Camp Gagnon - LA Gangster On Violence, Death, & God | Lil Cuete

Episode Date: July 5, 2024

🏞️ Sign up to Camp for exclusive updates: https://camp.beehiiv.com/LA Rapper and former gang member Young OG Lil Cuete and I had a very raw conversation about his upbringing in the gang infested streets of west Los Angeles and how he escaped the violence. Cuete is truly a remarkable dude and I if you liked my interview with former inmates and reformed legends, you’re gonna love this one. Welcome to camp! 🏕️Edited and Produced by @99OvrAll S/O to our sponsors Morgan & Mor...

I've seen people get killed in front of me. One of my friends got shot in front of me. Could have been me. I would literally think that it would be my last day every time I'd turn the block. That was one of the things that made me want to carry a little time. You could get caught with it. You might do a little time, but you can get out.

You get caught without it, and your time's done. What age would you say you're, like, officially affiliated into, like, a West Coast gang? When I was 16, I got jumped in. I didn't have to get jumped in, but I wanted to get jumped in. You know how some families passed down heirlooms? We get passed down gang.

gang violent and gang beefs. At a very young age, I knew that this is what I was going to do. I didn't even see a future. Gang life is no joke. I made a commitment. Once I got from there, it's going to be forever. You know what? That's a good question.

I feel like I'm seeing a psychiatrist. I'm not locking things right now. You know what? I never even asked myself that question. And thinking about it right now... Quit that. I need to ask you something. Yeah.

Is it hard to be a gang member when you're funny? No, man, it's not that hard. Because on the outside, you're a game member. You know what I mean? On the outside, I see you. And I'm like, man, this guy is scary. But I talked to you for one minute. I'm like, yo, this is like a real goofy guy.

You know what I mean? I'm goofy. Like I'm a clown? No, yo, yo. Do I amuse you? You? No, no. Immediately that has run away.

But, like, yeah, you're just like so fun and, like, smart. And you have, like, so many interesting theories about the world. Like, I want to unpack your. brain. Yeah, I mean, it's definitely one of those, don't judge a book by, it's covered thing. Yeah, yeah. I embrace that. Yeah. It's cool with me. I like that, matter of fact. Yeah. Yeah, it's cool. It's kind of nice. You know what? I like being in the know when not a lot of people know. What do you mean by that? I like knowing stuff that people don't. And as long as I know what I know, that's good enough for me. Yeah. They could think whatever. That's, that's one of my

saying is they could think what they want. They could think what they think while I know what I know. So it's fine with me. Where did you grow up? I grew up in a city southeast from Los Angeles, downtown L.A. What's it called? Norwalk. Oh, Norwalk. Norwalk. What's Norwalk like?

It has everything. It has everything. It's 15 minutes from the Pacific Coast Highway, which would be the beach, like Huntington Beach. all the way to, like, Malibu and, like, Santa Monica, around that area. It's a little bit further, but what I'm saying is it's about a very short drive from the beach.

And then, like, like I said, 20 minutes from downtown. It's not very far. And then your parents are from L.A.? Or they immigrated? No, my parents are from L.A. Okay, cool. And from the same area? Yes, Norwalk.

Okay, got it. We've been there for generations. Oh, wow. Yeah. So it goes all the way back. Yeah. And then you have siblings? I did. I had, I had, my brother passed away in 2020. I have a little sister, but yeah.

And they're, they're all, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, she's in Norwalk. No, my sister moved out. She's, she's doing her thing. She's a realtor. She's another one that, uh, exiled in school. And, uh, she got all kinds of things. She was doing forensic science for a while. Um, she was doing all, uh, she had her, she has her own business right now, but also now she got a realtor license. So she's, uh, my mom and dad paid for our education. Uh, for my mom, for my brother. to me and my sister. So we're a very educated family. Interesting. Did you go to college? No, I didn't.

I found that, well, the reason that I didn't pursue that is because I found women really heavily in high school. Yeah. Yeah, so I kind of shied away from the sports because I was ranked 25th in all California when I was 12 years old in baseball. Oh, really? So I was pretty...

What position you put? And you could stick me anywhere, but I was second base. Wow. second base. Oh, that's wild. So you were good at baseball? Yeah, I'm still, I'm an athlete.

Yeah. I'm definitely an athlete. I saw you get down from that tree house, bro. You were moving. Yeah, you were moving. Did you get in fights a lot growing up? Yeah, I got in a lot of fights. I did.

I'm not going to lie. I did. You were confrontational? Well, I just, yeah, I always speak on what I feel. And that's one thing that people either hate or love about me, you know? I just, I keep it 100. I stay true to myself. And some people can handle it.

some people could, they understand that, but other people, they get offended. And that's when, when, when I meet people that are like me, that's when sparks fly, so to speak. Ah, interesting. Interesting. And so growing up, though, is Norwalk a dangerous place, or is it kind of like middle class regular? Like I said, it's a little bit of everything. But from where I was at, yeah, definitely.

It's like a middle class city, but it definitely has its upper, uh, class. I would say that maybe not in the structural like people's homes and maybe money, but in pride and family and love, it's very rich. Hey, what's up guys? Sorry to interrupt this amazing program, but I need a little bit of help. If you're watching this on YouTube, you can probably see our subscriber

number right down here. And if you're able to, it would mean the world if you could subscribe. That is the best way to support this show. Because when you subscribe, I'm able to show it to potential guests or to different brands and stuff like that. And it really, really helps grow the show, get us cooler guests, have cooler conversations, and it helps everything so, so much. So if you don't mind, thank you so much. Let's get back to it. What was the first time you ever saw a gun? First in person?

Yeah. I can't even remember. It was young. Oh, really? It was young, definitely. It was like someone from the neighborhood or something? It was my uncle. Oh, really?

Yeah, yeah. He used to, he was running around doing this thing. Ah. So when he wasn't locked up. Right. You know, so he's locked up right now, too. Gotcha. Free your uncle.

Yeah. So like I'm saying, whenever he wasn't locked up, he was with me and we were doing things. Gotcha. But so your parents, they had regular professional jobs. Yeah, yeah. Dad had a really good job. Mom had a government job.

She worked for the post office, and back then it was a good job. That's cool. Yeah. That's so interesting. So then how did you get involved in sort of, like, like the underworld, sort of like unofficial business. I'll tell you like this. I think it's two things.

I tell my mom like this. I say, Mom, you did a perfect job. I messed up all on my own. You know, that's the first thing I would say. But not to take no not to put no blame on nobody, but my brother, he was always older than me. I was always trying to keep up with him. And he's nothing like me

in the way of he's not from the streets. He wasn't like in a gang or nothing like that. I was always trying to keep up with him. But he's always like, man, go find your own friends. And I did. That's the bottom line of that. That's my story.

Interesting. That's my story is that he told me to go find my own friends. And that's exactly what happened. So your brother would hang with just regular people from school. Yeah, athletes. They're athletes. And your brother play sports? Yeah.

Okay. So he would hang with other kids playing sports, whatever. Yeah. And then he tells you to go hang with someone else. Not go hang with the gangs, but just like, you know, you don't want your little brother around at the time. But, you know, it was ironic because back after he wanted me around, he knew I was, I was popping, you know what I'm saying? Like, I had the women.

I had, like, everything, you know. And he used to say, he used to tell me, can I cuss? Yeah, please. You actually, you're required to cuss. Oh, okay. Yeah, I was trying to, I don't even know if I did or not, but I've been. He used to say, hey, man, you can't fuck them all. Bring some over here for me.

Like, you know, like, he, like, he would know. And he would know that I would, he would like, hey, go get, go talk to her, tell her to bring her friends. So I would go over there, I would get the girls, and then they, you know, spread the love, sort of speak. So was he cool with it or was there, like, tension? So what I'm talking about is when I was a little, when I was young and I was like six, seven, like, you know what I mean?

He didn't want his little brother around. But when I started to get into, like, you know, a little bit older ages as far as being a teenager, yeah, he wanted me around. but it wasn't like go hang with the gangs. That's not what I'm saying. Like go get in trouble or anything. It was just like, get away from me.

You know what I'm saying? And so did you feel like a little isolated at that time? Like when did you first get introduced to someone that was affiliated? Oh, that's okay. So everybody on my baseball team were there were already from there. Oh, really? Like their families and my families were already from there. So we were, I don't know, we were already like, we weren't from there, but we were from there.

We just, like, I don't know. It's like mainly like we grow, we grew a bond out of just defending each other type, you know, and it's like we were kind of adopting like stuff that our families already had in motion. Got you. So like, because your uncle's kind of outside a little bit. And then you have kids on the baseball team who's maybe their dad or their brothers involved. And so then you guys all hang out. You go get food after a game and it's like you're just around it.

Exactly. Gotcha. That makes a lot of sense. I think I smoked weed my first time I was like 11, 10 or 11, but then I started smoking weed every day when I was 12. Damn. So I've been smoking for a long time. Like, I don't want to say every single day, but pretty much every day since I was 12. So, but I was definitely a young age when I was, I was still in sports doing drugs.

And then what, like, so not drugs, but marijuana, you know. But then that's when I found the girl. and girls and marijuana turned me into a rapper. So that's why I guess where it led me to. Yeah. And you start rap when you were middle school? A little bit after that. Yeah, I was 16 when I started.

Maybe I would have probably said a year or two before that prior, I started. But everybody was making fun of me. Nobody was taking me serious. And I just kept going. Wow. And so at what age would you say you're like officially affiliated into like a West Coast gang? when I was 16, I got jumped in. I was already from my hood.

What people don't understand is that I didn't have to get jumped in to my gang. I could have already been from there, but I wanted to get jumped in. Like I wanted to be from a clique. I wanted to be actually say, hey, yeah, he got jumped in. So a lot of people could get from their hood just because of their family is already from there. Not taking credit from them, but a lot of people did get walked into their hood because their families are respected and they have, you know, I'm not saying that they're any softer or they wouldn't do the same thing as the guy that did get jumped in, but yeah, I wanted to make sure that I got

jumped in. It's a right of passage, I think. Yeah. I'm always curious about like that process. Like, because I can imagine that you probably knew a bunch of different guys that were affiliated with maybe different sets or different gangs completely. Like, what drew you down the path of the specific one that you got involved with? I said, you know, it's family. You know, it's family. You know what I mean? It's basically defending something that our families had already started. So it was basically like... So it was clear.

It was like... It's like, you know how some people, some families passed down heirlooms? We get passed down gang violent and gang beefs. We don't even know what it really is all about. And you're carrying on beefs from generations ago that you don't even know where it started. We don't know where it started. We just know what's going. And so can you tell me about the process of getting jumped in?

What does that look like? Usually there's a homie there that's like don't like you and wants you to try to make you fuck up your life. And it's either up to you to get out of that or embrace it and you go in. And that's one of the things I just made a video on my YouTube. I was saying gang life is no joke. I made a commitment once I got from there. It's going to be forever.

It might sound dumb to say. some people, but also this is all that I got in a sense. This is my legacy. And I don't want to take from anyone else or any other game because just to each their own. But I parlayed that into something even bigger. I took that raw street, rugged, that grind, that struggle. And I turned it into something to be productive, positive, beneficial, and even sometimes uplifting, positive, impacting a lot of people's lives. So I turned all that around, too.

Yeah, that's cool. But not to take away from anybody, like I said, but at a very young age, I know that this is what I was going to do. What's up, guys? We're going to take a break really quick because it's 2024. And it's time to talk about something important. When you are seriously hurt, your injury could be worth millions. Yes, that's right.

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So they know it's true. I, yeah, you get jumped in by two, three, sometimes four people. I, I had three. Okay. And so you show up to like a. No, like I said, there was a guy that doesn't like you and they're like, hey, come over here. We're going to put you on the set and they're going to fuck up your life and they want to test you too. And they want to beat you up.

But when, you know what I'm saying? Like when you don't fold and you show them that you got heart, then they start respecting you. And they're like, hey, homies, cool, whatever. Which, like, right after that, I was like, you don't got to tell me. I know I'm down. Like, yeah, you're down. Like, I knew I was down.

I didn't do this for you. I did it. I wanted to get jumped in. Yeah, you could have been. I was already from there. I was already from the hood. But I got jumped into my clique. And I'll say that to the day that I died.

I've been for Norwalk before I got jumped in. And then when I got jumped in, I was, I'm from the, I'm from the locals, clip. And how did, did you get like, like, uh, like, black eye, like, were you fucked up? He's just, no, see, that's what I'm saying. Is it just like, they did? Yo, so you really fought back. I'm a fighter.

But is that not? I trained. That's the thing. A lot of people don't train. I train my whole life fighting. Oh, really? I've trained my whole life. Like with, like, uh, fighting.

Like with, like, instructors or just like learning on the street? Training, training. Oh, wow. Yeah. So, on the street, training. I've done boxing. I did, I've done like karate, I've done taekwondo, I do jujitsu, I do all that. So these guys, like, they're like, all right, we're going to get you on the set.

Yeah, but see, they don't understand is that when they're fighting somebody that has hands, that wild thing is not going to work to us. So it was like fighting one person. So they start wailing on you. They tried. No, they didn't even hit me. What? They maybe got me a few times.

I don't want to say that, but I'm saying they didn't leave me no marks. I think they were busted up and shout out to shout out to my people. They know who they were that jumped me in. They know what happened that day. And I got love for them too. They, you know, they're my boys and it's just, it is what it is.

And were they cool with you after? Yeah, hell yeah. I still, I was one of them, still like one of my closest homies from there. So shout out my boy silent, dog. I love you. But that's not normal though. Like if you're getting jumped in,

you normally like you get hit, but you just try to tough it out. Yeah, That's what you're supposed to. They're supposed to basically you're just getting tested to see if you got hard enough to take an ass whooping. That's all. If you're not going to run, if you're there with me

and they're going to come and jump me, I need to know that you're ready to get beat up with me too. Like we got to just have each other's back. In other words, you're not going to run. You're not going to bitch out. And a lot of times it's like we're going to die together type of shit. So we got to find out if you're at least able to get beat up. Wow.

Or fight. You don't have to get beat up. Like in my case, I didn't get beat up. Bro, you like, so you kind of got jumped in, but you also just beat the shit ass of guys. In a sense, in a sense. Yeah, but that's the test, though.

That's the test. Yeah. Wow. And so from that day forward... I was known to be a fighter. And you were now affiliated with the specific gang, and that's what it was. Yeah.

I was already affiliated. Why not... Why not go all the way? Make an official get jumped in. Yeah, yeah. And did you, when did you get your first tattoo? I got my daughter's name, tatied on me.

Oh, really? Yeah. That was the first one. Yep. That's cool. When you were like 16. See, I didn't get, right away, I got that just to get it. Like, I wanted it.

I wanted one. And then, but the very next, like, tattoo I got, I got my whole back done. Right away. Right away. And what was the back piece? What was it? It's, like, real big. It says my hood across my back.

It says Norwalk real big. And then it says, at the bottom of my back, it says, smile now, die later. It has an S real big. It has an E real big. And in the middle, in the background, it has a big alley, which stands for. for Southeast L.A. So, and then it has like all collages all inside with different stuff. Wow, that's fire.

But it was all done with single needle from the, the homie that jumped me in, silent. My boy, silent, yeah. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. So he did it. Yeah, he did. And he's a tattoo artist and so he, wow. Single needle guitar string with the, with the machine, with the homemade machine.

It came out dope, though. A single needle guitar string? Yeah. That's how, like, it was a homemade tattoo gun. Yeah. That's crazy. Crazy. And it sounds, it sounds crazy, but it was probably even more crazier than it sounds.

Were you nervous going into it? Like, yo, this dude's going to ink my whole back. I can't see it. I don't even know what he's doing the back there. Like, did that not freak you out? I trusted him. Wow. I trusted him.

But you know what? The machine messed up and he wanted to fix it and we'll finish it tomorrow. I said, no, that's one thing I didn't want him to do was just to leave it unfinished. So we sat there for like 18 hours. We were doing drugs and getting drunk and he kept it kept messing up and When you when you're getting tatted for so long your your body starts to reject the ink and it starts it's not it doesn't start to stay so It was hard for him to get the ink in and but it's probably just him to you know I'm all drugged out too. Like I said it came out fine

That's crazy bro. It was lucky I don't know any one of my friends that I would trust to tattoo me I don't have one friend that I'd be like, y'all, I bet you put some permanent on my body. Yeah, I've seen his work. He's pretty good. Yeah. Before that, now he's even better. Yeah.

He's dope. That's crazy, bro. I mean, shout's out to him. Yeah, I got a lot of artists from my hood that are tattoo artists that are like, they're just super dope things. They're tatting NFL players and, like, all the top athletes. Yeah, so I have a couple homies that are like that from my head. That's cool.

So now from 16, you're officially in. you're getting tatted up, you're rapping, you're meeting girls, you have a daughter. Yeah. Like that, like, you have so many, like, life things that are having all of, like, a really, like, short span right around, like, pretty early, you know, like, 15 to 16 years old. Like, when you found out that you were going to have a daughter, was that scary to you, or were you like, I bet, that'll be, like, that'll be cool. Like, what was your initial feeling?

Do you remember? Yeah, I remember it was, uh, it was surreal, but at the same time, um, I was ready for it. I knew that that was going to calm me down, and that's, in fact, what happened. So I got signed to my record deal at the same day my daughter was born. Wow. Like I signed to a quarter million dollars. Wow. Yeah, at 16.

A matter of fact, I met, I got a, you remember Pagers? Yeah, yeah. I got a page. That's how long ago it was. I got a page, and I called them back from the hospital. They wanted to meet me. So I told, hey, I got to go. They want to sign me to a record deal.

And, yeah, I walked in there. And I knew people were getting burned a lot. So I made my mind up to where I wasn't going to sign it. It was until it was in my best interest. There was no way I was going to get rid of or let go of my stuff. So that's what I did. I walked out of the meeting a few times. But even though I was gangster, even though I was, you know, I'm with the business.

Like, I'm down for whatever. That didn't mean that I didn't have intelligence too. My parents started paying for our school at a lot. I went to private school since I was in preschool. So my parents paid for my education my whole life, basically, until I went to high school because I was a problem in private school, and they were paying the money for me to be there, and I was just out of hand.

So they put me in private school. Wow. But I got my education from a private school. Right. I mean, you're obviously like a sharp dude. You know what I mean? You know about Marcus Raleigh's? You're talking about stoicism?

Yeah, yeah. I love that. I love that. I'm into deep thinking, for sure, 100%. I love that. It's what intrigues me. Sometimes I get a little bit down that in any type of field that I'm, whatever I'm studying, that I found all the information already.

So I'm like, I know the same thing that the leading researcher of this field knows now. I just, now what do I do? They have the money to go do the research. I got to wait for them to get, to bring it back to me. I sometimes wish that I had the money to go and do my own kind of research. on certain things. Oh, that's interesting. Wouldn't that be crazy?

Wouldn't that be... It'd be the dream, right? To go out there, start researching the Anunnaki, get to the bottom of it? See who they were, what they were. I believe they were a lot older than what they tell us. So I know there's a...

There's some truth or some... Some truth that they're hiding at. Yeah. For sure. So if you were to be fully honest, you think, at the time when you were like 16, what do you feel like you were searching for that you were like,

yo, I'm going to, like, get involved with the gang or, like, I'm going to rap. Like, were you searching, like, oh, I want to be remembered. I want legacy. I want girls. Like, what do you feel like was your prime motivation

in that time specifically? You know what? That's a good question. I feel like I'm getting, I'm seeing a psychiatrist where we're unlocking things right now because, you know what? I never even asked myself that question

and thinking about it right now, I would probably say I didn't even see a future. When you're in the shark tank and you're swimming with sharks, You just got to be a shark. Yeah. It's about today. And like you can't think about five years ago.

So I would literally think that it would be my last day or minute every time I turn the block. Really? Because there's this space in between a corner that you, and I'm from the one way. So all the streets are one way. There's this space from here to here that once you get to a certain spot, if a car's coming and there's your enemies, it's a, it's a, rap you better have something just enough to get away or you know um get them or whatever but so every day and every block imagine that yeah i always thinking it's your last so yeah you can't plan for nothing like you can't look at the future you can't be like oh in five years i'll do this like every day you're

just like that's why we're i think a lot of us are thankful too for the for the good times because of those those times are stressful like you said it's it's yeah any more i'm every and any moment you I've seen people get killed in front of me you know so I know that it could go it could go bad real I had got um I got kicked out I think I was around the same time no matter of fact I was 15 years old because I hadn't had my daughter yet I this situation um happened right before I had my daughter but one of my friends got uh got shot in front of me but I was at the spot and could have been me, you know. And that was one of the reasons why I was like,

now I have to have my gun and I have to be even more cautious. And, you know, that's just, that was one of the things that made me want to carry a gun all the time too. I mean, I already had it, but knowing damn well, like, if you don't and you need it, you're going to regret it, you're going to pay with it for your life for not having it. You could get caught with it. You might, you know, do a little time, but you're going to get out.

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And dipped out. And then you were there with him. Yeah, well, yeah, I was not necessarily there with them because there was other people there and they were getting the body and trying to take it to the hospital type, you know. So like I said, if it would have been me And I had just walked away So one of my friends That were at his house He was babysitting his sister

And he's like, hey man, let's get her in the house Man, we don't need to be out here with her So me, him and her had just walked in And right after You look out the window Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly Fuck I mean

And at that point that doesn't scare you Like it doesn't make you think Well, I want to leave this life It makes you think like What can you, you can't leave that life Yeah You can't leave it. So, just be prepared.

I don't want to say it scares you. I mean, to extent, yeah, it does scare you, but not to where it's going to, you can't, like I said, just because one of your sharks went down doesn't mean you can stop being a shark. Yeah. And did your parents know that you were getting involved? Yeah, they knew. And were they, like, kind of cool with it? They know even to this day, like, right before I left on this tour that I am doing, I told my mom and I said, you know what, this is who I am.

And no matter what happens to me right now, just know I love you. And I'm ready to do, I'm ready to go. And anything at any time, I'm just ready for whatever comes my way at any time now. So, and then my mom says, I know when you're serious. So I'm not going to even try to say, just try to be careful. I talk to my mom every day. but you know she's like I know you already I know what you mean so like she's just what can they do what can they really do but love me that's all they do

is just love me so she's got my back wow and in and not saying she wants me to go do wrong because that's not what I mean of course I'm saying she got my back as a mom shit you know as a yeah yeah yeah that's that's far thankful for that yeah yeah that Mexican mom love his different bro I'll be honest yeah yeah yeah that Vicks vapor rub late at night calling you poppy you know i mean that's it's different she would uh would for that and that's what i'm saying we we we have a lot of love yeah and uh what's the opposite it like so when you feel this that kind of love from that okay so that's like one of the highest forms of love what's what's what's after that maybe children yeah your own children god a marriage but a mother's love is but they're

right there together right so when you feel the best best best love you feel the best best love you then you can also, you have the opportunity to feel the opposite of that, which is the complete destruction and just chaos that comes with not having that. You know, even if you had it, you could lose it. Even if you never had it, it's something that you yearn and long for. That's why I gravitate to a lot of my friends too, because they don't have that, that mother and the father that's there and still there for them.

They've never had it. A lot of my best friends, they're not, they don't have that. And I think that's why I gravitate to them. Yeah. It's something that I've learned about myself. And I've sat there and I've seen like, man, do I befriend these guys for a reason? And that's what I'm saying. Sitting here with you today, I'm going to, and I like to think that I'm a person that

likes to deep think. I mean, you definitely. I want to have to self-reflect on this now, too, because a lot of things. that we suppress. I think I mentioned it to you before we started is that when somebody that you respect or somebody that you believe to have the knowledge such as Marcus Aurelius or Markertalinger and that when somebody like you addresses that to me that opens my eyes. You know what I'm saying? My friend with the tats all whatever he might say the same thing but whatever right and vice versa I might be

saying that and people might shun away from it but now I might have to self-reflect on a lot of different things that I was probably trying to suppress yeah it's just it's interesting bro I mean like yeah your story is just really fascinating because like especially you're like at a private school like you have like a brother that's not affiliated and then but like something draws you in and uh it was those guys yeah that they didn't have the dad mm-hmm that I probably felt bad for yeah that I'll give him my clothes You know what I mean? And that became the community.

And then once you're in, it's hard to get out. Like, I completely resonate with that. I don't want to get out. Yeah. I wish it was different. I'm not going to get. I won't get out. And why?

What do you mean by that? I made a lifetime commitment. This is who I am and this is what's going to be. So to be a man of your word, you're like, I'm sticking with it. Not to be a matter of my word, just because to stay true to who I am, that's it. If I was something else and if I maybe I will, but at the end of the day, I'm a believer in God. So even then, I'm still going to be, you know,

I'm still going to be how I'm going to still be a shark. Yeah. How are LA gangs different than other gangs around the country that you're aware of as far? Like New York gangs, Florida gangs, so they all function basically the same way. I'll tell you what. The New York people in general are super rude out here. Shout out to my people out here. Y'all are just too slow, bro.

That's what it is. Y'all just get in the way. You walk too slow. Like, Californians, y'all are smoking weed, chilling. Yeah, yeah. So is that what it is? Is that what it is? It's like the hustle and bustle?

That's what I think. Like, my opinion, like, I'm from Florida, which is like a little bit more chill. But, like, when I came to New York, I feel like I fit in because I really like to keep, I like to go. I like to go fast. And so y'all out in California, like to chill.

Yeah. Smoke some weed. Wake up a little later. Go to the beach. Like, there's very much, like, a mentality of like enjoyment of life and the weather's amazing so everyone's chilling. But then in New York it's like the weather sucks

for half the year. You know what I mean? Like it's we're all living on top of each other. Right now is nice. But everyone's living on top of each other. People are tired. People are like living in little apartments with roommates. And so everyone's just trying to get after it.

And so when someone's like standing in the middle of a sidewalk and they don't know where they're going, it's not that New Yorkers are rude. They're just sort of focused. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. I get what you're saying. And the way that you described it now, I could see that.

Like I think if you went up to anyone on the subway and you're like, hey, man, is this train going to Brooklyn or Manhattan? They'd be like, oh, yeah, yeah, it's going to Brooklyn. No problem. Like, they would be very respectful. My homie tried to talk to someone to find out where we're going. Like the first three or four people are just ignored it. No way. Yeah.

Damn. It might be a you thing then, but I think it's always. So we went to this store and they're like, you're not from around here, huh? And they were like, yeah, how did you guess? They're like, we could just tell. Yeah, we could just tell, you know. What happened with the car? So, like, you know, there's different lanes, right?

So this car is on the far lane. The freeway's getting, you're merging to the freeway on the left. And they're all one-way streets, right? We're right here. And the car comes up speeding, honks the horn, and just cuts all the way through. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That'll happen.

That'll happen. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that one, too. we got trapped in and we pushed the car back with our car to get out of there no way we're just like we had to make it here wait what happened you got trapped in because you couldn't

get out yeah we couldn't get out so we pushed the car back and we took that that's a European thing people do that in France all the time like they have like little like bumper covers because people will just like if they're stuck too tight they'll just put their bumper in you and then like and then move you back and then dip it doesn't affect the car at all it didn't really affect the car

we did either when you said really that made me thing of the fact of that. Well, it might have. We dipped out of there. We were out of there. And then we were like, we should record it. And I was like, I'm not going to record us doing it. Your crime? Yeah, I said, I'm not going to record it doing it. Yo, y'all are crazy. That's wild. This is for me, right?

Yeah, yeah, that's for you. Please. That's the DJ. But yeah, I just maybe California's just don't out of drive. Maybe y'all got to acknowledge that. Maybe parallel parking is hard. I'll tell you what. It's a lot different, but I get what you're saying. We are more lay back out there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But as far as the gangs go now, we'll get back into that. The L.A. gangs are, okay, now we'll get into that. I don't know if it's like that out here, but how you guys said are living all up on top of each other. That's how the L.A. gangs are. Every street, every other street is a different gang. So it's like you're going to go to the gas station.

You're going to see one of your enemies putting gas. And it might be the same guy that you were with the other day that shot your homeboy or beat up your homie and the familiar faces around. So it's just like, that's how the gangs are. It's just all on top. Every other street, every street, sometimes you can have the same street and this side of the street be one gang

and this side of the street be one gang. I even heard where the same apartment complex is housed different gangs in them. So, I mean, like, how does that work? So, of course there's going to be violence. Yeah, exactly. How does that work, though? They're so close.

Yeah, like, everybody should have been dead already right there. That's crazy. So can you explain the difference between a gang and a set? So a gang is like... So let's say like the gang is a football team and a set will be offense and defense. That'll be two different sets. And sets can beef with each other.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, same sets beef with each other too. It just depends. And I'm not saying beef with each other like as a whole, but personally... Right, there could be conflict. Yeah, yeah. but personally but not not necessarily whole clicks got that's not what it is so then like in your

neighborhood for example like the different streets are they all different gangs or like different sets a part of the same gang so and as far as my my city goes there's there's a it's mainly we're the majority um but there is a spot where the the line crosses the like i said that the next side of the street is our sworn enemies um so it It's definitely, the cliques are not, we're not engaging with any type of warfare. We might be fighting amongst ourselves fighting. And there is bloodshed every now and then. But we usually focus on the enemies.

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It's a very big demographic. You could have to be more specific because it could be, there could be a gangster out there that's doing the most, and he's wearing a suit and tie, we're driving up vans, and going to his banker job for during the day, but then coming home and, you know, nobody knows what he's doing. or what I'm saying is that's too big of a scale to say what is a gang member doing. Yeah, like a typical gang member, they're doing gang members shit.

You know what I mean? It could be drugs, alcohol, you know, theft. I know a lot of times they're stealing stuff to get the drugs. You know what I mean? That's what their day-to-day hustle is to get the money to get the drugs. Yeah. By any means. But there's ultimately like some type of hustle,

Whether it's like selling drugs, whether it's scamming people, whether it's stealing. If you want to get some money there is, yeah. Yeah, I mean, you got to do something. It's either drugs, you know, women, women, you know, prostitution. Yeah, everybody has advice, especially out there with all the drugs going around. And then they're getting, they get desperate. That's when they start robbing and stealing gun points and willing to kill. or die for the drugs, that's when it starts getting harsh.

I think it all boils down to the drug use because I don't think regular people or that banker that drives the bands is out there sticking up people to get a couple bucks out of their pocket. But if he was hooked on smack, he's doing heroin, he's doing something, he's doing blow.

Yeah, and there's a lot of people that could hold it together and you never would know that they're like that either. Right. You know, a lot of people behind closed doors, excuse me, they're a whole different person. But you get a little bit desperate, then all of a sudden it's like, yeah, you've got to do desperate things.

Yeah, definitely. If that addiction consumes you, that's exactly what you're done for. That's why I never did nothing really super hard. Yeah. I never did heroin or nothing. I would never do anything like that. As far as like all the other drugs,

I might have tried them. But I might have to see what they smelled like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You ever do mushrooms? Yeah, I do. I still do. Is it productive for you? Is it fun?

In a sense, it's more, I don't try to be productive on that. It's not, it's not to be productive. Yeah, it's more fun. Yeah, yeah, it's more just to have a chill time. That's cool. Yeah, that's why I do it. Or, like, not only to have a good time, but to, like, actually try to tap into a, a higher

we don't get the good ones we don't get the good mushrooms what do you mean the magic mushrooms they're different wait what? Wait what? So there's different levels of mushrooms obviously they do different things

the real magic mushrooms are the red the red um mushrooms have you ever had a red mushroom I don't think so I mean either because they're too hard to get for us and like I would say like the equivalent to

a red red uh uh Magic mushroom would be some ayahuasca. Oh, really? It's like that. In a sense, it taps into those different kind of senses that, you know, we get, we would get on like, say, LSD or something or acid, opiums or something like that. But, like, for example, the ayahuasca, it taps into, like, a whole other, like, what, I guess it's like almost like, dream. but awake. There's a whole different plane.

Yeah, I've been wanting to try that. You would try it? Yeah, 100%. If I knew it was legit, I know that in Peru, they have, like, is like one of the main, I think that's where the source of the ayahuasca plant is at. Everything has, you can extract anything, like any living organism,

you can extract DMT out of it. It's just how to do it, we don't know. Yeah, but we're naturally, produce and DMT inside of our brains. Exactly. Yeah. We have everything, everything that we have it of, that we've made from medicine, we have that in our body already. Is that true?

What do you mean by that? Like everything that we've gotten at as far as medicine-wise, we have it inside of us already. We produce it to some extent. Interesting. Yeah. So just like how some people take testosterone. Right, we have testosterone. Yeah, people take human growth hormones.

Right, right, right. And so. I see what you said. Okay. So then you never really got involved in the drug game, but there's some dudes that got heavy into drugs and then they get hooked. Like, I'm sure you probably seen some people that just got like, you know, just kind of destroyed by the. Smoked all their teeth and their brains away, yeah. Some talented people.

And there's that saying, the worst thing is wasted. talent or something like that. It's true because a lot of people waste their time. Look at all those stories that you hear, these ex-basketball players that are now on the street and homeless, and they were just making millions of dollars, but the drugs. Yeah.

It's always the drugs. And that's what I'm saying. That's when you know they love that shit more than anything else. What do you know about the crime in L.A.? Like right now people always talk about, oh, there's so much crime in L.A. Right now they call me Crime Stopper. Wait, why? I'm the crime stopper

Can you expand on that on that nickname? I stop crimes So everyone's like concerned about all this crime Everyone's like oh the cars are getting broken into Like you know the toothpaste is getting stolen out of CVS Like there's all sorts of like burglaries that are happening da-da Yeah yeah What in your opinion what is going on

Like is it gangs that are doing the crime Is it just random dudes? Yeah, I think it's just randoms. Really? Yeah, because it's so easy to get away with it nowadays. All those people are running into the stores and stealing everything off the Nikes or stealing everything out of the store and just, what do they call it, a stash and grab? Yeah, smash and grab.

Smash and grab or whatever. Yeah. They're doing that a lot nowadays. So it's easier to get away with it and people are just getting away with it, so they're doing it. But it's not gang activity. It's just a random druggy or something like that. It's not necessarily not a gang, you know? It's not necessarily not a gang.

Those are maybe gang members. Nowadays, you can't even really tell who's who anymore. You can't tell who has a gun anymore. I was in Arizona for the last month and a half, and I've seen a lot of the females out there packing guns. No way. Yeah. Big old guns.

guns. Really? Yeah. Like... Like... Like open carry or like... Not open carry. But like in...

I think it's legal out there. Right. To do concealed carry. I don't know if it's concealed carry or to just have it or... I don't know exactly the law out there. Sure. But everybody's got a gun.

Yeah. If you don't, you need to get one. Well, in New York, we can't really have them. Well, can't really. Yeah. Some people can't. Well, there's... Well, that's what I'm saying.

I kind of felt a little uneasy today at one of the stops that I went to. But that's when I overcompensate. And I was like, I was trying to be a little bit brave too. Not a little bit brave, but I'm saying like, okay, let me see if these guys are really. Because my boy's rocking jewelry. I'm rocking jewelry. And I don't know. You know what I'm saying?

We're basically out of bounds. And someone try to press you? No, no, no. Not that they did. I was just on my toes. Ah, I see. And we stopped into a little rough neighborhood to get a sandwich. Yeah.

You know, so. And yeah, you got some shit on you. You don't know the people. You don't know who's in the neighborhood. We got money. We got stuff. Yeah. And they know we ain't from around here.

Yeah. And on top of that, you came cross-country. Which is going to limit some of the protection you can bring with you. Exactly. Yeah. But that's why I said. I still move. I'm basically by myself.

I always tell my people whoever's with me, just let me handle this and get to safety. Yeah, that's really interesting. That's what I want from them is just them to get to safety. So do you still live in your neighborhood? Yeah.

And you would never move out? No, I would. You would? Yeah, yeah, I would. I have. Okay. Yeah, yeah, I have lived in quite a few places. When I got my first day,

deal, I was gone. I said I never leave, but once I got my money, I was gone. How much money from that first deal? Quarter. Wow. And did that blow your mind? Like, what did you think when you got a quarter mill? That's 16? Yeah, it was amazing. It changed my life, obviously. I'm talking to you now. I mean, how crazy is that, though? A 16 years old, someone gives you a quarter mill. And what was the obligation? What did you have to do?

Make music? Was it a specific album? Yeah, yeah, three albums. It was a three album deal. Got it. So three albums. Matter of fact, so what had happened, I walked out on the deal a couple of times, but when I finally did sign the actual paperwork, I wanted to do it in the street, in my hood.

So I made them come to my hood for me to finally sign it there in front of all of my friends, like my real ones. Wow. So I was like, okay, now this is what we got. You're going to come back over here and we're going to do it. And what happened was, yeah, I walked up on the hole. I walked up with like six of us and walked up to my, there was the vice president of the label at the time, Brahmin.

He was actually like one of my mentors that helped me get my license. Because I was super young, he helped me get my license. He taught me about business and they were a family. I was with them for like 15 years. 15 years. Wow. And so you did those three albums? Yeah.

And then more albums after that? Yep, they had to re-signed me again. They signed me three times. Oh, wow. So every time I got more. What's the first thing you spent that, like, what's the first thing you bought with that money? For myself? For just, period.

Yeah, period. Um, I gave it to my mom. Really? How much? That's what it would, that's what it would do. That's what it would, that's what anybody would do. I say probably more than, like, 60. Wow.

First off. And, like, how did you give it to her? Like, cash? No, no, we built on her house. And what did she say? say when you told her? They're the reason why I had got it. Anyways, they knew it out. They know what time it is.

Like, they know I would do anything for them. They'll do anything for me. It's, it wasn't nothing big. It wasn't like, it was just more. They were just proud of me. Like, I got a message from her today, what was pretty cool. And she said, um, I miss you, son. And, um, I know you're out there doing it big. And, you know, so that, that means, they, they got my back.

We just, it's, it's nothing. It doesn't mean. It's not like, it wasn't like, it wasn't like. They have money. My mom and dad had money back then, you know? I mean, still do, but at the end of the day, it was just normal. But at 16, like, give your mom 60 racks and, like, build onto her house and shit, that's crazy. It was a blessing, yeah, it was a blessing.

And then I got signed again two more times, an escalation deal, so I got paid more. So that's what I'm saying. The money was just there. Did you feel any pressure to then deliver on those albums? Like, when you were in the studio, actually working on them? I had a pressure only on it. on the fact that I knew I had all kinds of music to write. That's the only pressure that I had.

I was like, damn, I got a lot of music to write. Yeah. It's just like, I mean, how many albums or how many songs had to be on the album? Do you know? Whatever I wanted. Okay. But typically you like to do... 20.

So in your mind, you're like, okay, I got to write 60 songs. Yeah. I had ended up writing like over 100. Wow. And then when you go in there record, you're not like, oh, I got to deliver. That way they resign me. Are you like, oh, I can... I'm just going to do it.

my thing? Never really cared. Wow. I just went in there and I still do just have fun. I just have fun with it. And as far as like collaborations with those first three albums and like the actual process of writing those songs and the lyrics and the things you poured into it, where did all of that come from? Who were the features that were like the most interesting or that you were most excited about? Like what were some of the beats along the way that change your perspective on your career? Well, as I started to gain more fans, more recognition, I started to take you a little more serious and I did move. See, that's where I used a lot of my money too. I moved. And I kind of got away from all that stuff for a while. What did you do? I went somewhere quiet. Okay. Yeah,

I went somewhere quiet. It wasn't very far, but I want to say maybe about an hour and a half away from LA. But you got out of the mix. Yeah. Just to be chill. With my family, yeah. And was that peaceful? No, because my baby mama was tripping on me all the time.

She made that shit. You're like, yo, put me back in the gang violence. Yeah, exactly. I don't want to deal with this lady yelling at me all the time. That is wild. No, yeah. So, no, I wasn't that. No, a matter of fact, it got a lot more stressful.

So the more quiet and peaceful a place you went to, the more stressful your life got. Yeah. Why? Because when everything's hectic already, you expected to be hectic. You're used to that. But when you get some peace

and some serenity, then you kind of like, oh, wait a minute. You know, I've been dealing with this and I could, this, like, you kind of like, you kind of even get more mad at people that have that kind of life.

Because you're like, damn, these people are living really like this. And I don't want to say that I was all super well off, but, you know, I made some money and I didn't have to go to work. I was with them all the time, and that's maybe why too. We were always bumping heads and stuff, and she just, you could imagine, that was my downfall was the wrong person to be with. Oh, really? That was down. My worst downfall of my music careers is picking the wrong person. Why?

She would call the cops on me and say that I hate her. and just to not make me go to my shows. No way. Yeah. So you have a show booked. Mm-hmm. You got to go someplace. And she would call the cops because she didn't want you to leave?

Yeah. And then she would go and sign the affidavit, which is a statement saying that she wasn't going to court and she wasn't going to press charges or nothing like that. So once the cops came, you got detained, and then you missed your show. Then she'd be like, ah, never mind. Forget it.

after I went and I bailed out, I got a lawyer, and I spent more than I was making at the show, then everything was squashed. And then, yeah, so that's what I'm saying. I wasted a lot of money doing that, like playing games with that. So how long were you, like, in a different place with her and you guys were just fighting? 12 years.

12 years? Fuck, bro. And what stopped you from after, like, six months being like, all right? Okay, so 12 months, and then, um, Yeah, she ended up being with someone else. After 12 years? Yeah. But after like a couple months, why didn't you just leave?

Oh, why didn't I leave? Yeah. Because it was my family. We take that. Yeah. I guess obviously you got your daughter. You're not going to just like walk out of her. But as far as like getting a divorce and being like, hey, I'm going to see.

Oh, yeah, we're not married. Right. Yeah, yeah. But like as far as being like, I'm going to see the baby on the weekends. like I'm going to come through like we're going to co-parent whatever and everyone's going to be happier

that was never an option because you're like yo this is my family I ought to stick through it wow I'll just cheat on her and but then how does that

affect the music specifically how does that affect oh and then I wouldn't I wouldn't even be able to say the stuff that I it was like it's still kind of borderline where like I'm talking

so as artists we have freedom of speech right I could say whatever I want I could say I murdered that guy right there and it's freedom of speech right people talk about killing on the album all the time well i didn't have freedom of speech with her because i i couldn't say things that they were that were explicit to other women so i had i have i had constraints on what i could say on the streets because it was getting too real and then this so for the longest time i backed off and i

didn't even do no music because why i made a deal where i didn't have They still had to pay me. Oh, really? So I was getting paid without doing anything for like eight years, ten years. Yeah, so you're in a system where you don't have to actually put out anything, still get money. I was still putting out albums every, one album every like two to three years. Okay. Which is, that's not enough.

As far as if you wanted to build a career or a bigger following than I had already. Right. And especially because you had like that initial heat right in that moment, you're like, you're like, you like, you'll like, I can't could go three times as hard and it could go crazy but the deal is set up where you're like you're like I'm getting pain anyway who gives the shit exactly yeah that's and plus I was on the run from a lot of other things like legal um issues and and then when they finally caught me um I beat the case in like like three months after being on the run for 10 years I beat the case in three months and that's when I came back to the music again can you explain what the case was

Uh, I'll say this. Uh, when they caught me, they raided my grandmother's house in my hood, um, looking for a murder suspect. I mean, were you- But I didn't do it because that's why I'm here. Yeah, you beat the case. But like, were you pissed off that like they went into your grandma's house? The thing was is why I was pissed off that they had my, my baby mama and my kids on the floor. Yeah, like that's fuck. Well, they waited for her to leave.

They pulled, they got her at the, the store. Later, like, they pulled her over at the store, and they pulled her out of the car with my kids, out of the car and everything, but they waited for her to leave. They didn't, they didn't hit my grandma's pad until she left. Gotcha. And then they were, quote, looking for a murder suspect.

Yeah. Gotcha. And so for 10 years, you were like, y'all, I'm going to get, they're going to try to put this on me. No. I wasn't, I wasn't worrying about that. I just said that that's what they were looking.

That's what they raided in my house for. Gotcha. That's just what the charge was. And so you're like, okay, I don't want to deal with this. And then after they catch up with you, three months later, gone. Did you go to court? Yeah. How was that? Super quick and easy because shout out to Jack Whitaker and Brandon Wood.

They made me... It was expensive. Yeah. Makes sense. That Brandon Whitaker, that sounds like a... Brandon Wood. That's a wealthy name. Yeah, Jack Whitaker.

Jack Whitaker and Brandon Wood. You're going to pay a lot for those names, bro. Yeah. They're definitely... Jack Whitaker's actually helped multiple people in my family from a couple of things. Oh, that's cool. So he got the track record. And recently, he retired, so I was like, oh, I better...

I better chill out now. Jack's done. So, but Brandon's still out there, so. Did you serve time in prison? Never. Never. Never. How many times you've been arrested?

Just as far as, like, as far as being detained and kept, I've gotten, I've gotten detained. I've ran from the cops where they catch me and they let me go because they don't have nothing. Yeah. They don't have it on me. Anything. I don't catch any me with nothing on me. Yeah, yeah.

But I didn't, I know. I've only, I only did that little time when I was fighting that. Oh, wow. So you were always smart, like never... Well, think about it like this. From 10 years of not... You know? So it was...

I was just chill. Yeah. And then after... After Dibo leave, I'd be talking again. You know what I'm saying? Like, once I beat the case, I was back out there acting full or something. And when did you get your first face tattoo?

I don't know. I don't even remember. Really? I don't know remember which one it is. I don't remember when. You don't remember? Mm-mm. Wow.

Here's the thing about my tattoos. If it makes sense is that I got a tattoo for every time I was hurt emotionally. Every single time I was hurt emotionally, I went to get a tattoo so I could feel physically pain rather than the emotional pain. Wow. That's real tough. Did you know that in the time? I do that. Really?

Do you think a lot of people do that? I don't think they do, they know that, but subconsciously, I believe that's what they're doing. I think that's what people that get tattoos are, they hurt people. Wow. And when you get the tattoo, the sensation of the actual needle going to your skin, it creates a physical pain that distracts you from the emotional pain. Exactly. Wow. Because think about it, people might be sitting there and say, that's not true because I'm not sad.

I'm not sad or I'm not hurt. I'm just getting this because it reminds me of my mom or it reminds me of my friend or we got my, like something that's symbolic, which that means that there's a deeper meaning that hits some type of core feeling, whether it be happy, sad, or, you know, anything in between. So I believe that there's a underlying feeling that they were trying to suppress. Wow. I mean, this would be similar to like people that would like cut themselves. Exactly. I use like a razor blade. That's exactly what I would think it is. Wow.

And it kind of distracts you and moves your mind off of the emotional pain that you're feeling. Yeah. And yeah, it's like someone jumping out of a window. And you're like, why would they jump out of the window? And then you realize that the house is on fire. Exactly. You know what I mean? It's like the pain they feel from one thing is better than the pain they feel from the other thing.

But if you're standing on the ground and you're not in any pain, you're like, man, why would you do that pain? Why would you cut yourself? but it's like yo it's to it's to move yourself away from that that emotional pain and that's why i think i resonate with a lot of people is because i i jumped through that window with no fire in there yeah the the tattoo element is very interesting but that's like really profound i never really thought of it that way what's up guys we're gonna take a break really quick because we got to talk about your amazing dick game yes you you right now listen to my voice my deep soothing voice. You have an amazing dick game. Or maybe you know someone with an amazing dick game. Maybe

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do you think like, oh wow, I got through something difficult? No. Didn't help. How do you see them? When you look at the tattoos, like, what do you see? I see something that I wish I could cover up because I want to get new ones. That's not what I thought you were to say, bro. Man, these tattoo artists are dope out here.

I want to get some new ones. Yeah. You should go before you leave. Yeah, I'll get one. Yeah. You can do it. No, I can't even write, bro. sometimes I got to sign a piece of paper

and my shit looks atrocious. We were at this show the other day and they were doing tattoos at this show and I met someone that got a tattoo and they were just they were crying about it. They were so sad. I'm lucky that for the most part I've got like I said my friends

they're legit tattoo artist. They're tattooing famous people and people are paying top dollar to get tatted by them. But she was super sad that she got this tattoo and she was crying about it, and it happens a lot. Those are the people that are not hurt.

They're just getting a tattoo. And then they look at it and they go, how the fuck did I get this? Yeah. Wow. Do you have any of the regret? Were you looking at it? You're like, yo, this one is kind of dumb.

I got one, yeah. Can you tell me which one? Okay, so do you know the stick figure things that they put on the back of the cars for the family? Oh, yeah, yeah. It's like the mom, the dad. Mom, dad, kids, dog. I got that.

Oh, that's cool. Yeah. But you don't like it? Yeah. Come on. The one you don't like. Yeah, you know the one about like my family? Come on, bro.

That's not the one you're supposed to say. That's the one I don't like. Wait, why don't you like it? Because it's not, it's literally that. Stick figures. Wow, so you don't feel like it fits artistically with the whole piece. Yeah, yeah. That's interesting.

Luckily, it's on a spot where not too many people can see it. your dick. No. That's not what. There is one there though. No. Yeah. Wait, is there really? Yeah. Yeah. Can you tell me what it is? No, Diddy? Um, no, that's, I can't. Yo, that's wild.

It's, it's, it's, um, it's writing. It's, it's, it's writing. On. So it's not like a picture. On? It says, it says, supercalifragilistic. But it just says super? You ran out of space, like, fuck. So I started to go ahead like

It goes around it Bro, that's crazy You got a dick tattoo That's wild Yeah So you're like running out of space now No definitely Yeah I got a little

Part of my head that I'm saving What's the New York one? It's Actually that's a video It went pretty viral Of me explaining What it is So it looks like New York

Right Mm-hmm So today That's what I fooled some somebody from New York. Yeah. I said, no, not you.

I was at the liquor store, right? And this girl was talking to us. She's like, I could tell you guys enough from here. And I said, what do you mean? I showed her to New York, and she goes, oh, you are. And then I took up my hand, and my head it says, Los Angeles real big on the back of my head. She's, like, so confused, right?

But, yeah, it's not New York. It's a B and it's an N. So it's not a YN. Oh, yeah, there's no bottom part. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's a B-N. It stands for Vario Norwalk, where that's my gang. Yeah, so we just, we just changed it up a little bit.

That's fire. And I got a lot of flack from people that were like, that's not for Vario Norwalk, that's for this, or that stands for this, and they're saying what it means to them, hey, to you, that's what that means. But to me and everybody else in the world that doesn't see yours, it stands for Vario Norwalk, fool. Shut up.

Do people treat you different with face tattoos? Yeah, until they get to talk to me. Does it bother you? No. My brother used to tell me like this, isn't that why you got them? You want people to look at you? I'm like, no, but I guess maybe somewhere deep down, yeah.

So I don't get offended no more. I used to, but I'd look at me too. Yeah, like if you're walking down the street, you see it do with face tattoos. Are you a little bit like? Yeah, yeah, but see, that's the thing is that that guy with face tattoos, me, is more respectable

and you could trust this guy more than that guy that's cling cut or... Yeah, in a suit and he's gonna fuck you on some business deal or not only that or just be on some like Jeffrey Dahmer's shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, you never know.

That nice clean cut looking guy could be Jeffrey Dahmer and stuff and I can't because I'm from a gang and if anything, if I ever do anything like that, then I'm gonna get down. which so will they but it's going to be on like a deeper level and that's why I tell my homies I say look and that's why I say I'm in this forever because my homies have put it in and they put in their work they have put in their life and they are in prison for life and they

have done this and they have the whole reason that I am who I am I think is because of the reputation that my my gang has we're known we're known South Siders and and my gang rings bells in prison system oh wow someone dudes get jammed up from from the set, they go in there and they're taking care of like... 100%. Oh, wow. We're very highly respected people in there. Can you explain the process of when someone gets out of prison and what you have to do for them?

In the sense of... Like someone from the gang, let's say they go to prison and then they get out three years later. You go pick them up. I've seen like, I understand there's a subculture of like, oh, we got to take care of them. We got to take them out. We got to give them a chain. We got to like... No, that's not.

We got to make the return home good. Okay, so. Is that a thing? It's a thing. It definitely a thing, but not into that capacity. And what I mean by that is when my boy, Stompers, he did eight. And when he got out, what I did was I just gave him some money so he could go buy some stuff that he might need for himself, but also be able to go and chip in for his family, long enough for him to get on his feet. That's cool. You know what I mean? It's not something that's going to keep him going forever.

and if he was a rapper maybe and he was about to drop some records and stuff and you know but he's just a dude that's doing what he can for his family so yeah we'll drop him some money we'll get him on their feet you know do you think Chicano gangs are different than other types

of gangs like white gangs motorcycle gangs black gangs things like that yeah but we also have some same values you know it's a loyalty thing right you know what do they say there's no honor amongst thieves right But I feel like there's bad apples in every bunch, but there's also solid people.

So you can't discredit the good ones because, and that's the thing about our culture is, if I'm from a gang and I mess up, they're not going to hold it against anyone else. It's on the individual. Oh, really? Yeah, so it's always on the individual. Yeah, there's situations where you could mess up big and you have the green light on your whole hood. everybody you know but that's when you're doing the most you know you already went above and you messed up you know so but we all have the same values it's not so much different but definitely um there's differences too yeah and so when did you get on like an oil derrick like when when did when do when

when are you like a rough neck when my brother passed away um i said i wanted to do something that family could respect and be proud of something that a man would do. And I, what, what, what's more manly than getting out there on the oil rig? So this is recent? Yeah. Wow. That's amazing. Yeah.

I, uh, I was afraid of heights and next thing you know, I'm up there, slanging pipe, um, 90 feet in the air and, you know, dangling out from a rope up there with, with thousand pounds of, uh, block running, flying by my face. And that's another thing. You got to have balls right up there in the oil field. Those are men right there. And why was it your brother's passing that made you want to do that? Because he was the, that's who he was.

He was the head of the household over my mom and dad. He was the man. So when he passed, I felt like I needed to, I had some big shoes to fill. Yeah. And I'm assuming his passing was difficult. Is there even a way to describe what that experience was like? It's a it's a place that I don't wish of nobody. Not even my worst enemy. Not even my worst enemy. That's that kind of a life-changing thing that happened that I'll never be the same person as then.

And so what I did was for a long stretch of time. I did try to do the right thing and now I'm back again doing the wrong thing. Yeah, that's interesting. No, I did. I tried to fill the shoes that I was never going to be able to do that. Yeah. And so his passing was it accidental? Would you mind elaborating on that or do you know what I do?

No, I don't mind. His last day, I was with him all day and we're partying like usual. but we didn't know how serious his heart condition was so it was respiratory complications and due to some of the medication that he was on

so a lot of the people that were taking that medication did pass away wow so we had a heart issue that y'all knew about but you didn't know to what extent yeah and then just had a heart attack one day

that sucks yeah it was it was I had just left. So I felt like if I would have stayed, it would be different. Yeah, of course. That's what we tell ourselves. We're like, oh, man, if I was there, like... I felt like I needed to die too, though.

Just because I don't want my brother to be... I don't know what comes after this world. So I just wanted to experience whatever my brother did, too. Even if I don't go with him, I still don't want my brother to be the only one that experienced that. I felt like I needed to experience death to be able to at least have my brother know that he's not the only one. Whoa. And did you ever consider in that time, like in that darkness?

Well, I gave myself a chance before I do that. And guess where I'm right now? I'm past the chance. And I gave up on a lot of, what I say it, like how I was in the beginning, not thinking about the future. now I go day by day and I'm just, like I said, I'm ready to go for whatever reason. And anybody that takes my life from me,

thank you. Why thank you? What do you mean? We're all going to go one day and I believe in God. So, whether I go to heaven or not, I believe that I will but who knows?

But like I said, I feel like I need to experience, death for two reasons. One, I hate the fact that my brother's the only one that has experienced that. I need to experience that no matter what, just so he's not alone on that in that journey, feeling, or whatever it is. Like I said, it's just bigger than me.

But that I feel guilty. I feel he was the good one. He was the man, you know what I'm saying? Like, you took the wrong one. Everyone thought if I would have been the one that went, it would have been like, fuck, he lasted longer than we thought. You know what I'm saying?

But when it was him, I felt like the wrong one, you know. So I gave myself a chance when I, instead of giving up, I said, okay, I'm going to go get my job. I'm going to go get my mind right and show my family that, you know, I could do this too.

But one day, can I still talk to him? I can still feel him in my heart. I know. And what's crazy about that is that he told me, he's like, hey, you mourn long enough. It's time to get back out there and go do your thing. Say, hey, I know what you mean.

I'm going to do it, but I'm going to do it in my way too, though. And me not giving the fuck is the way I do it. Like, you felt him say that or you heard him say that? I know I know what I'm saying is he didn't mean it to where like he's saying go give up on yourself No no no no I mean

Did you hear his voice Like or did you just feel it in your soul I feel it Wow I felt it I feel it I know I could ask him a question right now And he'll tell me If I if I asked him a question

Hey brother what do you think about this interview That I'm doing right now He's gonna tell me You the fucking shit You're the keep doing it, you know what I mean? He's going to pump me up. He's going to tell me that, yeah, then I'm the man.

Wow. And any of your use of psychedelics, have you ever felt like that connection was closer with you and your brother? I've dreamt about him plenty of time giving me messages, yeah. And what kind of messages? To keep going that I'm on the right path. Wow. And is that affirming for you?

You hear that, and you're like, oh, wow. For sure. We were at this place the other day and I said, I've been here before when I haven't. I said, this is just affirming that I'm on the right path. Wow. I know that I've been places and I know where I'm supposed to be. And that's what I'm saying. Manifesting things and just knowing them are almost the same thing.

But knowing them is stronger. Hmm. And so you went on this oil there for three years. and what lessons did you learn while slinging pipe? A lot. I found a lot of other brothers that I thought were only able to find in the gang. I found brothers that I thought that, you know,

I would never have that connection with people, but we're out there watching each other's back. Our lives are on the line. What's the funniest thing that happened on the Derek? The funniest? Yeah. My fans pull up. They're working for other companies, the crane operators or just like the back trucks or the people bringing the, you know, the equipment.

They recognize me and they get all, they get all like, you know, they fan out. And my boss in the beginning before they know what I do, it's not something that I go and say, oh, yeah, I do this. No, I'm the, you know, I'm the Dercan, you know, I'm out there getting it. So he's fanning out and my boss is like, what the hell? What is he? Why is he acting like this with you? And then, you know, all the rest of the people find out. And now I'm not just the Derek can.

I'm the, you know, little Guete of the rapper too. So that's always something that I always, I mean, it might not be that it's funny. And then also being out on the Derek hardworking and busting ass and just, ass and dangerous. There's not too much things that's that funny. But I could say that a lot of my people that were working out there were, what the hell are you doing now here? But see, I'll

say this, though. They would tell me this. They would say, what are you doing out here if you could do that? Because they look at me in a whole other light than I see myself. And they're like, what are you doing? But see, now I put that

energy and I said, I'm going to use that time instead of me going up there and, you know, latching and unlatching these pipes standing these stands back. I'm not going to give this time to this company. I'm going to give it to myself. And that's what I'm saying. Everything's coming into the way it's supposed to be.

For me anyways. And I put my mind to something almost a year ago and I faced all my fears head on anything that was bothering me, anything that was, well, for the most part, like I said, there's some skeletons that I didn't even realize that I needed to face, which is a good thing. But a long time ago, I said, I have a plan now, and I'm not going to, nothing's going to stop me, nothing's going to deter me from it. I was 240 pounds at once and then I dropped like to like one 163 in like six months. You lost like 100 pounds?

Yeah. Wow. Yeah, almost like 100 pounds. And right now I'm like at 175, 180. Damn. But I made up my mind I wanted to accomplish something. And this is real talk.

To anybody that is listening, you definitely could do anything that you put your mind to. That's 100% true. 100% true. Does this time that you're on the road on tour, does it feel different than the other times you've been on the road or on tour? Do you feel like you're more focused? Do you feel like your purpose is greater?

I feel like I love it, but I'm also out here like I'm searching for something. I'm looking for something What are you looking for? It's somebody to You know Push back or something maybe Like I put myself out there so much

I've said so many things And it's like I'm waiting for somebody to like Give me a reason Like I said before I left on this thing I told my mom I love you And I'm really never thought I was When I gave when I told her by

I thought I was you know That was the last time I was in his ear. I'm like that ready to go. On this trip? Yeah. And do you do that every time? No, I don't.

The last show we were in Amarillo, Texas, I said, I'm not wearing no jewelry, I'm not wearing no glasses, I'm not wearing no hat, I'm not wearing no shirt. I just want to go. AC. His motherfucker.

Should I wake him up? He better wake up, fool. He's good, he's good, he's back. You're fucking snoring, dog. You said you're not going to wear any chain. Yeah, see, I'm waiting for someone to do that to me so I can beat him up. No, I'm just kidding. Wake your ass up, fool.

See, and I have to give them credit too because we've literally been on the road for like almost 48 hours. Yeah, I mean, it's going nonstop. Yeah. But you were just saying you were not going to wear your glasses, not going to wear your hat, not going to wear. Yeah. So, as I was saying, I was saying, I'm ready for war out here. I get on stage, playing, and I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go.

That, to me, feels like you're, like, unhappy. Like, ready to go, be like, yeah, I don't give a fuck. No, I don't. But is unhappiness, or are you just? No, because I'll tell you what, I was just taking pictures of the scenery of New York saying I'm living my best life. You know, Smokie? weed in another state. You know what I mean?

I'm living the dream. I love it. But that doesn't take away from my reality. That's temporary. That's temporary. Like, I soak it in. I enjoy it. I love it.

I'm not, I'm not, I don't want to say ignorant to not accept my blessings. But I'm also ready to give them up at any. anytime. Do you do any funny stories from tour, being on the road, like moving around, doing shows and shit? Let's see.

I have this one that I really like. I was, no, I can't say that one. Can you change the names? Can you pull one piece out? Okay, I guess I can. This is a long time ago. Yeah.

And, you know, when you go on tour, there's females always around, right? There's females throwing themselves at you. and some females don't care if you have a female or you don't, whatever. But there was this time where we were on the road. We were in Tucson, and a mom and a daughter came on to me. Well, I knew the daughter, and the mom ended up trying to join. Well, not trying.

The mom joined in. What? With me and her daughter. What the fuck? Yeah. But that's not the end of it. So what I didn't know was we were in Tucson doing a show. We went to somebody's house and that guy was her, not her dad, but her mom's ex-boyfriend or somebody.

And he was getting mad that the homies were like, you know, messing with his girl, whatever. But we ended up kicking him out of his own house. And I was with them both in his house. So it was pretty funny We felt bad because he sat on the curb all night Until we left the next morning But yeah it was two sons a wild place Bro what the fuck

Did you feel weird about it all Were you like yo this is crazy They didn't touch Yeah okay okay They didn't touch each other That's fair Yeah yeah yeah they didn't touch each other But you were like no one's gonna believe this

No they were there There was people there What? It was in a tour bus It was in a tour bus Everybody did it We were like Okay so you know like the The HS tapes

We were watching the movie Her mom came in We were doing our thing She sat on this side And I started messing with the both Like that That's what happened We went in and did it again

In the house That's all it was They didn't touch each other I just had fun with both of them I mean that's crazy It was cool It was fun Like

Who does this? that. It quente. Yeah, right? It does that. Why do they call you, Goethe? I was my grandfather's name. So my name's Peter. I'm named after my grandfather and my uncle

is Peter too. My brother's middle name's Peter. Both of my son's middle names are Peter. My cousin's names are Peter, so it's all Peter, right? It comes from my grandpa, Peter Quete. So he was Peter Gunn.

and he's the one that kind of like started the legacy of us being like that's why my mom doesn't trip on me and she's just like I can't do nothing because she knows her dad's like that she knows her brothers like that so I'm like it's you it's you guys mom not me

oh that makes a lot of sense so she just like damn what can I do when my dad was like that my brother's like that and now my son so do you do you have a son yeah how many I have two oh wow and how old are that um 17

and fortune. And do you try to talk to him about, like, your life and the way that you lived and try to change anything for them? Like, if they're interested in getting involved, or you, like, look, whatever happens happens. I think my sons are way more smarter than me. They're not like that.

Oh, really? Yeah. And so they're in school, they like school? Yeah. Really? My son's is, like, one of the best artists that I've ever seen. He draws anime and, like,

he's probably going to be like a Disney animator one day for sure that's what I want him I've been putting that in his mind since he was like like five years old he would draw stuff and they would think that I did it and I'm like it was all him all him that's crazy and so do you have to go to like parent teacher conferences and shit at school yeah and you got to pull up full face tattoos then they'll tell me the same thing that you say they're like I didn't expect you to be like and a lot of my fans a lot of my fans will say the same stuff they're like damn what i thought you were gonna like have a gun and shoot up in the air shoot everybody and just be all serious and life's too it's too much of everything to just be one thing yeah wow i mean i could

laugh i could cry in the next minute you know um but everybody thinks i'm going to be this hard um killer type of guy which i'm not i'm a love I love her, not a fighter. But I love to fight, so, I mean, you do the math. What do you think the future is? What do you think is the next 10 years? I know you don't like to think big picture. You kind of look day by day.

If everything goes good, I'll be with my brother by then. If everything goes good, you'll be with your brother. You're really not afraid of death. No, I don't want to say that I'm not afraid of death in that sense. I'm just looking forward to being with my brother. if death is what that's that's the next step then it's like taking your part of you that you've always had away from yourself and you're never ever going to get it back no matter what so it's just like the the colors are dollar the food doesn't taste good you you just can't get that happy

the happiest happy is never going to be the happiest that it actually could be and i don't really want to get emotional right now, but it's hard. It's definitely hard. I'd rather be there than here. For real? Yeah. Fuck, man. So you don't want to wait 40 years ago, see him?

I already waited too long. That's the thing, is that I'm resentful for being here already another day. And that's why I feel bad about these people that I'm going at it with, because they probably have family and stuff like that that's why they I mean I do don't get me wrong what I'm saying is they probably don't feel like me and it's not fair to them the way that I I'm ready to do just whatever it takes or whatever not whatever it takes but just whatever and did you feel this way before your brother passed away sometimes but it wasn't but then he'd be there to talk me to say the right things

Damn. He's the only one that even ever, like, put it this way. I asked, I was super young. I was like 14, 15 when I started rapping. I asked my mom and dad when I finally took it serious for some money so I could go to the studio and record, and they told me no. We don't got it like that. We can't.

That was a lot of money back then, three, four hundred bucks to go to the studio for an hour. I told my brother, hey, I need this money, man. We need to go to the studio. It's all right. Let me go get it. When he told my mom and dad, bam, they gave it to him. Bam, he gave it to me. Bam, I went to the studio.

Bam, quarter million dollars. Just like that. That's crazy. Because he believed in me. Yeah, he's always had your back. The only one. The only one? The only one.

Your parents, like your sister, no one else, really, like, rode for you that way. Not to that extent. He probably saw me the same thing. of himself. It was probably helping himself at the same time in a way. Do you think he wanted to rap? Yeah, he did.

He told me, and this is something I regret, I regret this for the rest of my life. He said, you write me some stuff, man, and I'll wrap it. And I told him, I said, and this is the time that remind you that I had all these records to write. I said, if I'm going to write you something,

I might as well say it myself. You write it yourself, which I should have just wrote something for him. And it's not like he doesn't have the capability to do because he would sit there sometimes and he'd help me write my music. But he just, he was, he wanted to, yeah, he wanted to. But he was this guy that had a shell. He was a big guy, he was big.

And he looked more scarier than I do. He was a bigger teddy bear than anybody. that I knew. He had tattoos? Towards the end after, yeah, he started getting someone his arm and he had a couple on his chest,

maybe a few on his leg. Nothing like me. But, yeah, he was the part of me that I'll never get to express the full amount of joy no matter how happy I get.

I'll never be able to be like that. You know, I don't know if you got, if you, if you, from the other year with, uh, Andrew Tate and his brother. Mm-hmm. Those guys get me sad, big time. The way, how close they are. Same thing. Damn.

That sucks, bro. Yeah, it's a tricky thing because it's like the, the belief that if you got to pass on, you would, you know, the pain here would go away and then you get to be with him again and it would be done. No, that's not what I'm saying That's not what I mean I'm not I'm smart enough to know that that's probably not how it's gonna go Maybe I'm not I'm not here to say that it is or is it might But I'm also

That's not what I mean All I'm saying is that I just want to experience Whatever he did already Because I don't want him to just To be have to do it whatever it was by itself And let's say that he is waiting for me And he's battling whatever he's battling Waiting for his tribe

and his people to get there. Because we don't know. Who knows what it is? We don't know. All I'm saying is that I just want to experience what he did because I don't want him to have to only be the one to experience that. And I really feel bad that I waited this long. So like every chance, anytime I really remember,

like I feel like I should have been the same day. But then my mom would probably be worse than she is now. Yeah, I mean, the only thing worse than losing one kid is two. So it's tough. That's what I'm saying. So you're never going to do anything to harm yourself. No. But if something happened,

would you put yourself into a position where the stakes are so high or where something could go wrong? Would you, like, skydive or some shit, hypothetically? Oh, no. Why not? I'm scared to die. What's the worst thing? What's the worst thing to happen, bro?

You know what I'm scared to die. If I want to, if I'm going to die, it's not going to be, it's not going to, I don't want it to be torturous. Mm. Or for some dumb shit. But who knows if it's going to, wherever I'm going to go, I might be an eternal torture. So what I'm saying is, oh, what, what happened to those guys in the submarine? Yeah. I don't want to do nothing like that.

Hmm. I wouldn't do nothing like that. Although I might give my life to go up to space. Or the lack of space that we maybe don't have. What do you think is up there? The heavens, the water between the heavens. The firmament? Mm-hmm.

But space, though? I don't believe in space because for one, there's too many facts to support. that there's not there's no such thing as space for for example I somewhat study jet propulsion mm-hmm and the fact that you need um air mm-hmm and that space is void of everything is actually a vacuum there would be no way to create thrust in space if there was no air what do you mean you can you can't create thrust in a vacuum Yeah. Are you sure?

Well, how, what's the way that a helicopter with the gravitation, lift, and rotation and pull what, it lifts off the air, right? So if it's, if there's thrusting, the thrusters would just be firing off and it's not hitting anything to actually push off of. so the lack of air or oxygen in space would it be actually it wouldn't it wouldn't be able to create any kind of thrust without having a sort of a back a back uh or you know something to push off of yeah i mean i'm not aerospace scientist so i don't know me neither but i could be wrong but in my mind i'm like look let's see you had like a like a like a glass right right like a glass, like, I don't know, like a container, and you're able to suck all the air out. You made it into a vacuum. So inside there's no air. And then you put like a little like firework,

like a little bomb or something. Like you ever use like an M80? Yeah. Like the M80s actually have oxygen infused into the wick so they can explode underwater. They don't need oxygen to light. So you can put it inside the vacuum and it's still able to light and explode.

And so if it explodes inside the vacuum, right, inside this little like glass container with no air in it, what do you feel like what happened? I get what you. you're saying? I feel like the explosion would then explode and then if there was something sitting on top of it, it would blast off, you know what I mean? So it would still have the combustion is what you're saying?

Yeah, because it could still ignite. Well, I think the thrust is just a controlled combustion. Exactly. How would you do that into a, like, so that's all you're saying is that a rocket is, is just its own, it's creating its own. Yeah, exactly. That fuel is creating an explosion behind it. And then inside the vacuum of space is still able to move.

forward because every action is the equal opposite reaction. I see what you're saying. I think, but I'm not interested in science. No, yeah, I don't. Maybe someone else knows. And here's the thing. And here's the thing. What is, I believe it was Einstein.

He said something along the lines of, to doubt anything that nobody is certain of is an active ignorance. So we don't know. Maybe. You know what I'm saying? So what about aliens? You believe aliens? I believe that the, this is what I really want to believe is that the aliens are the

Ananakis. They're the watchers that watch the waters that separate the heavens from the earth. They're the watchers. I have this video that I have uploaded before to my Facebook, and this is a while back. But it's called GoPro Rocket hits the firmament. It's on YouTube. I don't know if they still have it. Should I pull it up?

If you can. and this rocket has a GoPro and it's going in space right all of a sudden it stops it stops spinning and everything just out of nowhere

but I slow down frame by frame and I you can literally see some type of craft you could hear it in the audio and you could actually see it Is it one of these?

Not one of those yet Go keep going down Up there it is That, nope, down That's one, that's it right there Alright, let's Pete, let's pee That's it right there Oh shit

I don't believe that's it I lost it Okay We got this rocket taking on Okay You might want to go a little bit Up to when it starts getting dark To it starts to leave the atmosphere

So this rocket It's like spinning. Yeah, so it's spinning crazy, right? And then all of a sudden it stops. Just out of nowhere, right? That's weird on its own, right? Okay, so I don't, this is not the full video. If you, if you can find the, is that a short?

Yeah, I think so. So if you can find the full video, it actually has the second view in space. Matter of fact, it might even be on my Facebook. Where I break it down. Oh, really? You explain it? Yes, where I explain it. If I search your name with it?

No, no, no, not on YouTube on my Facebook. I just, I broke it down. Like, I really wanted to talk about this from a long time ago, too. I actually think that this is something that nobody else was ever talking about. I don't know. Do you have Facebook? Yeah, yeah. If you could look at my fan page, I believe that it'll be on one of those videos.

Okay. we're gonna cut this little part out just to speed this up okay let me can I get a water yeah of course that's my bad I thought you had one over there oh thank you yeah I got you I thought you wanted both of them

no I don't know I was just moving for the light um wait is it this page is that uh that's Facebook yeah okay uh yeah okay we're going to videos yeah go to the videos and see if there's any of those ones on there if it's still on there

here we go we're gonna figure this fucking thing out we're gonna see the firmament no we're gonna see the oh and it's crazy because when I when you stop it it has a gold top like a like a pyramid

but it's the top of it's the way that the the pyramids of Giza or Gaza are missing the top it looks like the same exact thing that would be fit on the top of the pyramid Quetta there's no way bro no I'm telling you if we find

the right one, if we find the right one, it's just, I would, and if we don't find it right now, I'm going to find it, and I'm going to send it to so you can put it back. Yeah, you got to sense me and we're going to watch it. Yeah. How long ago did you do this video? It was quite a while. It was quite a while. Do you remember what you called it?

Yeah, you'll see that picture. You'll see that picture. I haven't been on my Facebook for so long That's probably good though This shit fucks your brain up Yeah I'm talking about like actually even being on there I go on Instagram every day

All the time But Facebook I don't go on there at all Man I can't find out You got sent to me I'll find it on my own And I'll send it to you When we get, well if we get time to do his Then we'll do that

So you're saying that the Aliens are the Watchers watching us from beyond the firmament. They're protecting it. They're protecting the firmament from whatever. But you still believe in God. Yeah. What about ghosts?

I believe in spirits. You want to hear a crazy story real quick? Please. So I'm sleeping. I got my baby mama and then my children are on a bed. not too far from us. And so here we go. I'm sleeping.

My baby mama and my kids are next to me. And I'm having this tussle in my dream with a demon or the devil. Some people say it's sleep paralysis or whatever, right? Well, I wake up out of that. I'm fighting with the devil and I'm telling them Jesus rebukes you. Jesus rebukes you. and finally I wake up

but I remember fighting them and looking and seeing everything for what it is so when I finally get up and I wake up my baby mom was like this hiding from me

she says you're talking in another language okay she's like you're talking in another language and I said no I was just saying I was fighting with the demon

or devil when I started explaining her she said no you were speaking in another language okay so Now a couple days, maybe a week go by, and she's like, we're watching TV. And the passion of the Christ comes on.

And she said, that's what you were speaking. And let me tell you, my baby mama not the smartest person to know, like, it was Hebrew or whatever. Oh, yeah. It turns a specific language. Yeah, yeah. So she's like, but that's what it is. Like, she's like, that's what it is. And I told her, I was saying this.

And she said, no, you were speaking that language. Why? From me being on the inside of the dream, her being on the outside, we would have never made that connection if she wasn't there, right? And I wasn't speaking out loud. Well, I spoke with one of my friends the other day at the gym, and he was saying, that's because that DNA is in, I mean,

that language is embedded in our DNA. He goes, you could have a puppy. You could have dogs and your dog have puppies. She knows to go and clean up the feces and everything because the other predators are going to smell. that and come and potentially pray on the puppies. Nobody taught her that, but she just knows that because it's embedded in her DNA.

And he said, that's one of the things that I was like, okay, you know, that kind of makes sense. I don't speak Hebrew. I never have. I couldn't do it right now if I tried, but she said that I was speaking in another language, which means that there's a very, very real spiritual warfare going on that we're blind to.

And I've seen it for me. First-hand. Damn. What else have you seen? Is it just, was it that experience or other things too? Well, at the end of the day, I've had that experience multiple times. So it was around the same time, maybe a few months later. And yeah, I don't speak any kind of different language.

And that's what I'm saying. From experiences, I know that there's a spiritual warfare going on. What's the closest you've ever been to death? probably more than I've realized. But like I said, a few times I've been there were just missed. Just missed. I mean, seconds, minutes. Do you remember a specific instance?

Yeah, the one that I spoke about earlier. Yeah. Yeah, we had just walked away. And for whatever reason, we got out of there. But, yeah, two people passed away that day. Two of my friends died that day. Fuck. Damn.

Quete, I appreciate you telling me your story, man. This is very, very interesting. I feel like I understand you a lot better now. Yeah. Maybe you understand yourself. I don't know. Well, yeah, like I said, you open up my eyes to a lot of things, too. But I had a good time, I think.

Yeah, man. I'm really grateful that you spend the time to chop it up with me, man. This is cool. And it's a good lesson not to judge a book by his cover. You're not what I expected you to be like. No, I don't think a lot of us are. Yeah. You know, we're the neighbor that you might be cautious about,

but we're the neighbor that's looking out for you the most. Yeah. For real. Quet. I appreciate you, bro. Thank you, boss. Thank you so much, man. Thank you.