Camp Gagnon - EVERY Dark Conspiracy About the Iran War

Episode Date: March 6, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Earlier this week, the United States and Israel launched a massive coordinated military strike against Iran. Within hours, Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Khomeini was dead. Tehran was burning, and the internet exploded with theories about what was really going on. And some of these theories came from anonymous accounts, some came from journalists, some came from former members of Congress, and at least one of them came from a dude that claims he could bend spoons with his mind. Regardless, what you're about to hear are the 10 most talked about conspiracy theories surrounding the Iran war. We're going to lay each one out, all the evidence or lack thereof,
Starting point is 00:00:33 the connections, the claims, and really why people are talking about this conspiracy, and ultimately let you decide what you believe, and I'll weigh in with my opinion as well. Because in a world where Epstein files are dropping and psychics are taking credit for military operations and ancient demon statues are burning in the streets of Iran, sometimes the truth is even crazier than fiction. So, sit back, relax, and welcome to camp. What's up people and welcome back to My name is Mark Agdon, and thank you for joining me in my tent where every single week we explore the most interesting, fascinating, controversial stories from around the world from all time forever. Yes, that's what I do here in this tent. I try to figure out all the stuff that is going on. And, oh boy, we've had quite the week.
Starting point is 00:01:20 But before we jump in, I want to say thank you guys so much for making this show possible for clicking this episode, for commenting for all that stuff, because every time you do that, you keep the lights on. Here at the campsite, you keep the fire burning. And also, you keep, you know, Chrystos, you know, making seven to eight figures a year. You know what I mean? He's extremely well paid. He's connected to the Epstein files. He's a committed globalist, but he's also a friend of mine. So, Chris, how are you? All those things are allegedly? No, no, no, no, no, Chris does, I'm not going to let you defend yourself now, all right? The damage is already done. We got to jump in, all right? As you guys know, earlier this week, there was military action that was, you know, carried out in Iran. And full disclosure, we, this is being recorded on Monday. So as the fog of war continues to roll out, there are things that,
Starting point is 00:02:04 that might have changed in the time that this episode has dropped. Earlier this week, dropped an episode with Chris Cappy, a military analyst and journalist and former U.S. military member who basically broke down his perspective and kind of gave us the pros and cons from a technical level. But today, I wanted to break down the theories. Now, if you know anything about me,
Starting point is 00:02:24 you will know that I was raised by a conspiracy theorist. My entire life has been embroiled in the matters of the unknown. My mom is truly just like she's been on the conspiracy way for a long time. So every time something broke out, she would always be like, think about what's really going on, who really benefits, where are the real players actually moving? And what is the symbolism underneath everything. Now, some of the stuff is true. Some of the stuff is unsubstantiated, difficult to prove. And some of the stuff is just complete nonsense. And today, I want to go through all of the theories and breakdown really what's going on. So I'll weigh in with my opinion, which again is just my opinion. And I'm curious to know what you guys think. Let's start with this one. This is the Epstein distraction theory, okay? And it's not exactly what you think. So on February 24th, 2026, NPR published a report that the Department of Justice had withheld a portion of the Epstein file, specifically portions related to allegations against Donald Trump. Four days later, American bombs are falling on Iran. Now, people are going to look at this timeline and say,
Starting point is 00:03:27 hey, there's something weird going on here. Okay, Trump's name appears in the released Epstein files, approximately like 38,000 times, according to multiple animals who combed through all the documents. And that number started circulating on X within hours of the release and it caught fire. Actually, Kathy Griffin was one of the first public figures to actually start talking about this
Starting point is 00:03:47 and wrote on Instagram that Trump's reaction to his name being mentioned 38,000 times in the Epstein files, that means it's time to bomb Iran. Which, you know, I mean, a funny joke, but unfortunately, it seems like there might be some fire near the smoke. Now, it also thinks like the number of times that Trump's name was involved,
Starting point is 00:04:05 like started going down because certain files started getting removed. As a matter of fact, actor John Cusack called the strikes a wag the dog war, basically meaning like divert attention from the, you know, Epstein stuff and, you know, help fulfill Netanyahu's wishes. Those were his words. Stephen King called for Trump's impeachment over these unauthorized strikes. Maddie Hassan, uh, the journalist and political pundit and former MSNBC host, said it plainly on a February 28th live stream.
Starting point is 00:04:32 he said 100% true that the Epstein, that Epstein is a factor in all this. So it gets even more strange because messages from the Epstein files themselves, now circulating widely on social media, allegedly discussed Trump's psychological profile in detail. The assessment attributed to members of Epstein's inner circle basically say this, if Trump is ever, quote, cornered like a rat, he will start a global conflict. Specifically, he will bomb Iran to play the hero and rally public favor. around a wartime president.
Starting point is 00:05:05 And in his eight-minute video addressing the strikes, post on Truth Social in the early morning hours of February 28th, Trump did exactly what the prediction described. He played the hero, which should not be surprising for Trump, right? He loves playing the hero. He addressed the Iranian people directly and told them, The hour of your freedom is at hand. And he said, no president was willing to do what I am willing to do tonight.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Now you have a president who's going to give you what you want. He called the operation a noble mission and urged Iranians to seize control of your destiny. The language, the framing of himself as a liberator, a savior, the one president brave enough to, you know, to act and to get rid of this, you know, global threat mirrors kind of what people are suggesting happen in the Epstein emails, that he is cornered, he's, you know, up against a wall, and he's going to do something to basically rally support around himself. A post by journalist Abir Khatib shares images of these messages, and they went viral on X. I mean, over, like, I mean, millions of views, like 800,000 impressions.
Starting point is 00:06:04 A Reddit thread discussing these messages became widely upvoted on the conspiracy subredits. And what makes the theory unusual is that it has traction across the political spectrum. I mean, on the left, it's framed as Trump like sacrificing Iranian lives and American lives in some way to save himself, basically. And even on parts of like the MAGA right, including former representative Marjorie Taylor Green, it's framed as a betrayal of the America First Agenda. basically Green says on X, we voted for America First and Zero Wars. And she called the bombing of a school, which killed dozens, heartbreaking and tragic,
Starting point is 00:06:41 and said, this is not what we thought Maga was supposed to be. Shame. So the theory is pretty simple, right? The most powerful man in the world had 38,000 named reasons with the Epstein files and potentially millions more in what is suspected are files regarding Trump that have not been released as reasons to basically change the subject. And according to those who knew him best, the people who allegedly had compromising material on him, which again is alleged, they knew exactly what he would do when cornered. And, you know, the four days after NPR reported it, he did exactly that.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Now, the likelihood of this, I don't know. I mean, it seems like it's very convenient, okay? I'll go with that. But, you know, whether the war was launched specifically to bear the story, maybe that shifted it like a month or two, maybe like, six months. But in my mind, the circumstances that precipitated this conflict with Iran were always going to happen. That's just my personal opinion. I mean, whether it was Trump, whether it was Kamala, I think it was going to happen a matter what. I mean, you know, Professor, Professor Jang from predictive history, he called this two years ago. He said there's absolutely going to be a ground
Starting point is 00:07:53 troop invasion. He actually said boots on the ground in Iran by 2027. Now, this happened a year earlier than his prediction and maybe the Epstein situation kind of, you know, sped things up. But I don't know. I'm going to give this like a, I'm going to give this to like a medium. I'm going to give it to like a medium likelihood. Like the fact that it happened like within this month, I'll give that a high likelihood. Whether the fact that this happened at all, I'm going to give that a low likelihood. So for that reason, I think medium is, I think medium is fair.
Starting point is 00:08:24 What do you think, Chris does? I think medium is actually high for these. You think that's high? I think the level medium is high for a conspiracy. Oh, okay. You think medium would be like it's mostly true. That it's more, most likely true than not. I think the Epstein thing is, it's just the fact that it's happening this week is helpful.
Starting point is 00:08:46 They're like, hey, we have another thing. It's just the plane is getting flooded. Like you're just blasting information into the fray. And it just kind of gets people worked up and not talking about that, which is very nice. Sure. So, I mean, I think it was going to happen. inevitable, things going to happen to matter what. Like, I think America has been talking about Iran having, you know, nuclear warheads and being about to have a nuclear, a nuclear bomb, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:10 in two weeks for the last 20 years. You know what I mean? Like, all of our allies in the region want this. Like, there's, there's a lot of precipitating factors. Whether or not it's justified or not, I'm not saying that, but I'm just saying it was inevitable. And the timing, maybe. Anyway, let's move on to another one, the petro dollar, okay? This theory has nothing to do with Epstein. okay finally a theory that doesn't involve him it has nothing to do with psychics or stargates or any of that we'll get to that later all right but this one is about money specifically the most powerful currency on earth and what happens when countries try to stop using it so a little bit of history 1971 president nixon took the united states off of the gold standard basically all of our dollars that were printed were backed by physical gold that we had it was tethered or you know pinned pegged rather to a specific actual rare you know a rare material And the dollar should have collapsed, but it didn't. Because three years later, the Nixon administration cut a deal with Saudi Arabia. All Saudi oil would be sold exclusively in U.S. dollars, and the revenues would then be
Starting point is 00:10:09 reinvested in U.S. Treasury bonds. And the deal was extended to the rest of OPEC. So any country on earth that wanted to buy oil has to buy it in American dollars. And so as a result, the dollar becomes America's greatest export. Our money is no longer backed by gold. it's backed by oil. And this petro dollar recycling system has financed, you know, American government spending and military operations and consumer debt basically for 50 years since like the inception of this, you know, petro dollar. So now what happens when a country tries to stop using this?
Starting point is 00:10:44 So in 2000, Saddam Hussein switched Iraqi oil sales from dollars to euros. Three years later, the United States invades Iraq. And one of the first things that America did after conquering Iraq was revert oil sales back to the U.S. dollar. In 2009, Muammar Gaddafi proposed a gold-back gold dinar for African energy trade. And two years later, in 2011, NATO intervened. Gaddafi is killed and the gold dinar idea dies with him. Then Venezuela begins selling oil in yen. And in early 2026, the United States conducts a military operation and spoiler alert, the U.S. government took control of the sale of oil. And Venezuelan oil is now sold in dollars and not in yen or other currencies.
Starting point is 00:11:28 So Iraq, Libya, Venezuela, and now Iran, four countries trying to move off of this petro dollar within, I mean, what, 26 years? Yeah, I mean, that's a lot of smoke on that one. I'm going to be honest with you. So, by 2026, Iran was selling virtually all of its oil outside of this dollar system. Approximately 90% of its exports went to China, settled in yen through China's cross border interbank payment system, and this is a direct alternative to the U.S. controlled Swift network. Iran, Russia, and China had created what the Atlantic Council called an alternative market
Starting point is 00:12:06 of sanctioned oil, wherein payments are dominated or are denominated in Chinese currency. So basically because of all these U.S. sanctions on Iran, they're now, you know, getting very close with Russia and with China and exporting all their energy there, and they're obviously not going to use U.S. dollars. So Iran was part of this expanded Bricks coalition, which was basically building Bricks pay, and this is now a swift alternatives scheduled for full launch in 2026. And the economist William Clark has argued that U.S. belligerence towards the Iranian nuclear program is a cover for the deeper threat posed by Iranian oil, specifically Iran's effort to trade oil outside the dollar. So the bombs fell on February 28th. and then the dollar did exactly what this theory basically predicts.
Starting point is 00:12:55 On March 2nd, the first trading day after the strikes, the U.S. dollar index surged roughly 1% to a five-week high. Bloomberg had the headline, dollar surges as traders brace for war impact. Oil spiked over 13% with Brent Crude jumping past $82 a barrel. Gold surged past $5,400 an ounce, and Barclays estimated the dollar could strengthen about half a percent to one percent for every 10 percent increase in oil.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Oil had just jumped 13 percent. So here's what makes this theory a little bit more compelling. The United States is a net crude oil exporter. Japan, Europe, India, and China are massive importers. So when oil spikes, these countries need more dollars to pay for the same amount of oil. You can understand that, right? Supply, mechanically increasing demand for the U.S. dollar. As the website Investing Live noted, if oil prices serve from $70 to $100, massive oil importers, such as Japan and India, will have to pay over 40% more dollars just to secure the same amount of oil barrels.
Starting point is 00:14:02 I mean, there you go. I mean, there's another analysis that basically gives it very bluntly. Given the nature of this shock, it will be the dollar that benefits the most. What's up, people? We're going to take a break really quick because I want to tell you about a sponsor we have that I'm so stoked about. Yes, it's Chubbies. If you never heard of Chubbies, I've been wearing these since legit, like, late high school. Yeah, I'm so stoked.
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Starting point is 00:16:09 America starts this war. Oil spikes. The world scrambles to get dollars in order to buy oil. and as a result, the dollar strengthens. Again, with this petrodollar, if every single barrel of oil is going to be bought in dollars, the more that oil spikes, the dollar's going to spike. So there you have it. I mean, the dollar strengthens and the higher oil prices benefit American shale producers,
Starting point is 00:16:33 many of whom the theory notes are major GOP donors. Now, this conspiracy gets even deeper. A theory on Binance Square frames the war as a strategy to address America's 10,000 billion dollar debt refinancing challenge. Basically, creating global panic through wars would effectively drive investors to U.S. bonds, which would lower yields and allow the government to refinance debt at cheaper rates. So what does that mean? When the world panics, investors flee to treasuries, and these treasury bonds are going to be a little bit more stable. Bond prices rise, yields will fall, and the government is able to refinance trillions at a lower interest rate.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Barons reported that bonds did behave as a safe haven after these strikes the first time in years. Now, the theory argues that war isn't just about punishing Iran. It's about sending a message to every Bricks nation, considering a permanent exit from the dollar system. So if Bricks Pay launches, again, Bricks Pay, this is like the competitor was swift, and this basically will allow it so that countries can settle their oil trading without ever touching a dollar. If that happens, the Petru Dollar will be affected. It could even just collapse completely. And with that, the mechanism that has financed American power and hegemony since 1974 would be affected.
Starting point is 00:17:51 And so the message is very clear that, hey, if you try to mess with this, this is what happens. Now, how likely is this? How legit is this theory? All right, let's go through some of this stuff. Just a recap, okay? The market data is pretty real, right? The dollar surged, oil spiked, bonds were rallying. And the pattern of U.S. military intervention following countries' attempts to,
Starting point is 00:18:12 trade oil in non-dollar currencies is at least a very interesting coincidence. I'm going to give that one a high likelihood. Now, whether the war was launched to strengthen the dollar and punish the de-dollarization, that one I'm a little bit more medium on. I don't think it's purely that. I mean, that might just be like another sort of co-founding factor. But there is, I think, a very clear alignment with America's financial interests and its military targets. And if you try to mess with the U.S. dollar is probably going to be some problems and some B2 bombers heading your way. That would be, I think, a pretty safe bet. Now, is it done with the explicit purpose of trying to, of trying to, you know, boost the dollar in order to help the GOP donors? I don't, I think that
Starting point is 00:18:59 frames it as like two one-sided. I think ultimately the American War machine and just the corporations that basically run our entire country, all are going to benefit, not all, but all of the military military defense contractors and the oil manufacturers are going to benefit from these types of conflicts. So they're funding both sides. Like they don't really care. It's nonpartisan. You know what I mean? It's not red, it's not blue. It's black crude oil. That's what it's all about, dude. I mean, Chris, what do you think? You give this one a pretty high likelihood? What do you think? Just the fact that it has to do with oil pretty high. Yeah, I think so, right? But I'm not going to trust a Greek with economics. Anyway, there's another theory that this one is fun. Okay,
Starting point is 00:19:39 This one is a little wild, so just bear with me here. Okay? This is a theory that gained traction after the 2003 of Iraq War and is now being applied to Iran, that the real reason Western powers invade the Middle East has nothing to do with oil or nuclear weapons or even terrorism. You want to know what it has to do with? I'm glad you asked. It's about controlling the long-lost ancient technology known as interdimensional portals. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:06 That don't, guys, don't lose me. telling you this is what people are saying on the internet. All right? So just hear out the theory before you mock me. Okay? Basically, there's something called the ziggurat of er. This is a... Guys, let's get the theory out, okay?
Starting point is 00:20:22 There's people literally fighting a war in the Middle East to protect us from this portal. And you guys are going to laugh about it. What's it called? It's called a ziggurat of ur. Sounds like a slur. Okay, don't... You're a little zigarette, you know that? So, this is basically a 4,000-year-old Sumerian temple. Now, conspiracy theorists have claimed that the U.S. military's suspicious
Starting point is 00:20:43 interest in protecting certain archaeological sites while letting others be looted suggests that they were searching for something specific, and the theory got enough traction to even be featured on the history channel. Now, the same framework is just being applied to Iran, so let's lay out the case. Iran is home to some of the oldest continuously inhabited sites on Earth. Its pre-Islamic history stretches back all the way to the Elamite civilization, contemporaries of the Sumerians. So if ancient portals existed in Mesopotamia, Iran would have them too. Now, proponents of this theory point to the suspicious targeting of sites near ancient ruins. They cite Iran's proximity to Iraq, where according to the theory, this portal was already secured in the 2003 invasion. Shout to the
Starting point is 00:21:23 boys. They connected the dots to these broader claims about elite knowledge of ancient technology and ancient civilizations and like the real story of humanity. So the theory basically says, why does every major war of the 21st century seem to happen in the cradle of civilization, where all the Abrahamic religions are started, where humanity is said to have started at the very beginning? I mean, probably not a Stargate. I'll be honest. This theory persists because it just kind of offers a unified explanation for Western military intervention, and because the U.S. military's interest in Middle Eastern archaeology still is, like, pretty unclear and not super talked about. Like, there's some sites that they care about, some sites that they
Starting point is 00:22:05 don't. And this theory, I think, is just trying to wrap that all up. And they're basically like, why is there so much investment in the Middle East? And it's like, well, I don't know. Dude, maybe they discovered the most precious energy source under the ground. And every one of them has it. And they didn't know about it until like the 30s. That would be my theory as to why the Middle East is being blasted into. But then people will be like, oh, what about the Crusades? Fair point. Okay. It also happens to be the Genesis, no pun intended, of all the Abrahamic religions. So that's going to be a pretty important place also. People are going to fight over that. Of course. So I think that's probably why the Middle East is more of a hot button. It's like a rich
Starting point is 00:22:44 history with a lot of, you know, civilization, all the religions and a bunch of oil. I mean, you got to hop it if you ask me. It's also like kind of dead center, like the middle of everything. It's like basically bordering Europe. You got China on the other side, you know, the Balkans. America's even far away. But I don't know. That's just, I'm going to give it. I'm going to give this one a low likelihood. What do you think, Chris does? Zigarette's the only one I'm saying, I'm going out on a limb, 100%. 100%. You believe it? Well, I guess we'll have to see. All right, let's jump into another one. Okay. Iran burned the effigy of ball. This is, this one is crazy because it's kind of
Starting point is 00:23:23 actually true. Can you pull up a video of this? I appreciate that. During Iran's February a 2026 rallies commemorating the 1979 revolution, which is where the Ayatollah basically took over from Pahlavi and overthrew the Shah and created the Islamic revolution that we see now in Iran.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Something strange happened. Across multiple cities, Tehran, Isfahan, and other cities in Iran, demonstrators burned giant statues and the statues were like horned bulls and they were marked with like a star of David and like
Starting point is 00:23:58 the number 666. And again, this is what's circulating on social media. I didn't go to Iran. I didn't see it. Now, the statues, according to the demonstrators, according to what a caption I read on TikTok said, represented Ball. Now, if you don't know, Ball,
Starting point is 00:24:12 ball is like an ancient deity of the Levant that has a period over and over. And basically it's like, you could say, a false god, Satan and myself. Yeah, this is who the Israelites were worshipping when Moses came down from the temple, I'm pretty sure. And also ball is life.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Also ball is life. Great point. Ball knowledge. Look at this guy. Now, this was strange. And it doesn't seem like it has, according to social media reports, this is something that had never happened
Starting point is 00:24:41 in these, you know, previous revolutionary anniversary rallies. We'd actually see a video of it here. Now, is it real? Is it AI? I don't know. I'm assuming it's real. I mean, it seems like most of these reports
Starting point is 00:24:51 are pretty legit. But, yeah, you can see them actually burning the effigy. Here it goes. Lights it up. I mean, do we really need... There we go. I mean, pretty strange.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Like, it's like a interesting symbol to have in the middle of a giant anniversary for your country. And they see it, like, Fourth of July, like we do fireworks. I don't think we would do like a burning effigy of like an ancient Middle Eastern God. You're not Muslim.
Starting point is 00:25:26 That's a good point. That is a good point. Yeah, I guess maybe this is their thing. I don't know, bad. Even my Muslim friends, they're not really burning effigies that much. This seems like a specific type of, I don't know, it seems like a symbolic end times vibe to me. I mean, the statues are pretty big. It's like this little like horned demon with, you know, figures covered in like these anti-Western anti-Israel images. And they were built in, like, from these combustible materials. And at the peak of
Starting point is 00:25:53 the rallies, like crowds would gather together and they would chant things as they were burning these things up. But who is Ball? Why is this happening? Now, in the Hebrew Bible, Ball is a Canaanite deity, specifically, that is associated with fertility and storms and was a major rival to the God of Israel. The most famous conflict is between the Prophet Elijah and the prophets of Ball at Mount Carmel. This shows up in First Kings, where Elijah challenged 450 of Ball's priests to defeat him, and Ball worship was also associated with child sacrifice, and the Prophet Jeremiah condemned the practice explicitly. It literally, says in the book of Jeremiah, they have built the high places of Ball to burn their children
Starting point is 00:26:33 in the fire as offerings to Ball. And in ancient Semitic language, Ball literally just means like Lord or Master. Now, Ball also appears in the Quran. So in Surah as Safat, in the story of the Prophet Ilias, which was the Islamic name for Elijah, Allah says, do you call upon Ball and abandon the best of creators? basically condemns the worship of Baal as idolatry, and this is the same message that the Iranian demonstrators were broadcasting by burning this statue. Now, Iran International, a London-based Persian-language news outlet, reported the coordinated burnings, and videos started to spread rapidly on social media, and apparently, you know, obviously conspiracy people were going crazy.
Starting point is 00:27:18 A YouTube video titled, Iranians burn satanic statue, Ball after Epstein file released, framed the event as Iran sending a deliberate message to Western elites, and the theory was that Epsine Island wasn't just about trafficking, it was about occult practices and that the elites were visiting the island to basically worship ball in secret. Now, another analyst basically described it as geopolitical theater combined with spiritual warfare, claiming that what you worship in secret, we expose and we reject. Now, the theory basically connects ancient Canaanite religion where ball worship allegedly involved child sacrifice to modern elite trafficking networks and it frames the burning not as political theater, but as spiritual warfare. Iran is basically
Starting point is 00:27:57 positioning itself as the enemy of the satanic western ruling class. So by burning ball, Iran and the Iranian people are saying, we know who you worship. We know that you guys are Satan worshippers. You worship the wrong God. You don't worship Allah. You worship Ball. And we reject it. And we will expose you.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Now, the timing coming amid like the Epstein stuff, you know, many conspiracies there to see it as deliberate, like this, like a declaration. Now, what is the likelihood of this one? What do I think? I mean, the statue burning seems. real. So I'm going to give that one not even conspiracy. That's just a thing that happened. They had no precedent
Starting point is 00:28:33 at prior revolution or anniversary events, which makes them strange. And I mean, just the symbolism and sort of like the visual of seeing like this giant Canaanite the god getting burned is just sort of strange. It's like Game of Thrones almost.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Now, whether the Iranian government intended this effigy burning to be seen as you know, like Epstein and like the corruption and like the trafficking and the Western elites. And I don't, I actually don't think that. I think Ball is supposed to just represent the wickedness and the satanic nature of, you know, the West of America, of Israel as an ally of America. I think that's probably what it means to the people at these specific events that were burning these things.
Starting point is 00:29:19 I don't even know how connected the military was to it. I'm assuming that everything that happens over there the military is involved with or the government rather is involved with. So I assume that it was done kind of at the behest of the government. But again, I don't even have confirmation on that. I don't know if it was just like a couple rogue people that like build a savage just to burn them. My assumption is that it's government. That's what I think.
Starting point is 00:29:37 But I don't have confirmation. I think it's probably more about the symbolism of America as the great Satan. And that's kind of what, that's where I would put it. That's kind of what I think the theory is and that they view ball as like the adversary to a law. And that's what the symbolism is. That's my take. that basically, yeah, Ball is basically the Shatan, the Iblis, as they would say, in Islam.
Starting point is 00:30:01 All right, let's jump into another one, okay? This is, this one's a wild one, all right? So just bear with me here. This is basically a theory that Israel used psychic warfare and that there was a supernatural attack on Iran. I'm actually going to need your help with, like, trying to fact check this one, Christos. So this guy, Yuri Geller, he's a famous celebrity. He was very popular back in the day for, like, ability like Ben Spoons on television. He also happens to be Israeli, and he claims that he helped
Starting point is 00:30:29 Israel's military strikes on Iran. Yes. In an interview with the Jerusalem Post published on July 16, 2025, Uri Geller stated that he and a clandestine group of psychics used their abilities during Operation Rising Lion to assist Israel's attack on Iranian nuclear facilities, and he was not being metaphorical. All right. Now, it sounds crazy, but until you consider the fact that Gellor, technically has a history with intelligence agencies. Now, there are declassified documents that confirmed that Geller was a subject of the CIA Stargate project that happened in the 1970s, which was a real program that spent like $20 million of the course of two decades researching psychic phenomena for military applications.
Starting point is 00:31:11 And the CIA's own assessment, which is now public, stated that Geller presented his paranormal abilities in what they said was a convincing and unambiguous manner. Now, Geller isn't the only one that makes these supernatural claims. Abdullah Ganji, a former editor of a newspaper linked to Iran's Revolutionary Guard, publicly claimed that Israel used occult and supernatural forces in the attacks. Now, this isn't fringe commentary. Okay, this appeared on Iranian state-affiliated media, and Iran's Supreme Leader himself had previously accused Western intelligence agencies
Starting point is 00:31:44 of using gin entities for espionage. If you don't know what a gin is, it's basically like a spirit. Sometimes they're good, sometimes they're bad. They're mostly associated with, like, being bad. You could say maybe a demon, but not exactly that. Regardless, NSA documents that were declassified in 2011 mentioned the theoretical possibility of concentrating psychics to cause much matter to reverse direction, potentially affecting an entire city. Now, Geller closed his Jerusalem post interview by noting that a Houthi missile was heading for Tel Aviv and said, I'm going to do something about the missile. all right um this one is a this one's a tricky one i mean you you see the article right i'll be honest
Starting point is 00:32:29 um okay let's break down a couple pieces project stargate that was a real thing gellers participation that's real whether psychic warfare played a role in the iran strike i'm going to say probably not that's my professional opinion on this one i I don't know, people look at Stargate and they're like, dude, $20 million to see if psychics, it's like, yeah, dude, it was $20 million over like two decades. So we're talking like a million dollars a year. And sure, that's a lot of money. But in the totality of the U.S. military budget, that's like 0.0001%.
Starting point is 00:33:07 And I view, in my personal opinion, things like remote viewing, Stargate, stuff like that. Is it possible? Sure. To me, I see it as like low cost, high impact. So specifically in a time, like the 70s, 80s, we're like, we're kind of still rogue trying stuff out. MK. Ultra, sure. Let's like just be a little crazy about it.
Starting point is 00:33:27 I think that they were investing small amounts of money into things that had potentially massive returns. Yeah, let's spend a million dollars this year to see if we can use psychics for war. And if it doesn't work, it's only a million dollars. Who cares? And if it does work, oh, man, that's a massive advantage. Even if it works a little bit, that's a massive advantage. And that's kind of the way I see these things.
Starting point is 00:33:47 low-cost, high-impact. As far as Yuri Geller's involvement, he says it happened. I mean, he would know better than I do. But with my own personal opinion, without ever having met the man, with all due respect, I'm going to say no. I'm going to say it's probably a mixture of like U.S. intelligence Mossad and, you know, probably actual intelligence officers that are going around collecting intel, finding agents, compromising them, and taking out targets.
Starting point is 00:34:16 That's just my take. I'm going to go low on this one. What do you think? Chait Chibati seems to think we have it 35% right. Oh, really? Yeah. Wait, what does that mean? That's the accuracy score out of 100. It gives it a 35%.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Yeah, basically the biggest problem was NSA reversing matter claim. That's highly inaccurate. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that one seems likely not true. A little bit of Iranian supernatural rhetoric. Not very accurate. Well, it seems like they're probably, that's a good point, actually. I think they're talking about that probably metaphorically. Like, again, they're speaking to a predominantly Shia Muslim country
Starting point is 00:34:53 that has enforced a very strong Muslim control over their society or a strong control over society using Islam. And so, of course, they're going to use symbolism and sort of like parts of speech that invoke the Quran or Hadiths in order to communicate with their people. So I don't view that as like, oh, literally, I view it as like metaphorically, my opinion. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:35:14 And lastly, the Israeli psychic, warfare unit, it's just unsupported claims. Right. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's, I guess it's a little bit more euphemistic to describe whatever Yuri Geller's talking about. What's up, guys? We're going to take a break really quick because you know what time it is. It's time to level up and Bluchew just dropped something wild. Okay, Bluetooth's been rocking with us from the beginning. So, of course, we have to rock, pun intended, with them, all right? And what they've just done is changing the game.
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Starting point is 00:36:49 You can visit BluChu.com for more details and important safety information. And thank you so much to Bluptu for keeping the lights on and making this show possible. Now let's get back to it. All right, another one. How about this? How about the dental implant tracker? You heard about this one? This is basically the idea that, like, you know, the supreme leader of Iran is one of the
Starting point is 00:37:09 most protected men on earth. He moved around constantly, rarely appeared in public and is surrounded by layers of security, inside a bunker and knows full well, like, oh, the totality of like the United States military plus Israel is trying to take me out, plus Saudi Arabia. I mean, all these people want him gone. So how do you get a guy like this, all right? Right. I mean, look at February 28th, all of a sudden we dropped 30 bombs on his compound in Tehran in a daytime strike and like 12 hours later, he's out. So the Iranian state media confirmed his death on March 1st and 40 days of morning have been declared in Iran. But how do they find him? How do you find where he's at?
Starting point is 00:37:49 Now, there's, you know, the skeptic kind of contemporary take. Like, oh, the United States has intelligence operations and agents within the country and potentially within his close circle that are able to find his movements and able to basically tip off where he's going. They're able to find a what they call like a, I've read exactly the term, but it's basically like a day of life report. We're like, okay, what does he do on an average day? Can we aggregate that data over many, many months to basically track where he's going to be on this specific day at this time. That's one theory. The other theory, that's way more interesting that was circulated on Reddit and X, is that
Starting point is 00:38:21 they literally put tracking devices hidden in his dental implants. Now, this theory sounds crazy, but there's actually some precedent, okay? There are released documents from the raid on Osama bin Laden's compound that revealed that the al-Qaeda leader was deeply paranoid about exactly this thing. According to the documents in question, bin Laden suspected that in an Iranian, dentist had placed a tracking chip in his wife's tooth during a dental visit. He described the suspected device as about the length of a grain of wheat and the width of a fine piece of vermicelli.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Now, that's a interesting way to describe the size of a chip. Vermicelli. What even is vermicelli? It's a rice. All right, of course you would know. You and your pretentious 1% disposition, Christos. I'm sure you eat caviar and vermicelli all the time. Sorry, it's actually a very thin, long noodle.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Oh, thank goodness. Oh, I got your ass. Oh, that makes me feel amazing. Anyway, bin Laden's paranoia, as it turns out, is not crazy, right? Like, RFID chips, small enough to fit into dental work, have existed for years. And I'm sure intelligence agencies have thought about this exact idea. The question is whether they've actually deployed them. Now, this theory obviously gained a ton of life after Kamani's death.
Starting point is 00:39:40 And basically, if the strikes, required real-time location data on targets who rarely appear in public, some form of close proximity tracking technology would be necessary. So you either need an agent or some type of target within his inner circle. It's able to give information on a regular basis or is able to have a tracking device on him, maybe a tracking device on his clothing, maybe having some type of espionage technology within his bunker or a dental implant. This is an ideal vector if you're able to pull it off, but the issue is that it requires invasive procedures and it would be difficult to get a chip in someone's mouth.
Starting point is 00:40:17 But the theory is that maybe there was a high-ranking orthodontist or a dentist that was basically doing dental work on the top-ranking military personnel. And he was basically acquired as an asset by either the CIA or Mossad and was then given the technology and was placing these chips inside of the top brass. And this is just kind of what the theory is.
Starting point is 00:40:43 It's circulated on Twitter, and this is ultimately where it's at. The United States and Israel both have neither confirmed nor denied that this technology was used to identify where a Khomeini was. Now, in my opinion, this one is tough, but it's actually interesting because either way, I think it's kind of an intelligence operation, my opinion. So one way is that, yes, CIA, Mossad, some intelligence organization was using this. technology to track mani or his high-ranking commanders i think that that's a little tricky because one why would they release this information now right like if they're still utilizing it like there's got to be other people maybe they took them all out but if it was this successful like why not use it in china why not go over and use it in russia you can't use it in england they don't
Starting point is 00:41:33 do dental work there so like you have to use it in the place that you can still use it you know what I mean. Now, my thinking with this, though, and based off my conversation with Chris Cappy, who kind of said the same thing, it seems like these sort of theories kind of percolate around these types of events where, like, they kind of float these rumors and aggrandize the intelligence capabilities of the CIA of Mossad. And either that's pushed by them themselves as an intelligence operation on the people to basically say, like, hey, this is maybe true and you guys got to be paranoid or it was just done organically and then it was you know proliferated through the internet and supported by these organizations to basically make the people that they're up against their
Starting point is 00:42:17 opposition their enemies or their targets that they're trying to surveil so paranoid where they go through their life being like I can't go to the dentist because what if I'm being tracked I can't eat food because what if the chef put a tracking device in my food it's in my stomach and now all of a sudden I'm being tracked of where I go it makes them so paranoid it ruins their quality of life and deeply affects their ability to operate in the normal world. So either way, I'm like, I feel like intelligence has their hands on this theory. The fact that we're talking about it, the fact people have heard about it, I'm going to say high chance that there's an intelligence thing happening, low chance that they literally
Starting point is 00:42:50 use dental implants to actually find Kamenei. Final, final ruling on that. What do you think? It's diabolical that they say they did it to the spouse. Crazy. I mean, that was Bin Laden's concern. Yeah. He was like, oh, my wife.
Starting point is 00:43:03 of course she goes in she gets a thing I don't know he goes and takes all her teeth out I know could benefit him kind of could be a nice move you know what I mean they're stuck in a bunker he's like hey baby I have to remove your teeth to prevent the tracking only the tracking that's why I'm removing your teeth come on now come on baby also vermicelli is also a type of rice oh stop it okay edit that out expunge that from the record all right people uh we went through six of the most interesting theories but we're not done okay there are are three more interesting conspiracy theories that are circulating right now on the web. And I want to tell you guys about them, but they're a little crazy. I'll be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:43:41 And I don't want to get blasted off the internet here on YouTube. So these are going to go behind a paywall. I think it's probably going to be YouTube memberships. Maybe it's Patreon. I don't really know, to be honest with you. We don't even really have a name for it. We just like are probably going to get demonetized for having these. So we want to put them out somewhere that you guys can go check them out. If you guys have a good name, I think the inner sanctum is nice. What do you think? Campfire. The campfire is good. The campground.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Oh, the campfire is nice because you want to be close to the campfire. I like that. I like that. Okay, maybe the campfire. Yeah. And maybe it's the campfire
Starting point is 00:44:11 and then there's the intersankton. That's the upper tier. That could be nice. Or where all the camp counselors go to make out. Whoa, dude, you dirty dog, Christos. But over there, like, I want to try to do, like, I want to do zooms once a month where, like,
Starting point is 00:44:27 I zoom with the people of, like, the top tier where, we just hang out and talk, discuss episodes, discuss like crazy theories. I want to do like merch stuff where I can like send out merch on the upper tier. Start a podcast for your producer. Yes, exactly. The Christos files where Christos basically
Starting point is 00:44:43 just does a tell all of everything that happens here in the time. I think, I mean, doing extra episodes would be awesome. But, and then maybe I think ad free episodes should be for sure. Like, hey, you can watch everything without ads because people do comment about the ads,
Starting point is 00:44:57 but also we gotta keep the fire burning people. All right? We already talked about that. So there's a bunch of stuff. I haven't officially figured out exactly what it's going to be, but it's in the description right now, wherever it all ended up. You can see it there. I'm going to figure it out this week. And yeah, I would love for you guys to subscribe. You can check out that, the final part of our conspiracy series over there on behind that paywall. And I appreciate you guys so much for support of the show. Truly, every time you guys click, every time you guys comment, every time you guys buy merch on the website. And now every time you guys join us over at the campfire. You truly, you keep the lights on it. I mean, I'm telling you, you, you keep the fire burning.
Starting point is 00:45:33 All right. Anyway, this has been another episode of Camp Gagong. Thank you guys so much. Check out Camp R&D if you want the threads. Check out religion camp. If you like religious deep dives, that's how I figure out where everyone thinks we're going to go. That's what everyone believes about the divine.
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