Camp Gagnon - Partying At The Wildest House In America w/ Mike Busey

Episode Date: November 7, 2022

My name is Mark Gagnon and I do a podcast called Flagrant with Andrew Schulz, Akaash Singh, and AlexxMedia. This is a my solo project where I try and talk to the most interesting people in the world. ...I hope you enjoy it as much as I do. Welcome to camp.Mike Busey is the owner of The Sausage Castle outside of Orlando, an 80-acre adult Disneyland. Since opening he's partied with Waka Flocka Flame, Post Malone, and David Blaine, and I had to pull up and Party At The Wildest House In America. Thi...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The man known for hosting wild parties full of sex and guns has a new home. A place where people party. And fired guns. It's more than just my house. It's a way of life. We're no different from a regular family. We just look weird and different. Just because we like women and guns doesn't make us a bad person.
Starting point is 00:00:18 So, I had to see it for myself. Welcome to the wildest party house in America. 80 acres of everything you could imagine. This is the guy behind him, Mike Busey. Mike invited me to his biggest party of the year, and there was no way I was turning that down. I mean, his house is crazy, and I'm stoked to sit down with the man behind the magic.
Starting point is 00:00:42 Needless to say, this guy's life is fascinating. And today, he's going to tell us how he was raised with literal monkeys, how he makes so much money, and why the government allegedly burned down his house. This is his story. Welcome to Cam. Mike Bucy, aka Mike Ward, a.k.a. Tuna. There's a lot of AKs. A lot of AKs, too, right behind you. I like that. I like that. Right. Bro, thank you so much for, first off, being here and, like,
Starting point is 00:01:08 hanging with me and chopping it up. This is going to be so cool. And secondly, thank you so much for the party last night. Did you have a good time? It was amazing. Last night was pretty cool, man. Anything that sticks out in your mind? A lot of things that are, I mean, first off, this is impressive. This place is, like, is remarkable. Then you, obviously, being this mastermind behind the whole thing is also impressive. Thank you. I mean, you've done so many things. You've seen a lot of stuff. You've stories, people coming through, partying, a lot of stuff that I want to get to. But for right now, I guess, reflecting on yesterday. Yeah, we saw. Shall we reflect? Yeah, let's reflect, dude. I saw three men have sex with a pumpkin. Was there just three? You might be right. That was impressive. That was, that was, why the pumpkin sex? Why did that happen? I don't know. I think I've always had very big, wild, crazy parties. I've been doing this whole thing for 23 plus years.
Starting point is 00:02:01 But I think it was like 2002 or something that I put on the flyers a joke. Like, you know how you like these corny like promo flyers like, yo blah blah blah is going to be there. And I put pumpkin fucking Joe appearing live at the sausage castle. And it was so stupid. But it got talked about a lot. Is it a real person? No, I just made it up.
Starting point is 00:02:24 I was like, let's put it on the flyer. And then we never actually had anyone. start fucking pumpkins till a couple years ago. Yeah. And when you're doing what we do and you're doing it so long, sometimes the most trivial things get you excited, you know, minus all the other things that goes into everything. We're like, no, man.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Me and my guy, Miguel Colon Jr., we're always just like, hey, let's get some people fucking pumpkins. And then if they bust, we'll give them $1,000. And has anyone? My CPA would like to say, currently no one has collected the bounty, no. But we definitely have gotten stressed
Starting point is 00:03:02 a couple times. Me, me get up, like, oh, my God. Make sure my buddy Doug Roberts, we're like, yo, cut those holes small and square. We're not just going to give you this. Yeah, yeah, no free money. It started like, so we have these things
Starting point is 00:03:16 called Members Weekend. So if you're a member of my site, you sign up, it's kind of like if you were subscribed to an OnlyFans check, except not only sending photos of her She let you come camp at her house for three days, and it's like this whole itinerary. Yeah, you can't camp at OnlyFans girls' house for three days.
Starting point is 00:03:33 I try to tell them, like, yo, motherfucker, go see you fucking Logan Paul's letting you camp at this house for three fucking days. Now, you get arrested for that. Yeah, stocking. So we try to create an experience to where they get to not only watch our content, but they get to experience a content in person. Okay, so can you explain to me where we are right now? What is this compound and what things are?
Starting point is 00:03:55 Are there? Like, let's say this is an HD TV show. How would you, what would be the voiceover when going through the house? The sausage castle, aka the wildest house in America, an 80-acre estate, often referred to as like an adult Disney world. Yes. Playboy Mansion-esque slash like wild ratchet redneck. There's a lot of shit thrown into the recipe. Yeah. And anything and everything you could want to do, consensually, is here.
Starting point is 00:04:23 And it is, it's a. And it's a dull playground. I don't know. I would say we have every single recreational activity you could possibly think of. I was blown away by how many things. You have like a full-blown wrestling ring? From WrestleMania 3, actually. From the actual WrestleMania?
Starting point is 00:04:40 The actual ring from WrestleMania 3. How did you get that? I bought it for an employee as a gift because he was really heavy into wrestling. And then I was like, well, we got to fucking have a wrestling match. Yeah. As we found it on Facebook Marketplace, which is one of my addictions, I just like, oh, there's this wrestle ring in his trailer park about an hour from here. And I didn't know that it was titled that, like, yo, this is WrestleMania 3 ring to the.
Starting point is 00:05:05 And some random redneck dude was, you know, had it set up behind his trailer. And I guess the HOA or something. The trailer park HOA is were, they were clamping down that week. They're strict, actually. I've heard about that, the trailer park HOA. So like, got to get it out here. And we were able to get it at a very good price. And what's a good price?
Starting point is 00:05:23 What's a good price for a ride? wrestling. This one, I would turn to my guy, Miguel, there's a lot of stressful conversations. Like, did you really have to buy a scrambler? You know, like... Oh, yeah, you guys, buy the garage. I have the giant carnival scrambler. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Like, a 20... We're gonna see. Can you say, hard sea? The hard sea? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we're allowed to use that term. Yeah, okay. I think it's people of carnival is what most people say, but...
Starting point is 00:05:47 They call themselves showmen. Oh, really? There's like a whole, like, we've had... We've been in the last couple years immersed. into the showman realm of carnival culture. It is something that well, it's made for TV, let's say that.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Well, you are a showman. I believe that. So we have the wrestling ring. You have these giant like 10,000 square foot warehouse things. There's four, 10,000 square foot warehouses. There's like a fun house. There's a whole full shop. We fabricate, build, paint, upholster, solder, anything like,
Starting point is 00:06:18 you, I need a rocket and it's going to have balls on it. And my guy, my whole team will build that. And then we have, you know, just we have a campground we have a track as you can tell I haven't been walking around as much as I should have been yeah yeah a basketball court tennis court batting cage funkers I mean insane like and no disrespect if I it's like basically if you can imagine as a 14 year old what you would want in your house you have that and more well there's the whole like you know the manifestation of you know what you really sought after and sometimes
Starting point is 00:06:51 I look around and I'm like oh shit I always is one of the wall full of guns. And then you don't really realize it until you later on. You're like, oh, shit. Like, kind of like put that into the universe and it kind of happened. You know, so. And you're just building all the things you've always wanted. Yeah, it's, it's, uh, you know, I, I, I lived in trailer parks, foster homes.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Yeah, yeah, break that down. Your upbringing is very interesting to me. Yeah, it's like, uh, you know, you're living in a foster home. And then, you know, you don't know that it's, you're getting shamed because you're wearing, you know, shitty Walmart clothes, which we're talking back in the day Walmart shit. Now that shit's looking amazing. The Mosimo? Have you been wearing Mosimo from Walmart? That shit is nice.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Well, there's a lot of... When I was younger, I would definitely, like, had a bitterness towards, like, kids that had money and, like, I'm like, oh, he got the motherfucking new Jays. Fuck him. He don't like Michael Jordan. I'm over here fucking cutting newspaper clips out and fucking, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:46 it's just everything you ever wanted and ever thought you could probably never own, but if you really want it, you just do it. Yeah. And I've been very fortunate, you know, coming from nothing, and now I'm blessed beyond belief. So
Starting point is 00:08:01 I've dedicated my entire life to sharing my day-to-day life with the world and hopes that it gives them some type of escape from the harsh realities of their life. Yeah, absolutely. Your girlfriend doesn't suck your dick no more. Watch, go to mybeza.com, and maybe you'll feel better about it. Okay, I'm curious about the
Starting point is 00:08:17 upbringing, though. So you, born in New Orleans, move around a bunch, and then I get put into foster care. How did that happen and why were you put in foster care? My dad was trying to shoot my dog, R.I.P. Rambo, RIP, Rambo, Chinese Charpe. And we were at the time living in a small little townhouse thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Right off Orange Blossom Trail. If you know the Trail, the prostitutes are really getting good out there. Obt. Yeah, OBT. Shout out to all my Central Floridians. But when we were, it was just one late night. my dad had a few too many to drink and he, I guess my dog would like protect me. And anytime someone was like looking aggressive, he would like, he tried to bite my dad.
Starting point is 00:09:01 He's like, that's it. Getting the gun out. And then, um, me and my sister were like, no, but it was all. I mean, the thing is, it's like that shit was fucking traumatic as a child, you know, but then when you didn't die and, you know, I'm an 80s baby, 80s baby. I got my ass fucking beat. Yeah. You know, like there was no political correctness to it.
Starting point is 00:09:21 It's like, all right, that one's going to. cost you boy like you know alcohol and drugs probably definitely had something to do with the family you know
Starting point is 00:09:29 and then I look at it now I'm like yo my parents were fucking you know in their fucking 20s I'm like I'm looking at degenerates to come hang out here
Starting point is 00:09:37 there's there's girls that come here for five six years and we're like wait a you have kids like what the fuck you have three of them where are they crazy you know
Starting point is 00:09:44 and so so your dad that stuff I don't know who actually my biological father is so this was a stepdag that shot your dog there was a captain's
Starting point is 00:09:52 Abo-ho, my dad was trying to get some pussy. He warmed up to my mom. And then she was pregnant. She was trying to sell a shih Tzu in the newspaper to buy one of those oboos. And I guess... For you? Yes. She was trying to kill me.
Starting point is 00:10:08 What? She was trying to sell this dog. Symboling. R-I-P-chingling. And she met this woman. And she was like, no, you should keep it. Maybe I'll adopt your child. and I guess my dad
Starting point is 00:10:23 The guy I call my dad He I guess he needed some pussy You know I don't normally look for a pregnant woman If I'm looking to go out into the dating field But I guess he was just like all right And then you know
Starting point is 00:10:37 Years later I mean I still I call him my dad But you know that's you know I feel like you don't necessarily have to be related To be family Right So your biological mom Pregnant with you
Starting point is 00:10:47 Trying to have an abortion Yeah Tries to sell the Shih Tzu Meets a woman goes No, no, he's a good guy in your belly. Don't abort him. And y'all see this big ass head? They had, you know, the foot up on the count, the foreseps, the salad tongs, pulling a big eye.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Back then, I was like literally a medical malpractice, like a fucking dream come true for a lawyer. I just, you know, back then you didn't, you could fucking diet, you know, show his pizza. And it's like, yeah, whatever, a kid, little walk it off. Yeah. You know. And you were just coming into the world, just ripping. Yeah. And I think a lot of that stuff had a little Peter Panor, sent him.
Starting point is 00:11:21 I'm trying to, you know, I live in reality, but then I also, I think and I imagine things differently. I process things differently. So we have a thing called a dream hand because me and my guy, Miguel, we would have times where we would get in like some very heated conversations and he was like the voice of reason. I'm like, no, bro, come on. We totally should have this swan and dolphin statue here. did da da da da and uh and i found that when we raised her hand everyone has to respect the room like okay
Starting point is 00:11:55 this guy's about to say whatever the fuck is about to fall of his ass right and then we found the way to be productive with it start on some crazy ass like you're going to get this hot air balloon right and then we we come back to reality and a lot of times uh you know that's what i've done i've just said fuck it i'm going to do what i want to do and i'm going to go for the fence and having You know, not having shit handed to you in life will definitely give you a chip on your shoulder. Yeah. And the work ethic. Because I have become my father in many ways, all this shit that he would say that you dreaded.
Starting point is 00:12:30 And you're like, every day, I'm like, oh, my God, he was right. Fuck, I've become him. So you go from foster care. I was only in foster care for like a year and a half. Oh, really? Okay. Where was that? Was that in Florida?
Starting point is 00:12:43 I was actually South Carolina. Okay. Near Monks Corner. Okay, yeah, yeah. Bono. Okay. So you're there in foster care. There's seven monkeys in this house.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Wait, well, why's fine? There's, there's like, the foster parents were totally trying to get some checks. They were stacking them up. There was bunk beds and everything, you know, every day a new cave would come, and then one would run away. And then, like, it was like almost kind of like being in juvie, but like, you know, we would eat Taco Bell every night. And there was seven monkeys living there and all these other crazy animals. Like literal monkeys. Yeah, like, there was a baboon.
Starting point is 00:13:17 You ever been in a fist fight with a baboon at the age of 13? No. Because the motherfucker is trying to take your Taco Bell? The shit's serious. And you're in a whole other house with all these other degenerates. How many other kids are in the foster? This person has been abused sexually, mentally, physically. I had a buddy in there. His name's Chad Labuti.
Starting point is 00:13:37 If you're out there, Chadabootie, I'd love to see if you're still alive. I don't know. But when he came in, I was like, it's kind of like, yeah, so what are you in for? And he's like, my mother shot my dad at the dinner table. and he's just like just stares like kind of having his little little Vietnam ship Vietnam flashback and I'm just like oh man that sucks and like what about you oh my dad just was getting crazy and abusive shot our dog yeah he didn't actually shoot him but he he definitely tried to scare us I don't know if
Starting point is 00:14:03 he was just drunk at bad aim or he was trying to send a message to the dog he actually shot the gun though yeah oh yeah cops came everything did you see it uh yeah oh wild but um and how old are you at the time when before that I was very like at that time like 13ish Okay. Yeah. And so were you like kind of timid? Like was your dad like kind of wild and made you reserved? Or were you kind of a punk and you want to like, you were going out of it? Don't. Let's not like, you know, I was definitely being a wild child, sneaking out, doing all kinds of dumb, stupid shit. Yeah. Forest fires, you know, you fire dad's porn mag and you go out to the woods, you jack off with your friends, you wrap it up in a trash bag and you bury it like a time capsule. All these motherfuckers now, they got their iPhones. They live in a world now that, you know, they don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:47 how hard it was to download. You ever jacked off a dial-up? You're younger to me. No. That's crazy. Never in my life. You've lived in a world where internet was there.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Yes, that's true. Me and my generation, I feel like we're fucking jazz. Like, dude, DM somebody. You kidding me? I'm hearing AOL chat rooms of fucking seven in the morning like a crackhead talking age, sex location pick.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Never did that, bro. I got an eye touch when I was seven, which is ironic because that's exactly what I did. Okay, wait. So you are with you. your parents. You're with your biological mom. My mom. Then like, stay with grandpa. And then like
Starting point is 00:15:23 some other lady. Why couldn't you stay with your mom? Like, what was her deal with it? Well, like, she married the really crazy redneck dude named James. And this guy like literally drank Mountain Dew like intravenously. Honeycone NASCAR wrestling. Yeah. And we would like, me and some, we were, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:39 bigger guys and we were, you know, try to beat him up and fight them. Because when your mom was like single, you know, you're trying to hustle every dude that's coming over trying to fuck her. Like, yo, that's going to cost you a whole box of basketball cards player. We can just brush us under the rug, you know. Like, you're just extorting guys trying to fuck your mom. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:56 You know, and every no, I get a little come up, a little lick every now and then, you know. Robbing the guys that are hanging in your mind. No, no, just like, hey, hey, listen, we really want to, you know, go to this thing. And, you know, can you take us? Yeah, yeah. You know, hey. And you got some leverage because it's like, oh, I got to be nice to this girl's kid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:13 You know, and, you know, you definitely take advantage of that situation. Yeah, yeah. And how many guys are, like, in the house, like, coming through? Is your mom, like, dating a bunch of guys? No, it wasn't on, it wasn't on a crazy shit like that. It was like, you know, just, hey, oh, hey, hey, I don't think it's going to work out. I think you need to go, oh, go stay with, da-da-da-da for a little bit. But, like, I had the best and the worst child had ever.
Starting point is 00:16:34 So it was like, I've had the most magical Christmases. And all the craziest shit that you think you're supposed to give a child. But then I also had, like, yo, dad threw this butcher knife at Nico, the shiny Sharpay, another charpade, a victim of domestic violence. Where's that Sarah McLaughlin? Yeah, I don't know. We have to pay for those mortalsies. But through this large, like, butcher knife,
Starting point is 00:16:56 and they, like, stabbed my dog, and then he had to, like, lie to the vet. It was, like, it was a different time. How do you lie to the vet? Like, oh. The butcher knife fell off the grill. I'm like, you know, okay. It's six inches into this dog's leg.
Starting point is 00:17:10 The dog's like a Halloween decoration. He was trying to hit me. But I was quick with it, because I didn't always just to be fat. I played college basketball. little, a little, you had handles? Yeah. Yeah. I can still, I shoot better now than I did then because I feel like now a lot of sports is mental.
Starting point is 00:17:26 It's, it's geometry, it's distance, it's spacing. You get too close to them. They fly by you. You get too far. They get you. Yeah, yeah. Once you start analyzing the, the, the techniques of certain things, there is more of a science. You can only have so much athleticism until it's like, okay, now your mind takes over.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Yeah. Like some old guy, like Larry. bird. He would Jedi mind fuck these motherfuckers. So you can make it to the league now if you wanted to. No, hell. I was in delusion for a year. I was going to be in the NBA. And then one day I woke up and I wasn't seven foot tall. So the biggest is, you don't tell you about the
Starting point is 00:17:59 biggest, the worst thing when you find out you're seeing your dad's hog growing up and you're like, damn, my dad's got a big ass dick. And then boom, you find out in foster care that he's not your biological father and your small penis is going to be small forever. And I should have been more concerned about the other thing. that come with not finding out this
Starting point is 00:18:18 at an age. And I found him the worst. It was like this girl. She's like yeah, that's not even your dad. And it was like when the whole room starts to shrink and I'm like what? Yeah, it was like it was a weird thing. But like people have definitely gone through fucking worse.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I wasn't getting like finger fucked by my parents or anything. Which I don't even... It wasn't attractive enough I guess. No, no, no. You could get it as a kid. I saw some pics. You were a handsome kid. Thank you. But I also don't believe the small penis thing. Oh, it's bad. You say that a lot. You said it yesterday. a lot. You're like, oh, I got a small day. I don't buy it. Yeah, I mean, here's my dick right here. It's like,
Starting point is 00:18:51 it's literally like fucking inverted right now. I had to like, it's egg corned in. I have to literally pull my dick out of it. It's like a little egg corn in a little cave. I would say I'm a grower or not a shower, but even at its finest times, you know, every now and then I get it, I feel like, damn, I've been a really good dick day.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Feeling strong about this one. But then I'm just... That shit is honestly pretty small, bro. Well, it... I know, listen, that, you know, the bottom of the disclaimer, results may very right now uh i've i'm in the middle of a fucking four day event uh my dick feels like the hamburger helper man i've been fucking all weekend i've been drinking and 10 minutes ago i just shit out fucking tequila out of my ass i don't think you're digging small i think it's hiding i think
Starting point is 00:19:30 it's trying to run away well it's like i have like phupas and stuff now if any of your listeners are big like myself like there's a lot of shit that goes into the like the chafing like i'm fucking constantly sweating you know bending over i get it we have a thing like oh that's gonna cost you a bendover. I had to like, I'll kick shit together on the ground so I do one bend over instead of multiple. That's smart actually. A lot of fat man hacks. You're like the, you're like the Bezos of being fat.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Yeah. You're like, yeah, I got to organize my life and to be efficient. And you would think like a lot of people, because I know I get that, completely look like a douchebag from afar. And then you like take a closer look and motherfuckers start falling in love because like, you know, I'm just real with it. I have nothing to hide. I don't care. And, uh, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:15 I'm not too concerned about cancel culture. Yeah. You know? As long as you're not raping women and fucking kids and being a racist piece of shit, then come at me, bro. It's like whatever. Yeah. You know, there's really nothing.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Those are the big three. Those are like the, those are the, those are the Thanos Infinity Stones of like, don't do that. Yeah, you could literally kill someone and then get a TV show deal. Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. Okay. So why do you live with monkeys? Like, so these people are just trying to get checks from the government and they also have a
Starting point is 00:20:41 bunch of monkeys by coincidence. Yeah, because there's a lot of animals there. and then there was like a there was a Columbia Zoo there was a whenever like a monkey would be like rejected by its mother and stuff because apparently female monkeys can be real fucking bitches sometimes and they just start you know fucking beating the shit out of the thing doesn't feed it and and uh the foster mom was there we called her meemaw and she she had a big heart for animals and it was very uh normal to us like I was
Starting point is 00:21:08 I remember one one year I was at all black school and uh In South Carolina. Yeah. And they used to call me Eminem. Like, yo, what's so monkey man? That's old this monkey man. Oh, that's old this monkey man. Not Eminem, the rapper.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Eminem monkey pen. Yeah, this is before Eminem. This is poor, Slim Shay, shit. They were like, yo, what's up Eminemian? That's all Eminem monkey man. And because we would, I would, you know, get dropped off sometimes at school or picked up. And there was monkeys in the van. It was like this, like, you know, it was like one of those sweet, like, old school vans that had like the real plush.
Starting point is 00:21:41 It's like the shitty ass giant nipple TV in the podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we would, all the foster kids would be riding around and go in the church and shit and monkeys everywhere. So what do you think at this point in your life? Like, you're old enough to be having conscious thoughts. Like, okay, I'm not with my- All-normal to me. I'm not with my real parents.
Starting point is 00:21:57 They didn't really, couldn't really take care of me, didn't really want to put in the effort or something. And now I'm living with monkeys in South Carolina. That's it right there. And it was normal, though. It was like, yeah, this is cool. Yeah, it was kind of like slave labor. It was like child human trafficking maybe because we were definitely doing a lot of farming. I mean, I was hustling, like, selling a horse manure to this old lady that had a fruit stand.
Starting point is 00:22:18 She's like, can you give me some of that horse shit? And I'll give you five bucks. And then I was like, oh, my God, you're going to buy this horse shit? So then I would like volunteer for certain things that other foster kids didn't want to do. And I'm just fucking slinging shit next door to this old lady. And, yeah, and I, you know, I always had a very entrepreneurial spirit. Right. And as a child, I would like, I remember we had this one house that had like these wooden bars.
Starting point is 00:22:45 I remember kicking them out. And then my dad just, I mean, I took an ass with him from that because I think I guess I broke the screen. He's like, what the fuck is this? Who did this? And I was hustling selling like McDonald's toys and like ice cream and shit. I would just go steal shit from my parents or, you know, like, oh, now we're starting to wonder why you were. Now I would see why you weren't boss to care. I was just slinging McDonald's toys out of my window
Starting point is 00:23:09 like a drive through window and mowing lawns and I had this old Puerto Rican lady she let me borrow a lawnmower and I was fucking riding around getting it like just making money and wow so those those type of like core values always just be hardworking and going after it yeah hustle yeah I'm nothing like a lot of these younger kids now
Starting point is 00:23:29 that just are very entitled and lazy so now to know me now to find to describe cover the world of Mike Bucing now it's like, it's like right now you're watching the fucking last Harry Potter movie you don't know what the fuck is going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like walking in, Lord of the Rings 12 or whatever fuck they're on. Like, why is he beating up this guy
Starting point is 00:23:48 with no nose? It's like, no-n-law. Why is this midget been thrown to a volcano? Like, there's a lot of shit to... You got to figure out the under-the-stairs version of Mike Bucy first, the boy who lived. I kind of have a sweeter spot for people who've been following me back when I was like broke as fuck. Right. Because, like, they
Starting point is 00:24:04 got to see a lot of stuff and now the people that just not discovered, I'm just like, oh, there's just like just a rich dude, just whatever. Yeah, yeah. Trust Fun Kid, fucking whatever. Okay, so. That part, like, slightly irritates me because sometimes I'll find myself talking
Starting point is 00:24:22 to like the pizza guy like, hey, listen, thanks for delivery. Here's your tip, which I always tip extremely well. What are we talking? What percent? Or a hondo off the rip because you have to. You just like, here, boom, boom, boom. Just a bill. Just like, yeah, here you go.
Starting point is 00:24:35 I definitely am guilty of having a big heart for sure. Yeah. But I'll be like, listen, sorry, man, but all this shit here, man, it hasn't been my life. Six years ago, I was sleeping in a walking closet, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I came from nothing. So when you see all this and when people come here, like I was telling you last night, it's not to brag. It's in hopes that you're inspired and it entertained you and it gives you like, you know, it sparks your imagination.
Starting point is 00:25:02 and that if, you know, a lot of people say I must have been a homosexual interior designer in a previous life because I love fucking decorating some shit. I love me, love me decorating some shit. It's something rewarding. It's like taking a space and then coming up with a concept because not everyone has a creativity and driver passion. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:22 I don't have, like, I'm not like fucking talented much, but creativity, I'll smoke anyone. Did you ever consider getting monkeys like your... Yeah, oh yeah. It's a lot of the stuff is like very, very, very, regulated federally. So, you know, if you cross state lines with a monkey, boy, you might as well
Starting point is 00:25:38 just throw the fucking kilos in there too, because you know, you're fucking rolling the dice. Yeah, it's some Tiger King shit. Oh, yeah. And, and, like, so a lot of people have misconceptions with people in the animal world. There's, like, two different times. There's people that are just literally fucking slinging animals to make money. And then
Starting point is 00:25:54 there's the people who are actually taking in, animals actually need help or, you know. So then how did you leave this, like, monkey fighting ring that you were in. And then, like, how did you, how did, like, what was the process of getting out of that and getting back to Florida? Oh, I think my mom, I know, I don't think I know.
Starting point is 00:26:10 My mom showed up with this, like, real, like, fucking dope monkey scallywag. Like, we're talking Daytona Beach looking stripper, pillhead. Like, I remember actually they showed up and, like, busted us out. The cops came and everything. And it's all, like, at the same day, I'm finding out, my whole world's like, what do you mean? That, he's not my father? And then I swear, I was just like, my whole world was changed, which is like whatever. I mean, I've had a lot of, I don't want to like let people think that it's, I've had just like this horrible shitty life.
Starting point is 00:26:44 I had like a fucking awesome great memories of a child, all kinds of cool shit. Right. But to me, it's normal, you know, your dad beating the shit out of you for this or that. But then there was times there where it was like the most amazing, crazy, like, you know, like the old school shit. You hear like the 80s stuff. We're fucking playing with fire. blowing shit up. Out all night, like come home before it's dark kind of a lot of. Your parents, like, I
Starting point is 00:27:06 remember living in a trailer, after I was born in Orleans, but we went to Dallas, Texas area, and I remember just seeing razor blades and mirrors everywhere, and like, all right, you and your sister, go to bed. And then my parents had all these, like, swinger
Starting point is 00:27:22 couples coming over, and they're just fucking everywhere, and, you know, trailer walls are very thin. You can hear, see some shit. Wait, why your parents haven't swinger couples go over? They were fucking rock stars. It's partying. Oh, really? Which is probably why I've never, ever done drugs. I've never even smoked weed. Not that I think it weeds a drug, but, you know, I've never
Starting point is 00:27:40 done no coke, no pills. I feel like sometimes I feel like I'm telling someone for the first time Santa Claus ain't real. I feel like sometimes they're like disappointed. Yeah, I mean, your persona gives off like Coke dealer. Oh, yeah. From the future kind of vibe. Yeah, some bits from fucking, I look like that motherfucker. Yeah. Yeah, so you get You got all this crazy shit going on as a child And you're just glad to fucking, you know Have a place and right
Starting point is 00:28:07 And I went to 15 different schools So there was never like I never went to school more than two different years Consequently and did Were you liked in school like? Oh yeah I was popular spot or really I mean there was there were times where I definitely had to like you know We're talking 80s 90s you had to fight you know
Starting point is 00:28:24 What's your what's your record? I got I got my ass handed to me like twice The monkeys doesn't count if the monkey beats you up The monkeys got got me. There's something really fucking strange about the elasticity of their muscles. Like, they're fucking strong. Like, they don't look like they're strong, but these motherfuckers can fuck you up.
Starting point is 00:28:42 You got your ass whooped, though? Like a good... Were you ever afraid? What about that chick that was on Oprah that got her face ripped off? Like, were you ever afraid of that shit happening? Oh, a couple times because, like, there's certain things. Like, sometimes I would lay next to them, like, on the cage. There was, like, a cage, like, in the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:28:56 This is, like, this big. It was, like, the foster home dinner table. Yeah. And sometimes you would lay there and the monkey would just sit there and groom you and picking out your leg hairs, your arm hairs. Well, if you were done with that and you were trying to check out, you had to do it very strategically because you couldn't just get up and move away from the monkey because they feel like you're betraying them. Like, oh, you're going to leave me? I don't think so. And they just like grab on you and shit.
Starting point is 00:29:24 So yeah, you had to like be, you had to know, all right, I'm about to go. Boom, go. And then they would be like, you motherfucker. Sometimes they were very loving and embracing. But they never actually hurt you, though. Not that I recall, no. You've locked it out, though. That same foster home I fell down a flight of stairs.
Starting point is 00:29:39 I was tripped by this giant-ass Great Dane named Chelsea. In case y'all are keeping tracks. All these animals do have names. Yeah, you remember all of them. Some things I fucking remember to the damn dead, and some things I did what last night? Yeah. I don't remember that.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Are you sure? I'm like, bullshit. You're fucking lying to me. But Chelsea's in your brain. I have a fucking, most Great Dane's are fucking dumb and clumsy. and they tripped me down my big ass head head firs fucking down broke the stairs
Starting point is 00:30:05 knock my teeth out fucking yeah so and health care is not very good in foster care either right oh you need these you need some dental work on it's like that's like asking crazy shit oh you want your teeth
Starting point is 00:30:16 what do you fucking you need teeth fix what do you do this for? I think you're better than me getting your teeth fix exactly and so do you keep in touch with your foster parents at all the foster mom just passed away
Starting point is 00:30:26 about like eight years ago oh wow and she uh we we loved her she was she was cool she was cool and absolutely fucking horrible yeah there was just things that you're just like you what like there were times like every couple months like all right we go up in the attic and they'd out leads trash bags and you get to if you were lucky she she really liked me i was one of her favorite but uh you get to pick through that to hand me down from generations of other foster kids like the shitty clothes yeah so my the photos uh thank god
Starting point is 00:30:54 we're not living now because i would definitely get roasted on some of the attire not to this fucking eight dollar amazon shirts uh very oh i think I thought you got that from the attic. Yeah, I thought you got that from her. It looks like it should be in an attic. But, yeah, I cut the sleeves off, and none of my fucking clothes even fit me anyways. It's lightweight, it's colorful. It has a collar, has buttons.
Starting point is 00:31:11 It says, hey, I could dress up, but I didn't want. No, this is sport mode. Like, if you need to run, like, you're aerodynamic right now. Yeah, for sure. I don't know how fast I would be running out. I used to be very fast. Yeah. Very athletic.
Starting point is 00:31:21 So growing up, you played basketball, too. Yeah. I, you know, living with the brothers, you got to learn how to get down or lay down. Yeah, yeah. So I'm like, I'm out of out. trying to figure shit out and, you know, you know, just a little more passionate and sane with it.
Starting point is 00:31:37 So what I lacked in the athletic ability, I had it like, I'm like, oh, I'll fucking die for that. I'll, you know. Yeah. Always kind of like a wild Dennis Robman-ish type of basketball career. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was good for 10 rebounds, 10, 10 fucking points every game.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Wow. So you were actually, like, going for it. Yeah. And is, you know, when you're young and your delusion, you're like, oh, I'll be the best one day. Yeah, yeah. Then you wake up and you're like, fuck, got to get a real job. And I've had every job you can think of.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Right. Like, healthcare, construction. I sold fucking Kirby vacuum cleaners door to door with this sketchy one-eyed dude. Just every fucking job. I worked at Walt Disney World. I was a fireworks cruise captain. I drove like these boats.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Did you really? How old were you doing that? That was 2001-ish. Okay. So, yeah, I was actually there, September 11th, I was working. I wasn't physically there at Disney, but I was working there during that. Right. So I remember certain parts of my brain wire, like, oh, yeah, like, monkey, oh, yeah, South Carolina.
Starting point is 00:32:44 There's a flowchart of shit in my head always. So, okay, how did, so your mom comes up one day and she's like, hey, we're taking you back to Florida. You and your sister. Oh, yeah. And the crack-hand lady, Kim was her name, I believe, that bitch. What did she do? She's just a drug addict piece of shit We literally stopped at a fucking ER on the way down
Starting point is 00:33:04 Like I remember I think we stopped somewhere in Georgia And it was like I gotta go In the time you don't know why this bitch is scratching her fucking neck And looking like skeletoric crackhead But you know You know just questionable people around people's lives So I definitely grew up having like this bitterness towards drugs And then in my early college years
Starting point is 00:33:24 And I'm a party and stuff like that I was just like I don't need it I want to do it I was I was just like I had kind of like a chip on my shoulder about it
Starting point is 00:33:35 and I didn't even drink until I was like 21 Oh really? I didn't even I didn't I wasn't having sex with women vagina as until I was 21 I was like this oh I want to What do you mean with women?
Starting point is 00:33:45 Well I was a virgin until I was 21 of the vagina I did fuck a girl in the ass one time I actually fucked a girl in the ass before I did the vagina I don't know I was on this
Starting point is 00:33:56 like crazy Christian kick like if I fuck her in the ass God won't be disappointed Oh you were one of those The poop pool Oh yeah I went to a private Christian college You growing up living in foster
Starting point is 00:34:06 Only he's crazy Domestic Violent Monkeys Will definitely drive you towards the Lord Yeah you're like There's got to be a life after this shit Please God get me the fuck out of here Please
Starting point is 00:34:15 And what about your sister She's with you the whole time Is she like also has the same outlook on this Is she kind of happy? We had the darkest humor fucking mind fucked Like we just sometimes we'll tell stories to our friends
Starting point is 00:34:28 and they're looking at us like yo what the fuck do you just say we're like oh what like that's yeah you didn't fight a baboon and so did your sister did she have a similar experience as you like yeah but she you know she was my dad's biological child so
Starting point is 00:34:43 why can't you be more like your sister she was coming home with fucking principals uh straight age and shit and I'm coming home like I get lucky if I get like a perfect attendance certificate yeah the only A you got was anal bro. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, so I was like, after this wild, so we got wild crazy childhood, rock and roll, fucking swing your parents, drugs, fucking foster home monkeys. And then we fast forward
Starting point is 00:35:05 to high school, crazy popular, athletic, doing stuff. In Florida, things are looking up for all Mike music. I'm like, you know, I'm going to turn this shit around. This thing of life, I'm going to fuck around. Yeah. And then we get there. And then it's like, okay, now you're back in real world. You know, you already knew, you know, you weren't ever relying on anybody. I was very independent, of course going out there working and stuff getting how I needed to get it you know and I successfully avoided having any type of problems
Starting point is 00:35:33 with drugs or and my biggest fears was getting someone fucking pregnant so maybe along with the religious faith stuff I'm like you know the morality of me at the time was like yeah I'm gonna find someone to fall in love with them and lose my virginity
Starting point is 00:35:48 and it's this fairy tale wedding in my mind and shit so that's where I was like but I would get head and I was And you're fucking, like, at a very inappropriate age. Yeah. Talking like, you should not be putting your fingers there at that age. Yeah. You should be not getting your dick sucked at a foster home.
Starting point is 00:36:02 It's not what's supposed to be happening. Especially with the monkey. Like, they have sharp teeth. Shout out to Lori Meredithiss. You let me play with her titties. It was one of my first titty experiences. I was a titty guy for a long time. How old were you?
Starting point is 00:36:13 I was all about titties and probably to like 2010. And then I switched over to ass. Wow. But now I still need the titties. Yeah. Yeah. It's a both and, not an either-or kind of thing. I'm very sexually liberated now.
Starting point is 00:36:26 So a guy, you would think that's just like super Christian, like, no, no, don't do that. I'm completely opposite now. I like to say, I've elevated my level of consciousness to a higher state. And I'm more, I'm very sexually liberated. I believe that all humans are biologically just have that desire to breed, to mate. Yeah, yeah. To conquer and take and, you know, that type of stuff. So suppressing your natural desires
Starting point is 00:36:55 Because humans really are just fucking domesticated animals Right Pottied-trained animals You know With cute little outfits and cool electronic You know gadgets and shit Right So uh so okay
Starting point is 00:37:08 So you're now you're in high school Is your mom cool at this point? Is she like She wasn't um I was I was living I did a summer in Kentucky Rackcliffe Kentucky right like miles away from Fort Knox and I was there
Starting point is 00:37:24 This is where you're going to live, boy You're going to go up to Kentucky My mom married this piece of shit Redneck dude Honeycone Fucking eating Fucking mountain dew slanging Psycho wrestling NASCAR guy
Starting point is 00:37:36 Yeah He looks like this little chick monk And definitely some beef We did bond One day in the trailer I happened to watch Hollywood Hulk Hogan come out Okay
Starting point is 00:37:47 When he turned to the NWO Yeah yeah yeah I watched that in my live living room and then I was like all right I'll get into this I'll get into this wrestling shit and I was hooked and that's the one thing we bonded on but I hated him he hated me it was like uh I just I did wanted my mom to do better yeah and he was fucking fucking garbage but uh one one summer I was playing uh playing basketball this very uh super hood park during a day little did I know at night it did turned into a uh fucking freak town
Starting point is 00:38:18 freak town freak man shit some you know some it's basically you go to suck dudes dicks in the parking lot. You know, you've been to, like, state parks and shit, and there's always that guy driving around by himself. He's, he's dick fishing. He's looking for some dick. Is that true? Oh, 100%.
Starting point is 00:38:33 You've never been to a park and seen some guy by himself, and you can tell he's looking for some dig. I assume he's hiking. He's just going for, like, a walk. Is he, though? Look in his shoes, okay? Just like the homeless people. Those ones aren't hiking shoes.
Starting point is 00:38:43 If you're a suck dick guy, we know what you're here for. Wow. And there's that awkward, like, it's changed. Because the other guy's showing up, and you're looking at each other. And you're looking at each other. And I'm like, cuckoo! Yeah, you got a bad signal somehow. Yeah, you're like, oh, oh, oh, shit, what's up?
Starting point is 00:38:57 You know, but I was at this park and playing basketball. Here we go. It's starting, sun's coming down. And I see in the distance, and I'm kind of like down in this valley, and it's this high hill. And I see this white floor explorer show up. And his dude gets out, and he sits on the picnic table, and he's just sitting there. And I'm just, I'm like, whatever. minding my business.
Starting point is 00:39:21 I'm a Florida boy. I'm in Kentucky. You know, basketball is like everything there. I was developing my game. Yeah. You know, getting smoked by like 13-year-old kids. I'm pretty sure I played with like half the WMBA. I don't know who they fucking were.
Starting point is 00:39:34 And I've never had a seven-foot dude's testicles in my face until I got dunked on, like, just like, yeah. Like this dude's like just yak, serving me, just ball all in my face. And it definitely helped my game. I definitely got to only getting tighter. Yeah. But one day I decided to stay a little too late in that park and here comes, you know, it's a gay park at night. The dude comes in, pulls his pants down on the picking table and starts beating his dick.
Starting point is 00:40:00 And I'm basically stuck at the bottom at this hill and it's probably a good like 50 yards up. There's no one there. It's me, him. And here, here my, I think I'm like 16 to the time. So I'm like, and I'm probably like super homophobic at the time. I'm like, oh, no, no. And now I'm just like doing gay or shit than a gay person will do. I'm very comfortable my sexuality.
Starting point is 00:40:23 I don't give a fuck. By the time, you were afraid you're going to catch it or something. Yeah, you're like, you know, he's going to fuck me, which maybe he was trying to. I don't know. But I had a plan up my sleeve, and that was to be more aggressive, like, yeah, slapping the backboard and shit. I wanted to, it was like, you know, with the monkeys. They taught me something.
Starting point is 00:40:40 You got to dominate your area and show your security. Yes. You know, like, no, you will not come down that hill and fuck me. I'm the alpha. You see what I just did? I just slapped that backward, bro. I come at me. So you're actually trying to like fucking machoze
Starting point is 00:40:54 your way out of it. But then now I'm like, oh my God, I was just getting him hot and horrier. He's probably just fucking, yeah, yeah, get that. Yeah, jump. Do another one. Yeah, jump, boy, sweet boy. So what happened? So yeah, I had to fucking, I was scared shitless.
Starting point is 00:41:07 I sucked his dick. And I was a- I had to climb up the whole thing. There was no only one way in it. And it was like a 20-foot fence enclosure. I climbed up and literally had to like, I think I walked like four or five miles. out of the way to get back to my trailer. You said there's going to be like a troll or someone,
Starting point is 00:41:21 like quiz you to get past the bridge? If you want to go up this hill, boy, tell me. It'll be this, it'll be that. So yeah, I fucking, I was traumatized and I came back like, I'm like, because you know, every kid, you know, growing up my time, you always got that like, yo, it's today the day I get abducted.
Starting point is 00:41:38 You know, you're watching Unsolved Mysteries. You hear Robert Stack, chills, fucking goose bump city. Your fucking hairs are sticking up. You're like, yo, this is when I'm going to get fucked. in your day that shit was happening a lot yeah bro it's just like once a week he'd be like yeah we lost jimmy that was it well i remember like hearing adam wallstrom remember his one of his
Starting point is 00:41:55 his son uh had his like head chopped off and shit and they found him like in a canal and so when you're grown in florida you're like yo that's the that's the turnpike bro that's where he found that kid's head and certain things you probably shouldn't hear but like the fuck you up
Starting point is 00:42:11 it's like scary shape program oh you motherfuckers you don't want to get doodle boy you better get fucking you better get strong Yeah He's strong Literally scared straight That's crazy So I
Starting point is 00:42:21 I had to climb on This fucking giant ass fits Came home I was like And this redneck He said James See I went back to that
Starting point is 00:42:28 Yeah He was like What's wrong with you boy And I was like Man there's a guy That's just get Gator down here Jack and his dick
Starting point is 00:42:35 And they're all laughing And I was so like What? I was like Traumatized You know And I was like I gotta get the fuck out of here
Starting point is 00:42:43 So I came back Came back to Florida Yeah And I don't even know why I even told that the story right there. No, no. So you're like 17, 18, back to Florida. School, high school. Then I'm like, okay, I'm in, I'm in church. I came back to my dad. He had married this psycho fucking bitch named Teresa.
Starting point is 00:43:01 I hope she's dead. You know, I got a small list of like, I will literally fly to her fucking funeral and piss on their grave. I'm holding on to some bitterness, just a little bit. Yeah. And why? What did she do? She just, uh, a motherfucker. She was just constantly like, playing mind games with me. Because me and my dad already had like, you know, a very tension in a situation.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Yeah. But then my dad being a Captain Sabahoe, find some cute chick that's going to give him some pussy. And I remember she worked at KFC. And they went, and we're talking. And this woman's like pushing God down our throats. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:43:37 We're going to this like Southern Baptist, like hellfire and brimstone church. Right. And it's just like, oh my God. And then I'm like, You know, they push the fear of, you're going to burn in hell, motherfucker. And all I'm thinking about is fucking me burying porn in the woods jacking off, fucking force fires, all these sins I commit.
Starting point is 00:43:58 I'm like, yes, this is what I need to do. I need to find God and came to Jesus. And I stopped finger fucking for a little bit. And you were like super religious at this point. You're like, yeah, I'm going to church. I was leaving like Bible tracks in the beer section at 7-Eleven. Were you really? Oh, dude, I was like, hey, man, do you know about?
Starting point is 00:44:17 the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I was really like pushing it. And you really believed or you were kind of like going along with it to like fit in? No, I could really, I still to this day have my faith. But every time I watch fucking goddamn ancient aliens, I mean, shit, I get mind fucked. I'm like, hold on, we got to scrap all this start back at the top. Yeah. Now, how does, and I think that like, you know, faith in general, when you're younger and naive,
Starting point is 00:44:41 you just kind of like, yeah, that's it. You know? And everyone's believing it around you. all the adults that you know are believe in it. Yeah, so you're going there, you've already, you're seeking some type of stability. You've moved around. I've already had to cycle analyze my shit.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Like, like, okay, so maybe that's why, like, I'm hoarding shit and, like, I'm holding on like, no, this is my blanket. I'm very sentimentally, I have a lot of, like, I sentimentally hoard things, certain things, like memories. Yeah. And I'm big on that.
Starting point is 00:45:10 And I get excited and I get emotional and I get passionate about things that I'm able to do now. that I couldn't do before. Like having something on fucking auto draft, Jesus Christ. Like, did I? Sometimes I lay in this bed. Because I slept in a walking closet for 10 fucking years before this,
Starting point is 00:45:27 and garages and shit. So this is Saucas Castle 8. There's seven other locations before. But Saus Castle 7 was there for 10 years. And every place was uniquely decorated. It's like a shit hole fucking, but dive bar mixed in with a strip club type of thing. but we were having like the most
Starting point is 00:45:48 craziest parties like you know what you would you know a lot of people said I should have sent us cease and assist the project X people like that's your fucking life you're biting me bro yeah yeah you're not the wolf of Wall Street but you're like the wolf of like OBT yeah so I'm we're talking
Starting point is 00:46:03 this is pre-social media I'm like yo bro I'm like passing on flyers like street team shit and this is while you're at the Christian college so I'll button that one up so we're I'll Riley. This whole thing's like you have right.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Yeah. You have a hard time buttoning anything up. I get it. If they're listening, they're fucking definitely like, wait on me, what? Okay, we're back on the monkeys. Fuck, I thought we were done with the monkeys. No, no, no. The monkeys never go away. So, uh, I'm in college. I'm playing basketball at Florida Christian College. You went there to play ball? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:36 I was before there, I was getting recruited to go play. I was at a public high school, St. Claude High. And then I left and went to a private Christian. school. It was like a Baptist Christian school. And I won't say that name because I had another awesome, like dramatic fucking crazy thing in my life.
Starting point is 00:46:55 I was in an inappropriate at my age a time, sexual relationship with a beautiful, sexy hot teacher. Who was a female, by the way? And she happened to be my coach's wife. What? And he became like our homie, like our bro. He was like
Starting point is 00:47:13 your uncle. And, you know, he would play video games and he would like order his pizza and he was like a lot of people don't know that a lot of private schools take in the kids that get expelled. Yes. I went to a private school like that. It was a really small school in Mayland and so it would
Starting point is 00:47:30 be like half like super ultra-Christianity kids and then the other half was like degenerates they got expelled from every other school. And that was me and then it was just we were like imagine this underfunded very like what the fuck. I couldn't leave for actual paint
Starting point is 00:47:45 tuition to go there. I was like, you know, and it was just a small church. Is the school still around? It still is. And I've contemplated like, you know, I ain't no snitch. So, you know, all these kids now, they're all getting, you know, they're fucking their teachers and they're fucking up. And then they're like, oh, wow, I got, I got fucked by this hot teacher. And I, I was loving at the time. You know, I thought it was great. But then I had morals and I was like, no, we can't do this. And I, like, I still have like a letter from her that she wrote. And he was like immediately destroy this after you read it and she like fell in love with me and everything and you're like 17 at the time 15 16 time around there and how old is she like 33?
Starting point is 00:48:27 Come on. Yeah, that's fucking awesome. And so how did you link with her? Like what was the vibe? It was just like the coach was one of those guys that fucking all he cared about is like watching ESPN and fucking video games. And she'd be like, someone going to fuck me like, you know, what the fuck? And she was hot. And then she would come in and like, I.
Starting point is 00:48:45 I was one of the very few white people on our team. So we're like, oh, damn, what's up? We're like, yo, your wife's looking good. And he's like, yeah, right. Like, I don't know if he just had zero testosterone or he was contemplating his sexuality. We don't know. What, you said that to him? And he was like, all kind of like assuming that, you know, just the homies.
Starting point is 00:49:03 We go on like crazy, sketchy long. Like, we were in this like church van going to like cities we should not be playing. And, you know, like getting smoked. Yeah. And just high school athletic stuff. And we actually didn't even have a gym We had to practice and have our games At the Boys and Girls Club
Starting point is 00:49:20 Right And nearest And just all kinds of fun, crazy adventures But when I got entangled with that I was like, yo, this is awesome And there was this show Called Dawson's Creek Yeah, yeah
Starting point is 00:49:33 And one of the main characters Was having a relationship with this teacher And I was like, oh my God It was like, whoa, this is crazy And then like at one point My mom was like Why is Miss blah blah blah Come on over here picking you up
Starting point is 00:49:45 And she was, like, calling the house and showing up. She had this, like, disgusting, fucking red, like, station wagon. There was, like, a Ford or something. I remember just seeing, like, fucking French fry rotting on the floor and, like, spilled Coke everywhere, Coca-Cola. Yeah. She'd come pick me up and just blowing me on the playground, like, locking the door and all this shit. And did she come on to you, or you?
Starting point is 00:50:06 Oh, yeah. Like... She initiated. A couple of us were, like, yo, day... Like, we were kind of like, yo, what's up? And, you know, we're just young little jits, you know? know, like, because I was doing like hood rat shit. I was doing bad stuff.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Yeah. You know, I'm all like, I don't want no one watching this or listening to this. Be like, damn, it's poor. You're like, no, I was fucking also a piece of shit. Like, almost burnt down my first trailer I lived in. Doing what? Fireworks? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:30 No, just burning shit. Like, oh, I don't like this stool on fire. And then I blamed it on my sister. And then like. You know, that's like a calling card for serial killers. Oh, yeah. Like they burn shit. And I pissed.
Starting point is 00:50:39 I whetted the bed until I was like 13 years old. I mean, those were all serial killer. And I have slightly red hair. Yeah. I should have been a serial killer. Yeah, I mean, there's still time. You know, if you wanted to, you could... This old sausage castle shit, don't worry out of it.
Starting point is 00:50:50 I mean, Jeffrey Dahmer is really fucking hot right now. Yeah, I know. And you still have years of eligibility to be a serial killer. Like, I don't know what the statute of limitations on it is, but you can get in there. And so back to statute of limitations, I was, you know, in this improper... To me, I was... It was awesome. Extremely proper.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Sexual adventure. Yeah. I mean, when you're like 15, 16, and you're, like, making out with, like, a 30-plus-year-old woman, She's going to teach a game. Right. Now I'm looking at the rest of the girls in my age, like, y'all ain't shit. Y'all ain't shit. And it's a confidence booster, you know, but things were getting too much for me.
Starting point is 00:51:26 And I was like, whoa, like, I was scared. And it's weird because now it's like people, students at a school, they're like the victim. But I was like, I don't want her to get in trouble. So I was like, not, you know, a couple of my homies knew. but one of them was one of my homie homies and he was so jealous and when things started getting like a little too much for me I started to try to push him
Starting point is 00:51:51 to her I'm like yo you should fuck with my homie and she's like what the fuck did it and she was like pissed and then she would like stop like she was bringing me like lunches and stuff like I was I was like you know she was bringing me like Olive Garden and shit I was eating like a king
Starting point is 00:52:08 and they were like yo what's going on why is that olive breadsticks aren't the only thing bottomless I see you, bro. Exactly. And in some of the administration, they were definitely, like, like, why is Mike over there with Miss blah, blah, blah, blah every time? Like, what's going
Starting point is 00:52:23 on? And were you ever afraid that the coach, your literal coach, was not going to find out? Yes, of course. Yes, I was. Like, I was fucking scared shitless. He was like jacking me off in the back of this church van and he's like driving and I'm like... He's in the car? Sometimes, yeah, it was crazy. And I felt bad because, like,
Starting point is 00:52:39 you know, I just get brought to this school to play ball. Next thing he knows, I don't know if this is a part of the recruiting process, but I highly recommend you sending some ringers down to the local schools if you want to lure them into your university, because that'll definitely help. You think she watched her tape and she was like, we need him. He seems like a good recruit.
Starting point is 00:52:57 That's who I want to jack off in those long away games in the back of a church van. And do you think the coach knew, like secretly? And he was just kind of... There was times where like, oh, my God. He must have known. We almost justified it sometimes the way like we would talk and stuff, because we were just like, yo, he has to know. coach has to know and it was just like it just felt wrong to me you know and I was like I got to
Starting point is 00:53:18 cut this off so I kept pushing my homie Chris bro Chris was in love with her was she was he on the basketball team too yeah I mean it's typical you hear about the teacher running the train on the team yeah I know but but you're always you're a team player though you're always throwing assists I see yeah no you hey I'll do you mother fuck come catch come catch some of this you know and did she ever talk about like oh yeah my husband like he's cool with it or like oh he doesn't No. She never brought him up. No, it was definitely like, you can't, this is our secret type of thing.
Starting point is 00:53:48 But to me, like, I know now this is like, you know, this is what we call fucking pedophilia behavior. Yeah, it's grooming. You got groomed, bro. Yeah. But so it's like, but to me it was just like, yo, this is fucking awesome. Crazy. It might sound fucked up, but, you know, whatever. That's your life, bro.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Just how it was. Yeah. You know, get down, lay down, motherfucker's. Like, it was, you know, you're young dude discovering life. You're getting pukewage. You're getting curious. Like, oh, shit. And the coach never found out.
Starting point is 00:54:13 And you ended up breaking it off and you're like, hey, I can't do this anymore. Yeah, because I morally, I was still in that, like, Christian phase. Like, God, I'm sorry. It's been 32 days since I jacked off. Yeah. I'm backslitting. Were you ever, like, one of those guys were, like, if something went bad in your life, it's because you were like, oh, it's because I did this bad thing.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Oh, yeah. I'm still, shit. It was I ever. I'm, like, super superstitious about shit. Yeah, yeah. Very, like, because I believe in a lot of traction, putting things out there. But fast forward, I'll button this one up for you. My homie Chris, one of a, uh, getting with her and they had two fucking kids.
Starting point is 00:54:45 It looked nothing like the other two kids they had. And they looked exactly like him because in the yearbook, they posted photos of us as children. And I'm like, yep, that's, um, that's, that's his kids. So you all you to your boy, he gets her pregnant twice. And now are they still together? Like, what happened to them? No. And now that kids, like, you know, they're like in their 20s now.
Starting point is 00:55:05 And it's like crazy. I think one of them like follows my Instagram. And it's like, I, one day I want to just show up. me like, hi, I get to tell you something. Yeah, you're the godfather, bro. I'm the reason why you're here. I'm sorry. However, your mom was a good woman and just was lonely or something.
Starting point is 00:55:22 I don't know. I hate to see a cliche. It was a different time, but it was. Like, back then you were like, yo, that's like every kid's dream. And now I got these fucking pussies, oh, I'm going to tell. And eventually, you know, fucking, you know, unfortunately, which is probably good. It is good, yes. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:39 But my, my, uh... In a social sense is good, but in an individual sense for you, you're like, oh, I enjoyed it though. Yeah. So, no regrets. Yeah. Yolo, motherfucker. Okay. You're going to try telling me someone ain't trying to fuck their hot teacher now?
Starting point is 00:55:52 No, I get it. Especially for a guy. Like, I get being a guy, being 17, 18, I'm like, yeah, I'm, I get it. Yeah, you got rock hard, Willie every day. You got fucking, you just... But it's always creepy the other way, though. You'll never be as hard as you were in ninth grade. You're ready to get out there.
Starting point is 00:56:06 You're ready. They just came to grooming. That's the only thing. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I know it's like very cliche to say it is a double standard because it is. Like, no one gives a fuck when a dude is getting fucked by a hot or any female. If it's a heterosexual situation, if the minor is the boy, we're like, whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:27 But when it's a girl, it's like, which I totally agree. Yeah, it's like fucked. It just feels way weird. Yeah, it's worse. Yeah. Some, and I know this is probably a horrible thing to go into detail about, but yeah, it just fucking feels like it's, you know, less of a problem when it's a young man just trying to go out there and get it. I mean, your evidence of that.
Starting point is 00:56:48 You're like, yeah, that shit is fine. Look at me now. Yeah, if you fuck your teacher. If you act now, you swipe up. I'm going to throw in how to be like me package. It comes with a monkey, sexual predator fucking teacher. And if you act, I'll throw in these fucking guns behind me. This is why you're so good at basketball.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Because you're like, bro, I'll go to practice every day, bro. Are you kidding me? Like, fuck yeah, I'll be there. No, I don't worry on me. I'll close up. I'll close up the gym. Yeah, yeah. It was just my thing.
Starting point is 00:57:16 And coming from a rocky childhood, I, I urgently desire to have that, like, some type of stability, like a bond. And, you know, my, my homies were always, like, my family, my little, little streethood friends running around doing shit. I still talk to almost every one of them. Really? Yeah. Oh, wow. And even my crew. here have now, it's, it's been a lot
Starting point is 00:57:41 of the same people. Right. But I, I've, I've, uh, totally forgot what the fuck I was talking about. No, no, no. So now, so now you go to this Christian college, you're playing ball there, and immediately you get kicked out. Oh, yeah. So.
Starting point is 00:57:56 What happened? This is, this is a, this is a good story. I'm playing basketball at this fucking private Christian college to where it's like guys, dorms, women's dorms. And I, Ironically, and the only one, only guy that had an apartment on the second floor, I think it was 401 or something, very top left.
Starting point is 00:58:19 So all the bottom dormitories are guys and up, there's girls, and I'm the only one that's on the top. So like, I had to go up there every day back and forth. And there was this girl that worked there, and she was sucking my dick. She was, I was in this fucking Ford S-10, and she would pick me up. I'd sneak out. I had like an attic. I was doing some fucking Anne Frank shit where I was like fucking up an attic creeping, like quietly trying to walk across all the way to this other end of this dorm.
Starting point is 00:58:49 I was basically going all across these attics secretly and then sneaking out because you had like curfew and shit. You couldn't be out of that. Oh, this was like a super straight college where like the guys couldn't be in the girls dorm after an hour. Yeah, you had like chapel every Wednesday and shit. It was like crazy. And where is the where is? So it's crazy. But one day I'm just strolling around.
Starting point is 00:59:08 And the fucking president of the fucking college looks at me and he goes, sir, and I don't even know if he knew my fucking name or not. But he was like, you're wearing an earring. That's not very Christlike of you. I'm going to have to put you on academic probation.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Or like, there's like a moral one. There's academic and there's like a morality one they had. And I was striking all of them. I was like the first kid to get ejected out of a game and stuff. And I was on my dentist, I mean shit, take my shoes off.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Yeah, yeah. Like I was, you know. But I was having fun, team sports, you know, fucking all that shit, college. And I look at this president and I say, oh, well, it's not very Christ-like to be stealing the missionary money and fucking prostitutes and cheating on your wife. He looked at me, like, turned ghost white. What he didn't know that I was really good friends of his daughter, which is the typical, like, preacher's daughter, like, they're just complete degenerates.
Starting point is 01:00:06 And she used to tell me, like, all the time, like, yeah, he's, fucking cheating on my mom, da-da-da, and all this stuff. So when he heard that, I was like, ooh, he's got to go. Were you hooking up
Starting point is 01:00:15 with his daughter? No, but she was just friends. Yeah, just friends. And she would just, you know, vent to me. And I would always like, I hold on to these little like, bombshells every now and then.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Yeah, yeah. And I, within 12 hours, I was being evicted. And I was like, okay, what do I do now? And I'd always dreamed, this is, here is full circle,
Starting point is 01:00:34 guys, but wait, there's more, full circle. And this is how, we come up with probably with the concept and the idea of what the sausage castle is because I called one of my
Starting point is 01:00:47 I mean I was working at a four point Sheridan and I was at the bar and this was before I even had a cell phone I was calling my homie I was like yo let's get blah blah blah let's get him let's get sock dick Dave let's get him did da da
Starting point is 01:01:00 and let's all run a house together and we'll all chip it on the rent and you got like seven dudes kicking up like 500 a month at the time. You know, you can get some nice ass shit. Yeah. You can also piss off everyone who lives in that neighborhood. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:16 So HOA, the first sausage castle was only up for three months. It was like... And where was it? It was right in a town, Osceola County, like a little south of Orlando. Yeah, yeah. Florida. And, yeah, that was a short run. And then it was like, okay, let's do it again.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Let's go find another place. So we found another place. Same group. Same group of guys. And then we, we're in another place out. And that place, let's go for a while. We're there for a year at that one. And how were you making money at this time?
Starting point is 01:01:48 It wasn't. I was working. Like, I'd had multiple jobs. And then now I'm like, you know, there's an awkward area in your life when you either don't go to college or you drop out. And then you're seeing your friends and you're kind of like, oh, you're still in college. Like, you know, there's always that friend's lying. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:07 I'm only two more semesters away from graduate. A couple more credits. Yeah, a couple more credits, man. You know, which I only have, I think, eight more credit hours and I could have had my associate's degree. Oh, fuck. So I was like, you know, I was, it's weird because I was fucking definitely retarded in a lot of shit.
Starting point is 01:02:22 But then I was also, like, savantly, like, very intelligent on certain things. You had a good GPA, right? Yeah, yeah. I was, but then I was, I'd be, I can't fucking spell worth a shit. And my, my grammar is absolutely horrible. Yeah. But I can fucking tell you the day. definition of shit. I retain certain things.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Do you like history? Oh, I love it. I, I, I, fucking, I don't even, like, watch anything that's not educational. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm the same way. The, the history channel logo is, like, permanently burned in the bottom corner on my screen. That's far. Science, all that stuff. Yeah. I wish I was in school now, because now I actually have, like, a passion for learning, and learning things, and I'm full of tons of factoids and other crazy shit. And what were you majoring in school? I didn't, I was just going, I was just trying to get my associates. Just a general degree.
Starting point is 01:03:11 I wanted to be a youth pastor. Oh, really? I should have, I guess I should have thrown that in. Yeah. At first it was like cop, stunt man, then foot doctor, podiatrist. And then I went on this like Christian Jesus summer camp. Yeah. And then I was like, that's what I'm going to do.
Starting point is 01:03:28 I'm going to be a youth pastor so that I can positively help people with fucked up, you know, childhood. Did you have a youth pastor you really love? Yeah, no, bro, I had like, I had like two of them. Shout out to Jeff Mice and Steve Frazy. Even though I'm still bitter as fuck as they left. And they were like, well, God's calling me. You're like, no, my fuck. You get paid from this other church over here.
Starting point is 01:03:48 They got that real nice gym over there, over there. So they were at your church and they went to a different one. Yeah. It's like, it's like having a star player. You love him. He's great. And they were like a father figure. Like, you're old.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Yeah, yeah. But they're going to golden state. They weren't fucking me, you know. Yeah. Yeah. It's just cool-ass dude. And you could be real. and I was also lucky
Starting point is 01:04:06 a lot of these churches I was meeting like these entrepreneurs that had these businesses and I was seeing like what they're driving like damn you know
Starting point is 01:04:13 my guy over here is driving a Dodge Viper like what the fuck and you know next thing I'm selling fucking Kirby vacuum cleaner's door to door and I'm doing this
Starting point is 01:04:22 like every I worked at a women's clothing store I worked at Charlotte Roos for a while yeah I worked in a nursing home I was a CNA so I was like taking college classes
Starting point is 01:04:31 in high school so I had already graduated with like college credits in high school but I was also like mathematical shit I was like oh fuck like sometimes there's a lot of weird shit going on his head
Starting point is 01:04:44 I couldn't time my shoes I was like 13 or 14 We talked about the bed wedding thing One summer camp Camp Edisto I found these clips online I went in this time portal
Starting point is 01:04:58 You ever find something from a childhood And you look it up You're like oh my God it's still there Yeah yeah You remember something you've never remember before? I found this. Yeah. And you're like, how the fuck does our brain have that data and how did it randomly
Starting point is 01:05:09 just get triggered and how the fuck do I remember this now? Yeah. You know? But I went to this camp, Edisto, and I remember like praying to God, dear God, please don't let me wet the bed because I didn't want to go to summer camp. But I fucking, I went up, I was
Starting point is 01:05:25 so scared to leave because I didn't want to piss piss my bed. You got to wake up, tell the counselor, everyone knows. It's like a whole It was like, there was a couple times I would stay I'm homies and like you know how many uh couch cushions got flipped mattress got flipped it was like you know oh my god like it was the worst thing were you a pull-ups kid you were on pull-ups and shit no i would just like you just go raw dog and i would like dude i was peeing the bed even in that foster room i was peeing that but had the right sentence i will not piss the bed oh really i figured
Starting point is 01:05:52 how to write eyes like this and the then they started catching on like no you can't write your sentences like that i was like you know just the most weirdest crazy shit they don't do anymore like right one of the schools i was going to the one of the schools i was going to the one of the The monkey man, they were beating me with fucking paddles and shit. In school? Yeah. The prince would come in like, just come get these lickings, boy. Macedonia, middle school.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Oh, crazy. Okay, one thing that I want to touch on. So you wanted to be a youth pastor. So you have all these really good youth pastors. You feel connected in church. Do you ever have like a religious experience when you're growing up that you're like, yo, God is 100% real. I believe in Jesus.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Like, was there ever a moment? Like, was it a charismatic kind of thing? I feel like as a human, I always something inside of me felt that you know that humans are intelligently designed yeah like when you look at the
Starting point is 01:06:41 the biological aspects of the of the just the human itself like there's a lot of things going on that you can't can't quite comprehend right like the brain electricity like all right you know I've seen stuff where they've you know we talk about educational show I watch like they're putting like a human specimen in a room and they're extracting a DNA
Starting point is 01:07:00 and they're putting another room and they're agitating one and then the DNA in other room is reacting. What is happening, bro? Like, how is that a thing? So that brings me to like, is that the soul? Is DNA the soul? Is there a soul? Is there a consciousness?
Starting point is 01:07:14 Does consciousness stay around forever? And so, like, I definitely believe there's something out there. But I have hard times, you know, as I analyze it older I get, I'm just like, oh, I don't know, let me get this straight. Like, you're telling me that this angel came to marry. Sure. This bitch is pregnant and boom a fucking baby pops out. And then he becomes a carpenter. We don't hear nothing about a childhood.
Starting point is 01:07:38 And he gets crucified at 33. And that is why now we get to go to heaven if we accept him. But then now you're like, wait a minute. There's how many fucking other religions? And it's like mathematically the odds are stacked against you to pick the right one. How does, and we're all a product of our environment. There's a YouTube video I watched years ago and it's so amazing. And it's life.
Starting point is 01:08:01 as a video game. And it is, do yourself a favor, go watch it, it'll blow your mind, and you're like, oh my God, is this, is that what all of existence really is? Are we really in some type of simulation? An electronic
Starting point is 01:08:16 fucking transmission is all energy, it's all level of consciousness, how far does it go? We're here in Orlando, then there's Central Florida, and there's the United States, then there's the western hemisphere, then there's the earth,
Starting point is 01:08:34 then there's what is beyond, as the little trinket, those things he's called? Yeah, the babushka dolls, whatever. How far does it go? So I have a problem trying to comprehend what is the beginning.
Starting point is 01:08:49 And the Bible says he is the beginning in the end. So I'm like, when you're young, you're like, all right, cool, I'll take that. Yeah. But then I'm like, wait a minute, how the fuck can anything be the beginning of anything? So then my entire concepting and comprehension of time has to be slightly not what it really is.
Starting point is 01:09:06 So I definitely believe that I have a podcast episode. It's called God's Water Bottle. And the best way I can explain it is is that humans, you know, everything here on Earth changes form. Gas, liquid, plasma, solids, water, so on and so on, so on. And we can manipulate matter and change its form. but almost everything on this earth has still been here other than like some you know space debris you know asteroid here and there yeah whatever so nothing really been added or taken away from the ingredients of it's mostly zero sum exactly so what fucks me up is how the fuck was uh this water bottle
Starting point is 01:09:52 was made we manipulated this water bottle but that water bottle will always just be a water bottle That water bottle will never be like, oh, I know where I came from. That human over there milting me down into some plastics and then put me in this press and send me down as assembly line. Here I am. Here's my purpose in life. So in a way, I feel all humans are just kind of like a water bottle and will never be able to comprehend or grasp.
Starting point is 01:10:18 And many people, sadly, go their entire life, not even questioning what is all this? Which is, you would think, you know, all these wars. and all those other crazy shit we put so much emphasis in. You know, it's kind of a sad reality that people literally live, I mean, you go on TikTok for five seconds
Starting point is 01:10:38 and you would definitely wonder where the fuck are their brain cells. Right. And does this person even contemplate the idea of what is out there? Where do we come from? Why are we here? I feel like so many people are on this autopilot switch,
Starting point is 01:10:52 so they just jump into the norm. And that's it. Let me go to work. Work my ass off. Oh, you'll let me have Saturday. And Sunday, you are a gracious king. Oh, one day I will procreate. And a lot of stuff, I go down wormholes, man.
Starting point is 01:11:08 I go down some deep shit. We can talk about fucking buttholes, midget shippers. And then boom, we're fucking on ancient aliens and fucking Skinwalker Ranch. Yes. Yeah. My buddy owns that place, Brandon Fogle. What do you mean? He owns Skinwalker Ranch.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Yeah, he's the new owner. He's since 2016. And what's his take on Skinwalkers? Can you explain what a Skinwalker is? Oh. Or what they think it is? How much time be having this podcast? Skinwalker Ranch is an area in northern Utah that is, has the most proven, seen, and studied unexplained phenomenons.
Starting point is 01:11:43 And not just one, not two, but several. They're like the Super Bowl of everything. You got the fucking UFOs. You got the grounds doing all kind of radioactive activity. you've got just you got fucking some type of werewolf fucking
Starting point is 01:12:00 crazy monster portals portals like fuck all the alien shit and the calumulation you ever see all the cows like oh wow there's not a drop of blood that's all happening there's no blood in them yeah the chupacabra shit
Starting point is 01:12:14 chupaccapa is like the Puerto Rican legendary it's like their own like Sasquatch yeah yeah but this Skinwalker place is is getting so much attention now because you've heard about it if you're into that type of stuff. But then when you look into it, you're like, wait a minute, it's
Starting point is 01:12:35 checking all the boards here. You got the Indians over there and all this and the beef and you got these old people that have been there for years. The government with Robert Bigelow he's like a kind of like another Elon in a way. He's in the aerospace field. Well, he has a fucking, he owned it. And they spent 20 years the government was, you know, basically doing a black op funded study and all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Everything's going on there. It's just like, the UFO shit's like the normal stuff. Right. So what do you think it is? Are you a believer in like cryptids? Or you think it's like government shit? If you were to ask me, just five fucking years ago, you know, like some Alex Joan lizard people shit, I'd be like,
Starting point is 01:13:18 hail to the fuck. No. I'm like, nah, nah, nah. but the intelligence side of me goes okay well if something something just so magical life and all existence happened because there's something like crazy shit going on there's like black holes there's other universes turning sun's exploding that shit sounds like fairy tale talk but then everything in our very minute little fucking minuscule mind we're so arrogant as humans we literally think that we're entitled to like this explanation like I've I've been
Starting point is 01:13:51 But I know I did. I feel like we're all under assumption and we die. We walk into a room like we're going on a Disney ride, like the haunted mansion. And they show you a monitor. Hey, guys, congratulations. You did. You need to your first phase.
Starting point is 01:14:03 But you're going to need your packet and this is what you're going to need for your next life, so on and so on. And we're not guaranteed that. And we never know. And what it is? Who knows? Like, do we just fucking die? And that's it.
Starting point is 01:14:12 There's no level of consciousness. Yeah. Do we just go back to where we were before we were born? Yeah. Which is. Who knows? Who knows? And I'd hate to believe.
Starting point is 01:14:21 that Adolf Hitler and fucking Mother Teresa are in the same place. Right. You would think there is some type of justice. Justice. Justice to that. And then, you know, there's all kinds of shitty stuff. Like, I have to be honest with myself. I'm constantly evolving my thoughts and consciousness
Starting point is 01:14:37 of like, what is it all? And it sucks because when you start to think, you become like, you start going down some shit and you started thinking way, way crazy. So I said, fuck it. I went to the church. start the Saucis Castle and now I'm kind of like the crazy preacher that serves beer at church
Starting point is 01:14:57 Yeah, yeah yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I'm not pushing any like agenda. They ain't like no cult type of shit, you know, it's fucking just like, hey man, I don't care what walk of life you are. Gay, straight, Christian, atheist, Muslim, whoever. Yeah. It doesn't matter who I don't care who you voted for, you know, I totally think that, you know, as long as you're not hurting animals, children and women, and you're just being a good person, do what you want. Right. If you want to, if you want to, you want to, you want to to sell photos with your butthole online, then do it. So that, was that always the goal of
Starting point is 01:15:27 Sausage Castle? Like one, two, and three? Or did it slowly evolve into that? Well, I never thought there'd ever be another one. It was like, oh, what? We're going to do this again? Oh, shit, doing it again. And then I'd say about like, the third or fourth, I'm like, okay, I'm in this. And then people were like, you can't always do this forever, Mac. You know, like, you've got to grow up
Starting point is 01:15:43 someday. So part of me has that Peter Pan syndrome that I'm like, no, fuck it. I'm going to own a carnival right. And no, I'm going to do this. And no, I'm a humanity is definitely gets trapped in this very simple fucking just dumb like no you do this
Starting point is 01:16:00 okay and it's crazy you ever like just be on a highway and you watch cars drive and just like damn they're just going to their fucking job yes sucking today's dick and going back home what's that word I think it's slopsism have ever heard of that oh yes or it's like you have this realization that other people are like their own little
Starting point is 01:16:17 main characters and they're like living in a little back to that video game thing explains that video I was telling you about it explains your whole life and you're based upon what it's funny because it shows like the globe and it says yeah so when you spawn in your character some areas are more dangerous another they're showing like Africa like red or
Starting point is 01:16:34 yeah yeah yeah and some places are more neutral like Europe and then you have like some are like green they're like oh this is a desired place you want to live in America you have electricity and shit not that they don't have it everywhere else but you got this perception of you know you are a product of your environment
Starting point is 01:16:48 and definitely yeah if you have fucking appearance and weren't lazy pieces of shit. Maybe they had a business and maybe you could afford to go on field trips and not have to sell basketball cards to go on, you know, field trips and shit like that. So Sausage Castle 1-2 and 3. This is like early 2000s.
Starting point is 01:17:04 You're not making any money. Hell of the fucking. You're like fucking doing whatever jobs you can. I'm damn near ready to jack off a wall of dicks to pay my rent until six years ago. Okay. That recent. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:14 This is new money shit. This is all this. See this fancy ass throwing these guns? This is new, new, new. So how do you get to that? that point though like like because i got i was journal i've been the best thing i ever fucking did and i used to i ate they haunt me i can hear these motherfuckers tell me oh my girl you're like you're like you think people are going to pay five dollars to come to your house but i was like this
Starting point is 01:17:38 super intricate like no let's let's let's take this stupid shitty you know the the movie blow like the poster yeah it's like this giant one there was like the mounds of money and stuff so i was like kind of like, no, I'm going to like put it here. And like I'm going to unscrew the lights. I'm going to throw like a towel over this like I'm going to create an experience. So I'm creating an atmosphere so that people can come and instead of like you've been to a house party where they got all the fucking lights up and there's one fucking stupid bowl of popcorn at table and they might have like MTV. I don't think they even play music videos anymore. But in the background, everyone's like yeah, it's so cool.
Starting point is 01:18:18 Yeah. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're doing it wrong. You got to, like, create, you got to go more crazy with it. And this is before, like, you know, MTV Cribs and shit. People didn't have fucking shipper poles in their house. Like, I remember seeing, like, big boy from Outcast. Like, yeah, what's up? This is my, this my super pole and strip club.
Starting point is 01:18:33 And that was the craziest shit. Yeah, but to me, I was like, yo, I was, like, building that shit out of some shitty-ass PVC pipe from Home Depot and just, like, just creatively making spaces to get different. experiences from people. Temperature, light, sound, the smell, the way the things look. You're learning the science of the party. Exactly. There's a lot of science to it. You know, like that John Taffer from Bar Rescue, he's like, the butt funnel,
Starting point is 01:19:00 man. You've got to create they're intimately gathering this area, so they're socializing and then the price of drinks, you know, the food, and they want to stay longer. So I was always like this people pleaser. What's the thing they say? You know, like the tears of a clown. Like, I'm the clown and I'm the one that's endured all these like hardships in life.
Starting point is 01:19:23 I know how much it sucks to not have stability and how much it pains to have to deal with certain things. And at the end of the day, it fucking sucked in the moment. But now I got fucking street credit on deck. I'm like, I'm like any goddamn rapper has been shot up all these times. Like, bitch, I fucking just roll out my roller decks of foster home monkeys and shit. I'm like, come at me. I got street credit for days.
Starting point is 01:19:47 Yeah. And that's where sometimes I feel now my brand and what I'm doing is cheapen because now it's like, oh, now they got money, which the ironicness of it is. It's like, no money, more problems, as the great profit, notorious BIG said. And it's, I couldn't. When you're broke and you're angry at these kids that have Jordans and you're watching them drive these fancy cars, their mom and dad bite them. And you're fucking bitter. You're like, fuck you. But it created this passionate, insane workaholic psycho.
Starting point is 01:20:17 in me to just go and get it. And I hate to sound like some fucking bullshit like mystic type of guy. But yo, like energy's real and what you put out there. And I'd say about 10 years ago, I watched that stupid fucking video, which is not stupid. The secret. Yeah. And I watched it. My hair dresser.
Starting point is 01:20:39 Like, you've got to watch this, Mike. It's going to change your life. And her name was Mary Donovan. And she showed it to me. And this is before, like, YouTube you could just go pull up anything you wanted like I was on YouTube I was one of the first like 100,000 people on YouTube for sure wow I was telling people like yo uh this thing called YouTube and what do you mean and I was doing what they call podcast now mm we called it internet radio and I I in between it's only these crazy parties I won this contest where they wanted to they called it home invasion shout out to my buddy
Starting point is 01:21:15 buck ahead and bull a local rock station here. I love that all your friends just have like objects for names. Yes. You're like we got turbo, squid. Oh yeah. Did you meet Turbo last night?
Starting point is 01:21:26 I met Turbo. Yeah, he's good. He's a great guy. We love them. We love them. So, uh, this radio station contest, I went,
Starting point is 01:21:33 they do a live broadcast from my house. I'm going, I'm learning the internet game. I'm working at Clear Channel. I'm doing the intern bitch. I'm learning a little bit of this thing. I'm my big ass head, got all these hats on it.
Starting point is 01:21:43 And you're still throwing parties the whole time. Throwing parties. That's paying rent. flipping kegs. I'm fucking, I mean, it's scary ass shit. You know, sometimes, you know how many times I went to the Hard Rock Casino to fucking try to flip my rent money? Like, I lived
Starting point is 01:21:57 in my house one time for 14 days with no power. Like, I've, nothing is more demoralizing than, like, watching someone, like, talk shit about you because you're broke and you're fucking loser. I have certain girlfriends, like, voices in my
Starting point is 01:22:12 head. Like, you're fucking loser. I can never do nothing with your life. and you fucking you need to grow up you can't do this forever and I did believe certain things I'm like yeah
Starting point is 01:22:21 I'm like 25 no I can't just throw parties Right oh really I gotta grow up At a certain point You were like I might just throw it away I thought about it
Starting point is 01:22:29 You get a job somewhere You're homeless You're fucking You know sleeping in your homies garage Or some shit And you know I would acquire all kinds of shit
Starting point is 01:22:39 I've always been like a dumpster diver I'd be picking up I had every fucking If you had a plether couch In central Florida in the last 20 years I may have may not slept on it and had it. And at one point,
Starting point is 01:22:48 I was, like, putting couches around my pool and just, like, weird things. So people come home, be like, what the fuck? He has this whole room that, you know, blah, blah, blah. All these other crazy things. We were doing, painting different bright, crazy colors. And just have, and I was in the music industry. So I had people come over recording.
Starting point is 01:23:07 And, you know, I'm having some of the biggest artists in the world coming over and recording at the Sossess Castle. Like who? Everybody. everybody every every I've had the biggest music artists and I've had you name it machine gun Kelly yeah okay post Malone post Malone had his 21st birthday party at my house not this one the South Castle 7 prior to here really yeah and I'm meeting these people are very very early under the career right like you know I was trying to convince like girls you know can you come over here
Starting point is 01:23:39 holler my boy mjk uh she's like who's that and then like like a couple years later hey what's up can you give me on the list. I'm like, yeah, okay. This is that Mike Jones shit, back then. Back then, hose Dan Womee, now I'm hot, hos all over. And I do have a little bit of that golden midas touch, because I do, the artistic side of me definitely knows good music when I fucking hear it. And I've, I know everybody. When you're doing this, you know, you meet everybody. I'm like the ethical Epstein. You know, no kids are getting fucked here, right? But every important person, I'm talking, I've had CIA agents here.
Starting point is 01:24:14 Really? Oh, yeah. Like, they. I'm homie, homie, homies. I get a call right now. Like, we go out drunk and I'm slapping motherfuckers in the forehead with their badge and shit. That's crazy. I've called the police and myself just so we could just show off and show the badge. Like, can we just, are we allowed to take their cars we want to? You know, just like fun, crazy shit, you know?
Starting point is 01:24:33 And why are you in the music biz? Like, at that, at this point. I just always had a, like, a ear for music. And we had built a recording studio because you got that Wu-Tang Financial, baby. You got diversize your bonds. You got to not always the fucking throwing parties might not always be some. sufficient. You got to fucking come up with multiple hustle. So I'm under the
Starting point is 01:24:50 umbrella of entertainment. So there's the sausage castle. There is, like I was saying, like, I was helping a buddy, his name's Brad Huntsdale. He owns Ustream TV. And I, uh, it was one of the first, first, like,
Starting point is 01:25:06 good functioning live broadcast sites. Yeah. This is before like, I don't know, it wasn't an app at the time. Rogan used to stream on Uststrel. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Well, I helped developed that with the owners I when I left radio I was like
Starting point is 01:25:22 all right I'm gonna fucking do this internet radio shit and everyone laughed at me like yeah okay Mike they were like they were like basically the industry the people I knew they thought I was a fucking psycho yeah okay but then I was like yo man I can I can I was using other things
Starting point is 01:25:37 I just like called stick cam that was like later on and and then I would broadcast live from my house and I had like a hot dog roller and it had like a piece of paper and it said call me and then I was learning like code through like my space shout out to tom anderson I would be like all right pacman slash center I was like learning how to do basic HTML coding wow and then I was really good at marketing my stuff and because I was already street I have a fucking master's degree in any type of that type of shit
Starting point is 01:26:09 when it comes to that uh just marketing and getting your shit out there and it's before it's the fucking internet. And I was knocking on doors like a Joe Witness, handing people flyers and shit. And house parties are culturally, they're still, like, they'll never go away. Clubs are cool, but they're overplayed, overhyped, overpriced. A million percent. Yeah. And in a home situation, it's dynamic. So I've kind of made my home like this nightclub fucked up like summer camp for adults. Right. You got the summer camp vibes. Oh dear God, don't let me piss the bed. Oh shit, my life's crazy. Yes. I don't have the stability. I just, my friends are my homies. Oh, we're going to
Starting point is 01:26:43 do this forever. Sock, Dave. Oh, you got married, you piece of shit. You know, like, oh, all right, I'll keep this going. So I had homies in the beginning of the Sotsky guys were falling off and going back to, they just quit. They went back to normal life. Right. And they weren't passionate about the dream. And I saw what we could be doing. And, like, I was making money.
Starting point is 01:27:01 You know, like you mentioned Jellarroll. That's my homie. I directed his first music video ever did. I asked you about Jelleryl because I love Jelleyroll. He came and hung with us when we were in Miami. He did a music video of me, him, Schultz, Alex Media. I was texting him. I'm like, you know Andrew
Starting point is 01:27:15 Schultz? I'm like, bro, because I'm like, I'm deep into the comedy game too. I was recording things as the improv. I was like, when the music side, the studio, recording all these like big time artists coming over shooting music videos. I direct music videos too. So,
Starting point is 01:27:31 I'm like sitting here like, hey, I'll start going to improv, recording these comics, and then giving them I'm going there with pro tools, all these mics. I'm getting mic in the crowd and getting a little on. And how old are you when you're doing this? Early 20s. Right. But you were just so eager to get on and you're like, I'm going to do something and not go to this regular grind. Yeah. I'm like, no, I'm going to make this shit work. So if I'm not
Starting point is 01:27:51 throwing a house party, I'm doing radio. And I know I'm not completing any of these fucking stories. And I know. No, no, we're with it. It's, uh, this is pretty much what my podcast is like. Perfect. Okay. So, so you, so we do the music video with Jelly Roll. And he's just like the fucking man. He's just like so cool. But then I'm noticing so many crossovers with you. you guys oh dude there's like uh so many like i see like my homie burke reichher yes love him legend he he's been to my home we've had me you guys did the pod together i listen to it was yeah we did i was on his podcast like 2014 or something yeah long it might even later or earlier now i don't know it was a long long time ago and this whole podcast shit i had a little chip on my shoulder i'm like
Starting point is 01:28:31 pun so i got mad because i was like i was doing the it was like if you watched like the old school like public access tv yeah i I was broadcasting my home and my life before like social media. Like before everyone knew about like, you know, there's a thing called MySpace. And I was posting bulletins and putting in like a chat room. I'd have my different cameras on Ustream. And then I would talk to the owners. And I'm like, hey, I would draw them like a diagram.
Starting point is 01:28:59 I'm like, yo, you need to make this interface a little more like friendly for illiterate fucking computer users. Yeah. And then I would be like, okay, I got all my jackass buddies. They're working because I'm doing stuff with. jackass. I'm like booking all their appearances and tours and shows. And then I'm learning stuff from
Starting point is 01:29:16 like my buddy Steve-o. I'm watching everything come together and I'm getting thousands of dollars to pay it to a club he doesn't want to show up at, gets drunk and destroy shit. And I'm seeing all this like crazy shit going on and then I'm realizing like, hmm, I could
Starting point is 01:29:32 do this version but I wouldn't have to have this person, that person there. And I know how to babysit like a bunch of crazy assholes and have the respect to know that we have to show up on time. Like, I was always ethically business, like, perfect. I never fucked even over. I never, you know, I've always under-promised and over-delivered.
Starting point is 01:29:54 And just my work ethic alone, I shit on anybody. Like, I'm mad that I have to sleep. I sleep four hours a day. Really? If that. How much you sleep last night? Hour and 45 minutes. Wow.
Starting point is 01:30:04 But then, like, I'm on right now. I'm on the rush and excitement because something inside of my, fucking big ass head just rock hard Willie love seeing people come and maybe it's on this like Willy Wonka type of shit like come and Julie this world I built
Starting point is 01:30:22 for you right and everything I'm buying is for everyone what am I going to I think fits like 16 people what the fuck I'm gonna write this shit by myself right yeah everything's for the people yeah so and luckily that's worked out with my finances too like you know I got audited they were like yo what the fuck where did you come from yeah like I was like you know, couch surfing, you know, I was sublety, I was renting homes, calling them the
Starting point is 01:30:45 saucy castle, slapping the brand on it, moving people in, sublenting, throwing parties, creating not just a place to live, but an experience, because I was catering to people that had jobs and had money and interesting people. Like, now you see all these, like, shows are so fabricated and shit. Like, like, no, I got, if you type in midget on my phone, we're talking 70, 80, like, just contacts. Like, I'd be literally the, most I love Seemed unique people. There was a, was it last night?
Starting point is 01:31:17 Or it was Friday night. There's this dude showed up here. I do think with Disney World too, they bring all their college program international students here. So for the last 20 plus years Disney World drives over these giant buses and drops off hundreds
Starting point is 01:31:32 and thousands of fucking employees. Yeah, why are they down with that? Your brand and their brand are so at art. It's not on the, books with them. It's one of those like, okay, this is another company, another promoter will pick them up because a lot of them don't have cars, you know,
Starting point is 01:31:48 and they're just fucking damn near legally human trafficking people to make you know, fucking $10 an hour. And they live on property, these apartment complexes, and they take their rent out of their paycheck. And when they're not working for Mickey Mouse, they want to go ape shit
Starting point is 01:32:04 crazy. And then they're driven 45 minutes into the middle of nowhere and dropped at my house. They don't know what to fucking think. And then they know that my parties aren't like a typical
Starting point is 01:32:14 party. It's not like, it's like some bullshit bob through a kegger and you know, no, like motherfucker there's security. There's,
Starting point is 01:32:20 there's like probably fucking 20 different wristbands that will tell you where you can and cannot go in the home. Yeah, it's a whole operation. Yeah, it's like I've, I have insanely
Starting point is 01:32:32 literally have tried to create the most unique experience, create the most safest fun. nods, judgmental. I don't care if you're fucking... Like, I've had a guy who is definitely on the spectrum.
Starting point is 01:32:47 Shout to Daniel. And he's probably here right now, just living his best life, hanging out with people that... And you'll see a Trump fucking voter. Then you'll see like a super liberal, green-haired fucking feminist, angry lesbian. You'll see a couple trainees over here.
Starting point is 01:33:04 Everyone's just viving. Right. Like, no one's caring. And they're, like, learning from each other and they're, it's probably my most proudest accomplishment because I've created a space where like, we prefer an intelligent, hardworking person that's, you know, go-getter, that's not a piece of shit.
Starting point is 01:33:22 But all are welcomed that come with respect and follow the simple rules. And you'll never go to a place, a club, a bar, a concert, anywhere and see what goes on here. What was the first party that you threw where you were like? It was Halloween. Oh, this is different.
Starting point is 01:33:38 Which is, yeah, so the first drunk people in costumes, which is what we named the Halloween party, was at the very first sausage castle. And it was just mass hysteria. Like the whole fucking neighborhood was like, what the fuck? Every old lady coming out in their fucking robe. Like, what the hell? Calling the police. Like every crazy thing you've had. I'm the asshole at the party that has a better story, unfortunately.
Starting point is 01:34:02 Yeah. Sometimes someone will get to talking. And I'm just like, I got to get it up. I don't want to talk about it. Yeah, man. One time this chick, man, I saw this chick kissing another chick. It's crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:14 And I'm like, no, just don't because it'll turn it into fucking next thing. We're talking about goddamn Skinwalker Ranch. Like, I have collected a lot of experiences life and experienced a lot of awesome, unique things that a lot of people consider fucking mind-blowing. But it was that first Halloween party, you were like, oh, this is a whole operation. Like thousands of people showing up at just a house and a neighborhood. Yeah, I was like, okay, we need to lighting, sound. DJ. And that sounds whatever now, but early 2000s, no one's like, not everyone's having a fucking DJ and a Super Bowl. Who are the Seuss? A blind psychic fucking doing terror card reading and shit. We lost the fucking key to the hearse. We were shuttling people.
Starting point is 01:34:53 Dan Bolzerian came to like drunk people in costumes, I think like six, five or six. And no one knew who he was. He was roommates with my buddy who is now in the CIA. And he brought him because I was. I went to high school with him. He brought Dan Plesserian to my Halloween party, and you had to park at this country club, because we live in a nice, fancy little neighborhood. And you got in this hearse, like an old 1973 cat, like a black hearse. He got on this fucking, just disgusting mattress
Starting point is 01:35:27 that looked like a prostitute that fucking died that I found it behind like a public's fucking dumpster. And then we had this VHS TV combo, and me and my buddy recorded this like a whole intro, like, hey everyone, you're about to go to my fucking house. We're going to go through a few simple rules. And I had my buddy dressed up like this crazy Adam's family, like driver, and he's all in character.
Starting point is 01:35:50 And then you took the hearse down to this like lake. And then there's a Grim Reaper on like a gondola boat. And he doesn't talk and there's a lantern. And you came to the back of the house on this lake. And you don't know how to fucking get there. And we were at capacity. And then, you know, it's just a shit show. And every Halloween party.
Starting point is 01:36:07 have thrown has been like it's our big wild crazy thing it's kind of like our Super Bowl but that first thing is what kind of like spawned into like the streets were hot after that because they were like yo this guy's throwing the most craziest shit and he's like you know putting all this extra touches on it yeah I mean I got a
Starting point is 01:36:23 fucking a candy shop barber shop liquor bar in my bathroom people come to my house here at satsky gasoline and will be in my bathroom for four hours and never even see any of the 80 acres other shit Yeah, I mean, it's insane.
Starting point is 01:36:39 And who was like the first person, like celebrity that showed up? And you were like, wait, these people were coming? Amari Stadamire. He was in high school and he went to Cypress Creek High, which was right on the street from Sotsky Castle 2. And I remember opening the door and it's like this giant fucking dude. I'm like, oh, shit. And I thought for sure, I didn't know who the fuck he was at the time. But he didn't want to pay five bucks.
Starting point is 01:37:03 I didn't let him in. I was like, hey, bro. And then we became homies like after a while. And then he'd come over playing Blackjack. And we were just watching the next to know, he's like getting drafted. Crazy. And we're like, holy shit, he's rookie to the year.
Starting point is 01:37:21 And this is that. Yeah, tell me about David Blaine. David Blaine came over to the previous Sausassie Castle, Sossackle 7. He, we were on our way on a tour to go. I have a live stage show. I don't know if you guys at home are fucking writing this shit down. Sausess Castle podcast guy
Starting point is 01:37:40 fucking first in the game I tried to sell Ustream TV to fucking Mark Cuban I was gonna make some money off it He didn't he said he didn't want it And then IBM bought it for like 100 And I think I forget 100 plus million later
Starting point is 01:37:54 And I was helping him with the interface And now everyone thinks live stream is whatever At one point Wikipedia Had me listed As the first Entertainer to broadcast live on social media Wow So, like, I was one of the OGs.
Starting point is 01:38:11 Now it's like 10-year-olds are around around their fucking iPhone. Recording everything. Fucking everything. I'm like, motherfucker. You had no idea. I was connecting firewire cables. I was running tape. I grew up in a tape era.
Starting point is 01:38:23 So I was like, no, we're not going to use that damn digital car. What if it fuck's up? We'll never have these memories again. Hilarious. Right here, down here, I have literally like 500 plus like tapes. I've been filming all this. Yeah. So I'm the dude can be the asshole to probably tell you story.
Starting point is 01:38:36 And then boom, I'll just like. like show you. You and Steveo are like this. Steve's got everything on tape. He totally does. And I was, at one point I was like, uh, it was, it was in the middle of his bad area. Like,
Starting point is 01:38:48 it was real bad. I was like sleeping on his couch for a couple weeks. And, uh, he's like, yeah, dude, you want to stay here. You can stay with me. I was like,
Starting point is 01:38:54 I've been here for two weeks, dog. And he's just going ape shit crazy. He was in the middle of his like rap career. And, uh, so all my jackass homies, I was basically like getting the books and doing shows and being like,
Starting point is 01:39:05 their, they're babysitter trying to make them money. Steve, Steve, is just like one of the most amazing human beings. I'm so proud to see, like, where he's evolved to now. He's in a great spot. Oh, man, because there was like...
Starting point is 01:39:18 His comedy special. The intro to the special is crazy. We filmed it here. Really? Did you see it? Because I actually haven't seen the full, like... I saw a sneak peek. I don't want to give it away, but it's crazy.
Starting point is 01:39:27 There's a helicopter involved? Okay, that was all filmed here. Really? Yeah. Oh, that's insane. So I, you know, directed and produced that part of the production of it. Oh, wow. with the rest of the team.
Starting point is 01:39:38 So yeah. Okay, David Blaine. What did David Blaine? Oh, yeah. God damn, David Blaine. We were going to tour. I was hosting the gathering of juggalo's ICP shit. They're like, oh, we bring this crazy ratchet motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:39:48 The stage show I have. It's a bunch of hot, sexy, burliss, fire breathing girls, and there's a 500-pound black dude. There's a midget and all that kind of weird shit. And we got an email from ABC, or was David Blaine directly or someone, they're like, hey, we need a place to shoot guns. can we come film? Like, yeah. And like, we'll pay you. I was like,
Starting point is 01:40:09 we'll do what? I'm here. So, I'm still doing work for free because I love it. Right. Like, I've worked on all kinds of huge, I mean, I don't know if you check out my IMDB page.
Starting point is 01:40:19 I got a few credits on there. Yeah. And I got the email from David and he came over and he was filming a show where he wanted to shoot himself with a gun. And I was like, shit. Souscals had a lot of shit happen,
Starting point is 01:40:33 but we've never actually shot him with a gun. Yeah. Like, we take pride line. No one's been stabbed or shot or killed. Yeah. You actually don't, it's like Disney where you don't die here. Your carcass gets taken off the property. You're pronounced dead at the hospital.
Starting point is 01:40:44 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, uh, David Lane, for the first hour, I was like, damn, he's really fucking just stonewall. Like, yes, I'm going to shoot myself. And then, like, two hours into it, we're just, like, laughing and cracking up. Some crazy Colombian dude flew on a jet. I think he promised his family. They were going to the fucking Disney World. And he shows up.
Starting point is 01:41:05 at Soskell 7, which it was in St. Cloud, Osceola County, right outside of Orlando. And a 30-acre, I lived on Alligator Lake, and 80% of my property is swamp. It's just alligators. And the house looks like the house of Thousand Corpse. There's fucking skulls everywhere. There's a giant Unidolph of Manatee, half dolphin, half unicorn, half-manate fucking. Our buddy Rick Kosick, a jackass camera guy, legend. And it's fucking him on the garage door.
Starting point is 01:41:32 You know, like, there's a giant black dillo. you had to grab to open up the door like everything there's swings in the house there's way to take a fucking swing down to do this interview yeah crazy this podcast yeah I like the swings actually it's a nice touch it's fun it's because I'm morbidly fat sometimes I need an extra hand to get by the bed it's my life roller
Starting point is 01:41:50 help me get me the fuck out of here but uh David Blaine's like yeah we're gonna fucking uh I'm gonna fucking uh shoot myself this Columbia new comes in and I guess he makes like this crazy special like Kevlar clothing that like every president every king every prime minister whatever the fuck they're all secretly
Starting point is 01:42:10 wearing yeah they're all like a lot of their clothes are bulletproof and he puts on this jacket we break out the gun we put in the bullet everything and uh I remember being bum because like actually I remember
Starting point is 01:42:25 excited because now we're going to get paid to use as a location but then I was like you know doing production stuff like yeah you want to use this fucking flamethrower we were shooting all this stuff out of him cards and he was doing some fun cool shit and I was like whoa this shit's real this motherfucker's a psycho right we're loving it and uh
Starting point is 01:42:41 we got paid the shoot and I was really excited about the public's food we were really excited because we were broke as fuck and we weren't even having to get enough gas money to get where we were we were in a short school bus with no AC with 20 people traveling the country like pulling up where homie was clea like coming up on stage and our whole circus
Starting point is 01:42:59 crew doing a live interactive stage show so it wasn't for David Blaine we wouldn't actually got to our booking because they sent you a deposit you're broke as fuck you pay all the bills then and then you got to borrow more money by the time you had to go there to get there right thank god did blank him over and shot himself with a gun and he really he shot himself yeah in the chest yeah just like this and it stopped and then i was like mind blown i was like holy shit yeah oh yeah it was on like his tv show oh he actually put it and why couldn't he just do it why did he want to do it here like why couldn't he just go to like you couldn't like not you can't shoot guns anywhere so you could you come to Susscals, to blow shit up and do crazy stuff. And I get in these circles, and you're in the entertainment industry. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:41 You know some of the coolest, most famous motherfuckers on the planet. I mean, you've had literally, you know, the most seen and subscribed YouTuber in the world. Mr. Peace just sitting there hanging out with you fucking hours.
Starting point is 01:43:52 Yeah, he's the best. All these amazing fucking people. Once you are, are in business and you're ethically doing what you're supposed to be doing, not being a piece of shit, not fucking kids.
Starting point is 01:44:04 raping bitches and you know running the fucking puppy mills or whatever the fuck you're doing yeah and you're passionate and you're hard working and you love doing it man if you just stay insanely on that road eventually mathematically the universe can only shit on you so much right
Starting point is 01:44:19 so then you eventually do go you get in these weird situation every fucking it's almost like every week I'll get a text even your even your DM like you know what up I'm like dude dude oh man okay I know that handsome motherfucker I was I know he's from here and my boy Miguel's like yeah yeah he's he's been doing shit here around central
Starting point is 01:44:38 florida forever so florida boys exactly we got to sit together exactly i'm with it i'm like yo man that's that's that's you're all the you're doing all the parts yeah yeah yeah i'm i'm a huge fan of andrew's comedy it's smart intelligent it's it's brave not to us it's not yeah it's everyone else that lives in this like simple oh don't cancel me yeah he's saying what everyone's thinking and he's doing intelligently it's fucking hilarious Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's so good. Like, I remember Andrew would be like, yeah, turn your phone this way.
Starting point is 01:45:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, I was just watching, taking from a distance. And I'm not like a hater. I'm, I always like, show love and appreciate when I put respect on it. And then I'm like, yo, he's like, fucking my boy, jelly roll, this dad. I love it. All these, like, cool people are, like, coming to my fucking house. It's all connecting.
Starting point is 01:45:27 For years, for years. And next thing, you're like, next thing you're, like, next thing you're fucking doing stuff with Elon Musk and shit. I get to go on SpaceX NASA missions. Wait, really? Yeah. What do you mean? All right. So shout out to Steve-o because he brought my buddy Walter, who's now like my homie.
Starting point is 01:45:45 Like we talk like fucking every day, always texting and calling each other. And he is like the most bad ass fucking like pilot on the planet. And he's done like some crazy shit. Like he was, I don't even know everything. He was doing stuff with like contractors like Blackwater and shit. Yeah, yeah. You know, he wasn't killing, shooting a bunch of little Afghan kids or anything. But he was in it.
Starting point is 01:46:07 He definitely got some stories. Yeah. Well, we used him as the pilot to do this particular thing. So if you go see Steveo's bucket list tour, you'll see an intro that can only be seen there. And we filmed the beginning of that here at the Soss Castle. Yeah. We're like building the most craziest shit. We're talking like we're like a ratchet, no budgeted universal studios.
Starting point is 01:46:32 And Hollywood, it's overpriced, overhyped. It's difficult to work inside. Yeah, we directed a music video for 3-6 Mafia, and we had to spend $10,000 to have a fire marshal on set, and all he did was fucking read a book outside. I was like, there's not even fire in this video. Yeah. There's girls twerking in a living room.
Starting point is 01:46:49 Which that's fire. With Juicy Jay and DJ Paul, like Project Patti. Like, what is the only fire they're doing is smoking that fucking fire as we do? Yeah, yeah. So when did you actually start making money, money? Like, when does that happen? I get little licks here and there. So the stage show.
Starting point is 01:47:02 I was doing like the shittiest shithole bars performing in front of people basically bringing the sausage castle to a bar nightclub near you and then I was like all right we're gonna do this and we're gonna we're gonna get like 500 hot pockets and we're gonna have like clowns at the end
Starting point is 01:47:20 as they come out and hand them out to the people and then we're gonna put our stickers on the hot pocket like little sleeve and then we're gonna like you know I was when I saw a man on the moon with Andy Kaufman story, I was inspired how, like, they would take everyone from Carnegie Hall,
Starting point is 01:47:36 like, in a fucking, a school bus and take them to a cafeteria and a Santa Claus and Cooks him. I love all that, like, crazy experience because I want people to, like, have this unique experience. You know, that's why I go the extra mile and do all that.
Starting point is 01:47:51 And yeah, I'm a very troubled soul. Yeah, and I'm not, like, on some Robin Williams, I'm going to kill my shit, but, like, I know how much it, life can be, like how heavy it can be, especially now, more than ever, mental health is like, now it's like, you don't have to be a pussy.
Starting point is 01:48:09 You know, you can talk about it. It's important for people to have some type of escape from the harsh reality's life, and people can say whatever they want about me on the internet, they can talk shit, whatever, I don't care. Like, I used to be like, I remember the first time I saw someone on MySpace, write something, you don't like, oh my God. I was like,
Starting point is 01:48:27 I was like, shook. I was shook. You're kind of sensitive in that way. Yeah, I'm a little petty every now and I'm Oh, motherfucker block. I love it. Yeah. It's like, I keep the positive energy around me. And I used to hold on the shit. I used to hear, I had back to the secret thing, ooh, I circled back.
Starting point is 01:48:42 I watched that thing. And at first of that, that was a bunch of hokey pokey shit. But then I was starting to see that like, okay, I wake up in the morning if I stumped my toe, then, oh, fuck, the water's not on because I didn't pay the bill. Oh, shit. Then you spiral into this, like. Negativity. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:56 It is somewhat connected. So you can definitely. manipulate the universe in your favor if you play it the right way right okay so you don't listen to every oh you have to do this you think outside the box you do it and know it sounds crazy but you
Starting point is 01:49:13 say alright fuck I want to do this and you do that and then you just do it and then you don't fucking take no and you just keep pushing keep pushing and keep pushing so the actual money though like when did it start getting stage show yeah no you're I'm wearing you down I know there's a lot of shit Elon Musk over here we haven't got to you
Starting point is 01:49:28 we're gonna get to SpaceX in a second but the actual like money money where it's like oh now it's different we can get. I was throwing parties and like I was charging people like you know 20 30 40 I remember the first time I like wanted to charge someone 100 bucks and I was I did it like all right they're not going to do this and they did
Starting point is 01:49:45 it like and then there was like people like bootlegging like selling counterfeit like tickets to my shit wow and this one guy if I find him to this day we're going to have it's on site he made like five grand off me and selling all these tickets and these people were showing up and I'm like
Starting point is 01:50:01 yeah what the fuck is this and uh i was like all right well just let them in they fit money let's just let them in and we'll worry about it we have a line because like there were times where these disney kids would come at disney college breakup students call them kids and i'm 41 but uh they're all fucking showing up and it gets it gets very overwhelming you get a lot of like you got to have the sense of emergency you have a psycho yeah like i'm running around fucking sweeping up and moving things around and it's created a very bad oCD like i won't even go to bed until my floor's vacuumed I'm straightening things up and I haven't always been a pussy like that
Starting point is 01:50:32 I always like would make fun of people like yo you're fucking you're fucking crazy but I got so engulfed into making it better and better and better that the attention to detail like right now I'm probably like I hope one of the guns aren't dusty behind me and probably one of them is
Starting point is 01:50:47 but making money throwing parties then I started posting like shit that normal people wouldn't post people like yo Mike you just posted that slow-mo come shot is on your story. You're not supposed to put it on your Snapchat.
Starting point is 01:51:03 And I was like, oh. And then I was like, so that's why it has 10,000 views because when I downloaded the app, I guess it notified everyone in my contacts that I had a Snapchat and my phone's on fire. And this is back when it was super hot. At first I thought I was like some bullshit kid shit. Right.
Starting point is 01:51:19 You know, I'm still that old guy like, fuck TikTok because I hate it. Everything I put on there. Everything I have on there has millions of views but I fucking hate it and everything I put on it gets fucking deleted. Sure. So, but I know I have to constantly evolve and not be that old man wizard and be like shaking my fist because you have to learn to, you know, state and grow. So that has been a benefit of me making money because I've always been a little ahead of the
Starting point is 01:51:40 curve on what's hot. You know, listen, I don't fucking got no Bitcoin. I will never fucking buy no damn NFT. This ain't my thing. It's not my experience. I'm selling a real life experience, a tangible experience that you can't get anywhere. Go subscribe to any other fucking stripper on OnlyFans. She's not going to let you come to her house and party and create this whole, like,
Starting point is 01:51:59 itinerary summer camp fucking there's costume con there's wrestling there's comedy there's all these things you're getting for $33 a month for mybec.com and some people don't, a lot of people don't sign up because they don't think it's legit. They're like, so you're telling me for $33 a month and we haven't even
Starting point is 01:52:15 changed it even with inflation, it's been the same price, but we would give them access because I kept getting fucking deleted. I've had 17 YouTube's. I just got into like a month ago just a month ago into a YouTube gone ahead that's over 10 years old.
Starting point is 01:52:31 Wow. I just got into it. I had to hit one of my Ukrainian plugs. They're great, by the way. He hacked his way in. If I wanted to delete anyone's Instagram on the planet for the right price, I know the guy who can literally
Starting point is 01:52:47 fucking push a button and make it happen. And eventually, eventually the platform can go in and see whatever and they can bring you back. But it was scared of a fucking shit out. millions of followers and shit. But I kept getting deleted and deleted and deleted.
Starting point is 01:53:03 And I was like, fuck you hate and ass motherfuckers. So one day, I said, I'm going to charge them to watch my shit. So if you're going to report me, you're going to fucking pay. But I'm going to, the sales strategy was to give them everything to where economically does not make economics for me at all. Like if every member of MyBeeCu.com showed up at the same time, I'd be fucked. It's like a gym almost. Yeah. So the ones who come here, and a lot of them only come once a year, some will never come. Right.
Starting point is 01:53:35 Like, I'm talking, you name it, they're members. It's like a, it's like a little secret society, but as yes, not so secret. Yeah. And a lot of people, they're wearing, like, their Saucasel shirt, they'll see each other. And they'll be like, oh, and then just become homies. And it's like a community. It's like a, I just say all this weird, fucking sappy, like family shit. But it is. It's like, we're a bunch of degenerants that find a comment. ground of like hey just be yourself yeah yeah like the other day
Starting point is 01:54:03 there was some dude I thought it was the fucking Quasimoto costume yeah but no he was like oh shit that's real but he was fucking just slam dancing going crazy and I was like and the psycho in me like my heart like just like flutters for a second
Starting point is 01:54:19 and I'm like oh my god I'm I'm responsible for creating a moment that this dude's probably going to get his dick suck like our buddy Daniel who's deaf in the spectrum he got his first blow job he drives for Uber and shit He's not full-blown retard okay I don't know what the percentage is
Starting point is 01:54:35 But he's definitely got some shit going on But we're very honest and open with them We're like he's our little fucking fucking brother We take him over a wing Yeah We make sure no one Like we fuck with our people We'll be damn if anybody fucks with our people
Starting point is 01:54:49 Yeah We're allowed to do what we want with them We fuck with them You know give him hell But You're seeing a guy Who has like You know
Starting point is 01:54:57 Social dis like dysfunctions. You know? Hard time socializing and getting social They went to home school like a pussy too long so they don't have
Starting point is 01:55:06 the normal social interaction that have no skills and we're throwing him in the fire and then you got the dude it's like thinks he's too cool to have fun we're like no you're a bitch
Starting point is 01:55:16 get to fuck up and dress like this pumpkin and let's have fun we're forcing you to have like that childlike spirit of like it's the it's the fucking no
Starting point is 01:55:25 we're gonna go play manhunt yeah we're gonna go fucking paintballing and all that shit. So once you start posting on Snapchat, all of a sudden people start coming in and they're like, oh, this is crazy.
Starting point is 01:55:35 I remember. And then they're subscribing and all that stuff. Yeah. So after having six Instagrams deleted, 17 YouTube's, I'm like, I'm over it. So I'm like, I'm going to charge them. They fucking changed my whole fucking life. You're talking like a dude who's living on fucking hot dogs,
Starting point is 01:55:52 okay? And I'm still like getting to do shit that you would think I paid. Like I'm fucking like, you know, doing the most, I'm hanging out with fucking, you know, my buddy, Trace Cyrus and his sister Miley Cyrus. I'm in Vegas. I'm next thing, though, like, fucking death lepers walking in, like, all this crazy, weird shit.
Starting point is 01:56:09 And it's just my life. And it's normal to have, like, oh, James O'Kee's from Project Verdehaus is coming over. Let's clean the house. Oh, this is the director of CNN for 25 years. He's defected and came to the light. And now he's working with Project Verdez. And I'm hearing all these things. in like I'm getting inside information about stuff.
Starting point is 01:56:31 I'm like, okay, well, you have a video of a Twitter executive talking shit about his Asperk syndrome of Elon. So I want to make sure Elon gets that. So I'm hitting him on my boy Walter, the helicopter pilot did this shit with Steveo, who works for SpaceX and NASA and has a government contract with him that flies his giant ass fucking Coast Guard looking helicopter. And he works the box, which is like the perimeter of the launch area. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:56 So he has to go up every time a rocket or anything goes up and has to make sure there's no vessels, no humans, no fucking large fucking sperm whales, whatever. No fucking Cuban refugees floating up. Yeah. He's the one who makes it. And on the comms, you'll hear, okay, mission control, you're clear for takeoff. And then they start to count. They wait for him.
Starting point is 01:57:15 And I'm fucking just degenerate flying around in my fucking, so aviation and obesity does not go together. No. It's like the opposite. You're like, gravity is working harder on you. And my boy, Walter, he's so fucking badass. Like, I'm hooked in, clipped in. We're flying around and all this shit. And I'm bringing my buddy Joey Fetone with me from Insing.
Starting point is 01:57:35 We're filming. Like, there's a fucking rocket. You want to talk about the ultimate, like, panty dropper? Like, take a chick to go see a fucking SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket go up from a goddamn helicopter. Literally, you're literally with both doors open. This isn't like one of these bullshit Manhattan helicopter tours. This is Apache, baby. You're flying around.
Starting point is 01:57:55 You guys fucking helicopter. No doors on it. You're in it and you're fucking like, it's a cool experience. I've been able to do all these cool things, meeting these cool people, working hard, doing the most. Like, there's still shit to this day that I do for free all the time that I can make thousands of dollars up doing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:16 And ethically, I just kept at it, kept at it so long that when the shit was getting crazy hype back at Souscal 7, in the very beginning of YouTube, only thing I would post was like, oh, something funny and crazy and sexy. So it was kind of like what we have now. We're in an era now where,
Starting point is 01:58:36 you know, they call it cap and even though I hate fucking saying that word, but bragging and flossing and stunting, like that's just not that cool anymore. Now it actually creates animosity and resentment from your followers, so they don't want to see you fucking, you know, these YouTubers are like, yeah, here's a million dollars,
Starting point is 01:58:53 give it home, guy wake up buddy I was doing it I was picking up homeless people taking them in limos and fucking getting their dick suck uh buying them I've done I do a lot of stuff for veterans yeah can you talk to me about what you do with the veterans and with Jenny well coincidentally mark just days away is my annual Veterans Day party every year I invite any and every veteran or active service of all branches we haven't had anyone from uh space force yet but I'm waiting soon they did we got some hot chicks in there though but uh you're You're invited to come to my house.
Starting point is 01:59:25 Yeah. I will cook you dinner, free haircuts, tattoos, and free blow jobs. Wow. By the wonderful legendary Jenny Jiz. If there was a blow job Mount Rushmore, she'd be right dead smack metal. She is a beautiful woman who's you would refer to as maybe a milf. And her husband is the cum artist, Mike. And I remember, actually, she was with me and Bert Kreischer on her podcast.
Starting point is 01:59:53 and Jenny Jiz was there and we were talking about it the whole thing we were doing and we were inviting veterans to come over and come get their dick sucked so 100% for free people were like what is you doing?
Starting point is 02:00:05 He can't do that in the news like it's going everywhere like and a lot of things changed for me when Vice came into the picture there's a reporter named Mitchell and just I could tell at first he wanted to hate me because he's this super feminine
Starting point is 02:00:21 like New York hipster you know he's fucking he looks like he has full-blown fucking aides he looks like one of the extras in philadelphia coming around and shit yeah and he just came and i think like you know like media i try to like kind of fuck with you see like whatever and i'm just like pulling my dick out pissing like just not giving a fuck and he could tell i wasn't intimidated by his sexuality and yeah and he sees i got a fucking flock of lesbians over here and he's like he's like wow this is like a wild enforced of magical creatures and he was fixated
Starting point is 02:00:57 on it and it was one of the biggest like stories advice ever ran Wow. It was at one point I was getting fucking tagged on things on like Facebook I remember and be like cool but what about Mike Busey and the sausage castle? That's hilarious. And they were coming always over to film
Starting point is 02:01:13 and doing like stories and and you know there was talks of us doing a show and because I've been in a bunch of like developmental deals with networks and shit and like And like, now I have this, like, kind of chip on my shoulder to the game because I needed them forever. I wanted to propagate my stuff and put it out there. But now I, I realize that I don't.
Starting point is 02:01:37 I am the network. Right. They have the money. They fucked up. Yeah, yeah. I was a free agent. They could have held you down. I would have been like, I would have fucking give me the Illuminati Tattoo.
Starting point is 02:01:45 I'll do anything. I'll kill anyone. Who cares? Because I don't have, like, a love for money. I have a love for life and the experiences that money brings and the freedom. And doing the most. Yeah, I don't like worrying, stressing my fucking brains out. Right.
Starting point is 02:01:57 But now I find myself doing that more. So what's next then? So, like, you've built this huge thing. You have this whole operation. You've got all this money coming in. You've thrown these parties. Like, can you level up from here? Or is it going to be, like, have some kids and chill?
Starting point is 02:02:09 I definitely ask myself this thousands of times. And just when I think I've outdone myself, it's like, no, it just keeps going. Yeah. Keeps going. Sorry, there's, like, this censor thing. in my bathroom when you walk in. It's like this haunted thing from like the Disney head. You're in my business.
Starting point is 02:02:29 Bathroom with no door, by the way, which I love. Well, there's a science of that. Yeah. You're going to have, try to put like 300 people in your house and they all got to take a piss. You don't want to take shits. Don't come to shit at my house. Go shit in the woods.
Starting point is 02:02:40 And if you got a piss and you're, dude, pull your dig out and pee on the ground. Yeah. You know? And we don't want no one doing any fucking crazy drugs in there or doing any unauthorized finger banging. So no door. And then they, there's a curtain and some chains
Starting point is 02:02:54 a little bit of privacy and it kind of like keeps people in and out and then you don't have you know we've had to kick in a couple doors some drunk dudes like passed out in the shower
Starting point is 02:03:03 I'm like is someone taking a shower like this guy's getting there drown in my bathtub he's just drunk and fucking you know whatever I've seen it all like everything
Starting point is 02:03:11 you name it unfortunately I'm the guy who's experienced it and all these amazing cool things they got to do with my life just because
Starting point is 02:03:20 I passionately insanely sought after working I outwork I out hustle everybody you know so what's the next step though you got this great girl it's just I've been I'm in the same world I got I got caught up in the
Starting point is 02:03:32 the COVID fucking cuddles I came back from Columbia I flew like 20 30 of my friends to Columbia on a private jet I'm not private jet a commercial airline jet whatever next season
Starting point is 02:03:45 and I was trying to it was like a little bit of a Drake but a Drake budget like when it flies all those homies and shit but you know got a bunch of prostitutes and shit and big old mansion flew in some of my members like a sweepstake. Oh yeah, gonna come here and fuck a little prostitute you want and get drunk and I'm going to feed you and we're going to go hang out with Don Roberto Pablo Lisco Bar's brother and we're hanging
Starting point is 02:04:04 on his house and shit and he's telling his stories and yeah we some I got stories about that and it's crazy but um soon as I get back COVID boom whole fucking planet shuts down then now I'm having to like okay I'm having this wolf and wall street moment like we're not fucking leaving Disney shutting down universal I'm not letting anyone go because I had at one point I had like 15 employees full time right you know and coming from a fucking a dumb motherfucker sleeping in walking closet
Starting point is 02:04:35 you know making oh maybe I should answer that one question you asked 30 minutes ago fucking the money I started charging and I remember being at a home depot and needed trash bags but I got scared I didn't have enough money so I put it back and then on the way out I was checking my bank account and I'd seen a wire go for like $10,000 I got scared.
Starting point is 02:04:59 I was like, oh shit. I got excited and scared because I was like, oh, they didn't fuck up and wired. So the bank gave me $10,000. I got some fucking, some fucking monopoly free parking shit over here. But I was scared to touch it because I had never seen $10,000 in person at the time. And definitely not in my fucking bank account. And when was that? That was not that long ago.
Starting point is 02:05:20 Six years ago. Wow. Six years exactly to this month. Because the last Sossackle Castle, Soss Cal's 7, we transitioned from here. So that whole part, when people look me up online or see whatever, still today's day, it's like, I heard his house burned down. The fucking county burnt down my house. Yeah, so insane.
Starting point is 02:05:39 So for years, they were flying helicopters over my house. And they were fining me for allegedly running a nightclub from my private residence. Right. And the house was coincidentally. built on two parcels. I don't even legally own this. One of my Jewish homies, we called him Israel,
Starting point is 02:06:00 straight up from the motherland. He is super shalom. Like, you can't even, he's like, Boorat, you can't understand anything he's saying. He's so unorthy. His whole behavior, like, whoa, like, yo, you can't be saying that dog. You're in America. He was like, here, hustling people
Starting point is 02:06:16 selling old ladies, like fake air condition spray. Like, oh, you're going to die of old give me $5,000 I clean it and he came into the picture where he helped me buy the home from this original crazy redneck dude named
Starting point is 02:06:33 Mike Brown who had a contracting company and they was making much of money and I went to go film a TV show, a pilot for MTV and they needed a place to shoot guns and I was literally one mile from UCF. I lived around in Alephaya
Starting point is 02:06:49 so I was at 6 and I was having like girls one while tour bus like you name it every crazy seather fucking every rock band fucking papa roach who all these people were coming over performing at my house like i was throwing the parties that you see in the fucking movies all the time and it's before social media as that started going on it was just tons and tons of like every six months like oh this is going on this county is like fuck you as my manager miguel says you were the wrong kind of white. And this is like
Starting point is 02:07:24 just dendar, you're here to banjo as soon as you come in the same cloud. Right. Obviously it's developed over the years and it's getting bigger
Starting point is 02:07:30 and crazier, but I'm living on this 30 acre land and the homeland swamp of America on alligator lake and this crazy looking, fucking haunted-looking castle. And you know how hard it was
Starting point is 02:07:44 to get pussy when you met someone online and they showed up your house in a giant fucking skull. There's a haunted strip club. They were literally like, no, thank you. And they would leave. I'm like, no, no, no, I know, it looks crazy.
Starting point is 02:07:55 I'd have to be, like, having passed the phone around to other girls. I was like, yo, tell her she's not going to get raped and killed. Please. Please vouch for me, bro. And they were coming. They're like, what the fuck is? It's all these people. I was bringing, you know, anyone and everyone.
Starting point is 02:08:08 Like, you name it. They were coming out there. And the county hated you. The county was like, who the fuck is he's gay in our town? Yeah. And the home was built on two parcels. and when the economy, I think it was 2008, the homing crisis,
Starting point is 02:08:25 my Israeli friend, he scooped in and got it on a tax deed auction, which I didn't know nothing about. Now I'm like a fucking damn near a certified, fucking real estate agent on shit. So I'm basically renting a house, and I'm in rental copergatory. I'm allowed to do whatever the fuck I want to this place,
Starting point is 02:08:40 anything, as long as I pay the bills. And then my original landlords weren't paying the bank. So then next I know, I'm hearing foreclosure. I'm doing my life. stage show. I had a regency at Club of Ville, the largest nightclub in America in Panama City Beach. I'm hosting spring break there. My whole crazy wild stage show
Starting point is 02:08:59 every day the month of March. That is my first stimulant of money. Right. See? There you go. Live show. I'm like, yo, here's 30 grand, you dumb motherfucker. I'm like, I'm rich. We'll live six years off this. And I'm taking everything
Starting point is 02:09:15 this has in last 20 plus years and I'm reinvesting, reinvesting, reinvesting, reinvesting, oh, we got to get an Apple computer so we can edit on iMovie 06 and all this other shit. I had a thing called Pinnacle. It was like hardware and stuff before all this like Adobe and Final Cut and all this stuff. I was learning to edit on stuff and putting it out on the internet. People were like laughing. I'm like, oh, fucking YouTube.
Starting point is 02:09:36 What's that? That's like internet TV. Yeah. And I was just lucky to get out there in those spaces very, in the very, very beginning of it. But the county wants you out, though. county wants me out. They're finding me thousands of dollars a day for three things.
Starting point is 02:09:54 Allegedly running a nightclub from my private residence. The home being on two parcels, okay? And then it's allegedly are the EPA is saying the home was built on swamp land. And the original builder
Starting point is 02:10:09 worked at the county. So I think that like when they they kind of push some papers through, next thing, you know, here I am causing a scene. And lo and behold, just like every classic 80s movie, the big bad corporate America guy is coming in the ruin, the summer camp, and Ernest has got to save the camp,
Starting point is 02:10:27 and we've got to have a car wash, and we've got to animal house, all these legendary, weird science, the, you know, fearless, beaulers day off, all these crazy movies. We got to fucking save the Sosses Castle because my next door neighbor was the county commissioner,
Starting point is 02:10:44 and he was, his parcels, touch stars. So he hates you. He wants you out. He had way more of a reason to try to get me out there. And then this is early in social media. So what I would do is when this stuff was happening, at first, I was only posting fun, cool, crazy shit.
Starting point is 02:11:01 Well, when I got super real of my audience, they went from liking me to loving me. They're like, yo, this motherfucker is a goddamn G. He don't give a fuck. And he's fighting the man. I'm fighting the commissioner. We're at a summer camp. We're fighting the fucking man. We're out there.
Starting point is 02:11:15 We just want to party and they're trying to shut it down. They're trying to stop the party, and we're trying to keep it going. Meanwhile, all this, we're still pushing through. I'm doing TV shows in France. I did some crazy-ass, like, show in the Netherlands. It was on, like, right before American Idol, like, season finale. Yeah. Yeah, and shit.
Starting point is 02:11:34 Like, I'm getting, like, worldwide shit. A billionaire guys are hitting me up. Hey, I want to give you show. That guy, David Alki, like, owns. Yeah, yeah. Part of, like, Coca-Cola. He threw me some money and made a show that I never even fucking seen. that aired in Europe and shit.
Starting point is 02:11:49 All these different stuff going on. So the whole world's watching me fight the man. And I'm not understanding what's happening. I'm not putting two and two together until I'm getting more information. I'm seeing, okay, all these fucking helicopters, they're swatting me. They're kicking my door in. On one, it was actually, coincidentally, a drunk people in costumes, Halloween event. It was day three fucking all of a sudden, cars flying down my drone.
Starting point is 02:12:17 driveway and you see I'm like oh here we go my heart is like just beating on my chest like oh I'm done I'm going to pound you in the ass prison what the fuck and they think I'm like goddamn Pablo Escobar right they think I'm fucking throwing these parties
Starting point is 02:12:33 and selling drugs and everything you're like I don't need to smoke weed I don't do anything they're like oh no find more so they're seeing this whole fucking thing unfold and they're angry they're already like balls deep on budget like aviation fluid fuel is not cheap and they're flying these helicopters
Starting point is 02:12:51 in my house because you couldn't get to it unless aerial this is before drones were popping they're just trying to find anything they're taking I'm going in the court and my lawyer Scott Herman I met he fucking literally this is a game to him he's like fuck it let's let's take him to the house let's fight him I was fighting like they were showing up every party giving me fines there's like for 250 bucks for a noise violation and I'm like I'm taking the court you're like are you sure it's only 200
Starting point is 02:13:15 I'm like nope take it I was like bringing in. Take this shit to trial. Get your 12 white folks. Take the shit at the trial. And I was like, let's go. Let's go. And we were fighting it.
Starting point is 02:13:24 And then they were playing tit for tat. Well, that one Halloween, fucking a task force showed up. And all ski masks. And there's just drunk people like just trying to wake up and stuff. And they went into a room that I had, it was a garage that I had put like bunk beds in and a pool table. It was like a little like private little Airbnb type of thing. And I didn't know. this till later that night
Starting point is 02:13:47 the guy all came in they started searching my house and then like they were only in there for like five minutes and then they walked out and I remember this guy looking at me he's like Mac did you think you could do this forever we've got families here and I remember just looking at his eyes and you're like
Starting point is 02:14:04 and you could see the chant the talk and I'm doing all this stuff for veterans and some of these cops are veterans and they're like sending me like these cryptic messages like yo bro they're after you I had one guy show up and his wife drove his car and he sat in the back of it. It was like something weird.
Starting point is 02:14:23 And he was telling me all this shit the county commissioner is doing, the code enforcement officer. They were using, like, we're going to get them out of here by running these code enforcement fines so we can foreclose on the property. You keep fighting everything. Yeah, I'm fighting it. So as I'm fighting it, I'm like, oh yeah, bitch, I'm going to make you famous. Then I get all this shit going on. Well, I didn't know that that day they had put a suitcase into this armor because we're, when we went to get out for the third day,
Starting point is 02:14:48 I'm like, I'm like scared shit. I was like, what do we do? Do we still have to party tonight? It's day three. Do we do it? I was like, oh, we just got my dad to do it. I just reluctantly say, yeah, let's do it. Well, they had ran a fucking whole like roadblock stop on my end of my driveway.
Starting point is 02:15:01 It was like a mile long driveway. So you had to come in that way and there's only one way in and one way out. Yeah. So they did a perimeter. Like they basically box up. Everyone coming in, everyone leaving, all getting pulled over. Fucking cars ripped apart. What I did not know is they put a fucking suitcase of drugs.
Starting point is 02:15:19 Like basically you're a drug dealer starter kid. The scale, the baggies, fucking, I didn't even, Molly had just started popping around then. Right. And EDM shit started blowing up. So it was that. It was like, I had to call my camera guy Pat in. I'm like, because I know he was like, you know, he fucking loved drugs.
Starting point is 02:15:36 He was like, yo, bro. Nice. Free drugs. He's like freaking out. And he's, you can see him shaking. He's like, bro, he's just thousands of thousands of dollars with the shit. I had them count every little fucking stamp of acid and stuff.
Starting point is 02:15:49 And no one touched it. It was like $24,000 with the drug. Because you know it's a setup. Yeah. No, not at the time I did. Not at the time. So me being broke as fuck, I'm like, all right, let me take this and put them in some big ass, like, trash bags, tie them up and take it way out in the woods and just leave it.
Starting point is 02:16:05 Get it the fuck out of my house. Because you thought it was like someone left it there. Some drug dealer came and left it. Yes. At first. That's exactly what I thought. I was like, yeah, damn. I was like, huh?
Starting point is 02:16:14 But then I'm like, wait a minute. You just got all these fucking guys with these ski mask on come in. They came in. They came in. They left. And then then you're seeing all this stuff. They're basically trying to like set me up because they were doing everything they could. I had people coming over. I had like, hey, man, I need some drugs.
Starting point is 02:16:31 You can buy some drugs. I didn't know that the fucking FBI had moved in this guy who looks exactly like Danny Traia. We called him fucking machete. And he had a whole backstory. story. He was going to the MMI motorcycle school. He was a veteran allegedly. Right. And Mexican dude, like... A Spanish-looking guy, yeah. Older, fucking real solid-ass mustache. I mean, he looked like, he looked like machete. And the first day he shows up, he's like, hey, man, you know where I'm getting any automatic weapons?
Starting point is 02:17:02 He moves into the house? Yeah, because I was broke as fuck. I had like Craigslist ads. Like, you want to be my fucking roommate? Seven dollars a month, motherfucker? So an informant moved into your house. The FBI paid me rent money to live in my house. And only was there, didn't even ask for their last month or their security deposit bag. So the FBI actually cut me a check. As Halloween, that's October, nothing goes on in December or November. My birthday party had this big crazy, the sexy Santa Christmas party. And it happened to be the same day that Mayans predicted the end of the world.
Starting point is 02:17:36 So we do this whole like end of the world party. Fucking, we're all going to die. and it's like my birthday party. I'm dressed as fucking Santa Claus. Yeah. Okay. Next thing you know, boom,
Starting point is 02:17:50 fucking here we go. Fucking cops, fucking flooding in. And I had, it was probably like 50 plus cops. Like if you would have robbed a bank in Osirley County, you would have been fucking,
Starting point is 02:18:01 you could have made it to anywhere and could have walked right out if you wanted to. I was like, what the fuck? They cut off. We started like playing games. We're like, okay,
Starting point is 02:18:10 we've got to be smarter. And I wasn't, selling drugs. It wasn't even doing drugs. And there were people like doing Molly every now and then. Like what am I do? Fucking hey, take a fucking drug test before you pull in my house. People are bringing their own stuff. People smoking weed and doing shit, whatever.
Starting point is 02:18:24 But like I never was, I never let people openly like you never come to a party. I know it kind of ruins the rock star moment of it. It was never like a fucking plate of cocaine. Right. Because you know you're pushing the limit and you're like, I can't do anything blatantly illegal because then
Starting point is 02:18:40 they're going to shut us down. I'm in this gray area that I'm basically, I tried to explain like this. If I was a cake maker and that's what I did for a living but if I had a wedding, you're expecting my cake's going to be fucking amazing. So I was throwing parties and that's what I did for a living. So when I threw a party, yeah,
Starting point is 02:18:56 security, fucking VIPs. I was renting out shit. Then comes. That's Halloween. I'm scared. I don't have nothing from November. December comes. End of the world party. Boom. I'm getting arrested. Dress of Santa Claus. It is fucking number one trending thing. And what is the charge here?
Starting point is 02:19:12 selling liquor about a liquor license A misdemeanor When I heard it was a misdemeanor I was like fuck you I said laughing I'm drunk as fuck I got Yeager all in my teeth I'm dressed as fucking Santa Claus
Starting point is 02:19:24 I'm yelling y'all cock-blocking motherfuckers They let me take my bond money And when I When I went into this Their station I looked down this hallway And I was like
Starting point is 02:19:36 Oh my fucking God Like a fucking ton of bricks It hit me And I just looked at this chick that was wearing this black and white gray like checkered flannel shirt this girl was trying to fucking get me to like do coke with her let me find coke she was pulling her fucking titty's out she was trying to fuck well come to find out there's i'm immediately knowing that there's undercovers that came to that party and she was one of the undercovers yeah and i didn't know this was happening
Starting point is 02:20:06 and then and i and i go i started laughing and they saw that i saw her and then they showed they shooed me away. They took me in a room, put me in this big conference room. These motherfuckers look like Ninja Turtle Foot Clan. We're all fucking their ski masks and shit. I looked down on their arms and I see the Mike Bucie wristband. They were all there. All there. And I'm like thinking
Starting point is 02:20:25 they just showed up. They were all like undercover task force agents doing like it was, I want to still to this day I don't know all the facts. So I don't want to say something that's not true but I think they were doing like a multi-county like exercise. It literally felt like they were
Starting point is 02:20:41 just exercising how this is how we do this and do that. Crazy. And they thought it would be easy probably. Like they were like that's how you know they didn't have anything on you because they got you on selling alcohol illegally. What was happening is is that some of these people like saw like what they were doing was fucked up. They were basically trying to
Starting point is 02:20:58 run me out of town. Right. And they didn't like my way of life and like I always got goddamn three six mafia get them out of here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know my fucking damn the county commission was my fucking next neighbor. So and then this whole like swamp land shit they were like wanting I was being told information from the county other county police that were like on my side like yo they're trying to build his
Starting point is 02:21:24 park there. Then this guy like he's selling uh he's buying a waste from Puerto Rico from a hurricane this ash and coal stuff he's he's buying it and it's like he's getting like kickbacks on it and stuff he gets arrested for impersonating a cop It was all renewed So the commissioner Tantis took this guy's pulled his card This happened a couple years ago So no one even knows how corrupt this guy is
Starting point is 02:21:49 So your neighbor the commissioner is like Buying up illegal waste Dumping it illegally Yeah and impersonating an officer And finally the county is like Oh man Maybe MacBeezy wasn't so bad And by that time I'm already like
Starting point is 02:22:01 Yo I'm fucking rich Suck a dick I'm like fat girl they went skinny I'm like bitch You ain't got shit I got a little chip on my shoulder And now they know that I'm scarier because I can protect
Starting point is 02:22:11 myself even more. I can afford to fight on him too. Yeah. So I'm going through this whole like transition but the plot fucking thickens. Okay? I'm thinking my life is over. I'm going to go have to get a normal job and go
Starting point is 02:22:27 suck the day's dick and do my thing. Because you think they're eventually just going to shut you down and you can't fight it forever. So I'm like I'm done. So I go to my buddy's bachelor party. literally I literally walked home from fucking jail at like
Starting point is 02:22:43 nine in the morning because all my friends were past the fuck out I'm freezing and it doesn't get cold very often in Florida but this particular day is fucking cold of shit and my fat ass was walking down 192 and a Santa Claus outfit still just like oh my God and the money I took in to bond myself out
Starting point is 02:23:00 they give you a fucking check and I don't have a phone on me so what am I going to do I have no cash now I have a fucking check from Australia County jail and I'm just sitting there and I'm just I get back I go to Miami I'm sitting with my homie like court side at a Miami heat game and the next thing you know my fucking phone like the lights on fire tweet tweet like alerts channel six channel nine then I start having like oh god
Starting point is 02:23:29 I'm fucked like this is done this is like 24 hours after after arrest yeah they found some more shit they're trying to get me on a fine I didn't know I didn't know what's happening it just happens I just look like the fucking most retarded looking motherfucker who just happened to get arrested looking like Santa Claus and it just happened to be days before Christmas and I guess it was a really slow news week because I was like I have the video and a screenshot
Starting point is 02:23:50 it was like North Korea and it was like I was the number one trending thing and oh George WB Bush and North Korea was trending at the time and yeah and then it kind of like made me the solidification of like you know you are the party legend yeah yeah you
Starting point is 02:24:08 even though it was like bullshit. And then as soon as that happened, I got to clap back. Because when I was in that room, that conference room, I looked down. And I said, listen, motherfucker, I took a picture with you. I took a picture with you. I was like, and your bitch over here? She was pulling her tities out.
Starting point is 02:24:27 I was like, fuck all of you. I was like, y'all fucking purposely trying to entrap me. Y'all, y'all waste some tax dollars on little me. And all you could get because I was selling $5 fucking beers. Yeah, you have an informant in my house? Yeah, multiple. I didn't know. There was like, there was like 12.
Starting point is 02:24:43 There's the dude that's living there. Machetes like actually in the cut. And I didn't, and in the gun local gun store, these fucking assholes didn't, they failed to tell me the FBI called them one day until like a year later. Like, yeah, they were asking me about all your weapons. Are they legit? And everything's on the books. Like, everything's legit. Everything's legit.
Starting point is 02:24:59 Like they were coming to my house all the time running all the serial numbers. I'm like, yo, my shit's all legal. We're safe. We're not doing anything. They fucking, once I got, I was in. handcuffs are four fucking hours in my own driveway. They kicked my door in. They helicopter, sniper, all this shit.
Starting point is 02:25:14 I'm like, yo, like, people who just, they wanted me so bad. And it was getting scary to where I was like, I was tired of fighting. It was 10 years of it. Right. So you're thinking about just giving up. Yeah. Let me find another job. Meanwhile, I'm on tour.
Starting point is 02:25:27 We almost die in a fucking bus accident in Kentucky, by the way. I'm not a big fan of Kentucky. Bus slips over. My buddy goes out the window. He's all fucked up in the face. I'm lucky to be alive. I'm homeless sleeping at a fucking O'Reilly's auto parts store with my pug, Jeddah. You still know money.
Starting point is 02:25:44 And I'm on the sidewalk. And I'm like still thinking that I'm supposed to show my followers the funny, the sexy is crazy. And one day that all changed. And I say, hey, man, I'm not fake. I can't be telling you everything's gravy and how awesome my life is. Like, I'm fucked. I'm done. I'm like, I can't take this no more.
Starting point is 02:26:04 I would be like so emotionally distra. and they it was a very vulnerable weird feeling to like tell them what was really going on but it changed my life because I was just like yo man I'm fighting this and I can't I don't know I don't know what's going on I don't know how far this goes into it but when I started sharing that part of my life that's when the shit went up everything and then I was like you know what almost died in a bus accident y'all fucker hating on me the county's trying to get my shit down because they're trying to come at me legally and I'm fucking making them look like ass clowns.
Starting point is 02:26:39 Right. And now they got like, I was finding out about shit from emails, some news reporter. Like, yeah, we like to talk about the foreclosure. You're probably like, what? They were, the county commissioner was hand-to-hands with the Oscoe County Sheriff's Department
Starting point is 02:26:53 doing all this crazy ass shit. Like I literally, I tweeted at one point, they had these bulk cutters, these big red bolt cutters they used to raid my home one time because I started chaining things. So I'm like, fuck you. You're not invited you. You can't come.
Starting point is 02:27:05 Fuck, it's my property. And I tweeted out, they had it on a marker. I said, the property, Austin County Sheriff's Department. I was like, hey, hey, fuckers, when you want this, call me. They call me. And I say, hey, y'all fucked up. And they're like, what do you mean? They were still on some cocky, arrogant shit.
Starting point is 02:27:23 And by the way, I have no problem with cops. Most cops are fucking amazing. Right. And a lot of them were still amazing. It was the higher-ups. They were puppeteering things. Because there were cops probably coming to your parties. They were having a great time.
Starting point is 02:27:33 I had a cop. I had this on fucking camera. 2008 a cop comes tells us I thinking oh yeah he's gonna tell us to shut it down no he tells it turn the music back up he walks into my house grabs a bottle of liquor off
Starting point is 02:27:47 the counter hits it gun I'm thinking like what am I in super bad the movie or something it wasn't out of time I don't think but I'm like what the fuck is this and it goes in the garage gets his dick sucked in my house and I'm like it's the coolest cop ever on duty on duty bro on duty on duty
Starting point is 02:28:02 and I have footage of all All this stuff, all this shit. So yeah, you fuck with cops. You're not anti-cop. But here's where it gets crazy. So they say, hey, we want to talk to you. I said, oh, you better? And you're like, oh, are you trying to threaten us?
Starting point is 02:28:14 I was like, no. Y'all just fucked up. You have me arrested on some bullshit. You spent all this time and effort and money. And now there's thousands of photos and videos of all you in my house and all you motherfuckers who are pretending to be so on your not, to try to build up cases and trap people. Now everyone's going to know what you did.
Starting point is 02:28:34 and they're going to go through and find out who you are and they're going to blast every one of your undercover performance all over social media and those guys are going to piss off a lot of scary, bad, crazy, real drug dealers and they're going to have to go be a fucking gardener somewhere. And the phone went silent. And the next day I get a phone call and he says, are you hungry?
Starting point is 02:28:57 And this guy, I called him Derek. I still don't know to this day if this is a real name. I said, yeah, I'm fucking hungry. He's like, you want anything? from public so I said, fuck yeah, give me a public sub and some gatorades. These motherfuckers showed up to my house in a gray minivan, and it was like six of them, and I knew there were coming, so I called my lawyer. He's like hiding in the fucking bathroom, and they come in and you're like, we want to talk to you about something. And my lawyer pops out.
Starting point is 02:29:22 Like, whoa, what the fuck is this? Like, hey, man, I've got to protect my shit. Y'all motherfuckers just pulled me up and cock blocked the shit on me on my own goddamn birthday, and I walked home in the fucking Santa suit. And now you can't even Google my fucking name about seeing my stupid ass And I was so mad Because I was that dumb fuck They was smiling like Hey I'm drunk You fuck
Starting point is 02:29:40 And then the lady was like Listen if you don't fucking just close I'm not I was like man my teeth are so fucking big I can't close them properly Okay I'm a mouth breathing Yeah you got a nice teeth though Thank you
Starting point is 02:29:48 Columbia Got them done some fucking New York Colombian guy in a New York Hotel room Did my teeth In the hotel room Yeah
Starting point is 02:29:58 Burt loves that story Burt Krecher We talked about that before Anyways So they're all showing up And we're basically, they're trying to do something with me And I was like, well, I ain't gonna be snitching on nobody Yeah
Starting point is 02:30:09 What do you want for me? They're like, we got something to offer You won't refuse. I'm like, well, all right, what's that? They say, we want you to throw parties. We want you to throw more parties. We want you to throw all the parties you fucking want. And we're gonna fucking give you immunity.
Starting point is 02:30:28 We're gonna let you do whatever the fuck you want. You can sell your alcohol. You can, fucking get as loud as you want. We're going to bump all the calls for noise. You don't have to worry about it at all. Okay. So I'm like, all right, I'm listening.
Starting point is 02:30:42 That sounds great. Yeah, okay. And I know that I'm not doing drugs. They know I don't do or sell. But they're seeing, like, I'd have like promoter, some sketchy, you know, college promoter bring over, you know, 500 people. And I'm making a couple thousand bucks. I'm like, cool, thanks.
Starting point is 02:30:57 And I can't, I don't know who everyone fucking is, you know? And they just want to come to my fucking. parties and undercoverly fucking mingle and talk to people, hey, where can I get this? Where can I get that? So I'm thinking okay, I'm immediately calling any of my friends to do drugs, like, yo, bro,
Starting point is 02:31:16 wait till you hear this. And they didn't want me to tell anyone. I was fucking telling everyone. I'm like, they're here. And so they were like, it was kind of cute and I would fuck with him hard and there's this one Spanish dude, he got mad and I think that was his girlfriend that was showing his titties. He started
Starting point is 02:31:33 like saying shit and he started getting he's like we're not fucking really gonna do this are y'all fucking entertaining this idea you crazy i was like whoa hey my man and i'm like all right misdemeanor they already dropped the charges oh really they actually sent my bond money back all this stuff so just cock-bock the night of me just made me a certified street credit party legend yeah um good morning america everyone i have people calling me like oh i seen you on tv in canada and those of shit. They say we want to have these parties and we want you to let us have these agents here. And can you like do something where we create like when they come up to the gate?
Starting point is 02:32:14 Like because we would have like a VIP line. It was like a big tour bus that my buddy Jacob Moser gave me. And we had like these lines like VIP, the ladies section. So there was like a queue. You had to come and you get metal detected and stuff. Well, they couldn't get their guns in the house. So they had their like woman who's like this photographer Pretend that she's like my friend
Starting point is 02:32:34 She hugs me and she's like here I got you a gift And it would be like this god damn It comes back to the public's getting It was like this nylon public's bag Like when it was recyclable looking things And all their glocks are in there I'm carrying their fucking guns The lead guy who I don't even know
Starting point is 02:32:48 What the fuck agency he was with I don't at all He would sit in my room upstairs Which was technically the office Because I'd slept in a walking closet but I just used that room for the office because I was, you know, about my business. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:01 And I had my TV monitors in there and he just watched the whole party. And these motherfuckers, I look more like a cop than these people. You would have thought they were, they were like crisis actors. Like, it was crazy. I was like, I was waiting for Alex Jones to pop up
Starting point is 02:33:14 and shit. But you took them up on the deal. You were like, yeah. So I was like, so, and then they were like, we'll even sweeten it. How much you pay your security guys? Like, oh, 100 bucks a night? They're like, don't even worry about it.
Starting point is 02:33:26 We're going to, we're going to, to use our own guys and you don't have to hire security anymore. So all my homies are pissed. And they're like, what do you mean we're going to use somebody else? Like, yo, bro, what do you want me to do? My hands are fucking tied here. And they were still coming out because it was like fun to my friends. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:41 Because if you knew what was going on, you're watching all this and you're like, oh my fucking God, these motherfuckers. But having like informants at the party or having like undercovers of the party is probably a bad look for the brand, right? Yes and no. One reason I went to one fucking overdose and dying on some geeked out. on fentanyl or some shit true and for two i don't fucking do drugs right i don't care and i don't want no one like i had dope boys coming in the house like pedaling shit and i wasn't getting no cut so he was
Starting point is 02:34:08 fucking he was cutting my throat on my own party and becoming the liability so you're like i don't do illegal shit anyway yeah so i'm why why not so the end of the day i rationalized it because they also said something very direct to me they said uh and if you don't do this you can we will fucking ruin you will, they said some very, very, like, yeah. Oh, yeah. It was like, it was some crazy shit. It was super crazy. I'm like, damn, are they gonna, like, there was times, one time we, we thought they were
Starting point is 02:34:34 trying to put, like, underage kids at our house. Like, oh, God. We were so anal with checking number one's ID and shit and signing in, like, you know. So I was like, damn, what angle are they coming at? And they said, you know, if you don't do this, you'll never, ever throw another party here and we'll just completely, they had me, they had me strangled. So how long do you let them? And the other rules
Starting point is 02:34:57 where I had speculations, they could never arrest me, they could never arrest anyone on property. And what was, what they were trying to do is they were just trying to make contacts. Because they were, they were like, they'd find, you know, Bob or Tim and he's selling him
Starting point is 02:35:12 a dime bag or some shit. And then he'd be like, yo, I need some harder shit. Where can I get, they were trying to find weight. So they were. And these are scumbag dudes who were like, coming to my house just to fucking pedal fucking drugs. You know, because I'm not going to lie. Yeah, people were fucking doing drugs, but it wasn't like in the
Starting point is 02:35:30 open. It'd be like, you know, oh, why is this guy fucking, why is this guy staring at the bonfire for four hours and dainting barefooted? Yeah. So it was whatever. I didn't care what people personally do. You know, I'm going to fuck what you do with your own body. I don't give a fuck. I'm not forcing my will and morality on you, which is
Starting point is 02:35:46 completely contrast to where I came from, you know? Yeah, but you're not going to protect someone if they want to do something illegal. Yeah, there were liability. So anyway, they made me, invincible to where I was throwing these parties. I threw a party like the week after I got arrested. And I remember that night
Starting point is 02:36:04 there was a party and the neighbors were like, fuck this, like all these cars were in their driveways and shit. And I'm like out there trying to like police say like, hey, I'm sorry about that. But I'm also feeling like a little untouchable. I'm like, what's up guys? I got the law on my side. Yeah, they're like, and then no one knows this.
Starting point is 02:36:20 And I'm just drunk as fuck. I'm like talking shit. I'm like, don't you. you understand? And earlier I was on the cover of the newspaper. It was still in his driveway. I'm like, I just got arrested last week. Because I was trying to like tell them, hey, keep calling the police all you want, but it's not going to fucking help you. And they were starting to get that vibe. And lo and behold, out of a fucking, like, it was like a 80s party scene movie, these degenerate motherfuckers, because these cops or a lot of them are just like dudes that didn't
Starting point is 02:36:52 get pussy in high school and wanted to be cool. So now they're getting to be cool. It's like money can't buy me love. I'm going to give this girl a thousand dollars so she can tell everyone she's my girlfriend and we're going to go to prom together. Now these fucking dudes are ruining people's lives are like hanging with me
Starting point is 02:37:09 and they're getting drunk as fuck. They're renting cabanas. The undercovers are going to go? Yes. Wasted. And I'm like, what the fuck? And I'm sitting here. One guy was nice. The other neighbor was like, fuck this.
Starting point is 02:37:21 He was so mad. You could tell he just wanted to do something. A commissioner? No, it was just like another neighbor. Gotcha. They were just, they were looking outside like, okay, we finally shut this down. What the fuck is going on? How is he still doing this?
Starting point is 02:37:34 And out of a fucking movie, those cops that I started to befriend a little bit, pulled up in a fucking van drunk as fuck, drunk as fuck. Hey, these pussy's showing you a hard time? And they looked at him and they go, turn on the little lights and like, have a good night. you later, pussies. And then it did this drove off flying.
Starting point is 02:37:58 I'm like, god damn, these drunk undercover motherfuckers are drinking and driving. And then they're fucking stunting on it. It just made me
Starting point is 02:38:04 feel like a goddamn boss. And then I got to throw parties for like a year, year and a half untouchable. I saved like a thousand dollars of nine insecurity. Wow. I was paying 10 guys,
Starting point is 02:38:14 100 bucks and a piece. And people that are getting hooked on fucking drugs out here. And technically I'm cleaning the motherfucking streets up. Yeah. You know? And no one I knew,
Starting point is 02:38:23 because trust me, knew people that were like, you know, they'd fucking slang a little shit here and there. You know, nothing crazy. We're like, it wasn't like fucking people doing heroin and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, but I felt like, yeah,
Starting point is 02:38:35 I don't get fuck because I just never, I've seen friends overdose. I've had friends die. I'm not a fan of it. Yeah, like, yeah, let's just drink, smoke a little weed sometimes. Responsible drug use, yes. Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, I don't know if anyone does,
Starting point is 02:38:45 like heroin on the weekends, like a real estate guy and he's like, cool or whatever, but who knows. Yeah. But at the end of day, it worked out great until eventually someone high up, high up was like no shut this the fuck down. Oh wow. They were getting like, they were getting
Starting point is 02:38:58 like reckless. They were having way too much fun. You could tell they were like, they were like crackheads. Like, hey, can you have no one Friday? I'm like, God damn, I just had one fucking last week. The undercovers are asking you like, yeah, let's keep going. Yeah. And then then they flipped it on me at the end. They basically just got all his intel
Starting point is 02:39:14 and everything and then they used the code of force meant to drive me out and they're racking these fines up and they were proving to you know, to themselves that yeah, he is throwing parties and did but we can't find him
Starting point is 02:39:29 every day. Technically it's only one day a month or something, you know. We could give him that fine. But then they threw the EPA thing, say, in the house and I'm like, motherfucker, I didn't even own this motherfucker. Yeah. Well, coincidentally, you didn't even own the house. No. And then my my fucking Israeli friend fucked me
Starting point is 02:39:45 because I'm in Panama City. I go do a tour. I'm getting $30,000 a day to host this fucking spring break shit. Yeah. You know, Club of Vila, MTV spring break days Polyshore this is my dream I'm like holy shit I get to host this This is like it's so awesome
Starting point is 02:39:59 I'm making money and stuff And I said hey you gotta go to this auction To buy the house So that I have to be in Panama's I can't be there And he's like okay How much do I go to? I was like I don't know I don't even know I said this
Starting point is 02:40:14 I said don't go past 100 grand He's okay I go to work next day He calls me Listen I got it Oh you're going gone to fucking owe me forever. He's, I say, how much was it?
Starting point is 02:40:26 100 grand. And what I didn't realize, I basically told him what to fucking charge me. And this motherfucker only got the house for $25,000, which is what I fucking made that month. And I thought this guy's my friend. And he was basically just coming
Starting point is 02:40:43 over, fucking hos, partying, wild-in-out, meeting all kinds of other celebrities. But he caught a lick off you. Yeah, he caught a lick off me. And I was like, you, motherfucker. And then I feel like him and the county were in cahoots because there were times like I did some like hitting camera shit some some James O'Kee Project Gretas stuff and I caught them freely talking like what they were doing. I got I got all the recordings and stuff. And I think some of them were looking for like my tapes because like I had a lot of stuff that like it was like yo like fuck y'all I got you like y'all want to come at me.
Starting point is 02:41:14 One time they fucking raided my house they said we were fucking donkeys or something and then like 20 cops show up. the cops are laughing. He's a lot of road guys like, yeah, Mike's a great dude. We love him. Like, a lot of the cops love me. Right. Because now all these undercovers are like your boys. Like, they're like hanging and like. To this day, to this day, that guy Derek, um, so some of my members of Mike Visa.com were on a cruise, like six months ago. And they had a saucy castle shirt on. And there's this dude who comes up to him. And he was like, oh, Sashkaz, I know that place. He goes, yeah, uh, I, uh, I let his, the entire operation over there. there and they're like, they're just looking, I'm like, yeah, okay, cool. He's like, yeah, for the FBI.
Starting point is 02:41:58 And then they're like, what? And I'm like, get me his fucking name. I need him. He basically no longer works for FBI. And it has like some tell-all book that he's writing about, I guess, his own stuff. I don't know how much of whatever it was going on with me is in there. I was fucking this chick named Christine, I won't say her last name. She worked at agency. Years later, I see her downtown. She's like, oh, I had to tell you something. We sent this guy to your house. And it was in my department she dealt with a different department she was like yeah the FBI was living we're paying you paying rent and all this other shit all for me to do nothing all uh this whole like 21 jump street or what was the movie we would have like kids are cops pretending of the yeah 21 jump street
Starting point is 02:42:38 they go back to high school or whatever yeah and then now I'm like untouchable for a year and a half I'm doing whatever fuck I want then I'm making more money I'm making crazy good money taking everything I'm making putting back in the band breaking the band back into the band back into the band then it peaks we're on TV. Like, I don't, like, there's old ladies that see my face, like, I'm saying you're that Sausius house. And they don't have social media. They're just seeing me on the fucking news or whatever. The news, like almost, they were, the news agencies
Starting point is 02:43:02 were praying for radio advertisement. Oh, tonight at 9 o'clock, we go to the sausage castle. Is your neighborhood safe? Find out. And they're like just blowing me the fuck up. And I'm just, and then I was getting deleting, delete. I was like, enough to enough. I'm going to charge the motherfuckers and watch my shit. I started showing all the real shit. I'm
Starting point is 02:43:17 crying. I'm fucking stressed the fuck out. I don't know what's going to happen. I'm like, yo, no I fucking like I'm just being so I if I had kept my mouth shut and not use social media they would have had me because I didn't have the money but I using the media to expose how fucked up they were and what was going on and that I took all this hardship and it turned into a blessing because now I'm sitting on that golden egg I'm on that like yo you want to talk about buying the rights to a life you know life movie and autobiography and this and that these motherfuckers these tiger king people they've flown here three times
Starting point is 02:43:54 I appeared on the second season of first episode like a whole one minute promo and I don't even know why they wanted me to interview because my podcast be doing pretty decently they like my interview processes even though I'm fucking completely derailing this entire thing now you have to change this is not even not going to be on your pod you has to be a whole new channel yeah exactly rambling with fat dudes for hours yes yes it's its own show but uh I took all this shit and turned it in to and made millions of dollars and didn't have to like kiss the kiss the ring of corporate America even though every now and then I got to go scratch its back and yeah yeah but I just don't
Starting point is 02:44:33 fit in the box of what they want but how did they actually burn your house down oh well after I was already here okay it's because trust me and it's what sucks is I definitely I didn't want to burn my house I wanted to blow it up because once I left I left on like okay y'all give me to X amount on time. I went on a huge search, found in a nice adelian family, if you catch my drift, who built this place. And that's why you got the bunkers and
Starting point is 02:44:58 shit. And my next door neighbor, the real real El Chapo was hiding gold. There's over a million dollars in concrete on this property. Well, there's some stories we can talk about another podcast under time. But I found this, made a seamless transition, literally through a big one last crazy rager.
Starting point is 02:45:16 They basically kind of bowed out. The cops came to say goodbye to me. I was like, yeah, is this going to be funny? Young motherfuckers, what are you going to do now? Where are you going to get your dick suck now? And I made a seamless transition. And it was emotional, man. I was fucking, like, crying almost every day.
Starting point is 02:45:28 I was like, I feel like it was on a period for years. Because I'm like, I went from living in the closet to now like making millions of dollars. And, you know, I got the MZ Hammer syndrome. Like, you get a job. You get a job. I got people fucking me over. I'm learning how to actually run a real deal business. And I don't want to.
Starting point is 02:45:45 I just want to have fun and be creative and make magic. in moments and just live life and enjoy it. And I still, like, if I hear helicopters, if I know what they're there for, I'm okay. Like, okay, I'm getting ready to get on that one. Or, oh, that's a, you know, if I hear helicopter, I start, like, I start shaky a little bit. Because they're flying over my house all the time,
Starting point is 02:46:05 sitting in my driveway, planting drugs. Like, they're doing all kinds of crazy shit. And the reason why that drug, that suitcase, one of my friend's security guys, his, his, and we're almost done. And his wife was a teacher who was, the wife of the sheriff and she was like yeah they they put a tracking device on it because we were going to go to edc and my boy rottie roddy rob wanted some weed and didn't tell no one about
Starting point is 02:46:27 this suitcase other my boy pat who went back to panama city i gave him a sheet of ass and he put in his laptop and drove off i kept all this shit in there and i took it way the fuck out there and marked like a tree not my girlfriend not my pugs no one knew it one day this fucking thing go out there like yo i'm like hey if i show you something you can't fucking tell nobody it was like stand by me you want to go see a dead body body. I got a bunch of drugs in this suitcase and you can have all the weed. He's like, and he's like laughing at me because I can't even tell you what increments of weed. I don't know what's what's valuable. I never smoked it. Yeah. He's like, I'm like, yo, what the fuck? It's not
Starting point is 02:47:02 here. It's gone. And then I found out there was like a tracking device on it. And they, when they saw you dumped it. And that same night it came here was the same night. They ran a perimeter and searched every car, pulled them over. We had to wait till like 6 a.m. I was telling people, you, oh, just day the night here. It was aggressive. And they were like trying to arrest me. just because I went down there, like, yo, what the fuck you y'all doing? Right. It was like some crazy deliverance. Like, fuck you, motherfucker, we want you gone.
Starting point is 02:47:25 And I just gave up the fight. And luckily, after the bus accident, after being deleted on social media, I said, fuck it, you're going to pay. And they paid and made millions of dollars. And I considered a happy end story. And now I'm in a different area in my life. Now, you know, and now we're going through some other shit, you know, it's still, we've got to save the farm.
Starting point is 02:47:46 Money's coming in, but going right back out. When you're making like, you know, I was at one point, you know, making $3 million plus a year, and I didn't even fucking, like, have a driver's license. And I didn't even have, didn't even have a fucking bank account. Like, it was like giving a homeless guy fucking a Lamborghini. What's he going to do with it? And I'd just been a good steward or everything, buying anything to make things fun and exciting. And it's like, you know, Brewster's millions.
Starting point is 02:48:09 Like, I spend all this. And I don't care. I'd still have no, like, emotional attachment to the money. I just like the experiences and having fun. and I'm really just pissing it all the way just to hope that I have the better story another person. I'm just lucky to still be alive.
Starting point is 02:48:24 The diabetes haven't got me. And I'm just still trucking away and doing things the way I want to do and I've invited the whole world to come with me for the journey. I let them watch vicariously through my social media and I invite them to be in the very home
Starting point is 02:48:40 with the very person who is showing that. So not only am I showing how awesome things are, I'm welcoming the whole, world as beacon like the batman is a giant sausage castle logo in this guy hey was your fucking life cool or awesome or shitty or rough do you hate your fucking job are you in afghanistan ready to fucking die for a war we shouldn't be in well fucking maybe you should come hang out with me at the sausage castle and party and and i'm not solving world hunger i'm not caring cancer but in that moment people do forget of all that and it is a testament that if you
Starting point is 02:49:15 keep fighting. If you're lucky enough in this simulation or whatever the fuck this reality may or may not be, if you keep grinding and you work hard and not be a lazy piece of shit and you really do love what you're doing eventually you do get something and the universe does. As I say,
Starting point is 02:49:31 a broken clock is even right twice a day and I'm just still fighting away and the hustle continues and you know I already went through the whole new phase, new money. This is not your real friend.
Starting point is 02:49:47 Why are they around? People stealing shit from you. People trying to, like, rob you blind, you know, dealing with a bunch of drunk idiots living in a fucking giant-ass, fucking adult Disney world. Yeah, it was, you know, fucking,
Starting point is 02:50:01 there's a lot of, it's a learning curve going from, like, nothing to everything. You know, like, I was buying guns in my sleep. I had, I had people trying to come over here fucking charging me the most ungodly amount of shit just to do something, because they see the gate and like, oh, wow, yeah,
Starting point is 02:50:17 we're going to fucking take this guy. We get rich. You know, and they don't understand. I'm just white trash piece of shit from fucking day one. And they forgot that I've been in the trailer park. I don't seem the shit. So you're not going to get that over on me. And I work, I don't just fucking have employees.
Starting point is 02:50:33 I'm out there with them. They're fucking barefooted mowing my own shit, fucking climbing trees, doing whatever my fat ass can possibly do. You moved all the couches in here, bro. This is amazing. Well, it's like what you're doing. This is what most people, consider a vacation, but you're working
Starting point is 02:50:47 and you're grinding and not stop, man. I'm focused. Probably going over your normal fucking time window. No, no, no. I can go five more hours, man. I appreciate you. I know you got a whole night ahead of you. Yeah, I have a fucking party to do that's been happening for three days. Day three of the biggest party in the world. Thanks for
Starting point is 02:51:02 in a way, the only thing cool I found out about doing podcast because I brought it back during COVID. I'm like, fuck it. I'm back, motherfucker. I'm going to do it. But it is therapeutic. Yeah. Sometimes I'm like, almost cycle analyzing myself. I'm like,
Starting point is 02:51:17 that's why I'm there, my good. I've literally had revelations to myself just sitting there like, oh man, Mike, God damn. Okay, yeah, you probably shouldn't have
Starting point is 02:51:26 had to deal with that, but whatever. And I'm not complaining of a fucking pussy. Like, I hated it in the moment, but I'm fucking so glad I live through it because now it builds my character
Starting point is 02:51:35 and I can survive anything. I don't give a fuck. You can put me a cardboard box. I'm the coolest, homeless person. I was getting pussy. I had way fucked up teeth. I look at photos of myself.
Starting point is 02:51:45 I'm like, God damn, people fuck me. Like, people thought I had money before. And I still, like, I don't even think I have money. Every time I'm making, it goes right back in. Yeah. Everything. I'm, like, technically I'm broke. You make $10,000 a week and you spend fucking $11,000 of it. You don't, you're not rich.
Starting point is 02:52:01 Yeah. So I'm still having to hustle and grind harder than ever before. I have to fight harder to keep it. So psychologically, I think I think it is cool to have your bills paid. maybe auto draft is too fancy for you, but make enough money to where you don't have to stress things, but every couple months you can buy a jet ski or something.
Starting point is 02:52:23 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you have too much, because I was, there was times where I was buying whatever. I didn't care, like, all right, whatever, just fucking get it, get it, get it. And no matter how much money you have, you still can't find good workers. Like this guy, you can tell his ethic,
Starting point is 02:52:37 this guy canceled his fucking flight because my fat head can't shut up. He's a beast. Yeah, that's the type of mentality will take you further in life. Yeah. you're willing to put in the fucking work and most of these young pussy motherfuckers
Starting point is 02:52:48 are scared, their soft ass bitch hands to get out there and go get it. And yeah, I'm going to get my dick sucked. I'm going to have a good time. I'm going to hang out with people that fucking you dream about, okay? I got better stories than everybody. I can tell you shit to blow your fucking mind.
Starting point is 02:53:04 And thank you for letting me, uh, and hopefully some of your listeners will enjoy this horrible fucking thing. Maybe you'll have me on flagrant or something. I'd love to have it. It'll be a fucking slumber party with lock ourselves up and fucking.
Starting point is 02:53:17 You're an evil genius, bro. Oh, thank you. You're a hustler, man. You inspire me. I'm like, I look at you. I'm like, fuck, you did so much. It's amazing. This is the brag.
Starting point is 02:53:24 Hopefully it gets a fire inside of you. And I know it's so fucking corny hallmark, cheesy to say, but if you really do love what you're doing, you figure out the way to fucking master that craft, you will eventually, and now more than ever with the way internet is, you can fucking take over the game fast. You know,
Starting point is 02:53:41 and I believe with, you have, I feel, you know, maybe just my gay friends. I say I'm a Sagittarius and have a good, like, energy. I meet people sometimes and I'm good reading on their character. I psychoanalyze, like, oh, man, okay, cool. Because I meet a lot of people to come and go, but people like you have a good heart. And you're telling me shit that I fucking would never believe,
Starting point is 02:54:02 but I'm like how hypocritical in me to be blown away the fact that you married the girl you lost your virginity to, and I'm over here telling you I've never done drugs. So within a day, I'm the hypocrite, And I need to always grow and evolve and think about like, how can I be a better version of myself? Yeah, yeah. We're just a fucking computer. You got to update the iOS every now and then.
Starting point is 02:54:23 And it's a beautiful thing to learn. And I like positively impacting people's lives. I don't know if you ever cried watching a guy that's autistic get his first dick sucked. I've never cried. It was an emotional moment. I'm watching something happen that won't happen in a traditional setting. Yeah. And it's all done in that face, a fun, safe, clean.
Starting point is 02:54:42 adult situation and everyone's just like man it's like those are the moments that money can't buy and I'm proud of that and people will talk shit and I'm I imagine myself looking from the distance I'm dead and looking at my Instagram thank God that piece of shit's dead but there's going to get a lot of motherfuckers are going to definitely be fucked up about it because I've created a place that is it's not even just a place it's not physical it's not tangible it's a way of life just have fun and enjoy it well let's go let's go do it man let's go enjoy it man Thanks. Thanks for letting me ramble.
Starting point is 02:55:16 Hey, cheers. Cheers. I appreciate you, brother. Cheers. Thank you so much. Thank you.

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