was like very popular city it was insane St. Louis is one of the only cities that had, like, its peak of population was, like, 150 years ago. What's up with the arch? Seems overrated.
Starting point is 00:09:06 It is really overrated. It's like, oh, a pathway west, but like, what does that even mean? Well, back in the day, it was like, St. Louis was the last stop before you went out with the Wild Wild West. Like, it was sort of the last stop. But I went in the arch, and, yeah, it's not that cool. You went up it? Mm-hmm. Yeah, I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:09:21 What do you look at? You get to the very top, and you're like, oh, we're looking at San Luis. Casinos on the other side. Yeah, it seems. It's not really like there's much of a view. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. 1904.
Starting point is 00:09:31 1904 Olympics might have been the greatest one ever. Really? In my opinion. Only because of one event. The 1904 marathon. Okay. This is the craziest shit I've ever read in my life. 26.2 miles.
Starting point is 00:09:45 So before, like, that got standardized at a certain point. Okay. In 1904, it's still like kind of like nebulous. Like they kind of just like roughly do it. I think this one they do is like 25 miles or something like that. I mean, that's fine. It's fine, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:00 They got 32 people competing. Apparently also, there's like a whole crazy side tangent to this that we can get into. 1904 Olympics is like when they introduce a ton of new countries. America is like bringing people in. And apparently there's anthropologists that are coming because they want to see different ethnicities race. Literally, they're just like finding like random like indigenous people of like random countries being like, hey, come to America. Jump on a boat. Come run a race.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Fool me once, right? Oh, this has got to be fun. This is like the early days of UFC when they would still wear their guns. ghee when they were like fighting. Yeah. So like you had Americans running against people from countries in which they also ran in very different attire. Different attire, different everything. Yeah, that's fun. For us holding a skull running around. Like it was insane. And they just like let it rip. And apparently anthropologists were like doing it almost as like research. But there were also some like legit athletes because like the Boston Marathon I've been going for a
Starting point is 00:10:51 little bit at this point. And so like they had legit athletes that were in there too. Plus just like people from countries just trying it out. The way that this thing goes down is insane. So Oh, 32 people start to run. Okay. In the marathon effect. In the marathon. Okay. So it starts with like five laps around like a stadium track, okay?
Starting point is 00:11:08 And then they veer off the stadium track and they're supposed to go down these roads. There was huge flooding that happened, like right before the Olympics. So they're like, you know what we're going to divert it? Because the roads are flooded. Okay. We're going to take them down dirt roads. Okay. So they're taking them down dusty roads.
Starting point is 00:11:21 The car is kind of just coming around. And so they have like cars going in front and behind them. Okay. So as the cars are going, they're kicking up dust the entire time. It's also like 95 degrees in St. Louis at this time when they're all running. So of the 32 people that start, they don't clear the course of any obstacles. So there's like delivery wagons, there's a railroad, there's a trolley, there's like people walking their dogs and shit. Wild.
Starting point is 00:11:45 So this is where it gets crazy, okay? The guy who won the 1903 Boston Marathon the year before, he's running, doing great. He's leading the whole pack. After 10 miles, he becomes ill from all of the dust that's kicked up. An American? He's an American guy He quits He's like I can't do it
Starting point is 00:12:03 Sam Meller 1902 Boston Marathon winner He's running The dust is so great Because all the cars They're in front of him He bails out He quits after like 14 miles
Starting point is 00:12:13 Another near fatality During the event was William Garcia He was found lying on the road During the marathon unconscious With several internal injuries That had been caused From breathing the clouds Of kicked up dust
Starting point is 00:12:25 It's insane It gets even crazier So someone finally crosses the finish line, okay? So 13 minutes slower than the winning time in 1900. This guy, Frederick Lores. He's the winner. Everyone's so stoked. Alice Roosevelt, the daughter of the president, Teddy Roosevelt,
Starting point is 00:12:40 comes over. They take a picture with him. They put a wreath on his head. Everyone's going crazy. They award him the gold medal. And then as people are kind of coming up, people are running up from the back, like audience members, like people that are spectating. And they're like, yo, this guy cheated.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Oh, wow. He didn't actually win. Lores had not run the entire race. He was suffering cramps and dropped out of the race after the ninth mile, hitched a ride on the back of a stadium car, and then waved at spectators as he was running and at the other runners. When the car broke down at the 19th mile, he ended up running like the last five miles across the finish line.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Wow. Pretended he was the winner. Everyone was like, dude, you won. And then immediately the other people come up, they're like, no, he didn't fucking win. Basically, the race officials were like, yeah, did you cheat? And he goes, yeah, I kind of cheated. was a joke. He's like, you understand. I was just kidding around. Okay. Yeah. Ha-haz. They ban him for life. And then his family formally apologizes. And they were like,
Starting point is 00:13:37 yo, we didn't really mean to lie. The next year, he wins the Boston Marathon. I mean, I wouldn't trust him. Crazy, right? Yeah, I wouldn't trust him at all. So he literally cheats, runs the whole thing. And then apparently he's like also an amazing runner. He just like had cramps. He was like, yo, my bad. It gets even wilder. There's this Cuban guy. he joins the marathon at the very last minute. He came from New Orleans after losing all of his money gambling. Far. He was like a degenerate Cuban gambler.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Loses all of his money. This guy, And Darren Carval. Loses all his money. He's like, yo, I'm going to hitchhike to St. Louis. And he's like,
Starting point is 00:14:11 y'all, I'm going to run it. He runs it in street clothes, cuts the legs around his pants and makes them into shorts. He hadn't eaten in 40 hours. As he's running, he sees a spectator eating peaches. He's like, yo,
Starting point is 00:14:22 kind of a peach? The spectator is like, no. And then he stole both the peaches and then just keeps on running. And then he stops off in an orchard, eat some apples, which turned out to be rotten. The rotten apples caused him to have his stomach cramps in which he lies down and takes a nap. Despite his discomfort, he ends up finishing the race in fourth place. Dude, the early 1900s are awesome. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:14:45 He just steals a bunch of fruit, eats a bunch of rotten fruit, takes a nap, and then gets fourth in like the Olympics. Yeah, it's crazy how just wide open everything was. America had an illegal immigrant running. He also could just be the mayor after that. Yeah, and then also just happened to be like an attorney and then wrote the national anthem. That's awesome. Wild, right? This French immigrant, he basically comes over, he jumps in and he's like, yo, I'm an American.
Starting point is 00:15:09 And then races for the American team. He's like, is a part of it. He just like pretends that he's American and then just like fits in. He participated in the mixed team in the four mile race and then competed for the United States in the marathon. And then it was disqualified after they were like, wait, you're not American? He was like, no. No. and then just blend it in.
Starting point is 00:15:26 There's a South African dude that finished ninth. This was a disappointment because they were like, oh, this guy's definitely going to win. Apparently he was like an amazing runner, but he got chased nearly a mile off the course by wild dogs. Wild. This is all happening in the same marathon. Oh, that's so fun.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Too bad they didn't record all of it. I know it would be like an impossibility, but a lot of stuff lost a time there. That's awesome. It's insane. The real winner, this guy, Thomas Hicks. This is a guy who must have gotten second. Yeah, exactly. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:57 He was aided by a bunch of shit that, like, wouldn't have been permitted. Yeah. So basically, like, he leads the race by, like, a mile and a half. And then he's restrained, and he ends up, like, cramping up. And so his trainer is, like, lay him down. They give him a bunch of doses of this chemical called straitonine. This is a rat poison. Fire.
Starting point is 00:16:17 It stimulates the nervous system in small doses mixed with brandy and egg white. Again, this is banned now. No. Yeah. He continued hallucinating, was barely able to walk from most of the course. He reached the stadium right at the finish line. His support team carried him over the line, holding his legs in the air as he shuffled his feet as if he was still running. And then he's carried off the track and a stretcher.
Starting point is 00:16:38 And they were like, yeah, he might have died had he not been treated by a bunch of doctors immediately thereafter. That's the guy that wins. Of the 32 people that originally raced, only 14 finished. Wow. Crazy. That's crazy. This is the early Olympics. I feel like we could have been Olympians.
Starting point is 00:16:54 For sure. Right? Like how hard could it have been? You just showed up and you're like, y'all I'm American. If you sort of made it to the finish line, you were halfway there. Right?
Starting point is 00:17:01 Yeah. This is wild. Do you know the modern marathon pace has gotten slower over time? Really? Yeah, because more people are running it. What do you mean? So like the average you mean?
Starting point is 00:17:13 The average, I'm so sorry. Yeah, the average pace at like the New York Marathon or the Boston Marathon has actually gotten slower since like the 70s because just more and more people ran it and the people that ran it in the 70s would have been people who are like committed. Like to find out about the marathon, he's sort of got to be committed in the 70s. Now it runs through your neighborhood and you're like, I want to try that out.
Starting point is 00:17:32 So the pace has gotten actually slower over time. I wonder what the average of like the New York City marathons. I don't know what off the top of my head. I know that the, it's funny, the average is getting slower, but the, uh, the qualifying time is getting faster because the elites are getting way faster, but the masses are also running. Oh, that's interesting. Wow. The average finish time at the 2023 marathon, was 439 for women and 426 for men.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Yeah. That's crazy. I wonder if you could beat the average. It's fast, that's fast. 426? 426 isn't slow. I mean, I, yeah. I mean, you could jog 426.
Starting point is 00:18:10 You think. If you just jog the whole time, right? Yeah. I ended the half. It was tough. What did you do that? I don't remember. I got bit by dog, so halfway through.
Starting point is 00:18:19 You were in 1904 marathon. A 1904 marathon, basically. type shit, you would have got first. Yeah. I'm going to tell you right now about maybe the greatest, the greatest Olympic story I think I've ever heard in my life. Okay. This is my favorite one by a mile.
Starting point is 00:18:34 I briefly told you about this before. The Spanish Paralympic basketball team. 19-08. 2000. Okay. This is an unbelievable story. So basically, like, there's been like a problem with doping in the Paralympics. Well, explain to me.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Paralympics, Special Olympics, Special Olympics. So Special Olympics was, like, created, this again, by the Kennedys. This is, like, sort of, like, local community events that happen within, like, small districts and cities across the United States. Yeah. And that's for mental disability.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Exactly. This is, like, specifically people with, like, Down syndrome and, like, other types of, like, mental issues that would cause you from not being able to, like, at, like, some type of greater level. Cool. The Olympics, obviously, it was a fucking Olympics. Yep, got the Olympics.
Starting point is 00:19:15 The Paralympics was actually started in World War II, like, after World War II, for people that were injured in the war. So, like, you lost an arm, or you lost a leg, you could still run around. Makes sense, honestly. Right? Yeah, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:19:26 So, this is where it gets crazy. 2000, Sydney Olympics, and this is maybe the greatest way to cheat ever. In the time that kind of the Paralympics started, up until 2000, they basically allowed room for people with what they called, like, intellectual disabilities to compete.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Got it. So for a long time during the Paralympics, it was just people with physical disabilities. And they were like, you know what, we need to introduce people with mental disabilities. They were like civil rights groups that were like, hey, we got to actually open this.
Starting point is 00:19:51 up to all disabled people. Okay, fine. So basically to make the team, you would have below 75 IQ. That was like their threshold. Forest gun. Yeah, exactly. And he was a great athlete. Great athlete.
Starting point is 00:20:03 One of the best. So they were like, yeah, you just had to have below this threshold. The Spanish team at the 2000 Summer Olympics crushes. In the Paralympics. In the Paralympics. In the mental 75. This is not wheelchair basketball. Got it.
Starting point is 00:20:18 This is full-blown regular hoops. 5 to 5. A couple boys getting after tossing the rock around. These guys get after it. They crush everyone. They're all celebrating. They're holding the trophy up.
Starting point is 00:20:30 They're like, dude, we fucking did it. We won. We won the Paralympic gold medal. What they didn't know is that one of the members of the team was covertly pretending to be intellectually disabled and he was actually a journalist
Starting point is 00:20:42 trying to blow the roof off of a whole thing that he thought was a scandal. Wow. And he ended up being right. Did he play? I'm pretty sure, yeah. That's crazy. He was just a journalist that was like,
Starting point is 00:20:51 Hooping also pretended to be disabled. Did the whole thing. And then leak the whole story. Wow. Apparently 10 of the 12 participants on the team were actually normal, able-bodied human beings that didn't have a below-75 IQ. Wow. So they're normal.
Starting point is 00:21:08 They're just regular fucking dudes just hanging out, pretending to be like down syndrome, like, literally pretending to have a below 75 IQ. Yeah. It's insane. And so they go through the whole thing. Their record is wild. They beat Brazil by 56 points. They beat Japan by 67 points.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Be Poland in the semifinals, 97 to 67. And then they beat Russia in the finals, 87 to 63. I think hamming it up is actually, they should have won by like five points. It's egregious. It's egregious. You're going to pretend to be Down syndrome, and then you go on to win by 56 points?
Starting point is 00:21:43 Have you seen the Incredibles when the little kid who has super speed is like, let me run track? And the dad's like, no, you can't run track. And he's like, I'll only win by a little bit. Like just win. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Only by a little bit.
Starting point is 00:21:53 And people would be like, nice. No, they were full on like, yo, we're going to fuck these dudes up. That's crazy. So they drop like 67 buckets on Japan just for fun. And so they crush them. They find out that 10 of the 12 are just completely normal. And then it goes through like a whole thing. Wow.
Starting point is 00:22:09 The actual like head of the team was like, no, this is bullshit. And then he ends up being like, yeah, I cheated. Wow. Two weeks later, the team's disqualified. They were ordered to return their gold medals. Couple things with this. These Spanish guys had to tell their families, like, you know, I'm playing for the Paralympic team.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Yeah, don't tell anybody. Like, they were literally just, like, on TV. I bet you they had friends hitting them up, like, or hitting up their siblings being like, I always knew your brother was like a little. Like a little. And then they had to be like, no, he's actually just pretending. Or you'd be pissed.
Starting point is 00:22:40 You'd be like, we got the same grades in the same classes. Yeah. I cheated off. You went to college with me. Yeah, that's so. And now you're dropping buckets in the Paralympics. That's funny. I always think what if they didn't win?
Starting point is 00:22:54 Like, what if they came like third? And they're like, damn. Then you've got to suspect the other teams. Yeah, I would immediately snitch on them be like, yo, look into fucking Yugoslavia. Yeah, look into those teams. Right? Like, they fucked us up. Some people suspect that the Russian team was also cheating.
Starting point is 00:23:07 What they get? They lost. They got lost in the final. Yeah, they got silver. But you got to the final and you were like, wait a second. These guys seem like me. Yeah. And honestly, though,
Starting point is 00:23:20 like if you want to win a gold medal this bad that you're willing to cheat in the Paralympics, like Yeah, maybe you are retarded, bro. Like, I don't, like, it's just crazy that you would want to win that bad. The coach apparently told them to pretend to be dumb. Yeah, because they're also in the Olympic village. Maybe at the same times as the Olympic athletes,
Starting point is 00:23:38 I don't know if it's all Paralympic, but like, that's got to be such a weird experience. Yeah, they have to pretend to be, like, literally they're told, like, hey, pretend to be like, if you do media, like, I don't know. Be slower. And it's like, what? And the craziest part, there's two guys on the team that are actually below 75 IQ that are actual participants.
Starting point is 00:23:55 The games were supposed to be. Make them the spokesperson, huh? They thought they won. Yeah. Send those people out whenever they do interviews. Yeah. They're like, yeah, man, that game was amazing. No one passing the ball, but I had a lot of fun out there.
Starting point is 00:24:09 No one, no one threw me the rock. You know, I was open on the three-point line a bunch of times and no one tossed it to me. That was pretty annoying. But, you know, we won, and that's all that matters. I love giving it up for my guys, my team. Wow. those two guys got stripped of their gold medals that they rightfully won. That's a bummer.
Starting point is 00:24:25 And I'm curious how they determined who was actually above 75 IQ afterwards. Yeah. Like I would have just, but you can flood that so easy, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I guess you're right. You could just go down.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Right? Just be like, oops, no, no. Yeah, do the capture test. It's like pick a fire hydrant. Yeah, I can see why this, it was a good intention and you needed to have people that were also good intention. to do exactly what they're hoping to do,
Starting point is 00:24:53 and it's impossible. Yeah. Because people are going to cheat. After this, they basically banned this whole division. So now it's only physical disabilities. I think they reintroduced it in 2009 for swimming. I don't know why. According to the IEPC, they basically were like,
Starting point is 00:25:09 okay, people with intellectual disabilities are allowed to compete again in the swimming event of the European Championships. How interesting. I don't know why swimming. It's a mystery to me. But they were basically like, and then they introduced like this.
Starting point is 00:25:20 thing of like sports intelligence to like try to like confirm people like they up like their testing regulations and shit. Interesting. But they like banned it for a long time and they're like yeah, these guys ruined the whole thing. That's so interesting. Have you ever watched the Paralympics? Two things about the Paralympics. I mean on YouTube whenever they have the craziest thumbnails. I'm like, yeah, I'll take it to you. There's Instagram or TikTok is insane. It's like a Gen Z kid that is just making the funniest videos in the world. And it's awesome. Good for them. Whoever's in charge of the Paralympics like the social team, great job. Secondly, the parent lyrics are really interesting because they have to equalize the field.
Starting point is 00:25:55 It's very rigorous level of sporting. It's a very high level. And they have to make it equal across the board, which is very hard because a person missing a full part of their leg versus missing part of their leg in the same swimming event would be very hard to navigate. Yeah. So they actually have like tons of micro categorization. So, like, in swimming, there are people who are swimming against each other that may not have arms versus someone who's, like, missing a hand, a leg. It's very interesting how it is. It's also interesting, like, the blind athletes.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Being blind, quote unquote, doesn't mean that you only see black. There's, like, all these varying degrees of blind. Yeah, something about the straw. And then there's, like, legal blindness. And there's all these different varying levels. So to make them equal, they will play with blindfolds on. you have some sight versus someone who doesn't have sight. But like, is that for every game?
Starting point is 00:26:53 There's no way. I think so. You do darts blindfolded? No, no, not every game. There's also really interesting, like, I forget the word it would be, but like the changes they make to the game. So like the, there's something called like blind baseball or blind soccer where the ball makes noise. The hockey puck has a, as a, I don't know if this is for the Paralympic thing, but I do know people that have participated in blind hockey. I've seen a video of this with soccer.
Starting point is 00:27:19 like they bang on the goalposts. To show them. Yeah. It's really fascinating how they've like made the parent Olympics like have parity and equity. Yeah. Compared to equal. It's really interesting. They're trying to put everyone at the same level.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Yeah. It's like a really fascinating event and thing. We should do that. Yeah. Like I feel like there's certain events like javelin. No, I bet there's certain events they can't even do. Imagine. But yeah, I'd be really interested in know.
Starting point is 00:27:48 And, like, there are rules and regulations to, like, electric wheelchair speed. There's, like, really finite and minute. I would hack that immediately. Granular, like, granular. I'm doing an electric wheelchair in the marathon. I'm just blazing through that shit. It's taken off. Yeah, they should do that.
Starting point is 00:28:04 They should do electric wheelchair marathon. 100 meter would be awesome. Have McLaren get in there. Mercedes? Let it rip. Just fucking rip. Yeah. Instant torque.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Yeah, let them all do steroids and let them gas up. Yeah, getting the basketball, like, wheel. wheelchair shit. Let that shit be juiced. That shit's wild. They fall a lot. And I'm always afraid, like, what if you broke her home? Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, it's a little sketchy. What's up, guys? We're going to take a break really quick because you need to get your labs done. Yes, you know what I'm talking about. Maybe you're 35. You feel your testosterone starting to go down a little bit. You got to get your blood work done. See what's going on inside your body. Maybe you're 25. Maybe you're 27 like me and you're like, I don't need to do this.
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Starting point is 00:30:44 His story is crazy. I know something. Yeah. You know the thing. Yeah. So he basically went to prison for what they called like a culpable murder. There's like a specific South African law. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:58 For murdering his girlfriend. This would be, I imagine similar to like American manslaughter. similar. Okay. But basically it's like you shot at someone recklessly without knowing what was going on. Interesting. So the story as it unfolds, okay, basically like what's a proven fact. Did he meddle in both?
Starting point is 00:31:16 Just before we go back. I don't think he meddled in the Olympics. Interesting. Okay. I need to double check that, but I don't think he did. He like swept in the Paralympics. Yeah. And then there was big controversy from what I understand.
Starting point is 00:31:25 What I remember was like do his blades, which are the things attached to the bottom of his legs, which are carbon fiber. did they make him faster than actual athletes? And then there was like a whole debate on like, can the athletes even complain about this? Or is it sort of like their hands are tied in the fact that they can't complain that like the guy with no legs is also competing?
Starting point is 00:31:46 Well, he never won. He never meddled in the Olympics. Interesting. As far as I can see here. Okay. Ran for South Africa. Ran for South Africa. In the Paralympics, he like crushed everyone.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Wild. 100 meter, 2012. You won a gold. 400 meters. Like, he was like a stud in the Paralympics. And the murder back to that is now. That was not an Olympic vent. That was completely separate.
Starting point is 00:32:04 That was not a part of it. They have archery, but this was completely separate. Okay. So, they also have air rifle. Yeah. So the facts that everyone knows, that's, like, guaranteed, is that he fired four shots at his girlfriend
Starting point is 00:32:17 through a door and killed her. Crazy. But it gets even crazier, and there's, like, a ton of speculationist about, like, what actually happened. So basically the way it's kind of, like, told from, like, his side is I'll wake up in the middle of the night. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:33 I hear something going on downstairs. Okay. I pop down there. I have my gun. I hear the intruder on the other side of the door. I fire four shots, kill the intruder, open the door and then realize, oh, shit, it's actually my girlfriend. Eakes. Huge misunderstanding.
Starting point is 00:32:49 A tragic event. Yeah. That's more or less his side. A real oopsie. Just a fucking whoops. You know what I mean? That happens. And sometimes you have a fucking whoops on every now and again.
Starting point is 00:32:58 It's just like, I've whoops before. for you know what I mean yeah okay so what's the other story so that's kind of like how it's originally framed okay the other side that some people suspect is him and his girlfriend get into an argument on valentine's day it becomes a whole blowout they're yelling at each other nonstop she runs in the bathroom to hide and then he murders her by shooting four times into the bathroom realizes oh shit i killed my girlfriend i just meant to scare it was a bathroom door yeah oh god it It wasn't like a front door. No.
Starting point is 00:33:29 That's what I thought it was before I even looked into it. The head, the little movie I just played in my head is him looking down like a set of stairs or a hallway and the front door is there. Or like maybe the foyer door, like the front door and then the second door. No. And he sees the door handle jiggle and then he shoots through it. The bathroom door. Oh. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:33:47 And so this is kind of like her side and like her defense's side. It's like would have been hers. Yeah. Goes into the bathroom, hides. and then he fires a bunch of shots into the bathroom, either to scare her and then, like, intimidate her or to kill her. And then she dies. And then he's like, oh, fuck, he killed my girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:34:05 I got to make it look like there's a scene here, breaks down the door with a cricket bat, and then gets in, and it's like, oh, my God, and then calls the police. It's a huge dispute. There's a big 30 for 30 on it that kind of breaks down the whole thing. I love 30 for 30. Yeah, they're awesome.
Starting point is 00:34:17 And this one apparently is super good. I didn't see it, but apparently it's awesome. What people point out when they look at his defense, and he's like, look, I just got up. I thought it was an intruder. A couple things. So one, he's living in South Africa. Burglary is like a little bit common in his part of, like, Pretoria where he lives.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Yeah. Furthermore, he's tweeted a bunch of times, and he's even talked about the fact that, like, he had to respond to a home invasion one time. One time he tweeted and he was like, don't you love it when you come home and your washing machine is making all this noise and you think it's an intruder, so you have to go tactical on your laundry room? Interesting. So he's sort of paranoid. He's a little paranoid. Got it. And it's a place where it's common.
Starting point is 00:34:52 So I was sort of justified or at least like, yeah, okay. So he wakes in the middle of the night To go get a fan from another room because he's hot Wakes up here's some shit happening downstairs He's like what the fuck's going on with that Gets his gun from under his bed Goes up to the door Apparently he yells
Starting point is 00:35:08 There's like disputing testimony on this From like the witnesses Fires four shots of what he believes is the intruder All the doors are locked The only way that you could have gone in is through like the upstairs window The window apparently doesn't open big enough For a person to even get through A little tiny bathroom window
Starting point is 00:35:24 It's a tiny little window the bathroom door is not just like a door to the bathroom, it's a door specifically to the toilet. Oh, got it. So it's like there's a bathroom door, and there's a shower and a sink, and then there's a toilet door. I always like bathrooms like that.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Oh, they're great. You go to a hotel? You're like, oh, that's kind of nice. It's double privacy from no one? Yeah. It's sick. Apparently he goes in and just fires into the bathroom. I don't like this.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Crazy. Yeah. And people are like, wait, so you woke up in the night, you had to walk past your wife side of the, or your girlfriend's side of the bed to get to the bathroom. Yeah. Didn't notice that she wasn't there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Didn't yell at the intruder, da-da, da-da, and just fired shots anyway. Into the toilet room. Exactly. Yeah. So it looked like, according to some people, that he was going to get convicted regardless. Yeah. Because you can't just shoot at someone in South however the way the laws are set of. You can't just shoot at someone without knowing, one, what's going on.
Starting point is 00:36:17 There's no imminent threat to you. They're behind a locked door. So even if it was an intruder, I think he would have faced jail time anyway. Interesting. He goes to prison for like, some like nine years. Wow. And then ultimately gets out this year, January, 2024. Oh, well, welcome back.
Starting point is 00:36:34 So he's free in the world. Yeah. Crazy story from a former medalist. Wow. Yeah. They don't take your metal away. I don't imagine. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:36:45 I mean, some people have got their medals taken away. Like the guy that won the first snowboarding gold medal. Can you even imagine? this is in 1998. What do you think it was? What would a snow weed? Exactly. Oh, that's so funny.
Starting point is 00:37:00 He wins gold in like, I think the slalom. Wow. And then gets his medal taken away like three days later because he tests positive for THC. Wow, a ski bum. Literally. There's a whole fucking thing about this.
Starting point is 00:37:13 So he claims, again, at the time, he's like a young dude, like snowboarding is just on the horizon. They tell him before the Olympics, like, yeah, you can't smoke weight. He goes, no problem, that's fine. Okay. He claims that it was due to secondhand exposure.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Yeah. So he's like, bro, my boys were fucking lighten up. Yeah. It's going to happen. And apparently it's possible to have had that happen because the amount of like we like T.HC actually found in his bloodstream extremely low. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Like literally it was in like, I think he even said it on a late night with Jay Leno. He was like, dude, it was like a billionth of a gram. Wow. There's something to that effect. It's like an extremely small amount. Okay. So they basically try to take his metal away. like the Canadian commission
Starting point is 00:37:53 backs him up and they're like... Canadian guy? Yeah, Canadian dude from Whistler I think. Oh cool. They back him up and they're like, no, this is bullshit. He's able to keep his medal. But it becomes like a whole issue. He's banned from entering the United States.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Like specifically put on a no fly list that's created after September 11th. Wow. He's not able to compete in any of the X games. What the fuck? Insane. If there's a place where weed smoking is prevalent, it's the fucking X games.
Starting point is 00:38:21 of the early 2000. They don't let them into the country. This is crazy. Not able to get into the X-Games. And then in April 1998, the IOC officially banned cannabis use. So they banned it completely. And then they sort of changed it.
Starting point is 00:38:33 And by 2013, they raised the limit. Thank God. So it was like, at the time, it was like 15. Like picograms? Yeah, blah, blah, blah. I don't even know what that is nanograms per milliliter.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Yeah. And they raised it to 150. And that basically bars the threshold where it's like, oh, you just aren't using it during the event. Why? Whatever. They're basically like, you can't use it while you're competing.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Because some people believe it could be a performance hands in fact. Sure. And so they're like, you can't use it while we're competing. But if it's in your blood from three months ago, then, you know, we're not going to clip you for that. Apparently, I was looking into a Shihari Richardson. I think she had above that threshold. Interesting. So she probably possibly, allegedly.
Starting point is 00:39:14 I think she said that she had used during. American Queen. I'm not in any way disparaging her. I think she said she was using during the trials. Which is fucking so sick, dude. Yeah. If you're getting beat by a girl who's like, toked up, lungs are cooked,
Starting point is 00:39:28 just ripping. That's like Michael Phelpship. Yeah, literally. Yeah. So he ends up going on and creating a weed brand called Ross Gold. Smart. And like now is like one of like the leading guys in like Canadian legalization of weed. Oh, that's smart.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Ends of getting involved in like local politics and shit. Like he's like big on it. And is a straight up. Olympic gold medals first gold medal in Snowboard. But you got to take it away, you said? They try to take it away. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. I mean, good for the Canada, stand enough for their boy.
Starting point is 00:39:57 The Michael Phelps thing is so bullshit, too. It lost his Wheaties deal. And, like, catalogs, all that shit. Got, like, taken from him. Apparently, Visa stood by it, which is sick. That is sick. Basically, for him that doesn't know. This happened, like, 2009, I think.
Starting point is 00:40:09 He's at, like, a college party in, like, Charleston, South Carolina. Interesting. Ripping out of a bong, a picture leaks. A student, like, takes a picture and shares it. Crazy. No, bitch. Right. You assume it's a woman racist.
Starting point is 00:40:21 No, I don't mean that. Like, what a bitch as a woman. I meant like, what a bitch. Just like, what a bad person. As a guy. Like, he's acting like a woman. He is a bad person. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Leaks it. And it goes out. And then he apparently loses like a ton of money. At the time, he's already like an Olympic gold medalist. Yeah, yeah. He's 23 at the time. That's what people don't consider. Like, oh, this kid was 23.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Yeah. And his whole world comes crashing out. He obviously is like now super outspoken with like mental health shit and like apparently struggles. It's got a great book called Under the Surface. It's like an amazing book. That's a good title. But like he deals with like anxiety and a bunch of stuff.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Yeah. You can imagine, oh, I just want a bunch of gold medals. I'm dealing with a lot of shit. I just want to toke up one time with my boys. Yeah. And they try to ruin his life over a bong rip. Yeah, which is funny because he was like that guy. He was like the clean cut one of the group.
Starting point is 00:41:13 But Ryan Lockheed, he was smoking so much weed. There's no doubt in my mind. Do you know the Lockhe's story? No, I don't. This sounds like we've set this up. We're moving very quick. We're like doing a great job pinging off each other. Yeah, it turns out we have fucking chemistry, dude.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Yeah, we got a lot of chemistry, dude. There's no way we could have scripted this. I know nothing. Four beers deep in the middle of pods. I have no idea what you're gonna say. What's the Lockhees story? 2016, they do the Brazil Olympics, right? Yep.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Did you hear about this gas station event that happened? Oh, he got, like, robbed. Crazy. So, Ryan Lockie, again, like an amazing Olympian. No doubt. Like an insane dude. We'd love to get him on Camp Gagnon. Specifically, yes.
Starting point is 00:41:54 So the way the story kind of goes, he wakes up and he starts reporting like, yo, I got held up at gunpoint. On like Twitter? He does like a TV appearance. He like reports it internally. Oh, yeah. I remember watching this. So he reports it internally and then goes on news and is like,
Starting point is 00:42:11 yo, a guy like held a gun to my head. Crazy. And then apparently people tweeted like, yo, like Lockheed was just like, I had a gun held to his head. We got robbed, da-da-da-da-da. And it was like, yo, look how dangerous Rio is. Like, this is insane. Again, this is 2016.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Apparently, that's not exactly what happened. And there's disputes over what happened. Okay. So basically, they're, like, out-drinking. It's him and this kid, Jimmy Fagan. Or Feigen. Yeah. And they're out drinking.
Starting point is 00:42:38 They're having a good time. They meet up with a couple other teammates. They go to, like, a gas station or, like, a little, like, convenience store. And they're, like, hammered. And they're just, like, peeing. You know what I mean? Just fucking doing guy shit. And again, it's still sort of disputed what exactly happened.
Starting point is 00:42:52 They claimed that like someone came up and robbed him with a gun to their head. Like, yo, give me all your shit. Yeah. What the store owner claims is they came in, they peed on my building, they ripped down the sign, they went in the bathroom, broke the soap dispenser, fucked up the whole bathroom. And then I checked them and was like, yo, are you going to pay for that shit? And then they gave me money as like a sorry. And then that was it.
Starting point is 00:43:13 It's alleged they find like security guard and they get like a bunch of security. Apparently the Brazilian government's like pissed about this because they're like, yeah, we're doing an Olympic event, and you're saying that Olympians got robbed when actually you guys were being dickheads. They were, like, doing crazy shit to clean up Rio. Yeah, every Olympic games. Like, you go, look how sick our country is.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So apparently this is a little tricky for Rio. Yeah. And so they all of a sudden have this bad press from one of like the most acclaimed Olympians. Yeah. He's like, getting robbed. And they're like, yeah, this is fucked up.
Starting point is 00:43:38 So they start investigating. They find a security guard that's apparently on duty. And the security guard story is like, yeah, they came in, they were being rowdy, and there was a gun involved. But it was never pointed at anybody And they gave the money up Great
Starting point is 00:43:54 What I'm suspecting happened Just based off of everything that I've put together Again, Locky still says to this day As far as I understand He's like The story about me vandalizing the bathroom is absurd It never happened Okay
Starting point is 00:44:06 He was like there's no damage to the bathroom The door was locked I couldn't even go in there I never went in What I think happened is that they came in Kind of drunk They were fucking around the gas station They peed outside Just doing what guys do
Starting point is 00:44:17 Sometimes some shit happens They probably bumped into an aisle. Maybe one person went in the bathroom and, like, peed on the fucking toilet seat. The store owner was like, oh, these dumb Americans are coming to my spot, ruining my whole thing. He checks them and has, like, a gun on his waist and pulls it out. He's like, you guys got to pay for this shit. Never points it at anyone, but he, like, is intimidating them. They give up their money.
Starting point is 00:44:37 And then they call it a day. Yeah. These guys are not pissed. Like, yo, did that guy fucking threaten us? Apparently, Lockhe claims that he was still drunk the next morning when he gave the interview on TV. And he was like, yeah. I shouldn't have said that. I technically lied.
Starting point is 00:44:51 So I think they both embellished the truth, like support their side. So the store owner was like, yeah, they fucked my whole place up. I don't think that's true. That's crazy. And then him being like, yo, they pointed a gun on my head. And that's also not true. So I think it was like, they were being annoying and loud. This guy was trying to like catch a little lick, but also like,
Starting point is 00:45:06 you know, stop fucking my place. And then had his gun on him to freak him out. And then they ended up giving their money up. But like, as they were trying to leave the country, they got their passports taken off and they were pulled off the airplane. So they're like, yo, we got to question you more. We got to get into this. insane.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Wild. Yeah, dude. These Olympic boys get wild, dude. Yeah, the Olympics don't sound like they ever went sort of without a hitch. Never. Almost never. Oh, there's even more shit. We're just scratching the surface right now.
Starting point is 00:45:35 One of my favorite ones, this is like up there with like maybe the all-time greatest Olympic event. Angel Matos. Anhell Matos is probably a better way to pronounce his name. But Angel also works, I think. this is a taekwondo athlete from Cuba 2008 Beijing Olympics so apparently the judging
Starting point is 00:45:54 for this Olympic Games has been like terrible in Taekwondo there's been a bunch of fights and a bunch of like matches that have been like contested and like weird judging has gone on Matos is winning 3-2 in the round or in the whole match he's like he's crushing this guy right 3-2
Starting point is 00:46:11 he's doing his thing basically with a minute two left in the second round he falls to the mat after being hit by his opponent, this Kazak guy. He's sitting there, his toes fucked up. He's like, damn, he's waiting medical attention. In the Olympic Games, you have one minute for like a medical break. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:31 He ends up taking one minute, two seconds. Time runs out. He gets pissed. Rightfully so. He's disqualified. He's like, yo, what the fuck? One minute, two seconds. The judge is like, yo, it's one minute.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Like, you fucked up. Okay. He gets pissed. pushes the referee and then out of nowhere full on face kicks the referee wow the groundhouse kick to the head literally the refs needs like stitches like they all like come in
Starting point is 00:46:59 they question the coach and they're like you're coaching this guy are you sorry for what he did he goes the ref was way too strict and then claims that the Kazakh team tried to offer him money to throw the fight wild Great, like straight up just kicks the ref in the face
Starting point is 00:47:17 Oh, sick, I love a video. Okay. So he's waiting a matter of him to see he stands up And he's like, yo, what's the problem? Like, yo, what's good? They're celebrating. He walks over to the ref and he's like, yo, this is some bullshit, bro.
Starting point is 00:47:32 This is some bullshit. Like, there's no way you can do this. Bang! Wow. Kicks him in the face. Starts to check him. People rush in. They're like, hey, you can't just kick the ref in the face.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Wow. He punches like another judge. He's like, yo, this is bullshit. Gets banned forever. I mean, sort of. or rightfully so. Yeah, you can kind of see both sides. Who beat him, Kazakhstan?
Starting point is 00:47:52 Yeah, a Kazik guy beat him. Apparently, this guy was like nice. He was like fucking people up. That's crazy. Wild, right? And apparently the judge was like messed up the whole time. It was like a whole controversy.
Starting point is 00:48:02 People were really pissed about it. And specifically fighting and a lot of like the judging sports have like a ton of these kind of controversies. Yeah, I'm sure. I mean, I think judging sports to me are the hardest ones to like sort of... I just don't believe in them, bro.
Starting point is 00:48:13 I'm like, you can't... You gotta race the clock. like figure skating that's cool diving that's awesome it's cool but it has to be judged by someone yeah I don't like that it's a judge then
Starting point is 00:48:28 it makes sense though the harder the dive you're going to do the more points you potentially could get so you're encouraged to do more technical dives like a harder thing to diving bro like if it's not going to be like yo you won or you lost yeah I'm like yeah this is crazy
Starting point is 00:48:45 it's just like some guy that's like, yeah, I'm going to figure it out. Like, I don't know. I just, like, again, I don't know for shit about figure skating, but like I watched two figure skaters. I'm like, yeah, they're both amazing. Can I tell you a modern controversy that's happening right now? In the American Olympics right now, there is a, uh, they used to pick male gymnasts and female gymnasts, I'm sure, the same way, but they would pick them based on sort of like judgment and guessing. It was sort of like a scouting thing. And there was people who've been
Starting point is 00:49:15 in gymnastics for 40, 60 years. and there were the coaches and they were the scouts and whatever, and they'd pick these people based on who they think could win if they all did well and got the most points. Because it's not like it's a team sport technically. And you gain points and the whole thing wins. And then you can win as a team. The Olympic gymnastics teams will win.
Starting point is 00:49:36 They switched to a algorithm that will pick the best person based on each one. And this year there's a controversy because, the people that the algorithm picked isn't technically like the best isn't agreed upon by any of the quote unquote like Olympic gymnastic experts who have been in the game for like 40, 60 years. These are like coaches. These are veteran officials. But the algorithm picked a guy who only does one event and is the best at that one event.
Starting point is 00:50:10 So they're hoping to win there. But isn't good at any other event. So it's a very like, it's a very different strategy this year on the, US Olympic team than years past to win the whole thing. So what is a strategy? You have to just pick, do this one event that is what the algorithm picked? Yeah, the algorithm picked these people. And the algorithm has done like, it's AI, it's the whole thing, a billion iterations of like who would do the best if you had them all together. And they picked people that the like official team, I guess like heads and coaches
Starting point is 00:50:41 and other people who are industry experts where like this isn't quote unquote the best team. or the team that maybe they would pick. I don't know if they would say best. I don't like the judging thing. Like the AI thing feels a little more fair because at least it's like standardized. Like even though like the governing bodies don't pick this person, at least there is a standard that they understand.
Starting point is 00:50:58 It's like baseball scouting. Like at one point it was a guy that was like he's really good. Now they have data. And now they have a ton of data. So I kind of support that a little more. But like there's just so many these events where it's like, like for example, 1988, Seoul Olympics.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Great logo. This South Korean boxer. Again, this is in Seoul. South Korean boxer Parksy Hun beats Roy Jones Jr. In the final. Korea versus America. They're going at it. Roy Jones Jr., with all due respect, is fucking this guy up.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Yeah. Crushing him. Undenisably one of the best American boxers in the history. Ever. Yeah. Again, he's an amateur at this point because with Olympic boxing, you have to be amateur. He's fucking this guy up. It goes to the decision.
Starting point is 00:51:43 And the judges are like, of course, South Korean boxer. Parksy Hun wins. It's like huge controversy. Parksy Hunt is like, I don't deserve this. I just got my fucking teeth kicked in for the last like however many rounds. Lifts up Roy Jones Jr.
Starting point is 00:51:57 He's like, yo, fucking get off me. It's like actually super awkward. And it becomes a huge nightmare. They interviewed Roy Jones Jr. And he's like, yo, I got fucked up.
Starting point is 00:52:05 There's not the first time this happened to me. This is going to happen probably more times, but I might be done with boxing. Like, fuck this shit. Wow. He literally says, he's like, yeah, this might be the last time ever box. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:12 It's not the last time every box. Went on to go on to be one of the grades. He did a great job. This other guy, Parksy Hun, quits boxing. Oh. He's so, like, embarrassed and forever, like, mortified by this event. He basically says, you know what? I'm done boxing.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Quits boxing forever goes and be, he, like, ends up becoming, like, a, goes on to, like, school, becomes, like, a P.E. coach. He ends up, like, coaching, like, an Olympic boxing team much later. But, like, quits. And in his words, I was robbed of my well-deserved silver medal. Wow. He was, like, ashamed that he won a gold. And then apparently the judges admitted to being whined and dined by Korean officials prior to the match.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Yeah, it wouldn't be weird if it was like a random country versus America because then it's like, okay, maybe there was favoritism, whatever. But when it's your own country within and it's being hosted by that country, it sort of feels icky. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, it wouldn't be weird if Japan beat him. So the same thing happens to Floyd Mayweather. Oh, wow. Much later.
Starting point is 00:53:14 This is how crazy it is. So again, he's fighting this dude. I think he's Bulgarian. Okay. He fucks him up. They get to the final. He obviously won. He knows what time it is.
Starting point is 00:53:23 He fucked this dude up for however many rounds. Hands up. He's ready. Again, Floyd's like undefeated professionally, obviously much after this. But like up until this point, he's like still one of the greatest. The judge raises his hand and then goes, wait. Hang on a second. He didn't say Floyd Mayweather.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Wow. And then there's like confusion because the judge lifted the wrong guy's hand. Yeah. But then there's a ref lifted the wrong guy's hand. but then the judges said the other guy's name yeah wow so they bring him back they put his hands up and they bring him back and like yo this guy
Starting point is 00:53:50 actually won they like redo the whole thing and they're like yeah Floyd lost it's like that Oscars they flubbed the oh yeah exactly literally everyone was confused even the ref the ref was like how did this guy lose he just fucked this dude up the entire time yeah now this is in no defense
Starting point is 00:54:05 of what this happened I imagine this those are both legitimate controversies but in Olympic boxing versus I guess what you'd call like American boxing or like the boxing that you see on television, like the heavyweight, all that kind of stuff. Olympic boxing is much more technical,
Starting point is 00:54:20 correct? It's like a much more like... Yeah, it's like the point scoring system, which apparently they've changed and like kind of like had it to since these controversies. Oh, okay. And they've tried to like standardize it a little more, but Olympic boxing scoring is different than pro box.
Starting point is 00:54:30 It's not like for knockouts. It's for like punches landed in strategic places. And they also don't account for power, I don't think. Yeah. Olympic boxing is just touches. Yeah, it's something about like a circle on the glove that if it touches, it's quote unquote a point. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Interesting. I'm not in any way like downplaying those controversies. Just explaining. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, there's slightly different. There are different scoring. But this, even amongst like all the people that are Olympic people are like, yeah, this is bullshit. Yeah, if the Olympic ref is like, what the fuck? Maybe one of my favorite cheating scandals is this guy Boris Onshenko. Okay. He's a fencer from Soviet Russia, 1996. He's a fencer, right? Yeah. And so in fencing, again, the way it works, similar to boxing, once you tag someone with, your repay, I guess what they call it, or your sword. Once you hit... Yeah, I don't know what the term is.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Sword. I like sword. Once you hit him with your sword, it basically will close a circuit because the sword has to get hit with a certain amount of force. Once it's bent a certain amount, it connects the circuit with your suit, with the sword, and then to the box that the judges have. This guy puts a button
Starting point is 00:55:36 inside of the handle of his sword. Wow. Okay. And circumvents his whole thing. Somehow they don't check it, or when they do check it, he's able to obscure it. And then every time he goes and touches the guy's body with the actual sword, he pushes the button. Wow. So he's winning all these matches and all the people he's fighting us are like, he tagged
Starting point is 00:55:54 me that many times and the coaches are like, I guess he did. I don't know. They don't have instant. Yeah, you got to trust this system. And they're like, yeah, I mean, the refs said he did. He goes all up to the final wins gold and then gets his actual medals taken from him. He's like disgrace. He's known as Boris the cheat. Wow. And then just goes and lives a life as a taxi driver in Soviet Russia. That's crazy that you're.
Starting point is 00:56:13 able to like cheat that blatantly. It's wild, right? Again, there's a ton of cheat. There's like this one story of like in 1984, Los Angeles Olympics, this Puerto Rican sprinter, Madeline de Jesus was caught swapping places with her twin sister. So she goes out for the Olympics, get sick. Awesome, dude.
Starting point is 00:56:32 She gets sick before her event. She's a sprinter. Yeah. And she's like, oh, fuck. And so basically here's her calculation. She's like doing the first initial heats. And she's like, oh, I can't really make it for my event. That-da-da-da-da.
Starting point is 00:56:42 she basically tells her twin sister you know sub in from her twin sister is not an Olympic athlete she's just there to support well she's like go in my place her twin sister subs in does the Olympic event and qualifies them for the next round in 84 84 in like the lower heats I think it was like a relay or something like that effect god damn any woman can just fucking get out there and I'm sure
Starting point is 00:57:05 because her sister ran she's athletic like whatever but not an Olympian yeah and then the person that figured it out was like a reporter that no notice that one of them has a freckle on their cheek, another one doesn't. I was like, that's weird. The reporter is looking a little too close. Right. I think the real controversy is the reporter.
Starting point is 00:57:21 It's a me too issue. That's really what we need to look into. But apparently that's like, like got them disqualified. Wow. And the whole team apparently got bounced for it. My favorite, my favorite ever doping scandal, this one is unreal. It was actually pretty recent. So this happens in 2008, Norwegian writer, Tony Andre Hansen.
Starting point is 00:57:42 in the 2008 Olympics He's basically like an equine expert Okay, he's like an equine Olympian He jumps horses Which apparently horse jumping is a part of like The Olympics. I think horse sports That should be it
Starting point is 00:57:55 We gotta get that out of there He gets disqualified of his bronze medal For doping Crazy right Okay, tell me who's doping the horse or the guy? The horse Oh, that's great How crazy is that?
Starting point is 00:58:10 I was joking It's not a joke Okay The horse is doping. So basically when the horses jump, sometimes though their little, like, little hooves will hit the edge of, like, the little bar they're jumping over.
Starting point is 00:58:21 And it's a little painful, but it's not too bad. But if you give the horse's capsaicin literally what's found in peppers. Yeah, hot shit. You give them capsusin. It makes them more sensitive to pain. Oh, this is fucked. So it forces them to jump higher.
Starting point is 00:58:38 And so he uses it, and he only gets bronze, for the record. And then they, test his horse and they're like, wait, you were using caps aison? And he was like, yeah. What, they interview the horse? Mr. Ed? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:49 So what's the deal? He's like, dude, I didn't want to do it. My lips are really burning right now. Yeah. And he ends up winning a bronze because of this illegal capsaicine use. What happens? Obviously lose, I imagine. Yeah, I think banned.
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Starting point is 01:01:10 But it wasn't him. Oh, weird. Someone else on his team during a relay was caught doping. Ah, interesting. Because someone on the relay team, four by 400. He loses his gold medal too. Oh, that's such a bummer. So he went three for three on his events.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Yeah. One gold in all of them. 100, 200, four by 100, I imagine. And then because one of his teammates is using drugs, using steroids, he loses his gold and two for three. He famously didn't want to get sick before his big races in 2008, 2012. I don't remember what year, but famously didn't want to get sick. So he went to McDonald's, something that he knew formerly and, like, knew wouldn't fuck
Starting point is 01:01:52 him up. And he ate chicken nuggets before he ran. Only chicken nuggets. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, it's kind of far. It just goes to show I'm an Olympic athlete. Yeah. I mean, if you're in foreign land, you're not going to risk it.
Starting point is 01:02:02 You know what I mean? They don't have beef patties and redstripe wherever he was. You know what I mean? So he's like, yeah, I got to keep it consistent. with whatever I got. I'm not going to risk it. They don't have ox tail in fucking German wherever the fuck he is.
Starting point is 01:02:11 You know what I mean? So you got to stick with the chicken nugs. I respect it. That's funny. One of the craziest things that I didn't know about. Yeah. Did you ever hear about this dude
Starting point is 01:02:19 Greg Lugianus? No. This is the dude that hits his head when he's doing the dive. Oh, these are brutal to watch. This is wild. Yeah. He's a diver,
Starting point is 01:02:29 crushes his head against the diving board as he's jumping in. He's like, obviously, that attempt is decued. People are like, are you okay? Can you do it? A lot of the water type. Blood in the water.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Yeah. He ends up being like, you know what, let me give it another try. Crazy. Gives it another attempt, wins gold. Wow. They find out later that he's HIV positive and didn't tell anyone. So there's blood in the water and he's just like, oh, I mean, it's fine. I mean, technically fine.
Starting point is 01:02:58 I imagine. I mean, like from us. It's HIV, bro. I understand, I understand. But I imagine it's technically fine. I mean, no one got HIV. Yeah, so it's fine. but it was a crazy like
Starting point is 01:03:08 purple. I remember seeing the video of the dude hitting his head being like, oh yeah, God, that's crazy. And then he wins gold and you're like, oh, that's amazing. And you're like, wait, he's HIV positive. What the fuck? Good for him for fucking Magic Johnson. That shit. Yeah, he ends up thugging it out. What country? I think he's American.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Wow. I don't know, I got to check that. But pretty crazy, right? That's insane. Maybe like, okay, let's get into the more like morbid Olympic events. Moreb morbid Olympic things. We've had HIV positive people. someone die so far let's do it did right yeah the nazi olympics 36 1936 Berlin Jesse owens shows out
Starting point is 01:03:46 yeah so there's some great like American folklore from this Olympics it's crazy yeah so he pulls up adi Dossler the founder of Adidas he visits owens and he's like you should wear adida shoes this is the first sponsorship of an african-american athlete wow adidas they're like yeah just wear our shit he ends up winning goals in the 200 meter sprint. Do you know who he beat? No. A guy named Mack Robinson.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Hmm. Does that name ring a bell? No, I wish it. Jackie Robinson's older brother. Oh, I've heard this. How crazy is that? Fucking nuts. Jackie Robinson, the guy that broke the color barrier in baseball.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Yeah. His older brother happens to also be a freak athlete. Makes sense. And he's going to win gold. Wow. And then Jesse Owens takes it. Wow. Wild, right?
Starting point is 01:04:35 That's insane. So in the games, obviously, like, Hitler's like a big point of contention. It's like a whole thing. He's like on meth apparently. He's like at the Olympics, like tapping his foot, like going crazy. Oh, yeah, because by 36, he's like addicted to methamphetamines at this point. Yeah. And like, you know, they're trying to look at like this Reich is like, yeah, we're like a legit country.
Starting point is 01:04:52 Yeah. We treat people fair. Da, da, da, da. He only shakes hands with the, uh, the German gold medalist. That night, um, he apparently is like really cool with Jesse Owens. No. Like in private. Yeah. And he's like, yeah, he gave him a friendly smile and a Nazi salute, according to Jesse Owens. FDR doesn't give him anything.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Yeah, I've heard this. I've heard this. The president of the United States like snubs him kind of. Like he invites much people to the White House, all the white Olympians go, but like the black Olympians aren't invited. I mean, we're like 25 plus years from civil rights, which is crazy to think. Yeah, it's insane. And so he was almost like, wait a second, what the fuck? Like, why am I being treated better by Nazis? insane, right? I think he famously said he was treated better by Hitler than he was FDR. Yeah, I've heard that.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Yeah, I don't, I'm assuming that's true. Apparently he wins four gold medals for America. But like the Nazi Olympics are like a whole big thing. It's crazy to me. That like in the middle of like this entire like coup of power, Hitler comes in and they've run an Olympics and like apparently it goes pretty well. It really legitimizes them apparently on like the national. scale. It's crazy, right? Yeah. Like, this country is attempting to legitimize themselves internally and externally.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Hmm. And they hold an Olympic inside of their borders. They have everyone show up. France, England, America, other, like, major Western powers. And apparently the Munich Olympics were Berlin. Or Berlin. I'm so sorry. 36 Berlin Olympics were like a real point of like, dude, these guys are doing great. Yeah. Post World War I. Yeah. Yeah. So that's not the only like racialized Olympic event that we have on the list.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Okay. We're going to fast forward. Peter Norman in the Black Power Fist. 1960 Mexico Olympics. 1968. 68. Mexico City. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Basically got it, though. So these two guys. Tommy Smith, John Carlos. Yep. They raised their fists as a black power salute during the 60 Olympics. Yeah. after winning gold and bronze. There's so much other stuff to the story
Starting point is 01:07:08 that I didn't realize. It's kind of crazy. So when they get their medals, they take them shoeless. Did you know this? If you look at the picture, it's just fire. It's just them,
Starting point is 01:07:18 fists in the air going wild. I didn't realize they were shoeless. Dogs out. Literally, just like they're, I mean, they had sock on, but damn near. So apparently there's a bunch of other stuff that's like a metaphor
Starting point is 01:07:28 with this whole thing that I had no idea. Yeah. One of the dudes wears a black scarf around his neck to represent black pride. another guy has his top unzipped to show solidarity with the blue collar workers in the United States and a necklace of beads
Starting point is 01:07:39 that he describes as those for the individuals that were lynch killed or that no one set a prayer for that were hung and tarred and for those thrown off the sides of the boats and the middle passage. Crazy.
Starting point is 01:07:50 That's pretty political. It's awesome. They went for it. Apparently, I didn't know this. Peter Norman is the Australian sprinter. They get second. Yeah. So basically they have this whole plan
Starting point is 01:08:01 these two guys, these two black American do. like, yo, when we win, we're both going to bring black gloves. We're going to raise our fists in the air, our right fist. One of the guys forgets his gloves. I was just going to say, you know why they did
Starting point is 01:08:12 a left and a right glove? Peter Norman is like, yeah, why don't you just wear the other one's glove? And then the guy's like, dude, that's a fucking good idea. Isn't that awesome? The Australian guy was like, just wear the other club. Yeah. And apparently he was about it.
Starting point is 01:08:23 He wore like a badge that was like in support of like human rights. Yeah, he was like, yeah, I'm going to like ride for these guys. And they ended up forming like a friendship that like went super, super far. There's awesome interviews with them later in life. What do you mean? Like later as they get older. They talk about each other and they also talk together.
Starting point is 01:08:40 There's some great interviews. Well, dude, when Peter Norman dies in 2006, those two guys, Smith and Carlos, are Paul Bears at his funeral. Is that amazing? They were like lifelong friends after this event. It's like awesome. Yeah. The IOC president at the time ordered Smith and Carlos suspended from the U.S. team and banned
Starting point is 01:08:58 from the Olympic Village. Yeah. The Olympic team actually kind of shocking. they were like, the U.S. Olympic team was like, nah, fuck that. The Olympic Committee was like, nah, that's stupid. If you take these guys out, we're pulling the whole track team. They basically, like, went on
Starting point is 01:09:12 and on. They had all these deliberations. They ultimately did pull the two athletes out, but, like, they kept their medals. Yeah. And, like, that was kind of like their their sort of, like, agreement. The same Olympic IOC president, he was the president of the United States Olympic Committee in 1936. Wow.
Starting point is 01:09:33 What was that Olympics, Miles? Berlin. That was the one that he made no objections to the Nazi salutes. And he argued that the Nazi salute was a national salute at the time and was acceptable in the competition of the nations. So the same guy that was like, yo, these guys got to get out of here. Also were like, yeah, the Nazis, I mean. I mean, the American National Nazi Party sold the MSG?
Starting point is 01:09:58 I didn't know that. Crazy, right? Cool with the Berlin Olympics. And then apparently these guys do this. and they're like, that's so fucked. That's an awesome photo though. That's one of the best, like... Well, have you seen this other photo from the same moment?
Starting point is 01:10:10 No. So apparently, these guys had a huge sneaker deal with Puma. So they took their shoes off and they're like, oh man, if we're on like the podium with our shoes, like we might end up fucking our bag up. So what they do is they put their shoes at 90 degree angles on each other's podium.
Starting point is 01:10:29 So if you look at the picture from other angles, we can drop it in here. They put one. one Puma shoe facing like this way and then the other Puma shoe facing this way. Wow. So that no matter what angle you take the picture from, you can still see the Puma shoes. Crazy. It's got the bag for it, though.
Starting point is 01:10:42 Respect. I mean, it's also just crazy. Like, in the time frame that this is, 1968, like, America's just fresh off civil rights. Yeah, I think MLK was assassinated that year. It's just insane. And then to have, not only to be as good as you are to win and also get third, but to have the wherewithal to like make a political statement.
Starting point is 01:11:04 I know people hate political statements within sports. I know it's a huge controversy for a lot of people. I think it's really impressive. To have like the time, the space, the wherewithal to like plan it and do it.
Starting point is 01:11:16 And yeah, it's just one of the cooler ones for me. Kind of badass, right? Oh, so awesome. And then this dude, Peter Norman, his life goes to shit. I've heard.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Afterwards, he goes back to Australia. He gets, like, crushed. Yeah. So, like, he's reprimented by the Olympic authorities that, like, criticize him. a bunch of people in the media are saying that he's like a racist and he hates white people da-da-da-da-da he's like snubbed from a bunch of other Olympic events that's crazy so like they
Starting point is 01:11:42 say like oh you're not qualified even though his qualifying time was better than the other people he's like snubbed for a bunch of stuff uh Sydney hosts a 2000 summer Olympics and he's not invited to take apart the celebration yeah and then it wasn't until like 2013 or 2012 the Olympic or that the Sydney like government was like I this Peter Norman guys okay crazy I love the people think Australia as like the Western sort of like goofies on that island. They also had their own fucking problems. Well, dude, they had a whole law that they passed way back in the day. That was literally like a non-immigration act where like police could pull up to Australians at any time and ask them to recite a 50 word dictation.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Wow. They basically had to like they would say something and they had to write it in a European language. So let's say you were a Chinese immigrant that came over and let's say you were able to do it in English. They then could be like, oh, you have to do it in like a specific European language. Do it in French. Do it in French. Wow. And then if they couldn't do it then, they'd bounce them.
Starting point is 01:12:38 It's crazy. But they didn't do anything else wrong. Don't ask the aboriginals. But I'm sure it was fine, okay? There's nothing, you know what I mean? We all have our history. We all have a whoops every now and again. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:12:47 It happens. Another whoops. Crazy, right? Those two guys, by the way, ended up having, like, good careers afterwards. Like, one of the dudes, like, specifically athletic careers. Like, one of the dudes ended up playing, like, Smith played for the Bengals. I was just going to say one played for Cincinnati.
Starting point is 01:13:02 And then the other dude played, like, Canadian football. He had, like, injuries and stuff. But, like, they ended up playing professional football in Canada. It's awesome. Lives, like, pretty decent lives afterwards. One of the dudes became, like, professor. Like, I think the guy that played Canadian football, I ended up going on to, like, teach, like,
Starting point is 01:13:15 some type of, like, physical ed or something like that. One of the better American moments. I mean, seems pretty cool to me. Yeah. Right? Yeah. There's a bunch of other wild things. Tanya Harding's whole incident.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Yeah. This is a wild one. I've seen the movie I Tony Oh did you do you I didn't actually I don't watch it That's a great movie
Starting point is 01:13:34 Is it good Yeah Margarabi Something I didn't realize So again The breakdown of this events What was the girl's name Kerrigan? Yep
Starting point is 01:13:42 Nancy Kerrigan So Tanya Harding She's sort of like a You know Kind of depicted as like A little rough around the edges Country Real But an amazing figure skater
Starting point is 01:13:51 Nancy Kerrigan She's sort of like a darling America's like sweetheart She's also an amazing figure skater Yep They're going up in this event They're kind of competing against each other, sort of, but also against a bunch of other countries.
Starting point is 01:14:04 Tanya Harding and, like, her ex-boyfriend at the time, I believe, sort of create this, like, plan to fuck up Nancy Carrey. Yep. They're break her knees in. They end up finding someone. I think it was like a nephew of someone, like a young kid. They pay him a couple grand and they're like, yo, walk in there while she's training. He walks in and goes, hey, who's Nancy Carrigan?
Starting point is 01:14:23 They go, oh, she's over there. It's crazy they weren't like, it's going to be the blonde chick with the skates on and the leg warmers. No. Apparently a bunch of other people were like training at the time. Yeah. So they send her in or send him in. Beats her knee in. There was like infamous video of her being like what the fuck? It's a, I wonder if we'll get flagged for it, but it's a crazy video. And the like the sound bite from that video is really like, no, I don't want to say iconic, but it's really like it's played a lot on the news at the time.
Starting point is 01:14:51 And it's like played in history a lot. What do you mean? The why video? Yeah, the Y video. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like, it's everywhere. It's like insane.
Starting point is 01:15:00 It's like, who would, why is there a hitman, like, trying to attack people? It's crazy. They end up seeing, like, security camera footage of, like, her talking to, like, the assailant. Yeah. And then a whole thing blows up. Nancy Kerrigan recovers, ends up getting silver. Yeah. Tanya Harding gets eighth.
Starting point is 01:15:18 It's crazy, right? Like, not even... Yeah. Tanya was, like, a little, uh, delusional on her, like, position. Like, at best, you would have got seventh. Yeah. That's insane. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:29 It just seems like not worth it. But I don't think someone who's using like their logical brain and like their smarts, quote unquote, would have put themselves on a position where they would do this. But, yeah, it's an insane time in history. It's also just a crazy like video. Like the movie's great. There's a 30 for 34. It's also awesome. That's a wild one.
Starting point is 01:15:53 I think my favorite figure skating moment in the Olympics ever. Suria Bonnelly. performs an illegal backflip at the 1998 Olympics. Have you ever seen this? No. This is insane. So I don't know the exact details. I got to look into it.
Starting point is 01:16:07 This is the premise of Blades of Glory. Literally. I wonder if it was based on it, Loe-Kee. I also think that while you're pulling this up, I also think the ringer is based off the 2000 Olympics Spanish scandal. I just want to say that. I think both were like pretty well informed.
Starting point is 01:16:22 Makes sense. So she's doing a free skate. I think that she's not eligible to medal at this point. if I'm not mistaken. I'm not exactly positive. And it's basically illegal at this point to do this move she's about to do. There are still like illegal backflips.
Starting point is 01:16:36 Yeah, it's like, which is crazy. I'm like, if you can do that, should do it. No, it's like too dangerous, apparently. And this is a sport we're like. It's the Olympics, bro. The whole shit is dangerous. You're allowed to go downhill at 150 miles an hour, but you can't do a backflip.
Starting point is 01:16:48 Like, yo, if you can't do it, don't do it. That's fair. So I don't think she's eligible. And I think that she's also been dealing with, like, racism. She's a black woman figure skating. Like, she's done with a bunch of races bullshit. it. And she's basically like, you know what, fuck it.
Starting point is 01:16:58 I'm going to bust out a backflip at the Olympics, just to show these motherfuckers, I'm nicer than all of them. So here she is. She's just cutting it up. Crazy. Rips a backflip on the ice. Wow. And she knows, like, oh, I'm disqualified.
Starting point is 01:17:14 Like, who gives a fuck? That's amazing. It's just insane. Gotta be the most badass figure skating moment that ever happened. Yeah, that's sick to be like, I ain't going to meddle, but I'm going to show you all up. Yeah. And just like flexes on everyone,
Starting point is 01:17:26 just for the strength. Just like, yeah, I want to show you all what I got. That's 98. Yeah. Wow. It's insane. There's a bunch of like random little details in here. Like little facts are just like amazing.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Mm-hmm. Do you know who the only person that ever meddled in an Olympics got a gold specifically and also won an Oscar? Oh, God. There's no way in a million years, you guessed this. No. You know exactly who the person is. Kobe Bryant.
Starting point is 01:17:54 Oh, I should have got that. Won gold in the Olympics And then later won an Oscar For his animated short film Deer Basket That's annoying No way in a million years you would have got that It's annoying Do you know who the guy that basically changed
Starting point is 01:18:08 High Jumping Forever? Oh yeah, it's the guy who like jumped backwards Instead of forwards I don't know his name Dick Fospery 1968 Yeah He busts out an over the back arched like flop
Starting point is 01:18:22 Before this Basically people would try to jump And they would like scissor jump That was like the known thing is you would kind of go and get one leg over and the other leg over this guy couldn't qualify
Starting point is 01:18:30 for like his high school team and he was like I can't qualify for these meets da-da-da-da figures out another way and slowly is doing it backwards like going shorter and shorter
Starting point is 01:18:40 or like doing it really low and then going slowly larger and larger until eventually he's like crushing these big jumps and his high school has to put in specific mats for his flop
Starting point is 01:18:49 ends up going to Oregon starts like breaking records there wins a national championship best track cool crushes with this brand new thing he goes to the 68 Olympics revolutionizes the whole event
Starting point is 01:19:02 busts out this backflip and after that I think the very next Olympics half of the Olympians are doing it his way the Fosbury flop and then ever since then everyone does it
Starting point is 01:19:13 the same exact way ever it's crazy right it's insane one guy just revolutionizes the whole thing just all the other Tony Hawkman 900 yeah exactly
Starting point is 01:19:22 and then ever since then it's like boom everyone does it yeah so he's just like a legend that like changed the game forever at a certain point i think in like in the olympic games he's ended up ends up jumping like seven feet which is crazy i don't even know what the record is now that's crazy wild right yeah some other crazy like podium uh antics there's this dude polish guy i don't say his last name his name is impossible kazuko let's call
Starting point is 01:19:47 he's got letters in his name i don't even know what the letter l with the slash kaza cuix wadslat Cotic Hewix, 1980 Olympics. We killed that. competing against the USSR in Moscow. 1980s. 1980s. We didn't go to this one. No, this is the one we boycotted.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Which would suck so bad. For it would suck so bad. For years, you kill yourself to do this thing and then. There's been a ton of crazy boycotts. It's crazy boycotts. It's crazy boycotted at one point in one Olympics. Whoa. Because New Zealand went to, oh, that's what it was.
Starting point is 01:20:18 It was in South African apartheid. Yeah. It was like a huge political topic. and New Zealand had taken their rugby team through South Africa as part of like exhibitions and shit like prepping for it and because New Zealand was in the games
Starting point is 01:20:30 and didn't boycott South Africa South Africa was basically banned from the Olympics for like years from like the 30s up until like the mid 80s and because New Zealand like did the games with them tons of African teams were like fuck you and they boycott I think it was in Montreal and they were like yeah we're not going
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Starting point is 01:22:45 Oh, the Bricks games. Have you heard of this? No, there's a controversy going on right now that Russian and Bella Russian athletes can't go under their flag. So they're going under like independent Olympic athletes or something. I don't remember exactly. There's only 15 Russians going. And there's a bunch of rules that follow.
Starting point is 01:23:04 They can't post about the war. They can't have military time against Ukraine. There's all these crazy rules in the IOC. And 10 of the 15 current Russian athletes, quote unquote, Russian. independent Olympic athletes have broken the rule. And one of the girls liked a post of like Stalin posted on like a pro-Russian account that was like the only way to communicate with, and I'm going to butcher it. But the only way to communicate with your enemy is after they're defeated. So there's always people that have like done things on social media that they shouldn't have done.
Starting point is 01:23:42 And the contrary, or like I guess the question is like will they or will they not compete even though they're not competing for Russian? Yeah, the boycotting stuff is really fascinating Oh, that's crazy Yeah Like people get banned and stuff Like I told you this one before But like there's a girl I've read exactly what her event was
Starting point is 01:23:58 I think she's Scandinavian or something like that She got kicked out of the Olympics She was like a potentially like a frontrunner Like win gold Yeah Gets kicked out for a racist joke that she tweeted So the Olympics were happening in Europe at the time And the tweet more or less
Starting point is 01:24:12 As somebody to the fact At the time there was like West Nile Mosquitoes They were like winning in like West Nile virus And she was like damn There's so many Africans in Europe right now The West Nile mosquitoes Are we having a home-cooked meal Decent joke
Starting point is 01:24:25 Decent joke Right? Yeah Got booted Couldn't compete Fubmer Okay I'm sorry Back to our Polish Fucking Vodzlat Kanschewitch
Starting point is 01:24:33 We'll get a green pointer to This guy's a legend Yeah 1980 Olympics He ends up Basically like crushing Everyone So his whole thing is actually like
Starting point is 01:24:43 Super badass He's a pole jumper No pun intended He's Polish But he is a pole jumper Pull Volter. And he basically like crushes everyone in the pull vault. But the way the games are set up, he beats everyone's score going into the final heat.
Starting point is 01:24:59 So he's the only one that qualifies for the final heat because he didn't have any missed attempts going forward. Oh, wow. So he crushes everyone. Okay. He basically is guaranteed a gold. Wow. When he gets up there after doing it, flicks off the entire Soviet stadium. I mean, shout out him.
Starting point is 01:25:15 Again, Poland is basically under like kind of control over like the Soviet Union at the time. Flicks off all of them. He claims that it was just against the people in the stands that were booing him. But then other people were like, oh, there's definitely a larger like political message going on. Go for it. Shafts all of them. Yep. And then he still has to do another jump.
Starting point is 01:25:35 Wow. Raises the bar from his last pole vault and does the next jump and beats his own best jump. Wow. And like sets a record, I think, at the Olympics. crushes everyone, flicks everyone off again. Wow. Just badass. Like, I mean, so sick. Keeps the metals, everything's cool.
Starting point is 01:25:53 They try to take it from them and they're like, nah, I'm not, I'm not going to give him up. How scary is that, though? Because you're in their country. Oh, he ends up having to leave. That's what I'm saying. Like, your country has to get you out immediately. Yeah, it's like a whole thing that, like, make his life hell. Don't go for him, like, directly, but they go for him for, like, other things. Like, they try to disqualify him for, like, his uniform.
Starting point is 01:26:11 They said he wasn't wearing the proper attire. Got it. And ends up fleeing to West Germany. not fleeing. You got to say, like, moves to West Germany and then lives his life, like, near Hanover. Wow. It just lives, like, kind of like a regular life, just like a legend. I mean, yeah, that's balls to, like, do that.
Starting point is 01:26:25 Right? It's insane. Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, there's a bunch of, like, crazy things. 1936, these two Japanese guys pull vultures again go against each other. And they go against each other in the final, or no, in the, for the qualifier to win silver. And they basically are like, we're not going to compete against each other. It's on sportsmen like to compete against my countrymen.
Starting point is 01:26:46 Wow. And they decided to share it. Share the silver. Yeah. That's cool. Kind of cool, right? That was really cool. And you're like, oh, that would never happen right nowadays.
Starting point is 01:26:54 And that was 1936. 2020, Tokyo Olympics. Wow. Two high jumpers. They're like best friends. I'm pretty sure one is like Italian. The other guy's like maybe Egyptian or something like that. They've been homies forever.
Starting point is 01:27:07 Like doing high jumping competitions forever. They both go to the finals. Yeah. They're both like getting each other's scores, like matching each other in the high jump and they can't get to the final thing so neither of them can like best each other like they're off by like millimeters and they both are like yeah we're going to share the gold wow and the two of them share the gold of the 2020 Olympics that's amazing crazy right oh that's awesome kind of nice there's also like a bunch of other little things like there's a
Starting point is 01:27:33 prisoner of war games that go on oh wow i think this is like 1952 the Olympic games are going on they're in Helsinki. There's a bunch of prisoners of war in like North Korean prison camps. Wow. Like Americans, Brits, a bunch of other people in these prison camps. And they basically do their own Olympic games. And like the prison guards kind of like allow them to do it. Wow. 500 participants representing 11 countries. Christ. In 22 events took part in the 1952 intercamp Olympic games. It's not recognized by the IOC. The IOC should recognize us if they're smart. Right. Right. But also the games are just them, like, finding little things and doing, like, little random equipment. And, like, they did, like, makeshift javelins from, like, bamboo sticks that they found and, like, salvaged parts to, like, do shot put.
Starting point is 01:28:22 Human spirit. I mean, I would 1,000 percent recognize this with my OSE. Right. Guys in a prison camp. This is, like, sanctioned, like, by Mao Zedong, who's, like, kind of in control of the prison camp at the time in North Korea. I mean, that's sick. They kind of, like... Once again, this is the premise for the Longshard. basically every great comedy is kind of based on like some crazy tragic Olympic event yeah that's the title of this podcast actually yeah it's insane he kind of like lets it happen mausadong he's just like all right you know we want to like be cool they want to like show like you know like a little good gesture to like the UN yeah and like they let them happen wow it's insane kind of heartwarming right oh man that's cool yeah it's insane did you see this uh Russian weightlifter is it the one Tell me about it. This is the dude that lifts it right after his wife passed away. Oh, dude.
Starting point is 01:29:14 Get the fucking waterworks going. This is an awesome one. You saw this? Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. Let me correct myself. He's not Russian. He's German. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:22 Matea Steiner. It's like the most insane video. Like his wife had like just passed away recently. He's in fourth place. He's like lifting more than he's ever lifted in his life. He's like, I don't know if I can do it. Oh, man. And he promised his wife.
Starting point is 01:29:34 He was like, I got this for you, baby. How sick. And then pulls it home. Watch that one at like two in the morning when you're up too late. Just scrolling on your phone, you'll get a couple tears in the eyes. Oh, it's insane. It's amazing. Okay.
Starting point is 01:29:45 Just to end, let's just go on like two like morbid, weird ones. Okay. In the 2024 Olympics, the ones happening right now. Yeah. There is a allegedly, and I shouldn't say allegedly because I'm pretty sure it was convicted, a child rapist that's competing. Yep. You heard about this?
Starting point is 01:30:04 Yeah. This is insane. Yeah. So everything that I've read on it is like, nah he did that shit. I'm like trying to see if there was like a gray area. He pled guilty. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:12 So from what I understand, he's 19 years old. Yep. He's like grooming this 10 year old girl that he meets. He's from the Netherlands, correct? Yeah, he's Dutch. Yes. Meets this like 10 year old girl on Facebook, grooms her for like two years. She turns 12.
Starting point is 01:30:25 He goes over. I think she's in England. Goes to England. He goes, yes. Rapes her. Yep. And then bounces back to the Netherlands. Which famously a bunch of articles that like had sex with.
Starting point is 01:30:35 And it's very interesting to like, that's not the right words. She's 12. Like, it's not even close. You can't even use those terms. It's insane. So he straight up rapes his girl, bounces back. It becomes a whole thing. There's a whole investigation.
Starting point is 01:30:47 He gets extradited, goes to prison. He gets, he goes to the trial. And the judge says, your hopes of ever representing your country are now squashed. Paraphrasing for him. No, literally. He's like, you're never going to represent your country. You're never going to represent your country. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:31:02 I'm giving you four years in prison. Yeah. Which pretty lenient, if I'm honest with you. Four years. kid? What the fuck we're talking about? He basically, I think he does like a year. Does maybe two at the most. I don't know the exact details, but under two years and then gets a deal with the Netherlands. UK, I'm sorry, England and the Netherlands do a little deal. And they say, we'll give you him back, put him in jail.
Starting point is 01:31:25 He gets retried in the Netherlands, found guilty, and does one more month. Yeah. I think he does under two years total time in jail. Yeah. and then makes the Olympics goes and plays the Olympics in men's volleyball correct and that's
Starting point is 01:31:45 they basically they're like all right all right he's allowed to compete but we're going to pull him away from the Olympic village there's no IOC laws on prior convictions
Starting point is 01:31:55 it's based on the rule of the country so if America had the best I don't mean to make no light of the situation if America's like best sprinter in the world was a murder we could send him. OJ could run.
Starting point is 01:32:09 Yeah, it's crazy, right? It's insane. The IOC has no one. Look, there should be one rule. They also have weird rules about like, oh, if you're talking about pro-war stuff that we're not cool with, you're out. But if you raped a girl in England,
Starting point is 01:32:23 which is 12. They try to take these black dudes medals away because they put their hand in the air. It's crazy. And then you rape a kid and they're like, I was, you know. It's crazy. We can look the other way.
Starting point is 01:32:33 What's his name? Stephen Van DeVelt. he played guilty which is why I like don't really mind talking about I'm like he said he pled guilty had a kid
Starting point is 01:32:42 and a wife after it like it's just crazy and he was also like kind of gruff apparently like they like interviewed him they're like ah the media is making such a big deal about this
Starting point is 01:32:49 I'm not a pedophile in the conventional sense which what other sense motherfucker he was like come on that girl ended up also like had a terrible
Starting point is 01:32:58 like she had not a great time she didn't have like self-harming had like an OD or some shit it's like it's insane and just like let it happen I hope his team loses
Starting point is 01:33:05 right? Yeah. Everyone does. And now it's also like such a distraction. I'm like, if I'm the head of the volleyball team, I'm like, there's not another six foot four guy in the Netherlands. Yeah. The tallest fucking country in the world.
Starting point is 01:33:15 There's not another dude that can fill in. Fuck that guy. It's insane. I mean, how good is he? He must be the greatest ever that they're like, yeah, we know. Yeah, they're willing to like... Did the worst crime ever.
Starting point is 01:33:26 The Netherlands is willing to like put almost their, their like country's reputation up against with this guy. He's wearing your fucking colors. He's wearing your jersey. I know how his teammate feels. Like this is a guy that's got a ride for him And he's got to be like Yeah, he's good though
Starting point is 01:33:41 I hate that It's crazy, right? Yeah It's the same Here's some more morbid shit Saddam Hussein's son Uday Hussein He's infamous
Starting point is 01:33:51 He basically was put on the head Of the Iraqi Olympic Committee And the Iraqi Football Association Yeah His role gave him a ton of power Over all the athletes This is his oldest son And this is also all alleged
Starting point is 01:34:02 Okay And by alleged I mean Probably happen But alleged anytime an athlete did poorly, he would torture and imprison them. Oh, God. This is crazy.
Starting point is 01:34:14 Ugh. So, like, if you didn't do good at the Olympic Games, which, I don't know, if you ever watch the Olympics, you don't really typically see Iraq at the top. No, a lot. If you didn't do good, you would go into prison for days or months at a time. He would have them beaten with iron bars,
Starting point is 01:34:27 caned on the soles of their feet, chained to walls and left to stay in contorted positions for days, dragged on the pavement, dunked in sewage, because he hoped that their wounds would get infected. And if he stopped by a player's jail cell, he might urinate on his shaven head just to humiliate them. Amnesty International reported that he had ordered the hand
Starting point is 01:34:48 of an Olympic Committee security guard who he accused of stealing sports equipment. And he wanted to get it cut off. The missing equipment was later found. So maybe on that regard, he actually... Maybe that one he got right. Which Amnesty International, I keep saying them say that shit's bad.
Starting point is 01:35:04 can they get like an enforcement arm instead of just a it's bad arm maybe like a militia or something they just have the arm that says shit's bad instead of fix the bad right like yo do something yeah they gotta do something about that
Starting point is 01:35:19 isom al-dawan Iraq's most decorated volleyball player and he's a coach he's left shackled and in contorted position for painful days for days on end oh god painful ways for days on end that's awful other Dude, Shirar Hidar, imprisoned and tortured after he told the INOC officials he planned to retire from the Iraqi national soccer team.
Starting point is 01:35:41 He ends up defecting to Hungary to escape this guy. Riyadh, 12-time Iraqi national weightlifting champion, carried his country's flag at the Atlanta Olympics in 1996. He sees President Clinton applauding him, and he's like, fuck this shit, bro. He decides to defect. Well, and ask for amnesty at the Olympic Games. His whole family gets murdered. crazy. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:36:07 Insane, right? The Cuban national baseball team will sometimes come play exhibition games in America, and American, I'm sorry, Cuban players will defect to America. They leave with like 24 players, and they come back with like 22 pretty commonly. But is that, like, a problem for their families and shit?
Starting point is 01:36:25 I don't, I don't know, mind you. It's a problem for defecting. It's like some shit's going to happen. Yeah, mind you, I'm not an expert on it, but, uh, I don't know if it's a problem for their family, but it is a pretty common problem that the Cuban baseball team faces.
Starting point is 01:36:40 Whoa. It's like some of the better players in the league, maybe in the past 20 years. Our players. Puerto Rican and then just pop over. Our player, yeah, players that have defected. All right,
Starting point is 01:36:49 let's end on something terrible. I was going to say, let's end on something good. Oh, we'll do this one, and then we'll do a couple other, maybe similar ones. Okay.
Starting point is 01:36:57 But this one is just crazy. It's just like so many fucking layers at the time of like crazy shit that happened. 1972 Munich games. Okay. what they call the Munich Massacre. This became a movie, obviously, by Spielberg called Munich. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:09 It became a documentary called One Day in September. It's the most insane thing ever. So basically, 1972, this is like Germany's big, like reintroduction to the world. Okay? The whole Nazi thing, yada, yada, yada. We're not Nazis. No. We're just regular West Germans.
Starting point is 01:37:27 You know what I mean? Doing our thing. 1972 rolls around. They name their games like something like super, it's like the Olympic Games of Peace. Yeah, yeah. And because they didn't want to be seen as like this authoritarian regime, they didn't have any armed guards everywhere. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:39 So it was like minimal security all over the place. Just to be like, yeah, come on. They thought Munich was so safe. You think we're not Nazis? What are you talking about? So they do the whole games. They're setting the whole thing up. They actually hire a forensic psychologist to go through all of the potential terrorism scenarios.
Starting point is 01:37:57 And they're like, what could possibly happen to these games? Like, take us through everything. Apparently they do this at like every, before like every major sporting event. Yeah. Like, what are our potential? weak points that we should consider. This dude talks about something called Situation 21. Okay.
Starting point is 01:38:10 Situation 21, again, of this 26th sort of like, you know, line sheet, the 21st situation that he brings up is he's like, hey, look, there's obviously a ton of, you know, turmoil happening in the Middle East. You're going to have Israeli people here. You're going to have some Arab nations here that potentially are unfriendly to the, you know, Israel existing as a nation. And he says, it's possible that maybe like Palestinians or people at the behest of like the Palestinian cause will invade the Israeli delegation quarters.
Starting point is 01:38:39 They might try to kill them or take them hostage, and they might demand that Israel release prisoners, and then they'll eventually try to get a plane to leave West Germany. The organizers are like, I doubt it. They brush it off. And they're like, I, you know, maybe, but I probably not. Fast forward. The Olympics start. There's a group called Black September.
Starting point is 01:39:02 Okay. This is like a radical faction of what's, It's known as the PLO, the Palestinian Liberation Organization. Black September is like a radical terror group that's like trying to fuck up Israelis. Cool name. Black September? Yeah. It's like very on point.
Starting point is 01:39:14 It's like very, you know, it's like, you know, September is the time. Cool, man. They basically create this group that's going to go in. And this is their plan. Yeah. We're going to take a bunch of Israelis. We're going to take them hostage. Weirdly, by the way, the leader of this group that goes in of these terrorists, he's the son of a Jewish mother and a Christian father.
Starting point is 01:39:32 Wow. Half Jewish. pretty crazy, right? They basically go in, they're like, hey, look, we're going to kidnap all these Israeli athletes, and then we're going to request
Starting point is 01:39:40 the release of 234 Palestinian prisoners who are being held in Israeli jails, as well as Red Army faction founders, Andreas Bader and Jolreich Mainhof, who are also in prison.
Starting point is 01:39:53 It's like a far left, like radical group. Weirdly enough, Bauder and Mienhof, those two people, also the name of when people have like, this like weird psychological phenomenon where like it's known as like the
Starting point is 01:40:07 badder minehoff frequency illusion this is like oh I'm going to buy a red car and then you notice that there's red cars everywhere uh interesting that's it's like some people call it like recency bias yeah yeah it's like you're like you'll hear something or like you'll try to buy a car you'll try to name your kid something like something will come up and all of a sudden you notice it everywhere it's interesting sometimes people reference that exact phenomena when they're just when they're dispelling the myth that your phone is listening to you. And that like, because you talk to your friend about curtains and then curtain shows up
Starting point is 01:40:41 on your phone. Yeah. It makes a lot of sense. Yeah. You just don't notice other curtains. Weird. And then when you talk to your friend, you're like, wait, I was just talking about this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:48 And also, you've already searched your Ottoman. You've searched whatever. And then they go, this guy probably needs curtains. Right. He's been able to do a apartment. Exactly. So weirdly, there was like a sociologist. I was like writing about them.
Starting point is 01:40:57 And once he, like, wrote their name down, he all of sudden started noticing of like they were popping up all over literature. and you're like, this is such a weird phenomenon and wrote about it. Wow. Completely unrelated. But they were trying to get them released from prison. Well, if you end the story now, it's just interesting. Yeah, it's just like, oh, what a fun fact.
Starting point is 01:41:12 It's not fun. It gets way worse. September 5th, 1972. With the help of West German neo-Nazi groups, this terror cell, basically, they break through the security. And by the security, I mean, there's a six-foot fence. Four dudes going to stop. Literally, and apparently there were some other people that were also breaking in to, like, go party of the Olympic Village. And some of them were maybe athletes.
Starting point is 01:41:33 It's not really sure. That kind of like told them where to go just like incidentally. They were like, yeah, we're jumping over. Where's the party? They go to the left. Yeah, exactly. It was just a bunch of people partying for the Olympics. It was like completely fine.
Starting point is 01:41:41 It was like, yeah, we're all having fun. And apparently the Olympic Village is just like people partying nonstop. Fuck us. So these terrorists break in. They find the Israeli quarters. They bust down the door and they awaken like two Israeli like coaches. Okay. The guys like start fighting immediately.
Starting point is 01:41:59 One of the guys is able to like hold them off. Well, one of them gets. away. It becomes like a whole ordeal. One of these dudes is actually just a complete badass. Like he like handles them. He ends up getting shot in the face. They're like, you know, take us to where the Israeli quarters are. And he's like,
Starting point is 01:42:13 there's no Israelis in this building. And some people are like believed that like that building had like, were housing a lot of like women athletes. And he was trying to protect them and he was like, I'll show you where they are. And he takes them to where all the Israeli wrestlers are. And he's like, maybe if I can get the wrestlers on board, they can fuck these guys up. It's like super quick thinking. He's also shot in the face, by the way,
Starting point is 01:42:32 like literally wounded, taking these terrorists, and he's like, all right, take some of the wrestlers while he walks into the room, he ends up, like, knocking one of them unconscious and stabs another one. He's, like, fucking them up.
Starting point is 01:42:45 Wow. Alone. He's taken on all these dudes. He ends up getting killed. Yeah. Another guy tries to fight. He gets killed, too. Those are the first two deaths.
Starting point is 01:42:53 Those are the first two that die, and then nine others are taken hostage. They're basically taken his hostage, and then they're tortured for the duration of like the hostage negotiation. It's like a whole thing. The police always didn't hear about this and they're like, oh shit. The games are continued to go on.
Starting point is 01:43:08 Like that happened at night. The next day the games continue to happen. The Munich police are trying to like negotiate. They're sending them like they're going back and forth. They're sending them a listed demands. And these terrorists are not fucking around. They give them a listed demands. They're like every hour that goes by that we don't get these prisoners released,
Starting point is 01:43:24 we're going to kill another hostage. Wow. And then they throw the body of one of the guys out on the street. And they're just like, yo, we're not fucking around. The Israeli prime minister goes, fuck you guys. We're not negotiating with terrorists. We don't play that shit. Like, get it back in blood.
Starting point is 01:43:40 We're not fucking around. Tough people. And they're just like, yeah, we don't play. So then basically the Germans, like, offer, like, an unlimited amount of money for the release of the athletes. They're, like, trying to negotiate with them. Apparently, there's some people to even offer, like, take their place. There's, like, an Egyptian official that's like, yo, like, I'll go. Like, there's a bunch of people trying to, like, offer deals.
Starting point is 01:43:58 They're like, yeah, we don't want any of this. They refuse all of it. Apparently, Massad comes in and they're like, yo, let us step in and try to handle this. Like, we have, like, specific, like, counterterrorism experience.
Starting point is 01:44:07 And apparently the Munich police just, like, decline it. But then even that is apparently like disputed. It's like a whole thing. The game's going on for 12 hours before any type of halt. And then eventually they hear
Starting point is 01:44:15 about this whole fucking hostage situation. They halt it for 36 hours. They take, like, a couple days, day and a half off. And the Germans love being on time. So they're like pissed. You know what I mean? So their first plan for the police
Starting point is 01:44:27 is they're like, hey, we're going to crawl through the ventilation. we're going to get up there, we're going to kill all the terrorists. Yeah. Here's the problem. The media is broadcasting the whole thing. The whole standoff is live on TV.
Starting point is 01:44:40 Everyone around the world is watching. And the people in the fucking... And the terrorists. They're also watching. So they know where the sniper positions are. They can tell where everyone is. And so they just don't go outside. And they basically tell the police like,
Starting point is 01:44:52 yo, if you guys jump in here, which we know you're going to do, we're killing everybody. And the police are like, fuck. It's like, how do they figure this out? dude, damn it. So basically the terrorists after a while, they can't really like reach any type of negotiation.
Starting point is 01:45:04 They basically say, yo, get us a helicopter, take us to someplace. Take us to some place. Take us to some place as friendly. Take us to Egypt. And they basically like arrange this thing. And they're going to take them from the Olympic Village in a helicopter to the airport. Yep. From the airport on an airplane, from the airplane, they're going to go to Egypt.
Starting point is 01:45:18 That's the plan. But here's what the Munich police are working on. Hey, we're going to get an airplane, 747, and we're going to put a bunch of flight crew on. But the flight crew, not regular flight crew. They're actually police. Yeah. And once you guys get into the plane, the police are going to jump out, they're going to knock all you guys off. Apparently a couple people, like, I think like the mayor of Munich and like another Olympic official are actually allowed into the hostage standoff.
Starting point is 01:45:41 Okay. And they're let in to like go and like talk to them. Okay. And they walk in and they see the people. They're like chained up. Like the hostages are like getting tortured. And they note that there's like five terrorists. There's not five terrorists.
Starting point is 01:45:52 There's not five terrorists. But they're like, oh, I think there's like five or something like that. I mean, you would, you would think like, It doesn't matter. Just get everyone that you can get to, like, kill these guys. Also, just count better. So this becomes a point later on because it becomes an issue with how many people that they have staffed. So they bring in all these police and they're like, all right, we're going to put you guys on the airplane.
Starting point is 01:46:13 We're going to put you as like flight crew. Got it. And the flight crew is like, all right, bet. Again, flight crew police. So like, all right, bet, let's do it. Last minute, they call it off. They're like, hey, this is a suicide mission, the crew. They're like, we're not doing this.
Starting point is 01:46:27 they leave without telling central command. Oh, Jesus. And so now their plan with the whole flight and the flight crew, that's out the picture. So all they have left is five snipers around the perimeter of the actual, like, where the airplane and the helicopter are. And they're going to take out the terrorists. I mean, now most sniper ops, you need at least two snipers per target. Interesting. Per known target.
Starting point is 01:46:54 Yeah. So if you've got like hypothetically five terrorists, you're going to need 10 snipers. at the least, but typically they'll do like 12 or 14. Wow. And they have like very organized attacks on like how to take care of all these people. That's not what they did. They had five snipers. These snipers don't have sniper training.
Starting point is 01:47:08 A lot of them are volunteer. They don't have optics or night vision. Oh, Jesus. And they're the ones that have to take on all the terrorists. I know it's 72, but get the Americans on this. Such a nightmare, bro. Get Masad or the Americans? Helicopter lands.
Starting point is 01:47:25 The main guy, the leader of the whole thing. Yeah. He pops out. He's like, you got to stay right here. I'll be right back. Let me go check out the plane. He's like super paranoid. Obviously, he like checks out the bus that drives him.
Starting point is 01:47:34 He like checks out everything. Yeah. He goes to the plane, sees that there's no crew on the plane. And he's like, hmm. Okay. It's a little weird. There's no crew on the plane. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:44 He knows this setup. Immediately runs back to the helicopter. He goes, yo, guys, it's a setup. And as he's running back to the helicopter, all the snipers start shooting at him. It's like a whole, at this point, it's just like, it's just a, fuck up. They don't even get them. It's like they hide under the helicopters. Again, the helicopter is also supposed to land in a way that gives the snipers, like a clear line of sight. They don't land in
Starting point is 01:48:06 the right way. It's not communicated properly. The terrorists jump off. They're hiding underneath the thing. Underneath the helicopter, they start shooting out the lights of the actual airport. So now it's like pitch black. No one can see anything. They do like the standoff for like a couple more hours. They start shooting. The pilots end up getting away. So at the, at the, at the, end of like this whole firefight one of the guys ends up throwing a grenade into the helicopter killing all the hostages all the hostages they're living they just spray them down kill all the rest of the hostages and it's just a a fucking literally like the biggest fuck up ever the cops are like shooting each other one of the snipers gets hit one of the pilots gets hit god it's all the hostages
Starting point is 01:48:47 die it's crazy this is the olympics also this is at the olympics this is happening during the Olympics. That's crazy. Five of the terrorists die. Three of them live. They end up getting put into custody. One of the pilots gets shot. They report on the news, hey, actually, the terrorists all lived, or all the terrorists died, all the hostages lived. That's what they report on the news initially. So everyone's like, oh, nice. Nice. We win. And then all of a sudden, one of these guys gets back on the news is like, they're all gone. Like infamously. It's like, yeah, they're, yeah, it was all fucked up. What a nightmare. It's a huge fuck up. Yeah, what a fuck up. Sorry. They decide all the bodies get delivered to Libya of the terrorists that died.
Starting point is 01:49:29 So they end up sending their bodies back to Libya. And they're given like a hero's burial. Oh, God. Three of the terrorists that are held in prison are still there. All like the hostages, obviously, like they all have their own burials. What's crazy is that's not the only casualty at the memorial. The cousin of one of the victims gets a heart attack during the memorial. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:49:49 That's a detail that no one brings up. Of like the 11 Israelis, one of the, wow. One of their cousins. is at the funeral and he's literally of like a broken heart dies. Ugh. Crazy. The aftermath is where it gets insane. So, three of the terrorists are in prison, right?
Starting point is 01:50:05 Yeah. The Olympic Games go on. They end. The Israeli team pulls out all their athletes. And at the very end, they do like a speech that's kind of like weird. They don't really acknowledge it. And they're like, you know, in the face of terrorism, we all stand up and unite as one world or something like that. It's like kind of like, they don't really like give a lot of, uh, uh, it seems like,
Starting point is 01:50:24 They don't really have, they're not very apologetic. Weird. Or anything like that. A month later, Luftanzah flight 615 is hijacked. This is flying from Europe over to Syria. So from Germany to Syria. I don't know exactly where. I don't know exactly where it leaves off.
Starting point is 01:50:41 It might be Germany. Got it. It's flying over to Middle East. Hijackers take over the plane and they say, hey, if you don't release the three terrorists that did this, we're blown up this whole plane in the United States. everybody on it. Interesting. This is a common pre-9-11 just for contacts. These hijacking. These hijackings happen all the time. Highjackings happened and they were never like, we're going to end it. We're just land us in a
Starting point is 01:51:06 place we can and we'll demand things that need to be done. Yeah. Okay. So that's what they do. And immediately the West Germans release the three terrorists, send them back to Libya. And they have like press conferences. They're kind of like seen as like heroes back their country, like, yeah, you did the thing. Okay. Some people speculate, and again, this is conspiratorial. There's a little big allegedly here. Some people speculate that the German authorities worked with the Black September
Starting point is 01:51:35 group to demand that no more terrorism in their country ever happens. And they basically were like, hey, look, these three prisoners that we have, they're a big liability. They're causing a lot of problems. They might bring more heat from other terror groups. They're trying to get them out. Got it. So they're basically like, hey, let's work with the Black September group, either allow a
Starting point is 01:51:52 hijacking to happen, either orchestrated hijacking to happen, either orchestrated hijacking that happened again no one really knows and they say do this hijacking demand that we release them our hands will be tied will release them and then we'll call it a day yeah some people point out the fact that the plane that was hijacked this is a Boeing 727 this can sit like 130 150 people comfortable had only 13 male passengers on board and immediately from the very first correspondence where they said hey release the prisoners they did yeah didn't even think about it yeah there was like, yeah, that's it. Wow. So the leader of the whole organization, not any of the terrorists that were killed, but a guy back, I don't even know exactly which country he was in. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:32 One of the leaders, he basically says, I regret nothing. Before Munich, we were terrorists, but after Munich, at least people starting to ask, oh, who are these terrorists? What do they want? Before Munich, nobody had the slightest idea about Palestine. So he almost looked at it. He was like, yeah, this shit worked. Israel got pissed. They do this operation, subtly named Operation Rath of God and they vowed to basically kill anyone that was connected to the plot. Wow. So literally, they send like Mossad and all of their like intelligence assets after anyone that was even remotely involved. This operation goes on for 20 years.
Starting point is 01:53:09 Well. Apparently two of the terrorists, they're not sure if one of them ended up living to old age. Two of the terrorists got killed. The organizers got killed. The people that helped the logistics got killed. Israel just went after all of them. Wow. They even in 1973, they killed a Moroccan man unrelated to the Munich attacks after he was mistakenly said to be a black September operative.
Starting point is 01:53:34 Well, they just took him out. He's like a Moroccan dude. The agents were then arrested by Norwegian authorities and they were convicted of killing him, imprisoned, and then returned to Israel after like two or three years. Wow. Crazy. They ended up just like wreaking havoc on everything. Apparently there's like a big. big cover-up that the West German government like went through. Okay. So it's like a somewhat, not confirmed, but more legitimized. There's a bunch of like articles and shit that came out. There was like a journalist for like Der Spiegel, like a big like German newspaper that like
Starting point is 01:54:05 published a whole thing. And one of the other like pieces of this whole story that adds to the fact that maybe there was some type of an agreement met by the West German government and this terror cell is that the French police arrest one of the chief organizers, organizers of the mass. occur in just like a well-known, this is the dude that was like, I have no regrets, like, this shit worked. Okay. That guy.
Starting point is 01:54:28 He gets arrested by French police. And they don't necessarily have grounds to, like, keep him or, like, try him. So they go to the German authorities and they're like, hey, do you want this guy? We can extradite him to you. And then you guys can put him on trial for all the events. And the German authorities allegedly say, yeah, we don't want to get involved. Wow. So they take no action and they end up releasing him.
Starting point is 01:54:50 and then he ends up dying at a Damascus hospital in 2010. Jesus. I kind of further proof that maybe the Germans were like, yeah, we said, like, if you guys don't do any terrorism, we're not going to fuck with you. It became a whole thing. Steven Spielberg makes a movie about it that's apparently amazing. I haven't seen it.
Starting point is 01:55:05 And it's just like one of the most, probably the most tragic, like, insane events that have ever happened in the Olympics ever. Yeah. Like, by far. I mean. Yeah, unden eye. Like, the fact that, like, the Olympics went on.
Starting point is 01:55:18 Yeah. Like, people didn't really know, like, was happening like Olympic athletes were like still competing there were like other Olympic villages that were around and people could like see onto the balcony like long jumpers would be like oh that's crazy there were certain people in the Olympics that were like unaffiliated with Israel non-jews they were just like I'm leaving yeah of course like in solidarity they're like I'm out one of the girls she was actually a sprinter her time in the initial heats of the Olympics were better than the gold medalists well and she bounced she was just like yeah this whole thing
Starting point is 01:55:46 is fucked well so Germany's big attempt to like make themselves look like not not Nazis and having a bunch of Jews get killed and they're like, oh, fuck. Yeah, they fucked that up. Crazy. I don't think they've had an Olympic sense. Yeah, I don't know if they have. I don't think of.
Starting point is 01:56:01 But, like, there's these pictures of these terrorists out on the balconies, like, peering out with, like, masks on. It's, like, so ominous. Oh, I've seen these photos. Yeah, the photos are insane. Yeah. And, like, they have some of the hostages, like, do interviews
Starting point is 01:56:13 and they're just fuck. It's, like, the most brutal fucked up thing ever. Pretty wild. I hate that. So in all the Olympic history. Yeah. There's good things. There's tragic things.
Starting point is 01:56:23 Heartwarming stories, brutal massacres. It's kind of an insane thing that we do. We just get all the ethnicities together. We're like, yeah, let's fucking race these guys. Let's see what happens. Nothing bad could happen. We get all these different countries together. Just let them rip.
Starting point is 01:56:35 You know what I mean? Yeah. That's wild. Pretty crazy. Can I tell you a fun Olympic story? Please. I mean, there's so many for the record. We don't have time today to go through all of them.
Starting point is 01:56:43 It may have to do another episode. Derek Redmond's father supports him. This guy with a collapsed lung, like, competes to the collapsed lung. Like, competes to the collapsed lung. There's a sailor, this guy, Larry Lemieux, that gives up his chance to meddle to help two other sailors that capsized. There's like so many crazy, crazy stories. Oh, the 2012 London Olympics opening ceremony that predicted COVID. Wow.
Starting point is 01:57:06 That's a crazy one. I mean, we'll have to get into some conspiracies or do more episodes maybe on the Olympics while it's still going on. We might have. Oh, dude, there's an Olympian who won $100,000 basically just for eating too much. He basically, like, protested having to fight this Israeli. dude. So he was like, I think it was a contested bout. And so in his next fight, he was like, I'm not going to make weight, intentionally binged himself to death. Wow. So just like ate so much food, missed weight and then like got compensated by his country for missing it. Wow.
Starting point is 01:57:35 There's so much crazy stuff. The speed skater strategy. Okay, I'll give you two really quick fun things about the Olympics before we leave. So we don't end on the worst thing in the world. I thought these were good. No, they were. Just we ended on the brutal one. You can't start with the brutal one. That's true. Okay. So two things, really quick. The next two Olympics, funny enough, are obviously the one happening right now. And then America has 2028, Los Angeles. And we just got, I think, announced today or the day before, 2032, Salt Lake City.
Starting point is 01:58:05 Wait, back to back? Well, not back to back. Well, yeah, summer, winter. Sick. Cool, right? Yeah, that's tough. America is always the backup country if an Olympics can't be hosted within the country. So if war breaks out or a problem happened or their development for the games isn't up to speed, it always defaults to America because America is one of the only countries that has basically the facilities to run these at all times.
Starting point is 01:58:34 When the facilities are, we have a ton of NFL stadiums and colleges. So we basically have dorms in the summer that no one's sleeping in because colleges are shut down. So we could do it. There's like something like eight cities in America that. could host a full-blown Olympics at the same time. Yeah, I mean, that makes sense. It's crazy, right? Yeah, I mean, you got to think America's so big.
Starting point is 01:58:55 Like, it's all of Europe. Yeah. You know what I mean? If every European country could do one, like America could do it. So that's sort of cool, where the backup. It's far. Secondly, the story that I really like for the Olympics, and there's no controversy to this, but it is really interesting to me.
Starting point is 01:59:09 There's a guy named Eric Musabani, and it's the 2000 Olympics in Sydney, Australia. This Olympics is one of the bigger Olympics that focused on, swimming because they had a swimmer at the time named Ian Thor. I'm going to get that wrong. Big Olympics for the 2000s.
Starting point is 01:59:30 I think they call them Thorpeedo, which is a sick name. But there's a guy named Eric Muzbani. He has a swimmer for Equatorial Guinea. Ian Thorpe. Yeah. Nice. Doing all right. So Equatorial Guinea is a country that does not have an Olympic swim team, like other countries
Starting point is 01:59:46 that you're imagining. U.S. Australia, whatever. But there are something that happens within the Olympics where certain countries are allowed in based on a lottery system for developing nations or developing teams within nations to sort of give them like, hey, like we'll let you come here, we'll pay for the flight, we'll pay for your guy to come here, they'll participate. And it will maybe possibly give him experience, inspire the country to invest more into the Olympics, whatever it might be. Eric Musabani gets picked from Ekhtwaii to go swim at the 2000 Olympics
Starting point is 02:00:17 in I think like the 100 meter freestyle mind you I would say average time for someone in the 100 is like 50 seconds 48's like pretty fast 47's world record
Starting point is 02:00:32 but within the Olympics like it's within milliseconds to seconds of each other Eric gets put in on a heat that is not even basically on television The same dude, I'm pretty sure, had never seen an Olympic swimming pool before. Yeah, so this is fun. So he is a guy who, like, enjoys swimming and wants to get, like, wants to just do well on it.
Starting point is 02:00:51 He swims in a lake and then also swims in a hotel pool that is 12 meters long or like something roughly like that, like 30 feet. And he's only allowed to swim at the hotel pool when it's closed. So overnight, five in the morning, whatever it might be, they're letting him like do some laps in the pool. does not know how to do a traditional flip turn. I don't even know, like a lot of the times he didn't have access to goggles. There's some crazy stories about this guy. They let him go, and they let him go in the heat that is for the lottery winners of the people who don't have Olympic teams or don't have like the funds or whatever it might be, the infrastructure.
Starting point is 02:01:26 The two other people don't really know how it works, and they fall start, the first one. And if you fall start at the second time, you're disqualified. Now, I think there should be more lean. can see for the teams that don't really know what's going on. But the other people all false start. So now it's just him alone in the pool. And mighty, there's people in this massive stadium waiting for like the night event when there's going to be like the big heavy hitters.
Starting point is 02:01:51 So they're just there early. Eric then swims at alone. Goes down there, gets to one side, turns around, comes back, famously says the last 15 meters were really tough. And if you watch, you're like, damn, I hope they have life cards at this fucking event. He finishes it in a minute 50. I think it's like a minute 48 or something. So literally a full minute after.
Starting point is 02:02:15 Everyone else would have finished if he would have been in like the final televised heat at night. But very cool. He finishes. Everyone goes nuts in the stance also. He wins the heat. Yeah, he wins a heat, which is awesome. Also, everyone goes nuts in the stance. Like there's no one else to watch.
Starting point is 02:02:31 You got one guy like fully struggling to do it. Obviously should not maybe be in that situation. They go nuts for him. He finishes. It's awesome. They end up giving him the nickname Eric the Eel, which is awesome. Eric the Eel then goes back to his home country of Ecuadoral Guinea. And because of all the fanfare, people have donated and also countries willing to put money into the infrastructure.
Starting point is 02:02:57 They get a pool, Olympic size. He becomes the head coach of the equatorial Guinea swimming team. That's sick. Isn't that amazing? It wins a heat in the Olympics. That's so awesome. I mean, that's far. I love the Olympics.
Starting point is 02:03:09 Dude, I had one final fact that I haven't shared with you. This one might be a fair one. Since the 1980 Olympics, no white male athlete has qualified for the 100 meter final in the Olympics. Wow. Only been black dudes since 1980. That's crazy. That's an insane amount of time. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:33 Was it 44 years? That's a crazy one. And everyone's like, wants Matthew Bowling to be really good at sprinting. He's the white kid from Texas right now that like crushed the high school. Just crushed high school. And they're like, he's going to be the guy. But that's insane. 1980.
Starting point is 02:03:50 Yeah. I don't know if bowling's going to be the gray white heart. I'll be honest. 1980? That's insane. We'll see. This would have been his Olympic, but I think COVID sort of threw him off. 1980, though.
Starting point is 02:04:03 Damn. So that's something to watch out for. Yeah. Just saying, if you see a white dude second, just remember this, you know, he's making history. That's true. Just remember that. Even if he makes the final heat,
Starting point is 02:04:15 he's making history. If he doesn't, if he fucking dares his hamstring, awesome. If you're rooting for an underdog, if you want an underdog to root for, watch the 100 meter and just look at any fucking German guy. Oh, that's great.
Starting point is 02:04:27 All right, let's just see what happens. I love the Olympics. Yeah. We have to, we possibly can do another episode. I have to see if the people, if people want it. We might have to. I love the Olympics.
Starting point is 02:04:36 I can't wait to watch all of them. Yeah, I'm going to watch some of it. We'll see it. I feel like it hasn't been as hyped this year, but that's going to be awesome. Maybe after this episode, you're going to get people fucking bricked up. Cool. Thank you guys so much for tuning in. Appreciate y'all.
Starting point is 02:04:48 This has been the craziest Olympic moments ever so far. It's probably going to be crazier ones that happen this year. We'll do another episode. Thank you all. Peace.

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