Camp Gagnon - Goblin Ranks Every Drug On Earth (2024 Tier List)

Episode Date: November 4, 2024

Goblin is the go to guy on YouTube for all things, you know. He has an awesome YouTube channel where he discusses his journey and path to getting sober, and has some truly wild experiences along the way. WELCOME TO CAMP! Grab the Merch Campgoods.co 🏕️ JOIN S'MORE CAMP INNER SANCTUM HERE (FREE): https://camp.beehiiv.com/ Thanks to our sponsors Morgan&Morgan Whoop - Visit https://Join.whoop.com/Camp for a ONE MONTH FREE TRIAL with Promo Code: CAMP Bluechew Intro by Brandon Raymond Episode and production by Christos Papastefanuo TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 Intro 1:11 Meeting Goblin 3:54 Mark’s BIGGEST Secrets 5:51 Inside Goblin’s Early Life + High School 10:44 Substance of Choice + Finding X*nax 17:16 First X*nax Experience 23:09 First Coke Experience 27:20 Shrooms + Weed Helped 29:54 First Quack Experience + Smoking In Mom’s House 38:28 Drug Tier List 52:45 Tweaker Neighbor 55:39 Costco Vodka + Ranking Drinks 1:00:43 DUI Story 1:07:25 FOIA Report + Walmart Theft 1:11:26 Life After The DUI 1:16:31 Ranking Weed + 4,200mg THC 1:20:26 Paranoia on Weed 1:23:06 Variety of Weed + Sativa + Indica 1:24:56 Spray Weed + Terps 1:30:15 Delta 8 + THC-A 1:32:27 Salvia + Benadryl 1:33:58 Nitro 1:35:59 DMT + Ayahuasca 1:38:30 Near Death Experience + Fake LSD 1:42:23 LSD In Class + Turtle D**k 1:44:13 Vape Tricks 1:44:59 Ranking Opiates + Molly 1:46:54 Permanent Damage From Drug Use 1:48:27 Getting Robbed + Probation 1:53:23 Becoming Sober 1:56:47 Outlook On Life + Honesty 2:00:18 Relationship With Parents 2:04:26 Reflecting On Past 2:06:50 Next Time…Conspiracies

Drug addicts don't get addicted to drugs because they suck. They're fucking awesome. This is Nicholas Campana, aka Goblin. And I'm going to try to not get demonetized here, so forgive me. But Goblin is the most famous street chemist on all of YouTube. I know he looks like a lesbian substitute teacher, but he is the authority on all things pharmacy. He has consumed basically every different type of jelly bean known to man. And today he's even going to tell us the story of how him and his friends Googled how to cook jelly bean

and smoked them. Bro, we just kind of screamed. There's like roughhousing. There's a torch right there. We can make crack right now. We're not making crack in the tent, Nick. He even ranks all the jelly beans on earth and tells us which ones are the best

and which ones you should never, ever try. And he even explains his eventual journey to sobriety and how he lives a completely sober life today. Well, California sober. It was crazy. When I first gotten California sober, I remember thinking like, there's no way this is what it's like. Do you think you have any permanent damage from the reviews?

Oh, yeah. I'm kind of retarded. Anyway, sit back, relax, and welcome to camp. I'm fascinated by you. You're a very interesting human being. I appreciate that. Yeah, I found you, as we were just saying, through dope as yola, that podcast. That's the homie right there. Seems like a great dude. Never met him. But I just love the content.

And the thing that blew my mind in one of your very first interviews with him, you had said that you cooked and smoked croaked. I did. Yep, when I was 17. If you're not If you're listening at home And you're not watching You should tune in right now And you should look at

You should look at Nick right in the face Because you don't strike me as a crack smoker You feel like a substitute You know what I mean? You don't have a crack smoker energy I think that's throughout my life That's benefited me And helped me get away with a lot of shit

I did when I was younger Yeah Because when I was You know when I was a teenager I was a fucking menace So I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago Okay.

So, you know, I was just kind of hanging. I didn't grow up in a bad area or anything. I had a pretty good upbringing. You weren't a gang? No, no. Absolutely. I'm shocked. You know, I'd, uh, I had a pretty good upbringing, and I just, I don't know.

I was just misbehaving. Like, I just had it in me, you know? There was no, like. That's a good rebellion. Crack. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It is.

You could do much worse than that. I could have really joined a gang. Yeah, that's actually a good point. You got to tell your parents that. Tell him and be like, hey, mom, dad, I joined a gang. And they're like, oh my God, just be like, actually, I'm just doing crack. Well, now that I'm, I'm chilling and like, you know, this is kind of like my job a little bit. My mom's cool with it.

But back in the day, it was bad. Oh, I couldn't imagine. Oh, it was rough. And for anyone that doesn't know, you are, in my opinion, the preeminent drug YouTuber. That's quite the accolade. Now you are sober, California sober, if, you know, which means you do mushrooms, smoke weed and probably drink. Wheat and liquor. Yeah, it's all you need.

You don't do beer. Beer, that's too. Yeah, beer, you know, it takes too much. to get me drunk. I'm a bigger dude and like, I drink a lot of alcohol when I drink. Yeah, beer's not doing. So that's California sober, but in your past life, in your non-sobriety, you've tried just about everything. Yeah, I think it would be more convenient to name drugs that I didn't try than I did. And the things that I avoided when I was younger is I didn't smoke meth. I didn't do heroin and I didn't do like bath salts. Okay. Pretty much everything else, like Spice,

K2, you know, all the pills that you can name, the opiates, the benzos, you know, Coke, I smoked crack. Only one time, though. Yeah, you're not crazy. Honestly, I would be open to doing it again, but it would have to be cooked by someone who knows what the fuck they're doing. I'm going to say that much. My shit was not very good. So this is going to be fun for me.

We're going to go through all the drugs you've tried, go through all the craziest stories, the times you've gotten arrested, all that shit. Okay. I'm also going to share some of my secrets, okay? I'll just be up front with you right now. I smoked weed a couple times. I don't smoke anymore because we'll get into that. I start thinking about planets and shit.

And I just kind of, my brain starts to kind of freak out. You get anxious? Well, it's so weird because sometimes I smoke and I'm great. And I'm like watching a rest of development on the couch and my wife eating pizza having the best time. Okay. There was like, I was playing with the cat for like an hour. And I looked down, the cat wasn't even there.

You're a cat guy? I don't even have a cat. I was like, where did I even see it? No, I do have a cat. Okay, all right. Yeah, yeah. I was about to say, yo, that weed must have been fine. Yeah, yeah, I'll put you on.

I'll put you on. But no, yeah, we got a cat. It's a cool cat. She doesn't smoke. She's sober. But, you know, basically I was like, she's super down Earth, really responsible. But yeah, we had a good time. And then other times I'd smoke, and I would just be on a different planet.

I'd just be like, yo, where the f f f f am I? Like, I would get freaked out. I'd be like, you know, I got to go home right now. I would be breathing air like it was water. I would just be like, and every breath I felt like amazing. and then I'd breathe out and be like, oh, no, I need that back. And then I would just be that for like three hours and I'd go to sleep.

So not great. We can get into that. So sounds kind of shitty. Don't do weed anymore. I've done Molly three times. Three? Yeah. Why only three?

I did it basically once a year and I was like, I don't want to fry my brain too much. That's extremely responsible. Yeah. That's like- Too responsible. Yeah, you're very responsible. Yeah. So literally it was once a year and it was the best time ever. And then I was basically fine that week.

I didn't really have like too bad of a side effect. And the last time I did, I kind of disassociated a little. for like a week. And I was like, all right, I'm gonna be off this for a while. I think I did too much or something. And then I've done shrooms like twice. Okay. And those are awesome.

Those are awesome. So those are all my secrets. So you just kind of dabble in things. Like, you haven't really gotten super into it. You just tried your little bit. Well, that's why you're here today. That's enough. So you can put me on.

You know what I mean? Oh, I got you. So take me back to the crack story. How did you and your friends at 17 years old decide to cook and smoke? Okay. So I guess to, preface like the way that my drug use played out

you know is at the age of 17 I was doing pretty much everything under the sun but that was a fairly recent development my second semester of my junior year of high school I got kicked out of the primary school that I was going to because my GPA was like disgustingly low at a 0.8 GPA

that's hard to do it so yeah how do you do zero point it you have to fail more than you get D's in and C's like can't exist. And that was my, my grade sheet. But you're not dumb. So, like, were you just intentionally not doing anything? I didn't do any homework.

I didn't do any, like, after school work. If I did a test, I didn't feel like doing it. I would just write, like, random shit for the answers, you know? And you just didn't care. Yeah, I really didn't care. Did your parents care? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Oh, they cared a lot. Can you share what they do, what their professions are, more or less? My mom is, it's actually extremely ironic. My mom is a counselor for adolescent drug addicts. Bro. And my dad is a paralegal at a law firm. So. Two things that you may have needed at one point.

Yeah, 100%. I could use both their services. My mom in particular, yeah, could use her quite a bit. Yeah, yeah. They use her services a lot. And do you have siblings? No, I'm an only child. It's only child.

Only get the house. You're their one shot. Mm-hmm. I was all they had. And by like 13, 14, like, when do you smoke weed for the first time? I was 14. And you immediately were like, oh, this is the best. Immediately I loved it, but I didn't start smoking every day and really, like, living like that for a little bit.

It took a while for me to really get into that lifestyle. So then how do you go in three years to smoking crack? So once I got kicked out of my main school, up until that point, I only smoked weed. I tried Xanax once, you know? It was a very, like, very tame lifestyle I've been doing. You know, I'd taken some cold meds and gotten high off those a couple times. And then I went to this new school, and everyone there was a drug addict. And not like, oh, they party on the weekends.

Like, these kids are overdosing in the bathroom stalls and shit. So there was a, there was like a two-month period at my alternative school. And mind you, the whole population of the school was like 95 kids. So it's not like this is a big school. But there was like a two-month period. every week the ambulance was coming and someone was getting wheeled out of that school because they were passing out off whatever drug they were on and usually it was Xanax and this is a good school I imagine is in a good district is a private school no no all public okay but like it was in a good school district and in a school district that wasn't really like known for this kind of stuff and why was this like drug you so rampant in this high school um so all of the my theory is it's a way that my school district padded their like graduation rates uh But essentially what they do is they take all the bad kids, all the drug addict kids, and just cram them into this one school. And in this school, there was, like, no homework and no, like, no possible way to fail.

Like, I didn't do shit and I still passed. Gotcha. So it was a way for them to kind of, like, pad the stats a little bit. So they take all the kids that are kind of struggling on the periphery of all these other schools that might not graduate, jam them into this school, and then lower the requirements so that everyone graduates. Yes. hilarious. So now you have all the most troubled youth. Yeah. All in one building. And there I am with all of them. And now

are they doing other things other than drugs? There's like crime and fights and shit. Oh yeah. Yeah. A lot of these kids have ankle monitors and shit. No way. Yeah, they're one of my best friends back then. Ashton. He was on parole for or Grant Deft Auto. So he stole a car in his freshman year in high school. His kid's like 14. He stole a car, drove it around,

got caught, got put on an ankle monitor. And like, he's that young. He's 14 years old. Doing hood rat shit with his friends. Yeah, doing hood rat. shit with his friends, exactly. So it was like, imagine a school full of 90 of that kid. Wow. You know, it was chaos in there. So then whatever problems you had just got way worse. 100%. Yeah, I had access to like way better drugs, a whole array of new people that had never met before. And it was like all the drug dealers and criminals concentrated right next to me in all my classes.

Oh, this is perfect. It was awesome. I'm not going to lie. I was, I only lasted one semester at this school because I got pulled out after and then dropped out of high school. But that one semester, I went from like your average delinquent kid to full-blown drug addict doing everything under the sun. Oh, wow. It was bad. And that was the first time that I got sent to rehab as well. At the end of that year, I got sent to rehab in between like the end of that year in the summer. And what was your substance of choice at that time?

See, the weird thing about my drug addiction is I never really had like one substance of choice. It was always just whatever I could get. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was like, if it was Xanax, we're doing Xanax. If it was hydros, we're popping fucking hydros. You know, we're doing whatever we could get. That's wild. So you didn't mind the high from one or the other.

You just wanted to be blasting off somewhere. Yeah, I definitely had preferences, you know, like overall psychedelics were my shit back then. I didn't like cocaine and uppers when I was younger. I did when I was older, though. Like, once I grew up a little bit, I started to appreciate that. But when I was younger, it was all about the downers. It was all like Xanax, you know, if I could. could get like some, I don't know, something that combined with alcohol well because that was

cheap. Oh, so what was the first time you did to Zan? It was my first semester, my junior year. I remember it very well, actually. I was with my homie named Bob, and I'd gotten picked up by him, and we went over to this girl named Danielle's house, and we had a nickname for her. We used to call her Zaniel, because, like, she was just an animal. And I don't know, like, if you know a lot of people who enjoy Zanax,

but white women enjoy it the most. Like, they love it, bro. And they have a tolerance like no other. Like, normal people take, like, two Zans. They're out like an elephant. Yeah, like they're completely downside. They've been tranquilized, right? The proper white woman and, like, high-class white woman, too.

I'm not talking like white trash. No, like standard issue. I'm talking, like, not even standard issue. Like, we're talking like Kylie Jenner type white woman, right? Higher class type white woman. They can eat them and never stop. Skittles. It's crazy.

Yes. Yes. Yes. They can even never stop. So we go over to Zaniel's house. I mean, my buddy Bob is telling me, he's like, yo, have you ever tried Zanz? And I'm like, no, like, what's it like?

Tell me about it. And I'd never really gotten high off a pill before. At that point, I'd like mess with cough medicine a little bit and I'd smoked wheat. Like hard walk or shit? Or like Wark? Delsim. Okay.

Del sim. So, no, not that. Leans a whole different story. I was too broke for that shit. Okay. But no, I wasn't a rapper. If you're like me, you'd probably read a new story, and you're like, This is crazy.

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now let's get back to the show after the short disclaimer but we went over to this this girl's house and she had like two zanz left and she sold us one of them for like I don't remember how much but I know it was an exorbitant amount of money. Like it was too much. Businesswoman. Yeah, yeah, good. And she came up.

She came up. She probably went, about three more. Good for her. She was living, right? But we got our bars. And we dip out of Zaniel's, and we go over to my other friend's house. And we used to go to my buddy Cody's house and just sit in his garage and just get high. And his mom would be there, but she was cool with it because she'd always say, like,

well, it's better if you guys get high here than if you go out and do it on the streets. You know, so you might as well come get high here. So we always go over to his house and just get fucked up in his garage on like whatever we wanted. His mom would like bring us drinks and shit. She was like cool with it. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy.

She was super cool with it. We had like the alcohol moms in my town where it'd be like, yeah, you can drink in the house. Oh, yeah. But never like, you know, bar drop in the garage. Oh, yeah. We had the bar moms. I mean, we had, dude, we were doing cocaine in that garage. And she knew.

Yeah. She knew all of it. She ever took a bump? No, but she would just be out there smoking cigarettes and like, watching, you know, like she, she knew what was up. Yeah, yeah, you know, if you could tell if it was 20 years prior, she's tapped in. Wow. Yeah. That's crazy, bro. So you guys split a bar or what happened? Um, so we got over to my buddy's house and I popped the first one and I guess my buddy had like a few more or whatever.

Uh, I don't remember how many we grabbed off her, but either way, I popped my first one and I'd never taken Zanz before. I had no tolerance. I didn't know what to expect. So we start drinking. We had some liquor too and we're like, yo, like, let's pop the bottle. At this point, alcohol was my favorite thing ever. You know, I had just started drinking. So it was like a bottle of Jack Daniels was luxury to me at that point. Give me that shit. I didn't realize the interaction that Xanax and alcohol have.

I didn't understand that combining those knocks you the fuck out. So like, if you just take one Zan, you're gonna feel a little stupid, but like, you'll still be upright and like, funk, funk, right and like functional and like I'd still be able to have this conversation. If I pop a zan and then I took like three shots of jack, yo, I'm face down on this team. Like I'm out, right? So I learned that through experience. I learned that through drinking alcohol there and then going to the bathroom because I felt really nauseous

and I ended up just sitting in my homie's bathtub and like not turning the water on or anything, just sitting in that bitch. And I just passed out. And I was just laying in the bathtub and eventually one of my homies. came and he's banging on the door and he opens that shit and he comes in and he just starts laughing his ass off and I used to have the video I wish I still did but he

he just started like taking videos of me and like posting him on Snapchat. Just blood ass like I wasn't naked no I was so clothed just like sitting in his dry bathtub like I was just chilling in there you know it was just the comfiest place at the time you know it made me feel better it's probably a couch right for sure

yeah yeah I just walked out of that bathroom there was a way better situation but like I just couldn't think that far ahead. You know, I needed immediate relief, and the bathtub was in. And that's a hole that you can lay in. Yeah, exactly. It's kind of, you know, when you think about it, it's kind of like a couch, you know.

It's a good point, actually. Like, you've got armrests on the side. Yeah, that's true. There's an indent for you to sit in. And it fits your whole body. That's a good point. The couch does all those things, do you. Yeah, exactly.

No, that's actually, it's basically a couch minus, like, a tiny bit of cushion. Yeah, and fuck that shit. Yeah, right? Yeah. Yeah. If you're going to pass it on a couch, stop being a pussy about it. Yeah. Come on.

You know, you can't be picky. So you woke in the next morning and you were like, no, I didn't wake up the next morning. I got woken up by my friends coming in and like shaking me and being like, yo, like, what the fuck you do? And then taking snapshots of me and shit. So they came in and woke me up. And like, I just couldn't like, I just couldn't get up.

Like, I just didn't want to get up. I was like conscious and I knew that they were trying to get me up. But I was like, I don't want to. You know, this is nice. And that's the thing with Zana. It just kind of makes you like, for lack of a better word, it just makes you retarded, honestly. Like, it really does, you know?

It just, it completely fries you. So eventually I got up and I went back outside and we started smoking, we smoked a couple blunts. And luckily, the weed is like, it's perfect. You know, the interaction with weed and Xanax is wonderful. It doesn't fuck you up any further. So we smoked a couple blunts and I was like, yeah, like, I'm good.

I don't want any more. Like, I'm good on this, because mind you, I had drove over there. Like, I was the D.D. for my homie. And now both my homies are more fucked up than me. You're the drunk driver. That's the D.D. Yeah. And, I mean, I drove intoxicated all the time and I was younger, unfortunately.

You know, I drove on acid. I drove on Molly. I drove on shrooms. I drove on, like, everything under the sun. And, like, granted, I mean, I'm open about that. I feel like a lot of people lie about it. A lot of people say, oh, I never drove intoxicated. It's like, no, you did.

You had another beardy point. You're just lying. You're just kind of being a hoe about it, and that's okay. But, no, I'm very open about that. And it was fine. You didn't hurt anyone. You never got pulled over. I didn't hurt anyone while I was intoxicated. There you go.

I did, I do have a DUI. I did crash into a tree. Okay, we'll get to that. That's just me. Yeah. I only heard me. That's wild. So what happened the rest of the night?

The rest of the night? I mean, I just kind of like smoked it off, you know? It wasn't really that intensive an experience for me because the liquor just like completely knocked me the fuck out. It went from like actually being barred out. It's like, oh, I just slept in his bathtub for like two and a half hours. So then you were chilling. After that, yeah, I had a much better night for the rest of the night.

And then when does like cocaine come to the mix? So cocaine was something that when I was in high school, I dabbled in a little bit, but I couldn't afford it consistently. That shit was always like $100 a gram for the good. shit. So, and mind you, we're also like the white suburban kids. So it was $100 a gram all day. So, you know, it was just like out of reach. And it was something that like I didn't enjoy when I was younger because I wanted to feel stupid when I was getting high. And then as I got older, I remember specifically, it was like 2019. It was like beginning of the summer. It was May or so.

And I had just gone through a breakup. I broke up with this girl I was dating at the time. And I was like, yeah, I need some new drugs in my life. life. And I linked up with that girl Zaniel I was telling you about it actually. And at that point, she was no longer doing Zan. She was doing Coke. And she's like, yo, I have a fucking guy you need to meet. And it's a guy who'd been

serving her rocks. So I'm like, yo, introduce me to this guy. So we had a couple like, you know, middleman deals where I pulled up to Walgreens parking lot and she jumped out and you know, took my money and bought the blow. And then after like two or three times of doing that, finally she was

like, hey, like, you should just go get in his car, you know? So I was like, oh shit, is it? Like, I'm, I'm meeting the plug, you know? And I was, I was so excited because I was such a little fucking cokehead. I was calling this girl every day with like $200 and being like, yo, get me a fucking bag. Like, meet me wherever. Like, I'll buy you some, you know?

You're feet, wow. It was, it was immediate, you know, because it was like, at that point, I had more going on and more to be responsible about, you know. So I needed those drugs that made me clearheaded. and made me level and more focus. And that's kind of what pulled me into Coke at that point in my life. Because I was like, at least I thought to myself, like, I thought I was being more productive when I was doing it. So, you know, I started hitting this girl up every day,

and finally I meet the plug. And what actually helped me quit is this guy went to jail for like a very long time, not for selling Coke, for doing some very terrible shit and beating up his kids. What the fuck? And, but he had like a psychotic break and did it. It wasn't like he was just doing that on the regular. He took some like, the rumor is he took like a shroom bar.

No one really knows. But he took something that made him have a psychotic break and he beat his kid in like a vegetative state. And then went to jail for that. And after that, I was like, okay, I'm quitting. That was the moment. Yeah. Yeah. After he went to jail, I was like, well, he's never getting out.

I'm done. Wow. I'm fucking done. So maybe it was good then. Get him off the street cleaned. you're like, yeah, I'm awful. Yes, yes, they locked his ass up, and it helped me out a lot. Because it was, like, impossible for me to quit.

I just, I couldn't. I kept trying, I kept trying different ways to quit. And it got to the point where cocaine stopped being fun, and I stopped getting, like, the enjoyment and the euphoria out of it. And, like, I just kept doing it. And I'd never done that with a drug before. Normally, like, any other substance I did,

whether it was Xanax, it was like an opiate, or, you know, psychedelics or whatever it was, I'd always do it in, I stopped having fun and then I go do something else. Right. Cocaine, I did it until I stopped having fun and then I continued doing it after I stopped having fun. And then every time I did it, I would get so high,

I'd get scared because I was having heart palpitations and my heart was fucking dumping, and I thought I was gonna pass out and like have a heart attack. And I was like, yo, what do I keep doing this? And then I'd come down and I'd be like, oh, that's why I keep doing this, because I'd be fucking fiending. Wow.

Did you have withdrawals from it? Um, honestly, it was, it was, It was a lot of mental withdrawals. It was really, really difficult mental withdrawals, but I didn't have, like, physical withdrawals, really. I was super fucking irritable, though. Honestly, weed saved my ass. Like, if it wasn't for smoking disgusting amounts of weed

all day when I first quit, there's no chance in hell I could have done it. Wow. So it's a gateway drug, but it's also a gate out drug. It's a gateway to sobriety and a gateway from sobriety as well, however you want to use it. Wow. And so then at this time, you do shrooms, I'm sure.

Yeah, I started tapping in with shrooms a lot more when I quit Coke. Gotcha. When I quit doing harder stuff, I don't even know how to describe it, but I would have shroom trips where, like, I would just, like, come out of it and she'd be like, damn, I wish I was a better person, you know? And, like, I'd just be sitting there thinking so critically about myself and, like, the things I'd be doing in my life. And that's something that I never do otherwise, you know? But shrooms make me do that. So, like, I had a couple shroom trips that really helped me along that, you know, and now, like, now I'm clean. I don't do the coke. Wow.

And the shrooms helped in a way? I'd say so. Definitely, probably 90% weed, 5% shrooms, and probably 5% like a combination of video games. Probably jacking off more often. You have to, dude, you have to. and like going out to eat more. You got to fill up your time. You know, like, you got dopamine somehow.

Get the hit some other way. Bro. So I had reached a point at one point in my addiction where I was mixing Molly with the Coke and I was doing lines of those together. So I like completely fried my serotonin in my brain. So once I had like stopped doing Coke, I really struggled with, like, feeling normal, like, enjoyment out of things and, like, emotions, you know,

because everything felt very monotone, you know? It felt almost like my whole life was, like, black and white after I quit for a while. So it's, like, it takes a long time for your brain to reset. Yeah. After all that. And that's, like, a scary time to be in, I'm sure, because you're like, man, you know what would get me out of this? Some kind of. Dude.

Just one little, and you just fucking save. And you can just do a little, and then you'll, you know what I mean, it'll edge it off. But then you do a little and you're like, well, I got the rest of this bed. Yeah. And it's tough because, like, you know, even to this day, like, I don't fiend and sit here and just, like, salivate over the thought of it. But the thought crosses my mind every day of, like, fuck, just a fat-ass line would be so great right now. I don't want to make you fucking relapse in this tent right now. No, no, no, no, no.

Trust me. Like, I've dealt with this a million times far worse than anything right now, right? I'm more than willing to talk about it. Okay. But it's something that you just got to deal with every day. It's like, damn, cocaine would be awesome right now. Yeah. Can't do that.

You know? Can't act on that. So then how do you decide to do crack? I'm sure this is kind of around the period. So I had gotten out of school, and this was in high school. My junior year, I was 17. I got on a school, and I got a ride home from this girl named Peyton. And she drove me and my buddy Ashton back to my mom's house.

And my mom worked five. nights a week until 8.30. That was her schedule every single night. So pretty much every night, my homies would come over to my place. We get high to like 730, 7.45. Then I kick everyone out and turn all the fans on and point them at the windows to blow all the smoke out and then hope that my mom wouldn't smell it when she came home. You smoked in the house? Yeah. And it never, she never noticed? She was so pissed all the time. She noticed every day. It was just whether or not she would act on it. And my dumb ass thought I was getting away with it. Like on the days that she wouldn't act on it,

we had this whole conversation about this. Once I got older and got the fuck out of her house, she told me, she was like, you know, I knew what you were doing every day. And I was like, really? Like, I thought I got away some days. She was like, fuck no. But it was really just whether or not she wanted to act on it.

Because I was just the most stubborn fucking asshole of a kid. And so I was like, fuck it. I'm just going to, you know, spoke a little closer to the window today. She probably won't smell it. That's crazy. That shit stinks, bro. I'm sure the shit you were smoking, too,

is not a little reggie fucking dirtweed. Oh, we smoked some reggie for sure. Yeah, we smoked reggie back then. I don't think I started smoking good weed until like, I didn't really start getting serious about smoking good weed until I got sober from, like, Coke and all the hard shit. Yeah.

Because for me, weed was more of like, I wanted the most bang for my buck. I wanted the Costco wholesale-ass weed, you know, the fucking cheapest I could get so I could spend the money on the grubes. good drugs, you know, the Coke, the other shit. We was just like a supplement. So you're ripping in your house until 745, responsibly, very punctual.

We just somebody I gave you a compliment for earlier. You got here exactly on time. Dude, I'm very punctual with time. So 745 rolls around, you're like, yo, fan up, get out. Yep, we got to get the fuck up out. So everyone leaves. So before that, though, the smoking crack part. So everyone did leave at 745 that night.

Smoking crack, you'd probably imagine that this is like a really like, you know, a big commitment of time, right? You're probably imagining, like, going from not knowing anything and not having crack to cooking it and smoking it. Probably takes a while, right? Yeah. It was like maybe an hour and a half,

like the entire process. So we got dropped off by this girl who drove me and my buddy back to my place, called another friend of mine named Kyle, and I was like, hey, you should come over, like, let's sash or something. Let's figure out what we're going to do. So he walks over to my house.

He lived like a couple blocks over. It's the three of us chilling out in there. My buddy had brought a big bag of blow over because he was the plug at that point. So not the plug is in, he had like bricks or anything, but high school standards. You know, this guy had more than two grams of coke. So that's the fucking plug, you know.

So we're sitting there and we're like, we're kind of bored of this shit, you know? Like, we've been doing these casual bumps after school and like in the stall during lunch, like, every day. And we were just kind of bored of it, but we didn't have any other drugs on us. We didn't have anything but coke and a little bit of weeds.

So it was like, fuck, what do we do? You know, let's fucking cook crack. And it started off as a joke. Like, what about my buddy Ash? And he threw it out. He's like, we should cook crack. And it was like, ha-ha, like, yeah, that would be awesome, wouldn't it?

And it's like, that would be kind of awesome. Bro. Wouldn't it? You know? And we kind of like, just kind of joked about it a little more. Like, damn, I wonder how easy it would be, you know? We're all, like, talking about it. And then we realize, like, we should look it up.

You know, like, we should Google it. So we did. And we found, I'm pretty sure it was on Eeroid. It was on one of the, like, big drug forums from back then. You literally could just Google, like, how to cook crack. And there was just a tutorial. There was, like, a minute and a half long video of how to make a personal serving of crack in a spoon. So you don't need, like, a pot or anything.

It's just if you want to make enough to pack one bowl and smoke it, you can do that with nothing but a spoon and a lighter, some baking soda, some water, and your Coke. And that's it. What the fuck? So it's super easy. Like, technically, I mean, there's a torch right there. We can make crack right now. We're not making crack in the tent, Nick. We're not making crack.

My bad. We're not fucking making, dude, I'm trying to get off crack. Okay, we're not, we can't smoke crack in a tent. I'm sorry, dog. I'm sorry, dog. I'm a bad influence, bro. You're a bad influence, bro. I'm a really bad influence, bro.

Fuck. But either way, um, so we, we followed the tutorial to a tea, you know, and after you cook up what you got to cook up in the spoon, I'm not going to get you age-restricted, so I'm not going to get too detailed. You've got to put it on tinfoil and freeze it, and you've got to let it sit for a little bit, because then it solidifies,

and then it turns into the rock that you can smoke. So we make our little mixture. You know, we poured on the tinfoil, we throw it in the freezer, and we realize, like, we don't have a crack pipe. So, like, how do we smoke crack? So we pulled out some tinfoil, and we made a little tinfoil crack bowl,

and then we smoked it out of that. So my buddy Ashton went first because it was his Coke, and then I went second and my buddy Kyle went third and the way that I describe it is like imagine

you never tried Coke have you? No oh fuck okay I'm so used to describing it to drug users okay all right you ever take an adderol? I did half an adderol one time

it's kind of close yeah it's like it's like imagine you took like quadruple the dose of adorole you anticipated, except it was all really fast acting and lasted two minutes instead of, like, hours. Whoa. So, like, imagine the full effect of that Adderall that's normally spanning over hours

is just, like, all condensed into this two-minute time frame. So, like, I'm talking two minutes from come up, peak, all the way, come down. Like, it doesn't last any time at all. And granted, we probably cooked trash ass crap. So, like, maybe if you got that good ass rockets last and longer, but our shit sucked, and it didn't last very long. And so what did you guys do for two minutes in the kitchen? It's my crap.

Bro, we just kind of screamed. And, like, I remember I looked at my homie Kyle, and we just kind of yelled at each other and I punched my mom's cabinet. Like, there was, like, this cabinet, and we started body boxing. And we just started fucking hitting each other in the body and shit and just fucking around. We were like, yo, like, let's fucking go. Just like roughhousing and shit, you know? And then after that, we kind of come down a little bit.

And we went downstairs and we were like, yo, We should go to McDonald's. Like, we should go fucking, we should pop out, do some shit. Let's get active. She went and hopped in the car and just fucking drove off. Like, we went and hopped in my mom's little hot to CRV and she cruised on a lot. Did you clean up? Did you clean up the crime of the scene?

Scene of the crime? Kind of? Not really, not well enough. My mom found the remnants and shit. She came home and was like, oh, they were cooking crack in my kitchen. She found the spoon. What the fuck? By this point, my mom was so done.

Like, this didn't phase her, really. That's crazy. She was, I was such a, and I've repented for this. Like, I've definitely, over the years, I've been like, yeah, listen, mom, like, let me take you on a little trip or something. Yeah, she needs a house, bro. She needs a house. Yeah, working on that.

But, yeah, by that point when she had found it, I remember I was really expecting, like, I thought like, wow, this is it. Like the cracks, this is it. You know, it's over. Mom's throwing me out. sent off to some fucking pasture somewhere. Yeah, I'm gone, right?

And she didn't do shit. Like, I didn't get grounded. I didn't get, like, in direct trouble from that incident or anything. Was there a conversation? Was there, like, a sit down? No, not really. There was, like, a more of a passing,

like, she would do this kind of passive aggressive shit. So she'd, like, put the spoon on the counter, like, dried off, you know, like, on a paper towel. Like, I'd be going to the kitchen to, like, get a glass of water, and I'd see that.

and be like, oh, crack spoon. But then nothing would happen. Yeah, no, she wouldn't do anything. And you went to school the next day and you were like, man, I was crazy. That's how both of my parents were. My parents were divorced, so they parented, like, separately, but very similarly. They were both very passive aggressive. So I got away with a lot of shit that way.

Whoa. That's crazy. And this might be a great way to start off the drug tier list. Okay. So I think now we've kind of put some some some things on the table So you do these every year I think they're I do they're awesome They're like they're so interesting the annual list does it change much year to year? Yeah, it does honestly because If I'm being real the list is made entirely all vibes

I don't have like a like a formula there's not like a official ranking system sometimes I contradict myself on that shit It's just vibes you know so I mean let's start with some of these vibes where did like crack where where where does that rank would you recommend? Crack's pretty low because like it's a bad combination. It's like the worst traits of your favorite drugs, right? So like the worst things about Coke, the fact that it's short acting, make that 10 times shorter. You got crack, right?

It's still expensive because the main ingredient in crack is still cocaine, right? So if you want good crack, that shit's tax, right? Crack is shitty, crack's like, probably D tier. So what's the benefit? Why does anyone do crack? That's kind of a good question. I've wondered, like, where do crackheads come from? Like, how do you get in that cycle?

It's got to be like... Because you're... I'm assuming you're probably just buying straight up crack. But is it easier, like, can you cook more? Like, can you get more bang for your buck if you, like, cook it over a larger thing or some shit? I mean, crackheads, like, I don't know. I mean, there's no way that the chef is passing those savings

along to the customer either way, though, you know? Yeah, right? But I'm assuming, like, I don't know, if you're a dealer, you can maybe make more or some shit? I don't know. There's got to be a reason. There's got to be some good industrial, like, crack machinery at this point. Oh, for sure.

There's no way. Yeah, there's no way, right? They've got to be outsourced. I don't know. They must be, like, drop shipped or something. It's got to be some type of operation, right? I don't know. You think, like, I mean, is crack popular, like, anywhere anymore?

Like, where are the crack heads? I don't know. I mean, that's the thing. It's more of, like, a term people use, right? Like, you'll see someone tweak it. You're like, oh, it's crack hit. But you don't even know what that is. He might be like, you don't even know.

that's offensive. I don't do crack. I'm on PCP. Damn, you gotta be mindful of that. Yeah, right? You don't want to mislabel crack. Yeah, yeah. I don't do fucking crack. I do math. Yeah, I'm stealing this TV for meth. Like, I'm not, you know what I'm saying?

I'm curious, did it explain crackhead behavior? Um... You punched a cabinet. Did it do damage? I mean... Did you dent the cabinet? Not like noticeably, really. It wasn't, it wasn't like crazy. Okay.

You know, it was... I mean, that would have probably why... up my mom more than the crack itself. Yeah, exactly. Like, because crack is just affecting you. Don't mess up the decor. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. You know, and like, when my mom went to resell that little condo, you know, it's not like she had to

disclose that crack was cooked in there. No, that's not an... Normally, they have to, like, condemn the property when that happens. Only if it burns it down or some shit. Well, I mean, think about it. If there's, like, a crack lab in a house, you know, like... Yeah, you don't have a lab. Come on. You didn't have a lab. You were trying to gas in it up. You were trying to get, you were trying to take more credit, okay?

You guys were a mom and pop crack operation, okay? Yeah, this was not. Small bad. Small bad. Yeah, it was boutique. It was boutique. That's what it was. So, okay, crack rank's pretty low.

Cocaine, I'm assuming it was a little higher. Cocaine is a tough one because, like, my personal ranking is much higher than, like, my logical ranking, you know? The, you know, my reasonable self says the highest you should ever put it is B tier because it's expensive as fuck. and it doesn't last very long and being addicted to it sucks a lot worse

than being addicted to some other drugs and I hated the nosebleeds the nosebleeds were probably the worst part so... Yeah, can't you like collapse your nose or some shit? Dude, so my nose is still very like loose you know like my shit really yeah you see my nose really is

fucking I can fold it up and shit just like very casually what's in there just loose cartilage from a lot of cocaine Why does it do? That's crazy, bro. Yeah, look, I can... Can you look that way and do it?

Bro, that's wild, bro. And it doesn't really hurt. I don't really feel it. You'd be a good boxer. Yeah, I know. I could get rocked right here. Yeah. This is just padding.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You'd bounce back from that way. You'd feel good. You'd be like, oh, you'd probably loosen up some coke in there. You'd be like, oh, I feel great. Ooh, get a little leftover bump. Yeah, fucking marinating in there. Spinal tap shit, dude.

You got some leftovers. But deep down, the passion. part of me says that Coke is probably like top of A tier. You know, I love it. I'm never going to sit here like drug addicts don't get addicted to drugs because they suck. You know? They're fucking awesome.

Did you ever get in trouble when you were doing some, some booger sugar? Like legal trouble or like? It's like getting to shenanigans. I got into more shenanigans on Xanax than I ever did on blow. Okay, so where does Xanax right? I love this little fox, dude. I love them. But like I hate them because I love them. Yeah. Like,

Honest to God, probably also detere because, like, they're the, they're like the sleeper hit. It's like, you don't even realize how bad a Xanax addiction is until it's, like, way too late. Because Xanax, the withdrawals from this shit are bad. You can have seizures if you just cold turkey. So, like, you have to wean yourself off really slowly. And, like, that's a difficult thing to do because if you're weaning yourself off and you're still taking it every day, it's a matter of just like grabbing another one and popping

it because you still have it right there. Yeah. So it's hard to quit. That's gonna put it low. That's a con. D for sure. Because also, you know, now that I'm a little older, I like clear-headed drugs. Yeah.

I like drugs that I can still think. And Xanax just makes me so stupid. Yeah. I hate it. Yo, Curveball that I haven't seen on your list from this year or even last year. That's Hura. I haven't done that.

Have you heard of it? I am familiar with it. This is the most crazy drug to me. Definitely on my bucket list. I play on doing like a kind of psychedelic run, you know? How do you heard it just makes you like insane?

I mean, hold it down. Fucking hold it down, man. You know, just lock in. Don't, you just can't go crazy, you know? Yeah. Just don't fold. That's a good point, dude.

Just don't give in. Just like keep fighting. If you give in and go crazy, then like, yeah, you're going to go crazy. You're going to be crazy. But if you just fucking. But I've heard of people that have done this. I've heard, like, I've read stories.

What's that site that you mentioned? Arrow, Arrowwood. Arrowwood. Yeah, I was reading stories on there were like these guys, basically like, you get it from like these seeds, from this plant that's like pretty ubiquitous. Like the plant's just out there.

You can get these seeds, you kind of like boil them, cook them, whatever the fuck, and you like smoke this thing. And all the stories I read were like, yeah, after the first one, it's just a descent into madness. It just makes you crazy. You start seeing shit.

There's like shadow people all around. Like, it just seems like there's like No redeeming benefit. It just makes you crazy. I feel like if you feel yourself getting too much of an ego, you know, you're getting too ahead of yourself. You got to humble yourself by just like taking a scary drug. You know?

Freak yourself out of it. There's some benefit to that I could see, you know, like Elon Musk would probably do that drug and come out of that and just be a very like docile man. Because he's already on 10. Yeah, he's on 10. He come out of that on 5. Oh, okay. Okay.

So I think... Dude, I talked to a guy on this show that said he did that, in a jungle. Like, he, like, found it and, like, did it, like, they do them as, like, ceremonies and, like, certain, like, indigenous cultures, like, Central Central Southern. Yeah, it's a very, like, deep spiritual thing for some cultures.

He did it with his boy and his friend, he, his story, never came back. Really? Like, he, like, he, like, he kind of came back and he was like, all right, and his friend was just, like, forever. And I was like, that's enough for me. Like, I'm good on that one.

That's just, I mean, I feel like, those are kind of the dicey role with any psychedelic drug. Yeah, I guess. Like, if you just have the trait that makes you crazy. There was a kid I knew like that in high school who tweaked like that off acid. He just dropped acid one time, had a really bad trip and went like full psychotic. And now like he can't smoke weed or else he'll have acid flashbacks and we'll start freaking out. So changed his life permanently. Is he good now? If he's sober, he can, he's better. Yeah. He's like functioning, but he still can't smoke weed. Whoa. So. And in, in your world, you're like, dude, you're basically mental, you know,

You can't smoke weed. Like, you're fucking, your brain is broken. Oh, my God. I couldn't, you know, I don't know. Like, my mom asked me all the time. She's like, when are you going to quit smoking weed? And I tell her, I'm like, Mom, you're lucky. I quit as much as I have.

Can I have anything? Can I be happy? Yeah, let me get something at least. Yeah, right? Okay. You said you had never done heroin, but it's on your bucket list. If I, let's, if my doctor walked in this room right now and said, you have stage four cancer, I'm shooting up.

up heroin for sure 100% what has stopped you from doing it thus far i'm not dying yet okay straight up that's like you know if i get diagnosed with a terminal illness i'm doing my doing my rounds you know i'm doing everything i haven't tried yet but right now i don't want to fall down that path you know i feel like i have a strong enough willpower i could probably just like snort a little heroin and be chill but i don't think i want to try that yeah you know You feel like it's just too addictive. I know that it's probably great. And I have a friend who used to do a ton of heroin.

I have a couple friends who did, actually. And one of them's dead now, and the other one's homeless somewhere in Philly. What the fuck? So I don't want to do heroin. Yeah, bro. But, like, there's that doctor that one in Rogan. I afraid his name. He's like a professor somewhere, maybe some Ivy League.

And, yeah, he's like, yeah, I do heroin on, like, the weekends, maybe like twice a year. And he's like, I just casually do heroin. I was like, whoa. I guess some people can just. fuck around. I feel like the risks just outweigh the rewards so heavily on that, you know? It's like, what do you need the heroin for that you can't achieve by just getting like really stone? You're being way too reasonable right now. This is a super, this is what I would say. Yeah, well, I don't know. I figured you'd be the guy, be like, yeah, give it a whirl one time.

Get into some of the drugs I like more and then we're talking, but like the heroin I'm very reasonable about, you know, the heroin I don't really fuck with. Meth. I've probably accidentally done meth like five to ten times. How do you accidentally do meth? I mean fake Molly, you know, that's a very common cut. Yeah. So I've probably done meth like a handful of times. Can you tell?

Have you ever been with a girl who does meth? Like a tweaker girl? Brother crazy as fuck. They're nuts. Girls that smoke meth are fucking cooked. Who are you dating the smoked meth? You don't have to say her name. I mean, she was, she was a nutcase.

She was a nut case. Before the meth? After the meth, post-math. Okay. So it, like, permanently altered, you know, her life cycle, that math. And how long were you guys dating for? Not very long. Not very long.

It was, it was one of those things, you know, I just had to dabble. I just had to see what was going on there. Was she good in other ways? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, the meth. Yeah. It stacks up.

Yeah. It's got its benefits. She learned some things in the trap. You know, in the trap house. I know that much. But for me, meth was one that I never did either because, like, honestly, I think I was just lucky that none of my friends were into it. You know, because on paper, it's the kind of shit that I'd probably love.

You know, it's a clear-headed drug. Like, meth heads get a lot of shit done, dude. They stay out for seven days at a time. They'll clean their whole crib. You know, they'll be repairing shit. Yeah. So, like... Yeah, you had some meth heads that lived near you, right?

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A bunch of crazy stories. We'll have a great time. You can find the link at my Instagram. Get it in the story. I'll put it in the description. I can't wait to see you guys there. Let's get back to the show. Bro, my old neighbors were meth heads,

and they'd be smoking that shit in their shed all night long with the door open. And they had this little fucking crotch rocket motorcycle that they'd work on all fucking night and they just rev it and fucking start it and like stop it and start it again all night in my fucking bedroom window so imagine this right here's like my crib my bedroom window is like right here at the front right right outside of my window is two fucking tweakers revving their crotch rocket 50 times an hour at like three a m behind them is a shed with three more tweakers all hitting the pokey and their speakers really loud

and it's also still 3 a.m. So like I hated that neighborhood, bro. I hated that place. That shit was cheap though. Yeah. I paid $1,100 for a three-bed house. Oh, you were living there alone? Bro, that shit was lit. Oh, wow. Yeah. I had my own crib. I was posted up.

This is after I had gotten kicked out of my parents' house. I got kicked out of my mom's house because I got a DUI. So it's just like, fuck, I'm on my own now. Now is alcohol induced? Yes. So where does alcohol rank on the tier list? I'm very fond of alcohol.

I'm fond of alcohol. Yeah, it's up there. I mean, fuck, dude. Probably, for being real, dude, like, hangovers are the only reason it's not ass. Yeah. Hangovers are the objective only reason it's not as. Because being drunk is so fun.

Yeah. It's just, it's so wonderful. Yeah. Yeah, the way I describe alcohol, like, I have actually a handful of friends, never drank and they're always like what's it like like we actually went to abodab. Never drank? We went to Abu Dhabi and we did shows over there and we would hang with these emirati guys.

Oh, okay. And they're literally and they're like, yeah, I've never drank. They're like 25 years old, like, never drank, what's it like? And I was like, it's like taking a break from yourself. I was like, you kind of just gets, you get, just like a little bit of distance. Like you're still you, but you kind of just like, you can take a break from like, I feel insecure about talking to this person, oh, I'm talking too much, I'm talking too, like, you just, you take a break from all the things that like, you just, you take a break from all the things that, like,

like in your brain to make you think about you. You know what I mean? So I was like, yeah, that's the benefit of alcohol. But now I- I just drink with Jesus drink. I'm like, I'm on my wine. I just, I just go into like natural wine. Red or white?

It depends. If it's like with dinner, go red. But if it's like a little like daytime, like, yo, let's get a glass, go white all day. Okay. My boy put him out of Shabbly. You ever had a Shibli? There's like a dry, dry white wine.

It's great. That's been on my whiskey kick lately. Oh, really? Like nice whiskeys? I wouldn't say super nice. I just go Raid, Costco. Like, whatever they got in that aisle. Yeah. And that, that's pretty good though. The Costco shit, they don't tell you that. They have some amazing shit and it's like $30 a bottle and it's

store brand. I've heard a little inside tip. I don't know if this is true or not. Someone told me this that the Costco brand vodka is just Grey Goose rebottled. Someone told me that. It's funny. You mention that because their vodka is like the only bottle I buy. Yeah, it's on and I think you're right. Like it's this, it's the same fucking thing as Grey Goose. Yeah, we've got in and shit and just like, pour it in a new wallet. It's $20 for a handle. Yeah, it's a no-brainer. Bang for your buck if you're a responsible drunk out there.

Dude, I... Oh, my God. Shout out, bro. Costco is ass on the tier list. Yeah, that's number one. That's a drug in itself. That's number one. If it's like, yo, get a bag, like a little like, I don't know, like a little eighth of blow

or get a Costco membership. God. Costco membership or an eighth, be honest. I mean, if Costco started selling drugs, drugs, they're changing the game. Bro, the free samples? You pull up with the free samples, dude? Oh my God.

And imagine they give you, like, they'll front you. It's just like the plug. It's like, if you're fiending really bad, you've spent enough money there, you've earned enough rewards. It's like, yo, you can claim some of your cashback rewards and get fronted this eight ball. And then go get a hot dog for a buck 50. Yes, yes. Then you get the buck 50 hot dog.

$1.50 hot dog and drink. Yup. Ooh. Yeah, that would go crazy. They should look into that. What kind of soda you like? I'm like, I'm weird with soda. I'm weird.

Low-key, dude, I've never been like a Coca-Cola guy. Okay, I don't like Coke either. I think it's kind of overrated, to be honest. Like, and again, nothing against the Coca-Cola brand. I like other Coke products, like Dr. Pepper. Dr. Pepper is my number one. That's my pick. My fucking dog.

Dr. Pepper's my one. That's what I'm saying, bro. And you gave me the West Coast Dap. That's fire, too. You really are a fucking L.A. kid. That's, I mean, you know, it's, it's in me. Yeah. Yeah, a little cholo.

I've gotten the custom quick. Yeah, well, so fucker. But, yeah, I go with Dr. Pepper and then maybe I'll fuck around with, like, ginger rail. I'm not opposed to some ginger ale. Really? Or cream soda. Gingeril when you're not sick? Yeah.

Yeah, because I think I look at you. That's an adult show. I have, like, childhood, like, I have childhood connection to it because I would front to my mom that I was sick just to get free ginger oils. Because I couldn't really have soda, but if I had a tummy ache, I was allowed to have 42 grams of sugar. I don't know why. It didn't make any sense. But she was like, yeah, go out of ginger ale, though. That'll make you.

feel better. So you got a tummy ache every day? Every day. Yeah, yeah, severe tummy ache. And I was just crushing shit like Canada dries. I was just like going crazy. Mom was probably so concerned. Yeah. His fucking stomach is destroyed. Got ulcers or something. No, I'm addicted to sugar actually, turns out. So it's like that root beer. Dude, I think root beer might be like my number one. Oh, what brand though?

I actually did a whole taste testing back when I was in college. Don't say the wrong one, dude. I honestly, if it comes in a glass bottle, so like there's a couple brands, I can't thing of the name, there's a couple that come in the glass bottle. Yeah. And those shits just go fucking... The glass bottle is like a cheat code. Yeah.

It's very good. Same thing as beer, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Glass bottle, beer, you know. Facts. Same concept. Facts. And I remember I would, like, sit at the table and my family would be drinking beer and I'd crush a, like, a root beer out of the...

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That shit was fire. Act drunk a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd be like, I love you guys, for real. You guys are like my fucking family. They're like, we are your family. And I'm like, that's a good point.

I'm trying to think, though, like, A&W's fine. Low-key barks. Barks is your pick? I think that might be my number one. Really? Yeah. No, maybe, no, mugs. That little bulldog.

Mug is the bulldog. That's the answer right there. That bulldog. Mug is the answer. Yeah. I feel like, I mean, what are the other brands besides, like, the three that come to mind for me is it's Mugs, A&W and Bark. And then like... And then you get, like, the boutique ones, which again...

The Bougy ones, yeah, the glass ball. I go bougie. I go bougie. I'll spend fucking $10 for a six-pack. You know what I mean? I'm not above that. That's serious. If I'm having root beer floats with my little niece, you know what I mean?

I'm going to ball out. I'm not going to be stingy with her. Damn, I haven't had a good float in a minute. You remember the frosty floats? Yeah. Bro, have you tried the new, uh, the berry frosty? No, I haven't been to Wendy's in a minute. Dude.

It's the only reason to go. Well, you get the fries on the side to dip. Obviously, you're not a fucking scound. Their fries are washed now, though. Yeah, but you bathe them in a frosty, all of a sudden, it start tasting pretty. good. Sure, but I mean it's hard to bathe them in the frosty when every fry is flaccid now. That's a decent point. Honestly, it's a decent point. If you want to really come up, you do that and

then hit the Mickey D's this next door. And you go McDonald's fries on the frosty. Hit a two piece. If you can. And then depending on the day, maybe even a chick-fil-a waffle, and then you get to scoop. Sometimes we go chook-fil-a waffle in the milkshake. That's the fucking... Yeah, that's the math. Yeah, that shit would go go go crazy. That's my crack. You know what I mean? Like when people like, you know, you want to cook up and be like, yeah, I got all the shit. Let me go get the fries, let me get the milkshake, bang. Combination. I'm out here in New York and I'm just going to eat fast food the whole time.

Yeah, respect. The greatest food city in America and you're going to go fast food. I mean, you should have pizza. You've been in New York before. I mean, not since I was a kid and it wasn't really like, you know, the same New York experience. We're getting a slice after this a million percent. I'm going to take you to a spot. Fuck yeah.

Let's get it. Yeah, we got that lined up. Fuck yeah. But okay, so alcohol is pretty high. I agree. Alcohol is up there. I'm cool with that. But how did you get a D.Y?

Because this is the downside of alcohol. is sometimes you crash into a tree. This is the consequence. You crash into a tree, and then the tree falls on the corner of someone's house. But it's a light tree, so it doesn't hurt anybody. You know, it just hurts the house. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So it's a light tree. I love those. Those are my favorite types of trees. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just a chill little tree. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was, I was live streaming, actually, in my mom's basement, and I had a bottle of sarahawk,

and I was doing, like, shots for donations. So it was like, yo, you do. donate fucking $5 for porn up, you know? And I was a really good live stream. I got fucking drunk as hell. I drank like half the bottle of Sorok. And it was a fifth. It wasn't a handle.

So it was a lot of liquor, but, you know, I was able to at least stay upright with that amount in me. It was getting towards the end of the stream and I was hungry as hell. I was like, yo, I got the munchies. Like, Wendy sounds exquisite. And I don't know why I didn't like. order it, you know, I just, I figured the best course of action at that point would be to drink the other half of the bottle really fast, get in my car, go to Wendy's, get my food, and drive back really quick before the liquor hits.

Because if I can get home before the second half of the bottle hits, then you're enjoying it's good, drive faster. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I slam the, uh, the second half of the bottle and I end my stream and I go out to my car. And at this point, I was driving a car that I missed so fucking bad. old pimpmobile at a 1994 Cadillac DeVille. Oh, wow.

So it was purple, too. Oh, that is perfect. It was fucking amazing. I went and I hopped in that shit. And mind you, this is like 2017. No, this is 2019, actually. This is October 2019. It's pretty recent when this happened.

Yeah, yeah, relatively recent. So I go and I jump in my Cadillac and I drive to Wendy's and I get my food. And like, I'm still doing okay. You know, I drive there fine. I don't hit anything, you know, I get my food. I come home and I remember I made it home. And like, I don't remember exactly what point the liquor hit me, but I think it was as soon as I pulled in the driveway.

Because I got out of the car and I went to the open, like, you know, the keypad on my garage and enter my garage code. And I just couldn't do it. Like, I just could not fathom the garage code. I didn't know it anymore. So, like, I'm just entering numbers. And I'm like, fuck, man. Like, the garage is broken.

dude, like it won't open. And I could have just parked my car and walked around to the front door, you know, just gone around to the other side and walked in the house. Like, I had keys, you know. But I just didn't compute that, you know. I was like, yo, the garage code's not working. I guess I'm going to leave, you know? So I could have even just posted up in the caddy with the, you.

Yeah, I could have just, I literally could have just slept in the car. I could have just chilled in the fucking wit, right? So I get back in my car. I never even got to eat my fucking Wendy's, dude. I never even got to eat my Wendy's, right? I get back in the car, I back out of my driveway, I fucking hit,

I like scrape the side of my garage door, I scrape these two little, like, kind of like guard beams that separate my driveway from my neighbor's driveway. I back out, I get my car and drive, so like, I back out my driveway like this,

I pull out like this, main roads like curving around this way, right? I make a left back out onto this, road. And normally when I'm pulling out, I have to make a left and then a really sharp right in order to stay on the road. I made the left and just never turned again. So I made the left, went over the curb. There was this tree that had been planted pretty recently in my neighbor's yard that I just went straight over and the tree goes down and it hits the corner of their house. So my car like gets stuck over the tree and stops going.

Propped up probably. Yeah, yeah. So it wouldn't go anymore. And I'm still floor in it. I'm like not computing that I'm stuck. So I'm like revving the shit out of my car. The neighbors run outside and I see them in my headlights and they're like yelling some shit at me and I still didn't really understand what was going on. Do you know these neighbors? No, I'd never met them before.

Never seen them. Honestly, I maybe would have preferred that I knew them. Oh, because then they could have been cool about it. Yeah, maybe it would have been a little more chill, you know, like, because the damage wasn't that bad. It's just like your lawns ruined, man, and your tree's gone. But like, you know, like the

The house was relatively all right, you know? So they run outside and they're like yelling at me or some shit. The cops showed up fast as fuck. At that point, I was so drunk. Like, I don't really have a concept of how much time had gone by. But it felt like I saw these people and the cops just appeared, you know? So I remember the cops pulled up. It was like two or three squad cars that came.

And they, you know, one of the cops comes up to my driver's side door. And I just kind of like gave in. You know, like, I didn't, they didn't need to breath-elize me or anything. I was just like, yo, I'm drunk. Like, did you try to play, like, was there any party that was like- So wasted, there was no chance. And you weren't gonna hoof it. I couldn't stand.

Like, I opened the door, I got out of my car and just, like, started stumbling and, like, almost falling. I was wasted. So I was super fucked up. There was no chance of me, like, you know, lying my way out of this one. It was over with. So, um, they just handcuffed me pretty much. much immediately and took me the fuck up out of there. Uh, I spent the night in the jail cell and I had

no shoes and no glasses. Uh, I guess they had left those in the car and just not grabbed them. So they just took me there with no shoes, no glasses, and my phone was dead. And they wanted to let me go at 6 a.m. with like no ride and no contact or anything. I was just supposed to find my way home. Like, I had no glasses. At least in charge. I'm blind as fuck without my glasses. Really? Yeah. Like, if I took these off right now, all I can read on that wall is like Jimmy Hendrix right there. I can't read anything else on the wall. Can you see me?

Barely. I can see like the shape of you, but like I can't really make out your feature. That's my best feature, really. You might be better off without the glass. You have a good shape. Yeah, a good silhouette. So I had spent the night in jail and finally, you know,

anyone else in jail with you? There was like a couple other people in different holding cells, but like they were individual little cells that we were in. That's nice. So yeah, it wasn't bad, you know. I just kind of. fived on my little metal bench. Yeah. Got a mugshot.

Yeah, yeah. I did get my mugshot, which I've thrown on a bunch of t-shirts. Anything going through your head when you're getting the mugshot, like, oh, this is going to be I'm going to see this. Or were you just like... At that time, I mean, that was my first mugshot as an adult. So I was more excited about that one because I'd be able to get it. Yeah. The ones of me as a minor, like, even Freedom of Information Act, they're not giving you. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. You just don't get those.

Oh, wow. So, like, I put in a, the way that I got my mugshot, I did a video actually where I read over all of my, like, legal paperwork. I requested, I submitted a Freedom of Information Act request to the department that arrested me, like, every single time. And they sent me back 83 pages with everything, like all the reports they had that involved me, all pictures and, like, you know, evidence reports and that kind of stuff. But I only ever had that one mugshot from the DUI. Anything funny in the report to describe? Oh, there was, dude, there was so much stupid shit. There was one where, um, I was, I was, like, the worst fucking thief when I was younger.

I used to steal from every fucking Laker store, every grocery store, every, like, all the stores. Target, fucking Best Buy, you name it, I stole from it. Just like random little, like toys and shit? Whatever to make money, you know, or like, get hot. But you would try to flip it. Yeah, yeah. So, like, I would go to Walmart and, um, the first time I got arrested, like, for a serious

crime. This was a felony I got reduced to a misdemeanor in court. I would go to Walmart and I had a little little like you seen those plastic storage totes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I would get one of those and take the lid off and the barcode is on the outside and I go to the discount game bin when they used to have those load the fucking bin up like just fill up the bin in my cart put the lid back on go to self-checkout and buy the bin so I'd have a receipt and then I just walk out the door and normally it was like you know at my Walmart at least I lived in a nice area still at that point. So it was like a little special needs kid checking the receipt. It wasn't like a big security guard. Yeah, you got that. So then, all right, well, you bought the bin.

Have a good day. So I got away with it like twice or two or three times and it worked really good. And then the last time that I went, I just went for too much shit, I think. Like, I took like these little guitar hero drum sets and put them in there and shit. Yeah.

Flew too close to the sun. And they checked it. Yeah, they, so they went, they actually let me, like, out the first set of doors. And I was going to the second set of doors. And then they came up. behind me and just grabbed me by the shoulders. Whoa.

Yeah. And they were just like, stop. And by that point I was like, damn, it was this swole ass lesbian. Yeah, it was over. I had no chance. With the side cut? Bro, she, yeah.

You could tell, like, she was running that shit, like the military. Yeah, Marines. They were doing, like, when that Walmart was closed, they were doing drills around the aisles, for sure, like, under her command. That's crazy. So, Cadet Kelly grabs you, and then that was it.

Yeah, she grabbed me, and then they took me to the little room and, like, played back the, they gave a DVD of, like, like all the video footage of me filling it and walking out to the police and everything. So that was fucked. Were you nervous at all? Any of the other times you stole? No, because I'd be fucked up every time I went in.

Got. It's like I was never sober doing it or very rarely. Or if I was sober, it's like I was fiending so hard and like I was doing it because I was so desperate to get fucked up that it didn't even cross my mind. Yeah. You know, it's just like, I'm gonna get high after this. Bro, you used to be a real degenerate.

That's awesome. I was up to no good. That's wild. So you were just like just cop and DVD And you'd sell them at like GameStop? Yeah, so I'd go to like pawn chops or GameStop Or there was a store called Disc Replay That was like similar to GameStop, you know

Little Game Store But just wherever would buy them, you know I would never do like marketplace or anything I'd just sell it to stores Yeah, yeah, and you'd probably do them in bulk I'd just be like, yeah, I got this bin Yeah, you know, games Sometimes I would have to be careful

Because like showing up to GameStop And selling like six wrapped copies A Lego Batman is like a bad look You know Sometimes I could get away with like two and I'd be like oh yeah it's just me and my little brother's copy you know hilarious but like I could never do more than like two at a time so if there was little variety I'd have to like spread it out you know yeah okay so wait what happened with the rest of the die why you get let out

so I got let out I went home and I didn't really know what to expect because I'd never you know dealt with a DUI court wise before how do you get home you call your mom or something my mom pick me up thank God I just her phone number was the only one I remembered by heart at that point yeah so I just kept calling her off the jail phone. I was like, please give me one more call, bro. Like, I swear to God, she'll pick up at some point. She was livid, but she did pick me up. So she got me, took me home, and she said,

you got seven days to get the fuck out of my house. So I got up out of there. My homie's fucking drug dealing brother had a house that he was illegally sub-leasing three hours south of us. And he told us that we could go live there if we paid the power bill to get the power restore. Because he was like three months behind.

the power was disconnected and he was about to go to jail for a pending case he had so he was like yo if you guys sub lease it for me then you can keep the lease going and keep the power on so that when he gets out of jail you get somewhere to live so that was our plans we're like bet we'll go down there take this house it was this shit hole house with no heat no air conditioning no gas line connected so we couldn't use the stove or anything like we basically were just paying for walls on a floor and a roof right um but we moved into this house we were illegally sub-leasing so we were legally sub-leasing so we were we're we're when the landlord showed up on Christmas Day, he found out that it was not actually the tenant that was supposed to be there living there, but it was us getting high in that bitch and living like degenerates instead. So luckily, well, kind of luckily, I was like out of the house at that point.

You know, it was the holidays. But I came back and he had a dumpster out front. He was just throwing away all my shit. So I had to move out of that place, moving to another shit hole house that was nearby. Kind of bounced around like trap houses living like that for a little bit. Dealing with this DUI can.

case the whole time. Yeah, while I'm dealing with this DUI case, because I couldn't afford to get like a real living situation because DUI costs like $10,000. Yeah. You know, it's, it's, I mean, I paid over $3,000 just in fines to the court. Um, whenever you're on like court supervision or like probation, you have to pay for that every single day you're on that. So even if you're on like unsupervised probation, they bill you for every day of that because it's like their maintenance fee or like whatever they call it. So you pay for that. So you pay for that. as well on top of your court costs. Then you have to pay for your attorney, of course. You know, if you don't get legal representation, you're gonna get fucked. Yeah. And then you have to

pay for the classes that they mandate that you take. And the classes are like $250 an hour and they'll assign you like 20, 30 hours of these classes. So you'll end up spending like $15,000 on your first EY. Wow. So I was dirt broke dealing with this shit and my parents were not gonna pay for it. What about the house with the tree? Did you cover any of that shit? Um, yeah. So that's, that's, They ended up billing that because it was my mom's neighborhood. They billed that to my mom, and then I had to pay back my mom, like, over the years, because I just did have it. It was like 20 grand.

And then the car was just total. Oh, the car was done. So the worst part about the car, I had just gotten it a couple months prior. And when my mom had kicked me out, she'd give me seven days. My car was still in the impound lot from the D.Y. And there was, like, a hold period before I could go pick it up where they had to, like, go take their pictures and do their D.Y investigation, right? So the whole period expired and I go to pick up the car and I had to pay almost $800 to get the car out because this lot had crazy-ass storage fees. Yeah, of course.

And I kept asking them, I was like, is the car drivable? And they're like, yeah, it's drivable. It's good to go. Like, no problem. And I didn't have the money to get it fixed if it wasn't. So I give them like $700 something. I get in the car and it doesn't fucking drive. It just rolls.

Like it's stuck in first gear. The accelerator doesn't really do much. The engine revs, but the wheels don't do anything. So I'm like, fuck, I just got scammed. Like, I'm not going to get my money back, obviously. So this was the day that I was supposed to pack my shit into that car and drive three hours out to go live in that little trap house. So now my car for the road trip is done. So I'm like, fuck.

So I rolled it out of the tow lock because, like, I had to get it out at that point. I rolled it across the street and just left the keys on the seat and just fucking ditched it. Wow. So I don't know where it is. Someone probably like a method. I think a method. I think your neighbors probably picked it up and fixed it. Dude, it was a great car. I hope they fucking did. It had cigarette lighters and all the doors. Wow. Oh, I missed it. Power windows? You had a roll down.

It had power windows. Oh, actually. Dude, it was a nice win for 94 especially. Those DeVilles are kind of fire. And they're coming back too. You see people like souping them up now? Dude, so I've been looking on Facebook marketplace because I kind of want to get another one, but like one that, you know, isn't a complete piece of shit like that one. And they're expensive now. Yeah, yeah. No, they came up. It's like the Bronco. Yeah. You want like an old Bronco. It's going to be like 20 G's.

I mean, that's crazy. Yeah. So that's the downside with alcohol. Sometimes you get kicked out of your house. I guess, right? Yeah. Sometimes you crash into, you know, houses and then get kicked out of your own.

Yeah, and that happens. You know what I mean? So, I mean, we regret that. Probably should have done it, but we live and learn. You know what I mean? That's right. That's right. Okay.

Now, there's a couple things on here. Okay. Weed, edibles, sprayed weed. I didn't even run those quick I didn't even know sprayed weed was a thing So you take those three break them down however you want I can run those real easy So weeds an obvious S tier

Yeah Clear S tier It's the drug of all trucks It's like The only substance That you can just do all fucking day With minimal consequence relatively You know

And granted yeah you can argue sure It can make you more lazy You know It can make you ignore your responsibility It's definitely not good for, you know, achieving your career goals and, you know, maybe being responsible. But if you sit and you do cocaine or you smoke crack and you do meth all day every day, you're going to be on a street corner in like six months flat, right? You smoke weed every day.

You're probably vibing, you know, your shit might be a little messy. You know, maybe you need to clean your apartment. But, like, you'll be chilling. You'll still have an apartment, you know? So weeds 100% an S tier for me. It also helps me quit other drugs. You know, there's, you know, you can replace bad habits with other bad habits, but I don't view getting stone as a bad habit. So I was able to replace a lot of my bad habits with a less bad habit, which is getting stone.

So I hold weed in very high regard for that reason as well. Respect. Edibles are cool, but like, I just can't do it anymore. When I was younger, so I have a lot of videos on my channel. I've eaten like thousands and thousands of milligrams at a time. I've done like stupid edible doses. I did 4,200 milligrams on 420 a few years ago. 4,000?

Uh-huh, 4,200 milligrams. So it was 5 grams of RSO, and I just ate all the syringes on stream. Like, so what is like a gummy bear? Like when my friend's parents. A one gummy bear is like 10 milligrams. Bro. For like one gummy bear. That's an ins, okay.

So what happened when you took 4,200? I was tweaking for days. I was high for like three days straight. Yeah. I remember it was the first time where I thought like, damn, I finally did it this time. The drugs caught up, you know? I remember I woke up. The day that I took that dose, I was really high.

I don't get me wrong, but like, it was still under control. It wasn't until I went to bed and woke up the next day and was way fucking higher than I realized like, yo, I fucked up so bad. Like, I fucked up so bad. I felt dumb as fuck. Like it was like I had just taken like 10 fucking Zans and like slammed a bottle of jack and like hit my head against the wall a bunch of times in a row like I was slurring all my words I was speaking slowly like it completely fried me and I like I got nothing done for like three days straight. Were you scared? Yeah. When I had woken up that following day, I remember thinking like, dude, I think I fried my brain this time.

Like I think I actually gave myself brain damage. Like, I really thought I'd killed off a good, like, 20% of my brain cells at that point. So, that was, like, the last huge, huge edible dose that I, you know, ever did. I did a couple, like, thousand milligram doses since then, but, like, I've done nothing over 1,500 in, like, years because that scared the shit out of me. Yeah. And do you find the high is different? Smoking. Oh, dude.

You know, smoking, like, there's definitely a different high when you, when you smoke a joint. versus when you take a dab, but then taking an edible is like, it's almost like a different drug even. Like, it's not the same experience at all. Yeah. I don't find edible high as relaxing. It's almost like, you know, I mean,

granted my threshold is really high, so like I have to take a lot to get stoned off edibles. But for me, it gets almost like psychedelic. And I don't like that, you know. Yeah. I mean, that's kind of my problem, I feel like, and again, I don't know anything about strains or any of that shit.

So like if I smoke, even just smoke, I'll do like, like, my boy smoke all the time, and they're always like, hey, you want to look at weed. Because any time I smoke to them, I would literally just be like, and I would just be like, and I would just be like, genuinely, I think about planets. I'll like be like, yeah, why is Jupiter just up there, bro? Like, why is that shit just-

That's good though, like, you're getting your creative mind flow. But then I freak out because I'm like, why are we here? Like, why is this, why are, is this planet here? Like, we're really just like primates walking around. You know what I think about all the time? I always think about, like, when I get stoned, I think about what happens when I die, like, every time. Oh, wow.

every fucking time. And did you figure it out? No. I don't know. I ponder on it a lot. Does it freak you at all? I wouldn't say it freaks me out. No, I mean, I think everyone's due for it at some point.

So, like, it doesn't really scare me. You know, the way I think about it is, like, there's hell of people that went before me. So, like, the world's still flowing, so it must be right, you know? But that shit, I don't know. I got to get high and just start thinking about crazy shit and be like, I got to go to sleep. And then I wake up the next morning, feel like a little hazy. Yep. And then I'm like, I'm not doing that.

And then like a month would go by. And then something be like, you want a little puff? And I'm like, I'm gonna do less. And I do even smile like, and then, bro, I smoked with Dwight Howard one time. Okay. We were at this music festival. And I'm like, party, I'm doing my thing, having a great time. All of a sudden, I turn around, Dwight Howard's right there.

He's smoking a joint. You're probably like, what the fuck? I grew up in Orlando, bro. Like, I grew up- Oh, so that's huge for you. I'm like, this is literally Superman. Like, this is like my hero. I'm like, dude, this is the guy. And he passed me to joint.

At this point, I'm like, I haven't smoked wheat in like a year. I'm like, yeah, I don't smoke weed. You're not saying no. He passes me a joint, bro. You're not saying now. I fucking grab that shit. And I puff it. I'm like, immediately I'm like,

Dwight Howard hates me. And I was just like, Dwight Howard hates me, all these people hate me. Like, I'm like dancing. And like, people keep looking back. And they're looking at fucking Dwight Howard. But the whole time, I'm like, oh, they know that I'm so high.

You think they're all just looking at you and just being like, this guy's high, that fucking loser? Everyone's on, everyone's doing fucking meth. Like, they're looking at me to being like, who Dwight Howard knows that guy? Yeah. And I'm just like tweet. I'm just like,

yo, this is crazy. So I just like dance it off for like an hour and a half until eventually I come down and I'm like, never again. I think that was the last time I smoked weed. It was like a year and a half ago. You know, a good way to deal with that

to make you think of that differently in your head? Please. You're the only one that remembers that. Oh, by a million percent. Yeah. I'm going to meet Dwight Howard one day. I'm like, dude, you should have joined me. He's going to be like, no, I didn't.

It's going to be the most important moment in your life. And he's just going to be like, what? Are you good, bro? That's a good point, bro. Honestly, like, yeah, that's actually a great point. I'm the only one that remembers. Because I don't know.

I was just, like, bugging out. But are there different strains that would affect me differently? Oh, 100% there are. Yeah. I mean, there's a million different flavor and turp profiles that you can find in different flavors of weed that completely changed the hot. Yeah. So that's one of my favorite things about it.

You know, you can't really find that with other drugs, except shrooms kind of. But most other drugs, you don't find the variety like that. Yeah, yeah. There's no, like, strawberry banana Coke. You know what I mean? They don't have that yet. Yeah, not yet. Well, I mean, they probably do, but it's probably not good for you.

Yeah, there's no way. You can get some of those flavors naturally in cannabis. Well, that's a good point. Yeah. And then Indica versus Stiva. How much does that matter? There's a lot of debate over whether or not that's even real. So, like, a lot of people in the weed industry, especially lately, it's been a hot topic of, like, are Indica and Sativa even real?

I believe they are. I subscribe to the fact that they are. but I think Indica and Sativa are just a way to describe certain turp profiles. So it's like there's certain terps and there's not enough research behind this to like definitively say these things

but there's certain terps that like definitely make you more tired and more physically relaxed and couch-locked and then there's more terps. I find it's usually the lemony ones that make you more talkative and more uppity and not couch-locked. That's where Indica and Sativa comes in.

That's what the difference is. But like all Also, every single strain has like different phenotypes. So you can have two different versions of the same strain. And they can smoke two different ways and have two different flavor profiles. So that's where it gets confusing because like you could have a strain that fundamentally,

like you look at that and you say that's an indica. But then there could be a pheno of that strain that smokes like a sativa. There's branches off branches, and now it's like what am I? Never ending. Yeah. It's crazy.

That makes a lot of sense. So this is a new trend actually out here. It's popular. I bet it we could probably walk like a block over and find a bag of this right now. Okay. If we really wanted to. But sprayed weed is where people are taking like these really cheap $800, $600 fucking pounds of some indoor fucking work, right? Like some some cheap depths, you know? And there's this machine. There's a couple ways to spray turbs. You know, the real like caveman way is literally a spray bottle and you're spraying. these these nugs right the advanced way that people are doing this now is there's a machine where you can take old shitty dried out weed put it in and rehydrate that weed to make it look better and feel better and you can infuse terps into it the problem with it is that you can infuse turps that are natural and not natural so like you could put like a marshmallow coconut flavor onto your weed and it tastes like when you smoke it it literally tastes like you know you're eating a s'm or like you're eating a, you know, a cinnamon pop tart

or something like that. And that's not natural. And there's not any research behind what smoking those flavors actually does. But there's also, like, weed regulations have not kept up with the market. So, like, none of this shit is illegal. And, like, I'm willing to bet

it's probably going to give a lot of people cancer smoking all this, like, marshmallow, candy, fucking strawberry banana artificial turps. What even is it? Like it's just asbestos or some shit? Nobody knows. That's the thing. Nobody actually knows what these flavors are that are being infused. Wow. But it's a trend right now

that a lot of people are doing because people that aren't super educated about weed like it. You know, they smoke it and they're like, wow, this tastes good and they don't understand why, you know, there's a fundamental problem with it because they don't understand that they're getting scammed when they buy it. You know, they're charging $60 a bag for this shit, and the product inside, they bought for $4.

You know? Gotcha. So it's kind of a hustle that's probably not good for you. It's a hustle that's probably dangerous. Wow. And showing those dines of slowing down. So that's going to rank low. That's going to rank low.

That's right here. That's all the F year. That's, that's, I would rather smoke crack every day than smoke spray. I really mean that. I do. It's that low. It's bad, bro. Like the spray shit is bad news.

I am a staunch opponent of this. Wow. I stand against Sprint. What about like Delta 8 or any of that? What even is that? What's up, guys? We're going to take a break really quick because you need to know what's on my wrist. This is a whoop.

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hemp industry and CBD, but inadvertently legalized a whole bunch of different cannabinoids, Delta 8 being one of the whole bunch that fall into that legalized category. Interestingly, Delta 8 had its period where it was popular. Now nobody buys it. Nobody makes it. Nobody smokes it. Because people discovered that the 2018 Farm Bill effectively legalized regular weed. So there's something called THCA, which is legal.

I'm involved in this market. There's a lot of people involved in this market. Effectively, THCA is like the precursor to regular THC. So think of like when you grow a cannabis plant, right? It's not like standard THC that you're finding chemically in those nugs when they first grow on the plant, right? When you harvest, you know, the plant, you trim it, you pull the nugs off. You've got THCA that's waiting to be converted to Delta 9 THC.

And Delta 9 THC is the chemical that gets you high. The way that it converts from THA to Delta 9 THC is when heat's applied. So the moment you smoke it, it converts in a regular THC, and then it gets you stone. The way that the law is written is cannabis is defined by the amount of Delta 9 THC that's stored in it by dry weight, right? Not THCA. So inadvertently, they legalized all wheat. Like, you can go to a dispensary right now, a legal dispensary that sells, you know, licensed medical cannabis.

And you'll find a lot of products that by definition, you could legally ship across the country right now as hemp. Wow. So it's the precursor to weed. Wow. That's fascinating. It is weed, effectively. It's just the precursor to the chemical that get you stump. So there's some shops around

here specifically that, like, sell weed. I'm assuming they're probably selling that and kind of like skirting the law. If you're lucky, they're just selling that. If you're unlucky, they're either selling spray shit or Delta 8. Wow. Because there's higher margins on those.

Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, what's the shit used to be able to buy, like, in, like, smoke shops that would, like... The Scooby snacks, the K2? Oh, salvia. Oh, I've never dabbled in that. Are you familiar with it? I am.

Yes, I've never dabbled in it. They used to, like, sell it legally, like, in smoke shops and shit. So that came before all the spicing K2. That was, like, the OG, like, smoke shop drug, you know? That was, like, a little before my time, though. By the time I started like fucking around and getting high, that was already like phased out. And so did you know anyone that did Salvia? I knew people that had done it.

I had a buddy named Julian. He was actually, I talked about him earlier. He's like homeless in Philadelphia now doing heroin. But he described it as kind of shitty. Yeah. He said it's like the best way to describe it is it's like, it's like imagine if you smoked. I'm trying to remember what he said because it was really funny. He was like, imagine if you smoked weed.

But, like, it was actually Benadryl. And I'm not sure if you're familiar with what a Benadryl high is like. No. You see, like, shadow people and hear voices and shit. It's terrifying. I've been on that subreddit. It's... I've been on that subreddit.

It's not fun. Yeah, what is... Like, why do people like... There's, like, spiders and shit that, like... Yeah, you see spiders and, like, it's terrifying. I've never fucked with that either, because, like, I don't like being scared. Yeah. So why do people do this?

Like... I think it's, like, a cheap thing. high and it's kind of a drug for people that are like really desperate, you know, the kind of people who were just like, well, better than sober. Wow. What about huffing paint? You ever know anyone that did that or like markers or some shit? I know I used to have a lot of friends who huff nitrous and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was like... Like whippets, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a very fun thing when you're younger. Um... Oh, yeah, I did a whip at one time, actually. How'd you like it? It was weird. It's fucking awesome. This is a nightclub in Moscow. Oh, okay. And there was passing around balloons. And I was like, oh, yeah, I was like, It was just like open at this nightclub. And I was like, all right. So I was with this like Russian guy and I was like, yeah, yeah, it's fine, it's fun. It'll be like 20 seconds, just see what happens.

And so like I just like took the balloon and just like, and then like we're listening, we're sitting in like this club and just like, what's it, zip, zip, zip, zip, and then slowly I just like fell into like a hole. And then the music got really far away and it was like, and it was like, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, and I was just like, and I was just like, hell, where the fuck? It was like, get out, like, sunk in place. And I could, like, like, like, like,

like kind of see everyone like far away, like the little hole. And then just immediately was just like... Just got sucked back in. Back to the party. I was like, that was weird. Yeah, it's never did it again. It doesn't seem fun. I don't get it.

I don't know. I'm assuming you got to do it over and over and over. You got to like have a... Yeah. Have a night. We're like, yeah, we're just going to like... Yeah. I've seen them do it out of like the little like a...

Like those things are like raised and stuff. So casually. Yeah. So casually. They're just huffing it. I've seen people huff it while they're driving and shit. No way. Just so casually.

Yeah. That's crazy. I remember I had a buddy you used to do that actually. It's a kid named Jaden who used to steal alcohol for us. I didn't ride in his car very much because it was absolutely terrifying

but he'd like huff-wippets or he'd pick you out when he was barred out and be swerving and like hit the curb all the time and shit. He would go like 85 miles an hour through neighborhoods that like kids would be playing on the lawns in and shit.

What the fuck? I hate him riding in that guy's car. What happened to that did? He went to jail a few times. I think he had a kid. might have figured it out by now. I hope. Yeah, that would be great.

I hope so. He was a cool dude to me. That's crazy. Didn't rob me. That's good. What about other psychedelics? Like, obviously we talked about shrooms a little, but like DMT. DMT's on my bucket list.

I saved that one, though. That's like, I didn't want to blow all the drug experiences, you know? I wanted to have, like, one thing on my plate still, and DMT is what I saved. What about ayahuasca? I don't know if I want to do that, because that's kind of like, When we were talking about like Datora earlier, you know, I've heard similar stories with like ayahuasca, you know, people taking ayahuasca and just not really like coming back. Really? Yeah.

You knew people that happened to? I don't know people, but I've seen a lot of stories of that. And that kind of scares me a little bit. Yeah. It's a long experience. I think I'd have to do DMT first, you know, like, ayahuasca is pretty late on the totem pole. Yeah, yeah, because DMT is like 10 minutes. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, yeah, 10, 20 minutes, you know, like, fuck it, bro. Just quick little oddbody experience. Yeah, for real. Like, I had friends that, like, I had a friend that would do it. He did, like, a couple times. And he was like, like, he, like, broke through the first couple times, like, hung out with the machine elves. He was like, it was, the way he described it was this.

The machine elves were basically, like, little goblins, okay? They were, like, devious. They would be, like, up to stuff. They were always nice, and they were really excited to see him. They were so happy. So literally, he's like, you hit it, you're kind of in, like, the waiting room. And then you, like, go into the party, and he was like, there was a DJ.

He was like, there was like a little like machine elf DJ that was like, what's it, and he was just like in there and when he walked in, all the goblins were like, oh, he's here. What a pleasant fucking DMT experience, dude. Bro, he said it was like awesome. I've heard so much worse than that. No, his was like awesome and then he like kind of snapped out of it in like six, seven minutes and then looked at a list

that he had written before he took it. That was like his intentions. And it was like, consider all living things, eat better. And he like looked at the list and just started crying laughing. He was just like, what the fuck? He was like, I thought I was gonna have like some beautiful experience and then looked at a list and he was like,

this is not, no, I just went to like a rave for a minute. And then a couple of times he did it, he just went to like the waiting room. Okay. So he like shows up in the waiting room and the machino, there's like three or four of them in there and they're like, oh, you're here. Like almost confused and he's like, yeah.

And they're like, we can't let you in. You think maybe that's him not breaking through all the way? That's the way he described it. He was like, yeah, I guess I didn't do enough. And they were like, we can't let you into the cool place. be like, look at this other stuff. And, like, they had, like, paintings and shit, and they were, like, look at, look around here.

Like, you're going to look at these things. It's such a fascinating substance. Like, empty is crazy. It's already in us. You know what I mean? Like, that shit's crazy. You think that's what we see when we die? So, funny enough, actually, when I was 17, I had a cardiac arrest when I took fake acid.

What? Yeah, I took a bunch of fake acid tabs in my friend's house, started tweaking out, went home, had a cardiac arrest. And, like, I don't know if I, like, lost consciousness or, like, what has? happen when I was in the ambulance, but I definitely had like a, like an out of body experience. And it was not like a normal psychedelic experience. And I kept seeing myself through like the eyes of a bunch of different like beings and like people and creatures. So like I remember I saw myself as like a bird flying over like this valley over a bunch of trees.

And then I saw myself like as a dude and I was like sitting in a chair, but I was like tied to a chair or whatever. And then I saw myself like, I just kept going through different perspectives of like different creatures, you know, like animals and humans and, like, from all sorts of, like, time periods and places and stuff. And it was like, it was like a montage of that, almost, you know, like, that's the only thing that I saw that whole time. I just kept going through different perspectives and feeling all these different, like, emotions.

And to me, after I, like, came up out of that, I was in the hospital at that point. I was already, like, in the hospital bed. And before I went into that, like, kind of phase, I was in the ambulance. So I knew consciously that, like, there was a gap of time where that's all I remembered, you know? So I always told myself that I thought that was like a DMT trip that I was having. Whoa. Like in my brain when I was having a cardiac arrest.

Because I didn't like, no, it's not like, you know, I was conscious like, oh, fuck, oh, you know? I wasn't like aware of what was going on. It wasn't until much later that I had been told what actually was like happening. But also, I'm not certain because it could have also been a psychedelic thing because once I came back to in the hospital, I was still tripping dick. Whoa. So in the hospital. Yeah. So it was actually really fucked up because I was off fake acid.

So I think it was a substance called 25I, but like I'm not certain. You know, I'll never be certain. But 25I was like a synthetic LSD basically, a synthetic of a synthetic. So like, no good. What the fuck? But I remember they had like, in order to calm me down, they literally had me like strapped to this hospital bed. And it wasn't like, you know, strapped all the way in. But they had like two straps over each of my arms, you know, so I couldn't really get up.

And they just turned the lights off and like left me in there for hours. So I'm sitting here and I'm looking around. I'm still having visuals in the dark. And I'm seeing like these shapes and these like creatures and faces and shit. And I'm just strapped there in the dark and I can't fucking move. and it sucked. Did you yell? Like,

No, I mean, I just kind of like took it, you know? I mean, honestly, I will say it, it was probably better that the lights were off because, like, my mind was just kind of running wild with like all these shapes and, like, colors and shit.

But that was like, the one experience I have where I was like, yeah, I do subscribe to the whole DMT thing now. Like, I get it. I want to do that later in my life. Whoa. You know? What happened to your heart?

Is your heart? good? Yeah, yeah, I mean, since then, I've been fine. You know, I go to the doctor, get my checkups, you know? It was literally just that night when I overdosed on whatever the fuck I took, I had a cardiac arrest. What the fuck? And I had very low, like, oxygen in my blood or whatever. I remember they had, like, I remember, when I came back to, my fingers were really, like, tingly. It was, it was like my arms had fallen asleep, you know? But it was your whole body and your heart. Yeah, it was like, my whole body and everything. And I remember, like, they put the little, uh, the monitor that they put on your finger. They put it on my finger and it fucking hurt. like shit because like the pressure it was putting on when my finger was tingling it was like unbearable whoa i was like oh dude it was like it was like it's almost like i stuck my finger in acid you know what the fuck so what about regular acid regular acid's great when you get real acid thumbs up for me really that that ranks high yeah i mean any cool experiences like oh all of my most fond you know drug memories in general are on acid all of them i mean when i was in high school

we used to eat acid every fucking day. We'd eat it on the way to school at like 6 a.m. We'd eat it right after school. You would trip in school. Yeah. Yeah. Whoa. It was kind of fun, you know?

I mean, looking back at it, would I do it again? Fuck no. Like right now, if it was like, yo, Nick, you got to go to school for eight hours today, but you can take acid if you want? Like, no. No shot. I'm good. Bro.

But it was fun back then. What kind of experience is like anything cool? Do you see anything interesting? I never took like super crazy doses. I definitely knew how to control. control myself and I was going to school. I just wanted to take enough to like have some cool visuals and vibe and be able to zone out and not really pay attention. Yeah. You know, because class was like, I've always had ADHD, you know, I've always hated taking my medication for it.

So like- That's the one drug. You're like, I'm not taking that. Bro, I hate Adderall. And none of the other ones work. Like, Vivans, all the other shit. It does nothing to me. Really? So like, yeah, Adderall is the only thing that works. And I fucking hate it. Why? It just makes me feel like shit and you know what's weird it makes me smell bad so i hate it it makes me smell bad it makes my shrivel up and like i just i hate that shit bro i did not know it was a side of fact yeah no i swear to the guy it's called turtle dick so like adderall consumers out there yo drop a comment you know what i'm talking about that's crazy um makes your dick shrivel up yeah maybe i'm on adderall right now bro i don't know because i'm like i'm i'm so i got a slight shrivel going i mean

bro just get excited about something yeah yeah yeah i mean if you still are shrivel then it's probably Adderall. Yeah, bro. That's fucking wild. I did not know that did that. What about nicotine? You know, what's funny, I actually just quit. Three weeks ago, I just quit vaping finally. I started smoking cigarettes when I was like 15. And then I kind of bounced between like, I had the big old box mod, you know, when kids like blow clouds back in the day. I had one of those. Dude, I used to go to cloud competitions. No way. I didn't partake, but I would go like with him to support him. Yeah. Those motherfuckers are crazy. They would be doing all that.

They'd be in there for like four hours, and the grand prize is like one bottle of apis. Like, it's about the love of the game. Yeah, yeah, no, respect to that shit. You're not into it for the money. You know what I mean? You just want to be master the craft. But sometimes they are crazy.

Like, they'll hit the ring and then the other ring inside of it and move it. Yeah, it's kind of fire. I knew some kids who could do some crazy tricks with that shit. Yeah, it is wild. Yeah. I'm trying to think if there's any other, any other drugs that we didn't get to that would rank.

I think we skipped like some opiates, like, you know, oxies, hydros, that kind of category. Yeah. Um, which I don't, I think I'd put kind of somewhere in the middle, personally, you know, um, I don't really love or hate opiates. It was a category that I was fortunate to never really like, get that hooked on. You know, don't get me wrong. I've done them all. Like, I've taken perks before, you know, I've done hydros. I've done oxies. You know, I've done narcos. I've done, you know, a little morphine pills that your homies would get from their surgeries and shit. Yeah. And like, it's cool, but it was never like, the. kind of high that I liked. Yeah. You know, I liked more, like, aggressive highs than that. Yeah.

You know. MDMA? Mali's fun. Yeah. Molly's fun. I just, like, I think I literally ran out of serotonin in my fucking brain after a certain point. Yeah, that happens.

It got to the point where I just couldn't roll anymore. I mean, how frequently were you doing it? Like... I mean, I was mixing it with my Coke, so, like, every day. Every day? For, like, months? Yeah, months straight. Months straight.

Almost every day just doing Molly. And, like, not even, I don't know why the fuck I did it. Because, like, I wouldn't actually put enough in my Coke lines to make me roll on its own. I'd just, like, oh, this Coke ain't hitting right. I'm a sprinkle a little Molly in there. And I think, like, the extra burn it gave, just gave me that little placebo, that little kick. Like, oh, it's doing something. It was better, yeah, you know?

But it was definitely enough to fry all my serotonin. Yeah. And you feel like you recovered from it? It took a long time. It took a long time. That's the black and white thing you were talking about. Bro, it was crazy. Like, I remember thinking, when I first got in California sober,

I remember thinking, like, there's no way this is what it's like. Like, this is what sober people are like? Like, bro. Just raw dog in the world. Yeah, I know. I couldn't imagine it, but it does get better. Yeah. It does get a lot better, actually.

So do you think you have any permanent damage from the drug use? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm kind of retarded. Like, yeah. I mean... You don't seem retarded. You seem pretty regs?

One thing that I've kind of noticed is I've picked up a bit of a stutter. Really? Like over the years. Yeah. And I knew a kid. Luckily, it's very minor. And I kind of, I like added around it in my video. Sometimes I'll get caught on a word.

I didn't used to do that before I started doing drugs. You king speech a little. Yes. Wow. I just kind of roll with it. But there was a kid that I went to rehab with who was a Molly addict and he did way more than me and he like couldn't finish a sentence. Yeah.

He developed such a bad stutter. So I think that could. could be part of it. And also, sometimes I have, like, I don't know if I call them full on acid flashbacks, but I definitely see a lot of tracers. Like, when I'm out, especially in bright areas, yeah, it's like a very light acid effect

when I look around, you know? Oh, that's not so. And sometimes I have this little Twitch, too. I haven't noticed it. Like... Have you been hitting it while we've been talking? Every, no, no, not really. It's like, I don't.

I don't really consciously hit it, you know, it just kind of like happens, you know, but like every now that I'll just hit like a, you know, like a little Twitch. Interesting. But. A little backfire, you know, I mean, sometimes, you hear a Honda Civic that'll do that, you know,

like a little rice or a little. I think overall I've been very fortunate, though. You know, I haven't gotten a lot of the like real life altering side effects, you know. Yeah. A couple minor things I can deal with. You've been robbed? Not like directly.

I used to drive around so I was like the driver for my homie who would serve and he got robbed in my car one time but like back then I was so broke like I never had anything of value for anyone to rob so they literally just pulled me out of the way

like they had their guns out and they were going for my homie and they were just like get the fuck out of the way Nick I'm just like all right man okay dude that's crazy yeah did anything happen or was it like he just gave a pistol with him and took a shit fuck then you had to get back in the car with him be like

That happened numerous times. My homie got robbed a bunch, dude. There was one time we were on a two-man, and we went over to this girl's house that, like, she was really bad. Her friend was really bad. So far out of our league, I was amazed that we even were invited to this crib at this point. So it was like, we were so excited. We were like, yo, listen, we have to nail it. Like, we got to, you know, be cool, you know, bring the good drugs.

If they want them, we got them type shit, you know. And my friend Ashton, his dumb ass, he's like, yo, I have a serve. Do you mind if this guy comes over real quick and like grabs? Trying to be cool, you know, show the girls like, yeah, you know, I sell drugs, that kind of thing. So he invites this guy over thinking it's just going to be a quick serve. And it turns out that it's this group that just came from a party that got busted. I guess the cops had just like showed up at this other party that was a town over. Fucking 20 people show up.

And mind you, this girl's house has like cameras in it and stuff. It's just us for here, right? and like everything's chill, you know, we're not doing anything that crazy. We're just like drinking a little bit, chatting, you know. All of a sudden, 20 people are on her fucking porch. And my homie opens the door and they just start coming in. So she's like, what the fuck? Like, what's going on?

Who are these people? Get the fuck out of here. And a couple of the dudes who showed up to grab off my friend. They're asking him what he's got and he's got a whole bunch of shit. He's got like ketamine. He's got acid with him. He's got a whole bunch of zans, you know, the whole shebang. And they asked him to go in the back.

bathroom to do the serve. And I knew then and there, like, shit was not going to end well, you know, you don't need to be in the bathroom. But he was kind of stupid with that stuff, you know. He was very trusting. He was a nice guy. So he goes in the bathroom with them. And I'm standing outside of the door kind of waiting, kind of waiting, like, something's not right, you know, like, there's three dudes in the bathroom and it's just my homie. Like, you don't need to be there, you know? So kind of waiting by the door. And all of a sudden, I hear a bunch of loud bangs. And they start kind of yelling at it. And at each other, they pistol whip my homie and took everything he had. They ran his pockets. I took his wallet. They took all his drugs. Everything he had, his weed. They left him with his phone, but like, they took everything of notable value that he had. Open the closet door and just ran out of the house and two of them, like still had their guns and shit. So my homie runs out, and he's telling me, he's like, yo, like, we got to chase him. I'm like, yo, like, what do you want me to do, man? Like, maybe you should chill out. I told him, I was like, yeah, like, calm down. Like we can't chase them right now.

And they just ran out of the house and dipped. And mind you, this girl whose house it is who were originally, you know, trying to get to know a little better is like screaming crying. Yeah. Like she is traumatized. She's like, get out of my house. Like get the fuck out. Like, I can't believe you brought this shit to my house. So she kicked us out.

We get the fuck out of there. Later that night, I remember I sent her a message apologizing. I was like, yo, we're so sorry. like we'd love to make it up to you you know kind of thing and meanwhile my homie's sitting there and he's like yo we gotta get him back like we gotta go get my shit back

and like we don't have guns bro like what are you gonna do none of us have guns hey can you give us back our drugs you took from us like what the fuck like we just we just went and like fucked up the kids so we knew who one of them was obviously because someone had to show up and and come in contact yeah so we knew who one of them was and he went to his house and just fucked up

the car that was in the driveway which come to find out was his mom's car, so he felt really bad about. It was super, super bad. I'm so sorry, homie's mom out there. I'm not gonna say the real name. That's crazy. I'm so sorry, ma'am.

But you never sold drugs or anything. You were just like... I like, I don't, I was never a drug dealer. Like, I sold to my friends, you know, I sold like break even on a bag, you know? But like, yeah, I was never liked the plug or anything. That's crazy. And there was a brief period.

I was on probation in 2017. and I was ordering weed on the deep web and I couldn't smoke it because I was getting drug tested once a month so I could only do the harder drugs that lasted my system less. So I was only doing Xanax and only taking Molly

and I wasn't smoking weed. And during that time I would get like really cheap, shitty weed off the deep web. And that was like a brief period where I was a bit of a weed man. And then the moment I got off probation, I blew all the money and went back to

immediately. Business as usual. So then what got you L.A. sober? I remember it was towards the end of 2021 it was like fall and there was just one day

where I was sitting at my house coked up and like I was just having these real bad bouts of paranoia and like just tweaking and I was at the point where like bro I would get geeked up

and just go look through my blinds and shit and just peer out and think like yo like someone's gonna come seize my fucking deep web back you know because at this point my coke man was in jail so I was getting my blow on on the internet.

I was getting my blow on the deep web. So, like, I was tweaking about that. I was like, yo, like, I was constantly just paranoid, like, someone's going to come to my house, someone's going to know I'm ordering Coke. Maybe this Coke is fent, you know, at that point. That was, like, a valid concern. I didn't know where this was really coming from, you know?

So, like, I just, I was really paranoid. And one day I got so geeked up that I was having these heart palpitations, and I was cold sweating. And I remember, I thought that I was, like, about to have a heart attack. I remember I, like, ripped all my clothes off. I ran out on my porch and I'm standing there cold sweating at like

8 a.m. in my boxers, bro. And I'm sitting there and I'm just breathing because the outside fresh air is the only thing that would calm me down. And I was just like, I had this moment. I was just like, bro, I can't do this anymore. Like, I don't want to, this isn't fun, you know? And like, it hadn't been fun for a while at that point,

but like, I just had, like, in that moment, it just, like, clicked. It was like, I don't want to fucking live like this anymore. You know, like, I'm not, this isn't partying, even, you know, this hasn't been partying for a while. It's just like, I'm getting high because my brain keeps telling me to, and then I regret it the moment I do a line, you know, I would like do a line because I, you know, I was doing such fat fucking amounts at this point, you know, my tolerance was so cranked up.

They would do a fat line that I'd be sitting there scared like, oh, was it too fat? Like, oh, fuck, oh, fuck, oh, fuck, oh, fuck, oh, my heart rate's going up. Oh, oh, fuck, oh, fuck, oh, fuck, I'm going up. Every one, you were like this is the last one. Yeah, and then five minutes later, I'd do another line. I'm, oh, fuck, oh, fuck, oh, fuck, oh, fuck. Was that line too fat? Oh fuck my heart rate's going up oh shit

I'm fucking tweaking dude I'm cold sweating Let me take my hoodie off you know So I was just fucking twitching I was like Bro I can't like can't live like this anymore And I just I cold turkey that fucking day Like that day I flushed on my blow I fucking cold turkied

I smoked an aggressive amount of weed For like month straight And I just brute forested it Like people always ask me They're like how would you really quit Coke Because they don't believe me when I say I just cold turkey but it's like I didn't just consciously in my brain tell myself to cold turkey I just I snapped you know and do you hang with people that still do blow yeah oh so it's around you for sure yeah yeah some of my good hometown friends are still fucking raging co-heads and you're still and you're still able to keep a solid I've dabbled a couple times since nobody's perfect yeah yeah but I've taken my bums and been able to like so I've done it three times since fall 2012 one and all three of those times you know it's a

It's been a while now. It's been over a year now since the last little dabble. But I was able to go home and not, you know, buy a bag and take it and, you know, hit someone up for a bag. So it's something that I think I've kind of mastered being around at this point. You know, I've, I won't say I moved on. I don't think you ever move on from that kind of thing. It's like a day-to-day, like, go up today. But.

Wow. And all of this crazy shit that you got into, you were never afraid, like, oh, oh, the police are going to get me, like obviously outside of the paranoia, it was kind of drug-induced, but like, oh, like, I'm going to get caught, I'm going to OD, I'm going to do Fent, I'm going to, you know, get shot,

going to get robbed. I didn't like, I just never considered long-term implications of anything I was doing at that point of my life. You know, it was, it was a very short-sighted lifestyle of like, all right, how am I having fun today? Well, obviously that I'm getting high, you know. All right, how am I getting high today?

I don't have money. all right, where are we hitting a leg? Did you care? Did you think you were going to live a long time? No, no. Did you think you were going to die young? 100%. Oh, really?

You actually had that in your mind. You're like, yeah, I'll probably. Yeah, I was, like, very convinced of that. And it was something that me and my friends would, like, joke about very morbidly, you know. And, like, my best friend died when we were 17, you know, he OD'd in his sleep. So it was something like we'd be very morbidly joke about me. Like, yeah, you know, 25 will probably kick the can. You know, like 22 will probably kick the can.

You know, like, um, and it was something like, I don't know. know. It's like, I think my, my adolescent brain, I didn't have sober time to ever think about the consequences of my actions because I was just constantly on a rotation of being so fucking high. Yeah. So I never, I never stopped to think like, how could this affect me long term? You know, I was just like, I'll deal with that later. How old are you now? I'm 25. Nice. So you made it. Yep, yep. Made it so far. Wow. And where did this honesty come from? Like, like, just being so candid about the fucked up shit you did, like the crazy stuff you did, and then being so public about it?

I don't know. I mean, for me, I get a lot of messages from viewers that tell me, like, oh, you encourage me to, like, quit this, or you encourage me to stay away from this, or, like, your videos help me, you know, understand the dangers of this. And, like, that kind of shit means a lot to me, you know? And I don't, personally, I don't have a problem talking about my experiences or, like, who I am as a person. I'm a pretty open book, you know.

when I like sit down and like make my videos you know it's I don't really view it as like I'm talking to one person like I'm just kind of talking into my mic so I just say whatever I want and then never listen to it back you know I just post that shit but I think that's the most effective thing that because your honesty cuts through you know what I mean like the people that I've taken advice from that have been helpful in my life have always been people that have done bad shit or like been through some shit like it's like a cop that's never done. anything that's like, hey, don't do drugs and no one's got to fucking listen. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, their program didn't work. Yeah, of course. But like, it's, you need someone that's like, you've done everything and, uh, this stuff, don't do it. It's not good. It'll fuck you up. It'll ruin your life. It'll make you feel bad. This stuff, if you do it responsibly, you're probably fine. This stuff go crazy with. And I think it's like the honesty that cuts through with all your shit that I think is like super important. I think it's like really helpful. Yeah. Like for people that don't do drugs like me that are just curious and then people that are probably

fucking addicted listening being like, oh, wow, I could just brute forward it, brute force it, and just like smoke and jerk off and be fine. You know what I mean? Yeah, you know what I mean? It's different for everybody, you know? But like, I try to like, I just try to give people a real look at what it's like and not like fuck around, you know? Like, at the end of the day, I don't try to push people a certain way with my content. I just tell them how it is for me.

Like, if you want to do your drugs, do your fucking drugs, bro, I'm not going to tell you get sober. Yeah. You know, like, you should get sober, but like, I'm not going to force you, you know. Yeah. Have your parents come around since like? 100%. And what did that look like? I mean, when I was younger, I had a terrible relationship with, like, my whole family, especially my mom and my dad.

My dad, I haven't really come around with. But my mom is, like, very supportive of everything I'm doing now. When I was younger, she did not like the YouTube thing. I remember I was working. I was doing like I was helping run the books at a Lexus dealership so I was doing like cashiering

but also doing like the balance sheets at the end of the day and I quit that job to pursue YouTube but I was only making $300 a month at that point but like I told my mom I was like listen like let me cook let me do this for a couple years

and I'll figure it out and you're probably at that point like 18 yeah she hated it because I just stayed home and got high all day you know and then went out and fucking partied and came home and just uploaded enough to get another YouTube check to go out and spend it all on getting high. So she hated it first, but then once she kicked me out of her house and got some time on her

own, you know, and I went and figured out my shit, she came around to it and supported it. Were you surprised? Kind of, yeah, you know? I mean, I think, like, I knew that once I got out of her fucking hair that things would get better, you know, but I was very surprised at like how much of a 180 she took. Like she's very supportive of everything I do now, you know, like she, she always asked me like, oh, how's the content? Like, how's the podcast?

You know, how's L.A., all that stuff. So she's very down for it now. Wow. But, um, that's awesome. That's cool. She always wanted me to like go to college and shit when I was younger. And I'm probably the only person in my family that like hasn't gotten a college degree you know, long, like, generations.

But how many people in your family, like, run their own business? A couple, not, like, my aunt and my uncle have their own business, and that's about it. All the rest of them are, like, career people. Yep, and me. So. I mean, that's wild. That's really cool that they came around. Yeah.

Do you ever look back on how they raised you and be like, yeah, I could have done with, like, a little discipline? Or do you think you would have not given a fuck anyway? I'm torn on that because part of me, like, The way that in the future, like, if I have kids, the way that I'm going to discipline them, like, if, let's say, a little V2 of me popped out and did all the same shit that I did, I'm handling that way differently than my parents. What would you do? I'd probably be kind of a hard ass. Yeah. I'd probably be pretty strict because I see how it turned out, you know, and I got very, very lucky to be in the position I'm in.

You know, I got very lucky to make it out of that situation, uh, relatively intact. Yeah, yeah, a little Twitch here. There's, yeah, yeah, a little Twitch, a little starter, we'll fucking deal with that shit. You know, I got very lucky to make it out of that situation. And I think like, my parents were a little too loose with me. Like, they gave me a little too much freedom, you know,

from a little too young of an age. Yeah. So I was just like, I was just up and at him, you know. And you were like, how far can I push it? Yeah, and like me, bro, I'm not gonna lie. I'd probably have my kids location. I'd be on that shit. I'd be tracking them, Life 360 app, all that shit.

My parents had none of that. But your kids will also believe you. You know what I mean? If your kids are like fucking around, like doing drugs, you can be like, yo, what are you doing? And they can tell you. And you can be like, you know, check out my video on this truck. You know what I mean? I hope they're down to tell me.

That's, that's, you know, I hope they're down to tell. But you create that environment, you know what I mean? Like if you're like a reasonable dude, you're like, oh, you're smoking weed, you're 17. It's probably fine. You know what I mean? but if they're doing fucking two-see and they're 12, be like, all right, let's look into this. You know what I mean?

I'll be so proud if my kid brings home some gas. Like the first day he brings home some fucking pack, I'm going to be like, son, you can keep this one. That's what I'm going to discipline them, though. If he brings trash, you'd be like- If he brings some fucking Reggie? Yo, in the corner. He's learning that day.

Yeah, 10 licks, bro. He's fucking learning that day. You got spank. You got to spank him, bro. 17 years old, yo, what did I tell you? Yeah. That's crazy.

And if you had to look back, like, in full honesty, do you think when you first started doing drugs there was anything you were like compensating for like trying to cover up? Oh, 100%. 100%. Insecurity, I wanted to like fit in. Yeah.

100%. It was a thing where like my friends at that point were kind of all like growing up a little bit. It was a weird transitionary period with my friend group. And like all of a sudden I met these couple dudes in my new classes

who smoked weed and drank liquor in the parking lot before homecoming and like they wanted to do. me to come do that and like they had a reputation you know all the other kids I knew like knew them as the kids that do that and I was like damn that sounds kind of fucking lit yeah you know I want to do that um and it gave me a you know it gave me like a like a sense of belonging to me it was like joining a club you know it's like some kids join like fucking the football team some kids join like chess club I joined the fucking liquor club yeah yeah and then you get to prove yourself

within the club by being like yeah I'm gonna go even harder go hard I think oh who is it I think it should The white guy and the gang, like the white guy hangs with a bunch of black dudes. Like, that's the craziest motherfucker. It was, dude, it was so funny. So when I would go over to my buddy's house to buy weed, I would usually be, not always, but I'd usually be the only white guy there. And they'd all call me white boy. And it was so funny because, like, on paper, it was the most rag-tag mix of people.

We had, like, this 35-year-old cab driver from the south side of Chicago who would give me rides home and let me smoke blunts in the back of his taxi, like his marked taxi and shit. And like, it was just the most ragged. Like, we had gangbangers in there mixed with, like, my ass, and I just got done playing a World Warcraft, and I'm here to buy a gram, you know. It was just the most... Drugs bring the most interesting groups of people together.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And do you still keep in touch with, like, any of, like, the crazy characters from back in the day? For sure. Not all of them. A lot of them, like, are still doing their thing, you know, got to let them kind of... Gotta let them crash out, do their shit.

But I definitely am in touch with a lot of my friends from back in the day who are doing a lot better than they used to be. That's cool. Like my other buddy, you smoked crack. He's just chilling now, you know, grinds in his job, got his little crib,

you know, his life's on track. Wow. So two of the three crack boys are good. There you go. Yeah, that's good odds, you know what I mean? So 66% chance. He'll be fine. Dude, anything over 50 is gambler's office.

You know, that's a good fucking number. Bro, you're a fascinating human being. I'll be honest. I appreciate that. It's like, like your story is wild, the way everything ties together, like the shit you've been through, and then now running your own channel,

running your own business, and, like, actually making real money and, like, living is, like, an insane 180. I just, and you seem really put together right now, you know what I mean? I'm grateful to be where I am. Yeah, genuinely, like, it's a, you're an interesting guy. Thank you. I appreciate it.

I want to do this again, and then I just want to go into conspiracies and aliens and talk about random shit. I'm super down. You know who I actually had on, speaking of conspiracies? I had on my show recently, David Packhouse. I saw you talk to him, too.

I was a man. I was watching. interview with him to like pregame before mine you know a little more about him I like the way you did that by the way it was fine you like you had him like show you how to do it and everything that was good at yeah yeah yeah yeah he was like yeah I didn't do this I was like yeah I know I know he's like you know I'm not a criminal I was like yeah yeah I get I get but if I wanted to you know I don't think you knew I was going to do that but it turned out pretty good he had to tiptoe so carefully yeah but dude this has been really fun I would love to do this again and just

and just go off on all the weird shit in the world But this was, like, this is a great first date. You know what would be a fun episode? Me, you and Yola. Yo. That would be a fun one. I would love to link with him. For real, he seems like the home.

Dude, I'll help you line that up. We'll get that together for sure. That'd be awesome. And then maybe, maybe I'll smoke, dude. Maybe I'll take a couple puffs. But if I start tweaking, you got to calm me down, okay? We got you, bro. Don't even worry about it, dude.

We'll bring all the fucking goodies, dude. We'll bring the nice, good water, you know? We'll bring the casual, you know, chill strains for you. It'll be good. Be good. Thank you, brother. And locked in. Yo, thank you for having me, man.

Of course, bro. Really enjoyed it. Let's go your pizza. Yeah, so I can get it.