Camp Gagnon - LOST Cities: Atlantis, Sodom, & More

Episode Date: August 29, 2024

Atlantis, Sodom & Gomorrah, Göbekli Tepe, Mohenjo-Daro, these are just a few places that fell to the brutality of nature. I'm fascinated by how they felt, what was lost, and what we know about th...ese places today, so I took a look at some of the most interesting lost cities from around the world. WELCOME TO CAMP!🏞️ Sign up to Camp for exclusive updates: https://camp.beehiiv.com/Intro: Chifftie Edit and Production: Christos PapastefanouResearch: Ravi PandyaShoutout to our sponsor...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 One day, you're chilling with your family, your wife, your kids, your dog, all your friends. And out of nowhere, a meteor comes out of the sky and destroys you and everyone you've ever known. Or maybe it's a tsunami, the size of a skyscraper coming from the coast that crashes out of your house and destroys everything. All the technology and innovations of your whole society is gone in an instant. This may seem like a far-out sci-fi movie, but for hundreds of thousands of people on this planet, It was their reality. Entire cities wiped off the face of the earth forever.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Now all we have is the archaeological remnants, and scientists have been trying to piece together the stories ever since. But today, we're going through my favorites. Yes, we're going through all of my favorite cataclysmic events that have destroyed ancient cities all over the world, from Saddam Gamora to Mahendra Daro to the Lost City of Atlantis. I'm breaking down all the facts, all the theories, and all the myths that make these stories.
Starting point is 00:01:03 so compelling. I'll even explain some scientific theories around these cataclysms, even things like the Younger Dryest Impact Theory, and how in 2036 we may be facing yet another cataclysm. An asteroid circling Earth right now, the size of a football stadium that could be crashing out on our planet, destroying you and everyone you've ever known. So sit back, relax, and welcome to camp. What's up, everybody, and welcome back to camp. This is a show where I explain the most fast fascinating, interesting, and bizarre details of history to my dumbest friends. Unfortunately, I don't have any dumb friends today. They're off doing dumb things.
Starting point is 00:01:55 I was going to have my buddy Derek Posten, very funny comedian. I thought he was going to join me, but he, last minute, was diagnosed with autism. Terminal autism. So, prayers up to Derek. You couldn't be here today. But fortunately, you, listening at home, you can be my dumb friend, if you want. I mean, I'm probably dumber than most of you guys. But if you're willing to join me, we're going to go through some of the most fascinating and devastating cataclysmic events in history that have destroyed ancient cities.
Starting point is 00:02:22 But first, a couple of messages of housekeeping. First off, I just want to say thank you to everyone that's been listening and commenting the past month. I've had an absolute blast just, you know, doing the show, changing up the format a little bit. It's been super, super fun. And it seems like the comments have been pretty positive. I mean, let's go through some of them. On the most recent episode that I did with my buddy Miles about reincarnation, Miles's ignorant and smugness is unbearable.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Okay, that one's not super nice. Miles will snuff out any passion his kids have because it's an inconvenience. Okay. Miles sucks. Oh, what about this one? I like Miles. I thought he was a fun addition to the show. That's it.
Starting point is 00:03:01 We're keeping Miles, all right? I just needed one good comment and turns out we got one. Miles is staying. But not today. Like I said, today is just going to be us. And genuinely, I'm very happy with the feedback. I feel like you guys have been enjoying the show. I've been really enjoyed doing it.
Starting point is 00:03:15 And furthermore, it was called rituals. I think we're going to call it tent talks. A lot of people voted. They liked the name tent talks, but people pointed out to me, oh, there's already a guy, Yuri, the harmonious man. It's got a great channel, very, very funny podcast. They called it tent talks. So I reached out to Yuri.
Starting point is 00:03:30 I said, what's up, dude? I do a podcast in a tent. Can I call it tent talks? He hasn't posted on his show for a while. And he said, dude, thanks for reaching out. We've been planning on changing the name for a while. So go ahead. There you have it, folks. Tent talks it is. Until further notice. Ladies and gentlemen, we got a lot to get into, all right? Over the past, I don't know, 5,000 years, there's been some crazy things that have happened on this planet we call Earth. Some crazy things, cataclysmic events that have destroyed cities. I mean, I didn't really know about a lot of this stuff. I'll be honest. I'm a casual. I'm just a dumb comedian. But I got into it, and I'll be honest, I've been blown away by some of the stuff that I read. So I think we got to starve of the classic. You know.
Starting point is 00:04:12 You know the one. Sodom and Gomorrah. Yes, the cities that were killed for being gay. Which actually, I looked into, I don't know if that's necessarily true. I was kind of taught growing up, like, oh yeah, they smited them because they're gay. Not exactly the truth, but we'll get into that. Okay, if you've never heard of Sodom and Gamora, this is a famous story known in the Bible in Genesis. It's found in the Quran. It's obviously found in the Hebrew Bible, which is just the Bible first five books. And it goes a little something like this. Basically, Sodom was known. as the essence of evil. The men of Sodom were wicked, Genesis 13. There was actually a bunch of towns in the area. These are known as the cities of the plain. This was just Sodom, Gomorrah, as well as Adma, Ziboam, and then Zohar. So not only Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed, it was actually
Starting point is 00:05:00 four of the cities that were absolutely smited by God. It's pretty interesting. So first, basically, Sodom was indebted to Abraham. Abraham, you know him, the big OG of the Old Testament, one of the maiden dudes. Basically, they're indebted to him because he liberated the city. He got him freed. He saved his nephew Lott who got captured by this evil ruler dude, right? And then basically, Lott goes and lives in Sodom. He's having a good time. He ends up kind of moving up the ranks, it seems like, and he's basically living as like an authority figure. He's at the gates of the city of Sodom, kind of like greeting people as they come in. So he actually works his way up within this town, is what it seems like based off of your interpretation of the Bible. And what's actually interesting about
Starting point is 00:05:41 this is that depending on what religion or what faith you're in, there's actually different interpretations of how this story goes. And we're going to get into all that. Don't you worry, baby birds. Hey, what's up, guys? Sorry to interrupt this amazing program, but I need a little bit of help. If you're watching this on YouTube, you can probably see our subscriber number right down here. And if you're able to, it would mean the world if you could subscribe. That is the best way to support this show. Because when you subscribe, I'm able to show it to potential guests or to different brands and stuff like that. And it really, really helps grow the show, get us cooler guests, have cooler conversations, and it helps everything so, so much. So if you don't mind,
Starting point is 00:06:12 thank you so much. Let's get back to it. So basically God tells Abraham, hey, this town, Sodom, I'm going to destroy it. I'm smiting the whole thing because they're so wicked. It says in the Bible that they were of the utmost wickedness. So Abraham does basically the funniest thing in the world, and he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, you're killing everyone. You're going to destroy the righteous and the wicked altogether, and God's like, oh, that's a good point. And so basically, Abraham starts, like, arguing with God, literally. I mean, he's, like, it's the most Jewish thing I've ever heard. He, like, starts litigating.
Starting point is 00:06:47 He's like, how about if there's 50 people, you don't smite them? If there's 50 good people, you don't smite the whole town. And God's like, no, you do 50. There's 50, you know, we can smite. Yeah, I won't smite them. And then Abraham goes back, he's like, I don't think there's 50. So he goes back to God. He's like, okay, what if there's four?
Starting point is 00:07:04 42. What if there's 42 righteous people? Then will you not smite the whole town and everyone that I know over there? and God's like, oh, maybe 42. And he works his way down, literally going back and forth. He's like, God, okay, all right, right. What's the difference between 42 and 10? What if there's 10 good guys? I could find 10 good guys. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:07:23 I could find a starting lineup for a soccer team of good dudes, right? We could find 10. And God's like, all right, 10. And he's like, what about 9? And God's like, we said 10. A deal is a deal. And everyone's like, oh, all right, we'll do 10. So they shake on it and they say, all right,
Starting point is 00:07:37 if there's 10 righteous people, I won't smite the town. So then God sends some angels, but not angels in the way we've seen them in the Bible. I mean, look at this picture of angels. I mean, these angels, you'd spot those angels from a mile away. I mean, wings and eyes everywhere. These were angels in the form of men. Yes, probably pretty handsome men. I imagine if you're going to be an angel, you're going to take a man's body.
Starting point is 00:08:00 You'd take a jacked dude. That's what I would do if I was an angel. Basically, God sends two angels in the form of men into the city, and they go to test it out. Abraham escorts them. they make it to Sodom and Lot Abraham's nephew that's there living in the town with this family they accept the visitors these angels that are in the beings of men and they take them in and they are very hospitable they have them in their home they treat them very very well and then immediately the townspeople start banging on the door and they're like hey lot we want to bang those dudes
Starting point is 00:08:33 and lot's like ah nah you can't these are my boys you can't can't bang them and the people are No, for real. We want to, we want to bang your dudes. And Lott's like, come on, guys. Don't have, don't, don't, don't, come on. And they're like, no, for real, we want it. And the Lott's like, all right, all right, right, I got an idea. How about you take my two virgin daughters?
Starting point is 00:08:55 How about you take them instead of the dudes? And so he kicks them out and the townspeople look at the daughters and they're like, ew, chicks. And they're like, nah, fuck these girls. We don't want the girls. We want the dudes. We want those hot angel dudes. And Lott's like, oh, come on, man.
Starting point is 00:09:11 I gave you my daughters, which it's kind of hospitable. You know what I mean? It's not nowadays you wouldn't really want to do that. But back in the day, it was probably a nice gesture. Like, oh, two virgins? That's not bad. I don't even know what the going rate for virgins is nowadays. But regardless, he throws him out.
Starting point is 00:09:26 The people say no, and they say, we want those hot angels. And Lott basically has to be like, oh, damn, what do we do? He goes to the angels and the angels go, hang on, let me try something. They blind all the men. Yeah, all the people banging on the door trying to get in. to like these dudes, he blinds him so they can't find the door. They don't know where they are. They're all disoriented. And then they like go to sleep. And then the next morning the angels are like, all right, a lot. Deals a deal. These people are obviously deranged. There's no saving them.
Starting point is 00:09:54 And Lot's like, yeah, I guess. All right. You're right. So the angels tell him, hey, take you, your whole family, go to Zoar. You guys are going to be safe. That's in Genesis 19, 22, 23. So Lot's like, all right, let's get out of here. And then it says in the Bible in Genesis 19, the Lord rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah. From the Lord out of the heavens, thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, including all those living in the cities and also all the vegetation in the land.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Literally fire and sulfur coming down from the sky. Kind of sounds like a meteorite or an asteroid or something, which if I'm God and I want to smite a bunch of wicked people, that's what I would do. I'd be like, dude, I already have all these asteroids I was building. Might as well use them. So apparently they come down, massive cataclysmic event, eviscerates the whole town,
Starting point is 00:10:38 Kills everybody. Lott and his whole family, they're running out, just like hoofing it. Lott's wife disobeys the command of the angels. The angel said specifically, don't look back. Lott's wife. That's what I'm saying, bro. Sometimes these women don't listen. What does she do? She looked back immediately.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Bang, turns into a pillar of salt. Now, there's some different interpretations of this. A lot of people kind of look at this to say that she was looking back on the wickedness of the town and was sort of like longing for it. She was like a theater kid at the end of a play. just like, I'm going to miss this place. She hit him with one of those. And so God was like, no, you got to go. Bang, pillar of salt.
Starting point is 00:11:14 And it's interesting. There's actually some, like, symbology that people point to to say that she became like a preservation of the wickedness, some type of manifestation, literally, in the way you would, like, use salt to preserve things. I'm assuming that's where you get, like, I don't know, Himaland's seat, like the pink salt.
Starting point is 00:11:29 That's probably, I don't know. It might be Lott's wife, whoever that is. Probably good. I don't know. I imagine. I've never, I've never tried. human woman salt. Regardless, she turns into a pillar of salt and that's it.
Starting point is 00:11:42 What's interesting is that actually in Islam, there's a slightly different interpretation of my understanding. Again, I'm not Muslim. Okay, I have a little bit of a beard, but like I'm not, I'm not Muslim. But in the Quran, in the Surah 11, verse 81, it states, let not any among you look back, except your wife. Indeed, she will be struck by that which strikes the people of Sodom. There you have it.
Starting point is 00:12:05 God knew. He was like, yo, you got to go. Allah, he was like, yo, this girl's going to look back. I can feel it. She's not, she probably had a septum ring. She's a wild girl. She's probably a thigh tattoo. And that's why she had to go.
Starting point is 00:12:15 So I'm just saying, if your girl's not listening, if you feel like she's disobedient, you don't have to handle it, all right? Don't, don't take anything to your own hands. Let God smite her into some kosher salt. I don't know, whatever he's got to do. Okay, that's what I'm saying. So this is basically the story of Sodom and Gomorra as we hear it in the Bible. This is also where we get the word sodomy.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Nowadays, you hear about sodomy. Sometimes people equate it. like dudes banging. Sometimes they just equate it to like penetrating someone against their will. It comes from this word, the sin of Sodom, which is like an old Greek translation. That's how we have it now. So again, this is contested depending on who you ask. Why was Sodom destroyed? And people have different explanations. Paul says in Romans 1 that homosexuality was an example of the wickedness and the rejection of the creator. Christ says in Matthew, if anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, basically the word of the gospel, leave that home or take.
Starting point is 00:13:07 town and shake the dust off your feet. Truly, I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gammar on the day of judgment than for that town. And then in Jude 7, it says just as Sodom and Gimor in the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire. And then again, there's another mention in Ezekiel 16 that says, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom. She and her daughters had pride, excess of food, prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor or needy. They were haughty and did a bombitable things before me. Therefore, I've removed them when I saw it. So it seems like it's a mixture of things. I don't know if it's the gayness necessarily. I think people sometimes
Starting point is 00:13:45 attributed that and they're like, oh, it's because they're gay. That's not true, right? San Francisco still exists. That's pretty gay. I think it's pretty much more so the... Yes, me. I think that's probably worse. You know, I don't like it's political here, but I think that's probably a worse thing to do trying to run a bunch of angels. So I'm just saying it seems like it's probably more an act of in hospitality in trying to actually, you know, malign these people, trying to assault them. I mean, sexual violence is like the worst you could do to a person. So it seems like that was really the problem and that there was so much wickedness, more so that these people were not turning to God, that they were turning to the creation, that they were just living a life
Starting point is 00:14:19 of wickedness. That's just, again, some of my interpretation talking to my, you know, more Christian friends that are a little bit more versed in the Bible to me. Again, some people, even in Islam, I talked to a couple of Muslim buddies and they were like, yeah, it kind of depends. seems like in the Koran, again, I'm not Muslim. Correct me if I'm wrong. It seems like there's a little bit more directness that says that the men in Sodom lusted after men instead of women. So again, it's sort of contested. My impression is like, look, I think they were just evil people doing fucked up things. And that, you know, I think trying to, you know, assault a bunch of angels is probably the worst part. I think that's probably why God wanted to smite them. So I'm just saying,
Starting point is 00:14:56 if you see an angel, just keep your hands to yourself, okay? Long story short, this town got destroyed by fire, comets, meteors, reigning from heaven. And the question is, where is it today? It's got to be nearby, right? We know the city's names. We have different locations geographically in the Bible. And this is where it gets pretty interesting. For the longest time, people have been looking south of the Dead Sea. I'll put like a little map here. This is kind of the area where people were looking south of the Dead Sea. In the Hebrew tradition, as I understand it, there's a Mount Sodom where people assume that is where Sodom was. But in 1996, a biblical archaeologist named Stephen Collins, a gentleman by the name of Stephen Collins,
Starting point is 00:15:33 did a tour of Israel where he started visiting north of the Dead Sea. Again, this technically still translates with the geography that the Bible lays out. They say it was like basically a day's walk from where Abraham originally was. And technically you could make it in like a day to this area that they call Tal El Hamam. Now Tal El Hamam is this little area north of the Dead Sea, closer to Jordan. And this is where it gets very interesting. Dr. Collins and his teams began excavating Tall El Hamam, an archaeological site about eight miles northeast of the Dead Sea. The site emerged as a significant candidate for Sodom due to its size and alignment with the biblical geographical descriptions.
Starting point is 00:16:12 The team discovered Tall El Hamam was a massive Bronze Age city, potentially housing up to 50,000 people. They found extensive fortifications, palaces, temples, and other infrastructure indicative of a major ancient metropolis. So they're going through, they're like, yo, this, we found a town here. There's nothing there right now. It's completely desolate. Nothing grows there. No vegetation. And they're looking at it. They're like, wait, we found some, there's like an old city that was here. During their excavation, they found something very interesting. A unique destruction layer. Ash, charred remains, and even melted pottery. Hmm. So they found a ton of different pieces of pottery and this is the part that I found the most intriguing. They found a piece of pottery that has a piece of pottery that
Starting point is 00:16:56 had what's known as a glaze. If you've ever taken like a ceramics class, I'm not gonna lie, I took one in high school. I did. Mr. Earl, shout out to him. If you take a ceramics class, you basically make pots and you heat them to extreme temperatures
Starting point is 00:17:07 and you get like a glaze. It's almost like a glassy, like crystallization on the outside and the inside. Every part that gets heated and sort of coated with this glaze, right? But what's interesting is that this glazing technique wasn't invented until Twitter when people started glazing.
Starting point is 00:17:21 No, it wasn't invented until 1,000 AD during the Ottoman Empire. So people were like, oh, that's interesting. Dr. Collins thought, oh, damn, turns out my whole excavation has been contaminated. It seems like maybe there's another tribe that was here, maybe some other people, some Ottomans came down into the region and they were living here for a period of time. And then they left their pottery that obviously had this glazing technique that was only available 1,000 AD. But then they looked at it, and this is where it gets interesting. One of the workers at the excavation site was a part of the Manhattan Project. Yes, you know, that Manhattan Project.
Starting point is 00:17:55 This is the Manhattan Project that tested nuclear weapons at the New Mexico Desert during the World War II era. Now, something happens when they set off nuclear bombs. It creates something on the ground called Trinotite. Now, this comes from the Trinity bomb that was exploded again in New Mexico. And basically what happens is it turns the desert ground, like a mixture of soil,
Starting point is 00:18:15 and turns it into this crystallized glass. And it only happens when exposed to extreme heat for a flash of an instant. Just like that. Now, Trinotite is found, obviously, in New Mexico where they do nuclear testing, but it was also found on these pots. They're like, huh, this is interesting. Furthermore, the pots weren't just glazed all over like you would typically find for these types of Ottoman-era pots. The pots, first off, were from the time, the Bronze Age time, around the time that Sodom was an actual city.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Furthermore, they were only glazed partially on the outside, nothing on the inside and sometimes nothing on the back. side of the fragments that were still around. Like I said, one of the workers on the excavation was working for the Manhattan Project. He picked up this fragment of pottery, looked at it and said, Dr. Collins, this looks like trinotite. They took it back to the lab, and he was correct. This pot had what's known as trinotite on it, basically meaning that these were bronze-aged pots from the time of Sodom, accurate with the scriptural record that had been exposed to extreme heat for a small period of time. So they're looking at it, and they say, oh, this is interesting. interesting because they can't see where an asteroid actually hit the ground. They're looking,
Starting point is 00:19:28 but they don't see any type of actual crater pattern. And this is where they come up with what's known as the Meteor Airburst Hypothesis. Sounds wild, but just listen. There's extraordinary evidence of high temperatures that led researchers to propose the Meteor Airburst Hypothesis. This is an explanation for the city's destruction. The theory suggests that a meteor could have exploded over the Dead Sea, entering the Earth's atmosphere, and then basically breaking up a couple hundred feet above the Earth's surface. This would release immense heat and energy. The resulting blast wave would have flattened buildings, eviscerated everything in its path, and this aligns with the biblical account of fire and brimstone. What's interesting is I hear that all the time growing up,
Starting point is 00:20:11 like, oh, fire and brimstone. Apparently, brimstone comes from the word sulfur. So literally, it would be kind of like this sulfuric gas, though it would cause asphyxia or burn you. And that's where this idea comes from. And this is what would have been raining down during this actual airburst. Additional support for this theory comes from the discovery of microsferials, including iridium, osminium, and other rare earth elements typically found in asteroids. The hypothesis further suggests that the meteor explosion might have vaporized part of the dead sea dispersing salt and debris across the region,
Starting point is 00:20:44 which could explain the biblical reference to Lot's wife turning into a pillar of salt. Pretty strange. Now, the question is, how do they know it's from the sky, right? As we're saying, there's this airburst that's basically causing fire and sulfur to blast out of the sky. How do they know that? Researchers used angular calculations to triangulate the scorch marks and melted services to determine the blast's origin. They find human remains hiding behind walls and killed from above, basically some type of shockwave or extreme heat coming from an above angle,
Starting point is 00:21:14 Not from a down angle, not from a warring tribe or people coming to kill them, a blast from above. 21 scholars, many of them non-religious, came together to write a 64-page report saying that the meteor airburst hypothesis is very likely. An airburst sounds delicious, by the way. They should look into that. They said it's something similar to the Tenguska event in Siberia. If you've never heard of the Tunguska event, this is fascinating. This happened in 1908, and this wiped out 800 square miles and could have easily destroyed an entire city if it didn't crash in the middle of nowhere. Siberia. I mean, look at the pictures of this. I'm going to pull up a couple pictures right now.
Starting point is 00:21:48 You should absolutely look. It's crazy. The Tunguska event is, like I said, this massive airburst. This is basically a meteor that came into Earth's atmosphere and broke up just a couple hundred miles above the earth. And this happened in the 20th century, 1908 in Siberia. And you can look at the trees all flattened. To this day, no trees grow in the region. All the soil destroyed. Now it grows like a little bit of grass. But you can just see this giant clearing in all these trees. Just crazy. It makes you think, you're like, wow, I guess maybe this, you know, story from the Bible that many people kind of assume is maybe metaphorical or, you know, kind of a description of, you know, some events in history maybe put together, actually has credible archaeological evidence. Again, I'm not an archaeologist. I don't know. I just was reading a Wikipedia article. I was like, this seems pretty interesting. Just makes you think, you got to wonder, maybe God killed the dinosaurs. Maybe they were doing some wicked stuff. I don't know. Have we looked into that? Maybe dinosaurs were gay. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, look at this raptor. Look at this picture of a raptor. Look at those arms.
Starting point is 00:22:49 That wrist is a little limp. Let's just look into it. I don't know, all right? All I'm saying is this is not the last time that there's been a smiting by God from the sky. Let me tell you about Mahenjo Daro. What's up, guys? We're going to take a break really quick because if you're anything like me, you like a little caffeine kick. You like to maybe grab a coffee, maybe one or two during the day. But you can't always access it. You know, maybe you're going on a hike.
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Starting point is 00:24:54 Let's get back to the show. Mahenjo Daro. This is written by David Davenport in his book, Atomic Destruction in 2000 BC. This explores a theory that the ancient city of Mahendra Daro, part of the Indus Valley civilization, was destroyed in an event resembling a nuclear explosion. This is now located in modern-day Pakistan. Mahendra Dara was one of the most advanced centers of ancient civilization. It was thriving around 2,500 BC.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Across present-day Pakistan, there's archaeological excavations that show that this was a city with sophisticated urban planning, advanced engineering, and complex social organization that abruptly vanish. No one knows why, no one knows how. Even in the modern day, there's floods that affect Pakistan, but yet the ancient ruins of Mahanjadaro are untouched by the floods because of the advanced irrigation system that actually moves the water out of the city. It's absolutely fascinating. It's extremely advanced and out of nowhere disappeared.
Starting point is 00:25:51 They look at the remains and their remains are very strange. A lot of bodies, skeletons scattered in the streets, not in any type of ritual burial. I mean, just look at some of the pictures here. I mean, this is like fascinating stuff. What happened to these people and where did they go? traditional theories suggest that the city might have been abandoned due to natural disasters like floods or something or that there was an invasion by a foreign army that just killed everyone but david davenport presents an alternative hypothesis that mahenjo darrow was destroyed by a nuclear like blast perhaps a comet or he even posits potentially maybe some ancient technology look i'm not one of these guys it's like yo ancient people had nukes but i'm just saying it's pretty fascinating to think that one day you could be chilling out hanging eating hot dogs, and then an explosion happens and kills you and everyone you've ever known.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Pretty wild. The blast site is absolutely puzzling. I mean, no one knows. It's exactly like what we talked about at Sodom and Gomorrah with that kind of trinitite. They found vitrified stone. This is basically stone that's been melted down and turned into glass. Human remains found lying in the streets as if their death came suddenly and reports of elevated radiation levels in some areas. These remains were not found in orderly burial sites or any type of organized death ritual.
Starting point is 00:27:03 but suggest actually that it happened quickly, immediately. No gradual decline, no abandonment due to famine or disease. Many of the skeletons were discovered sprawled and contorted positions, indicating that death came abruptly and without warning. The evidence suggests that the city's inhabitants were caught off guard by an unexpected event. So this is where this nuclear blast hypothesis comes in. Again, in my opinion, seems more similar to one of these airbursts that we talked about before. David Davenport compares the evidence at Mahenjadaro to the effect seen in modern nuclear explosions,
Starting point is 00:27:36 similar to Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Again, if you remember, these nuclear events, they don't strike the ground like a traditional bomb, right? These are nuclear bombs that drop from the sky and explode over the earth. Again, creating an airburst, creating a ton of energy, a shockwave that shakes through and absolutely eviscerates everything in his path. Now, what's interesting about this story of Mahendra Doro is that David Davenport draws. on the Mahabrath. This is an ancient Indian epic I've spoken about in different episodes, which mention weapons that could incinerate cities and cause widespread destruction. Davenport
Starting point is 00:28:09 and other researchers of India's ancient Vedic texts have suggested that this is the case at Mahendra Dara, and that in fact this city could be the ancient kingdom of Lanka, described in the Ramayana. This is an ancient kingdom known as Lanka, and in the Indian epic, it's described that the leader, named Ravana became too powerful. Ravana was a student of Shiva and was gaining all of this wisdom from Shiva and himself Ravana became too powerful. So as a result, Vishnu decides to battle the leader.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Vishnu takes a human form of Rama and does a battle with Ravana who has become like a god. Ravana was a very formidable enemy. In fact, most of his power it was acquired from Shiva himself. During the battle of Rama and Ravana, that used particular weapons of energy, what's known as weapons of the gods.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Again, this is according to the Vedic text, and they had the power of unknown destruction. It was described as the sun turning into 50 even more brighter suns with this incredible blast. So some people have suggested that perhaps Mahendra Dharo is similar to this famous kingdom of Lanka, that perhaps this is what inspired the Vedic text. To this day, no one knows exactly what happened at Mahenjadaro.
Starting point is 00:29:26 We can speculate. To me, it seems like this airburst hypothesis seems pretty reasonable that somehow a asteroid or a meteor came into Earth's atmosphere, exploded, eviscerated all the people. They all died suddenly. And then you have people
Starting point is 00:29:39 that write about the text and write about the event and obviously will attribute it to whatever thing that they believe. It makes a lot of sense. But if you look at the pictures, they are just absolutely like crazy. I mean, seeing all these bodies
Starting point is 00:29:50 just strewn altogether. And again, I looked into this. I was like, maybe there's a massacre. Maybe there's a flood. Who knows? again, it seems like there's no real erosion pattern from flooding. They had great irrigation in the area. And furthermore, none of the bones had any type of trauma that would be consistent with some type of battle.
Starting point is 00:30:05 There's no arrowheads or broken bones or, you know, fractured tibias from some type of, you know, weapon going into them. It's very strange. And it seems like these types of giant comets or asteroids or a thing of the past, right? This happened, you know, 2000 BC. It's never going to happen again. Here's what makes this crazy. in 2004 researchers discovered something known as Apophis. This is a massive asteroid that's going to have a close Earth orbit in 2029,
Starting point is 00:30:33 and they predict could hit Earth in 2036. So we see these stories and we're like, oh, this was so far back in the day, there could be something coming up within the next 10, 15 years. We're going to get to that at the end, okay? But before we talk about any comets or any more space asteroids or anything like that, let's talk about some tsunamis. Yes, I'm talking about cities that were once thriving, bustling metropolises,
Starting point is 00:31:00 that then get sucked under the sea, all their wisdom lost forever. You know what I'm talking about. Atlantis, people. Yeah, we're talking about Atlantis. The famous city lost to the waves of the Atlantic Ocean. Now, I'll be honest, my dumb ass for the longest time, I thought Atlantis people were talking about like a city that people lived in underwater. I didn't know. Like I remember watching this movie.
Starting point is 00:31:24 You all remember this movie? Atlantis, the Lost Empire. It's a Disney movie. This was a banger. I watched this and I was like, oh, Atlantis is like a city where people live underwater and they had this chick in it. This is a little thickums,
Starting point is 00:31:36 this little Targaryen thickums. Yeah, this girl was a piece, dude. This girl in Chell from the road to El Dorado, sexual awakening. This girl was an absolute dime. Very tan for living underwater. But anyway, this is what I thought Atlantis was for like the longest time.
Starting point is 00:31:50 So I would hear people talk about Atlantis when I was like in high school and I was like, you guys believe there's a city where people are underwater? This is the dumbest thing I ever heard. But then I got to college, I started reading a little bit of Plato and I was like, oh, that's why this is so fascinating. So let me take you back, all right? Talking about the Greek philosopher Plato. You've heard of him.
Starting point is 00:32:08 You know him, you love him. He's got some hits. He basically writes this dialogue called Temaeus and Cretius around 360 BC. In it, Plato presents the story of Atlantis. And it's sort of disputed whether or not. this is a historical account, right? But basically, he lays down this idea that he got from his ancestor,
Starting point is 00:32:27 I think it was like his uncle, like six generations removed, this guy, Salon, who allegedly he heard the story from the Egyptians when he had traveled over to ancient Egypt. And basically, he describes this place known as Atlantis.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Atlantis is rich in culture and technology. It's thriving in a beautiful landscape of concentric rings of land and water with a majestic temple dedicated to Poseidon at its center. The people of Atlantis were initially noble and virtuous living in harmony and abundance. It was very busy. There was hundreds of people living on it, maybe thousands of people living in this area. There were descendants of Poseidon, the god of the sea.
Starting point is 00:33:03 He created ten kingdoms and they were prospering under divine laws. They were known for their engineering. They had a grand military. Their navy was impeccable. And they were able to seize and conquer people. They were just badasses. That's how it was described. They kind of saw them as like an enemy, Loki in Greece. They were like, whoa, watch out.
Starting point is 00:33:18 but the Atlanteans, they were sick. But as time passed, these Atlanteans became corrupt and greedy. Their desire for power grew, and they tried to expand their empire, conquering lands far and wide. Moral decay took over, and they lost favor with the gods. So Zeus, king of the gods, decided to punish them for their hubris and summoned a council of the gods to determine their fate. Unfortunately, the council was like, yeah, we got to smite these guys.
Starting point is 00:33:44 These gods, they love smiting the wicked people. I mean, look at this. A series of violent earthquakes and massive floods swept over the island, and in a single day and night of misfortune, Atlantis sank into the ocean, disappearing beneath the waves, a magnificent civilization with all its wealth and knowledge, lost forever to the seas.
Starting point is 00:34:04 And that's the story that Plato basically lays out. He says this is a story that he heard, like I said, from his uncle, from the Egyptians, that happened like 9,000 years before him, roughly like, I don't know, 12,000 years from our time, Now, what's pretty interesting about this is that you look at this, and if you look at Plato's record, he gives a general area of where this exists. This is based off Plato's account. He says that this ancient city of Atlantis that went under the water was beyond the pillars
Starting point is 00:34:34 of Hercules. Now, we know the pillars of Hercules today is what we would describe as the Strait of Gibraltar. We'll put it up on the screen here. This is just the little area between Spain and North Africa that kind of separates the Mediterranean from the Atlantic. This is known as the Strait of Gibraltar. So it's a big part of the ocean. He's basically describing the whole Atlantic Ocean. But this has not stopped people from speculating to try to find where the ancient city of Atlantis is.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Interesting. So one of the initial speculations is this submerged island of Spartel. This is one of the more compelling archaeological theories, I think, regarding the location of Atlantis. Spartel, the site aligns closely with Plato's description of Atlantis as beyond the pillars of Hercules. It's right on the outside of the Strait of Gibraltar. It's like right there. It's very reasonable to think that someone could sail over. Research conducted by the geophysicist Mark Goosher and others suggest that Spartel was submerged around 12,000 years ago. Interesting. Due to a series of catastrophic earthquakes and tsunamis, these natural disasters fit Plato's account of Atlantis' sudden disappearance beneath the
Starting point is 00:35:40 waves. Unfortunately, there's been no direct evidence of human habitation on Spartel itself. But the geological activity in the area supports the idea that the landmass could have existed above water and then submerged due to the changing climate and the sea levels. Proponents argue that the presence of a submerged landmass in a seismically active area enhances the plausibility of Plato's narrative, suggesting that the story of Atlantis might have been based on historical events that were distorted over time into the lengths that we know. Now, I'll be honest, in this region, the idea of a massive flood or some type of seismic event isn't unheard of. And there's actually record, again, this is documented record of a massive eruption that basically destroyed an entire society just south
Starting point is 00:36:23 of Greece in the Mediterranean, not long before Plato was writing. This is known as the Minoan eruption. This was a documented seismic event that wiped out the Minoans around 600 BC. Again, Plato was writing around 360 BC. This is 1600 BC, and it was one of the largest volcanic events in history. There's no clear ancient records of the eruption, but its plume and the volcanic lightning have been described by the Egyptian tempest steli. And it's even inscribed in the Chinese bamboo annals that report an unusual yellow sky and a summer frost at the beginning of the Shang Dynasty, which may have been a consequence of volcanic winter. So, again, we have records that there are actual seismic events that happen in the region that wipe out entire people groups? Is it possible that
Starting point is 00:37:10 Plato was basically making a metaphor based off of events that had happened in history to basically warn the Greek people that they should be a little bit more humble, that they shouldn't be so greedy, that they should pursue wisdom and justice? Or was it a real place that existed that he was describing beyond the strait of Gibraltar that actually went underwater? One of the other ones that's very interesting is what's known as Azores Plateau. This was brought up to me and I actually saw it from Randall Carlson, the great researcher. He describes an oceanic plateau between North America and Europe. You can see it right here on the map.
Starting point is 00:37:43 It's basically this little, you know, tectonic region that kind of makes the Atlantic Ocean a little bit shallower. And basically, researchers have gone to this region. It's a little farther west of the Strait of Gibraltar, but still not crazy out of the way. It seems like a seafaring people could have made it. And actually researchers went there into this region, Azores Plateau. and they dredged cobbles.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Cobbles, again, it's just a piece of stone. It's a little bit bigger than a pebble, that's smaller than a boulder, like the size of your fist. And they dredge them up. And what they found is that these cobbles were atmospherically lithified within the last 12,000 years.
Starting point is 00:38:22 So again, this suggests that this shallower part of the Atlantic may have been an island, may have actually been above the water fairly recently and not far from the Strait of Gibraltar. Again, they haven't found necessarily human inhabitants, but again, this is a landmass that seems like it was recently above water that is now submerged
Starting point is 00:38:40 not far from the Strait of Gibraltar. Now, I know what you're thinking, dude, this was 12,000 years ago. How are people sailing around 12,000 years ago? Here's where it gets even crazier. Okay, let me just bring up another interesting piece of anthropology. There are people, it seems like, even beyond 12,000, 15, 20,000 years ago that had the capability to sail. Now, when I say people, I'm using that term a little bit loosely. I'm going to bring up a, people group known as homo Florianzus. Now this was actually brought up to me by an anthropologist that I had on this show.
Starting point is 00:39:11 And this is basically people within the genus of us, Homo, not like the Sodom version, but just like actual, you know, basically like a common ancestor with Homo sapiens. And these were like small little hobbit people. If you look at a picture, I mean, this guy, I mean, I feel like I know dudes that look like this guy. I'm just saying these guys were small,
Starting point is 00:39:30 they were like three feet tall, and it seems like they actually knew how to sail. They were like hunter-gatherers. They were able to use weapons. Again, non-humans. They're not homo-sapians. They are just a common ancestor from us that existed on Earth. They have remains of them.
Starting point is 00:39:44 They're able to look at their actual skeletal records. And we can assert that based off where they exist in the Flores Mountains or the Flores region of Indonesia, that they were able to actually sail. So again, this idea that there were homo sapiens or actual human common ancestors living on the planet in this time that knew how to sail seems like there's a legit anthropological. record for it. Now, let's talk about one that's a little bit even crazier. Let's talk about a place that's not even in the water anymore. This is a place that is not near any water. This is what's known as the Rashat structure, aka the Eye of the Sahara. Now, this is not exactly, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:25 at rate where the, you know, pillars of Hercules are on the outside of the, you know, straight of Gibraltar. This is in what's modern day Mauritania, northwest Africa. Now this is basically a massive, massive feature of concentric circles. You can see it right here on the screen. It looks absolutely fascinating. And it basically seems to look exactly like Plato's description of the ancient city of Atlantis. Now, this would go back to a theory that in this time, this is the Green Sahara theory or the African Humid period, that around five or six thousand years ago, it's possible that this part of the Sahar was actually lush, that there was a ton of vegetation, that there was actually fresh water, and there was lakes and rivers all going through this area.
Starting point is 00:41:07 And it's very possible that this actual feature in this part of the desert might have been surrounded by water. And you can see here on this little heat map that certain areas would have been actually elevated and certain areas would have been smaller and actually under the water, making exactly what Plato was describing. It's pretty crazy. I'll be honest. I mean, this feature is visible from space. Astronauts actually used to use it. as a metric for where they were on the globe. It's about 25 miles in diameter. It's pretty big. It's much bigger than
Starting point is 00:41:35 Plato describes. I think Plato describes Atlantis' five states, which is actually we ever get the term stadium. This was the size of like a, you know, a Greek stadium. He called it about five states. This is 25 miles. This is massive, way bigger than what, you know, Plato would have described
Starting point is 00:41:51 Atlantis has. But maybe, you know, he got a translation from a translation. Maybe he shrunk it down. Who knows? All we can say is that we look at this structure and it's absolutely compelling. I mean, it looks fascinating. Regardless of whatever it is, you know, you look at it and you're like, what happened here? I mean, what is this thing? Archaeologists have looked around the region and there is a presence of prehistoric artifacts such as stone tools and remnants of ancient settlements in the vicinity, again, indicating this region was once home to a thriving community. Was this Atlantis or was this just a different community in the region? Who's to say? Advocates for the Roshat structure as the site of Atlantis point to the similarities of the geoling. formation. Again, Plato describes Atlantis as being circular with a series of rings and land, and this Rasha structure looks like if it was filled with water, it looks like, you know, rings of water
Starting point is 00:42:39 and land. Pretty wild. I don't know exactly what to make of it. But people have talked about cities that have been submerged for years. Like I said, every single society and culture around the world has a flood myth. So Atlantis is the one that people in the West specifically have been captivated by. It's been kind of brought up in pop culture since like the 1800s, people trying to search for Atlantis. And there's actually a feature that I want to talk to you about, off the coast of Japan. This is another contested area that people don't know if this is some type of man-made submerged city. This is known as the Yonaguni Monument. This is located off the coast of Yonaguni Island in Japan, and it sparked a considerable debate
Starting point is 00:43:18 amongst archaeologists and geologists regarding its origin. Discovered in 1986 by a local diver, the structure features a series of terraced platforms, straight edges and flat services that closely resemble architectural elements such as steps, walls, and roads. I mean, just look at these pictures here. It looks crazy. Again, like, you look at it, and if you're just a diver, you're like, dude, someone for sure built that, right? Like, this is the steps to a courthouse. Like, it's crazy. It looks like so rigid, it's so straight. And again, this has been a ton of debate. I'm not an archaeologist, so I can't figure out what this is. But different people have proposed different ideas. The Japanese marine geologist Masaki Kimura has been a
Starting point is 00:43:56 prominent advocate for the theory that the Yonaguni monument was created by humans. He argues that the regular shapes and precise orientations of the formations suggest intentional construction dating back thousands of years. He has identified what he believes to be carvings, tools, and stone structures that resemble temples and roads. And his theories, of course, have garnered significant attention, particularly because this is a monument that is underwater. Again, it almost looks like a quarry to me. It seems like maybe this was above water at some time when people were using it to quarry out, you know, stone or something that they were using for features on land.
Starting point is 00:44:30 I got to look into that and see if maybe they used it on land in Japan or something. I don't know. I mean, similar to the quarries you see in ancient Egypt. But many geologists, including Robert Schock, argued that the formations are completely natural, created by tectonic activity and erosion of sedimentary rock. Shock and others have pointed out that similar formations can be found in other locations around the world
Starting point is 00:44:50 where geological processes have created flat-step services that mimic the appearance of man-made structures. I mean, similar to the Devil's Tower in Wyoming. I mean, look at this tower. And you can look at it and be like, yo, these are pretty crazy features that form naturally just up this giant mountain. You know, it's pretty straight edges.
Starting point is 00:45:06 They're kind of in uniform shape. If you looked at it, you'd be like, oh, people must have made this. But nope, that's completely natural, just a regular, strange geological phenomenon. Maybe this is the same thing. I don't know. I bring this up just to say
Starting point is 00:45:19 that the Yonaguni monument continues to intrigue researchers and adds to a broader discussion of whether or not cities that once existed on land could be completely submerged. I mean, we look at Venice today. I mean, Venice, Italy. It'll be underwater in like five years. I mean, it's crazy, right?
Starting point is 00:45:34 So what's wild about Atlantis is that now we're getting kind of into the crazy woo-woo world, all right? But fortunately for you, I'm a comedian. I'm not a research or anything, so I'll go there. You know what I mean? I don't care. I don't give a shit. There's been some crazy theories that have been posited by, like, mystics and occultists that apparently have done seances and rituals to try to convene with the people.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Some people believe that the Atlanteans were actually supernatural, or maybe they were aliens or something. There's this woman, Helena Blavatsky. She's a Russian mystic and a founder of the Theosophical Society. And she wrote, kind of in the early 1900s, about this idea of root races. All right, this is going to be some racist-ass bullshit here, but I'll tell you what she said.
Starting point is 00:46:16 She basically says that during the fourth round of Earth, higher beings descended to the planet with the beginnings of human physical bodies developing and the sexes separating. At this point, the fourth root race appeared living on the continent of Atlantis. They had physical bodies, but they also had psychic powers in advanced technology. She claimed that some of the Atlanteans were giants and built such ancient monuments such as Stonehenge in southern England, and they also mated with what she called she animals. resulting in the creation of gorillas and chimpanzees.
Starting point is 00:46:51 The Atlanteans were decadent and abused their power and knowledge, so Atlantis sunk into the sea, although various Atlanteans escaped and created new societies in Egypt and the Americas. I'm just saying she says that she got this from doing some type of ritual or something, and she believes she tapped in with the mystical powers of the world, and that's what she says happens. I don't really buy it. Pretty wild to me.
Starting point is 00:47:14 But she's not the only one. Some people even floated the idea that Plato and the Egyptians before him were talking about the famous societies in the America, specifically Central America, the Maya and the Aztecs. As people began discovering these famous cities existing in Central America, some people suggest, oh, maybe this is who they were talking about. Maybe people had traversed the Atlantic before, long before, and they had actually seen these massive cities of Chichen Itzal and Chichen Itikal, these famous pyramids that exist in Mesoamese. America. And these theorists imagine that, you know, maybe there was some cataclysmic destruction of Atlantis and the survivors made a perilous journey across the Atlantic Ocean and they reached Central America. Or maybe they had just gone there and they've reported back that this was a fascinating, bustling city that had a strong Navy. Again, there's no real archaeological record
Starting point is 00:48:04 to support this, but different people over the years have posited these ideas. Some people even think that Atlantis is in Antarctica. Yeah. 1974, Flavio Berbario. This guy, I mean, awesome name, first off, and secondly, awesome theory. I'd be the guy that'd be like, did you check Antarctica? Apparently, he believes that this theory that Atlantis is beneath the ice of Antarctica.
Starting point is 00:48:26 This theory aligns with a broader hypothesis that a prehistoric civilization could be lost beneath the ice, preserved in a state of frozen suspension. Proponents argue that around 13,000 years ago, a pole shift or a change in the Earth's rotational axis could have dramatically moved Atlantis to what is now Antarctica,
Starting point is 00:48:44 causing a rapid and severe climate change that plummeted the continent into a deep freeze. The idea is partly based on what's known as the Perry-Rees map. If you look at it, this is a 16th century map that some people believe shows an ice-free Antarctic coastline, suggesting that ancient civilizations might have had knowledge of Antarctica before it was covered in ice. Again, it seems like the regularly accepted record is that Antarctica has been covered in ice for thousands and thousands and thousands of years. but some people say, hey, look at the Paraguese map. It looks like it was a relatively lush area that people could have lived in somewhat recently.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Again, most of these maps back in the day were just taken from other maps and taken from other maps. It was like sampling, like a rap song or something. Like they would just take little bits from other maps and put it together and add to their map. So who's to say if they actually knew? To me, I look at it and I'm like, it seems like maybe he's talking about South America.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Again, I don't know. But this theory comes from this idea that maybe the Paragris map shows in Antarctica was not always covered in ice. And then perhaps the city of Atlantis is there, and that with the plate shifting and the actual continents moving around, maybe they moved much faster.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Maybe this was a little bit closer. Antarctica might have been farther north, but some type of giant cataclysmic event actually moved it farther south and covered it in ice. What kind of cataclysmic event would do that? Might be something known as the Younger Dryas Impact Theory. Now, this is fascinating, this idea,
Starting point is 00:50:12 because it ties in a little bit with Atlantis, but also ties in with basically what we know about human civilization altogether. The Younger Dryest Impact Theory basically says that there was advanced human civilization long, long before human beings thought possible. Again, beyond 5,000, 6,000 years ago.
Starting point is 00:50:33 There might have been some type of cataclysmic event, perhaps a meteor strike, or multiple comet strikes that then explode over the earth, creating tsunamis, and basically creating, a great reset on earth, wiping away all of our knowledge, all of our civilization, and making us effectively restart back at square one. Again, these records seem to be supported in a lot of our religious scripture from around the world, from all different cultures spanning from America to Australia.
Starting point is 00:50:59 So like I said, every society has a different myth about some type of flood, right? You have the epic of Gilgamesh. You have the Bible story of Noah's Ark. You have the native traditions of world destruction. Such stories often feature some type of divine warning, a catastrophic flood, and the survival of a chosen few reflecting a common theme of moral retribution and renewal. Some people actually propose that these myths have a basis in an actual historical event. This theory posits that a series of comet impacts around 12,000 years ago caused massive climate changes leading to widespread flooding and the potential destruction of advanced prehistoric civilization, possibly including. Atlantis. Remember, when we talk about Atlantis getting destroyed, Plato said it was 9,000
Starting point is 00:51:43 years before him, which then would put it around 12,000 years from us today, which happens to line up with the Younger Dryas Impact Theory. Again, if this was maybe that little island that I had mentioned off the coast of Estrada Gibraltar or in the Azores Plateau, it would make sense that now it would be completely covered and all the remnants of that society would be gone forever. The Younger Dryest Impact Theory is absolutely fascinating to me for a couple of reasons. One, it's pretty much accepted based off everything that I've read. Like I said, I'm no archaeologist. But it seems like we kind of accept that written record and kind of our hunter-gatherer societies turned into more agrarian societies maybe 6,000, 5,000 years ago. I mean, if we look at like
Starting point is 00:52:25 Kuneiform tablets created by the Sumerians, some of our earliest, earliest surviving actual pieces of written text, maybe date to around 4,500,000, 5,000 years ago, something like that. until we found out about this place called Gobeckli-Tepe. Now this is a place that is absolutely mind-blowing. This was discovered in Turkey, not too long ago, what's known as modern-day Turkey. And this area known as Gobeckley-Tepe
Starting point is 00:52:51 is this ancient ruin. It is pretty big, it's massive, and they carbon dated it to around 11,000 or 12,000 years ago. Now, this is something that prior to this discovery, no one would have believed that hunter-gatherers with their primitive tools would actually be able to create an organized society
Starting point is 00:53:12 with art and some type of, you know, engineering ability to actually create these giant T-stones. I mean, I'll show you a picture right here of the T-stones that are found at Gobeckley-Tepe. Now, these T-stones are massive. They weigh a ton. They have to be quarried from nearby and put up into the ground, etched out.
Starting point is 00:53:30 The whole ground has to be perfectly level. I mean, it's a massive engineering feat that people did not believe our ancient ancestors could have done 12,000 years ago. The discovery of Gobeckley-Tepa is pretty recent. We don't know exactly who the people were that built it or why they built it or what they used it for. The pillar that's most interesting to me
Starting point is 00:53:46 is the one that Graham Hancock points out, known as Pillar 43, also known as the Vulture Stone. Graham Hancock asserts that this vulture stone might actually encode astronomical alignments or even record significant celestial events. He believes that the positions of various animals on the pillars could represent different constellations. Again, look at the pillars here.
Starting point is 00:54:08 You can see the different animals that are actually etched into the sides of these pillars. It's just absolutely fascinating and beyond anything that human beings thought could have been done 12,000 years ago. His interpretation suggests that the vulture represents Sagittarius and that the scorpion represents Scorpio.
Starting point is 00:54:24 This interpretation suggests that the site builders had sophisticated understanding of the night sky. Again, something that people did not believe was possessable 12,000 years ago. Again, this is, something that people would have assumed would have been around around the time of ancient Egypt, maybe 4,000, you know, 3,500 years ago.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Now, an archaeologist that I love that I watch a lot on YouTube, mini-minute man, he's an independent archaeologist that goes around and just does awesome videos going through a bunch of different sites all of the world. He went to Gobeckle-Tepa. And he describes exactly what he sees. And his indication of these sort of lithographs kind of like put into the stone that's carved out, he suggests that it might be a calendar based on. not the celestial bodies, but actually the bodies of animals around.
Starting point is 00:55:08 So if you look at them, there's not a ton of like mystical sphinxes or, you know, some type of chimera or anything like that. They're all real animals that exist in the region. Leopards, cranes, things like that. And he suggests that perhaps the different animals correspond with an actual calendar that's related to each other. So, for example, cranes arrive in the wet season. And scorpions arrive in the wet season. So when you get a crane or a scorpion coming into the region, you can say, oh, it's time for the wet season. And these are the animals that we can expect to see.
Starting point is 00:55:39 And this is a way you can pass on knowledge and tradition for thousands and thousands of years. And then on the other ones, you have wild boars and leopards. That might correspond with the dry season. And you can look at these and make some type of suggestion to say, oh, this is what's going to be happening. And it's able to keep track of time. When you see the cranes arriving, you can make an ascertation as to what time of year it is. And so it is a form of record-keeping, but not tied to the celestial bodies. Again, most archaeologists don't recognize that people in this time would have had that type of technology.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Hancock links the construction of Gobeckley-Tepe to the end of the younger driest period, again, around 12,000 years ago. He speculates that this period was marked by a global cataclysm, possibly caused by a comic impact or airburst, which drastically altered the climate and led to widespread destruction. He argues that Gobeckley-Tepe's carving in construction could reflect a crucial, cultural memory of such a catastrophic event preserved by a society with advanced knowledge. All this to say, I am not a geologist. I'm not, and I'm just a dumb comedian, all right? I don't know exactly what I'm talking about. I'm just fascinated by this kind of stuff, and I love reading about ancient history and ancient cities that just got wiped off the face of the earth. So I would implore you to look into more legit sources. I mean, read up on this stuff, look at YouTube videos.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Like I said, Mini Minuteman is excellent. He has a lot of really interesting resources. Randall Carlson, Graham Hancock, all these guys are extremely smart, extremely well researched. I mean, I think Randall Carlson has a 16-hour podcast just on Atlantis itself and all of Plato's recordings and all the potential places it could be. So I implore you, if you're interested in the way that I am, I would check out some of your own research, go through some of those sources. I'm just using this as an opportunity to geek out on the shit I think is cool. You look at some of these things like the Younger Dryus Impact Theory and you think, wow, if some type of cataclysmic event a comet, a tsunami, just crash into the world. It could create a devastating ripple that could change
Starting point is 00:57:35 human society. And it wouldn't even have to be that big. I mean, if you think, like, you know, a one-kilometer-sized comet hitting Earth, I mean, it could drastically change all of the agriculture on our planet, especially if we were just a smaller hunter-gather society or even an early agrarian society, you've got to think, oh, if there's no more crops growing because we're in some type of volcanic winter or a meteor-induced winter, what does that do? to human society? I mean, do we all just plummet? Does only a couple thousand people survive? And they have to repopulate and they have to rebuild all of the knowledge and advanced societies that we once had? It doesn't seem crazy to me. But what does seem crazy is this idea that it could happen again.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Now, we have to think, the Younger Darius Impact Theory happened around 12,000 years ago, if we believe that theory. And it's been about 12,000 years since we've had another massive cataclysm. Like I said, we've had smaller ones. We can look at things like Sodom and Gamora. We can look at this event that happened in Pakistan. We can look at the Tunguska event that happened in Siberia. These are all smaller meteoric events. But what if there was another one? What if there was a massive meteor flying around in space right now that was on track to hit Earth? Well, it turns out there is, kind of. Let me explain. There is right now a giant asteroid circling the sun known as Apophis. Now, Apophis was discovered in 2004, named conveniently after the ancient Egyptian god of death.
Starting point is 00:59:02 This was a sneaky serpent in ancient Egypt that hated light and truth and dwelt in total darkness. Kind of like an asteroid. It's about the size of the Rose Bowl. That's how big this asteroid is. Imagine the Rose Bowl. Here's a picture of it. This is how big this asteroid is, flying around space. And it's not just cruising.
Starting point is 00:59:19 This thing is going 67,000 miles an hour. I mean, this is basically the Empire State Building in diameter. This is a massive, massive asteroid. And researchers in 2004 discovered that it might collide with Earth on the 13th of April, 2029. Friday the 13th. Now, they give it a 2.7% chance of hitting us, and I think even more current reports show that it's even smaller than that.
Starting point is 00:59:45 But it will pass extremely closely to Earth. It'll be visible from one end of Australia. It'll zoom over the Indian Ocean, pass over the equator, over Africa. it's going to go over Western Europe. I'm sure people probably got like hotels or Airbnb's to go catch it. Again, this is 2029. It's not projected to hit Earth, but what's interesting is that based off its very close flight path to Earth's gravity, that could affect the spin of the asteroid. Now, affecting the spin could affect where it goes in the future. Now what's fascinating is that they do project that it will be back on Earth's orbital path
Starting point is 01:00:23 seven years later in 2036 on the same exact day, April 13th. It's not exactly certain if this will hit Earth. It's a pretty low probability. But if it did, it could be devastating. To give you an idea, the nuclear bomb that was dropped over Hiroshima was 0.15 megatons. Now, this giant asteroid that hit Arizona and this giant meteor crater that you can look right here, this packed maybe like five to ten megatons of energy.
Starting point is 01:00:55 If Apophis hits Earth, it will hit us with 880 megatons of energy. That is crazy. Now, fortunately, it's projected that if it were to hit Earth, it would likely hit into the Pacific Ocean. Now, you're probably thinking, oh, nice, that's great. news. Not exactly because what happens if it hits the ocean? It will crash into the Pacific ocean going three miles down, sending massive tidal waves in every direction. The water will then come back into the chasm that it creates, shoot up into the sky, and then go back out, casting again
Starting point is 01:01:31 40 to 50 tsunamis. This would go all over the world. The first place that would be a hit, likely the western part of America. That's right. Santa Monica. Gone. Sorry, hippies. If you got like West Coast real estate, I'm just saying, I'm a Florida kid, I'm a northeasterner now, I'm fine with that. We don't need an heroin, a coffee shop on every corner, all right? Some of y'all can go. I'm just saying, if this thing were to hit the Pacific Ocean,
Starting point is 01:02:00 that's exactly what would happen. It would come all the way through the West Coast of America, massive tsunamis wiping out tons and tons of residential homes, expensive real estate, submerging tons of it into the water. It would be unlike anything we have ever seen ever in recorded history. I mean, this thing would be absolutely massive. Now, fortunately, this is not necessarily a species ending event. But if it was like a kilometer long, that could be. It could send us into some type of prolonged winter, change all the food that we eat,
Starting point is 01:02:33 affect supply lines. I mean, this could massively change the trajectory of our species. And if it's 10 kilometers, that is an extinction level event. I mean, that's what happened to the dinosaurs. It's about 10 kilometers wide. So you gotta think, if this thing happens to hit Earth, massively changes the way that I think we look at space and how we interact with the things above us. Like I said, if this were to happen, it wouldn't be the first time.
Starting point is 01:03:01 People living every single day, back in the day, you lived in, you know, you were a Minoan. Maybe you lived in Sodom. Whoops. Maybe you just, you know, lived in Atlantis. out of nowhere, a giant cataclysmic event comes in and destroys everything that you've ever known, every person you've ever met, every person you've ever loved, your dog, your cat, your hamster. Maybe your bird survives. They could probably fly away. But your entire way of life changes in an instant.
Starting point is 01:03:30 It's pretty crazy to think that it could happen again. And it's pretty crazy to think that it has happened in the past. I look back at these stories and it just makes me think like, what the hell is going on. And it also makes me think if it were to happen again to that level, let's say five kilometer asteroid comes, wipes away everything we know, massive tsunamis all over the world.
Starting point is 01:03:51 New York City, gone, all of the building swept away, turned back into sand. The internet is gone, our power grid is gone. We have to restart and what kind of knowledge would we lose
Starting point is 01:04:01 if something like that were to happen again? How do we preserve that knowledge? I mean, it's not crazy to think that if we had a massive event and only 2,000 people survived, we would basically be restarting from zero. And people would probably write about these things and talk about how the wickedness of the people of earth
Starting point is 01:04:16 caused us to have this massive cataclysmic event. And maybe they'd be right. I don't know. Let me know what you think. Thank you guys so much for tuning in. This has been an episode of Camp, tent talks. I've had a lot of fun researching this. I hope you guys enjoyed listening to it.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Comment below if I made a huge mistake or if I fuck something up or if I mispronounce something or if I said something that was completely wrong, I'm sorry in advance. I'm a dumb guy. I'm a comedian. I don't know what I'm talking about. I'll see you guys next time.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Peace.

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