Camp Gagnon - Every Hindu Denomination Explained | Reincarnation, Karma Dharma

Episode Date: March 16, 2025

🚨Make Sure to Rate us 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟Today we explore the different types of Hinduism on planet earth WELCOME TO RELIGION CAMP! 🏕️Shoutout to our sponsor: Ground NewsGround News: https://...ground.news/gagnon 👕🧢 GET YOUR CAMP DRIP HERE: https://campgoods.co/🏕️ Get The Daily Today In History Email Here (Free): https://camp.beehiiv.com/TIMESTAMP: 0:00 Camp Drip Is Now LIVE1:08 What Is Hinduism?6:04 Karma In Hinduism14:33 Collective Karma 17:02 Dharma In Hinduism + Cows Dharmic Duty 23:03 Reincarnation In Hinduism +Time Isn’t Linear32:58 Vaishnavism + Avatars of Vishnu39:14 Shaivism + Shiva Worshippers44:22 Lingayat Shaivism47:18 Aghoris Shaivism50:34 Shaktism + Tantra Shaktism56:19 Smartism1:00:25 What Denomination Are You?

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Today we're going to be discussing all the different sects of Hinduism. Hinduism is not a single religion, but a vast spiritual ecosystem of countless paths, each offering a different way to understand the universe. Time isn't necessary linear in Hindu reincarnation philosophy. Some traditions suggest that rebirth doesn't just move forward, it can move sideways, backwards, or even drop you into another timeline entirely. Vishnu is a big deal. He's a divine figure who steps in when the universe is teetering on the edge of chaos.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Shiva, the god of destruction. He's both a figure of peace, but also immense power. His weapon of choice, a trident. Hindu karma is a long game. Your actions today might not catch up with you until your next lifetime. Some people worship Vishnu. Some worship Shiva. Some worship goddesses.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Some worship everything. And even some worship nothing at all. And guess what? They're all Hindu. So let's get into the details. All right, Hinduism, the open world RPG of religions, the ultimate role player game. What's up, people? And welcome back to Kevindu.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Camp. That's right. This is not just regular camp. This is religion camp. This is the place where we explore the most interesting, fascinating, and controversial stories of all religions from around the world. Today I'm joined by my friend and producer Christos, the Greek freak. You don't get to see him, but just know that he's 6'5, chiseled, jacked, horny. Full head of hair. Full head of hair. He's a great guy. And also, I'm wearing brand new Camp Goods. Clothing? Hat? It's not merch. That's for damn sure.
Starting point is 00:01:42 It's not merch. It's a brand new brand, the greatest brand in outerwear, trailware, all that stuff. You can copy it at Campgoids. We probably have to change that name soon because we're going to get sued. But regardless, today I just want to say hello and namaste to all my Hindu brethren, all the brown boys out there. Not exclusively brown, but I've yet to meet like a white Hindu outside of maybe like one of Akash sings, stand-up clips.
Starting point is 00:02:08 You'll see a couple white Hindus in there. But that's basically it, all right, predominantly the brown boys. And today we're going to be discussing all the different sects of Hinduism. This is a new topic to me. I'll be honest with you. Again, I'm not Hindu. I didn't grow up Hindu. I have long hair.
Starting point is 00:02:26 So maybe I'm more Punjabi than anything. Maybe I'm sick. But that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about Hinduism. All right? So this is a topic and some research that came to me from my friend Zach, my good old buddy, Zach, put this together. So I'm going to be learning and reading along with you guys. Okay? So I'm going to be Googling stuff. And to all my Hindu brothers, I'm probably going to
Starting point is 00:02:48 get some of this wrong. So please comment and let me know what I missed. But let's begin. All right. When you think of Hinduism, what do you think? Christos, what are you thinking of right now? Go. Elephants. You racist motherfucker. God, Lee, I hate, ugh. Why can't you just have a pure mind and be open-minded about other religions from around the world, okay? Sacred cows. It's even worse I cannot believe I'm sorry guys for Christos he's not normally like this
Starting point is 00:03:14 I think of the Kama Sutra a guy making food with his feet yoga is that worse that's worse alright well I think of a lot of things I think of chicken tika masala sometimes I think of like a
Starting point is 00:03:28 blue guy playing a flute but there's a lot more to Hinduism than just that yeah that's like saying like Christianity is just about Christmas and chick fillet or something, you know? It's not. It's more than just, you know, some feel-good philosophy or lifestyle choice.
Starting point is 00:03:46 In the West, I think a lot of white people in the West kind of co-opt Hinduism and make it mean different things. But Hinduism has a long, deep, deep history. Shout to all the Hindus out there, by the way, that have basically figured out cosmology. I had no idea that in, like, you know, the Vedas or the Bhagvangitha that y'all basically figured out space travel and stuff. But, again, topic for a different video. Hinduism is not a single religion And it doesn't have a single founder Or you know one specific doctrine or one set of rules
Starting point is 00:04:15 It's a little different right So like Christianity has you know the Bible Islam has the Hadiths and the Quran Okay but Hinduism is a little a little broader Okay it's also much older than than both of those You gotta think Hinduism is like like an open world like RPG Maybe that's a good way to put it It's basically like GTA in a way
Starting point is 00:04:36 where a bunch of people have their own paths. They have their own lore that just kind of keeps expanding over thousands of years. And Hinduism's lore, oh, it goes deep. We're talking about cosmic battles, sages who have the power to curse people into oblivion, celestial beings who perform interdimensional travel like Alex Jones has been talking about. So let's get into the details, all right, Hinduism, the open world RPG of religions, the ultimate role player game, all right? like I said, unlike a lot of religions have like a,
Starting point is 00:05:07 this is the way, quote unquote, doctrine. All right. Hinduism is a buffet of beliefs and all you can eat, so to speak. You don't have to follow necessarily one God, one path, or even one sacred book. Instead, it's a massive interconnected web of ideas, traditions, and philosophies that somehow still fall under one giant religious umbrella.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Okay? Imagine if a show never said, okay, guys, this is canon and just let every fan theory have its own spin-off franchise, that's kind of Hinduism. Okay? Some people worship Vishnu. Some worship Shiva. Some worship goddesses. Some worship everything. And even some worship nothing at all. And guess what? They're all Hindu. It's kind of nice, right? Like, I feel like I might be Hindu at this point. It seems broad enough. Hindus, correct me if I'm wrong here. I don't know. This seems
Starting point is 00:05:58 pretty nice so far. The Hindus have been trying to recruit me for a long time, and this is a good sales pitch, right? Four thousand-year-old spiritual ecosystem where multiple denominations evolved, fought for dominance, merge, split, and then somehow agreed in three major concepts. That's right, under all these umbrellas that we're going to talk about, there's three major things that stick out. Karma, Dharma, and reincarnation. So what are those? Karma. Like I said, if Hinduism was a video game, karma would be the inescapable consequence of your player's actions. And yeah, you know, every move you make, Every action. It's all being logged into the great cosmic ledger. But how does karma play out across the different Hindu sects?
Starting point is 00:06:40 Well, this is where things get a little bit interesting. So karma is the backbone of Hinduism, but different denominations, whether you're Shivaism or Vishnavism. Vishnavism. I don't want to be disrespectful to the Vishnuites. Shaktism or smartism, which smartism is the most Indian one. Right? Like what Indian doesn't want to be like, I'm the smart one. But those are some different sex, and they all have their own different spin on how karma works. So, for example, the Shivaites who worship Shiva as the ultimate reality often view karma as this unavoidable force that can only be transcended through spiritual discipline and renunciation. They believe Shiva, the cosmic destroyer, also serves as a purifier, meaning your karmic baggage can be burned away through deep meditation and asceticism.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Aceticism. I always miss that word up. Asseticism. I don't even know what it means. To live an ascetic lifestyle. It's basically like to renounce all things of the earth. Like to almost like it's almost like stoicism, you could say. Like you just get rid of all your worldly belongings, but even more so like your desires.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Like you just live a perfectly sort of like monks would be ascetic. Buddhism. Buddhism type shit. Not that they're the same. Not that they're. Good golly. You're going to get us killed by a Buddhist extremist. Essentially, if karma is this inescapable cycle of cause and effect,
Starting point is 00:08:05 Shiva is the cosmic admin who basically can reset your debt if you're worthy. Imagine this. You're 30 feet underground digging through frozen earth with spoons and mess hall plates. Nazi guards patrol overhead. One wrong move, one loose pebble, and it's over. But on this night and night. 1944, 76 Allied prisoners would attempt the impossible, tunneling their way to freedom in the largest prisoner of war escape of World War II. And centuries earlier, in a cold stone chamber, a teenage girl in armor stood before her accusers, her crime, leading armies speaking to angels and daring to challenge the most powerful men in Europe.
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Starting point is 00:11:30 They see karma as deeply intertwined with Bhakti, or the devotion to Vishnu and his avatars, who we will get to in a second. According to Vishnavism, karma isn't just about cause and effect. It's about grace. Worshiping Vishnu and surrendering oneself to his will can accelerate karmic liberation.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Think of this is like having an inside connect to like the CEO of the universe, If you're devoted enough, you just might get like a little cosmic pardon. The Vishnuvites emphasize that love and devotion can override karma's bureaucratic red tape. It kind of sounds like Jesus. As a matter of fact, as we're kind of going through this. Meaning you don't necessarily have to grind lifetimes of good deeds if you have a deep faith in Vishnu. Now, Shaktism, which revolves around the worship of the divine mother,
Starting point is 00:12:17 views karma through a lens of divine power and justice. In this tradition, karma isn't just some neutral force. actively governed by the goddess herself. Worshippers believe that karma can be reshaped or even mitigated through rituals, devotion, and seeking the goddess's intervention. Essentially, if you accumulate bad karma, you better hope that the divine mother is feeling merciful. And then there's smartism. This is a more philosophical and all-inclusive approach that considers all major deities as manifestations of one supreme reality, the Brahman. Smartists take a more, uh, how could I say? Adveda Vedanta, approach. That's what I would call it. This essentially argues that karma and material worlds
Starting point is 00:12:59 in and of themselves are a part of this illusion known as Maya. The ultimate goal isn't just good karma. It's realizing that karma reincarnation and even individual identity are all constructs of the mind. The only way out, attain self-realization and recognize that you were never truly bound by karma in the first place. Basically finding out that all these side quests and stuff in the game was just for nothing and that it's all really about waking up. It's not even about beating the game. It's just realizing that there's a game that you're playing in the first place. So despite all these variations, all the Hindu sects agree that one thing is true.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Karma is real and don't forget it. Unlike the modern, you know, like instant karma memes where, you know, someone cuts in line and then, you know, like they get punched in the face or like they drop their coffee or something, Hindu karma is a long game. your actions today might not catch up with you until your next lifetime, which is extremely unsatisfying. Right? Like, I want the guy that, like, cuts me off in traffic. I just immediately, just their car just, just ditties themselves.
Starting point is 00:14:04 You know what I mean? Just like explodes. Not like gay, but like, you know how you put a bomb in Kid Cutty's car? Allegedly. Allegedly. Okay. Now we got Buddhist extremists and Diddy coming after us? This is all alleged.
Starting point is 00:14:15 But if someone does cut me off, I want instant karma. I don't like to see. I don't want him to get punished when. 20 years when they're, or 20 lifetimes when they're like a butterfly. Instant gratification. Exactly. But again, that's not the purpose of Hinduism. It's not instant gratification.
Starting point is 00:14:29 It's accepting that we're in a video game and to enlighten myself regardless. There's also this idea known as collective karma. This is another fascinating concept found across traditions. And it's not just individuals who rack up karma, but families, communities, and even nations generate collective, carmic energy. That's honestly fascinating. I feel like that explains a lot of like Hindu life. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:14:52 Like all my Hindu friends, maybe this is like, I don't know, like a Western American bias, but like you have so many like Indian immigrants that come over and there's so much pressure to like do honor for your family, become like a doctor, like do something noble.
Starting point is 00:15:07 And obviously like immigrants want to be successful. Like that's like a thing. But even I wonder if that happens even in India. Like I feel like there's like a like a nobility where like you want to like prove your family you know, like you want to do something honorable for your family. And I wonder if it's subconsciously connected to this karmic tradition across family lines. Pretty interesting.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Kind of like being on a team. Yeah, basically, right? What are you doing, dude? We're all going down with you. Yeah, exactly. I strike out, but my sister's like, you know, Mother Teresa. I'm like, whew. According to Hindu philosophy, mass actions over centuries can influence the entire fate of
Starting point is 00:15:40 societies. This is generational karma, the spiritual equivalent of like, inheriting your great-great-grandfather's bad investments. I'm going to say, I like, Christianity has a pretty good take on this. Like, oh, you can't punish the child for the sins of the father. But in Hinduism, it's like, yo, you better live a good life or else your kid's going to deal with your bullshit. So maybe that's actually good also. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Then there's also karma yoga, which, again, take yoga out of it. But this is basically action without attachment to the results, popularized by Krishna in the Bhagwavid Gita. Karma yoga teaches that the best way to deal with karma is to act with righteousness while remaining detached from personal gain. It's like playing the game of life with a total focus, but zero ego. So you put in the work, but you don't obsess over the scoreboard and ironically by not obsessing over the outcome is how you win the game. That's kind of nice. It's like a very like Rick Rubin approach. It's like, hey, just make stuff and put it out. Don't worry about the outcome. Like just have fun playing. So what's the takeaway? Hinduism is many to
Starting point is 00:16:44 All the nominations all agree that karma is the cosmic justice system that keeps everything in check, but they each offer unique strategies with dealing with it. So whether you're seeking Shiva's liberation, Vishnu's grace, the goddess's intervention, or maybe just a philosophical escape. One thing's for sure. Karma is always adding up. And that brings us to the next thing. Dharma, what is that?
Starting point is 00:17:05 Sticking with this video game kind of comparison. Dharma would be your class, the main storyline, the quest progression, all rolled into like one thing. It's not just about what you want to do. It's doing what you were designed to do. And no, that doesn't mean you're stuck playing a character you hate. Think of it more like, I don't know. Did you play Skyrim?
Starting point is 00:17:28 I love Skyrim. How is it Cajit? Okay. But you can think of like the Dragonborn from Skyrim. So whether you were born to be a warrior, a scholar, or even a cow, you are a part in this sort of cosmic video game. You have a part to play. Trees need to be trees. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:17:45 They need to be doing tree stuff. Squirrels need to be doing squirrel stuff. And that is your Darmic duty. At its core, Dharma is duty, but it's duty with nuance. It's like the glue holding Hindu society ethics and the entire cosmic order together. It's what tells a soldier to pick up a sword, teacher to educate, monks to monk it up or whatever. It's why the Bhagamgita has Krishna telling Arjuna to stop whining and to get back to the battlefield, because fighting was Arjuna's Dharma as a warrior.
Starting point is 00:18:14 You don't get to just re-roll mid-game because you don't like your setup, all right? You have a duty according to your Darmic path. You just want to contribute it, Chris says? You're looking very skeptical. It sounds like fate. It's kind of like fate, but fate is something you can't control. Fate is just like, this is happening to me, and I have no agency to change it. Rather, Dharma is like, you have a purpose.
Starting point is 00:18:39 you have a mission in life. You are born with some type of duty. And perhaps you can choose that duty. Perhaps for you, that duty might be being a DJ. And you need to go out there and just live your Darmic duty to start just dropping beats. But instead, you're in here with me, like an idiot. Me and Blondish. Exactly, dude.
Starting point is 00:18:59 But it also gets a little bit more complicated, okay? There's not just one type of Dharma. You've got your personal duty, the Svaddharma, your social duty, the Varna Dharma, The universal duty, the Sanatana Dharma, and even your life stage duty, Ashrama Dharma. That's Dharma and Greg. Ashrama Dharma, that is awesome. I feel like I've met that guy.
Starting point is 00:19:23 That guy dropped me off on 34th Street. And this isn't just like a one-size-fits-all philosophy. It's multi-layered, you know, kind of like a choose-your-own destiny framework where every aspect of your existence has its own kind of rules. Dharma also evolves, right? A child's Dharma isn't the same. same as an old guy's Dharma. When you're young, your duty might be to learn, absorb knowledge, be kind, share. But as you grow, your responsibility shift to work, provide, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:47 you become a father, take care of your children. And the stages of life provide a roadmap for fulfilling Dharma at every stage of existence. Essentially, if life hands you different quests, you've got to level up. And let's not forget, Dharma isn't just about the individual duty. It's also social balance. Hindu society has long been structured around the concept of Varna or social class, which dictates certain responsibilities. While, you know, a little controversial, you could say, in modern context, the idea originally revolved around the notion that everyone has a role to play in maintaining cosmic order. The king's Dharma is to do kingship. The merchant's Dharma is to sustain trade, and a laborer's Dharma is to provide essential services, and Chrysosos's
Starting point is 00:20:30 Dharma is just a Biskrylix. It's a system designed for balance, but like any human institution, there's going to be, you know, some exploitation that goes along with it. Now, just as like a kind of a sidebar, let's discuss cows. I want to do a whole different episode about this because a lot of people think that just because you're Hindu, it means like you worship cows or something, which is not true, okay? Some love a good cow. You know what I mean? If you go to India, you'll see specific sex. Sects.
Starting point is 00:20:59 C-T-S. I don't want to get demotized. You'll see some specific sex. the Kama Sutra, shout out to y'all. No, you'll see some specific subsets of Hinduism being very reverent to, you know, like a bull or to like a heifer. But that's not all. So if you think the reverence for cows in Hinduism is just about not eating beef, you got to think bigger. The Darmic worldview, every being has a place in cows seen as nurturing, life-giving creatures.
Starting point is 00:21:25 They embody this selfless service and abundance. They're basically, you know, kind of NPCs, non-playable characters, handing out side quests in the form of milk, fertilizer, labor, and they do their Dharma by existing in harmony with nature. Hinduism places an enormous emphasis on interconnectedness, and the cow is the symbol of that harmony. So you can't just be, you know, lopping their heads off. It'd be rude. The fascinating thing about Dharma is that it's not all about personal ambition. You don't get to wake up one day and decide you'd rather, you know, be a king than a farmer.
Starting point is 00:21:56 That doesn't mean that there's no freedom. Rather, it means that the freedom comes from how well you perform within your role. You play your part right, contribute to the greater harmony of existence, and that's great, and try to opt out, and well, is where things kind of fall apart a little bit. So, does Dharma ever end? Great question, Christos. Some people say yes. Within some sex of Hinduism, they argue that Dharma itself is transient, and that the ultimate Dharma is to seek Mokshah. This is liberation.
Starting point is 00:22:28 This is to break free from the cycle of rebirth. the Adveda Vedanta, what I was talking about before, would say that Dharma is necessarily only as long as you believe in the illusion of the self. Once you realize that all of existence is Brahman, the ultimate reality, the ultimate creator, Dharma dissolves, and so does the need for worldly roles. So Dharma isn't just like a set of rules. It is the fabric of the universe, right? Planets got to be doing planet stuff. Aliens got to be aliens. Like there is an order to the universe, and that is what we all exist within.
Starting point is 00:22:59 this silent force that keeps everything in this perfect balance. Now that brings us to reincarnation. This is obviously going to be big for Hindus. If you don't know anything about Hinduism, you think about Hinduism. You probably think about reincarnation in some capacity. I actually did a whole episode on kids with past lives with my friend Shubb, a great Hindu. And also with Miles. It's got a fuck Miles in the chat, by the way, while we're here.
Starting point is 00:23:22 So reincarnation is, again, if we're doing video game vibes, you get to play again. you get to respawn. But the new conditions are based on your past performance. So in Hinduism, existence isn't just a one and done deal. It's an ongoing cycle of birth, death, and rebirth. This concept within Hinduism is known as samsara. Every action, every choice, and every moral decision carries over to your next play-through. You screw up in this life, no problem.
Starting point is 00:23:48 You get to try again. But here's a twist. You're going to be a cockroach. Oops. But maybe that's great because maybe there's going to be a nuclear war and then you survive and now you get to try it again. Now guess what? Now you're Chinese. Not that that's in the order of anything, but maybe you come back as a Chinese guy and maybe you're living life as a Chinese dude and then you die. You come back, you know, as a different type of person.
Starting point is 00:24:14 I'm not going to say one is better than I'm just saying you get to come back, okay? And who knows what you get to come back as? And maybe you get little memories of your past life. I have a friend that did a past life regression, Alex Media. He did a past life regression. Realize back in his past life, he was a white guy. And now he's a black dude. No comment on that. Maybe he lived a great life as a white guy. And Brahma was like, hey, guess what?
Starting point is 00:24:39 Now you're going to be able to dunk. That's pretty sick. Upgrade. That's an upgrade, I would say. Hey, you get to be funny. You get to say all the words. That's pretty cool. Just saying, reincarnation isn't just about getting another shot.
Starting point is 00:24:53 It's about progression or regression based on your karma or your Dharma. If you're active good karma, congrats. You get to be reborn to a slightly higher social standing, a life of wisdom, maybe you get to be a sage.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Maybe you get to be I don't know, Keanu Reeves. I'd kill for that. Actually, that would be... No, if you kill for it, then you got to go back. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:25:15 You got to be Bill Cosby. Oh. Not, well, he had a good run. He had a good run. And also, he's acquitted, I think. He's free. Maybe, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:25 I don't know what that means legally. Now his eyes are all weird So I don't know No, what happened to his eyes? You haven't seen his eyes? No Oh Let's get Bill Cosby's eyes
Starting point is 00:25:33 He looks old Glock home lit up No, really? Yeah Yeah, someone get that guy Jay real quick Looks like a skin walker No Let me look
Starting point is 00:25:41 Oh Oh yeah No, he's He's going through it a little bit He must have just been Poking people in the eyes In his past life Oof
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Starting point is 00:26:25 Jacques de Mollet, last leader of the Knights Templar, utters a curse so chilling that when both the French king and Pope die within the year, whispers of dark prophecy spread across Europe. Now, these aren't crazy conspiracy theories or something you read and, you know, some fan fiction. These are real historical events you'll discover in today and history, the newsletter that enc covers the strange, shocking, and sublime moments that shape our world. Get your daily dose of mind-bending history, scan the QR code, or click the link below to join today's history. So, again, you get to kind of just level up or level down.
Starting point is 00:27:05 It's all based off of how you live this life. And if you live perfectly, then you get to escape. You know what I mean? In hidden new cosmology, the universe doesn't just dish out arbitrary punishments. It gives you exactly what your past actions warrant. So your next form is reflection of your past deeds, making this the most unforgiving but fair progression system. ever designed. And this is where it gets crazier. Time isn't necessary linear in Hindu reincarnation philosophy. Think about that. God exists outside of time. So some traditions
Starting point is 00:27:34 suggest that rebirth doesn't just move forward. It can move sideways, backwards, or even drop you into another timeline entirely. That's crazy. Think about that. You live a great life and you get to go back and be like some medieval king. But I feel like that'd be worse. Actually, no. I think I guess it depends. If you live, like, if you have like a terrible life here, terrible, right? Think like you just are living and it's like there's war everywhere, but you live a good life. I feel like being a medieval king would be better. But imagine you're having past life thoughts from a life that's in the future.
Starting point is 00:28:11 You don't have past life thoughts. Some people, allegedly. Alex Media, right? Some people, I mean, all these kids that have past life regressions. That's crazy to think you might have past life thoughts. I wonder if sometimes that's what deja vu is. Someone looking at that. I'm on it.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Okay. Yeah, I guess that's what we're here for. But anyway, it's crazy. Yeah. If you exist outside of time, time's not linear, you could go back forth or even into a different dimension all together. That's awesome. Imagine being reborn in the 1600s because your karmic tab says you got to, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:40 you did good or bad. Maybe you do bad now and then you got to go back all the way. That would be crazy. So that basically means your past self could be walking around right now in another timeline. Trying to make better choice. than the ones that you did. I wonder if your past self could be alive right now. Oh, that'd be sick.
Starting point is 00:29:00 That's correct. But if you've got to think, like, or maybe your future path? All right, we're getting everywhere, everywhere all at once. Think about this, though. Astrophysicists are trying to figure out time travel. Reincarnation's already got it. Hindu's already figured out. See, just leave it to the Indians, bro.
Starting point is 00:29:14 They're on it. They're so smart. They're already going to space. They don't even need to go to space because they already know what's going on. Right. But now these astrophysicists have to go there because they're like, how it's my Darmic duty. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:29:25 I have to achieve samsara, so I have to continue, you know, doing astrophysics, because that's what I'm designed to do. So then we have these liberated beings. What is that? This is a soul who's broken free from the reincarnation cycle,
Starting point is 00:29:38 but they voluntarily return to guide others. That's awesome. You're like a little Sherpa. Some traditions recognize them as gurus, enlightened masters, divine avatars, who choose to reincarnate again solely for the benefit of humanity. Hinduism is full of these guys, right?
Starting point is 00:29:53 it, Adi Shankaracharya. That guy, do you know who that is? Nope. Christos, you don't know anything. I'll educate you. He was a good guy. He was known as an enlightened being or a liberated being.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Regardless. Supposedly, according to Hindu philosophy, they've come back. They've escaped this sort of karmic, darmic rat race. They're done reincarnating. They could just go to Nirvana, but instead they come to help humanity. So shout out to them. So what about continuity, right? Do you carry over skills, personality traits, memories?
Starting point is 00:30:25 Any of that stuff? Great question, Christos. The jury is still out. Not everyone really knows. Some schools of thoughts suggest that reincarnation wipes the slate clean, leaving you with no recollections of past mistakes or triumphs. Others argue that, you may not have direct memories, past life experiences, but these experiences might subtly shape your personality fears and affinities in your new life.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Think about that. Maybe you die drowning in your past life and your future life. You're afraid of water. Who knows? Ever have an inexplicable attraction to a certain culture, skill, or time period? You're a white guy that wants cornrows? Maybe you're a black dude. That's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:31:05 See, we're all connected, man. Remember that. That could be your soul's way of hinting at its past incarnations. Ever feel irrationally afraid of something? There you go. And then there's Mokshah. That's the end game. The ultimate goal isn't just another better life.
Starting point is 00:31:20 It's to transcend the cycle altogether. Moksha is the equivalent of breaking free from the matrix, dissolving the ego and merging with the divine. No more, you know, karma, no more grinding, just blissful liberation from existence itself. Different sex offer different routes to Moksha. They say it's achieved through, you know, pure devotion, Bhakti, right? Remember that word? Others through discipline or knowledge, Janana. Janana.
Starting point is 00:31:51 I think that's how you pronounce. No, I'm sorry, Hindus. Correct me. I think that's, I think it's Janana. I feel like it'd be silent to J. So it's just Nana? Possibly. Nana. Janana. Others through selfist action, selfless action. This is like the karma yoga thing we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:32:09 But no matter the path, one thing remains the same. Once you hit Moksha, you're out of the cycle for good. Now you're just living in divine communication with the ultimate creator. Now, not everyone is aiming for Moksha right away. Some people are focused on leveling up in the material. world playing out their karmic debts, stacking up good deeds to ensure a more comfortable, you know, next incarnation. And this is why Hinduism accommodates a range of spiritual goals. Most other religions, it's like, die, go see God. But in Hinduism, it's like, die, try again, a little better, a little worse, da-da-da, and then, moksha. So just to recap,
Starting point is 00:32:43 Hinduism basically, you know, believes across all, you know, sex that your actions affect your future lives. And the goal is to eventually level up and get. get to, you know, God to your enlightenment, right? Pretty simple. But this is where it gets complicated. So, again, we went through the three main things, right? You got karma, Dharma, reincarnation. But now someone said to you like, oh, you're a Christian, so you must be the exact same
Starting point is 00:33:08 as every other Christian. You'd be like, well, you know, we have Catholicism, we have Protestantism, we have Eastern Orthodox, Southern Baptist, Mormons, which some people don't even include. I like Mormons for the record. Shout out to Mormons. I think all are cool. You've got some crazy stuff in that. book, though. But I'm cool with you all. So let's get into the four main branches, all right?
Starting point is 00:33:27 You got karma, Dharma, reincarnation. Everyone kind of agrees with that, but they do not agree on some of the other stuff, all right? So if you ever wonder why like some Hindus worship while others are obsessed with Shiva or some just are deep into the goddess worship, while others just sort of meditate on universal oneness, well, now you know, Hinduism is not a single religion, but a vast spiritual ecosystem of countless paths, each offering a different way to understand the universe. So, let's start with Vishnavism. In Hinduism, Vishnu would be the undisputed prom king, right? People love Vishnu. So Vishnavites would be the most dedicated fan club. But we're not talking about just some casual appreciation. All right, this is full-blown,
Starting point is 00:34:11 all-in, lifelong devotion to the God of Preservation Order and Cosmic Balance. Vishnu is a big deal. He's a divine figure who steps in when the universe is teetering on the edge of chaos, restoring order and ensuring the cosmos don't just explode like Armageddon or something. His role is to preserve Dharma while making sure the whole system doesn't just collapse in on itself, right? So depicted with four arms, you know, here's a picture. You can see, very efficient. He's got a conch, a conch, a conch shell. Conch show. I always miss something.
Starting point is 00:34:45 I always want to say conch shell. But it's not. A discus, a lotus, and a mace, each symbolizing different aspects of cosmic power. Vishnu doesn't just show up in his original form. Sometimes he sends an avatar, an incarnation. That's similar to that other word, reincarnation. He sends an avatar to handle things in the mortal realm. Think of these avatars as different versions of Vishnu, each tailored for a specific mission.
Starting point is 00:35:10 So some of the very famous ones, obviously Krishna, Rama, Narasimha, Vamanah, and Kalki. Calke, we actually covered in Hindu eschatology. This is an episode I did with my friend Joey Avery going through all the end-time stories. And Calke, as we've said before, is an incarnation of Vishnu that's going to come and bring in the end of this yug. Krishna, often regarded as Hinduism's rock star, he's charming, mischievous, and very wise. He delivers the Bhagwan Gita and the life-changing wisdom with it while also stealing butter and charming everybody in sight. Rama, on the other hand, is the epitome. of honor, duty, and a perfect ruler.
Starting point is 00:35:50 If Krishna is like the lead singer, Rama, is like the older brother who never misses a show. He's just always fighting for you, you know? And then you got Narasima. Narasima. I like that. That's a half-lion, half-man and represents Vishnu when he's going beast, when diplomacy isn't an option. And then Vamana, that might be the coolest one. This is an avatar who's based like a dwarf.
Starting point is 00:36:15 pretty cool outsmart's like a demon king reclaims the universe in a couple steps because why fight when you can outsmart right very Indian then there's calchi this is one I talked about before this is Vishnu's yet to arrive apocalyptic avatar
Starting point is 00:36:31 who's prophesied to ride in on a white horse and bring an end to the current age of darkness and corruption Vishnivism is deeply rooted in Bhakti this is this concept that means the absolute devotion to Vishnu if other branches of Hinduism lean into philosophy or meditation.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Vishnuvites take a different approach. Forget all that, you know, just love God and everything and da-da-da-da. Bhakti is highly emotional and personal. Songs, prayers, festivals, temples, all these kind of rituals are all centered around feeling Vishnu's presence. This is why Vishnuvism is often compared to like evangelical Christianity. It's like very charismatic. There's a deep devotion, a passionate worship,
Starting point is 00:37:12 and a strong emphasis on personal connection with the divine. Now, again, Vishnavism, just like evangelical Christianity, is not a monolith. Within it, there are subgroups that interpret Vishnu's worship in their own unique ways. Sri Vishnavism focuses on Vishnu and his consort Lakshmi as the ultimate divine duo. And then there's Gadiyya Vishnivism known for inspiring the Hari Krishna movement, which if you're familiar with psychedelic rock in the 60s and 70s, which is very influential. They took over like college campuses and stuff. And this centers on Krishna worship and the constant chanting of his name as the
Starting point is 00:37:45 highest spiritual practice. And then there's Pushdimargh, and this is a more relaxed approach. This is emphasizing love, grace over, you know, the super, super strict ritual observance that some of these other sects have. And then you've got the Madhva tradition, which takes like a more hardline monotheistic stance asserting that Vishnu is the only God that matters with no room for alternative interpretations. And then, yeah, Vishnivism plays a significant role in Hinduism, as it is the largest sect,
Starting point is 00:38:12 meaning that if you meet a Hindu, there's a good chance that they're a Vishnavite. Many of Hinduism's most well-known stories, festivals, and a lot of their traditions come from Vishnavite texts. Celebrations like Davali or Holy are closely tied to Vishnu's avatars with Rama's return being the central story of Davali and Krishna's colorful antics, inspiring holy. The teachings of Krishna, especially in the Bhagavankita, have influenced millions of people worldwide, not just Hindus, but very, very many spiritual seekers from different backgrounds. So, Vishnavism keeps Hinduism's devotional aspect alive and thriving, ensuring that. that divine love remains at the heart of religious life. But what if you're not into a god who acts like this cosmic father figure? What if you are a Hindu, but you prefer a deity that's more about destruction, chaos, the limp biscuit of Hinduism, all right?
Starting point is 00:39:02 Bound out. I mean, that limp biscuit performance, Woodstock 9 and I, you've seen that? It's unbelievable. Break stuff? It goes crazy. to break. So if that's your vibe, then maybe a Shivaism. That's the one for you. It's one of the major denominations of Hinduism centered around the worship of Shiva, the god of destruction. But don't let the title fool you. This isn't just a mindless devastation and doom.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Shiva is the destroyer in a far deeper, more philosophical sense. His destruction is about breaking down illusions, shattering the ego, dissolving attachments that prevent spiritual enlightenment. So, Shivites believe that by embracing Shiva's wisdom and renouncing worldly distractions, they can transcend the material world and reach ultimate liberation, which again, Moksha. This goes for this sect as well. Moksha, this is again the highest goal of the Shivites spiritual journey. This is where the soul merges with the divine and is freed from the cycle of rebirth. Other Hindu sects to focus on grand temples and elaborate rituals, Shivites tend to be more strict and meditative in their approach to spirituality. These are,
Starting point is 00:40:13 are hardcore minimalist of Hinduism, yogis, ascetics, wandering monks who give up material wealth and comfort and pursuit of divine knowledge. Many Shivite practitioners retreat to the mountains or the forest to meditate in solitude, mirroring Shiva's own legendary lifestyle. He's often depicted sitting in deep meditation at top, what is it, Mount Kalash, far from the concerns of mortal life. It is believed that those who successfully attain a deep state of meditation aligned with Shiva can access this heightened awareness beyond ordinary perception. Perhaps the most interesting and fascinating aspects of Shiva is the paradoxical nature that this deity ascertains.
Starting point is 00:40:55 On one hand, he's the ultimate ascetic, an eternal meditating sage who exists outside of time and space. But on the other hand, he's wild and an unpredictable force of nature, you know, dancing in the form of Nataraja, the cosmic dancer, whose rhythmic movement symbolized a perpetual cycle of creation and destruction. His physical appearance reflects his duality. Let's take a look. Madded locks, ash-covered skin, a third eye that can incinerate anything with a single glance. Like Terminator, that's sick.
Starting point is 00:41:26 He's both a figure of peace, but also immense power. His weapon of choice. Yes, a trident representing the three fundamental aspects of existence. Creation, preservation, destruction. Down out. Shiva is also associated with the practices that push the, boundaries of conventional spirituality, often depicted with this kind of chill demeanor. You know, he resides in the icy Himalayas and is linked to the use of herbs, particularly
Starting point is 00:41:52 those associated with transcendental states of consciousness, aka drugs. Many Shivites, sometimes known as Sadhus or Holy Men, follow in this tradition, using meditation, aesthetic practices, and sometimes even psychoactive substances to deepen their connection to the divine. I just guess that, but turns out I'm right. The practice of renunciation where followers abandon all their material possessions and dedicate themselves entirely to these spiritual pursuits is highly regarded in Shivaism.
Starting point is 00:42:22 These people are known as San Yassiz, and they often smear their bodies with ash, symbolizing the impermanence of the material life and the burning away of worldly desires. Have you seen that video of the guy that goes in interviews, like this ascetic monk? It's crazy. Apparently this monk is like technically a cannibal.
Starting point is 00:42:40 and he's like covered in ash. It's awesome. We should get the video of it here, but it's awesome. But yeah, I'm assuming that guy is a shevite, a shevite. And yeah, he's big on Shiva. So again, these ashes showing death, destruction, rebirth, etc. The most religious traditions are about following the rules. So Advaita Shivaism is the one that figures out the loopholes.
Starting point is 00:43:07 So remember that term, we talked about earlier. This is a sect that isn't about bowing, begging, or suffering your way to enlightenment. It's about realizing that you already are enlightened. That's right. You, listening right now, this chaotic mess, you are technically divine, according to this specific sect, known as Kashmir Shivism, or followers of Advetah Shivism. You're already there. While the other branches of Hinduism are busy arguing over which God is the coolest, Advaeism just kind of chills,
Starting point is 00:43:40 sips on some chai. I'm just like, yeah, dude. It's you. You're already there. You are a God in your own right. You have God within you. That's right. You, your neighbor,
Starting point is 00:43:53 the annoying dog that shit's on your sidewalk, the email you've been avoiding, and even your terrible taste and TV, it's all just manifestations of Shiva, playing hide and seek with itself. This is like deep cut, I feel like, Hindu philosophy. I don't even really understand how all this plays out. If there's any Shivites listening to this, please correct me. Tell me what I'm missing on this part.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Like, is there a feeling of like asceticism? Is there a god within you? Am I off on that? I'd love to know. All right, let's go even more deep cut, a subculture within a subculture, all right? This is Lingayat Shivism. Now, if mainstream shivism is the wise old monk sitting in a Himalayan cave, the Lingyatheivism is the punk rock's teenager storming out of the temple. flipping, you know, the caste system, the bird, and declaring that spirituality doesn't need all this extra baggage. This sect isn't just another, you know, offshoot of Hinduism. It's this full-blown Reformation movement that looked at the rigid societal hierarchy and said, yeah, we're not doing that. Founded in the 12th century by this philosopher, Saint Basava, Lingiat Shivism, was less about following the rules and more about torching the ones that didn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Basava wasn't just another guru handing out cryptic wisdom. He was a full-on social reformer who saw the caste system, all these rituals and all these, you know, priestly privileges as outdated nonsense. Kind of sick, to be honest with you. His followers, the Lingyats, I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly. Correct me from wrong. Lingayats. The Lingayats. I like Lingayets.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Built a movement centered around direct devotion to Shiva and a complete rejection of the oppressive norms of traditional Hinduism. Now I feel like this is going to get controversial. Now, like a lot of Hinduism is tied to like the caste system, for example, Lingayats rejected entirely. They believe that devotion to Shiva is what matters. Not what family are born into or whether some Brahmin gave you divine approval. Unlike Shivaites who worship Shiva in various forms, Lingayats focus on Ishalinga, a personal representation of Shiva worn around the neck. It's not just jewelry, it's a portable deity, a direct hotline to the divine. And a constant reminder that spirituality isn't confined to temples,
Starting point is 00:46:03 or anything like that. What about the Vedic scriptures? What about that, huh? Lingayets toss it aside. They say, hey, we don't need it. Their teachings come from Vachanas, poetic verses that emphasize social justice, equality, and direct connection to God.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Well, all of Hindu sex love a good statue or some type of grand ritual, the Lingayats are all about simplicity. No temple worship, no animal sacrifices, just no nonsense connection to Shiva. Sounds pretty punk rock to me, to be honest with you. In modern India, Lingayat's continue to be a powerful socio-political force, particularly in Karnataka, where they make up a significant portion of the population. Their demand for official recognition as a distinct religion has sparked endless debates, and depending on who you ask, whether, you know, radical reformers or inconvenient troublemakers who refuse to blend into the larger Hindu umbrella.
Starting point is 00:46:55 I mean, that's pretty interesting. That's like Hinduism's countercultural movement, Lingayat Shivism. It challenges religious hierarchy and strips spirituality down to the rawest forms. Some people don't even technically recognize it as like a subset. Some people see it as like a complete, you know, separate, you know, religion in some capacities. It's pretty fascinating. Now, what about the agoris? So, Shivaism also contains agoris, who are basically the spiritual, like, you know, rock stars, I guess, of, like Hinduism.
Starting point is 00:47:29 And they're equal parts terrifying and fascinating. Oh, dude, I think this is, I think the agoris are the ones that are, those are like the, that's the one I was talking about before, the cannibal guy. I remember that now, the agoris. So, while some monks in Hinduism, you know, they're meditating in caves or whatever, the agoris are out there dunking themselves in cremation ashes. That's right. Drinking from skull cups called Kapala and throwing basically every societal norm out the window. because they believe that everything, life, death, purity, and even impurity is just Shiva. So the agoris, they will prey on cremation grounds because what better way to conquer, you know, the fear of death than to cover yourself in it.
Starting point is 00:48:15 It's interesting. Again, we listen and we don't judge. They're covered in ashes of the dead and seed decay is just another illusion. Some even take it further and practice Shava Sadhana. This is meditation on top of a literal. corpse because nothing screams spiritual growth like, you know, a dead body is a yoga mat. The goal is to remove past fear, attachment, and petty concerns of polite society. It's pretty hardcore. The agorries, those are real ones, dude. Some people have said that they're
Starting point is 00:48:45 cannibals, which is crazy. I mean, Indian food messes my stomach up sometimes. What about just an Indian? What do you think? Spicy? Get some heartburn. Probably if I had a guess. I don't know. I've I'm never eating an Indian. Also, your skin absorbs whatever you put on it. So technically you're eating. Oh, that's a good point. So you are absorbing it. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:49:07 And the agorries are pretty punk rock, all right? Actually, not even punk rock. Just regular rock. Alcohol, marijuana, other intoxicants, they're not just a good time. They're tools to break through the normal perceptions and touch something deeper. To them, altered states aren't distractions
Starting point is 00:49:23 but shortcuts to enlightenment that bypass the process of rational thought. So you might be a gory if you're listening to this. You like doing drugs, you know, clothing. You don't like it. Comfort, who cares? You know, a lot of agoris, they roam naked. Not like as a gimmick, but like as a symbol of complete detachment from society's norms.
Starting point is 00:49:45 You might, if you're listening to this right now and you're like, this sounds pretty cool, you might be an agorri. Look into it. Yeah. So agoris don't just worship Shiva. They like the alter ego, the bairava. In Shiva, if you could see Shiva as like, you know, the laid-back yogi on that mountain we were talking about, Bay Rava is the no-nonsense skull-wielding enforcer who means business. Bay Rava is associated with destruction and transcendence and grants Agori's supernatural abilities
Starting point is 00:50:14 that protects them from getting lost in their practices. I mean, that's pretty sweet, dude. Agoris are wild. All right, now we could sit here and talk about Shivaism all day. there's way more to discuss with this. So if you're a Shivite, I'm sorry if I'm, you know, moving on too quickly. But there's a lot. There's a lot to cover. Okay. So let's move on to Shaktism, all right? Shaktism, or if you're Shakti, this is not just, you know, another one of those random branches of Hinduism. This one is fascinating because it doesn't
Starting point is 00:50:44 just acknowledge female power, but outright worships it. That's right. For all you racists out there that think Hindus don't respect women, Shaqtis, they worship women, I think. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, if there's any Shaktis, listen to this. But, you know, imagine your male-dominated pantheons of gods. Shockdism is where the real energy is. By energy, we mean Shakti, this cosmic force that powers the entire universe. Because girls run the world. At its core, Shaktism revolves around the worship of Shakti, this divine feminine energy that manifests in a bunch of different badass goddesses.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Some of the most intense, inspiring deities belong to the sect, but they don't mess around. example, take Kali, okay? Terrifying, skull-wearing warrior mom who doesn't just slay demons but dances on their bodies, like an agorri. She's the kind of goddess who would show up in your nightmares, you know, and just start messing stuff up. And then there's Durga, the multi-armed powerhouse who rides a lion and carries an arsenal of weapons.
Starting point is 00:51:47 I mean, this girl is awesome. These goddesses aren't just here to give you a gentle blessing. They're here to remind you of who's really in charge, women. And then there's Lakshmi, the goddess of wealth and prosperity, who makes it clear that divine femininity isn't just about power, but also abundance, good fortune. And then there's the Saraswati, the goddess of wisdom, creativity and music. This is a cosmic scholar who makes sure that all intelligence gets its fair share of divine recognition. It's kind of nice. Shockdism.
Starting point is 00:52:18 It's got these badass women flying around, knocking people's heads off. And let the record show. Shaktism doesn't just do passive spirituality. So unlike other Hindu nominations that focus on the philosophical introspection or devotional love, Shaktism leans hard into tantra, a spiritual path that embraces both the physical and the metaphysical. So this is like rituals, meditations, and sometimes there's a thing that Westerners call tantric sex. Okay, before it's, you get all, you know, bricked up. Let's clarify.
Starting point is 00:52:49 It's not what you think. Tantra isn't just about stretching your end. It's about channeling divine energy and achieving spiritual enlightenment and breaking free from the illusions of reality. So, sorry if you're trying to catch a beat to this. All right, that's not what this is about, okay? Tantra and shaktism is highly ritualistic and deeply rooted in practices that merge the material in the spiritual worlds. Some different versions of shakdhism incorporate chanting, fire ceremonies, and meditation, while some engage more esoteric techniques designed to a awaken Kundalini energy, a dormant force to believe to reside at the base of the spine,
Starting point is 00:53:29 waiting to rise through the chakras to bring about spiritual awakening. The idea is that true liberation comes from not rejecting the world but fully engaging with it, understanding that divinity is present in all aspects of life, including, you know, the sensual. One of the most fascinating things about Shaktism is how it flips the traditional power structure on its head. So imagine most religions, they have this divine, masculine, central figure, and sometimes there's some women, you know, playing like a supporting role, but not in Shaqtism. Uh-uh.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Goddesses aren't just important. They are the main event. Male of God, you know, the dudes, the bros, like Shiva, they're depicted as completely powerless without Shakti. That's right. Without divine feminine energy, the universe itself would just sit there. Useless, inert, no abundance, nothing to bring forth life. Shiva himself is often seen as a meditative ascetic until awakened by Shakti's dynamic energy.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Without her, he is stillness without movement, potential, without action. Now, let's talk about worship, right? Shaktism isn't just about saying prayers and lighting incense. It's about full-on immersive devotion. Followers engage in elaborate festivals, vibrant rituals, and intense spiritual practices. So, some forms of Shaktism, specifically in like Bengal and Nepal, they involve a blood sacrifice. Apparently, I don't know. I'm just reading this for the first time.
Starting point is 00:54:53 That's wild. Is that true? Zach, I mean, we got to double check that. Yeah. Blood sacrifice. It's mostly symbolic. Mostly. But the point is clear.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Devotion to the goddess isn't just about words. It's about actions. Okay. So you got the Durga Puja is one of the biggest Hindu festivals dedicated to Shakti, where the entire cities light up. You got these giant idols that are worshipped in days of celebration, bringing communities together in a stunning display of devotion. Shaktism's influence stretches beyond the religious sphere,
Starting point is 00:55:25 deeply embedding itself in Indian cultural identity, feminism, spiritual philosophy. The empowerment of the divine feminine isn't just an abstract concept. It influences literature, politics, social movements. From ancient scriptures to modern empowerment narratives, Shakti remains a force to be reckoned with. I like that. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:55:45 I never knew that about some Hindus will actually worship Shakti. and the blood sacrifice is animal bullet Oh yeah I probably should have mentioned that Goats probably goats right It's not cows Definitely not cows Yeah Humans
Starting point is 00:56:01 Maybe the group that we were talking about before A Vishemite or an agorri The agorries Oh they could team up The shock these and the agoris They could be like hey we need a blood sacrifice The igorges are like we're trying to free ourselves From death and liberate
Starting point is 00:56:17 From the material world Now let's talk about smartism Okay? This is kind of like the all-encompassing version. You don't have to choose just one god. You can worship all of them. It's kind of a catch-all. So maybe if you're a little indecisive, you don't want to choose a side. Team Shiva, Vishnu, Shaktism is here to tell you, porque no los dos. This is Hinduism's all-inclusive, non-denominational greatest hits. Smartis believe that all gods are just different forms of the same divine source, meaning you don't have to pledge allegiance to one deity. You get the full bun Yeah. No Netflix, Hulu, no, cable. Smartism isn't about passionate, single-minded devotion to one God, right? Like Shivaism or Vishnuism. Instead, it's like this kind of intellectual cousin that steps back and he's like, bro, just look at the big picture, dude. It's about recognizing all the gods. Everything, Ganesh, Surya, Vishnu. It's all the same, man. It's all part of one ultimate reality known as Brahmin. In a way, smartism is Hinduism's answer to the it's all connected conspiracy theory, right? Except maybe like the Clintons or lizards or something. This makes smartism perfect for people who like their spirituality with a side of logic and the sprinkle of philosophical detachment.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Okay. Unlike more ritual heavy sex, right? Smartism leans into the Advaita Vedanta, which we mentioned earlier is a school of thought that says the ultimate goal to realize that everything, including you, is already a part of God, already a part of Brahman. You don't need to pick a deity and obsess over it. You just need to wake up and be like, oh, you're in a game, dude. Step out. The main practice of smartism is Nana yoga with a silent J still.
Starting point is 00:58:01 We don't know exactly. Someone correct me. Or this is what's known as the path of knowledge. This means that instead of spending hours performing rituals or chanting names, smartas sit back, contemplate existence, read upon some ancient scriptures, have a nice existential conversation. It sounds like what I do on this podcast, to be honest with you. But don't get it wrong.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Marta's they still worship, all right? It's just that the way that they do it is more relaxed, it's more flexible, you know? They typically recognize six major deities, some that we've already talked about. You got Vishnu, Shiva, Shakti, Ganesh, Surya, and Skanda. And if you want to worship one or the other, one over the others, go for it. If you want to mix and match, that's fine. The idea is that all of these gods are just different doorways to the same truth. Worship in smartism is usually less about this grand emotional devotion and more about a quiet reverence. They have strong traditions of setting up home altars, with idols, lighting some incense, offering some food, and then going about their day.
Starting point is 00:58:56 No pressure. No, oh, your God, my. It's just chill, open-minded. What makes smartism stand out is its adaptability, right? It's like an Indian Swiss Army knife. Flexible, multifunctional. Whether you're drawn to the ascetic, wisdom of Shiva, the disciplined devotion of Vishnu, the raw, feminine power of Shakti, smartism says, hey, nice, you get to do that.
Starting point is 00:59:21 But let's not forget, while smartism sounds like, you know, just your weed, smoke, and cousin, it's got deep intellectual roots. All right? Some of Hinduism's greatest thinkers and philosophers were smartas, including that guy we talked about before. Adi Shankaracharya, that guy. He essentially built the foundation of Edveda Vedanta. His teachings emphasize the unity of all deities under the concept of the Brahmin, making him one, if not the most influential spiritual minds in Hindu history. His philosophy basically boils down to one radical idea. Everything is one.
Starting point is 00:59:55 You, me, this tent, Christos is full head of hair, the universe. It's all just different manifestations of the same divine source. So if you've ever thought about picking a single path in a religion or maybe a single genre of music to listen to for the rest of your life, smartism could be the answer. It gives you the entire playlist. You get to shuffle through divine experiences at your own pace, kind of a cheesecake. factory, right? Oh, what do we get? Italian, French, hey, go to cheesecake factory. They got everything. So now you know all the major denominations. Which one are you going for? Are you a Shiva worshipping ascetic, a goddess revering warrior? I don't know, maybe a passionate Vishnu devotee.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Or maybe you're a smarta, right? Maybe you're a smartest taking the laid-back, all-inclusive approach. Christos, what do you think? Which one are you going to be? I'm a an ally, so I'm going with the Vishnu. Vishnuvites. Yes, because they believe in the females. That's the... Did you... Are you not listening?
Starting point is 01:01:01 It's the Shaktis that believe in... Ah, the Shaktis. You horny. You are... Chris has been on one Tinder date, and he's like, God, worship. One to half. The future's female, dude.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Nah. I mean, the Shaktis are cool. I respect that, but... Which one are you? The smartest is. seemed like the coolest to me. That sounds like you. Right?
Starting point is 01:01:23 It's just kind of open-minded. It's like, all right, let's just feel. Take a little bit of this, a little bit of that. Let's just kind of field everything, kind of see where everyone lies. Vishnivites have the coolest holidays, though. What are their holidays? That's holy, Diwali, like all the big ones. Most Hindus are Vishnavites.
Starting point is 01:01:41 But if you're smartism, you get to do all of those anyway. That's a good point. So, yeah, smartism. That's what I'm picking. But let me know if I'm wrong. Tell me, if there's Hindus, comment. let's keep it civil though you know we don't need to make a whole race war or something but let me know what do you think what is your tradition did you convert why did you pick the tradition you converted to
Starting point is 01:02:00 and uh yeah i'd love to know what y'all think i'm fascinated by hinduism i'm uh i find it very charming i like all my all my hindoo friends i find that they have like a real reverence uh and like an appreciation for the divine i think it's a very interesting faith and uh yeah i have a lot of respect for all the Hindus out there that are listening to this program. And there's also something to be said that like, you know, some, if not most, to my memory,
Starting point is 01:02:29 this is not even read down, Zach to do any research on this, are not polytheistic. Like a lot of people are like, oh, they're polytheistic, right? Are they pantheistic? You know, monotheistic, what are they? Depends on your tradition. Some see like,
Starting point is 01:02:47 Vishnu, Shiva, and Brahma, you know, like the creator, the preserver, the destroyer, as three versions, like some trinity of the ultimate god, the Brahman, and that there is one God. So there are a lot of Hindus that are actually monotheistic that just honor the Brahman, but then see three different versions of it in this trinity, kind of like Christians. So there's any Hindus out there listening, correct me on that also. But yeah, I appreciate you all for tuning in to another episode of camp, Religion Camp specifically. Let me know what you think of this episode.
Starting point is 01:03:22 If you're not Hindu, I'd be so curious to know what do you think about our Hindu brothers listening to it. If you are Hindu, I'd love to know what you think. Did I get any of this wrong? What did I miss? Correct me, please, because like I said, I am just a visitor in the space of Hindus. And I'd love to go to India one day and see it all up close, maybe for holy. I think that'd be kind of fun.
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