Camp Gagnon - Ex Cop Spills CRAZIEST Las Vegas Crime Secrets!

Episode Date: December 30, 2025

Former NYPD Transit Cop Tony Hernandez joins us in the tent to reveal the wildest crime stories hiding behind Las Vegas’ bright lights. From rental scams to human‑trafficking pipelines, rigged casino games, high‑roller secrets, and underground party worlds, Tony breaks down the side of Vegas most people never see...WELCOME TO CAMP! 🏕️Shoutout to our sponsors:Morgan & Morgan and BlueChew👕🧢 GET YOUR CAMP DRIP HERE: http://camp-rd.com🎟️ 🎫 Comedy Tour Tickets Here: https://markgagnonlive.com🎩👽 Daily Dose Of History Here: https://www.dailytodayinhistory.comTimestamps:0:00 The Toro Scam10:44 Facebook Marketplace Scam12:48 Human Trafficking Through Toro23:45 Vegas Underbelly Crimes27:44 Massage Parlor Trafficking Operations46:45 OF Girls Getting Rich53:15 High Rollers in Vegas1:00:09 NBA Gambling Scandal1:10:54 Rigged Casino Games1:12:10 NBA Poker Glasses1:14:07 Secret LA Diddy Parties#foryou #podcast #history #mystery #horror #interview #crime #knowledge #information #lasvegas

GPS is giving me like a signal like where the car is. And I see it like crossing border to Mexico. I'm like, what the fuck? He said, you know, these patterns are very similar with human smuggling. This is a fucking front for a prostitution house. That's all it is. They didn't threaten. They didn't do anything or whatever.

They sent her an envelope. And the envelope was her kid coming out of school. This is Tony Hernandez. He's a former New York City transit cop. And today he's going to break down the dark side of Las Vegas. We all know that Vegas sells you a fantasy. Bright lights, easy money, shows any night of life. a week, but beyond the strip, there's another city entirely.

And Tony Hernandez knows this world better than most. He was trained for years to spot crime in plain sight. And then he moved to Las Vegas and started a legitimate rental business. And then he became the victim of transit crime himself. Cars rented strip for parts used by the cartel to move people across borders. Today, he breaks down all the scams that make Las Vegas infamous, how the cartel will use car rental apps to move people and product across borders. He explained.

how the high-end escort business actually works and who the people are behind it. He breaks down how the illegal card games in Vegas's upper hotel rooms actually function, and he even breaks down how the casinos are not just tilted in their favor, how they're actually engineered to never let you win. If you were interested in how crime really works in one of the biggest cities in America, well, this is the episode for you. So sit back, relax, and welcome to camp. Tony Hernandez, how are you, brother?

What's up, man? Long time. How you did? Absolutely. Life is good, bro. Thank you so much for joining me once again. Thanks for having me. For anyone that is tuning to the program that is not familiar,

Tony's been on the show a bunch of times, former cop, you know, NYPD guy, doing subway transit specifically, down in the underbelly and the beast of New York City. Big Dick Tony is what they called him back in the day. That was the name he got. We were back in the day. Yeah, yeah.

I don't know why they called it. That's just what the name was. I never checked. You spite on me in the back. But now you're Vegas, Tony. Because you were out in Vegas for a lot. How long were you out there for? Just about three and a half years.

And I just feel like... I've been going to Vegas for a while, visiting and stuff, but I always knew I kind of wanted to migrate there. So once I got out of the police apartment, I thought it was really holding me in New York City, went straight there. And you have a just interesting perspective on life for a few reasons.

And going to Vegas is a very interesting place because you obviously, you know, have a family grown up in New York that is sort of adjacent to the mob, I think would be a fair way to put it. You know, your father owned a restaurant. He knew some of these mob guys. You saw how, you know, organized crime was working for, a young age.

Right. And then you go into the police force and you're seeing how organized and disorganized crime is operating every single day. And then you get out and you go to Vegas, the city of crime. This is a place that I see in city. I find it fascinating. I like Vegas. I don't want you to think I'm bagging on it.

But at the same time, at certain hours, there's a darkness. You know what I mean? Like there's a lot of lost souls that end up there trying to figure it out and some of them never leave. I agree. And as a result, Vegas is anything you want you can find. And you being out in Vegas for the time that you were there. With the background of the expertise that you have,

I feel like you saw and noticed a lot of criminal aspects to the city that most people wouldn't. 100%. So we were even talking briefly before this and you were like, all right, we got a couple things. So one, I think maybe an easy place to start. I love a good scam. I love seeing how scams operate. I like seeing how clever criminals can be to try to scam people. And I was just out in Vegas four days ago.

And I'm sitting there at the diner, wait a lot. comes up to me, he's like, yeah, you know, like I got a house that I'm, you know, trying to buy that, and I own five vehicles, so I'm killing it. I was like, you want five vehicles? And he goes, yeah, yeah, I put him out on Toro. And I was like, what? And then he was like, yeah, it's, you know. And it's just a hustle kind of like as a Vegas guy, every Vegas guy is in a mindset

of hustling. Yeah. And then you just brought it to me, oh yeah, have you heard about the Turro scam? And I was like, what is this? So explain to me how are people using Toro scam. There's a few different avenues, I think, that people use the app for in order to scam. And scamming nowadays has become the norm, in my opinion. It's one

of the most normalized crimes. I think, like, when I was growing up, drug dealing was kind of like the thing, because you saw, like, the people getting the money quick or whatever. Now scamming is like the whole new thing. Everybody wants to get online, whether it's crypto, whatever, excuse me. It's kind of become like the number

one crime that a lot of young kids want to do now, the get rich quick crime. You know what I mean? So I think that's kind of resonated to these apps, you know, on the phone, because as technology, the scams get more elaborate. So how do you get around these, let's say, the provisions or the safeguards that these apps put in place and certain rental companies and stuff like that to kind of like prevent these scammers?

And really quick, Turo, for now that's watching, is just a car rental app. Turo is a peer-to-peer car rental app. Airbnb for car rentals. That's it. Basically, what you do is you'll rent a car from an individual that owns the car, let's say. Some of them have businesses, you know, that they just put it on Turo. But there could be just a guy who's got a Toyota Corolla, and he only uses it Monday through Friday, and he wants to rent it out Saturday, and Sunday they get a little extra cash. I think that's how the concept of it started.

But like you were saying, Waiter has five cards. It's grown into a almost. I don't want to say a passive income, because after I did it, I can see it wasn't really as passive as I thought. But they mask it as that as something, hey, throw these cars, you don't have to worry about it, blah, blah, blah. However, like most of these apps that are popular now, Turro, Uber, DoorDash, I'm sure if you talk to anyone who's either work for them or has any kind of experience, they've been a victim of a scam one way or the other, whether it's from the customer or the customer does something and the host company doesn't want to cover it. They just say, hey, you know, eat the loss, even though you were scammed. So how did this happen for you? So this happened to me.

Like I said, I moved out to Vegas or whatever, and I didn't really know what I. I wanted to do yet. I knew I wanted to transfer into some kind of business out there because Vegas is a hustle city like you said. I thought New York was the hustle city, but Vegas literally, I thought New York was the hustle city, but Vegas literally is the hustle city. It's 24-7, non-stop. Does it shut down around a certain time? Eh, maybe. But the thing is, like once the club kids are getting out, because it's not like here where everything closes at four, closes out like five, six, sometimes goes later. People start getting ready to go to the airport, then you got the other tourists. almost like a revolving door.

So in that, a lot of people do rent cars. That's what I did. I rented cars when I went out there. I met this couple, and long story short, they were like business people. They worked in corporate jobs, and they were making so much money they set off a tour. They were getting ready to leave their corporate jobs. I started to rent the cars for them, I thought that was going to be a good business. So what I do, I bought three luxury cars, moved out to Vegas, started word of mouth, renting them out.

It was actually an amusement video, a couple rappers. It was okay. but the money wasn't steady. So what did I do? I threw Monturo. Fucking worst mistake I ever did, bro. Like literally. Like it just...

What kind of cars? Two Mercedes and one Range Rover. Okay. GL 450, the big one that has like seven Cs. GLB, AMG 35, and Range Rover Sport. Nice. So I was thinking in my head, whatever, like these cars will do great out here, you know,

for like a guy that wants to be a little sporty or whatever. You can have the AMG, somebody who wants a bigger group family, a lot of suitcases, they can have this. It was going okay, you know, like I said in the beginning. And then the first guy who rented the Rangerover, the Mercedes rented out, okay, excuse me,

first guy rents the Rangerover. He wants to extend the trip. I say, okay, no problem. He extends it. Now, I had a track on the Ranger Over, thank God. He's three hours late now to return the car. I say, hey, you know, I'm waiting for you. It's fucking three hours later.

Like, what's going on? You give me the run around, this and that. Basically, he told me and summed it up, go fuck yourself, you're not getting your car back, just like that. And so I contact Turo, I'm like, look at the messages between us. It's in the abbey. He basically told me to screw off. He's not giving me my car back, blah, blah, blah, blah. They said, do you have a tracker on the car?

I said, yeah, but it's in a Citi's part of town or whatever. I'm not showing up there. It's hoping carry in Vegas. This guy could have a gun. Like, what's going on? Yeah, it's crazy. That they're like, yo, go get it back. Yeah, go self-repo.

I'm like, yeah, all right, I guess. So whatever. I did have a tracker on the car, whatever. I played it smart, and I wound up going to get the car myself. Really? Yeah. So what happened? Turro was just like, well, we could send you out.

If you know where it is, we could send out a tow truck to go get it, blah, blah, blah, this and that, whatever. And it was just so much red tape. And I'm like, dude, the guy has my car. He told me to go fuck myself. Go get it. Like, I gave it to you guys to rent to him. Basically, you rented it to Turo.

You're not covering me? So what happens? So I basically went, and I finally got an upper echelon member of to get on the phone because usually it's somebody in the fucking Philippines that has no idea what's going on. And I get a guy on the phone and he's like, all right, do you know where it is? Are you going to be safe going there? Well, I'm like, I think so. I don't know.

But, you know, what's the recourse? He's like, go ahead and, you know, you can go get a self-repoet and we'll charge all these fees. Okay, go get it. The car is a fucking mess. Like I said, all brand new cars or whatever, fucking smoked in it, oil on the seats. Like, I'm like, what the fuck? Like, what would you do in this car? And where is it?

Is it in a driveway? It's in a parking lot. and anybody that knows Vegas, the bridge suites, I think, on Boulder Highway, and Boulder Highway is like a notorious highway. We're going to touch on that later. There's just a lot of criminal shit that goes on there. From prostitution, drug dealing, stolen cars, I find that I found it out later. I winded up finding out about this stuff later as I did my investigation.

Like, what the fuck? Why would, you know, this neighborhood, CEDY okay, but why steal my car, why park it here? Like, what's the motive behind it? I never really got to find out why this guy did that, but that was. the one case. Okay, second case now. Like I said, I had three cars. Each one of them were pretty much affected. But the second case, that was a little bit more, was definitely a scam, was another old lady comes and rents my car. She takes a small GLB, right? Brand new, the cars, they have like less than a thousand miles. Obviously, if the car is brand new, the tires are going to be brand new.

Everything is going to brand new. I take pictures. of the cars, I put them on Turo, right? I put them on the app so you can see actually what their pictures are. I get the fucking car back now. I think I know this one. Dude, the tires are gone. They're totally different tires. They're stripped and there's lights broken on the inside.

I'm like, dude, what the fuck is this? So the lady returned the car in the nighttime so I wouldn't see their shit. And nobody's thinking or whatever. Go check the sizes of the tires or the thread. I'm just like looking inside. Like, did you smoke? No, everything, any scratches, everything looks good. Okay, cool.

The next day, I'm just like, I come, I look, and I'm like, what the hell is this? I look, totally different, the car is pulling like this. I'm like, what the fuck? Totally different size of the tire. I take it to the mechanic. They fucked up, they cracked, the struts were messed up, the axle was cracked, it was like a whole bunch of shit.

Turo basically told me, go fuck yourself. You didn't take good enough pictures of the tires. You didn't take pictures of the axle. I'm like, who the fuck gets on their hands? He needs to take a picture of the axle or whatever while you're renting out a car. So, so basically I had to eat that loss. I've heard of this before. I've heard of people doing that

where they'll have a G-wagon, go rent a G-wagon, swap the tires. Or even, like, they'll have a completely different car, but they just want the tires from this car. Brand new tires. I saw a video, actually, on Instagram where this guy was taking the fender off, and the guy tracked his car. It was like a tour. And he was fucking taking the fender off or replacing the fender to go sell the fender.

And the guy wouldn't even know that the fender was aftermarket. I mean, scamming? That's on another level, bro. I mean, yeah, you always kind of got respect it once it starts getting clever enough. you're like, oh man, you fucking got me. You got me. I don't think what happened to me, though, was clever. I think Turrell just was like, you know what?

Like I said, we're not dealing with this. It's kind of iffy. We don't know. I'm like, dude, the car was brand new. I've only rented it out twice. Like, this was maybe the second time I rent the Mercedes. I'll give it a mid-tier scam. I'll give it a mid-tier scam.

Yeah, definitely a scam. So now... You've seen people on Facebook Marketplace doing their scams now? Yeah, what's that about? I mean, I'll give you just a little one. This is like, it's pretty clever how they do it. Oh, dude, there's actually a few different ways of this works. One is, all right, you go on face a marketplace.

You're trying to sell me this microphone. Okay. And I hit you up and I go, hey, I love this microphone. It's $100. Okay, I bet I'll buy it. What's your information? Some of your Venmo's Zelle. I send you $150.

And then I go, hey, I accidentally send you too much money. My bad. Can you send me the $50 back? And you go, yeah, sure, no problem. You send me $50, but my original transaction, you never goes through. Why doesn't it go through? Because I block it through my bank. So the second I send it, it'll show up, like pending transaction, $150.

I hit you immediately, please send me the $50, and then you send me the $50, and that one does go through. And so then you never get your shit. I get $50, and you do that all day. Jesus Christ. And then people do it with like painting. They'll be like, hey, I love you. I think your hair is beautiful.

Like your beard. Can I paint a picture of you? And they go, yeah, yeah. And then they'll be like, I'll pay you to paint you. And then they'll be like, I'll pay you $50. And they'll send $500 and be like, How can you send me $450 back? Some shit like that.

What a fuck. I mean, like I said, nowadays, everything with technology, it's getting so easy for people to just mass themselves. Before the old common, you just have to see them, then they disappear. You don't even know who the fuck you're talking to. You have no idea. The last one at this point. My friends' grandparents sit and watching TV, old people, watching a smart TV. All of a sudden, like a warning pops up and says, your TV subscription is almost done.

call this number. They call the number, start talking to the guy. The guy's professional. Talks him through it. The whole this, that, the third, whatever. Fleeces them for like two grand. And I was like, how the fuck? It really disgust when they get the old people. The smart TV.

Like I get sending someone an email being like, oh, your Facebook's hacked. Sending someone on a smart TV, they somehow hacked into the TV, got this message to pop up, and then ran their shit. Crazy. Insanity, man. So third tour of skis.

You have one more car left that's not completely destroyed. I don't know if you would classify this one as a scam, but it's definitely used in illegal activity that I know. Okay. So this one gets a little bit more seedy and it actually involves members of everybody's favorite ICE Homeland Security, who nowadays is very famous. At this time, this was before Trump was obviously at office, so, you know, you didn't really hear too much about them. Well, my law enforcement background, I knew who to contact because of this particular situation. So, same thing. This must be a thing.

I don't know, maybe they should restrict old ladies from renting. Right? Dude, there's got to be something, but I don't know. You're 0 and 2 for old ladies. If you can ghost who the host is or who the client is and who is going to drive the car, then like there's no recourse. Like you're not going to add any drive. Who do you know?

Like, you bring a sweet little old lady. You never think like something's going to go happen. I think that kind of makes you know. You're not racist. You're not sex. I'm not agist or whatever you call. You're an ageist, bro. You're ages, bro.

If some ladies trying to rent my shit, she's over 65, hit the bricks, right? You don't want to hear my opinion about senior citizens on social media then. Oh, my goodness. No, no, no, they shouldn't be a lot. They should be illegal. I think after 55, you have to go to, like, you know how they make you drill those little puzzles to make sure you're not a robot? They should have, like, a little test. Yeah, but the test is two and a half hours long.

Yeah. And grandma's just sitting there clicking away, like, golly. I just want to touch my uncle. Yeah, yeah. I think that's a good concession. After 65, no social media. I think even before that, I think they're too out of touch. 27.

After 55 is when you got to start. Like, oh, every when they start, like Social Security, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 59, 62, somewhere around there. So no social media, because their brains just, they can't handle the technology. And then, on top of that, drugs are legal. Drugs are what? Legal.

Drugs are legal. For the old people. What kind of drugs, though? A little MDMA, a little mushrooms, a little head of me. Some 80-old guys' balls, bounce around Bedford Avenue. while he's on, he's having PCP episodes. Okay, we don't need PCP, but I'm just saying, give him a little bar, you know what I mean?

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for sponsoring this program and making this show possible with this paid advertisement. Let's get back to the show. Anyway, I've got a soft track, okay? Some old lady... Even so. Some old lady's trying to take your car. So now this old lady rents the car. I think nothing of it.

Okay, the car comes back. Now I'm wary, so I'm fucking, I don't go and check the axle, but I get on my hands and ease. I'm checking the thread. I'm taking really good pictures of everything because I don't want what happened with the previous car to happen again. Okay. She rents the car. It's about for maybe five days or whatever, right? Same thing I have a tracker on this car.

When you rent it in Nevada, I'm assuming maybe you'll take it to California. Maybe you'll take it into the mountains or let's see how a Zion is close. Utah, places like that, whatever. And this is the range? This is the big Mercedes. Okay, so she rents the car, and the GPS is giving me like a signal, like where the car is and stuff. And I see it like crossing border. Like, to Mexico.

Like, I'm like, what the fuck? Like, going from Arizona is one thing, California, one thing or whatever. But now you're crossing it to Mexico. It doesn't not a close drive. I don't know the rules on that, though, with Turo. It didn't at that time as well. I wasn't really too familiar with the rule of taking it because I never thought that somebody would take it

and go down the border. How far is Vegas to Mexico? I want to say maybe eight hours. The best of what I'm saying, it's not a little, like you're not in San Diego, like, oh, a little 45-minute drive. Because from Vegas to a certain spot in Arizona was about five, and I think that spot in Arizona,

I don't want to say what city. I forget the name. It was maybe Phoenix. But from Phoenix, to the border is only a few hours. Right. So you gotta figure whatever, like there's a straight shot

or going to California down to San Diego. Long story short, the car comes back. No problems, everything, but now, like, I'm going to rent it out again. So obviously you have to clean it up and everything. I find these passports.

Mexican passports, American passports. I'm like, what the fuck is this? And where are they under the seat? No, they're actually, once some are in the glove compartment, and then, like, I found, I guess you could say like a wallet, like a woman's kind of wallet, whatever, under the seat

that had like social security cards, all kind of like different identification for different people. None of them matched the lady that I rented it to. They look legit? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know Mexican passport, but the U.S. passport look legit. The social security cards look legit.

They almost look brand new. I couldn't compare it to a real one, but if I had to say this was a real social security card, yeah, I would say so, especially with my background in law enforcement, having stopped people look at their ID, social security card, it looked pretty similar.

So I really didn't know what to do at that point. I didn't know like, you know, what was going on, this and that. I reached out to a body of mine in law enforcement in down in Vegas, and he was like, oh, you know, maybe you should contact Turo. And I was like, I told him the whole fucking story or whatever about what happened with this game. I was like, they are no help. I'm going to wind up getting some 15-year-old from Bangladesh, the business even though his fucking name. And, you know, what are you doing?

You're smuggling? You're smuggling? Sounds good to me. Now you're suspended. Now, you know, maybe they're suspended. He's going to sign up. That dude's going to be like, I'll be there tomorrow. This guy puts me in contact with one of his buddies

at Homeland Security in California. I talked to him, vehicle was pinged several times, going over the Arizona and San Diego border. I don't know how I didn't see the San Diego one. So I asked him, I was like, yo, what's the story with this? Like, found some passports in the car, turned them into law enforcement, blah, blah, blah. He couldn't really talk on, you know, much of investigations

and stuff like that, whatever. But he said, you know, these patterns are very similar with human smuggling. So what they'll do is a lot of these smugglers, and I can actually attest to this because I've had some cousins cross the border illegally. This was a long time ago, but this is how they did it. When my cousin came here legally, he wanted to bring his family. So in order to bring his family, you know, young kids, if you have the money, you're not going to be crossing the Rio Grande and fucking crawling through the desert. You're going to come here, you know, in luxury if you have the right connections and money. So he hired a couple of coyotes.

They call him. They work for the cartel. and my cousins came here in a brand new Mercedes, a brand new car. The lady that they were with said, hey, remember those people? They said to the border agent, remember those people, whatever I told you I was going to bring? Here they are. Just like this. No papers, no nothing.

That first time in the United States. What that border, what the Homeland Security agent was kind of conferring to me without telling me was it was a similar operation as to that. What a lot of these smugglers will do is they'll rent well-to-do cars, everything above board as far as registration. Legit. U.S. Plates. U.S. plates, all that stuff.

You're coming from Nevada. Yeah, we're in Vegas. Now we're going to Mexico. Whatever excuse they use. Or they have corrupt border agents, whatever the case may be. It's a lot easier to get someone in a fucking nice luxury vehicle. And I'm guessing that's what it was used for.

Interesting. Yeah. I mean, human smuggling sounds, uh, it sounds like insane. And it is almost of the time. But then every now and again, it's like, oh, it's just, you know, some old ladies, some kids that they're trying to bring back with their parents that are here legally. or whatever the hell the situation may be, and so they put him in the car and drive over.

My buddy Fernando Puente, he's a great dude. He's down in San Diego. He used to be a coyote for a little bit. Oh, really? And yeah, he would talk about, the way he would do it was like a little different, but he would basically go through the San Diego Tijuana border, and he would get fake passports

because basically like his cartel connects would be like, here's a bag of passports that we had kids steal from resorts. Yeah, a lot of them are left on the roads as well. Yeah, you see them. Yeah. So take the passport, trying to match him up with this person that's paying us to smuggle him across. And then he's a U.S. citizen. So he goes to the border and then basically goes through the immigration line like at the actual, like no car.

You like walk through it. And he was basically like, you, if I'm taking you over, you stand like two people behind me. Go to the line that I go to. Go to the agent that I go to. If they try to send you to a different agent, don't do it. And he told me that he didn't have to connect with the agent, but he was going through every day that he was tight with like, two of the guys. And so on any given shift, he, like, knew someone that was there and he was cool with them, and he knew that they were, like, pretty chill. So he would stand in line, go through,

and they would basically outfit the person that they're smuggling with whatever they needed. So it's like, okay, you're like a 30-year-old dude, you're a construction worker. Here's a high-vis vest. Here's a hard hat. Here's some boots. You're going to the U.S. to work. You're going back tomorrow. And they give them fake passport, give them all the fake documents. They come through. And then the second they come through, throw that shit out, and then they're in. And so I wonder if it's a similar thing. Like, I wonder if they left the passports like on purpose, you know? Because like, it's possible.

Once they get across, now they're here legally. On top of that, you don't want to have, you know, stolen identification. Why do you have a fake passport, right? Like you don't, but at the same time, it's like leaving in the car. I think that's a mistake, actually. Might have been a mistake. Because I think now you're going to call and be like, let's say you're just a naive, you know, old lady. All of a sudden, you're going to call and be like, hey, some guy left his passport.

Can you get it back to him? They're going to go to the account. They're going to track it. But I bet you these accounts are all using fake IDs anyway. That's what I was going to say. These are like shell companies a lot of the times. Like if you think about it like that, whether you just use like one account to the next account to the next account,

and before you know it, you don't even know who really registered for it. Or if the, like you said, what about the passport looks real, but it's fake? Yeah. They used it. The guy at the Mexican border is like, all right, go ahead. No problem. You know? Sometimes those machines are down.

And they won't tell you the machine is down. Right. The passport scanning machine, they'll just go through the process as if it's, on, you know, so who knows. There's so many different avenues or so many what-ifs, I guess we could go down or whatever, but at the end of the day, we both know that something was going on there. You don't leave random passports in a car of totally different people, social securities, different names, like it all, like I said, all the totality of the circumstances kind of led me to believe that. And just telling you the story, you kind of think it is a little

bit, you know? It's just weird. Yeah, it was obviously for human smuggling. Right. It's some kind of smuggles, some kind of thing was going on there, you know? The cartel rented your car to smoke people across the country. Using fucking Abolita Guadalupe, whatever, they snuck right through and gave me my car back. And none the wiser. Because who would it tie back to? Think about it. If they're going back and forth, it's ping to me, my name.

So they'd be like, yeah, you're responsible. Even though I was rented off tour, you get my point. Dude, if I saw Tony Hernandez in fucking El Salvador, I'd be like, no, it's not him, bro. You got the wrong guy, I promise. He didn't do it. He didn't do it. He's a God-fearing man. Damn.

Okay, so tell me about other crime in Vegas. First of all, do you sell these three cars? Yeah. At that point, whatever, I saw that the car rental market, unless there's a lot of guys that do make a lot of money from it and you have it on lock, but using the Turrell model, I don't really see it as a functioning model. Maybe it was during COVID. I also think Vegas is a little different, in my opinion.

I bet you you could be doing it in like a small town. No, Vegas was a good city to do it in because people want to go there. And even if they're not like that movie 21, I don't know if you remember back in the MIT student. Like when they go to Vegas, they're a whole different person. So you might be driving a Corolla in, you know, Massachusetts. When you go to Vegas, hey, fuck it, I'm in Vegas. I want to feel what it's like to sit behind a Range Rover.

That was my idea. Like, people want to come here and they want to bowl out. And it worked for a while. But then after Turo didn't cover me on that, I took a loss. The tires, a couple other things. Like I said, they put oil on the seats, all this kind of shit. I'm like, it's really not worth the hassle. So I ended up selling all the cars

And I didn't really know what I wanted to do But I said, you know what? Let me stay in the automotive industry I made a lot of connections from renting it out Like I said, I did it privately for a while So I made like some well-to-do clients People that came to Vegas just for business You know? So I said, you know what? Let me see if I can do like maybe almost an executive protection kind of thing

With my background in law enforcement Yeah, you're a cop Let me get a nice suburban or like a towel or something So that's what I wound up doing I don't know if I can ask you this Do you still have access to a weapon? Yes. Okay.

And so legally you've open carry. Yeah, why, that's it? Wait, do you always carry it on you? I mean, New York usually. Yeah. So you have it, you have training. Vegas is open carry, though. Vegas is open carry.

You have training as a cop. And, you know, you're in Vegas. You're like driving cars. Right, exactly. And you have a couple, so it's like, yeah, let me just, you know, take some people out. So, no, what I did was I totally sold those cars and I bought the big suburban, the big SUV. Because I'm thinking in my head, like, all right, the more passengers I can get in this, the more fucking money. Of course.

You're charged by the head, you know. So that's what I started doing I started doing that And then I said, you know what? Let me take it to the next level I wanted to start doing Uber I said let me this can maybe make some Meet some nice people or whatever

You know and I was getting bored To be honest with you You know to be Retired in your 30s 40s is not the thing I don't care what anybody said Even your 20s is probably fucking sucks man Because what do you want to do everything

And then you got nothing else to live for Whatever towards the end of your life You know you kind of want to just keep the ball moving So I said you know what I gotta stay busy I got to do something And the shitty thing about driving such a nice vehicle I knew I wanted to have a nice vehicle because I wanted to do like Uber Black,

like Uber Premiere at the top one, you know, because that's where you're going to make the most money. And I wound up getting this Tahoe and that's how I started doing it. And then from there, what sucks is in the beginning they kind of make you do regular Uber. So I'm like pulling up in this luxury vehicle and, you know, it's like

people think you're coming to like a little Kia like you usually get and stuff. Let me tell you some. I love that. I love when I get an UberX from JFK and all of a sudden the Tahoe pulls up, the suburban? Come on, bro. Yeah, but as a Ui guy, you fucking hate it.

Yeah, of course. You know, you're getting maybe a quarter of what the revenue you should be getting. Anyway. So who do you start driving around? Like, once you get into that. So now it was randoms, obviously, but I had my connections or whatever. I started driving some while to do people, casino executives, a lot of athletes, movie stars.

In the area that I was in in Summerlin, I guess you would consider it like the Hamptons. So there's a lot of, it's a very nice neighborhood. The funny thing about Vegas is that everybody thinks it's 24-7 party. 15, 20 minutes off the strip, it's a whole different place. I'm talking about, you know, palm trees in paradise. That's what I call. Gated community, a little resort, a little lakehouse.

That's it. You know, it's very nice. So, but as nice as it is, there's always an underbelly of crime, no matter where you are, from the most exclusive neighborhoods all the way to the ghetto. The problem is with, well, I guess the disguise is when you're in the nice neighborhoods like Summerlin or the Hamptons, the crime is swept under the rug, or it's behind closed doors, nobody complains.

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but I'm losing the word here, but if it facilitates human smuggling, I don't think that Turo itself facilitates human smuggling, but there are several businesses in Vegas within the city limits the confines of the city that I do feel are, you can't call them open-air prostitution because it's on the low,

but everybody knows that the prostitution goes on. So I'll give you an example, massage parlors. Now, here in New York City, see it as well, but there's something that's different about them in New York. You'll see, like if you go to flushing, usually like now, it's a big deal because

everybody's talking about it with the recent migrants. Flushing has got all the Chinese hookers on 41st, you know, massage, massage, massage, a Roosevelt Avenue. They did that whole operation of Roosevelt with all the Venezuelan girls and coming in, you know, streetwalkers pretty much, open-air prostitution.

Vegas has that, but I think the majority of the prostitution and stuff, is behind closed doors. And that's, that is the, that is what facilitates the, uh, the human smuggling. So these massage parlors, they're really prevalent on the, uh, the southwest, definitely on the west side of Vegas from the strip. Vegas is broken up on the strip.

So Las Vegas strip, you're east of the strip, west, north, south, right? So I want to say like southwest around there is, uh, the spring mountain area, Chinatown, there's a massage parlor like one every fucking five feet. Okay. In these massage parlors, not only Asian girls, same like in Jackson Heights, Roosevelt, flushing, Hispanic girls, Venezueling, Colombian. You're like wondering, like, how the fuck do you get from there to here? Like, you know, some people, you know, they come from these South American countries or Caribbean countries.

They usually wind up in Miami, New York, Florida. or maybe they go a little east to Connecticut. But how the fuck do you wind up all the way over here? You kind of start asking questions or, you know, look at it. And you can kind of tell who will talk and who won't. A lot of these girls, they're not allowed to leave the spots. But if you'll see some of these, like, hot, Colombian girl in the middle of fucking Vegas and so it's like, you know, you don't speak too much English,

you don't really work in this place, in a supermarket, let's say, you know, and you look good, and you might hand out a card, and you look at the car and it says massage, and you put two and two together. It's like, this is a fucking front for a prostitution house. That's all it is. But how does it work? They are all over Vegas.

So basically, if we go back to what we were saying about human smuggling, about getting people over the border, what a lot of these places will do is strip clubs as well is they'll sponsor these girls. Okay. So you might have a connection down in South America, let's say, Columbia, one of these places. And a lot of these girls will line up.

They want to come here. They want to get smuggled into the country. And it costs money to get smuggled to the country. They're broke. But they look good. And a lot of these guys know what the deal is. Hey, a lot of times they're promised cleaning jobs and shit like that. Or, hey, you might work in a spa.

You know, they'll tell them that. And it's a spa that gives massages. And then the massages lead to open-air prostitution. You know, suck, fuck. Whatever you want to do, they'll do. So these girls are smuggled over sometimes under the guys of them. They might have a job. So that's how they're,

to work it off. Say, hey, listen, it's going to cost me 50 grand to take you over there. Okay, how are you going to pay that? You're going to have to work for us for this certain amount of time. The problem is that a lot of these smugglers, they lie. They get them over here. They take their phone away, total communication, leave them in one of those

massage parlors, and those girls are not allowed to leave. They're there 24, 7, 7 days a week, and they're servicing all the guys that are coming in. And they don't know anyone here. They don't speak any English. They don't speak the language, no bank account. The money's by whoever brought them here. And if they don't do what they say they're going to do, as in, hey, I didn't sign up for no prostitution.

Some girls are gung-ho for it. They want to do it. Yeah, they'll do whatever it takes to stay. Whatever it takes to get out of where they are. But some girls, under the guys of, hey, you're going to go clean rich people's houses in the U.S., and now they're in a fucking rundown massage parlor or in Vegas. They're like, yo, I was totally duped them not doing this.

And then the cartel, whoever smuggled them here, will say, well, we're going to kill your whole fucking family back in Colombia. It's really like that. It's like that. Yeah, it's like that. They'll get them. It happens in China a lot too. Russia, China, that's more of the strip club things.

If you've ever seen a lot of these girls, they'll get bused to the strip club and then busts right back, wherever they're staying. And they all just go strip club back, strip club back. If you'll notice, I don't remember the name, but there was an operation where they busted like a whole brothel of like Eastern European and Russian girls. There was a strip club here in the city, just back and forth. whatever, shuttling them back and forth.

And they're put up in like... They're put up in, like, a hostel. Or like in an apartment, and everybody's got their little section or whatever, but you're not allowed to leave there. There's a guard at the door. Whatever you need, you tell him. He goes and does a shopping for you, whatever,

and you're here. You're like a fucking... You're a victim. And I'm sure they put four or five girls in a... Oh, and more than that, man. Bunk beds. I used to go to strip clubs a lot here in the city, and every once in a while,

like, I know the demographic of the city. It's usually the girls that dance depending on the neighborhood you're in. is usually black, Spanish, you know, some kind of Latina, something like that. He's club at their own thing. And they have, but they have an accent from here or, you know, from somewhere in the U.S. When you start to see an importation of other girls coming in that I speak absolutely no English, you know, and you hear their accents, and they're like, then, you're literally fresh off the boat.

Like, you came here to come to work to a strip club? I don't think so. Like, how did you facilitate that? And usually it's facilitated because they come on smuggled in and they're not allowed to leave and half their money or all their money goes to the pimp or the coyote or whoever smuggles I'm here and they have to work until they pay that dead off I mean it's literally slavery

it's slavery it's basically what it is whoa yeah so that that's really prevalent and then I wonder how do you even stop that like you know you can set up a sting you can go in ask you a girl like hey what's your paperwork da da da da da they're so these schemes and these organizations are so

thorough and thought out that they've thought about that already so a lot of times what they'll do is you might go to this massage parlor right and meet a girl you like and you'd be like damn okay everything went good you know you're not a cop she's not a cop and you're just a regular joe and you just want to go there now a lot of these guys uh that smugglers what they'll do is every six to eight months those girls get moved to a whole new whole different location they have no idea where they are in order to not let them get too closer to john that might like them and be like you know maybe i get you out of here or you know what can i hope for you this like so they'll just keep rotating them around

so that way they don't develop any kind of relationship. They got no phone, no contacts. So once they get moved to a different area, different city, whatever. Even if they had a phone, let's say, okay, maybe they can call 911, this and that. But like I said, what's the repercussions that going to come from that? That 911's not going to help your family or protect your family in your country. If, you know, somebody says, hey, you know, so-and-so fucked up in the U.S. And now you've got to pay.

You also don't know, like, I don't doubt in some of these countries that they will just murk your whole family. Sure. But even if they're not going to, just the threat of that is enough to make anyone be like, why would I risk it? You know what I mean? Like, yeah, we know where your grandma lives. Like, something's going to happen.

Sure. You don't even have to say violence, something's going to happen. And all you got to do is just pay off your debt. And you're like, man, how selfish am I to not just pay off my debt? I got us into this situation. And it's fucked up because you don't know what your debt is. You don't know how much you're paying off.

And you don't even know what they're going to do. I bet you in some of these cases, they're just bluffing. But it's enough to psychologically put you, in a spot where you're just completely trapped. Of course, man. I mean, it's definitely a psychological warfare in a way, but do you really want to test the guy's bluff?

Especially in countries where those things do happen. Like, you hear about it, like so-and-so's family got slaughtered by the cartel. They killed even the baby. Like, you know, the six-month-old in the crib, they shot him in the face. Yeah, shit like that. It actually happens. Yeah. It reminds me of a story once.

Me and my friend at the time, we left the club with these two chicks. and one of the chicks I was with one of the chicks he was with the other one and the one that he was with she was working for like some Russian gangsters

some mobsters or something doing like credit card shit that was like a waitress or something stealing credit cards and all that bullshit and when she decided to stop they didn't threaten

they didn't do anything or whatever they sent her an envelope and the envelope was her kid coming out of school so is that a message or is that a message yeah that's not saying

I'm gonna kill you that's not saying they didn't even fight and she was like I don't don't want to do it anymore. They were like, you sure? They're like, yeah, I'm all right.

And then, like, she found a letter with fucking picture her kid coming out of school. What does she do? Leave it there. Yeah, we leave it out that one. Bro. Yeah, imagine? That was the message. Bro.

You know what I mean? So why, what do you want to do? You want to call that guy's bluff that he won't fucking do something to your kid one day that you're late, waking him up or whatever? Yeah, bro. I mean, this shit is not a game. Like, that is crazy. Like, so how do you get out of that?

Like, I guess twofold. One, how do you prosecute that? Like, how does the state try to stop it? And then if you're that person in that situation or you know someone in that situation, like, what do you do? I think it's too late once it's already started here. You see they've done the Operation Roosevelt now

for like the past year. Like, excuse me, waiting the brothels, kicking out the street workers. It's open-air drug use right across the street from the school. Things like that, it's already too far gone. They're here. They know they got to pay the money back.

They know they're not scared to take a prostitution pinch or a small drug pinch, especially with the way the laws are set up in the city right now. So I think it has to be, you know, taken to a bigger level. So basically, follow the money, you know, where does the money go? So if you see these prostitutes, who are they paying? Obviously, coyotes and stuff like that. It's just a major network, cartel network. That's where you've got to kind of stop it.

And I think that stops with securing the border. ICE doing that job of kicking all these fuckers out of here or whatever that are bringing these girls here. a lot of them will do, a lot of these coyotes are nobodies in their country and they just get the idea of if I can get 10 of these bitches to fucking New York and start making money off of them, I'm the man now. So they're willing to risk a lot too. So I think in order to stop it, you got to kind of get those guys because the prostitutes and that's the low-level people.

You got to get the people actually bringing them in. That's what I'm saying. You get 10 girls, you know, arrest or whatever. They're going to have 10 more tomorrow. Yeah. It's a revolving door. And even know that the girls in those countries, even though they know 10 girls maybe died on the trip,

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It keeps the lights on. It keeps the fire burning. There's an interesting argument for, you know, like border control, right? Like I think most people support like a sensible sort of border issue, right? Like most people are like, yeah, like, you know, find a way to create avenues for people to come in legally, secure the border, da-da-da. I think most people politically across the aisle are on board with that. But, you know, obviously the way that politically right now things have happened,

there's a lot of people that are mad about ICE, which I understand. It's like you're going to like a kid's preschool being like, who are your parents? Where are your papers? You're arresting kids separating from their families. It's messed up. But the flip side is like how many of these cases are there where there's a woman being sex trafficked? She doesn't know what she's getting into. She's showing up in this place thinking it's a different job.

All of a sudden now she's legit being sex trafficked, indentured servitude, slavery. Slavery. No way out. And then ICE shows up and is like, who are you? Who are these people? Who's making this whole thing run? Maybe that turns at a full federal operation or they're able to investigate this, you know, sex trafficking ring.

And who knows? Maybe these girls get deported, but they're like, all right, I'm not putting my family at risk. I'm out of that situation. I wonder how often that happens. Again, I don't know. But it is an interesting ripple when people talk about like border security. It's like, yeah, you're stopping people from coming in that are trying to change their

lives, trying to work and, you know, better their futures. But also you're potentially helping people that are in bad situations that have no way out. I'm in favor of legal immigration I think we should bring back Ellis Island to be honest with you put everybody on an island screen them there and if you're allowed to come in

come into the mainland if not go back to where the fuck you're from you know if people don't agree with that that's your own business but there's no border in the world that people could just walk into so considering the laws and the way that things are set up in this country

when you have those stringent laws on immigration and stuff like that, it creates a black market. You know what I mean? Like, no matter what people are going to want to try to get in there. I wonder if also regulating prostitution in these places. Like, there's a lot of parts of Nevada that have regulated prostitution. And I wonder if the instances of indentured servitude, slavery, are not the same in those places.

I don't know. Like, I haven't really thought through all the externalities, but I wonder. Well, you can look at it on that side, but I'm actually talking about Las Vegas. This happening in Las Vegas. But is it legal? Is prostitution legal? It's not legal. So Las Vegas is one municipality.

Then there's North Las Vegas. Then there's Summeling. Then there's Henderson. So it's kind of where the strip is is Las Vegas. But half of it is North Las Vegas, the city of North Las Vegas. So they kind of split everything up. And I really don't know, to be honest with you. It is illegal.

U.S. state of prostitution? Yeah. So the Bunny Ranch, which is in paramed. Trump, that is technically totally legal. Like, you can walk in there and there's like a menu of services. Yeah, I've never been, but it's expensive, supposedly. But there's also guys on the strip, and there's big billboards on the strip. Girls to your room, 24 hours a day.

I saw these just when I was there. Chica, chicas, they do this with the cars and they give them to you, and it's like girls to your room. So it's like the casino knows it's going on. And prostitution is just so prevalent in Vegas, even if it's legal, it's not legal. It's almost like marijuana here. Like before it was legal, everybody's. smoked anyway, so it was like no big big deal, like to smell marijuana. I think

prostitution has that same effect in Vegas. It's so lax. The laws are so laxed. The girls are walking around in these short skirts around the casinos. The security knows what they're doing. Nobody really enforces it. The only time they enforce it is usually during like an event, like during the

Super Bowl or something like that. There's like a big concert. They try to like maybe clean it up a little for the tourists because then all the girls come Even if you're not a prostitute or you want to go there to make some money off of these guys, it's so crazy. Like some of these girls are regular fucking girls and then they'll go to Vegas to be a prostitute just for the weekend to make some money. Crazy. They go back to a little small town like nothing happened.

Oh, we had a girls night in Vegas. Yeah. Yeah. They're fucking selling, you know, selling pussy. I mean, I'll take that over the trafficking, though. I mean, that is wild. Like, if some girl wants to go there for a weekend and make money, I'm like, whatever, it's not great. But like, I get it.

But, like, the trafficking thing just seems like that is, I didn't realize the depth and the. complexity to how they can really get someone trapped. Like in my mind, I was like, these girls know what they're doing, they're coming over, they make some money. Like that's what I assumed it was, you know, the PIM gets his piece. I never realized how, you know, coercive it was. It's half and half. So what you're used to and what you're talking about still exists in Vegas.

So they call, you know, the street prostitutes. You know, they have their pimps or whatever, you know, they're usually from homegrown prostitutes. I guess you could say from the United States. Maybe they're from a different state. They go to Vegas, like you said, make it big. And they want to ruin in their life or just getting stuck there with no return ticket back home. You'll see that

what they call is the blade. That's where all the strippers hang out. Bold a highway when I was talking you about. Literally with prostitutes in the nighttime. It's a lot of truck stops, a lot of truckers, people like that. It's hard to tell if those girls are trafficked though. Like I said, because

I don't want to say traffic like human smuggling traffic from a different place, but maybe you know how every year there's tons of kids that go kidnapped or disappeared and stuff like that. And they're in the United States. They're homegrown kids from the United States. A lot of them, I think, wind up there on Boulder Highway. Of course.

They meet a guy that's like, hey, I'll take care of you. I can get you an apartment. Yeah, you're 18. You came to Vegas, baby. No problem. Some sweet talking pimp comes in. Then all of a sudden he's got to turn in tricks in front of the New Orleans Casino, too. That's like Blayton. Oh, my God. Like, if you drive past the New Orleans Casino, it's on Tropicana, 100% guarantee you will see at least 10 hookers. Allegedly. No, it's not alleged. Go by. I'm creating legal protection.

Yeah, bro. This is wild. It's just wild, man. So half of the sex work in Vegas is definitely attributed to human smuggling, without a doubt. Half? I would say half. So if we're going massage paulers and streetwalkers, which I would think are the two most prevalent places to look for that kind of work, I would say that the ones that are in the paulers, 99% of them, I would say.

I don't think that they would take them in the parlor if they were one of these bitches that could come and go. You know what I mean? Like they have to have total control on them because you're running in a legal establishment. It's masquerade as a massage parlor. Like a chick on the corner or whatever. A pimp doesn't give a fuck.

He's going to do whatever he wants. And not to mention the other crime that comes with that, right? There's like theft, drug use, all this kind of stuff. Absolutely, yeah. Like you bring a girl to your room, all of a sudden your watch is gone. You know, all of a sudden, you know, there's extra cash in a wall that's not there. I don't know if you saw that. That story, man, young kid, 23 years old, he thought he was going to have a threesome.

He gets these two girls, these two young black chicks. About 10 minutes after security cameras, catching them going up to the room. Chicks are running out of his room. They slip something in his drink. They killed him. Bro. 23, man. He was just, probably the first time he ever went with a prostitute or who knows.

And that's such a shitty situation all around because it's like, yeah, the kid's obviously a victim here, right? Like, he got killed. But then also, like, these girls, I don't know what situation they're in. You know what I mean? And obviously you shouldn't be drugging people But it's like Yeah They got told by some pimps

Like hey put this in his drink He'll fall asleep You can run his shit Dada-da-da The funny thing is It's not always the pimps I think that they A lot of them are sick bastards

They do it on their own A lot of those girls Like I said it's a hustle city So a lot of them don't have pimps A lot of them are their own pimps So they operate alone And they're able to just navigate Because they're protected by

Or not protected by casino security Bro Okay Okay so what else did you see And witness while you were out in Vegas Well I mean leaving the smuggling thing just to the side and the prostitution stuff, we want to talk about

legal sex work, I guess you could say, I worked during the AVN awards, the porn awards, and I mean, just to be a fly on the wall there was great, you know what I mean? Because you're seeing all these girls and I'm like, I remember you. I recognize this one, right? But when you say

working, you were driving? So I was driving. I was driving around. So I had it was at the Virgin Hotel. Ironic. Picked up, yeah, right? Virgin, uh, used to be the hard rock back in the day. So they changed it to the Virgin's right off the strip. I think they always host avians. So they

come in. It's about six girls, all porn stars, and I'm just like, so smitten at this point because they're all like they're dressed like they're dressed in the movies. They're there for the awards. So it's like pasties and they're just tits and ass all over my car. So I'm just like, oh my God.

So I'm quiet. I'm just listening to the stories. Ridiculous, bro. Like these girls, the amount of money that they had offered, and the shit that they got to do, those probably disgusting, but the amount of money that they get offered is like insanity. Like, what are we talking? 50 grand for a night. Wow.

Yeah, but they got to do some really disgusting shit. I don't know. If you ever heard the Dubai, Dubai experience? You got to get shit on and all that kind of stuff. So one of the girls said that there was like this Indian guy. I don't know if it's like a thing with their shit. They like to get shit on or whatever. You offered her 20 grand to get shit on.

For her to get shit on. Whoa. Yeah, like somebody wanted to shit on her. For 20 grand. She said no. But this is the conversation I'm listening to in my backseat, bro. It's like real raunchy shit. Bro.

I mean, I never understood that, to be honest. Just to clean up, the smell. Not my thing. Yeah. And also the prep. You got to think about diet the whole day. Like, it just seems like a whole to do, you know? But these girls, man, like, you know, it's just the dollar.

You know, they'll do pretty much anything for the dollar, I think. Maybe not for 20. But if the guy would offer it a 50, maybe she would have. Yeah. It's just wild stuff, man. And especially Vegas has, like, a massive, like, porn industry, only fans market. Like there's a lot of stuff that happens out there, I'm pretty sure.

I think now it's kind of concentrated towards that. A lot of the strip clubs I hear were having trouble finding talent because all these girls now they want to do only fans. Interesting. You go to Vegas on a Thursday and you're looking for top tier clients, top tier strippers, let's say the clients are looking for and they're like, dude, these girls are disgusting. I'm like, what are these girls? Like, where are the hot girls?

I'm like, it's really hard for the strip clubs nowadays to maintain these girls because a lot of them just want to do Only fans, the hot ones at least. Interesting. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, because the OnlyFans thing, I feel like not a lot of people always clock it, but it is a billboard for other services at times. What do you mean?

Like, not every girl, of course. But you have OnlyFans, you're posting content, and then that feeds into DMs, guys are messaging you, you're paying for the messages, and so now you're charging per message. A lot of times these girls aren't even the ones messaging. It's like it'll be farmed out to an agency. and the agency will have some dude in the Philippines.

That's messaging on her behalf from the account. Interesting. Oh, you're so handsome, like, send me photos, da-da-da. And she's sending 10,000 messages a day, not her. And she's getting paid on every message. And then from there, you have a guy that's like, hey, I'm coming to this city where you're at, this weekend. Can we hang out?

How much to hang out? And then now it's like, oh, let's talk about whatever that rate is. So now it's like the content is just a feeder into a, types of, you know, sexual work, but we can say. Which is just crazy to think, because, like, I think a lot of people are like, oh, yeah, you're just posting feet picks out. It's like some people, but it also can turn into more. And you might get into it being like, yeah, I'll just post some feedpicks here and there.

And then someone offers you life-changing money for you at the time. And all of a sudden, the original plan is not the plan. I think that ties into with these porn stars as well, because, yeah, they shoot sex scenes on camera and stuff like that. but they do a lot of extracurricular activity that derives from their porn. A lot of people just want to maybe be seen with them or hire them as an escort, not for sex. Like, I want to be seen with you on my arm. That's really prevalent in Vegas. A lot of guys that just want arm candy, stuff like that.

I don't know if it was a shuttle service to there or during EDC, because I worked that too. That was probably the craziest weekend in Vegas, EDC. Why? EDC Vegas? Yeah, yeah. No, it's fucking insane. It's like half a million people that come just for that. I see.

So it takes place in the desert, but everybody is concentrated on the strip. This is a big music festival in Vegas if anyone doesn't know. Right. It's called EDC Vegas. I think they do it everywhere. I've never been. Electric, something. Electric Daisy Carnival.

That's what it is. So during those times, I feel like there was a lot of, I don't want to say sex work, but what would you call that? Prostitution? Yeah. I guess you could say that. Yeah. I guess you could say that. Yeah.

So those girls, porn stars, they want to be seen there, you know, at the EDC, wearing their shit or whatever you know. So I was shuttling a lot of them. There was a lot of house parties, mansion parties during that time. But you don't ask questions, but you kind of know what's going on. Yeah. I mean, even you walk around certain casinos, and there's specific ones where you see it more than others. But, like, it'll be a group of like three older guys, mid-60s easily, walking around with these, like, 23-year-old girls. And, like, I was even hanging on my buddy.

And he's like, yeah, that's just how this goes. Like, these guys are coming here for the weekend. They have a work conference. They're doing a buddy's trip, whatever. They have wives. Maybe they don't. Who cares? They're here for the weekend.

They want to be with women. Right. They want to have just convenience. And maybe they want to be out. They want to be at the tables. They want to be at the club. And then they want to go back to the room. And they just want just a hot girl at all these locations.

100%. And if you're a rich guy, it's like, all right, I can just spend like $1,500 bucks and just have a girl for the day. Just like hang out with me. I can talk to her if I want. but if I'm not flirting with her, she's not going to leave. Like, there's no upkeep. It's just like she has a job to do, which is hang out with me all day. And if you're a rich dude that's already going to spend $20,000 that weekend, it's like, yeah, just throw it in.

It's how a lot of these guys are thinking. Oh, 1,000%. And you see it all over. It's funny, too, sometimes when you look at it. Like, you see this overweight white dude, bald in big belly or whatever, and then this, like, smoking hot, like, Mexican shit. You're like, what the fuck? It's like, what are you doing with him? And everyone kind of knows, and no one really says shit.

It's just an interesting thing. It's an interesting dynamic for sure. So I'm curious, when you, were you ever interacting with, like, high rollers? Like, guys spending crazy money at the tables? Like, what are these guys talking about? I had a chick, get in the car once, smoke show. Literally, like, if you like white chicks, like blonde hair, blue eyes, that kind of thing, it's not my type. But, like, you look at her, I'm like, Jesus Christ.

Like, you're, like, fucking in your prime here. I started talking to her. She's 27 years old. She was on the phone chatting a little bit, so when she hung up, I had to ask. And I was like, I heard you say you were just with a billionaire. And she was like, yeah, I was like, how'd you know he was a billionaire? She was like, oh, he's so and sell. So I was like, oh, shit.

I was like, he is a billionaire, right? I was like, what would he do? Like, you know, he worked? Was your boyfriend or something like that? She's like, no, 27, by the way. Like, no, no, no. He likes me to gamble for him. Like, what?

Yeah, he likes me to gamble for him. So this guy who's got like fucking billions of dollars or whatever, she's like, I just lost $100,000 in like five minutes. And he didn't say a word. It was his money. He likes hot chicks to gamble for him He likes to go to the high roller's room And he gets these hot chicks

And he puts the money down at the table And they fucking gamble He doesn't tell them what to do Nothing, that's like his thing What is that? I have no idea I mean you've heard of Findom No financial domination

Oh financial domination I didn't know it was a name Finn Dominole Oh this fucking nickname It's a whole thing That like men Yeah That have a ton of money

Well at times like to be financially dominated So literally like they will find women to give money to And then be like oh wow Like this bag is so expensive But it's not nice enough like they like humiliate them with like It's like a humiliation ritual kind of shit Yeah but like the guys like to be humiliated They get off on it

By how much money they're given away It's fucking weird It's like those guys that like to get kicked in the bowls Or whatever you ever see that? It's literally the same thing It's like so weird It's so I listen it's not my thing I sorry for saying weird if that's your thing

If you're not hurting anybody, you're too consenting adults, do whatever the fuck you want. From the outside. From like my perspective, like, you know, I fucking dry myself with the shower towel too hard or whatever. My boss is, I want to get fucking kicked. Bro, I'd see the automatic tip and it's like 30%. And I'm like, am I getting finned on right? What the hell is happening by the barista? But that's how it feels.

But some of these guys, like, if you got crazy money, it's some type of thing where they're like, I mean, because if you think about it, right, as a guy, like, you work hard, you make money. Right. Like someone taking that money from you. or like, you know, coercing you into giving away that money, could be painful. And if you get aroused from, you know, humiliation or pain, this is just another version of pain of humiliation. Another version.

And everyone's happy, right? Like, the girls getting bredded. You know what I mean? You're getting humiliated? You're getting aroused? Like, everyone wins. So I wonder if that's a part of it for him where he's like, these girls go, they blow all my money, these dumb idiots.

They're just, you know, throwing it all away. It's possible. Awesome. But then I don't know. There's some other hard roles that I've run into, professional poker players that I've driven around who are straight business, man, you know? Like, don't risk money, you know what I mean?

Play like machines, stuff like that. Like, hey, I won, I lost. I'm in there for five minutes or I'm in there for two hours. It's the same strategy. I'm not going over my budget. Have you talked to anyone that, like, was up crazy? What's a crazy number to you? I mean, like...

Some people will be like, oh, you're up 20 grand. That's crazy money, to me it's not really a big. I think, like, you've got to be in the mills. You got to be in the mills. I'll show you a video. Maybe you can put it on there. Somebody left $100,000 in my car, cash. What?

$100,000. Duffel bag. No, one of those little bank secure bags. What? Yeah, 100,000. That gentleman, he was a client of mine. I would have fucking stolen. I don't have that in me, to be honest.

As soon as I text my friend, I was like, bro, somebody left $100,000 in my car. He's like, get the fucking idea. I took a video with it. I was like, boom, boom, boom. For a little money. I was like, 100 grand. So he's like... Also, if you're like me, I'm paranoid.

So like the idea of... You don't forget about $100,000. No, I know he didn't forget about it. He's fucked up. And this guy's gonna be like, yeah, where's the money? So even if you were like, I'm gonna steal it,

there's gonna be a collection. There's always, like, you never seen no country for old men? Somebody's gonna come for their money. Nothing's free. Nothing is free. You don't get away. You never find that hidden treasure

and then all of a sudden nobody comes looking for it. So he was one of my regular clients. Like I said, I did ooh, but I did a lot of private clients. like casino executives, people like that, and they would introduce me to people like, he's a solid guy going with him, you know?

Because the way I met that guy, he fucking walked out of casino. I've seen him with more money than that. So it was a hundred grand. It wasn't a big deal for me to see with him because he bet like that. Did he win a million? I don't think so.

I don't know. I didn't ask him that specific, you know, but I knew he gambled a lot. The first time I met him, I picked him up randomly. And he had probably about 80, 90 grand on him. And I was like a little in shy. I was like, casino just let you walk out of the door with 80, 90,000, no security, no nothing.

He's like, you know, come to think about it. Maybe I do need security. So we started a little rapport. He became one of my good guys. But, I mean, yeah, there's guys out there. You would not know. He's not from Vegas. He's from Florida.

He's from your territory over there. He married guy, businessman, likes to gamble on the weekends. So whatever, goes to Vegas. Goes to, God damn. What's the other one? It's in Missouri, I think. He likes to go to those two casinos, and that's his thing. And it's usually a couple hundred grand from what I can see.

But he's a business guy pro that's there to gamble. He likes gambling. He likes putting money down, winning money. You ask me about the big whales? Like, one of the biggest that I could think of is him. His gambling. I've seen, I've interviewed on my channel, Vegas Policy. You ever heard of him?

He's from New York. He's a big content creator out there in Vegas. He's very into the numbers game. So he goes up all the financials in the casino. He's one of the internet personality, I guess you could say. And he gambles with guys. He's got like a gambling problem, but he calls it a condition. He says he has to gamble for medical reasons.

That's funny. He actually goes through the whole fucking breakdown. I don't know if he really is serious about it, but whatever. He likes to gamble. And he gambles with guys like John Sarsani. I mean, you know, those guys are betting 50 grand a hand, like that kind of stuff. You see it. But, you know, to actually be in there with it, I mean, no, I've,

I've never bet that much myself. I mean, crazy. I get around the high rollers, but it doesn't look like real money to you. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you think in your head, these guys have been $100,000. That's a down payment for a house right now. You know what I mean? Something like that.

These guys are putting it on every fucking bop, pop, pop, pop, bum. I've seen Dana White. I didn't see him gambling crazy, but I've seen him in the, he likes to hang out at the Red Rock poker room. That was his thing. A lot of my clients went to the Red Rock. That's a nice place. Interesting. Nice.

And you'll find high limits guys there. Big high limits guys. But you haven't just. driven around, you know, high limit guys, high rollers, whales. You've also had like athletes, musicians, the whole deal. Without saying names, like, what are the conversations you're hearing? Well, I mean, like I said, I don't want to really mention any names. I'm going to show you on my phone pretty much.

The who's who. I've driven everybody. At one point or another, I think, like, you name them. They've probably been in my car as far as athletes and stars and stuff like that. Recently, we've seen the gambling bust, the NBA. The mob will involve with the gambling and stuff like that. I can see how that happens a lot in Vegas especially. Like the corruption of the gambling, like 100%,000% I can see.

Me, not even being involved myself, me not even being involved myself, I was able to actually place a bet. I had some inside information, whatever, where I won. I'll tell you how. Anybody could do it really, I guess. I don't know if it's illegal, whatever, but I had an advantage. There was a well-known boxer who got in my car. He was drunk as fuck

Smelled like weed I was talking to him a little bit Whatever he's a little standoff He got in with another guy and a girl He at one point accused me Of fucking flirting with his girl Whatever he's stupid He was like he was drunk

The other guy was like Don't pay attention to him I was like yeah whatever In my head I never heard of the other opponent I heard of this guy I never heard of his opponent That he was gonna fight

I went straight to the casino After I dropped him off And bet on the other guy I knew that there was no way This motherfucker was out of shape drunk high I was like he ain't gonna lose and he got his ass whipped, then he wound up losing.

So I came up on a nice bag. How far was he from the fight when you picked him up? About, like out, like three weeks. Wow. Yeah, three weeks and drinking and smoking or whatever, it was almost like a guaranteed fucking win. Wow. So if me, as a driver, executive protection,

whatever you want to call it, just keeping quiet, whatever, just listening, what do you think about the guys that actually have some money? Like, hey, you want to make some money? Very easy. Wow. And then you probably, you could have told some people, you could have told people you know. I could have told a lot of people.

NBA one is fascinating because you have like these prop bets, right? Where you basically say like, oh, X player will get four rebounds this game. Right. And you have the guy go in and he's like, you know, my hamstring kind of hurts. It's not terrible, but it's sore. Goes in the first quarter, gets three rebounds. Hey, I'm out. And all of a sudden, you know, the bag comes in crazy.

But what's interesting with these gambling sites is that because it's regulated, they're able to see if there's irregular activity that's happening. So they can see, oh, there's, you know, two mill coming in on this guy getting three rebounds or under four rebounds and he's kind of like a you know six man side player kind of guy they flag it to the league

and so a lot of these people that think like oh man I'm just going to come upon something crazy if it's a regular they can tell and then now they know and so to me I'm like I wonder if that's almost better like I wonder if that's an argument for regulated gambling the problem is with regulated gambling And I spoke about this recently.

I don't know whose podcast I was on. And they were asking me about it. And I, the thing is, when you gamble with the casino, like, let's say, Cesar's, I don't know, Fandul and those kind of online things, like, rain bet and all that's, that's newer shit. But like the traditional casinos, like MGM and Cesar's, if they don't want to pay you, they don't fucking pay you. That's it. You can walk in there.

There's several instances where guys walk in with half a million dollar ticket, $100,000 ticket. They just deny you and say no. Whatever reason, there's a little caveat on the bottom of the ticket that is. We don't have to pay you if we don't want to, and they don't. That, to me, says I would rather go gamble with somebody who's guaranteed to pay me, and usually that's a member of organized crime. And that's not regulated, but you're almost guaranteed to get your money.

They're more likely to pay you if it's organized crime? Of course. Why? If you gamble with the mob, now see, this is a touchy situation now because of what just came out. The mob usually runs clean games. They usually run a game where they know the people are going to come. They're going to bet. You bet.

You lose. You pay. You win. You win. That's it. You go to the casino. You put a bet. Now you don't going to get paid out.

You're like, yo, what the fuck? I'd rather go bet with organized crime to give them you better odds. And I know that they're going to pay me. Usually that's the way it works. You know, they're not going to,

if they start snubbing players, nobody's going to go play at their games. Now I think they're under a firestorm now because of what just recently came out, that these mob games actually winded up being fixed. That's the whole NBA scandal That's how this whole thing came out One of those players or one of those

Customers or whatever you want a basketball player or just a gambling player Got sour about losing or whatever Or whatever was happening to him And said the games are fixed Something's going on That's how the feds got involved You think so or you know so Half and half

I don't want to say concrete I know but that's usually how it goes Nobody's going to really At a friendly card game You're not going to unless you feel like you got fleeced. Like, yo, then I just really get robbed here and who robbed me, possibly members of organized crime? Who are you going to run to?

You run to the FBI. Now, people are trying to implicate, like, big players in the NBA. Which I don't know how much you can do that. Like, I don't know how you can prove it, right? So, like, for you, for example, you're in the car with a boxer. Is that insider trading? Kind of. Not really, though. I'd say so.

Yeah, it's inside information. But, like, you didn't ask for it. It was not given to you for, for any type of back-end thing. I just got lucky. You saw this person in the same way that thousands of other people probably saw him that night, right? There was a guy at the club next to him being like, oh, wow.

Very true. I didn't think about that. Very true. So it's like, how does that, like, how can you prove, like, did this guy do something wrong? I guess is really the question. Right. And did you do something wrong just by seeing this?

Because let's say you saw it on Instagram. Like, that's, is that, you know what I mean? Like, so I don't know how you prove that or how you federally prosecute it or if that's just what it is now. You know what I mean? It's going to be interesting to see where this winds up because there is a lot of high profile players involved. There's a coach.

You know, like this kind of, you know, premieres the integrity of the league, you know? Oh, yeah, yeah. Now, who the fuck is going to want to bed or watch? Everything is fixed. In my head, I already thought that. You know, I have that in my head already. That it's all fixed all this bullshit.

So, I mean, nowadays, if you take away the integrity of the game, if you take away integrity of the sport, I mean, what's left? What's up, people? We're going to take a break really quick because I have amazing news. I'm coming on the road. That's right, my very first headlining tour where I'm going to every city that will possibly allow me to go there.

I'm going to Salt Lake City. I'm going to Washington, D.C. and Charlotte, North Carolina in February. Those tickets will be announced soon. You can get all the tickets at Mark Yagnon live, and I'll see you guys there. Let's get back to the show. It's so hard, though. I just read something about James Harden that he had one of those parlays, and it was like 40 points throughout the whole game or something like that. and it was like an over-under,

and then he scored like 40 in the first half, and then he scored nothing in the second half. I mean, come on, man. Sometimes it's on front street. You can't not see that it's not fixed. You know what I mean? Like, how can you explain that? I wonder even, like, with, like, AI,

if they're going to be able to flag things even quicker. Sure. Where they're like, this player throughout his entire career in the first half of the game will do this amount of rebounds or this amount of points with this deviation. And then for the last three games, games, it's been out of whack.

And then on top of that, these last three games, there's been crazy money put on these prop bets. And I wonder if that's how they're going to start imaging it and then flagging it. And then I, if you're in the league, any of these players that do it, no matter who, they got to get clipped. Oh, that's going to be a tough one. Because then it comes into politics.

So for example, like let's say you're a LeBron James. And now I'm LeBron James' cousin. And I go and I put a bet and LeBron does what he's supposed to do. What are you going to do? has been the most highest paid player in the game. It's all about this. It's all about the money, bro. They know that gambling goes on.

This is not something new. Pete Rose, you know, back in he was in the 80s, I believe, right? He banned from the whole of fame for betting for placing a fucking bet. And now everyone is placing bets. I mean, people speculate about Jordan, which again, I don't know. But people say, like, oh. Tori is gambler. Everybody says there's no denying that he's a gambler.

People would say, you know, he's like John Gotti. Like these guys were better on cockroaches rolling up the roll. Who would get there first? You know what I mean, it is what it is. Gambler is gambler. My father's a gambler. So I understand the mentality. You asked me before if I was a gambler.

I like to gamble, but I'm not a gambler. Yeah, I think I'm not even that, bro. I went to a little $5 blackjack table. I had 50 bucks. And every hand, I was just like, oh, my God. Like, I just quit. Like, it was, I can't deal with it. I hate it.

You don't like it. Not at all. Like, my buddy Peter has such a funny joke. Peter Rovelli's is. brilliant comic in the city. But he's like, I don't understand gambling because it's like,

you pay, like you get a rush when you win and then you pay money and then you don't always win. It's like, he's like, I understand alcoholism. He's like,

I used to be a drinker, you know what I mean? I couldn't imagine going to a bar, ordering a beer, and then 50% of time they give me an empty beer glass and they're like,

sorry, buddy, like next time. You'd be like, I'm done with this. Right. That's how I feel about gambling. I'm like, I just don't get the rush.

Every other addiction makes sense, but gambling I just don't. it's the action you know it's the adrenaline rush just like anything else it's just what causes it you know

when I can see with my father when I was younger he used to play the numbers sometimes he used to not even fucking check the numbers so you used to just buy the ticket

and leave it there he'd be like oh you didn't even check he's like I know I didn't win like it's a sickness sometimes you know

it's a sickness I'm probably oh that's so funny but I don't think like I don't think that these young guys have that I don't think that

they're gambling addicts yet I think they see it like as a flip as a come up you know And then eventually, like everything else, you start to get into it and then you get addicted to it. I think that's what happens. Because like you said, who would go to a bar and pay for a fucking half empty glass of beer or whatever you, you know?

Who would go? Why would you go and gamble if you don't feel whatever like you're going to win something? Yeah, I guess. You already feel like you're going to win. Even if you don't win, you feel like you're going to win. Yeah. So it's kind of like that's what you're going after. You feel like you're going to win.

You're not going after the win. You're going after that feeling like you're going to win. That's the gambling How crooked do you think the casinos are? You think they fix any games? All of them, I think. I think all of them are 100% crooked. I don't think that there is a legitimate game

in the casino, to be honest with you. Do you know how? They have the cards stacked a certain way. If you've ever seen, well, first off, whatever, so I've gone to casinos and gamble for a long time and this is what came up in the NBA scandal as well. Those shuffle machines. The shuffle machines were rigged

in order to give certain players certain cards. Now, when they started coming around, before Blackjack, they used to have the shoe. You know, you put that thing, and they asked you to cut, and, you know, the thing goes down. It had, like, a little chain attached to it. Now, everything is they press a button, and it's automatic shuffle machine.

When that shit came around, I already knew. I was like, yo, this is just like a computer. Like, how do you know there's six decks in there? How do you know there's not 10? How do you know there's not 12? How do you know there's not two? You don't know how many decks are in there. They can say, oh, there's six decks.

But then sometimes you'll see eight aces out. You know, like, you don't know. You really have no idea. it's a computer. And how do you know that that computer is not shuffling the cards in a certain way to make the dealer always win? Or to make you double down or to make you do this? Like, it's a computer at the end of the day. They're just now releasing AI technology.

That shit's been around for years. And the casino industry, their secrets, you'll never find out about them. They're very tight-knit. Well, the NBA one, that was interesting with the card games, which is kind of separate from the betting of the games. It's kind of two separate things that are happening. But the glasses, you saw that. With Raybanned once? Did you know, do you see this?

Hold up the NBA card game glasses. This is fascinating. So the story is that there'd be like these sort of like, you know, in-house private poker games, high hands, that kind of thing. And they would bring in NBA players to be kind of like the judge. You know what I mean? They give them like a credit line. They give them some money just to show up and play. And they would put on these glasses that show them the cards.

Based off the back. The cards are all marked with like invisible ink. And when they put the glasses on, they can see what the cards are that everyone's holding. And so all of a sudden, you're playing with this random NBA player.

Here, let that roll for a second. So they hold it up. Oh, come on, bro. But basically, they're able to see, so you can see there's a five on that. You can see there's a watermark, yeah. Yeah. And so when you have the glass on, you can see.

So all of a sudden, you're sitting down with insert famous NBA player. You're like, man, I'm at a table. I'm playing this guy, da-da-da-da. he's putting in huge, you know, blinds, like, all right, let's play. And all of a sudden, he starts winning hands. And then that's how these illegal poker games were, like, getting these guys in. They're like, hey, you're going to come play.

We're not going to give you any money up front. But if you know how to play cards a little bit, put on these glasses, you'll be good. Whatever you make, you can keep. No shit. And they would bring these guys in as, like, you know, fishes to make everyone else, you know, come in also and give their money away. Crazy. That's a good bait and switch kind of tactic right there. Yeah.

You think that they, all of a sudden, he's playing on the house's team. So the house has got the advantage. And everyone's happy. Crazy, right? That is organized crime at the end of the day. It's a way to... Very organized. That's what a racket is.

Yeah. Guaranteed income. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like the city took over a lot of the mob's rackets, but that gambling is still definitely one of their rackets for sure. So before we dip, what else has happened in the underbelly of Vegas that people don't notice?

We talked about, obviously, human trafficking, prostitution, illegal gambling, all of that. Is there anything else that you've seen or witnessed that is, uh, that you found interesting. The rich are always untouchable. The rich are always untouchable. And that's just how it is. Having driven around some really exclusive clients in some of these neighborhoods, I mean, some of these gated communities in Vegas cost $300,000 a year HOA.

300 grand just for the HOA. Wow. Obviously they have magnificent golf courses and everything else and the houses look like fucking hotels. But that kind of level of power, I think you're kind of immune. to a lot of shit. Like, you don't really, there's certain crimes

or there's certain things that totally get looked over once you have that kind of money. And I think that resonates to rich people everywhere, but you see it a lot more in Vegas. Like the police concentrate on Vegas. Summerland, Henderson,

where most of the rich people live, private security, things like that. Nobody's really getting policed. So in those areas, as far as human trafficking and stuff, it's a lot more quiet than the strip. So you can have someone like myself who shuttles six young girls

up to a mansion in the hills for a party. A lot of the times these parties have reputations for sex parties and elite sex parties of the elite, people like that. And that's as far as I'll go with it. Whoa. Yeah, that kind of level. Talk about freak-offs?

Like the ditty shit Like that kind of stuff I guess you could say Like all these high elite people That you would never imagine That would go to these kind of parties I've chauffered them there back and forth And you kind of know what's going on

It's not like I said You know it's almost eyes wide shut kind of shit It's like all these rich people And nobody's there to police them Who's gonna police them? They are the fucking police They are the elite It's really like that

So you pick up someone at some nice hotel And they go take me to this place It's four or five people in the car You recognize two of them off real because you're like, I've seen these people, they're famous, and we're going to some house. Or I recognize someone that I've picked up that I know is a known prostitute or a worker going to this place. And then they're pulling up and there's ten black cars outside dropping people off, all going in, you know, 11 o'clock, 12 o'clock at night. Famous podcasters.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Come on, I was not there, but I had nothing to do it. Oh, thank you. Thank goodness. You know what I mean? Like people like that, like very people who are recognizable in public go to these parties. And sometimes there's no phones allowed. You know, sometimes, like I said, I bodyguarded for some of these people.

So, you know, I'd have to be on point. And I saw certain things. It was just like, you know, the rich get away with what they want. You know, there's nobody to police them. So there's certain crimes that might happen on the strip. Like you said, the prostitution, the drugging, the underage, this, that, and the third. When it goes on behind closed doors, nobody who, who's going to report it.

And even if you do, who's going to listen? Well, Tony Hernandez, you're a legend, brother. I appreciate you always coming through until next time, man,

yeah, telling us the stories, bro. This was great. Honestly, I think opened up my eyes in a lot of people's eyes to,

yeah, how some of the stuff happens out there. I think people look at, at least I did, where it's like, yeah, you know, there's crime, but you know,

everyone's getting their little thing, and it's kind of, you know, it's kind of regulated, sort of. There's a darker side that I don't know if people always realize.

Yeah, yeah, man. That petty girl who you might think is on the corner. She's not there because she wants to be. She's there because she might have to be. Yeah. Well, Tony, until next time, brother. Thank you so much. I appreciate it, brother. And remind me your channels. Corruption connection. Yes, everybody go check it out. I'm on YouTube, TikTok. This November, we're in November right now is the, I believe it's the 30th year anniversary for the movie Money Train. It's a, um, a, A movie came out in 1995 about two plainclothes anti-crime transit cops. A lot of things they did I did in my career, so I'll be doing a recap on that. So check out on my channel. Fire. And also check out the other episodes Tony and I have done. We dive into your family history with the French connection and organized crime. And then obviously your time is a transit cop and what you've seen there.

And how people can stay safe on the trains. Thank you so much, brother. Thank you, man. Let's do it against you. Appreciate it.