Camp Gagnon - The Gruesome True Story of Dyatlov Pass

Episode Date: October 16, 2025

What was the Dyatlov Pass Incident, and was it really a monster? Today, we take a closer look at the horrific stories behind one of the most famous Russian mysteries. We’ll talk about the beginning ...of the 200-Mile Hike, the final days of the hikers, the final photograph of the hikers, finding the hikers' bodies, strange conspiracies explaining the deaths, and other intriguing topics... Welcome to CAMP! 🏕️Shoutout to our sponsor: BlueChew and Morgan&Morgan👕🧢 GET YOUR CAMP DRIP HERE: http://camp-rd.com🎟️ 🎫 Comedy Tour Tickets Here: https://markgagnonlive.com🎩👽 Daily Dose Of History Here: https://www.dailytodayinhistory.comTimestamp:0:00 Plans For Dyatlov Pass3:37 The 200 Mile Hike Begins5:32 Hikers Final Days + Final Photograph of Hikers7:51 The Search For Dyatlov’s Expedition9:31 Finding The Hikers Bodies13:14 The Official Conclusion14:36 Strange Conspiracies Explaining The Death’s18:27 Reopening The Dyatlov Case21:26 The Most Likely Scenario#podcast #history #mystery #crime #monster #russia

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Starting point is 00:00:00 In 1959, nine hikers walked into a snow-covered mountain range and were never seen again. What investigators found was more than just a gruesome crime scene. It was one of the most notorious unsolved mysteries ever. People reported strange lights in the sky, radiation on clothing, maybe even a government cover-up. And this might all sound like science fiction, but this is a true story that actually happened deep in the Russian wilderness. And today, what happened to those nine high. hikers is still unsolved. And yet, many theories abound. Was it the Russian military that did an operation that went sideways? Was it an avalanche? Was it ravenous animals? Was it aliens or
Starting point is 00:00:42 wasn't even a Yeti? The truth about what happened out there is still a mystery. But the clear evidence of something unexplainable happening is what drives investigators crazy. Now, this is the Diatla Pass incident. So, sit back, relax, and welcome to camp. What's up people and welcome back to camp. My name is Mark Gagnon and thank you for joining me in my tent where every single week we explore the most interesting, fascinating, controversial stories from around the world from all times. Yes, this is a real life Ripley's Believer Not book that got turned into a show somehow. Yes, this is what we do here. All right. I'm sure you're like, oh, Mark, when are you going to talk about what's going on in the world? The wars, the stuff, the politics. That's not what we do here. All right. We are down for solving unsolved mysteries from, 50 years ago. That's what we do here. Okay. So welcome to the show. And thanks for coming to my tent. All right. You're always welcome to hang out with me in this cozy little, you know, this little cozy nook that I have. Deep, deep, deep in the woods, far, far away in Brooklyn, New York. And as always, I'm joined by my dear friend Christos, the Greek
Starting point is 00:01:53 freak himself, the legend from Athens. The hammer, is what they call him. The Thor's hammer, right? Sure. What's the Greek god? Hercules. Hercules is hands. Yes, the Hercules is hammer, dude. That's awesome. You're, you're you're you're you are Greek, right? Fully. All right, all right, all right, enough, Christos, okay? It's always yapping about your heritage. Today we're not talking about the Greeks or the Americans. We're talking about the Russians, technically the Soviets, but I'll probably use that interchangeably. Before we begin this, I also just want to point out I'm not Russian. So I'm going to mess up a lot of these words. I'm going to do my best, okay? I've read very many articles about this and I'm going to try with my
Starting point is 00:02:33 best Russian accent, all right? So my apologies on the outset. Where does our story begin? I'm glad you asked. January 1959 in the Ural Polytechnical Institute. There's this 23-year-old engineering student named Igor Dietlop, who was organizing what would become his most ambitious hiking expedition yet. Now, Diadlov was already known amongst his peers as a very experienced outdoorsman. He had led multiple treks through the Ural Mountains and had a reputation for planning and safety. and was very meticulous in everything that he did. For this expedition, he assembled a team of eight other hikers, all with significant experience,
Starting point is 00:03:11 but also with, you know, jobs you wouldn't expect an experience hiker to have. The group included two radio engineers. Again, I'm going to do my best with the names. Zenaida Komogorova, who had been on previous hikes with Diatlov, and Georgi Krivonchenko, who worked at a nuclear facility. There were then two mechanical engineering students, Rostim Slobodan, Nikola. Tibo Brie O'Neill. Two economics majors, Yuri Dorenchenko and Yuri Udin, a nuclear engineering student,
Starting point is 00:03:42 Alexander Kolevatov. And finally, the ninth member was Alexander Zolotarov, who was significantly older than the others. Zolotarov was an experienced mountaineer and a World War II veteran, who had actually been added to the group simply so that the group could meet the requirements to go on this university expedition. Now, this hike required a grade three certification. This is the highest level of difficulty in Soviet hiking classifications, meaning that they had to bring either an instructor or someone with, you know, just a ton of mountain experience. So, So Latarov was the guy. Now, their planned route would take them through some of the most remote terrain in the northern Urals. This expedition was designed to cover approximately 190 miles over 16 days, starting from
Starting point is 00:04:27 the town of Visay, ending in the village of Visei, after making a large loop through. through this remote Soviet wilderness. This route would take them past several significant peaks with their main goal being to reach the top of Ortonton Mountain. After a few days of waiting, their expedition was eventually approved by the Institute's Sports Club and the, you know, basically registered with the local authorities. All of this is required for a serious hiking expedition in the Soviet Union. Now, Diedlov submitted detailed plans and emergency procedures,
Starting point is 00:04:59 and the group was expected to send a telegram confirming their. return by February 12th. So the journey begins on January 23rd, 1959. The nine hikers took a train to the town of Sarov, then continued a bus to Vizhai, the last sort of inhabited settlement before just the wilderness. When they arrived in Vizhai, they hired a truck to take them as far as possible into the forest before they actually began their trek on foot. Now, the group was extremely well equipped for these harsh conditions, and they knew basically exactly what they were going to be facing, or so they thought. They carried a large tent designed for winter camping, warm clothing, food for the entire expedition, cameras to document the journey, and various pieces of standard hiking
Starting point is 00:05:47 equipment, including axes and knives, navigation tools, everything you need. And on January 27th, they began their trek on foot. The weather was already getting, you know, rough with snow and strong winds, but nothing that this, you know, experienced group of hikers hadn't ever seen before. They made good progress the first few days following their planned route and maintained their schedule exactly. But on January 28th, the first complication arose. Yuri Udin began experiencing severe knee and back pain that made it impossible for him to continue. After consulting with Diatlov and the rest of the group, they decided that Udn should turn back while he could still make it to safety.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Udn then returned to Vizhai on his own. leaving the remaining eight members to continue towards Alterton Mountain, and this decision ultimately saved his life. After Udun left, the group of eight continued to go deeper into the wilderness. Based on their diaries and the photographs that were found later, they seemed to be in good spirits, making good progress, despite obviously the harsh weather. Kalmogarova actually wrote, we are having an unusually good time. I can hardly believe we feel so good here. As they continued, the trail carried them through thick forest where the trees were giving them a little bit of shelter from the snow. But eventually the snowfall made the terrain rise that actually forced them to move their camp again.
Starting point is 00:07:10 The higher they climbed, the more the wind would tear across the slopes and the more exposed they became. On January 31st, Rustem Slebodan wrote, cold piercing wind. It's hard to imagine such a thing in a city. This goes to show that, again, no amount of training or classrooms could really prepare them for what these mountains were actually throwing at them. The very next day on February 1st, the group was approaching what was now known as Dietlop Pass, an area between two peaks that offered a potential route for their destination. The weather had just gotten worse. The winds were stronger. The snow is falling even more.
Starting point is 00:07:48 But still nothing beyond what, you know, these experienced hikers could handle or, you know, nothing out of the unaccompancy. expected, you could say. Based on the evidence that's found later, they made camp that evening on the slope of what's now called Dead Mountain, literally Kolat Seikal, and this is the language of the Mancy people. And it literally just translates to Dead Mountain. This location that they chose was a little unusual, right, because experienced hikers would typically avoid camping on this exposed slope specifically during a storm, and they would try to find shelter in the forest below. Now, we don't know why they chose that particular spot, but there are many theories as to what happened. Perhaps they got lost in the weather conditions.
Starting point is 00:08:31 And some people even say that they deliberately chose that spot for training purposes so they could actually like test their equipment or their skills and the conditions that they really never got to experience. Either way, the group chose this spot, not expecting it to be their final place setting up camp. The final photo the group took shows them digging out a hole for their tents on the side of the slope. and it's honestly pretty morbid when you realize that just a few hours later, all the people in this image would be gone. By February 12th, it was clear that the group failed to send their expected telegram, and there was initially no immediate alarm. Delayed returns were pretty common, specifically for these types of expeditions,
Starting point is 00:09:08 when the weather conditions were challenging and changing so quickly. But as the days passed, with no word, the hikers' families and the instructors at their school became concerned. So on February 20th, a search party was put together to go find the hikers. And after six days of traveling the same dangerous path that Diatlov and his team took, the search party found the abandoned tent on the slope of Death Mountain. But what they discovered on this mountain would puzzle investigators for decades. The tent had been cut open, but here's what's strange. It had been cut open from the inside with several long slashes made by a knife or something sharp. And the rips made it look like.
Starting point is 00:09:50 like the tent had been abandoned really quickly, but there was no signs of an internal struggle. And here's another weird part. Most of the group's belongings are still inside, including boots and warm coats and all their essential cold weather gear. They also found footprints in the snow that led away from the tent and actually went downhill towards a nearby tree line about a mile away. But not all of the tracks were made from shoes. It appeared that some of the hikers had left the tent barefoot or just in their socks. But the strangest detail about the footprints is that they didn't look like they were made in distress necessarily. As if someone was running away, they almost looked like they were calmly and evenly spaced out, almost as if the hikers were almost casually walking
Starting point is 00:10:36 down the slope. And as a search for the missing hikers continued, the searchers would have way more questions than they bargained for. The first two bodies, Yuri Doroshenko and Georgi Kravonoshenko were found on February 27th, about a mile from the tent. They were found lying under a cedar tree next to the remains of a small campfire. But the weird thing is that both of them were found barefoot, wearing only their underwear, and the cedar tree, they were under, showed signs that someone had climbed it. Branches were broken from the top, and there was even pieces of flesh from the two guys' hands stuck in the bark as if they kept climbing it over and over again.
Starting point is 00:11:15 But whether it was in a desperate attempt to flee something or maybe to gather firewood or try to see a vantage point, we don't know. Another thing that investigators found was the fact that Krivonashenko had a piece of his own hand in his mouth and the tip of his nose was missing. Not far from the spot, searchers began to find more members of the group. between the cedar and the tent site, they came across Igor Dietlov, Seneda Kamulgorov, and Rustem Slobodin. However, the way that Dietlov and the other's bodies were positioned suggested that they had died while trying to make it back to their shelter, possibly after realizing that whatever had driven them away from the tent was now no longer a threat. For two months, the search effort continued to try to find the final four hikers. And on May 5th, a Mancy native,
Starting point is 00:12:10 the native group that lived there named Kurikov was walking with his dog when he noticed some cut branches that were forming almost like a trail near the cedar trees. When he followed the trail, he ended up finding a pair of black cotton sweatpants that had the right leg cut off with a knife. After this discovery, they searched the area and ended up finding a massive den that the surviving hikers had basically dug out in an attempt to get away from the freezing winds. But what they found next to the den would change the intent. entire investigation. Because just a few feet away, investigators dug out a ravine, and they discovered the last four hikers. But these four victims looked completely different from the others.
Starting point is 00:12:51 They were wearing more appropriate clothing. They were better dressed, right? They were also wearing clothes that appeared to have been taken from the other two who had died first. And even more strange, their injuries were more severe. The autopsy results on the four bodies found in the ravine raised a lot of questions about what actually happened that night. Thibaut Brinolel had suffered a major skull fracture that would have been fatal. The injury was described as consistent with a severe blow to the head, but there are no external wounds or other signs of an attack. Dubonina and Zelotorov had suffered multiple broken ribs.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Dubonina had six broken ribs on one side, four on the other, while Zelotorov had five broken ribs on one side. Medical examiners claimed that it would have taken the force of like a truck to cause the damage that was done. But the strangest of all, Dubinina was missing her tongue, her eyes, and parts of her face. The medical examiner attributed this to natural decomposition or animal predation, considering her body had been partially submerged in the ravine for several months. However, Zelotorov was also missing his eyes, and both he and Dubinina had what appeared to be chemical burns on their exposed skin and clothing.
Starting point is 00:14:05 And get this, maybe one of the weirdest parts, some of their clothing even showed elevated levels of radiation, which of course only deepen the mystery and left anyone working on this case just completely confused as to what was going on. Now, the official Soviet investigation concluded that the hikers had cut their way out of the tent and fled into the harsh winter conditions
Starting point is 00:14:27 due to the report called a compelling natural force. That is what was actually put in the report. However, the exact nature of this force is not really specified in any way. And several things actually complicate the investigation. So, first of all, the scene had been disturbed by search teams before a proper forensic examination actually took place. And the remote location made it extremely difficult to conduct a thorough investigation, especially using, you know, 1950s forensic methods. The case was classified as having no indication of criminal activity and was ultimately closed in May of 1959. The official cause of death was listed as hypothermia for the first five victims and a combination
Starting point is 00:15:09 of a hypothermia and physical trauma for the final four. However, the lead prosecutor in the case, Lev Ivanov, later revealed that he had been ordered to close the case and that certain evidence had been completely classified. He also mentioned reports of strange lights in the sky, what was described as like fireballs on the night of the incident and these unusual readings on radiation detection equipment. After the case files were classified and sealed, it only added to this mystery and a lot of the speculation about what actually occurred on the mountain. Now for everybody's favorite part of everything, conspiracy theories.
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Starting point is 00:19:09 And thank you so much to the good folks over at Morgan and Morgan for sponsoring this program and making this show possible with this paid advertisement. Well, let's get back to the show. Over the decades since 1959, numerous theories have been made to try to explain what actually happened to the the Atloff group, and these range from everything from natural phenomena to human interference to the military. Some of the earliest theories was an avalanche, and some people still hold true to this. Some researchers suggest that a sudden snow slab could have struck the tent, injuring many of the hikers and basically forcing them to cut their way out. But when investigators reached the site, the evidence didn't exactly add up. The tent was on a small 15 degree slope, whereas avalanches usually
Starting point is 00:19:56 occur on slopes that are, you know, 30 degrees or more. Sure, it's possible, but it's just not typical. There were no signs of a slide path or debris, and most compelling of all, the footprints were actually still visible in the snow. Now, oddly enough, the UFO theories have some plausibility to, you know, obviously the UFO community. Witnesses from nearby areas reported seeing these large, bright orange lights moving across the sky on February 1st and second. Remember, even prosecutor, Ivanov admitted to seeing these lights in the sky. These theories suggest that the hikers encountered,
Starting point is 00:20:34 you know, some type of unknown craft, which could explain why they ran away and the strange injuries and the radiation and, you know, how strange and sort of violent the injuries are. Now, even if it's not UFOs, which... It's not, it's not UFOs. Military theories suggest that the group could have maybe accidentally encountered a secret Soviet.
Starting point is 00:20:55 military test, possibly involving nuclear weapons or new weapons people didn't know about or aircraft or who knows what, which could explain the elevated radiation levels on some of the clothes and the reports of strange lights. However, when you strip away the conspiracy theory lens and remember that several group members had worked at nuclear facilities, it could very much explain the radiation contamination on their clothes. But of course, just the very fact that some of the hikers were involved in nuclear sites led to speculation that the whole trek was actually a planned nuclear test set up by the government. Then there's also like the like Yeti theory or like the Sasquatch thing, which emerged like partially due to just like how remote into the wilderness it is. And then of course
Starting point is 00:21:42 there's like Russian folklore that they, you know, that many, you know, Russians and Soviets at the time would talk about. They would talk about the Menk, which is like this, you know, like Yeti like creature had lived up in the mountains. They also noted that the Mancy people had told these stories of dangerous supernatural creatures that basically inhabited these high places in the mountains and they looked like these giant man-like beings that would prey on human beings that wandered too far. Now proponents of this theory point to, you know, the massive force that would cause these injuries and, you know, arguing that only a creature of like enormous strength could actually cause these external wounds. Some of the footprints at the scenes were even described as being
Starting point is 00:22:19 strange. Some people describe it as being larger than human feet, but this is likely to the fact that they were wearing socks or, you know, minimal footwear that maybe created a distorted impression on the snow. Now, one of the final images taken from the trek actually shows what some people claims, like, is a Yeti. But a lot of people that, you know, they also claim that this might just be one of the hikers who set up a camera on a stand and
Starting point is 00:22:43 walked out into the frame to take a picture of himself. You can see the picture here and it will kind of contextualize. It is sort of ominous, but you can see where the theory comes from. So either way, the single image is responsible for this 60-year-old theory that they were killed by some sort of like ominous Yeti thing. In 2019, 60 years after the incident, Russian authorities actually reopened the investigation in an effort to use modern forensic techniques and computer modeling to re-examine what happened. Now, the official conclusion that was done in 2019 pointed to a specific type of avalanche
Starting point is 00:23:17 called a catabatic avalanche or a delayed slab avalanche. Now, according to this theory, the hikers were forced to cut their way out of their tent when they maybe started to hear the break in the snow or the snow started to accumulate against it, and it created a risk of collapse or suffocation. Now, the investigators used computer modeling software to show how a delayed avalanche could have occurred several hours after the hikers had actually set up their camp,
Starting point is 00:23:44 potentially triggered by their presence or changes in the wind conditions. So the official story goes like this. The hikers would have fled the tent to avoid being buried, and so they cut their way out, and they left somewhat quickly. They became separated and disoriented in the darkness and the extreme cold, and the injuries found on for the victims would have been the result from the force of the avalanche and their falls into the ravine. Now, however, the official explanation still leaves some of the questions unambulmonary.
Starting point is 00:24:14 answered. Why were the footprints so calm and evenly spaced? Why were two bodies found in their underwear? Why were some hikers wearing the clothes of their dead friends? And where did these chemical burns come from? And what about the lights in the sky? What the picture of the Yeti thing, right? Remember that? So the Diadlov Pass incident is still one of the most studied and debated mysteries in modern history. I mean, you have this combination of like these experienced hikers, extreme conditions, weird evidence, government secrecy of like kind of folding up this whole story. And it just creates the perfect storm for speculation. And what makes this case really compelling is that it involves, you know, these experienced people that should have been able to
Starting point is 00:24:58 handle these winter conditions, yet something caused them to abandon their shelter altogether. Now, the incident has inspired numerous books and movies. And today, the pass where the tent was found has actually been officially renamed to Dietlough Pass in honor of the leader of the group. And perhaps most importantly, the case kind of just highlights just how crazy nature is, right? Like even the most experienced hikers with the right equipment can face these situations or even like a small mistake or like a weird, unexpected event can get you and eight of your friends killed. Now, whether the official avalanche explanation is correct or other factors were involved, nine experienced hikers died in circumstances that we honestly still can't confirm.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Now, today, Diadlov Pass is a tourist destination where people can walk on the same path that the nine hikers did. There's even a memorial at the exact location where the group's tent was found and people go there every year to leave all sorts of trinkets and things to honor their memory. Now, what do we think about this? I don't know. I mean, there's a great website for the record. Delaupass.com, I think is what it's called. It has like all the photos, all the evidence, like super, super detailed stuff that seems like super granular.
Starting point is 00:26:14 But if you're obsessed with this case and you're fascinated by it, I would recommend you go check it out. I really think the avalanche thing makes the most sense. Like, look, these guys worked at a nuclear facility. They might have some, you know, radiation on their clothes. That seems very obvious to me. Why are the other people, like, naked? It's like, okay, maybe they found their, the bodies of their,
Starting point is 00:26:37 dead homies and like, hey, we're freezing to death. We can't find our camp. We're going to take your guys of stuff. Why were the branches all broken? It was like, oh, maybe someone else try to climb it. Like, to me it seems obviously, okay, the group, the avalanche comes. Bang. They get, they're like,
Starting point is 00:26:53 oh, we're about to get crushed by this, you know, the specific type of avalanche. This is pretty sketchy. They didn't think the avalanche was going to come because they were on the right slope. They were like, oh, this is not that, this is not avalanche territory, but they didn't realize that there was a specific type of avalanche that actually just kills hikers on this specific part of the mountain. So it happens.
Starting point is 00:27:11 They're like, oh, shit, we're about to die. They cut their way out. They're like, okay, let's just walk down a little bit, wait for this avalanche to pass because this avalanche is literally going to just like swallow us up if we don't get out of here. They walk out, they go, let's just wait a minute, we'll go back. The group gets separated. They can't find their way back.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Eventually, the big group finds the two guys that are, you know, in their underwear, and they're obviously not in their underwear at the time. They have jackets. They take their jackets. They try to climb. the tree to like see if they can like find where their camp is. They can't find it. They go back down.
Starting point is 00:27:42 They go back to, you know, where the rest of them are. Like, why are they like, they have injuries and stuff like that? I'm like, dude, they're like completely getting frozen to death. I'm sure they fell at some point and cracked their heads. Why are their eyes missing? It's like, okay, animals came and ate their bodies. Do animals do that, though? What?
Starting point is 00:28:01 Did they pick out your eyeballs? Yeah, dude. This is like the whole thing. You never seen a vulture going to town on a possum? Oh, good point. That's just like what they, they just be out here, but that's just a free, that's a freebie. About the radiation, isn't there radiation, the higher you go up in altitude, so it makes sense? That's an interesting question.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Can you get a fact check on that? I've never really heard that, but it might be possible. I mean, what is the sun, dude, that's full radiation and you're closer to the sun, duh, you know? I think that tracks grease us. But also, it's like, dude, they work in a nuclear facility. Right. Like, that seems so obvious. It's like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:32 I'm also like, what kind of lamps are they using? Do they have like flashlights that happen to have like radiation stuff in them? I don't know if you can even power a flashlight on radiation stuff, but I don't know. That's just my theory. So again, I know everyone is like, dude, it was a giant terrifying beast. I'm like, probably not because they would have just ravaged them. They wouldn't have escaped. Like it would have got murked.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Is the radiation thing true? It's experienced by people in mountainous areas, passengers and on airplanes. So yeah. Elevated levels of radiation. Correct. I wonder if they're statistically or like like categorized. significantly that you'd be like, oh, this is the right level. Again, you can probably find this exact info on the website, which people should check out.
Starting point is 00:29:10 But I think that's the most compelling thing to me. Like the Russian military testing thing, like I've even read theories about this where it's like, oh, the military knew that they were going. So they were using them as test subjects. I'm like, dude, there's no way the military is going to use like their Russian nuclear engineers on a hike with their buddies to like murk them out in the mountains. But if they're going to get killed anyway, they don't mind the research that was... Why are they going to kill them anyway? What do you mean? Like, if they're going to die anyway. Oh, you're saying the avalanche thing plus the nuclear plus the military thing?
Starting point is 00:29:46 Exactly. That's a cool theory. I've never heard that one before. Jackpot. So they actually find them and they say, hey, we're not going to save them. We're actually to use this for testing. But then their bodies aren't like nuked. If their bodies were like obliterated in their campsite, it was just blasted off the earth and I'd be like, well, maybe. But I'm like, come on.
Starting point is 00:30:02 I just I don't buy it I'm like look I just I don't know How do you feel about The living ones taking The dead ones clothes Is that? That's completely
Starting point is 00:30:14 Yeah duh Dude you're dying You're freezing to death I would take your shirt Just like if I was chilly You know what I mean Like are you crazy? I get cold
Starting point is 00:30:23 I get cold Yeah duh Like I think that is the most normal thing In the world Like yeah Sorry dude Like it'd be crazy If one of them
Starting point is 00:30:32 Like murk the other one one if they were like, yeah, we're going to put you out and then jack your shit because I'm going to die and you're, you know, that would be crazy. I don't know if anyone's brought that theory up. Oh. Cutting the tent from inside out. If you hear the avalanche, you can actually hear the ice breaking and you're like, oh, shit, something's happening.
Starting point is 00:30:50 You don't have time time to zip? Dude, it's 1950 zippers, dude. You got to just be like, hey, we're about to get swallowed by an avalanche any second. Let's get the hell out of here. Rather grab a knife and cut as opposed to unzip. Yeah, brother. They're sleeping with their knives. They're absolutely locked in.
Starting point is 00:31:05 I think we also got to look at the zippers of these tents. It's not like you're thinking of like a Coleman, you know, 20-25 tent. I don't think that's what we're dealing with here. I think there's like industrial giant zippers with probably like three layers. You got to unzip, da, da, da, da, da. Might not even be zippers. Could be like a tying situation. That's the thing, dude.
Starting point is 00:31:23 That is the absolute thing. I would actually, can we get a fact check on that? That's a great question. Because everyone's like, dude, they cut their way out. I'm like, yeah, we don't even know what was going on. This is 1950s Soviet Russia. They need to be warm in their tents. I don't think these are like little camping tents
Starting point is 00:31:36 that people are normally talking about, you know? There was a form of a zipper starting in 1917. Okay, I'm sure they had a zipper. I'm saying it was heavy duty. The zipper on this tent is heavy duty. It's like a whole thing. It's a double zipper. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:31:50 That's my point. Imagine you're in here. What would be faster? Zip, zip, or you just cut your way out if you think you're about to get swallowed by an amelage. You're naked? You got a knife next to you? You're in a...
Starting point is 00:32:00 Yes, Chris says. You're camping. Of course. So you're not naked, naked, you're in your underwear. Because again, you're wearing like these massive heavy coats all day. You're not going to sleep in your giant coat. You're just going to like pop in your sleeping bag, knock out, wake up, keep it moving. That's the most compelling thing to me.
Starting point is 00:32:17 I really think that that makes the most sense. Now, what's interesting about this is that the evidence in the way it shows up, people just draw all their own theories. They're like, dude, they found the bodies. They were missing eyes. Something came and sucked their eyes out of their head. It's like, no, they died. also animals.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Or people are like, oh, they cut the tent from the inside. What must have happened? A supersonic weapon? And I'm like, an avalanche. Like, it's just like, this is again, kind of an Occam's Razor thing. It's like the most likely explanation is the one that it's the simplest. And typically it's, you know, I think that I'm all for conspiracy theories. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:32:53 But I just think this one, I'm going to go, gun to my head. I'm saying avalanche. With that said, what 23-year-old is going with his boy? to go hike for a week and a half in the worst terrain of all time. That's like, I'm not, look. They're fucking Soviets. They are Soviets and you guys are wild people. Technically Soviets don't exist anymore.
Starting point is 00:33:15 The Russians, though, y'all are crazy. And look, no disrespect, all right, RIP of the dead, pour one out for all the homies, sure. Don't do that. Don't go to the mountains. Don't disappear into the mountains and be like, yeah, I'll hit you all up in two weeks. you'll, you know, if we don't come back, look for us.
Starting point is 00:33:34 You're 23 years old. Drink vodka. You have the hottest women in the world. This is post-world... Dude, Russian women are, like, by far. Maybe not by far, but, like, pristine. Sure. Pristine.
Starting point is 00:33:46 And this is post-World War II. All the men just died. There's now all these women that are now populating Moscow, St. Petersburg. I think technically Stalingrad still. I can't actually... Leningrad. I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:33:59 All that, all that... It's Leningrad, I think. But I don't know if they changed it to St. Petersburg yet. Anyway, all I'm saying is that there's beautiful Russian women walking around and you're like, you know, it'd be a fun weekend. Just be gone for two weeks in the snow. Not that they deserved it. No one deserves this. But they deserve it more than like me.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Because I'm not doing this kind of stuff. This is the way that I think like, the way black people look at white people, this is how white people look at like Russians. We're like, dude, that is white people shit. Like, y'all are doing too much. Just chill. drink's a vodka. Go to a bathhouse. You have a bono over there.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Just chill. You know what I mean? You don't need to do all this. Haven't you had multiple camping trips? Yeah, I like to camp in moderate temperature. I love camping. As you can see, take a look. But I like to do it in Brooklyn, New York.
Starting point is 00:34:46 In an air-conditioned room. Not where we are. Obviously, we're deep in the wilderness. I also, every time I camp, it is like end of summer, like springtime. It's moderate. Not a ton of mosquitoes. depending where you are in the country, obviously. I have yet to do snow camping,
Starting point is 00:35:03 which I would consider. But it just, like, guys, this is crazy. I bet you you sleep so good, though. I bet you you go snow camping, you go through this whole thing, you're hiking all day, you get in your tent, and you just hear the wind outside.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Oh, I bet you that sleep hits crazy. Anyway, now, if this story sounds familiar to you, it's because I did an entire episode on it with my dear friend Casey Rocket. And we talked about that with like, we also talk about a bunch of, other like crazy sort of unsolved mystery, lost footage, just like, you know, crazy little wormholes. If you enjoyed this episode, there's this plus much more with the brilliant and hilarious Casey Rock.
Starting point is 00:35:40 And you can check that in the description. And, yeah, that's all I have really to say about Die Adloff Pass. Anything else you'd like to contribute Christos? Nope. So there you go. In the end, you know, no one really knows what's going on. And it may never be fully known what exactly happened. But the incident continues to, you know, capture imaginations, my imagination for sure,
Starting point is 00:36:03 and just reminds us once again that some questions maybe have no answers. But that, ladies gentlemen, is the Dietlough Pass incident. If you are familiar with this, if you've researched, if you got through the whole website, if you've seen other videos on it, please let me know. Is there anything I missed? Is there anything I got wrong? Anything I glanced over? If you've never heard of this, what'd you learn?
Starting point is 00:36:23 Is there anything that you came away with? What's your theory? What do you think happened? and I implore you to comment, not only because it's, you know, just a nice little community we got building in the comments, but in addition to that,
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