Camp Gagnon - Lil Sasquatch & Rone on Dave Portnoy at Their Weddings, Quitting Alcohol & Barstool Stories

Episode Date: February 6, 2024

Whats up camp folk we got Sas and Rone in the tent today to discuss the logistics of inviting Dave Portnoy to their weddings, quitting alcohol once and for all, & their fav barstool stories. We also get into the logistics of soaking, meditating and why my head is so big. WELCOME TO CAMPTHANK YOU!MorganBluechew Zippixfor making this show possible edited and produced by @99OvrAll TIMESTAMPS00:00 Intro00:19 Whiskey + LA sober01:54 Where's Shoenice? Going viral + bowling 30004:02 ...

This is alcohol-free whiskey. Here, pour that up. We're doing shots of alcohol-free whiskey. Cheers. To SAS's health. Whiskey. I think it tasted nothing like whiskey. It doesn't taste anything like whiskey.

Yeah, it tastes like water with spices in it. Yeah. That's nice, though. It's definitely interesting. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know why the Morgan is whiskey. They just invented a whole new concoction, and they're really underselling it by calling it by calling it like spicy. Like, call it like spiced water.

That was not whiskey. Right? There's no part of that that tasted like whiskey. Yeah, I don't know. I'm like kind of 50-50 on this. I don't know if this is like good for people that are like actually in recovery. If you're an alcoholic, I don't think this is what you need. Dude, I saw a video the other day of a dude who was like on Instagram was supposed to be like a motivational video and he was like, day 60, no hard alcohol. And it's like him pouring a bottle of hard alcohol down. He's like, I decided today I'm not going back ever. And then someone was like, so you're not drinking at all? And he's like, no, still drinking beers. I mean, that's like, that's the whole thing with like LA sober. Have you heard this? I'm sober, but I do shrooms and I smoke weed all the time.

I get that, but like, dude, just being, like that would be like if I was like, well, I'm sober, but I'm, like I'm off bud lights, but I'm still drinking Miller lights. Like that doesn't make any sense. Because it's just the smaller amount of alcohol. It's like, yo, I'm not doing heroin through regular needles. I'm going to use a way smaller needle. Yeah, exactly. So I get it way slower. Yeah, you're just getting drunker slower.

You're getting the same amount of alcohol. drunk just had a way slower speed. Yeah, it's crazy, right? It's insane. You think people just want a pat on the back? That was like, yeah, you want a pat on the back. Yeah. I mean, I'm assuming this is just like, hey, I'm not going to quit. I can't and I just need to slow the delivery.

Like, I'm drinking, like, he's like shoe nice. Like, he was just chugging, like, vodka bottles. Yeah. Whatever happened to him, by the way. He came back. He was still alive. He was commenting on the show that we used to be on. Yeah, we did this show for a while called the Yak. It was a barstool show. And and he

randomly went into, he like joined like the Yak community and was like, but then one day he just started commenting a bunch of like racial slurs and they had to ban him from the chat. Yeah. It depends.

What did he chug that day? Like if it was like, it was Drano. He was a legend. He was like Hennessy or like 40s. He was like, no, I'm pissed off. This is racially charged. He just chugged it.

Like you're like, I can see it at that time. Those videos were entertaining as fuck. It was insane. Yeah. I remember being 12, being like, this is what I'm going to do with my life. I'm gonna do I wanna be shoe nice

Like this guy's sick Did you ever try it? Did you ever tiptoe down the path? No No I wanted like I remember seeing like those videos on YouTube going viral and I was like this could be a way in Like yeah wonder if I could just like chug stuff Dude the way to go viral back in the day used to be so much it was like you had just like hurt yourself or do something for a really long time Yeah, I mean like those early mr. Beast videos where he just said Logan Paul for 24 hours straight He just said Logan Paul's name for 24 hours I mean that's the needle in the haystack

these dudes were doing last night. Yeah, what is that? These barstool guys, Big Cat and PFT, it was their 39th birthday. And so that they laid out like a ton of, like maybe like 10 bails of hay. Like a basketball court-sized hay.

Like thing of hay. A bale of hay. And they hid 39 needles. And they had to go on stream until they found the 39 needles. How long did it take? What was it like six hours or something like that? I don't know.

I have no idea. It happened at like two in the morning. Maybe they started at eight. So like six hours or something like that? this dude Jersey Jerry. You see that, you might have seen his golf hole in one stream. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Went like super viral. It's like he's doing, like, so that he does that like

every Tuesday, something like that, like a different challenge. Oh, really? Yeah. Wait, what other challenges is he done? Needle and a haystack, golfing. Bowl 300 on Wii. Oh, I've done that. Really? I'm not trying to brag, but I mean, in my younger days? That one didn't take him that long. Yeah, that's like three hours. Yeah. But that's a fun, dude. That's a fun challenge. Yeah, that's a fun challenge.

Back in the day, dude, early morning. Yeah. I would, you got to line up all the way the right and then you got to twist it at the bottom. That's what he was doing. That's exactly what he was doing. Yeah, I learned that from an Asian on the internet. You go to YouTube, there's like a six-year-old Korean kid that'll teach you how to do it. Yeah. Just start there. That challenge could have been 25 minutes.

Dude, that's how I learned how to do Photoshop was like a 13-year-old Asian kid. Yeah, it's crazy, right? Yeah. How do they know? They just know everything. They just download stuff. Yeah, I don't know. They're just built for it. They really are built for it.

It's just insane. Like anytime, like I think that should be all of America's public schools. Like if I was present, I'd be like, hey, we're just going to hire younger Japanese children. Yeah, yeah. I was going to teach you. Okay. Well, don't they go to school six days a week? Isn't that?

Or is that like an old rumor? That might have just been an old racial stereotype. I think they're a fast-bring. Yeah, yeah. That's why they're fast-renology. Yeah, yeah. The skull is bigger. I was pretty sure that was a thing until right now.

I assume it was parental expectation. I assume their parents are like, hey, even when you're not at school, we're going to be at school. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. I'm a proponent of homeschooling, though. I'm like, when I have kids, I'm definitely going to do that. Really? You just want them to be social recluses?

I want to be conservative. I want them to be Republican. I was homeschooled up until like about 5th grade. Can you tell? No. And I mean that as a compliment. Yeah, but up until 5th grade, there's not really, pretty much nothing important happens in your life. Yeah, other than like going to school and dodging like school shootings and shit.

Yeah, I mean, it's just only risk, you know what I'm saying? So just be at home, chill with me. And then we'll just like learn shit until you're in 5th grade, then you can go to school. Yeah. Did you play sports? Yeah, I played soccer. still had, like, friends. Yeah, but playing soccer, you get a different friend group. Yeah?

Like, it's just, like, it's literally just all, like, there were kids on my team that didn't speak any English at all. Where did you go to school? I lived in Florida. So, like, I grew up in Florida. I played, like, at my school. Yeah, and so, like, I play in the club teams, so people would always be like, yo, like, you were boys with all the guys on the team.

And I was like, not really, I'll be honest. Yeah. Like, Adair and, like, Juanito, like, they didn't really speak English. So it's hard to, like, connect. You know what I mean, with the guys that just, like, genuinely did not speak the language. Yeah, that's tough to connect with people that don't speak English when you're 10 years old. Right? Like hockey's a little easier. I feel like you barely had English

down. Exactly. Like I was just getting it. But like I don't know, you played sports growing up, right? Yeah. What did you play? I played a bunch. I mean, when you're young you play like every sport. That's like a northeastern thing in my opinion. Really? I played like baseball, soccer, hockey. I played hockey the longest. I played hockey until I was in like ninth grade until I think it's a season school. I think it's a season's thing. Yeah. Because my parents just wanted me to be busy. Yeah. Yeah. I just wanted me to and not sit around the house all day. Exactly.

Yeah. And then I got to high school and I realized I wasn't good at any sports. Oh, really? I stopped. I played golf. No, you were great at golf though in high school. No, it wasn't.

You were good enough. I mean, you're still good at golf, so you couldn't have sucked that bad? I'm like, okay at golf. But, like, in the comparison, there was kids that, like, went to, like, Notre Dame for golf that were on the team. Oh, damn.

Yeah. But, like, your best day golfing, like, scratch? No. Over par, a little? Over par. Like, my best day golfing, I would beat, like, the average golf player.

That's pretty good. That means you're slightly above average. Yeah, that's good. You beat all the people in our office pretty much other than the dudes who golf for a living. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's sick. Yeah. I mean, that's, like, a great thing to be good at. You picked that up in high school?

I played for, I played in middle school briefly, and then, like, the summer going into high school. I played, like, every day because I needed to play a sport. My parents wanted me to play a sport in high school. Oh, really? Yeah. But, dude, dude, golf team was, like, the best thing of all time. Yeah, it seems sick. Dude, I kind of wish I did it.

Yeah, you pay $200 to play golf every single day. on the nicest courses in Massachusetts. Right. Like, if there's 65-year-old guys being like, oh, I wish I could be you. Like, you're doing something right. You know what I mean? Like, there's a wisdom in what you're doing,

which is golfing every day when you're 18 years old. Dude, it was also the only sport in high school that you would get pulled out of school early because you got to finish the nine holes before the sun goes down. So if we had like an away game, we would get pulled out of school like two hours early. It was awesome.

And you guys are so far north, you're getting pulled out at like 9 a.m. That's crazy. Yeah, it was awesome. I mean, that's insane. Yeah. My brother does it. is now, like he got into golf later, so he's

a lawyer in Florida. Yeah. And literally he works as many days that allow him to golf every other day. So he's like, okay, I'm working like two, three days this week, and he'll golf the 18 and then run it right back. That's crazy. 36 holes in a day. That's insane. Yeah, I don't

play golf anymore at all. Oh, come on, dude. Yeah. I mean, I would, but it's not like that. But you'll pick it back up, you have the fundamentals down. It's not like you're going to be like floundering out there. You're not going to be making an ass. Are you like drinking on the course? Are you like goofing off at this point? Are you trying to like, your shirt's tucked in?

You're trying to win. Usually like you get to a point where you get competitive again. But then, but I don't know. I haven't played golf like on an actual course like twice in the last five years. Damn. Yeah. What did you play in high school? Skating?

I did skate actually. I skated for a little. Did you really? Yeah. I love skateboarding. Yeah. It was so fun. But I only like to invert.

I didn't understand like street skating. I lived in a suburb. So there's like no place to like street skate. And I didn't understand. in the philosophy. I was like, this seems like so much work. I didn't realize that street skating at a young age is mostly like a conduit to like do drugs. I didn't know. Do you mean street skating?

Like, like finding a random staircase? Yeah, exactly. Finding steps, like finding a rail, like setting up like a cone and be like, we're gonna do this. Yeah. I just wanted to be like, I'm on a ramp. I'm dropping in. Were you good? Because I always, me and Nick were talking about this this weekend. How like when I realized that wasn't athletic and I was like, fuck, I guess I'm just gonna have to go to the X games instead. I was like, oh, I wasn't good at basic coordination sports, so now I'm going to do backflips on a skateboard instead.

That's surely something that I can pick up usually. I mean, there's some things with the X-Games that it's just like your competitive advantage is that you don't care about dying. Yeah, you know what I mean? Which I definitely did. That's why I sucked at hockey. You had no leg up. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

Yeah, you're not coordinated, but at least you also want to live. So you have no shot, actually, unfortunately. Yeah, but like, you don't even have to be that quarterback. If you're willing to just be like, y'all, I'm willing to die. Yeah. I can never get over that, that mental barrier. Of living a fruitful life. Yeah. I was like, even just like getting hurt.

Like I was like, oh, I don't want to, I want to try to do an holly, but I'm going to do it on the grass because I don't want to slip and hurt myself. I mean, there were kids I grew up with that way too reckless. Yeah. They would just do shit and they would get hurt. Like, I had friends with break bones all the time. They would like climb trees and fall. Yeah. I was like, I was never like that crazy.

But you're dropping in a half pipe. That's like the scariest thing that you could do is skateboarding. That's true, but I have my helmet on it. I was like, how hurt can I get? I never saw someone get really hurt, like, dropping in, so I was like, how bad it could it be? And also, you're a kid. The problem, I only got hurt skateboarding once I picked it up, like, eight months ago. Oh, really?

Yeah. How'd you hurt yourself? Just doing the most basic shit, like, dropping it on a half pipe. Yeah. But I didn't realize that I'd gain, like, 120 pounds. Since when last time I escaped when I was like 12. Yeah. You know what I mean?

So, like, okay, I was like 90 pounds, and then I'm like, like, 200. Yeah. Like, yeah, I'm going to get crushed. Fucking goat, bro. Come on, dude. That's out of core power 42 grams of protein Every single

Every single one you drink There's a lot of milk in the 42 grand ones though You're basically drinking a milkshake It's just so milky for me Yeah exactly I'm not afraid of milk too You know you like milk? Yeah I'll milk up today

Will you order like a tall glass of milk Dude I've done that Really? I went out literally a friend of mine Our buddy miles like drinks milk all the time Yeah We went to a restaurant We're like out of like a nice plate

Like St. Ambrose like in Soho or some shit Like I was like trying to like Drink outside And he was like can I have a glass of milk? It's like, motherfucker, you cannot be ordering milk in public. Milk for me and whatever the lady is. Exactly. Dude, one of my friends right now, he's trying to bulk and he's drinking like,

dude, every time I call him, he's drinking a glass of milk. And I'm like, dude, it's so gross. Yeah, it's crazy. I don't dislike milk either, but drinking like four glasses of milk. Dude, Robbie Fox was on Go Mad, got on a milk a day. Oh, that's disgusting, dude. Go mad is so crazy. That's wild.

So much weight. Or it's like right here. Yeah. He just had like a disgusting. Yeah. You could do it with beer, which would be way more fun than milk. You know what I mean? Like, if you want a gut, like, just get drunk.

You know what I mean? Just drink all the time. Yeah. No, that just seems wild to me. I don't know. I kind of got off milk for a while. I kind of bought into the supremacy of like almond milk, milk alternative. Yeah.

Basically the fake whiskey of milk. Yeah. And I recently got back on. I just, I didn't buy the, I didn't buy the propaganda. When I have like cereal, I'll still use like whole milk, like regular milk. Why do we think we can't do it? I don't know. I'm not doing the almond milk.

almond milk grosses me out with... I like almond milk and like coffee. But at that point, it's like, just do regular milk. Yeah. What happened? Like, why do we all buy into this fake milk? I think it's because it tears people's assholes up. Does it?

I think it makes people fart... Bad. Yeah. Viciously. Are you... So you could just crush ice cream like that, no problem? I mean, just a healthy amount of ice cream, yeah, probably. Yeah. But I'm not trying to brag.

I don't think I'm better. Like, I'm just talking regularly. You're a fucking beast, bro. Like, I'm not, like, I'm not trying to stun on you guys. But I'll just have a regular amount of ice cream and feel fine, yeah I mean, do you get like stomach aches? I think, or I don't know, I'll like sometimes consciously get dairy-free ice cream. I have some dairy-free in the fridge right now.

And it just is less of a, I just feel a little bit less guilty and it's less of a chance that it's going to do some crazy shit to my stomach. I could see that. I just, I don't know. Sometimes I get caught up on food that's pretending to be other food. Oh, yeah, that shit's weird. But like, like, I don't, like, if you're vegan, vegetarian, I completely support it. I actually think it's like a moral position to be in.

Like, yeah, not killing it. is like probably good for like the world I'm not against that but if you're like don't eat fake chicken yeah don't get a cheeseburger that's made of beans just eat beans yeah beans are awesome I like carrots like just eat carrots like you don't have to eat like a fake like imitation carrot

you know what I'm saying like just like stop trying to jack our shit and just eat regular beans yeah just eat the ingredients where do you stand on like cloned on cloned meat like if someone's gonna clone a steak for you it's like nothing no one has to die but you still get the steak that's the thing I'm not really a pose to it. Like, they're, like,

I've been, you know, I'm obviously a fan of your guys show. I consume a lot of, like, right-wing propaganda. You know, I, like, I listen to you guys on Rumble a lot. The Bud Light change back, bro. We can find... Exactly, it's not gay anymore. But I've been listening to you guys on Rumble. I know you guys have talked about, like, that's a, like, a liberal conspiracy. That, like, the Clintons are basically trying to, like,

create lab grow meat and make us eat insects, stuff like that. Yeah. So I see that sucks. There is a dude at Barstool who's like, dude, for the last, like, three years, he's been extremely passionate about that. all going to be forested bugs. Yeah, that's like a big thing. I know you guys have been talking about it.

I feel like genuinely, I don't, like, I don't know. I'm like, I have no issue with like the synthetic meat. Why? Have you like looked into it? Is it bad? No, I think that it's great. I think that it's, and I always try to find what people's problem with it is. They're like, well, the ecosystem would be overrun if we didn't allow hunting.

I'm like, I don't have a problem with that. You could still hunt. I don't care if you're killing like whatever. Kill a fucking elk with a bow or whatever. I'm talking about factory. farmed like a cattle that will never walk in its life or like a chicken that will never see the light of day in its life. We don't need that, just cloned chicken wing.

You're eating shit anyway. Right? Like, I need to look into it. There's no way that a cloned piece of chicken is worse than whatever is just already in the chicken. Yeah. Steroids, like, yeah, it's like antibiotics. Am I crazy?

Like, I don't know. The conditions they're living in. I'm getting too tribal. Like, that's what I'm realizing. Like, anytime someone says anything, like, oh, Native Americans did this. I'm like, that's good. Yeah. It's stupid.

It makes no sense. Literally. And I don't always do it. Do you have a Lever King guy? Dude, that's the problem. We had Lever King on Flagrin. He came on and talked to us and the whole time I was like,

this guy is fucking genius. Wait, why didn't know and tell me this guy was literally Albert Einstein? He's the smartest guy ever. He got it perfectly nailed. When was the last time you guys saw him? Have you seen him recently? I haven't seen him in a while.

I haven't seen him in a long-ass time. That's awesome. It's tribal vibes, dude. Talk to me nice. But no, I have not seen livercanging in quite some time. Last time I saw him was when he put up the video Addressing the steroids thing. Yeah, what happened?

Did Zuckerberg like blast him off the face of the earth? Like, he's not allowed to be on the internet anymore? I don't know. All I know is that I've never seen someone go from being like, I don't take steroids to them publicly being like, I've taken more steroids than most bodybuilders combined ever. Yeah. I think he looked bad.

I think he was in a bad spot last I saw him. I think he was like... He's still red as hell? I think he was red or like his body. was doing weird things. I don't know. It looked grim for him. I watched that because someone, who was the dude that put out like the hour long documentary? It's like some of the plates, more dates? Yeah, yeah. And I watched that whole video and he broke it down. And it was like, dude, not only was he was, he was taking every single type of steroid like past like the cert, like the maximum dose.

Yeah. I mean, it worked. He looks sick. He looked incredible. He looks so sick. Beautiful abs. Beautiful cut just like the fucking obliques, pecks. I mean, at this point, if you, I truly don't believe any man into his 20s that hasn't considered being like, oh, I'm going to do steroids. Like, I just, I, you're a liar if you haven't like thought about like, yeah, what about his dead steroids? Dude, I've had that thought. I used to go to the gym a lot. And when I was going to the gym a lot, I was like so, like, I never would have actually done it.

But I was like, if I was in the locker room and someone was like, I got steroids on me, I probably would have done them. Yeah, just casualty. Peer pressure. Yeah, I wouldn't even take a lot of pressure. Like they do, like, you do like a party drug. Yeah. Do you want some steroids? You're like, I'll do a bump of steroids.

I don't try it. Because I saw a video a while ago of a dude who was like young and he was doing steroids and he was, he was like, I would go to the gym. I think he was taking sarums and he was like, I would go to the gym, I would get a pump. And then the pump would just wouldn't go away. It would just stay there. Sick. And then I would go to the gym the next day. It was like, he said he was having day to day results.

it was popping out right away it's a pretty good sales pitch right it's a great sales pitch every day I get more and more jacked like I don't look small anymore yeah that's awesome my self-esteem is low enough though that I like think the steroids wouldn't take on me

like it just wouldn't work on me it's just like yeah I don't have the body type for steroids just pee it out yeah it just wouldn't work on me I just don't have the body type to get strong at all that would fuck with my head dude my steroids and I just look the exact same

like science can't fix it there was kids in my high school who took steroids just like laid in bed. They thought they were just going to get jacked. Oh no, it's a multiplier. Yeah, yeah. But I think that was like, that was always my idea.

Steroids was like you'd just take them and just not work out and they'd just naturally you would get ripped. Yeah. And these kids were just, like they did it for like a month. Yeah, I think you just get cancer. I think that you just, you basically, yeah, can I just have some cancer and then they just give it to you. And then if you work out, then it's not cancer, I guess.

I don't know. Yeah. But I guess that's like the problem with steroids. Like it just makes everything grow. Yeah. So if you have bad shit, it makes that grow also. So you're just kind of like rolling the dice What's the one that makes it

Yeah What's the one that actually It literally makes like Is it HG? What is it? Oh, the one that L's the one that L's even HGH Human Growth hormone Yeah that's the one that makes your heart

Fucking huge right? Oh really And I think that's what like Barry Bon Or like Sammy Sosa was on Those dudes who's like Heads literally like got their skull Got bigger Yeah I can't take

Whatever makes your head bigger Don't give that You got the size 8 New Era Dude literally bro I can't wear fits Really? I like I was the mandrom

My high school baseball team again You know Yeah But like literally athlete? Dude, yeah, athlete D1

and they gave me a fitted hat and it just didn't fit they're like, we get you another one and it didn't fit again and they were like we have to order one especially from the company

to get another one for your head. So were you just out there on like the first couple games in the season? Just getting sunburned just getting sunburn just like wearing the jersey Yankees hat on or some shit

just literally had like a snapback just unbuckled like I had dreds like I literally having just like the sickest dreads over it was insane I was so pissed about it I was like

yeah my head is just too It doesn't look big. It really doesn't look like you have a big head. Well, I'm far away. It's like looking in the rear of the mirror. Yeah, but if I can closer you guys, it'll be like, well, it's... Wait, lean in a little bit. Oh, my God.

Yo. That would be hilarious if you were just like 20 feet away from us, so we didn't know. No idea. I stand out. Oh, shit. Mr. Met? What the fuck is that?

We're all going to peewee's play hats. This whole thing's an optical illusion. But now, shout out of Lever King, bro. I feel bad for that guy. That was a tough apology. That was a tough apology. It was really tough. I didn't watch the whole thing. It got too uncomfortable. I felt bad for it. I genuinely liked the guy.

I was like, damn, this is... I think the worst apology video of all time ever is Jerry Sandusky. The all-time greatest... Did he do an apology video? It wasn't really like an apology, but they interviewed him. And they were like, are you attracted to young boys? And he was like, actual answer. He goes, oh, man.

No, but I do it anyway. Exactly. He's like, I power through it. No, he literally goes, what do you mean attracted? It's like, bro. Yeah. Jerry. Come on, buddy. Yeah, that's not going to help him.

Right? Dude, one of the all-time bad apology videos is Kramer. Oh, dude. The one with Jerry? Yeah, when he went on a letterman. Letterman. Yeah, it's incredible. He's like, stop laughing.

This is serious. He kids are going, I just want to apologize to the Afro-Americans. I was like, I don't think of saying. They're howling laughing. There's no. There's no laugh light on. Or do you think the guy was just flipping the laugh?

Dude, imagine the guy in the back just fucking... It's going crazy. Dude, that video, I didn't even know that existed until, like, recently. I remember I watched that and I was dying laughing.

It's one of the funniest things I've ever seen. And Jared is being mad. Guys, yeah. Guys, he said the end word. Yeah. Well, like, cemented his fucking,

like, cancellation. That's the thing. Like, I think he realized in that moment, like, oh, I didn't need to apologize. Yeah. I could have just pretended I didn't do that.

Yeah. And then it would have maybe. been fine. Dude, when was the time you watched that video? I watch it every year. It's a family tradition.

That video is fucking crazy. Yeah. That's one of those videos that you watch back and you're like, you're like, oh dude, I got to see it. That was so crazy.

I bet it's so funny. And then you watch it and you're like, oh. Like that is so bad. Yeah. It's not even funny. It's not funny at all. It's so hard to watch.

It's a deserved. Like, it's one of the few, like, I'd love what people, like, I've heard people loop him in into like cancellations. They're like, dude, all these comments you're didn't cancel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean?

Like, look at Bill Burr, Dave Chappelle, Michael Richards. You're like, right. Wait a second. He might be worse than Sandusky. It might be. It affected me worse. Sandusky did nothing bad to me. He's not hard to watch.

His, uh, his like appearance on the last season of curb, I don't know, it wasn't the last season. It was whatever the season was where they did the Seinfeld reboot on Curb. That, that episode where he was in it was so funny. Where he gets mad at the black dude. And he's like, uh, he's like, uh, he's, he's like, uh, he. He's like, I'm so angry at you. He's like, I wish there was something I could say to hurt your feelings. And then he looks over and there's like 30 people in the parking lot recording him.

Oh, that's so good. It was really funny. That should have been the apology. Yeah, it was really funny. That should have been it. Yeah. Loki, like, Chappelle had such a good take on it. You seen that?

That's like one of my favorite sets. What did you say? It basically is just like, look, this is when I realize that I'm more a comedian than I am. Yeah. Because as a black man, I saw this and I was like, that's deeply offensive. But as a comedian, I was like, Having a bad set. Yeah.

Your heart goes out to. Yeah. He's like, hang in there, Kramer. Dude, poor Kramer, bro. I think that was the first video I ever, like, when I found out you could just watch stand-up on YouTube. Because, like, the laugh factory. That's where you started.

Yeah, because the last, not, not- Started the goats. How do I start with my comedy career? I started to rush more? Yeah, how do I get inspired? Not the Kramer video. The Dave Chappelle responding to the Kramer video. Dude, yeah, that was like one of like the OG, like, viral YouTube videos.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was all time. The life factor kind of blew that shit up. Yeah. Like, they had so many, like, clips that were going crazy, like the early tens, I guess. What do you call that time? The tens? The teens?

Teens? Teens sounds a little bit. I mean, would you say, like, 19? You'd say 1910s, if you were talking about 19, like 15. Would you? Yeah. The tens, 1910? I don't even think.

I think you just don't talk about it. Yeah, I just don't bring that. When World War I happened earlier? Earlier. Yeah. It's way earlier. Before World War II, that's for sure. Yeah, way earlier, dude.

Yeah, what's your fair war? You have a fair war? You have a top? Oh, man. We've been crushing a lot, or I've been crushing a lot of World War II stuff, but it's just so fucking fun to watch. Yeah, and there's so many good movies, but, dude, the modern shit, I like the modern shit way more. Yeah. Like, the fucking, I was talking about this with Joe at the stand the other day, that the modern movies do it for me way more than the old movies.

Like, uh... Like, Band of Brothers was fucking amazing. I never actually watched the whole thing. I saw the first two episodes and I was like, this is sick and then just never picked it back. We both just watched that recently. Really? It's so good.

I still haven't seen saving Private Ryan. Yeah, you got to do all of these. I know, I got a lot of homework. Yeah. It'll give you an appreciation for the bloodshed. It'll give you a great appreciation for them. I can't watch these types of videos because the more videos, I've been watching a lot of fight videos just in general.

And as soon as I watched it, I'm like, I would love to get in a fight. They make me want to do it. You know, there's a fight club in New York. There's like, have you ever seen, there's like spray painted stencils on the ground. It's like a heat map. And it'll be like white fight club sprayed in, yellow fight club sprayed in. And then like black, fight clubs. And then there's red ones where I guess where the fight club is.

I think it's on the Manhattan Bridge or something like that. But that's where like all the red ones are. Every day I'm biking over. There's like the fight club signs. But I don't know when they meet up. And people actually, is an actual fight club? I mean, I don't know why they would do a heat map to it if it wasn't an actual thing. Maybe it's just like a high school prank or something like that.

But like I feel like it's like a real, I feel like it's a real fight club. But I just, it's got to be like midnight on Saturdays or some shit like that. I don't know idea. I mean, that's kind of sick. I've never been in a fight. Neither about it. Just never really had a reason. What do you tell people whenever you're like, yeah, I'd never been in a fight?

Like, why is no one ever try to fight you? I have, I've tried to fight people. I tried to fight my like best friend like three times when we were younger. And he was just like, what are you doing? Yeah. But it was just like that young, that little kid rage where you was so anger, you can't even contain yourself. Yeah. And then he was like, what do you?

And then he was like, laugh in my face and then I would cry. Yeah. Yeah. At that age you don't like know even boxing. It's not like, I'm going to box with you. It's like, I want to fight you. And it would be like nails and like falling out of eyes and shit like that. Ripping hair.

Yeah. I just like, it was the same thing. Yeah, I don't want to get bit. I didn't want to bite people. I was like, I'm good on fights. Are you just calm? Are you just a calm guy? I don't know.

What about what if you're like at a bar and you go to college? Yeah. You're like, what if your boys ever getting in a fight or something like that or like? Yeah, I was always the guy that was like, hey, let's leave.

Yeah. Let's get in the car because the police are going to be here soon. Yeah. Like I was with this kid one time and we were walking. And this is like the thing that turned me off because like, I'm driving him home. Like me, two other kids that were on the baseball team,

I'm like, hey, I'm just going to drive you all back to the house. And we're leaving. We're like in high school. We're like 17. We're walking by and there's a guy and he's like hanging with his girlfriend. And this kid that was with

just wanted to fight. He was like kind of drunk and just like in that like I'm gonna fight someone. So he was just like waiting for someone to do something. And so he walked by and then he like looked at the kid

and like stared at him and then the kid was like are you good? And he was like oh now you want to fight like he's completely started by staring at the kid and then the second the kid said something he was just on.

So he like gets in his face like head butts him the kids start swinging on. The two of them are just like slugging each other. I'm like, can we go home? I did not want to be a part of this at all. You just start a fight. Why do I have to all of a sudden get...

Yeah, why don't I get my ass kids, too? Or like beat this guy up. Why do we have to jump this guy? You seem like a nice guy's talking to a girl. And then out of nowhere, I get hit in the head with a shoe. The girl is pissed at me and she's like stopped them from fighting. And I was like, yeah, I'm working on it, dude. I don't need you to hit me with a shoe.

Now I'm like, do you have to fight this girl? Is this like a tag team thing? Like, now I'm fully... I'm in, right? Yeah. What kind of shoot? Like a high heel? It was a Doc Martin.

It was like a big shoot. Oh, that's assault. She was the aggressor in this situation. Legally, I'm okay that I dropped her, right? Equal rights. Equal rights, equal fights. No, she like hit me and I was like, okay, I grabbed him and I was like, yo, the cops are coming. And he was like, oh, fuck, you're right.

And then we just left. Ran away? Literally, I was like, what are you doing? I was like so mad. And then from that day forward, I was like, what is the purpose of this? Yeah. Right? Like someone starts a fight and I gotta just immediately be like

You're right Yeah we do have to kill this guy If someone attacked me I'd be like yeah of course We're a defendant I was just never on that energy Like were you in fights and shit growing up? My friends that were in fights I remember I was in college and I was like

Driving home I was in a play I was wearing a guy so you know I wasn't in fights I was in a fucking play dude I was wearing like black Like how old? I was like 20 in a play Really? Really? In college I like was I studied journalism and theater Did you really?

Yeah, were the things I studied. I was in a fucking play, dude. Oh, that's fine. I was coming home. No, not really. I took acting classes, I will say. Really? Yeah.

We're not so different, don't I? Yeah? That's true. I got home from play practice. It's tough to even say. And I was like picking my boys up from my house and they were like a wrestling house or something like that. And like as I pulled up, they were like getting into a brawl with two dudes on the wrestling team. Like two of my, like my one friend who's like a firefighter now and my other

who's like a psychopath and they were fucking they like were starting beating like beating up like one wrestler was like six five I got out and they started grappling with each other and two seconds later like the police car like rolled up and I was like getting the fuck car everybody got in the car and the cop ran

up behind me flung the door open and was like don't fucking move and then the wrestlers ran away so the cops like half ran this way half went back to get us and then ran after them and I just like hit pedal to the metal as like the cop's like shaking his fist at me And they went on a search for our car.

They had someone else trying to move the car later on. They found the car. And like another friend basically got arrested for like moving our car that it was like so much trouble for no fucking reason. Like I'm just trying to be in a play, dude. I'm just trying to be a fespian. You remember the show. It was like a grown-up Charlie Brown play or some shit like that. It was like Charlie Brown but like they're all like teens that are like.

like traumatized. It's like euphoria. Yeah, basically, it honestly was a precursor to euphoria. And everybody... Brown's like smoking soon. It literally was. It was like pig... I was like the pig pan character, but he had grown up to have like OCD so he was eating like... He was eating like chips with chopsticks or some

shit like that. I still didn't learn how... I haven't learned how to use chopsticks since then. I'm terrible at chopsticks. It's embarrassing, dude. It makes me scared to go to Asia. I'm so bad at chopsticks. I'm terrible at chopsticks. I know you're nice with chopsticks, bro. I'm all right. No, no, I know you're nice of it.

I did do the wrapping with the rubber band until late age. Like, that's like the way I did chopsticks for a while. I don't even know that was a thing. You don't know this? You don't know this? See, at Kobe Steakhouse in Longwood, Florida, they would give you the chopsticks and then do like a little piece of paper in the middle and then rubber band. So then you could just pinch it.

Oh, I see. I know. I do remember the ones that had like the plastic and it was like, they were together at the top. Yeah, Tai shit. I'm okay with chopsticks. I don't really prefer them. You've been to Asia, though.

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This is a paid advertisement. Now let's get back to the show after the short disclaimer. Yeah, yeah. And so... I feel like you're getting off this whole... This story you just told me, by the way, it was just most insane. Yeah, there's so many details we got to unpack.

We can unpack it if you want to... My Japan story is now going to be close to what this is about to be. Are you not legally allowed to fight? like if you if you if you and someone else beat the shit out of each other there's mutual combat states I think like Seattle's like a mutual combat

or like Washington rather it's like a mutual combat I think everywhere should be mutual combat yeah yeah that should just I mean if you both get arrested just for fight like if you if me and you left here and we went outside and we like beat the fuck

out of each other and then we just like we're like I'll see you on Monday we would we both get arrested you that's a good ass question I wonder if that's like I think someone asked to press charge charges for assault. Yeah. I think you, I don't think you could just like, or maybe if someone

sees it. Yeah. I think whoever wins gets, gets arrested. Yeah, like, you can't lose a fight and get charges pressed on you. Yeah, that would suck, actually. That would be a bummer. That would blow. Yeah. Okay, wait, so in your fight, were you dressed? I was dressed in a button-down shirt with, like, shiny shoes on, like black patent leather shoes. As pig pen. Yeah, as pig pen. As, like, grown up. And you still have makeup on? It was, like, practice. So I was, like, wear a makeup. That would be amazing. Calling a play practice is hilarious.

It's a sport. Rehearsal, bro. Oh, fuck. It's rehearsal, dude. I did plays. I was a the thesbian. Like, I know that this is rehearsal. You did plays?

Of course, bro. I was Wickersham number three in Seuss School, the musical. That's pretty fucking good. Ha, ha said one. Ha, ha said the other. Ha, ha, ha, said the Wickersham brother. You guys know that. Of course.

And then I played Peter in Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe. Okay. That's the line? That's the main one. That's Aslan. Aslan's the lion. Come on, dude. Don't disrespect Aslan, bro.

I could never play Aslan. You definitely could. You literally look exactly like a lion. You couldn't look more like a lion. I would nothing like a lion. You're the most lion-looking human I've ever laid eyes on. Which, dude, someone said that. This girl was with, we're all like in this club thing.

And I was just like bopping around. And my old vibe of the club is just like pranks mostly. It's just like mischief. So it'll be like swapping someone's drink around. That's what he does. Yeah, yeah. special to. It's great. It's like doing magic tricks. It's just like kind of like just tomfoolery.

Yeah. And I didn't realize just how goofy I looked because afterwards we all got in the car. She was like, Mark, you look like, when you were in the club, your hair was just like looking crazy, like wild. I was like, thank you. She was like, you look like a lion. I was like, thank you so much. She's like, you know the guy from Wizard of Oz?

Oh, no. I was like, oh God. That's brutal. This is not the lion. That's the kind of one. That's the most cowardly line. Yeah, this is the worst lion. The one that's crying the entire movie. Yeah. They had a little bitch-ass line. Anyone who's ironically a line?

It doesn't stand on business. He relies all the... Yeah. Just crush me. A real line. Crush me with one line. But yeah, I was not Aslan. I was Peter.

Okay, leading man. That's my bad. That was disrespectful by me. Yeah. And that was just middle school. And then I got to high school and I just, I never picked it back up. You had to check out? Yeah.

But like... I think I was like, I only studied theater in college because I was like, like, Googling, like, how to become famous. Yeah. I was like, oh, fucking Brad Pitt. It studied theater. That's like, yeah, they're always like, well, you know, one time, yeah, one time Brad Pitt was a theater kid, not so lame anymore. That actually is true.

Maybe I should be a theater kid. Yeah, George Clooney was a theater kid. Yeah. I was the pariahs, the theater community, though. I was always wearing sweatpants. They didn't like it. Dude, come on. You have to wear your tights around.

I know. I did senior plays in high school, and I had, I was like an extra. I had like one big scene where like all the extras went out and I missed the scene during the play I was like in the bathroom or some shit missed it completely I went to rehearsal like twice a week

for like three months did all the shit and then just missed what was your part? Or what was your part? It was like student written plays and you were like a spin off of like Harry Potter or some shit. Oh that's sick yeah and you have to do it or you're like you need to be? You don't have to do it

most of the kids did it though Oh that's sick Yeah. It's fun. Yeah, I mean, it's fun just because you're hanging out with your friends the entire time. Yeah. Yeah. But then you went to the bathroom and missed the one part. I missed my only scene. Yeah. Come on. Like, I came back and they were like, it already happened. You missed it? Yeah. Like, fuck, all right.

So now what? Like, my mom was in the crowd. Take a picture of other kids. Like, waving at other kids. Did you bow at the end? And I was like, who the fuck is that guy? He was here. He was not in the ensemble cast. Yeah. I will say, I do you remember, we had two shows. We had one on, like, Friday.

one on Saturday. And I remember the Saturday, the Friday one was packed. Like, it was like a thousand person auditorium filled. And then the Saturday one, I remember I went out to like bow and it was like empty. There was like not even the first like three rows were filled up. And I remember I looked at one of my friends and I was like, dude, it's fucking empty in here. And then some girl came up and she was like, you're a fucking asshole. He was like a lot of people worked really hard on this. And I was like, the fuck was that. It's just a fact. Yeah. I'm just saying. It's not my fault. You guys can't sell tickets. Yeah, I didn't know No y'all were draws

I'm doing my part A thousand people showed yesterday Like I'm on an open mic right now What the hell Oh, that's brutal Yeah, I remember Those were like really fun Those like those like middle school

High school like productions Yeah Like that day you'd show up And you're like oh we're doing the choir today Yeah Like in eighth grade we did the choir And I was like so excited Yeah

And then we did like the performance Like for like Christmas or whatever And then the girl next We passed out Oh literally just like show. Stole the whole show. I was working on my lines the whole time. I was about to kill my shit. And then in the middle, she just passes

out like on to me. For attention. For attention, probably. That's what girls would do at the time. I think she wanted attention and then just passed up. People are always dropping on that, like in like band and chorus. Yeah, I've never had that. No, I've never had that. I've actually never even really heard of that happening

to like comedians. Oh, yeah, yeah. Like someone just dropping on stage? I guess I've heard of people like having, I feel like dying, but not of. I've heard of someone. died on the same before. But I've never heard of. Like, what is it? Just the lights? I don't know. I think you'd like buckle your knees.

Like you keep your knees super tight and then you like lose blood flow or something. I think I faked it one time. Just because I was like, this is something people do. You just fake it when you want to get out of like when you're just bored as fuck. I think I like fake to faint or some shit like that and like a choir or something like that. It was like I need to go like sit down. It was like a choir. Yeah, like choir show or some shit like that.

And like seventh grade or something. No way. fake fainted or something like that. I was like I need to go fucking sit outside. Wait, really? Because I think just other kids that did it and I was like they have to be like they like I didn't know what it was like I didn't know if they were actually like blacking out and falling over if they were just

like I feel bad so I'm gonna like. So I'm just gonna go limp yeah I'm a fake a diagnosis. Oh so I was in the experimental period of my life but I tried it out and they like I remember someone like sitting outside with me be like are you okay? Like yeah I think I'm actually fine I think that I didn't need to do that.

Yeah. Did you know people that did that where they faked being hurt and came to school for attention? Like fake cast, like fake crutches? There was kids, there was like two people in my school who one of them was on the spectrum. So it's probably not the best example to use. But there was a girl who was like injured for like eight years straight. Just had like a boot on her leg. And I was like, by the end, I was like there's no way that shit hasn't healed yet.

That is a long time. That is a fully healed leg. Yeah. It's high. Yeah. You just don't have shoes. You lost one of your shoes. That's why you're wearing a boot for eight years straight.

She's a shoeless by proxy. Yeah. Was she on the football team or something? Was she maybe like a tight end? A kicker? Yeah. She might have been, yeah. Think about it. I mean, that's crazy.

Yeah, we had that, like, at our school. There would be the girls that showed up. And there's like, especially like middle school where like they would have like cast, like head wrap. And you'd be like, what happened? They'd be like, long story. Head rap is crazy. Yeah, dude. There were girls with boots.

Fucking double boots. You don't see the double boot often. No, you never see the double boot. Roll both my ankles at the same time. What happened, bro? Yeah. It was always, I remember everyone was, everyone that got hurt growing up there, they were like, I fell in a ditch.

That was the biggest one. I was like, where are these ditches that you guys are all falling in? And how bad? I remember when one of my friends broke his arm and he was like, I fell in a ditch. And I remember in my, I didn't know what a ditch was. I remember in my head, I imagined him like at the bottom of like a 70-foot hole. Like his arm just in half.

127 hours style. He just hit a well. Just sawed his arm off. But it was really he just had abusive parents. Loser? Yeah, he was a fucking nerd. Yeah, your parents drink a lot. Like, fucking join the club, dude.

I think it was a badge of honor to be able to, like, pretend to limp, though. Oh, big time. Like, if you knew how to fucking, like, limp. Yeah. Especially for your work. Oh, yeah, for as a faker. Yeah, for your career as a thespian.

Yeah, somebody who would constantly fake shit. Bro, did you ever see the video of the people that audition to be extras on The Walking Dead? No. Oh my God. This shit is not I haven't. One of the all-time greatest videos. Let me pull this up.

Literally, it's just a bunch of people, like, it's a bunch of runs. Just like fucking standing around. Yeah. Being like, yo, I'm going to be in the Walking Dead. I'm going to be famous. I saw Brad Pitt actually was in the Walking Day when he was young. He was an extra in the Walking Dead. That's how he actually got his start.

Dude, they literally, hold on. This is. Watch. This is all-time, all-time great. Some great Thesps. This is going to give you flashbacks. Oh my God. Dude, that's...

That looks like one of those videos of like the... Like a local, like, punk show. That's the Mosh pit. Just fucking swing on people. What the fuck is up, Denny's exactly what I was saying. That's what it looks like. That's what they're doing. But it's so funny that they're all, like.

kind of like angling in front of each other to be towards the spotlight. They're like curling around each other. So the casting director's like, oh, number 16 is... Is there anyone doing a bad job, though? How are they narrowing this down? That's what I'm saying.

What is the casting director looking for? Like, you're a zombie. Like, what doesn't exist? And how much is too much? How much is too little? Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like, you as a thespian,

like, is there someone in here that he's really standing out? Well, 16, run it back. 16, or the red shirt. There's an Asian woman in a red shirt. shirt, she was terrible. She was bad. Yeah, oh my gosh. She was bringing nothing to the table. Yeah, like, she's, if you catch red shirt coming through. Yeah, yeah. She's doing literally nothing. Yeah, I think she's pulling for like a more like subtle kind of energy. But it's like, I guess you need that to flesh out a full zombie tribe.

Get it. Flesh out. See, you're with me. Fucking on it. But then a checkered shirt, I think is doing too much though. Way too much. That guy's doing way too much. With the white shirt, right? Just cut in front of checkered shirt. Yeah, white shirt going too much. Shorts doing too much. He's like, he's like kind of losing it a little bit. One of my favorite videos of all time. I love this. Dude, I always thought if there's a zombie apocalypse, I'm like, I'm getting bit purposefully. Really?

I think there's a lot more joy in being a zombie. Are you a bug hunter, dude? You're a bug hunter, dude. I mean, dude, I agree completely. I would rather be chased than be chased. I already be the zombie. You were played infected on Call of Duty? No.

No. Actually, not. Wait, why? Is this, is this a game mode on Call of Duty? Is this going to convince me? Infected in Call of Duty, it's a game mode where there's like 40 people in a game, and then a timer counts down from 15 seconds, and then one of the people gets infected. And then you have to kill someone, and everyone has guns.

Oh, that's fine. And you have to kill someone with a knife. And then eventually it gets down to like everyone, once you get killed, you get infected. And then it's last man standing. Yeah, all you have is a knife, and then the people that are still alive have a gun. And then it comes down at last minute. And do when you're like top three and you're still alive, it's fucking so tense. Yeah.

It's way more enjoyable when you're just. running around trying to kill the dude. Just like being like on top, on the roof of a mall, like worried that like someone's gonna come and like climb the side of there or some shit is that's the paranoia I don't really want. Especially if it's like the World War Z type zombies. I was just give in now though. Like just get like HIV now.

You know what I mean? Like just give like you could be dodging that, right? Dude, you guys are single. If I was a world. I'm married as you, right? Are you married? Yeah, yeah. That's cool.

Dude, if I was, you don't have to worry about it. Yeah. This is a zombie being men. Actually, you're the one that you're the, you're the, you're the, non-z zombie here. Yeah. Dude, if I was, if I was a World War Z zombie, have you ever seen that movie, World War Z? No. Dude, if I was one of those zombies, that would be better

than my life is currently. If you'd have a purpose, you'd get up every morning being like, community. Those dudes run like 900 miles per hour and they're like scaling buildings. Like, that would be significantly more enjoyable than my current life. Yeah, it is crazy. Like, the average athlete, or the average

zombie is just Tyree Hill. Like, why they're so athletic? It's insane. Like, they can't walk street, but could also climb buildings like insanely well. The zombies against Brazil's soccer team. Dude, who wins? I think it's the zombies easily. I'll probably think zombies, dude.

They can move, bro. They're studs. They're genuinely move. Their conditioning is out of this world. All they're doing is just hunting and they're all on the carnivore diet. Zero percent body fat. Yeah, they're doing a full carnivore. They're on liver king.

That's really how liver king lives. I don't know. I feel like I would want to like persevere. I would try to like, no, I'm going to fight. I'm going to. Dude, it would get so tiring. It'd probably be cool at first. Like when you first blow the head off of a zombie.

Yeah. Like, damn, that was so cool. And then after like a day, you'd be like just fucking... Eat's just like... Eat's it and like they just come back towards you again. Yeah, after your fucking eighth week of sleeping for an hour a night. Could you just pretend, like to be a zombie? How hard would that happen?

No, no. Like, do they know? Yeah. How does they know? Is it smell? I think it's because you're flesh. You'd have such healthy flesh that you'll just seek you out. Yeah, I guess my bad.

I'm not rotting from the inside of eye. I'm not the living dead. It'd probably be kind of a giveaway. Damn. I can't believe leprosy even ever existed, honestly. I guess it still does. Yeah. But that's like,

that's modern zombies. Going away. Isn't that crazy? I didn't know, like, I didn't know why that was bad until I was like way too old. I remember like reading about it in the Bible.

Like, yeah. Yeah, it's like all over the Bible. There's like lepers. They can't stop talking about it in the Bible. Yeah, it's nonstop coverage. Like, you never read the Bible, dude. You got to start. It's so good.

It's incredible. Dude, it's a sick book. I've heard it's good. It's on my list of books. The twists and turns, dude, you'll never see what. Don't spoil it. You're gonna hate the main character at first, but then by the end, you're gonna be like,

this guy's the sickest guy. He's the one. Awesome, dude. He's like a goody-tuce at the beginning to be like, no, he's got a harder goal. It is, it is awesome. But no, they talk about leprosies the whole time. And I remember asked my mom was like,

so wait, these guys do whatever they want, they don't feel pain. Yeah. That's bad? Yeah, it seems sweet. It seems sweet. But that makes you, it sound like your own zombie side. Yeah, yeah.

You're more zombie than not. But then there's like leper colonies. Like, uh, like, uh, like, lepercones. I was like, yeah. Not in the Bible. Leperone, there's no record of that. No, there's like, uh, in Hawaii, or maybe there were or there still are, leper colonies in Hawaii?

Yeah, they, I don't know if it's in Hawaii. I haven't looked at that. But I know they put them together. I don't know why that's, like, oh, it's super contagious. Like, it's like, if you, like, touch a leper, you could get lepers in. Then there's, like, there's, there's, there's, like, there's, fearless priests who would just go like walk among them or whatever and just like for i think the one priest was out there for like 20 years like just uh serving the lepers i don't know what he was doing for him

this is all coming back to world war z yeah yeah he's got to like get close with them you know i mean like even the priest was just trying to get ahead of it yeah he's like look at them on their good list now like when the day comes they'll look at me and be like hey don't come to school today yeah i mean like they'll give me a pass you have you ever seen roll war z i don't think i have you guys Do you guys know the famous scene where it's like the little kid? Of course. He kills the dog at the end. No, no, no.

Is that it? They storm the beach, bro. They're all like, oh, we're going to get him. There's a little kid, and he's bald because he's cancer, and he's, like, standing in the center of the zombies, and they're all just flying by him because he, like, faced them. But I think it's actually just because they don't want to eat him because he's sick. He's turned.

He's gone bad. Yeah. That's actually what it is. He's literally passed his expiration days. I guess he's nothing like World War II. I was thinking about the priest just being out there. Maybe they didn't want to eat the priest because they didn't want to catch pedophilia. It was definitely sexually transmitted to leprosy and he just wouldn't fuck that.

Apparently you get it from armadillos also. Really? Have you heard of eating them or just coming in contact? I think some armadillos get leprosy. And then if you touch an armadillo with leprosy and you get it. It's like the main proponent of like leprosy nowadays. I'm pretty sure it's armadillo. Isn't there like, what do you, don't like koalas get some?

Chlamydia. Yeah. Yeah. All of clemenia, dude. Yeah. Yeah. And most Australian women also. Really?

It's the whole continent. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah. It starts to they're fucking the koalas or what? I don't even know it, dude. I don't even know which way it starts. Yeah. But no, the quala's got full on chlamydia.

And like, if you hold them, they're like, they always tell you that as like a fun fact. Like we did it. And like, the second you hold them, they're like, you know, most koalas have chlamydia. I'm like, okay, is this this one? And they're like, nah. I'm not having fun. This is not.

Don't trick me with like a fucking virus. I don't want to get committed. Not comedienate. Do you know how hard to explain to my girl? I'd be like, look, I got the clap. But it's not what you think. It's not what you think. It was just because I was just a little bear.

I was hanging with. I don't know. I'm so grateful I don't have to worry about any diseases. That's the thing about getting married that I don't tell you. It's amazing. Were you worried about diseases before you got married? It's just in general. It was casual sex just seemed so high stakes.

It was like diseases, pregnancy. Like, oh. Sounds sure. You got to start playing more video games. Stop worrying about all that shit. You got to stop drinking and get inside. That's what I'm saying, man. Just getting inside quarantine.

It was like my whole life. That's basically what I did. Like, how old are you getting married? 32. How old are you in it? 35. Oh, hell yeah, dude. Yeah.

I'd say you're like 27. Hell yeah, bro. I'd say you're like 27. Oh, yeah? Yeah, exactly. I just think everyone's my age. I think everyone's 27. That's what I thought.

27 is the sweetest age. You think so? I think it's the... Actually, you could say that about a lot of ages, but it's a very... It's a nice sweet spot. Yeah. You're old enough that you have like a...

grip on things but young enough that you're literally still invincible. Like I could fucking throw that arrow through your chest right now. You're not fucking dying. Dude, when I moved to New York, I thought everyone was like 19. You thought everyone was younger? When I moved to New York

I thought everyone was my... I thought Rome was younger than me when I met him. Because he also didn't have facial hair when I'm at I'd have terrible facial hair then. This is nice. No, no. I need to get rid of this shit, dude. Have you been bagging on you? This is a nice beer. No, I've been bagging on. myself, dude. I've been

eight mile in myself. I am white. I am a fucking bo. Just in the mirror? Every morning? Every day. Dude, I've never, I've never thought people were, like, my age. I genuinely was always like, oh, everyone's older. Really? Like, I thought you were probably my exact age. You're how old?

22. So I'm saying. Like, I assume everyone is older than men. Yeah. I have so many older siblings. I have five older siblings. Oh, okay. That makes sense. So I was like, yeah, everyone in my mind. Are you the youngest? I have one younger sister. Damn. Yeah, seven kids. Your parents were. getting it. Day, it's sex seven times. That's so many times.

It's fucking crazy, right? Like, what are they doing? But you're not Irish, you're not Italian. French Canadian. Yeah? Is there a, like, stigma about French Canadians having a lot of kids, or was it your parents just, stigma? I mean, my dad was...

He was just a stick. He was just a unit. Yeah, just stig my dick in his mom's mom. No, he just literally was just going after it. They're Catholic people. Oh, Catholic. Catholic. Catholic.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So no birth control allowed for Catholics. Yeah. Yeah. That's just like, that's the rule. You're technically not even supposed to use condoms, right? No birth control at all. Is condoms birth control?

That counts as birth control? I guess that makes sense. Controls. I like where your head's at, though. Does that even count as birth control? But when I think of birth control, I think of birth control of pills. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pills or like IUDs.

Yeah. Passage. You can't do, some like staunch Catholics say you can't even pull out. Damn. You can't do anything to inhibit bringing life into the world. And then Mormons, they do... Oh, they soak it up. They soak, yeah, they strictly pull out.

They don't even come. Like, really? I thought soaking was like, you just like push each other together. Yeah, but I don't think you come. Oh, really? So you're just edging the whole time. Yeah, thank. I did a video on it one time.

I went to BYU and University of Utah. I should have done. Got a little... Let me hop in. In between my mattresses? So that's like an advanced... Like, that's like the more, that's like, that's like durfing. I think they call that durfing as well.

The one that you told me about with the mattresses? Yeah, where they like, yeah, they sway you back and forth. But can you explain so? Dude, so. Could you hand me one of those drinks? So should we do another shot of fake whiskey? God, you know? Things for nap.

We're getting loose, bro. Wait, what is soaking for anyone that is no? You put the car in the garage and you just leave it in park. It just idols there. You put a penis into a vagina and there's no humping, because humping is the act of sin. That's where the sex comes into play. If you just put it there and you just leave it there, then, like, in the eyes of God, that's like a loophole.

That and the poophole loophole, anal sex, are the two ways that they... Can they thrust with anal? Yes, they get thrust with anal. Vaginal thrusting sex is the main thing that the Mormons are not cool with. But they would do... But then the other thing... Or they also call that durfing, but, like, I think the real durfing is when you're between two mattresses. And I think it's usually standing up.

So they'll either do standing up. You'll insert between two mattresses. and like the friends will wave you back and forth, like you're at a stadium, and simulate that sexual motion a little bit, or, like, they'll stand around you on a bed and jump up and down on the bed to, like, hump your dick for you.

And those are like the... Like a temporepetic commercial? Yeah, kind of. The wine doesn't move. My penis stays still. Everyone jumps around me. They should run that ad, dude. That's crazy.

Isn't that nuts? I've never heard the derfing, I've never heard the standing up. That one's insane. That sounds like a hazing ritual. There's no way. It's like, yeah, we're going to put each other together. Also, where are they finding the space?

Yeah. For that. What do you mean? Like a hallway? Like a hallway? Yeah, yeah. 30 of us on this side. Right?

Do you get to draft? Like who you get on your side? Yeah, yeah. Like a big ass. I would want the big guys. Yeah, I need the football team. I need like the Samoan lineman. He knows tackled.

Just durf the fuck out of me. But some of the people were, like, even the people that talked about it in the video, they said they had like their bishop, who's there, like, basically an archbishop, came to their house and, like, excommunicated them for being in the video. And then there were other people in the video who were like, or people responding to the video being like, this is bullshit. This didn't actually happen. But then girls would hit me up and be like, I'll, I'll give you a list of 20 players who played for BYU and the University of Utah that, like, took place in these exact behaviors. It's like, I think it's like

So it sounds like it's a luxury. Like, jerking is a luxury. It's not in the common man. Yeah, it's the higher class. You gotta have a pack of 30 dudes. Yeah, you gotta be echeloned up. Yeah.

Have you, but have you guys been on the, like, BYU, like, TikToks and stuff like that? There's like full on TikTok accounts where they just go and interview people.

Oh, I've seen that shit. Yeah. And they talk about, they talk about soaking and... Yeah, they're like, another 9-11 or one sip of a bud light. And they're like,

five, nine-11. to be honest. Why are you filming right now? Okay, 6-9-11s or a sip of a bun. That's like literally like that's what their answers are like. Or they'll be like when was the first like how soon did people start dating? And they'll be like first day of freshman year like they saw a guy proposed to girls. Like they met immediately.

That's wild. That's hilarious. Do you have to be Mormon to go to that school? I don't think so. But you just wouldn't go otherwise. Zach Wilson went to BYU, right? And he's Mormon. He's Mormon.

Oh, I didn't know he was actually Mormon. Yeah, what? I thought he was just faking it for attention. No, I thought the Mormon Mahomes thing was it. I thought it was the best school he could get into. No, he's, I think, a very legitimate Mormon. That's crazy. Wait, who is this?

Zach Wilson? He had a just quarterback. Or he was a very high draft pick. He was like a stud. But he's terrible. Yeah. And I think he also, like, had sex with his mom's mom's friend. Or his mom's friend. No, his friend's mom, I think. Mom's friend. I mean, they're both pretty hot.

I think he's mom's friend because there's a picture of the mom's with all of them and it was like, it's this lady on the far left. That's crazy. That's way, that's sick. Your mom's friend. And he's a Mormon. Like, that's so taboo. That's such like a dirty.

Yeah. Is he married? No, he's, I think he's your age. So he just broke free. So he's out here, just in the world. He's a jet's quarterback. He's like in New York living like a Mark Sanchez type of life. Like he's just, I think he's on like a rumshbringer type of vibe.

Like he's just in the world. Did you know like the actual religion? What is the actual? religion called Mormon? Mormonism? What is it? The Church of L-D-S? L-D-S. Yeah, yeah. Dude, that's only been around since like 1812. Yeah, Joseph Smith. Yeah. Discovered some tablets and was like,

God wrote these. Jesus came to America. Yeah. It's all coming together. It's crazy. Yeah, it's kind of, I mean, low-key, though, people talk about how crazy Mormons are, which I get. With all that being said, I love Mormons. Yeah, and I only have ever met a Mormon. Oh, God, dude. They're just good folk. They're great. I genuinely, I continually want to raise my kids Mormon.

Yeah. Home-schooled Mormons. I'm halfway Mormon, bro. Like, I have all of the attributes of a good Mormon. Like, literally, like, my parents had a bunch of kids, grew up very religious. I got married young, closeted gay. I have everything. I'm literally doing it.

But, like, you have to understand, Mormons, they do a mission. Yeah. Which is the most genius thing of any religious group ever to exist. Yeah. Okay? This is from a diehard Catholic, okay? Why is a genius? Because you go 18 years old, all right?

You get sent some random place in the world, like a GTA mission. Literally, it's like, hey, you're going to Ghana, and you're like, all right. So at 18 years old, you pack up all your shit, you say buy to your family, you and some random dude go to Ghana, and you just have to figure it out. Yeah. You have some resources, like you have like support lines and people helping you with shit. You have to go door to door selling the most personal thing in your entire life. The thing that you care about the most get rejected every single day over and over and over. You happen to learn a new language.

You learn a new culture. You get, like, friends and experience. You do that for two years. You don't talk to, you don't really even have, like, a phone. Like, you're not, like, on Instagram, like, doing whatever. Yeah. You play basketball. Like, all those dudes are always sick at basketball.

They can always dunk. You learn a new language. You get to chill with your boy. And then you get to, like, face rejection and learn how to sell. And then you come back to America. You go to college. You get a full ride at BYU or whatever. And then literally all of my friends that are Mormon or that grew up or ex-Mormon or whatever,

they're all, like, the heads of, these multinational companies, and they all, like, speak Portuguese, so they're working with, like, this Brazilian company doing shipping to America. They all make crazy money and just live an awesome life. Yeah, it is a great life experience. Bro, it's insane. So I was like, yeah, okay, minus, like, some of the culty stuff and, like, maybe some abuse and whatever else happens. Can't drink any caffeine, actually. Look, there's pro-s and cons. That's all you're trying to prime. There's fucking mortal sin. Yeah. There's pros and cons. Execute him. Yeah. If you think coffee is bad, I'm sure prime in the world, Mormon world. Dude, I bet you have a Mormon event.

They could be like, no, this is sick. You can't even drink soda. Oh, really? Yeah, you can't drink sodies. Or, uh, caffeine. So you can have a caffeine-free soda, I think. Oh, yeah, probably. It's got to just be specifically.

Golden Coke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you do that golden Coke, whatever. But some of them have, uh, multiple wives, too. Yeah. Polite me was a thing. Dude, being a girl, Mormon would be not bad. They don't do shit.

They also get to do missions. They get to go to San Diego. Do they do missions? Some of them. They, but they keep them, like, kind of like, interior. I don't think they do. Some of them. Some of them. Some of them are going to San Diego.

They're definitely going to San Diego. They don't do anything. Dude, I watch, what is that show? Do you guys watch that show, the Mormon show? It was like a thriller, true crime. It was Andrew Garfield. It was Jack Crackauer wrote it. No.

It was like heaven. Fuck, I forget what it was called. Heaven can wait? No. But pretty much they... Seventh heaven? No. No.

I forget what you have. what it was called. But pretty much they just show the women and it's like all the men are out like working and like the women try and work and the family's like get the fuck back. You don't do shit. You don't have to do shit. Dude, real housewives of Salt Lake City,

half of them are Mormon. And the one girl married her grandfather. Oh, fuck. It was like the first episode. They're like, that's her only storyline. It's that she married her grandfather. That's crazy. Because it was like her grandmom's wish for her grandfather. He was like...

Smash? Did they smash? I mean... There's no way. Yeah. At least soaked. That would be way worse. That's crazy. She married her grandfather.

Imagine having to soak with your grandfather. Yeah, I'd rather fuck. That's crazy. Yeah. Something about like the quiet, just silence. Like the stationary fishness of it. And your mansion and they're like massive house. She's so rich.

Like Gucci everything. Like she has beautiful clothes, beautiful home. Like beautiful everything. But she, her... like grandmother's dying wish was that her husband marries the granddaughter and it's this... That's kind of hilarious by the grandmother. You just fuck up

the whole family. If I'm going to die I'm destroying the whole family. Yeah, my dying wish is going to be insane. My dying wish, we need to invade Ukraine as my family. It probably was someone's... That's why we're doing it. Insane, it's so crazy. Also, she didn't

have to do it. It's not like it's legally binding. Be like, hey, grandma's dying wish was to bang your grandpa. I think there was also a financial aspect of it. Fuck grandma then. That's crazy. She's dead. That's insane. What? I think it was like a financial, like, I want you to have all this.

Yeah, probably the big tax breaks in there. Yeah, there's something Fugasey going on. If you fuck your grandfather, you get like, you get like a 50%. Like, what? Is this like a Mr. Beast video? It's like, fuck your grandpa, get an island. Do you like? I don't fuck my grandpa's.

A Japanese game show. Tons of people would do that. Tons of people. And grandpops are just getting hotter and hotter and more fetishized, too. Really? Yeah. You don't think so? us.

Those grandpops. They've been going after us. I don't know. There is like a little fetishization. If you say young, I see it actually, I'll be honest, between, like, in, like, black community. Like an older black dude with, like, a beard and, like, sunglasses. And, like, a L'Gs.

Yeah, the OGs. Yeah, the OGs, like, the O'Gs, like the Outs. Yeah. Like, Bluetooth and, like, a Jeff Cap on. Yeah. Like, I'll follow, like, shade room. They'll be like, what do you think about these unkey? These uncles are.

Yeah. And all the comments are like, ooh. So I'm like, they're getting fetishized. You know what I mean? It's going to come to us eventually. Truly believe that. Especially, yeah, people marry young. Like, there's people, there's like 45-year-old grandpas out here.

Yeah. That's hot. That's crazy. You don't think that's hot, bro? No. You need to fucking readjust your worldview. Your grandfather is crazy. You're bigoted, bro.

It is weird to think that, like, if you have kids, you'll be a grandfather. You know what I mean? Like, do you want to have kids one day? Yeah. So, like, you're going to be a grandpa. Isn't that crazy to think? Future grandpa, grandpa in training. It's like the kid who said he's like, you're talking to a future Marine.

Yeah, you're talking to a future U. Future U. grandpa. I have some fucking respect. Yeah, check your tone. Are you on the kid journey at all? Eventually. Yeah, just not right now. I mean, I'm like down now. I'll be honest. I'm like, we're not, it's like not an explicit

effort, but like I'm not. You know what I mean? It is interesting when you when you're in when you're in the streets, you're like, I need to do everything to not get pregnant. And then your mindset completely changes. You're like, damn, I'm having sex for procreative purposes. Yeah, I'm doing this shit on purpose.

That shit is way cooler, in my opinion. Oh yeah Yeah, it's like kind of lit It's how the big man intended Do you have kids? No, no, I don't Three Triplets

It has that vibe It doesn't it There was a You have a Christian dad vibe Like I will be honest P Holmes Did you tell you that Like you could be like a youth pastor

That's love And like people would like Really fuck Like I would go to your youth group Yeah playing like guitar And being like Our God Is an awesome god

People will go with it I let's freestyle now Yeah Free style for cute Yeah I think people would like that I think they would too.

Are you gonna have kids? Are you're married? I'm married. A wonderful wife, I'm sure. Yeah, she's great. I don't, so I'm not like, like I'm not opposed to it. I'm probably in like the same phase as you are.

I'm like finally, for a lot of it is like, I don't want to be having kids poor. You know what I mean? Like I'm finally at a point of like some financial stability. Yeah. Whereas the same with getting married.

I was like, I'm not trying to get married poor. I'm not trying to have kids poor. Like I want to make sure that I'm okay first. Oh, I did. I got married poor. Did you? Yeah.

Yeah. Our wedding was like four. thousand dollars. Was it? I spent all my own money. Damn. What did you spend it on? What are the, what did the fourth, if you only have four thousand dollars, what does it go to? It's like K-Bel speaker. Yeah, J-Bel Bluetooth speaker, Spotify Unlimited. It's like there's a lot it adds up, dude. You don't realize it, but no, bro, you fucking cater barbecue. It gets fucking expensive. That's what you have to do is cater barbecue that everybody can kind of just stand in line and get buffet style. We almost did it like in the backyard type shit. Right, that's what you do. We got married to the Millico.

COVID, like, literally dead center. Like, it was reckless, okay? Like, if, genuinely, if COVID was a real thing, I would have felt bad. But, like, no, it literally was in the middle. It was like September 2020. So we were supposed to get married March 2020. And then the fucking, like. March what?

March 2020. We're supposed to get married. No, what date of March? Because that's when it happened in March, right? It was like the day at all stops. So literally, like, as things were happening, people were getting scared, we canceled like three, like, like, a month before. Like, as things were kind of bubbling.

And so we're like, all right, let's just move it. We move it to September, and then cases start going down. It's down in Florida. There's no problem, you know what I mean? And basically we're all like, oh, this is done. Yeah. And then it was not done. No, that's when I was around dropped.

Yeah, literally. But like that day we got married was like the lowest cases in the country. So we're like, oh, we're good. Oh, that's awesome. It keeps on going to go ahead. So this is not going to be a super spreader. And then it's spiked. Yeah.

Then it was the, yeah. That was the lynch period. That was the lynch pit. right there. That was it. But no one got covered from the wedding. How many people were there? It's like 100 people. That's nice. That's a nice size. Yeah. But it was like I don't think it was actually 4 grand. It's probably like 8 or 9.

But it was like... Four grand of your money. It was like, damn, your old money I had. My aunt was like, I got the DJ. Thanks. I appreciate that. But you don't realize how expensive that shit. Dude, it's so expensive. Was your wedding crazy expensive? It was very expensive. It wasn't massive. Yeah, I wasn't invited.

Really? Come on. Why did you invite Saz? Too expensive, dude. Were you guys friends at this time? I have like a... We had just started the podcast right then. Yeah, we started the podcast like, we were probably like five episodes in when the wedding happened.

I mean, that's like kind of intimate. No, but the letters and shit already went out. The invites. Or the dynamic at Barstool too is like either you're like inviting nobody or you're inviting everybody. It's like, but I mean if it happened today like Sass would be on the nobody, like you still wouldn't get a. invited but yeah. No, if it happened

today, Sass would definitely get invited. But it was also like, who does my wife know? Like, I'm not trying to just have people from work and then trying to be like,

dude, fucking Portland. He's such an asshole. Like, trying to talk work at the wedding or something shit. Yeah, that's what it would absolutely have been. Yeah.

Did you invite? No, no. That would have been an automatic invite because even if he can't go, assuming he's busy, he still gets you a gift.

That would be nice. And he's like gone to every other of my co-workers' wedding. Yeah. Definitely would go. Yeah. I mean, it would have been, it's like a tough spot because, like, do you want your family being, like, going up to him the entire night and just, like, trying to, like, talk pizza reviews or some shit? I feel like that'd be a lose, lose. Yeah, especially like.

I'm trying to make it about me, okay? Yeah. No, I mean, it should be in Philly. No, it's... I feel like you went, uh, you went a little too harsh on Angelo's. Yeah. What's wrong with Peekis pizza, dude? You woke out of Peikis? Or Westchester Poik? Yeah, that's a good point.

If people don't know that. The middle of the reception. Yeah. Literally. You're like walking out. Was it in a church? No, it was, that was one thing that I didn't want. Like, I'm pretty, or my family's Catholic.

Yeah, you don't want to bring God into this. Yeah, this isn't between me and her, all right? Fucking mind your business. But we just, we did it outside behind the art museum. I don't know if you ever been to Philly, but it was, it's like right on the water. Beautiful, lovely area. Right here. Beautiful.

Sass, you would have been there, bro. I've seen it. I wish you could have gone. I wish you could have been there, dude. I know. Not out, me too. It would have been big for you. Would have been big.

Fuck, dude. Are you inviting him to your wedding? Hell no. He's trying to keep barstool out of it, man. He's getting married to the game, dude. He's getting married to stand up, dude. Have you had a long-term relationship? Yeah, yeah.

What's the longest? Year? That's pretty good. That's not bad. 22 is not bad. Yeah. Nothing wrong with that. No?

Yeah, I definitely hadn't had a long-term relationship at 22. Yeah? Look at you now. But you're in no rush. You're not like, dude, I need to. get married. No, not at all. The exact opposite. My life is fucking, like, I can barely take

care of myself. But see, that's the beauty of getting married, dude. Yeah. Someone else. You know what to take care of you? Yeah, someone else helping out, dude. You get a nanny for yourself? Yeah, well, I call her my wife, but yeah, you can call it whatever you want. You could say, there's a lot of different ways to kind of. In what ways does she take care of you?

No, she just helps with everything. She just makes my life genuinely so much better. Yeah? Like, emotional support is probably the biggest thing. Just coming home being like, fuck everything. And she's like, I agree. I'm like, thanks. You didn't even have to say that, but you did. That's so nice. That is nice. And then just like, I mean, being in touch with my family, like her best friends or like my siblings,

I'm like, this is so nice. That's awesome. She's just like connected with my family and connects me with my family more. Like if I, if she wasn't around, I would talk to my family pretty little, I feel like. Like I just don't, like, I don't know. I just get so caught up. I don't always keep in touch. Yeah. But what about on like a procedural level, like doing things? Do you do. a lot of the things? Does she do a lot of the things?

I can't lead with that because then I sound like an asshole. So I had to say the other stuff. But what I really want to say is that she replaces the orange slices every time. She gets new mangoes. Like, anytime I eat the dried mangoes, there's more dry mangoes. Like, anytime the d'anamels run out, there's more d'anals.

I think I, like, expected that. My wife was like, no, dude, you're doing this shit. Yeah. But then we cut it up, though. So I'm, like, big on dishes. I'm always doing dishes. I'd rather get the mangoes than the d'a animals. No, no, no, no, no, I love, I love doing this. Short, sure.

It is meditative. Yeah, exactly. Dude, I've, I've had dishes in my sink for the last eight months, three. That I've just been sitting in there. Yeah, just piling up. Yeah. Yeah, you just only wash the fork that you need. Dude, my kitchen, I literally do that.

Yeah. I'll order food and I'll wash one for that's in the sink. And barely even wash it. Yeah, yeah. You just put it in the shower with you. You're like, this is good enough. My kitchen in my apartment is so small. it's like smaller than this table

and uh I drink a lot of seltzer and I today I was leaving and I turned around and I just like I never noticed but the dude it's the whole kitchen is just boxes of empty seltzer like it's like you can't see he has no like trash receptacle

in the entire apartment so it's just like everything it's just like different uh stacks and piles not to put you on front street I mean I clean it up I clean it up nice but the kitchen is a fucking nightmare the whole thing is just I mean the whole thing is just I mean the whole thing What even happens with laundry?

I do long. I mean, I bring it to a washing fold. Piles? How frequently? You know, when I'm available? You know what I like? You know what I really like doing is doing laundry on the road. I mean, that's an insane take.

That's a wild take. Dude, doing it at a hotel? You just go down and you go, let me get some detergent to dollar. It's so expensive. Wait, what do you mean? Like, with like the hotel washing machine? Yeah. What hotels are you staying?

I don't know. There's a washing machine like that. Dude, like every single hotel is a washing machine. That's crazy. Yeah. Dude, are you guys not? Four seasons for what the fuck? Yeah, that's incredible.

Dude, when you, any hotel, like the fucking, the Hilton has a washing machine. Dude, just go downstairs and be like, where's the washing machine? There's literally, it'll be a closet with a washing machine. Do you say that panicked? Where is it? It's a wash machine. Wait, sorry, are you bringing a suitcase of dirty clothes onto the road so you can? Yes.

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No, dude, there isn't. No, there is. I put out a, like, a public service announcement. I was like, what is there? I never do this. But I was like, what is there to do in Houston? Every reply was just absolutely nothing. Didn't Keith Lee say it's like the best food city in America? Yeah, dude, I'm so fucking sick of that

shit, though. The food. every city you go to, oh dude, great food here though. Crazy hot take. You know what I'm sick of? Food, I'm tired of it. Dude, every city you go to, they're like, oh, you've got to try our fucking our dish. It's better if you're blackout drunk, but if you're not, it's probably going to make you sick. It's really bad. But when you're hammered, dude, it's great. You think there's not good food in cities?

Like, what are you talking about? Dude, what food is there in Houston that I can't just get in New York? There's probably, like, great decadent bakeries or fucking, like, great Mexican food? Barbecue. But all that's going to do is just make me have diarrhea. So it's like I'm going to go eat shit and then shit so much out of my ass and feel bad. I do. Like good food should not give you just diarrhea.

Oh, dude, anything I eat. I got to eat like the same meal every day. That sounds like a you problem, not a food problem. No, it's not blaming food for it. But it's like I went to Louisville. Louisville can't be a good food city. Worst city I've ever been to in my entire life. And everyone's like, good food and drinks here though.

You got to check out the food and drinks. It's like, what, like a cheeseburger and a Budlight? Yeah, that's tough to come by in every single city in the world. New York spoils you, that's fair. Yeah, but you don't get good food in New York either. Yeah, I do. It's sushi last night.

From where? Shrimp tempura. It was great. Now we can get back to the Japan stories. Shrimp tempore, that's just a chicken nugia. Yeah, exactly. I had sushi, dude. I literally had honey mustard, shrimp, chicken, tempura.

Chick-fil-A. No, but it's like, dude, everywhere you go. No, it's just, that's because you're also like a foodie. I like good food, but I don't think I was always that way, but I feel like I've like, but I've done the food toward. But I've done the food toward. I've tried to expand to try and find and seek out good food. No, I've tried that too.

And then you just get to a point where you're like, it's all the same. It's all just like, it's all good. Yeah. I've never like, when people are like, oh, you got to try this food, it's, I'm never going there being like, oh, that sucked. But it's like, is that enough to that, first of all, that's an hour. Is it laundry? Is it good as doing laundry? No, not even close.

Yeah, I mean, what is food compared to just, like, washing your favorite stuff? That you took across the country and a Delta bag. You have two checked bags. This is clean. This is dirty. Just like, hey, sweetie, like, pulling your socks out of your bag. Did you have a good flight? The TSA people are like, what is in this?

You're like, this is colored. And this is white. And just, you know, I got to take it down to Houston and wash it. The longest laundry journey of all time. Dude, it's... I promise you, it's the way to go. I don't know. I mean, that's just insane.

No, you're wrong. There's no doubt of my mind. You're a food guy that you're worldly enough that you like and appreciate different types of good food. Yeah, I do enjoy that. That's like the only thing that I've ever spent money on ever. Yeah. Like I don't buy anything. Like any money I've ever made, like we go on the road, we get 100 bucks.

I'm like, my wife and I are going to have a nice meal. Yes. That's the only thing I put it into. It's so worthwhile. That's how I feel. Especially in New York. There's just so much good food. But then other times I'm like maybe I do just want to go to Washington Fold and just have a fucking night.

You know what I mean? Alright, no, what I mean when I say this is when people say, when you say there's nothing to do in this city and people go, oh, there's good food. Like, that doesn't help me at all. That's one hour out of the day. So is laundry, though. How long is laundry? Dude, two hours, first of all. But what are you looking for? Like, go-carts? Like, what is like... Yeah, that would be awesome. Every city has go-cars.

I went to St. Louis recently, and we had to fucking go bowling. We went to a black bowling alley. it was us sandwich in between two two massive black birthday parties That sounds fun It was fun, but it was like that was the best thing we could come up to come up with to do In St. Luke in a 2 million person city

The question of what is there to do I think is a bad question I agree because then I think about if someone was coming to New York and they'd be like, what do you think? That's what I'm saying? I'd be like, there's good food And again, I know you just asked it and I'm not saying this respectfully. It is a bad question

because it's like what does that mean? Yeah, what is there to do? It's like, I don't even know you. I think there's just not a lot of good stuff to do in most cities. But what do you like to do? That's really question. Or it's like, yeah, if you love shooting guns, it's like, where can I shoot guns in this city?

Yeah. If you love fishing. There's a ton of neighborhoods. You can go ahead and get into it. Most of St. Louis. You can get out of it so easily. Like, there's so much opportunity for gun violence. Like, that'd be awesome.

But yeah. Or like fishing, you love fishing. Like, why not just be like, what are the good fishing spots? You can fish in everything. I literally, I went on trout routes last night. There's no fucking public water in Texas. All the water in Texas is owned. Not all of it, but like a large majority.

Are you whistleblowing right now? Is this a larger conspiracy that you're just about to... No, no, this is real. This is true. This is true. I looked it up, dude. There's no... That can't be true.

What about, like, Lake Charles in Austin? Who's Charles? That's really the question you have to ask. You gotta talk to Charles before you go back in there. Prince Charles. Exactly. That prince Charles. Yeah, that makes sense.

Now makes sense. We're touching something here. I don't know if we're... We really want to get into it. Yeah, we should back off. Bro, I was fully... This is the Rothschilds. It goes so hot.

We don't even know how deep this goes. I was fully ready. I'll hit up Coach Prime. We'll get you to his ranch. Me and fucking Travis. Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter can go fishing for bass. He has like a stock pond in his backyard.

Big old bass. Do you have a specific fishing style? Do you only like trout fishing? I like fly fishing, yeah. Okay, see, this is now a little more specific. It's going to be harder to fly fish. Do you like make your own flies and get into the whole vise? of it? No. I want to try it, but

I don't have the space to do that shit. To make a fly? I don't have like an area where I can like put up the you have to like have this. You just said that for your entire counter is celtzers. Why not? If you clear out the celtzers, I feel like there be plenty of five. My kitchen is just for reference. You need about

two square feet. Yeah, exactly. That's my, that's where I play video games on my desk, so I have nowhere else to get out. But if I have a pizza box with nine plates stacked up, I'm like, where am I going to put that? You know what I mean? It's important. I have a pile of socks. And I'm not in Houston right now.

I'm not there yet. But you're blaming it on space. It was insane. But you can fly fish anywhere. It doesn't have to be for trout. It's just ideal for me to trout fish. It's an insane thing, right? You're finding an excuse to not have fun is what it comes down to.

Bro, I put out the announcement looking to have fun. And people, I can read you the DMs. They're going, nothing. They're saying come to Austin instead. It's better. Don't even go. Just get a little more specific. Just be like, hey, I like these four things. Or just don't have a pond like a fish in.

Is there a spot like a fish at? Because there's a guy that probably read that. He has a stocked pond. There's a guy with a stocked pond that read that. Then you got to hang out with him all day. No, just be like. He's probably weird as shit. Tell him you're sick. Tell him, hey, I have COVID.

Yeah, I got COVID. But I do need to fish. I'm leprosy. Yeah. I came back from a show in Hawaii at a colony. It's terrible leprosy. It's a weird itch and now I can't feel in. but I do need to fish, though.

I need fishing. That's the only key is to cure. Yeah, it's a panacee. What do you do on the road? On the road, well, that's the thing. Like, we're with all your boys. That's the same. We're with Schultzzi and Derek Post and the rest of the guys.

Yeah. And so it's like eight of us. And so we'll just like, yeah, it's like wake up, work out almost everywhere. The first thing we do in the day is workout. You're not losing me there. But no, that is actually the best thing. No, I've been trying to work out more. It feels so good.

You start off the day and you're like, even if I bomb these sets, I've worked out. Yeah, so everything's good. It wasn't a total fail of it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I'm not going to kill myself. And then you've earned all your fun. Then you can like drink or eat whatever you want for the rest of the day. You can cheat on the rest of the day.

So many things. Cheat all day. Yeah, just cheat on top. Cheat on cheat day. Like that's a thrill. Yo, who's down to cheat in Houston. Yeah, coming down to Houston this weekend, things I like to do. Any girls to do?

Yeah. Any girls trying to ruin my marriage and interested in Houston? Which is what this text is. I don't know if you're this kind of guy, but most of the time when guys are like, Houston, I made it. I'm out here just landed. Like a picture of the airport.

Yeah, no. That is just like the laziest thirst trap. Yeah. Truly, it was trying to get into the lights. Yeah. But you're just trying to fish. That's truly the only thing I want to do. I'm going to go fishing tomorrow.

But in the city? I go to New Jersey. In Central Park with Tucker Carlson? Yeah, me and Tucker. Oh yeah. He's actually fly fishing. Why are you filming me? Why are you filming me?

Are you allowed to fish here? Yeah, but why are you filming? And he's like, he didn't handle that pretty well. He did. He's like, what are you doing? He's like, well, I'm fly fishing. Would you like to see?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And immediately it was like, yeah, I do want to see. Yeah, this would be a great video. Yeah, I'll watch this a whole video. Yeah. If you just explained for an hour and a half how to flyfish, I'll watch this. Yeah.

Just pop his in and flyfish in Tiger Carlson. I'm like, yeah, that sounds incredible. Yeah. Get boned up with him. Fly fishing in Central Park, though, has got to be, that's like all eyes on you you don't want that

it's a lot of pressure he was in the tuck though he was like he wasn't really bothering anybody he wasn't really like that ostentatious about it but if you like hook onto a tree or some shit

everyone's people are tourists are walking by getting pictures of you fucking head Chinese ladies be fucking visor or something flies off her head yeah you don't want to deal with that

that seems like a lot no I got a jersey though it's like an hour drive it's not bad at all and explain the passion behind fly fishing because my brother-in-law is obsessed. And I'm going with him to

Montana in a couple months to fly fish. Where are you guys fishing? No idea. Madison River. Is that a thing? The Madison River is like the... It's in Montana. It's supposed to be like the best. You're saying cities, he's saying rivers. Yeah, I'm not on trout route, right? I haven't gotten to trout route yet.

It's supposed to be like the best fly fishing in the world. Like, I don't even have space to make... I don't have the stuff. This table right here is a good... This is a good tie-in table. You think I could fucking... Yeah, you'd be... You'd have some success with us. Fly it up on here? But I don't know.

I was never into fly. I've only been fly fishing for like two years now, but like recently is when I got really into it. What is nice about it? It's fun. I mean, it's just a different, I think, like I grew up close to the water. So I like would go like out on friends boats and stuff and go bass fishing, which is fun as fuck.

But then like there's a like it's fun, but also like live bait fishing. I don't enjoy it all. Because that's literally just, you're just hawking a fish out and then just sitting there. Like you're not doing any work. brother is obsessed with this. He goes like to the intercoastal in Florida. Yeah. It's like live bait fish. I mean, I'm sure it's fun when you're catching like 600 pound tuna and shit. He's not even. There has to be something other, there has to be something else to it then you're just like hucking it and sitting there because there's some people who are good at it. No, that's literally what it is. You got to go get the bait.

But like the piece of the people who are good at it is just smacking. They're just lucky you're saying? I don't know. I'm sure there's a skill to it, but I think it's definitely easier than normal fishing. understanding everything around it. Like the act of fishing is very little, in my experience, the casting and sitting. It's mostly like, okay, what bait do we need to catch the right fish? Yeah, yeah. What time do we need to be? Where's the wind blowing in order to position ourselves around this little mangrove tree to, like, be in the right spot?

All these people are upriver, but actually the real spot where they're going to be, the little honeyholes over here. Like, that's fishing. Yeah, that's what fly-fishing, because it's like with trout, you got to know where they hide. Yeah. Because trout are super, like, skittish. So you gotta like find like oh this this looks like behind this rock there would be a trout and then You throw your flying like street skating exactly like where's a spot I can be exactly just to get my rocks on Which is why it doesn't make sense to you

Yeah, exactly You would drop in on the trout I just want energy I want like the thing that was fun we did like deep sea and that was cool Yeah, but even that I was so inept like I just had nothing to offer like we went in Costa Rica and these like Costa Rican dudes like missing a tooth here like four foot eight. Did you do like a charter? Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And so we just went and they were so good.

And like, just rigging up this thing, ripping this thing, putting the bait on this thing, throwing it on the outriggers, they're going off, and then you just reel. Yeah. You're just like trolling and then, like, fighting. So they set it up for you and you reel it? Yeah, yeah, which even that is like...

Trailing wheels. Yeah, you know what I mean? It's like I still haven't even fish. Because like the casting and sitting, you're just trapping fish. Like, you're just tricking a fish. That's like not, fishing.

Dude, I did a- doing everything else. Yeah, I did a charter when I was really young on Cape Cod with like my dad and my grandfather and my uncle and it was like,

we caught like 70 fish that day but it was like if we went out there on the same boat with the same equipment we would have caught zero fish. Yeah, exactly.

We had no idea, but it's just these guys like know exactly what they're doing. Mm-hmm. But, uh... Yeah, it's like the, the wherewithal,

I don't know, I'm like trying to think like a sports analogy. Like, why is like, I don't know, like basketball cool, you're just doing this. but it's like well it's the whole other part of it

that makes it fun like that this part is yeah one little piece like golf in some ways it's just like oh yeah you're just hitting a ball in a direction yeah exactly yeah that's what I've seen but fly fishing seems like specifically meditative you get to like go out yeah it's fun I mean I like all types of fishing I just like that's what I'm into right now

just do this in every city just everywhere you go I try I did it I did Portland Oregon was fun as hell and what a great day wake up go fish yeah that was like the ideal weekend yeah it's like Perth Yeah. Or you're not like in the green room like fucking rotting. Yeah, I guess I'll get the buffalo bites. That sounds good. Are you bringing your own trout to the green room?

Be like, can you guys cookies? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, actually need to whip this up real way. Temporas, specifically. Temporas, specifically. I need to be. Deep fry the fuck out of this. It needs to be battered, okay. I don't these are fresh, but I don't want to taste them at all. But I feel like you just want to be outdoors, like hiking.

Like, yeah. Golf is even just an excuse to be outside. Yeah, definitely. Like in a lot of ways. Yeah, I'm trying to just stay busier on the road because dude, there's so many weekends where I've just gone out just fucking blacked out, woke up at like 2 p.n the next day. Bang a hooker and just kept it moving, yeah?

No, dude, it's just a terrible, especially, I can't even imagine with like the arenas you guys are doing just like rolling out of bed and then all of a sudden you're in front of fucking 10,000 people. Yeah, that's where for me it's like, I want to work out. I'd have to be like meditating before. That sounds, yeah, that would be crazy. Yeah, I had like a little spell.

Like it was weird. Like, we were doing a cut, like, when the shows first started a big, like, a year or two ago, like, literally, I was, like, meditating. Yeah. Yeah. Like, just trying to, like, channel the anxiety. It's a wild feeling. It's, like, bizarre. Are you using an app or just doing it yourself?

I was using Headspace. Yeah. Is that, what's the, headspace? Headspace and calm or the two. The one that is the dude, author, scientist, Sam Harris. Sam Harris. Sounds like him. Is that the name?

It's like a neurologist guy? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think it's headspace. Yeah, yeah. So I was using his for a while. And then I would just, you literally just do like guided meditations on YouTube. Yeah, I do. I literally did that in Pittsburgh last weekend.

Really? I had to crush your meditation. How long? 10 minutes. And you just tune out and just like listen? Guided meditation, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I really like it on the way here.

Dude, they're awesome. Yeah, they're nice. I'm like a fan, genuinely. Yeah. I had this weird thing. Have you ever done MDMA? Mm-mm. It's a wild time.

Mm-hmm. Don't do it until you're 25. Okay. Is it MDMA? Yeah, I call it MDMA. That sounds like, it sounds like a prescription. Yeah. Yeah.

As I was prescribed. Dude, I did it. And then, like, oh, maybe I did too much. I don't know. I had a great time when I was on it. But then, like, the next, like, two weeks, I felt so weird. Yeah. I felt, like, out of my body.

Like, I was on stage performing, looking at myself from, like, the back of my head. Like, so out of the present, it was just, like, the worst thing ever. I felt so, like, just, like, anxious, couldn't ever control it. Well, drains your serotonin, right? Yeah, exactly. It's, like, not good for you, obviously. But the only thing. The only thing that helped was meditating.

Yeah. It was like, if I meditated for like 10 minutes, I could get like three hours of feeling normal. Yeah. And then it would just be like kind of regress. And it was like, I was like, is this my life forever? Am I just, just ruined myself? And then after like a weird two, it went away.

But it was sketchy. But meditating is the only thing that fixed it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it helps a bunch. How long have you been doing it for? Meditating? Yeah.

Probably like, I don't, I don't do it super often, but maybe like, like, seven or eight years or something like that. That's a decent amount of time. But I don't do it. I'm not like doing it regularly. It's like, okay, I need to clear this shit up. But when I do it, my brain literally, it tickles.

I swear to God, it feels like so good at like the top of my brain. Dude, have you ever done Wim Hof? No. That meditation? I did a box breathing thing. Yeah. It was like similar or it was like, and you just like hold your breath for a long time. Yeah, that's Wimhoff.

That's what it is. Yeah. That makes you make yourself hyperventilate and then you hold your breath in. And then you can hold it for like two minutes straight. Yeah. That shit is like what I. I imagine, like, heroin feels like. It's crazy.

You do get a high from that for sure. That's, like, the most insane. I don't even like doing it because it's like the hyperventilating. No, the hyperventilated part is like too intense. I'm gonna see you homeless in three weeks. I'm like, sass what happened. I'm like, bro, it's fucking Wimov. I'm actually about to hit one right now.

Dude, that shit's like, that's, it's too much, too intense for me. Yeah. The hyperventilating part is like when you're like, you're twitching and like your hands and face are tingling. You do feel the tingle in your hands. Yeah. And you, like, hold your breath. And it's like your, you can, like, feel it, like, melting away.

Yeah. It's like, whoa. Yeah, you don't want to pass out for no attention. You know what I mean? If no one sees you, it's like, what's the point of you to pass out? Yeah, I didn't even get out of the play. I didn't even get out of car practice. No one took care of me.

Yeah. What is this? What the hell? Passing out alone? Or just, like, laying on the floor passing out, where it's like, you don't even fall over. Yeah. Like, no one will even believe you.

You're just stealing valor of having passed out. Yeah. I don't know. I just, like, ever since that experience, I just kind of swore off any type of drug. And just, I'm just trying to be sober as possible. Yeah. Meditate, that type of shit. Even weed.

Like, I don't even know how you smoked weed for that long. It was a lot of weed. I just did it every day all the time. I just check out, literally wake up at the morning, like, sit on the toilet, like, spark up a joint. Yeah, your brain is just built for it. Some people's brains and then you're, like, disposed. Dude, I've tried so hard to get into weed. And it's like every, I literally, I smoked a joint.

I spoke. So I've like been trying to like micro dose it just to see if I can get to a point where I'm like this is enjoyable. Like two days ago, I've had the same joint for like a year now. And two days ago, I took one hit of a joint and I like didn't feel any. I was like, oh, whatever. I was like I don't, I'm like a little buzz, but that's it. And then like 10 minutes later I'm just laying in bed and my whole body is just pulsating. Yeah.

Just do you got to remember how to breathe. Yeah. Every breath is like water. Yeah. I'm alive. Here we go again. This happens to me every time. That's what I'm craving when I go back to it.

Yeah, yeah, just a... It was like, it wasn't doing shit to me. Like, I was just be like, yeah, I just smoked a bunch and like I don't feel... But I wouldn't smoke that much. Like, I would smoke a joint a day, but I would smoke it over increments like five times... They'd be like toothpicks. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's like a little darts where.

Yeah. I mean, that was when I was trying to smoke the joint all at once. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Either way, I'm happy to be nice. But I would, I mean, I would go back to any, like, any drug, like, other than, like, heroin, but, like, Molly, ecstasy. Have you tried it, though? You said, you, I like, I like them. Oh, you've done Molly.

Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. How was that? It was crazy. It was fun. I did. Did you feel bad, though?

The day after, I felt terrible. Yeah. But then I recently, I did, like, some, like, a beautiful, clean ecstasy. It was fucking, it didn't feel, I wasn't hungover at all. Wait, how long was this? A couple months ago. Okay, crazy. And it was fucking, it just went to, like, a Fred again concert and, like, light rain.

It was, like, one of the best times that I've had in my entire life. It was just, like, very... It was, like, just, like, spritzing rain so you could have, like, the outdoor experience. And, like, by the time the concert was over, like, I wasn't high anymore. It was, like, what it's supposed to be, I feel like. Yeah. Not this, like, you're down, like, tremendous the next day or, like, three weeks. Yeah, having to meditate out of it.

I'm going to climb out of the depths of it. I feel like that's like, defeats the purpose of doing drug, doing any drug. Yeah, doing a drug and then having a week-long hangover after sounds. What am I doing? I don't have time for this. Yeah. What scenario did you do the MDMA? This was at a concert in Montauk, like way out east.

And it was like a EDM show. And I was like, this will be great. This will be fun. This is like the third time I've done. I was like, this is going to be no problem. And then the whole night was awesome. I had a great time. And then the next morning I actually felt fine

And then it was like three or four days later I was just like Zooted And I just like I swore it off I was like I'm good I think tiny amounts of all drugs are the way Very tiny amounts At the same time

No No just any drug Like never just like A lot of drugs is never good Are you experiment with a lot of drugs? Yeah Yeah I mean

Yeah It's such an interesting like Collection of personality traits Not heroin Like, like, studied theater, battle rapping. Oh, yeah. Like, very calm affect, but then also, like, likes raves and shit. Yeah.

This is an awesome combination of things. No, that's nice of you to say. But I feel like, or just a lot of my friends would try drugs. And some of them, I mean, went too far. But I feel like a lot of it's worth trying. What's your worst drug memory? Like Molly, doing Molly and then waking up the next day with the worst hangover ever. Yeah.

He gets hungover, too. It's hilarious. I look like a piece of shit. He'll have like four beers and then we'll like wake up at like a hotel the next day and he'll come downstairs and they're like, you see him from like across the hotel. You smell me from across the hotel. You're like, walking, you're like, what? It's definitely not four beers.

He is hungover. But it's when you mix it all up. Yeah. Oh, that's crazy. Mix it all up with the bad stuff. But some days I just get, don't get any. I don't know. It's very touching.

It must be something else like whether I'm hydrated or what I've eaten. Yeah. That plays into it. I'm mixing alcohols. That was like half the reason that I'd stop drinking for now was just, dude, the hangovers. No, the hangovers are just like, unreal. When you drink, though, you would drink, you'd like get after it. Oh, dude.

You were never like two beers and let's go out. Dude, I could drink like 20 beers in a night so easily. Yeah, doesn't it scare you when they tell you, like, how much you're supposed to drink in a week? Yeah. Like, you talk to your doctor and like, yeah, you should have like, you know, five to six beers a week. Yeah. You're like, what? Dude, we would do these case races on the yak and I would get, like, obliterated and, like, make a fool of myself.

and then but we would have like I would drink like eight beers nine beers on that and then I would go out after and no one else would go out we would just have drank like

eight beers in an hour and then everyone else would be like all right time to go home and like fucking sweat this out and then I would go out for like seven more hours after yeah in a blackout

yeah that's wild how many comics are living that lifestyle all the time not as many as you think so many comedians are sober The ones that have longevity don't. Like there's a lot of comics. Like, if you count, like, all the comics that exist in the world, like, yeah, there's probably a lot that are, like, drinking, like, heavily and doing stand-up and, like, just fucking getting hung over.

But to, like, really make a career and do it for a long time, like, I don't think so. Yeah. None of the comics I really know. Because, like, folks who do that, I feel like want to socialize. Like, they want the comedy to be the social aspect of their life. And so they're like, I'm going to do comedy and I'm going to get fucked up. And I'm going to hang out with the, like, guys and have a nice hang at the table or whatever. Yeah, that's pretty much what I was doing every single night.

It was like I would go out, do the set, and then just, like, get hammered and, like, hang out. I never drink before I go on stage, though. Oh, dude, I would drink a lot. I don't, I got, but I got better at it where I was like, like, the last year I've been, like, pretty much not drinking before going up. And then, because when I first started doing stand-up, I would get hammered before going up. Just like nerves? Just like, yo, I just kind of get out of it. And I would get so drunk.

And then I would be like, damn, I just fucking killed. And then I would get, and I would be like texting the manager, be like, yo, let me get those tapes. And then I'd get the tape like three days later. And I would be like eating a dick on stage and like laughing to myself. Being like, man, this is going really well. That's wild. Dude, I would be like, there would be like 30 second pauses like between words.

And I'd just be standing there like. Which is kind of, I mean, like, as long as you're satisfied. Yeah, I guess. That's all that matters. Like you didn't need the external validation. You know, like the whole room laughing, like, dude, I'm having a fucking blast. You might have reached like Nirvana. Like that might have been what it was.

It might have been truly there. Yeah. It was crazy, dude. You're seeking strangers validation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's, yeah.

That's, yeah. Yeah. That's, yeah. That's soft. Yeah. But for a career move, it was definitely good to stop doing that. Yeah, that's probably, that's probably smart. I don't know.

There's part of me that's like, I'd think about this, like, party sometimes. Like, the alcohol will make you think that, like, you know, that party was so much than it actually was. Dude, that was the thing with me, though, was that I was drinking, and then I'd wake up in the morning, I'd be like, dude, I wasn't even, that wasn't even fun. I wasn't even having fun last night. I was just drinking for no reason. Yeah. Yeah. Because you keep on drinking, thinking, oh, this will get funer. Yeah. If I have one more drink. Yeah. Like, this is going to be the alchemy. Yeah. And then you just get tired and more drunk. You're like, fuck. And you make up at noon the next day and you're like, was I hanging out with three dudes that I've spoken to like four times ever until 7 a.m. last night? Hitting soliloquies to them. Yeah, yeah.

About the state of. stand-up comedy. Honestly, I just fucking love you guys. You know what I mean? Like, tonight, like, solidified things for me, bro. Sass is, when you got really drunk, you would just talk about, like, this state of stand-up. Not even that. I would be, like, talking to people who don't know anything about stand-up and don't care about stand-up. And I'd be like, yeah, dude, the problem with that room is the ceilings are just way too high. So it's like all the laughter just disappear. And they're like, dude, no one cares.

So what was the rest of your day on the road? so you wake up in the morning and what are you doing the rest of the time? I just work at my soliloquies for the night. Whose ear am I going to bend to me? Yeah, exactly.

I'm just gonna chew someone's ear off. No, it's literally just like work out and go eat and then these big venues we have to be in there are like four or five. Damn, really? Yeah, so like we'll just get there

dumb early, do sound check doors are at like six and then show will be like seven and then if it's double-headed then it's like seven and nine-thirty so it's like the whole day. I guess the big venues though I was that the green room situation

is probably a little different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys have like a pool table and shit. So these rings are sick. They got like the little shuffleboard with the sand on it. And so like, yeah, I'll just rather do this than do stand up.

Like let me just fucking play shuffleboard for like a house. What's the best one? Is there one really good green room that you've been to? Dude, the one Chicago was sick. Yeah. I don't even know what this venue was. It was like this big like theater.

They just had this like sick. They had snacks. They were replenishing them. Was it the Chicago theater? No, it was at Fenway Village or something. So like next to Fenway, they have this like venue. In Boston?

Oh, no. Riggily maybe? No, I think, I know it was Boston actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was Boston? No, right next to Fenway is the... No, yeah, you're right, I got them mixed up. There's a Fenway village, and they have a theater in the village. It's like...

Yeah, it's like... That's right. Is it an arena? No, it's just like a big... It's where the Barstool Awards were. The House of Blues? No, I don't think it would have been that. I don't think so.

I mean, maybe they rebranded it. That's not. House of Blouses. We were just there. That's like a, but that's like a music hall. But that's right across from Fenway. Yeah, it's next to Fenway. Maybe. Yeah, I guess it's not a theater. There would be a, they'd have to like put in fucking folding chairs. I'm sure they didn't do that. What didn't have a sick green room? It's not the one I'm talking about. No, this place, that's why I'm thinking of it because it does have a sick. Oh, yeah. That I think about it. The green room is like a fucking hotel lobby. It's fucking incredible. It's like a beautiful green room. It makes things so much nicer. You're like, oh wait, this is sick.

Dude, when I did Zanis Nashville. Oh, yeah. That green room, I was like, I felt like I was a kid. I was like this is I'm like this is I oh well upstairs thing yeah yeah that makes you feel awesome yeah there's another one oh what is it oh okay C Bricktown Comedy Club

oh really they have like really my this I'm food motivated yeah they just have candy any place that has candy that's restocked I'm like what kind of candy are you chocolate or uh

sweet this is my probably one of the most pretentious things about me is like I'm very specific with chocolate oh you like the fucking Belgian yeah dark not even

Like, my, this is a weird, I think my brain got warped as a child because my dad used to, like, work in Europe a lot, so he would come home and he would, like, bring us, like, European chocolate. And Ferreira Rochay, lint? Lint is more of the vibe. But, like, I think it, like, warped my brain into understanding, like, fatherly love with chocolate. And now I've, like, kind of molded them together in my mind. So, literally, I'm like, I won't even touch our Hershey's. I was going to say, like, a Hershey's bar wouldn't do it for you. I, like, what is, it's wax?

What about, like, a Heath bar? Heath's sucks, though. It's, like, those bars are so good. It's fine. Like, if I was. Don't even wrong, if I was, like, gonna die. Yeah. If I was stuck in an elevator with you for like seven hours,

like yeah, I would probably have half your Heathbar. Half of yours, yeah, I'm not gonna take the whole Heathbar. I'm not gonna take the whole heath bar. And you die. I'm also not gonna bring my own heat bar in this elevator we're stuck in. But I would just house like just any Belgian chocolate. Yeah. I would just like fucking crush the whole thing.

Damn, I'm the opposite, dude. I'm, I'm the fucking, yeah, creating the lab. What, yeah, what is that? Like goo. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you want slime. You want sour slime. I eat shit that is oozing.

Do you like sour candy? Yeah. I like all candy. This is a bizarre thing I've never understood. I have a buddy over here that just like every time I see him is like, dude, warhead just came out with the new super wheel. Oh no, that shit's insane. I don't fuck with that at all.

And he'll just casually like suck up. My mouth is watering from the thought of a warhead. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, just casually suck on a warhead. Dude, that's like just drinking hot sauce. That's like just being like, oh, I just got this new Tabasco. Time to just sip on this. Which one of the biggest mistakes.

have ever made in my life. My wife and I got COVID directly after our wedding. No. It was like, we got COVID. With 100 of our closest friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, me and 100 of our friends got COVID. No, this was like 2022. I don't know. This was like a year ago. We both get COVID. We can't taste, can't smell. None of that shit. Yeah. So my wife's like, oh, you know, it'd be so fun.

Let's go get like a bunch of like spicy sour stuff and see if we can taste it. I was like, oh, sure you taste it in your ass. Bro. This is how stupid I am. I didn't even think about it. Yeah. Because I was like, okay, literally we got like, like, like, Wasabi, just like raw wasabi. Yeah. And we got like warheads. We got like those Piquito like super chips that are like super spicy or whatever.

We got like a charcutory board of just like stomach churning like nonsense. Just nuclear waste basically just on a table. And we both sat down together and we ate by bites of the whole thing. And I forgot that like my mouth has COVID but like my ass is completely immune from COVID. Your ass also literally has taste buds on it. Yeah. They're a literal taste like the second highest concentration of taste buds are on your asshole. Is that true?

Yeah, 100%. At all times? Yeah, they're there right now. And that's why like, uh, like, the dude wipes. Yes, absolutely. The dude wipes are like mint-flavored ass wipes. There's no way. It's why would it be called, why would it be mint?

How would you even know that it was mint? And you know. Because you read it and you're like, you know. When you wipe your ass, you know. You feel a nice breeze down there. I'm testing this. You should. I mean, I have the mint dude wipes at home.

I fuck. I look at the labeling every day. I'm like, it's crazy that these are flavored. These are flavored ass wipes. You really think, though? Like, I assume it's just like a fragrance. Like, oh, it's nicer to have, like, scented things. It's nicer I have a mint ass than plain ass. Am I crazy?

I mean, I sound like the crazy one that it's like that you have taste buds on your asshole. So you can taste mint? On your ass. You need to do the charcutory board, but like suppositories. Just boof it? Yeah, just to be shoving for us. up your ass. Just to see if it works. Do you like spicy food? What's the spiciest thing you've ever had?

Ever in my life? Yeah. Fuck, dude. Honestly, like, there's been a couple meals. My wife loves spicy food. So she, like, her grandma is, like, full Costa Rican. So she would make, like, kind of like Latin food. And so she would just, like, douse shit. And there'd be a couple times, like, we'd have meals and she's like, I can't eat this.

Yeah, yeah. It's just like, it wasn't even a singular thing. It's just, like, in general, this is the hottest thing. I'm sweating. It's just over. Like Thai spicy? What is the point of this? I don't know.

Dude, I was, when I first moved to New York, I lived with two, like, random dudes. And I was cooking dinner, and one of them was, like, they gave me an extra. He, like, ordered, like, some Thai thing. He gave me an extra sauce. You can use it if you want. And I was, like, oh, awesome. I just made, like, chicken and rice. And I, like, put it all, like, mix it all together.

And then I dumped the whole thing on it. And it was, like, the hottest thing I've ever eaten. Dude, it was insane. Yes. Did you finish it? No. I had to throw the whole dish away. Did you really?

Yeah. It was like, it turned into fucking poison. But like, are some people just immune to it? Like, is there like a biological advantage? Yeah.

If you grow up eating it, like you haven't. Yeah, it has to be. But I think it comes in waves. I think that there's been a times in my life where I was like, I wouldn't touch something spicy.

And now I'm like, oh, I'm fucking good. That's the thing is I, but I like, I like, I like a spicy food, but like, like I love like a hot wing,

like a really spicy wing. Yeah. But then there's other times where I'm like, dude, this is just not, I'm just hurting myself. Did you come to Nashville when we did the Nashville hot chicken? Yeah, because you told me.

Oh, that's pretty spicy. Yeah. Yeah, there's like, there's one called like, Patty Bees. And they have like an 800 degrees sandwich. And it's like just double test. It's so fucking painful. And it's equally, if not more painful,

like on the second end coming out your ass. Yeah, it's crazy. It's just ribbons of hot, like, of heat coming out of your ass. That feeling of like eating something too spicy, like in due. his panic on me. Like you saw, like, you saw when I had to eat the raw habanero on the yak? Yeah.

And I was freaking, like, dude, it's just like, I don't know what to do. Like, it's so overwhelmingly hot, and there's just nothing you can do. Because it's biological. Like, their body is like, what has happened. Well, yeah. I need to cool us down. These things are hot for a reason. Yeah.

Like, literally the biol, like, the reason. It's the defense mechanism. Yeah. Like, so animals and shit don't eat. Yeah. And we're all here being, like, I'm fucking pump it up. Like, it's crazy. Like, I don't know.

Like, if I went on hot ones, I could get like four in. Yeah, but then I also wonder, I feel like there's gotta be, because dude, everyone completes it. So it's like, there's obviously like a mental thing where it's like you're on it and you're like, I gotta do it. I can't be the one dude who's like bailing out after three. Sidney Sweeney can do it. Yeah. Did she go all the way though? I don't even know. Just why the memes?

Yeah, I came like two minutes in. I didn't. That was it for me. This is good. That, apparently on hot ones, I used to watch a show all the time. Apparently the one, the actual hot ones, the last dab isn't even like close to the hot. hottest. Apparently the one, the Da Bomb, I think is what it's called.

It's the one that looks like a grenade. I don't know if you ever watch the show. I'm familiar, I'm not like a diehard. I feel like you're exonerate. The one that looks like a grenade. It's called Da Bomb. You can buy it at like grocery stores in New York. Apparently that one is like, that one they say is a sauce that doesn't even taste good. It's like clearly just like a concoction of chemicals to like fuck you up.

Yeah. This is dumb. It is just chemical like capsaicin or whatever it is. Like there's like, it's like a chemical compound that people are, there's nothing. So you can just jack it up as much as you want. I think you could. Like I think Scovils is just like arbitrary like. Oh dude, yeah.

Because actually I forgot that I did the fucking that gummy bear a while ago. That was like eight million. Oh my God. Yeah. What is it? It's a spicy gummy bear. It's a spicy gummy bear and it's like eight million. Scovilles.

Scovils. And that one was like people. It was like right when I started bar stool they did that. And it was like, I remember Tommy smokes. This dude that works at bar. Steele saying that he was laying down in the bathroom fully naked, sweating, throwing up. No. Because your body gets so hot.

And then your body also starts working to cool you down, but it's not cold out. So you're like sweating to try and like counteract it. It's also there's no, like, I remember I thought I like beat the system. I like took a couple bites and then just swallowed it because it's a gummy bear. And then dude, like the shit that was happening inside of my stomach was like, they should run labs almost. Like, there was like, at points where, like, full,

you could just feel full intestines just, like, shift to the side. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because imagine that work, the acid that has to be, you're throwing out to counteract that to be like, no, we have to break this down before we put this out.

Yeah, it's sketchy. Like, not the exact same thing, but, like, it's like, it reminds me of it. I got icy hot on my balls. Ooh. And I was like, oh, there's no way this could be that bad. Yeah.

And then unthinkable pain. Like, the only thing, thing that compares to it is like I had to eat a bunch of habaneros. Yeah. And like, just like that feeling of like helplessness. Yeah, like, I'm just going to be in pain for a while. Yeah. There's nothing I can do. Yeah. And this thing is like... Poor milk on your balls. Yeah, poor milk in your balls. I don't know with like the narcan

for icy hot and so I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Just get stabbed in the chest. Right? Like, I don't know. I literally just sat there. I was just like this is the most painful thing. I can't even imagine that. It sucks. Because that's like I've used like fucking like scented like like like mint scented like shampoo or some shit and got on my balls and it's like it's like it hurts it feels so weird dr braunners yeah yeah yeah yeah i can't imagine the icy hot dude yeah it's as bad as they

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when like the last five years I haven't put anything out but I record all the time like I was recording like two weeks ago Oh really? Just for the love of the game But you gotta put out your art right Yeah

That's what Rick Rubin was said Yeah Gotta live a creative act dude Yeah You gotta release things And I know I gotta start releasing But I mean I'll release other shit But I gotta start putting out the music I guess

Yeah It's a different type of judgment Are you gonna have a SaaS feature or what? We did it We did a track together one time with Benny the butcher. Did you really? Yeah.

Is it out? Yeah. It's terrible. I mean, my part's to everyone else is good. Mine's awful. I was rapping like Jerry signed. It's just kind of hard, dude. Dude, it was so, this was like one of the more...

Listen to him! Yeah, it's like one of the more embarrassing things. We like, we went to this... We were in Buffalo because these guys, part of my take, PMT, they do like this thing called Grit Week where they just like travel around like a bus all week and they like, dude, different videos and interviewed different people and they usually do like a song and rones always had a part in it and like that year they invited me to do it too and we like went to buffalo and because

that's where benny the butcher lives and uh and we went to this like studio like a real like music studio it's like there's like dudes like smoking blunts in the back and like girls that you like can't film girls that you can't talk about being there because they're like these are our 1 a.m. girls like shit like that and then and everyone's like like roan does his verse like bany the butcher does his verse like everyone's doing and then like all right you're up and i'm like all right and i like go over and i have like the headphones on and like no one's like really saying no one's really like saying anything to me and i like have the lyrics up on my phone and i'm like the the beats just going so i just like start doing the beat like like like getting into it like wrapping it confidently

yeah and then like and then like are we good and just no one replies and i'm like are we good and just no one and just like none of it was recording and they like weren't ready at all. So I was just in there just like passionately like wrapping this like shitty verse to myself. It was so embarrassing. I mean, I wrote the verse. I don't know if it was that shitty. It was a good verse. No, I'm not saying that.

But it was, but it was good that we went in a second time because we got the Seinfeld out of your voice a little bit. We ironed out the Seinfeld. So if you listen to it, it's actually less Seinfeldie than it originally was. Yeah, you heard the unsigned one. Yeah. The original one was insane. It's just full signfield. I was like,

going up in octave. Like, I don't even know. It was like, the lyrics were like, Bank of New York. Bank of New York just made the ball. That's what I was doing, yeah. I don't know what I was thinking. It is tough. You'd think it's not that hard.

You're like, come on. And rapping, like, on beat, too, like, with the beat. It was like, dude, I just wanted to get up there and just, like, get all of the words out as fast as I could with no rhythm. Yeah, you want to just be sort of like a diatribe. Yeah. You just kind of like get it off. Yeah.

Just monologue it. Yeah. And then you put the beat in later. Because when you're rapping along with somebody else's song, it feels easy. It's super easy. Like, you ever do karaoke without a backtrack? No. Like, I love karaoke.

Yeah, me too. Do you really? He's great at karaoke. I love it. But like with the backtrack or without? What do you mean backtrack? Like the vocals behind? Oh no, I like it without the vocals.

So you just want to rip it. Yeah, I want to do the song. That's harder, I think, because it doesn't give you a baseline if you don't have the backtrack. Yeah, exactly. Like, if it's just the instrumental in the words, you got to like, You think that you're a way better singer than you actually are. You define the timing, the pace, the pitch. Dude, this shit is hard, bro.

I don't even know if I'll ever do karaoke. Now that I'm not drinking, I don't know if I'll ever do karaoke again, to be honest. I'm not doing sober karaoke. At that point, that's just like a passion of mine. That's the difference between us. That's the difference between us. Hey, what is it doing Houston this weekend. You know exactly what they're sober karaoke.

Yeah, 3 p.m. Criotel. Daylight karaoke is an insane move. Dude, New York City is a tough city to find good character. That's the one thing. New York City, not a lot of good karaoke spots. That can't be true either. Dude, a lot of karaoke in New York, you show up and it's like, they're like, we got a room for you. It's like, what that's like Japanese style? I'm not going to go do karaoke with my one friend.

I'm just going to sing to one of my boys for an hour. The guy, I'm doing Rocket Man next. Yeah, that's an insane. You sit there and watch me sing while I stare at you. It's crazy. If you get a group of people together, it is fun, though. Yeah, but I like doing it like in public with like a bunch of. of strangers watching.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude, there's a spot in Orlando. That's just like a dingy dive with like the oldest karaoke DJ ever. Yeah. You got to like grease him. Yeah, yeah. Like there's always a huge line, like 30 people deep. Yeah. And you're like, okay, by the time my name's called, I'll be in a blackout.

Yeah. And you're going to have the best time ever. And then, like, if you really want to get your name in there, you got to, you got to, you know, line them up. But there's a spot actually over here in Williamsburg. Really? It's a Chino Grande. Chino Grande.

And it's a karaoke spot, but also a restaurant. Yeah. So imagine you're just sitting at a booth and there's 10 other booths. And then there's just a random patron in the middle of the restaurant. That's awesome. Scream singing to just like the zombies. Dude, I've been some, there's a place in Nashville. It's actually across the street from Patty Bees.

And it's just a regular restaurant, like one of those Nashville two floor. Me and my buddies were there. It was like right before I was going to Zanis and we were like having a couple drinks like hanging out, eating dinner. And then out of nowhere just some dude, some white dude goes up and just starts like, aggressively rapping into the microphone for like five minutes straight, just doing karaoke. Bro, that was jelly roll, brother. He didn't get jelly roll alone. Hey, come back off of jelly, dude.

He was just feeling himself. Yeah, let jelly eat. What's your go-to karaoke song? It's so many. It really depends on the mood. I scope out the energy of the crowd. I go, what do these people need right now? Yeah.

What is going to be... What's something that's hit recently? What has, like, uh... Honestly, Disney always works, and I'm not afraid to say that. That's a fact. It depends on the demo. A whole new world type of. You hit a whole new world.

grab a girl out of like the bar be like, yo, hit the show with me. You're going to be Aladdin, I'll be Jasmine. And then you just let it run. People love that. Tennessee whiskey. I've done a couple times. But then, uh, yours is war.

That little run, dude, that's impossible. Are you hitting that run? That's light, dude. Really? Hit the run then. Hit the run right now. I want to hear the run. I want to do it like that, bro.

Come on. Honestly, I heard jelly roll sing that at a, like I had a honky tonking on Broadway in Nashville. They're like, Jen, coming on the stage, Jelly Roll. And he fucked. and just went up and ripped it. He was just like doing whatever with us all right. Yeah, he's the man.

Yeah, he's sick. Yeah, and I know he came on here too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He didn't sing, though. Yeah. He didn't bless me with any vocals. He didn't lay any bars down the game. He probably would have, dude.

Honestly, he's such a nice guy that he, like, would have done nice. Yeah, he's an angel. He did IV. He did an IV. It was like sitting right here. Yeah, we drank a little bit last night. You mind if I do an IV? A little bit, dude.

He probably had a trough. Yeah. No, that boy, that boy could drink. That boy could do it all. Wow, what's your go-to-caro song? What's a banger? He's always doing like Justin Bieber. Oh, really? You go, Bieber?

Well, we do our, like, we have like a band, like a pop-punk band. And so, like, we, like, hit, like, pop-punk songs, but we love yourself always, like, tears it down with, like, the pop-punk audience when we, like, do it, play fast and shit like that. Love yourself? Justin Bieber. Wow. J. Bibero. That's an interesting move. See, yeah, if you've got a pop punk band, I would just do panic.

I would just do panic in the disco. That's hard to sing, though. My favorite band ever I've seen Panic the Disco Live three times I'm genuinely a huge fan of Panic the Disco Really? Not gonna lie I thought you were gonna say like 40 times

There's probably people who were like Barely fans of Panic of Disco Three times It's kind of small enough But it's a large amount for me To be a large amount for me To be at a thing that I'm embarrassed by

Yeah yeah Fringe associated way Yeah yeah yeah it probably should be more They don't swore that much I was eight when their first Yeah, yeah. Give me a break. Yeah, definitely.

But no, three times it's been me and just only like 14-year-old girls. Yeah. And I've enjoyed myself. What's their biggest song? I write since no tragedies. D-tun-dun-tun-tun. Yeah. That one's a banger.

Yeah, you just sing like a ghost, unfortunately. Yeah, that one's actually, that's a good song. It's an amazing song. My sister was super in to panic at the disco. I chime in. How did you people ever heard of? That is good pop-punk voice. That like, I.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like you have to be like quasi-British. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All they're good Mormon boys, but all those guys are Mormon. Fun fact. Pretty sure. Yeah, that accent, I read an article on that accent one time. It's like California guys, like pretending to do a British affect. Really? It's like a combination of these two dialects.

Like Green Day type shit. Yeah, exactly. Was that Green Day that was that, like they were performing on like the subway? Yeah, yeah. But Jimmy Fallon. Yeah. Why was Jimmy Fallon there? It was probably four Jimmy Fallon.

Yeah, I think he coordinated it. But then the Green Day guys did something sick. Like they weren't supposed to. announced it and then they were like hey we're gonna be the subway tomorrow come by because he because they were like I just want our friends to be there like our fans I don't I don't care for yeah because like the subway crowd yeah yeah I want our people they're trying to buy Eminems from a Honduran yeah that is crazy though if you pull up and Billy Joel Armstrong is just like ripping that would be so sick it'd be the sickest how do they manage that song that that's like we've played that song like at like colleges

or whatever and then there's like the one lyric where they're like well maybe I'm the get American. And like college kids don't know that. That's a term and they're like, yeah. What the fuck are you talking about? That is a good point. I wonder if they replace it.

They must. Yeah, there's no way. Maybe I'm your fucking American. Yeah, they must. That's probably pretty easy. I see a really easier replacement actually. I'd choose not to. You see it the way it's supposed to be seen.

Because the artist in 10. Eminem had to do that with my name is. There's a couple M&M songs where he like has shit bleeped out. that I don't know what, because it's like it's still the explicit version, but like the actual version of the song, there's stuff that's bleeped out. I'm like, what was he saying that? He's like, beat the fuck out of a bitch.

Yeah. Yeah. What was it that they were like, this is not, this can't even go on iTunes. Yeah, no, there's like some, I mean, yeah, talking about like women. Yeah, yeah. Probably don't. I can imagine Steve Jobs like, yeah, we're good on that. Yeah, we're gonna. But the guy that did the original track

for, uh, my name is that Burner? Yeah. Bernard? he's like a gay jazz musician yeah and so m&M was like hey man I just wrapped over your song here the like can I clear it for the sample and he was like let me see the lyrics oh and you read the lyrics and literally the lyrics

are like like uh like oh what is the it's like a famous lyric but it's literally like lesbians and they're screaming let's just be friends and the guy was like no you can't equal opportunity yeah yeah like come on dude and the guy was like no you definitely cannot use it So I needed to change it to, like, chasing aliens or some shit.

Oh. Yeah. Like, if there's two versions of the song out, and if you, like, go to YouTube, you see the original, and you're like, yeah, I get it. Yeah. I agree with the guy. But then, uh, Elton John was doing everything with Eminem. Like, Elton John can't be gay than Elton John. No, so I'm saying.

He co-signed him. He saved him. He didn't co-signed DeBaby, that's for sure. Who? Elton John. Oh, yeah. He could have saved the day. He, like, spoke out about DeB&Maby.

He, like, released a statement. Did he really? Yeah, you never saw that? I don't think I did. When DeBaby went on stage and was like, yo, put your fucking hands up if you don't have AIDS. Yeah,

which is a fucking insane. We don't fuck with that shit over here. We never talked about how funny that was crazy, dude. He's like, I got something to say tonight. He's like,

I got the crowd in the palm of my head. I can finally start speaking my mind. These people will fucking eat up anything are going to love this, dude. Yeah, Elton John. I'm so dick. What?

Yeah. And Elton John felt like a, a 10 like a tweet statement just being like fucking a baby that's crazy if he was cosigned an Eminem

yeah well maybe Eminem have more artistic value to his lyrics than the baby or he had another thing going for him

oh what do you think that could be right yeah it could be playing here the baby's an awesome rapper I love the baby

oh yeah he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like iambic pentameter The way that he wraps is like... It's like Shakespearean.

Everything you got to do is something. People get soap. People always make the jokes. They're like, oh, DeBaby's using this. It's an exact same song. I'm like, dude, every time he puts out the song

that's the exact same song, I'm like download instantly. Yeah. Oh, it's the best song ever. It turns out is the perfect song. Yeah. And it doesn't have a name's like, what is it's like?

He's a total tagging. That's the way. That's how music should be, dude. Like, Led Zeppelin should have just put out stairway to heaven and different lyrics. Different stairways. Just going to different places. single songs.

Share way to hell. Yeah. Just run it up. Yeah. If it's working. But no, people want artistic development. You know what I mean? That shit sucks, dude.

Give me the hits, dude. Yeah. It sucks when you find a song from an artist that you love and you're like, oh, I hope they got more songs like this and then every other song is ass. Yeah. Yeah. Or just not what you're looking for. The best is when you see a song, you're like, this is the best song I've ever heard.

It's like the artist and it's like their third most popular song. Yeah. There's more? There's about to be a secret band. Yeah. Where they put out new music and you're like, Like, I didn't realize they had this in their bag. It's like a whole other thing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. If it's good, though. But sometimes they change that too much. Oh, sometimes it's not it. Who's your favorite rapper? Black Thought from the roots. Really? Yeah, he's sick.

That's an insane take that I just would not expect. We got into it about that a couple weeks ago. He was like, my dad has that same take. Yeah, he does. And you have like a resentment towards your dad. No, I don't have resentment towards my dad at all. But it was funny. My dad has rap takes?

My dad, that's the thing. That's what I was going to say was my dad tries to act like he knows rap music and then he'll be like, you got to check out Black Thought. Where did you, where did you look up like rappers that no one knows? I mean, he is fucking tick though. He is good. Black Thought is good. But it's like, why is your dad commenting on the state of rap hip-hop in 2024?

I have no idea. Did you prompt this conversation? I feel like you don't even have rap takes. No, I like rap. I like rap. I just don't see you being like me and my dad, you know, like he put me on. Like, we argue about rap all time. I have no idea.

I think my dad thinks that I like rap a lot. And so, like, he'll, like, pick me up from the train. When I go back to Massachusetts and he'll be, like, blaring black thought. You like this black thought? Yeah. And I'd be, like, listen to this one lyric. Is that what he thinks rap music is called? Yeah, black thoughts.

Yeah. I've been listening to a lot of black thoughts lately. You know, to baby's black thoughts. I've listened to Jay Coles. There's different kinds of black thoughts. Yeah, there's so many. They're awesome. I love all of them.

That's just wild to me. If my dad had a rap take, I'd be like, what the fuck is going on. I would just immediately be like, don't do this. Yeah. Don't do this. Who's your dad like to listen to? What's music that he's into?

Like Sinatra. Oh, really? Yeah. Or like, no, my dad loves electronic dance music. Really? My dad is obsessed with like Cascade. No. That's crazy.

He's seen him like 12 times. I know it's not 40. No, 12's a lot. That's enough for my father to be watching Cascade. Are you familiar with Cascade, the DJ? Yeah, I know of him, but what's his, what's his famous song? How's it go? Is he like, do-t-t-t-t-tik-tik-tit-tit-tip.

Tip. Tip. It's it. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know that one. But, like, he's just, my dad's obsessed with electronic dance music. Really? It's crazy.

It's bizarre. It's like, I would wake up in the morning, and I would just walk down the stairs, and this is 6 in the morning. I'm about to go to school, and he's blasting like Zed. Dude. Or like dead mouse. People who are like that blow my, people who can drive to work at 6 in the morning with EDM blasting, they have different brains.

That's your dad? Or that's you? That's me. Really? I got sucked in my head, dude. I genuinely, like, just grown up my whole life, I was just listening to dance music. All styles of EDM? Except for like, what if you're like sad?

You just have to look up like sad EM. 10 days, 10 days. They have sad ADM. They don't say it's just like, boonch, boom, yeah, it's just a little slower. Yeah, it's still the same vibe. Choth and screws. That's what chop and screw.

It's gonna make me cry. Dude, anything that's like not super aggressive. Like, I'm not gonna casually listen to like hardcore, like drum and bass or like wubbubb like dubstep. Yeah, that was what I had in mind. It's like if you were listening to that like in the first thing in the morning like Roe Roe Roehm

Dude I remember when like Dubstep was getting big And all my friends were like super into Dubstep And I didn't know Yeah I didn't know what dubbed I thought Dubstep So I went on my team

I just downloaded an album called Dubstep And I was like This guy sick There was like 800 songs I love him I've seen him three times And I was like this one is so good

This is the opposite Your Dad's black thought thing You're like dude This whole genre is one guy This is the best Yeah I love Dubstep Yeah

Dude his first album Skrillix is fucking crazy Yeah gross and nuts. What does your dad listen to other than Black Thought? My dad listens to Bob Dylan and John Denver. Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting.

Which is exactly what I listen to. Yeah. Apparently John Denver is like making a comeback. Really? People are like on TikTok, like country road is like charting. I feel like that's been like consistent like the most famous song. Like of age. But yeah.

But like it never broke into like pop culture in my opinion. Really? Like it was like, and I don't know, my estimation it was always like a huge song in the South. in colleges. Like, it's kind of like Dixieland delight. Yeah. I don't know. Growing up, like, I've known the words to that song since I was like eight years old. Yeah. It's just seared in there. Yeah. But yeah, no, I, like, it's on. But they probably throw an edm beat behind it now. Yeah. That should go so crazy. I literally heard a country, like, an edm remix of Creed. And I was like, this is the best song I heard. Wait, I saw that. It just

was, it just came out this week or something like that. Or like on TikTok maybe or something like that. Yeah, literally. Yeah. I'm six feet from the edge and I'm breathing. Crete's great. Dude, that is probably the all-time greatest karaoke song. Creed, yeah. Just 80.

Oh, me now. When me and my friends go to bars, like when I go visit my buddies from high school, we literally, we go to the touch tunes and it's just we load it up with Crete. Just nonstop. Yeah. Yeah, it's unreal. Yeah. Like secret bangers that I feel like people don't really put enough respect on.

Oh, yeah. I feel like they kind of got lumped into like a nymphed into like a nip. Nickelback kind of category where it's like... Both of them were like punchlines. Yeah. And even if you like... Nickelback is fire. But Creed's great.

It's like a genre and it's like if you... It was like maybe like dentist's office music for like a while for kids or whatever that they associated with something. But like they're bangers. Well, rock star definitely did, uh, did Nickelback pretty dirty. Oh, you think so? Yeah. I think that kind of like soured there. Why?

I just think it's kind of a corny song. Like the lyrics of it. There's two bathroom mentions in it that I always, it always bugged me. He's like, I want a bathroom I can play baseball in. And then he's also like a big black chair with a bathroom in it. I'm like, how many bathrooms does this guy in this one song need? Like, what do you think rock stars do? Just like, use the bathroom on.

Little Wayne said something like that. Like, I got 12 bathrooms. I was like a shit all day or some shit like that. It's cooler when he does it. I'll be honest. Oh, anything. Yeah, it's cooler when he does. But it's a black thought, you know what I mean?

It plays a little bit more. If it's from black thought, the genre, And I'm like, yeah, it's sick. But when it's from Chad Kroger, I'm like, I don't know if we need this. You know what I mean? Wasn't there a thing a while ago where it was like Shaq had like a gold bath or like a gold toilet? Did he?

I think that was like a rumor when I was a kid and everyone was like, yeah, dude, checks. So, so rich he has a gold toilet. We went to James Goldstein's house in L.A., and he has like a mirror bathroom. You know who James Goldstein is? He's like this old guy who goes to every Lakers game. He's been to more NBA games than any other human being. That's cool. 80-year-old decrepit skeleton of a man.

But his house is like where they film the Big Lobowski and Charlie's Angels. Oh, really? Yeah. This fucking sick house. But the one bathroom's like all mirrors. There's no right angles in the whole house. It's fucking incredible. That's kind of sick.

Is that weird being in there? Did he build it? It was a guy who's the like Frank Lloyd Wright's like second in command type of dude that built it. It's a fucking sick house. The gobbles of Frank Lloyd Wright. Yeah. Yeah. The minister of propaganda for Frank Lloyd Wright.

similar of Franklin right Exactly But it's a fucking It was a beautiful house A beautiful bathroom But like you're just watching yourself shit Like you're like seeing down the shoot Of your own dick

Against the mirrors of the wall Or whatever I don't like that at all See in every angle of your So straining I don't know so maybe rock stars Do get on weird bathroom I don't know

Like I thought I knew one kid in my neighborhood That had a urinal in his bathroom Like at his house I was like it's pretty sick Yeah It's actually like a thing like a smart move It's like you don't have to clean as much I think houses

just have urinals in them Oh, I thought you said a journal. I really thought that you were... Because I've had friends who have like a sign-in book in their bathroom. No. Where you like shit and you like sign in. Wait, why? Just like something to do, something right down.

Like, Mike was here. Is that my boy Mike's house? Really? That's funny. Oh, that's insane. No, in middle school we did have some kids that would... They would... You would use the restroom. You would take a shit in the bathroom.

And then you would take a piece of toilet paper and you'd sign your name. And then you'd sign the name. date and then you'd leave it on the side of the bathroom like on the toilet that's hilarious and then you leave you leave it on top of the shit on top on the side like you could kind of put it anywhere in the stall and then someone would walk in and be like oh this is gross and you'd see like oh stephen did this and you'd be like it's kind of actually impressive he's a beast that's hilarious really good shit Stephen and then and then of course guys would start signing other people's names and so they would start signing like girls oh yeah girl a teacher or something like that

And then of course, like, this is, how could this get funny? Yeah. It's just levels of the funniness. That shit is brilliant. It was unbelievable. There's some shit we get up to in middle school. I look back on like, this is wild. Yeah.

I photoshop my face on every single cheerleader in the cheerleading picture of the year. Come on, bro. It's too much. And that's what I thought. That's what I thought. And then I put it in the hallway and replaced it with like the cheerleading picture in the hallway with just my face on every cheerleader. That's so funny. It was out there for six months.

And then one day I just found it in my locker. That's hilarious. Yeah. And I just think the principal was just like, this is too funny to punish him, but I'm just going to give it back to him. I still have the photos. I'm going to show it too.

It's like unbelievable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought I was going to get in way more trouble. Yeah. You didn't have lettuce at the time, did you? No, I wasn't chattered up. I was just a regular twink. Yeah.

I was just a regular twink. When did this come about? I mean, it's been a progressive effort. It's been, it's just, I basically, I literally in college, I was like, I'm going to eventually have to get a real job. I'm going to have to work in finance or something. Yeah.

So I'm just going to not cut my hair until I have to get a real job. Yeah. And it's just never going to happen. Now I'm here. I just haven't had a real job. You're about to be on some movement mode. So how long do you think you can go with it? Ass to ass?

Hair to ass. It's close. I'm curled up. I'm like a kinky guy. I've got fucking kinky hair. But it gets close to my ass right now if I get soggy. Like if I get soggy and wet, it'll get close. Damn.

That's crazy. Which is kind of sick. Have you grow your hair up? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but my hair doesn't go like that. My hair doesn't get curly. Yeah, you're blessed with a good direction of hair.

Yeah, mine just gets straight. I've tried to grow my shit out before and it goes like fucking... My own ways look like a girl's hair. Just like emo. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, just hot topic vibes. Yeah, it's just like straight. Straight out.

It's full Asian. Yeah, that's what my stick straight hair. Is it really? Yeah. I'd see, I was one of them when I was a kid. Oh, I hate it. Even now? You can get a perm.

No, that's crazy. You should get a prime. No, that would be insane. Why not? Why not? That would be insane. I'll straight my hair. He purposely uglies himself up for stage.

Oh, yeah. So he could never do something that was like a measure to make himself look better at going on stage. This is the ugliest version of him? Well, I definitely wouldn't. I know, exactly. I definitely wouldn't get a perm. That would probably destroy my career. I think people would really like it.

If I went on stage, like the broccoli like TikTok haircut. I think people would connect with you more. I think people would look at that, be like, oh, this is a relatable young guy. What is this fucking freak on stage? Do you think about that? like your appearance whenever you go on stage. No, not at all. They make, he made that up.

I don't do that at all. Because in my early days, I would sometimes do where I like, I put on like a baseball jersey and I'm like, I'm not this guy. You're gonna think I'm like a baseball. I can't do this. No, I don't think about that. Just hockey guy.

Yeah, I took it off. I was like, God, I just can't. No, I just try and be comfortable. I just wear something comfortable on stage. But then sometimes I'm like, oh, I'm too comfortable. I'm in a nice place. I got to wear a collared shirt. And then I'm like, am I overthinking it?

Am I two in my head at this point? Yeah, I've never done that You've never been like A stadium would you Or like a theater or something like that Would you? You've done big venues Like you've done like a nice theater

Would you wear a sweat band? No, I've never done a big theater Oh really? No Oh I assumed you do it now Yeah Do you might want to hang it up Yeah

How old are you're 22? Yeah If you haven't done a theater at 22 It's like I mean we can live in this delusion I guess yeah Everyone he's a hobby Yeah

I'm not dressing up nice to go to like Helium or the improv No that's reasonable I'm not like oh I got to put on my fucking white buttoned shirt to go sit in front of a bunch of hammered people. Yeah, no, that's reasonable. Some lady with their feet on the stage

why am I dressing up for you? But once you do theaters, you need to start dressing like a Mormon on a mission. Yeah, I got to start wearing like John Malaney's suits. I'm going to go pulling some comedy route, though. Baggy? Yeah. Just a zoot ass suit? Baggy ass suits. This is nice, but you're anything like orange, like bright orange? Yeah.

Trying to make a statement. I had something brighter. A fedora maybe? shoes that match my fedora? Yeah, that's insane. I don't know. I want to see you really take a step. I would love to see you like really branch out. I really should.

I should try. Even the beanie. I'm like, I wouldn't wear a, I wouldn't wear a tuk on stage. Oh, I got it. Ooh, tuk. But you are French-Canadian.

Come on, dude. Come on, dude. A toup? I'm a real Canadian kid. But I can't wear a tuk on stage. And then people are going to look at me and be like, what's going on. I don't know.

I don't even know what the hell is a tuk. I've never heard that. You never heard. I've never heard anyone say that. That's like the Canadian word for a bean. No, I just wear, I like to wear hats. Like, in the summer I don't really wear hats. So I'll cut my hair.

But in the winter, I like to wear hats. So I have my hair longer. I need to be more adventurous. Because with long hair and a beanie, you just immediately look like you. Jay and Tyler Bobbush. Yeah. But you just can't.

Yeah, but if I, if I wear a beanie in the winter with short hair, then I look insane. It looks like I'm bald. You look like a beanie. Yeah. Yeah. So I wear, I like to have my hair longer in the winter. No, that makes sense.

Yeah. See, there is a little bit of thought that goes into it. But that thought is only, that thought is strictly about the walk from my house to the comedy club. Yeah, it's functional. Yeah, exactly. This is white thought. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's going to be your new rap name, White Thought, dude.

That's pretty good, right? I went on stage with Black Thought one time, and I said, I was like, I was like, and I'm White Thought. Like, we were like, doing like a cipher at the end of some show. He was like, they're having people up, and it's like, yo, it's White Thought. and he was just like, I think he chuckled, but he was like, oh my fucking God,

this fucking guy. That might be a big compliment. Sometimes black people do laugh like that. I remember the first time I did like an open mic, there was a black guy was like, hey, you're stupid. I was like,

thank you. That is a high compliment. Yeah, oh, that was the vibe. You're stupid. Yeah, if he said, oh, you so stupid. You're stupid as fuck. That's actually a good thing. So, yeah.

Consider yourself lucky, okay? It was brave of me, but. Yeah, it was. I went out swinging. Yeah. All right, gentlemen. This has been a great time. Yeah, it's been very fun.

I feel like I learned a lot about you. You're going to spill the whiskey. Genuinely, of all, oh, actually, the main question I want to ask, we can start the podcast now. Why is it called Son of a Boydow? Is that explained? I tried to Google this,

and I couldn't find an answer. That was his idea. He was thrown into the bus. It was. He sent me a list of names, and I was like, Alex, son of a boy, that one's good. So I was like, it was your idea

because I sent you 20 other different good names. Yeah, yeah. It was supposed to be a, it was his idea. I literally had no part of it. Do you not like the name? I touched on something that's... No, no. We have been getting some negative feedback.

I, like, posted, like, you should come watch our podcast, and everyone's, like, great podcast, but, like, the name is really off-putting. I don't know why. Did you see that? No. Multiple people were saying that.

I think it's kind of nice. Yeah. I think it's just a generic-ass name. Or just every man is the son of a boy dad. Yeah, it's great. Yeah. It's like an all-encompassing men podcast. It's like Dr. Pepper for men.

Yeah, it's kind of nice. But there's really no rhyme or reason. Was there a backup? I mean, there are 20 other names I send them. Like, I've named a bunch of other shows before. My thought process was always, like, have a big list and, like, whatever sounds the best when you go through the list. So what do you think of camp?

I mean, is that. It's fucking dope. Does that a good name? Like, do you feel like there's legs to that? Especially the Vod. 100% there's good name. Yeah, yeah. I feel like someone who I never put that together.

Why do you think he was in a... I literally never put that together. I would call it the opium files. This is like an opium kind of shot. show. No, it is a great, great vibe for a podcast. Definitely the best podcast set I've ever been on. Yeah, clippily. Clip it. And take out the fact that he said set. It's not a set. We're in the woods. We're set. Yeah, yeah, it's the best podcast he's ever been on. Okay, just remove that part. We're in the Canadian forest. Yeah, exactly. We're deep in Alberta.

Anyway, thank you, boys. Thanks for having us, man. Appreciate you for us, man. Appreciate you for.