Camp Gagnon - The Saint Who KILLED Jesus | Saint Longinus

Episode Date: December 28, 2025

Today, we explore the story of Saint Longinus. We’ll see the identity of the centurion who pierced Christ’s side on the cross, his transformation from a soldier guarding the tomb to a devoted Chri...stian, the incredible legends of his later life and martyrdom, and the mysterious history of the artifact he’s eternally linked to: the Spear of Destiny... Welcome to Religion Camp! 🏕️Shoutout to our sponsor: Mars MenFor a limited time, our listeners get 60% off FOR LIFE AND 3 Free Gifts at Mars Men when you use code 'CAMP' at https://mengotomars.com✝️☪️✡️🕉️☦️ Religion Camp Merch: https://camp-rd.com🎟️ 🎫 Comedy Tour Tickets Here: https://markgagnonlive.com🏕️ Get Today In History Email Here (Free): https://www.dailytodayinhistory.com Timestamps:0:00 Who Was Longinus?4:37 Jesus Enters Jerusalem6:50 Stabbing Jesus on The Cross10:15 Guarding The Tomb of Jesus12:39 Baptized By Apostles14:56 Romans Hunt Down Longinus18:40 The Death of Saint Longinus21:59 Miracle of Longinus’ Severed Head25:01 Longinus’ Spear of Destiny#peace #podcast #history #religion #Jesus #jesuschrist #educational #information

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Almost everyone has heard of the crucifixion of Christ, but what most people don't bring up is the man, not the man on the cross, but the man who pierced his side. His name was Longinus, and he's not only responsible for delivering the final wound that killed Jesus Christ, but he's also one of the first witnesses of the resurrection, and the only person who have his blindness healed by the blood of Christ. But apart from the man, there was also a weapon, the holy lance, the weapon so feared that legend says the man who held it could never face defeat. This is the story of Langenuse, a soldier whose entire life changed in an instant, and the saint who delivered a final attack on Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:00:40 If you were interested in religious history, the crucifixion of Jesus, and the saints that don't always get talked about, this is the episode for you. So sit back, relax, and welcome to Religion Camp. What's up, people, and welcome back to Religion Camp. My name is Mark Gagnon, and thank you for joining. joining me in my tent where every single week we explore the most interesting, fascinating, controversial stories from every religion from around the world from all time forever. Yes, this is my attempt to understand what everyone believes. There's billions of people on this
Starting point is 00:01:14 planet and billions more that are already dead. And I want to figure out where they are and what they believed while they were here on this big, beautiful planet. I truly believe you can't understand the people without understanding the God that they worship. So this is my attempt to go through everything. And on this channel, we go through Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, and all of the above, let me say up top, I am not a religious scholar. I'm not a theologian. I'm just a guy with a Wi-Fi connection trying to figure it all out. Now, of course, this show is not possible without you watching at home, supporting this channel. It truly means the world. It's also not possible without my Greek Orthodox friend, Christos. Christos, how are you? Calamera.
Starting point is 00:01:52 What's up, religion? All right, Christos. I just wanted you to say, is it Calameta or not? Well, right now it's Calispera. Caliesta. Or Cali Nichta. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, come on, dude. You got to chill with that kind of language around here, all right? This is why we can't let you get the mic too much, Christos, because you get crazy. Now, guys, today we are talking about one of the lesser-known saints in Catholicism, a very fascinating figure he's talked about in the Bible, and he exists in Christian tradition. And let me just address one thing about this man, Langenus.
Starting point is 00:02:26 At times, I might just say, you know, Langeness, because that's how most people say it. but this guy is one of those figures whose story sits between authentic religious tradition, the inspired word of God, as we know it in the Bible, and also medieval embellishment, all right? Early Christians who remembered this guy, right, this soldier at the crucifixion, and a lot of people talk about it,
Starting point is 00:02:49 but the details around him grow over centuries, which is what makes, you know, understanding him a little bit tricky, right? Trying to parse the historical figure and the legend that exists. exists around him. However, according to legend, Langeness is said to have been born in the mountain region of Capadocia, which is now like central Turkey during the reign of Emperor Tiberius. Now, of course, this is the emperor of the region that was the Roman emperor when Christ was crucified. This makes
Starting point is 00:03:18 sense, right? Now, around the time of the crucifixion, he was probably a seasoned Roman soldier, so he's probably in like his 30s or 40s at that time. Now, growing up in Capadocia, he was familiar with a lot of diverse cultures and religions. I mean, this region was the crossroads between the east and the west, so people coming from all over the world had to travel through this area to get to their destination.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Now, an interesting, fun fact, Longinus probably wasn't his actual name. The Gospels never really identify him by name. The term Langenus first appears in the fourth century in an apocryphal text that we know as the Gospel of Nicodemus, and it likely comes from the Greek word
Starting point is 00:03:55 Lonche, meaning spear or lance. And over time, Lanchet became Langenus when it was actually, you know, Latinified or whatever. And it literally just means spear guy. It's like the guy with the spear, the spear dude. And it stuck around for nearly 2,000 years. Now, as a centurion in the Roman legions, Langeness commanded between 80 and 100 soldiers and represented like the real backbone of the Roman military.
Starting point is 00:04:22 And if you know anything about Rome, they were a military empire. So these weren't just tough fighters. These centurians needed intelligence and tactical skill and just complete ruthlessness. So in order to become a centurion in this time in Rome, you had to survive years of brutal campaigns and battles. And, you know, so it's implied that Longinus likely had served in, you know, multiple provinces before actually being stationed in this area under Pontius Pilate. Now, by the time we meet Longinus in the story, he had probably overseen dozens, maybe even hundreds of, crucifixions it's really hard to put a number on but roman crucifixion was designed to be the most humiliating and agonizing death possible i mean it is so brutal i mean one of the ways you die is not
Starting point is 00:05:09 actually from blood loss or uh you know from the hanging it's literally you're affixated like your lungs you can't catch your breath and you slowly just suffocate to death publicly in front of anyone that passes by and it was just reserved for the worst people who was for slaves and, I mean, bandits and thieves and, of course, political revolutionaries, rebels, if you will. So what happened next completely changed Langeness's worldview. The legend of Langeness within Catholic tradition takes place during Holy Week, right? These are like the seven days that lead up to Easter. Now, back in his time, tensions had been building throughout, you know, throughout Jerusalem. Jesus of Nazareth had entered the city while riding a donkey as
Starting point is 00:05:58 crowds were proclaiming him king, like literally Hosanna, Hosanna, which was a direct callback to the prophecy in Zachariad 9-9 about a future king arriving humble and riding on a donkey. And the Hosanna reference comes from Psalm 118, a Passover hymn literally that means save us now, traditionally used to welcome a God-sent king. But almost immediately after his arrival, Jesus walked into the temple and he saw a bunch of, you know, money changers in the temple. And he flipped all their tables and he shouted that my house shall be called a house of prayer, but you have made it a den of thieves, quoting directly from Isaiah 56, 7 and Jeremiah 7, verse 11. This wasn't just a symbolic gesture. This was a direct assault on the economic system
Starting point is 00:06:46 that existed within the temple and a public rebuke of the leadership of the temple. And so to a Roman officer like launderingness, this didn't look like, you know, some wandering peaceful preacher. It was the beginning of a potential revolt, right? A man had just entered the city to royal chance and all these people saying, save us now and invoking, you know, ancient prophecy about, you know, this new king sent from God. And now he's disrupting the holiest sight in Jerusalem. You can see how this becomes an issue, right? So when the Jewish leaders of the time bring Jesus before Pilate, they charge him with claiming to be the king of the Jews. And at this time, any claim to kingship is treasonous against Rome, right?
Starting point is 00:07:26 There's only one king. And that's Tiberius, right? And technically, amongst Judea, it is Pontius Pilate. And this is punishable by crucifixion. Also at this point, a crowd of people had gathered around. And according to John 1912, local leaders were insisting that, you know, if they let Jesus go, it would make Pontius' pilot no friend of Caesar. Literally no friend of, you know, Tiberius.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Now, Pilate then ultimately made this decision, and according to the legend, he ordered Longinus to oversee the execution of this Jewish preacher along with two criminals. Now, this takes us to Galgotha, also known as the Place of the Skull. This is a hill that stood outside Jerusalem's walls where many of these crucifixions would take place. It was here that Longinus stationed his men to carry out three crucifixions. The two other criminals were no different than the others that, you know, he had executed. of times before, but something was different about Jesus. And what Langeness witnessed during those hours defied everything that he thought he knew. As Jesus was being nailed to the cross, he didn't curse his executioners or beg for mercy like other victims. Instead, he prayed, saying,
Starting point is 00:08:36 Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. And when one of the crucified thieves turns to Jesus and says, Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom, Jesus turns to the man and says, truly, I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise. Now, this was not normal criminal behavior. It wasn't even normal human behavior, right? Especially when facing this brutal death. So for Longinus, watching this unfold made the entire execution start to feel very different than anything he had seen before. And then, of course, according to Christian tradition, this is when these supernatural events began. At noon, darkness covered the entire land, not clouds, but just darkness. That lasted for
Starting point is 00:09:18 three hours. Longinus had fought many battles and seen a ton of different omens, but nothing like this. So when Jesus died, the earth immediately responded with this earthquake. Rocks split apart, tombs cracked open, and the massive temple veil tore from
Starting point is 00:09:34 top to bottom. Despite this, the protocol for crucifixion still had to be followed. Roman procedure required confirming death before releasing the body. So, Longinus took his spear, that lance that would make him famous throughout history, and the reason we're talking about him today,
Starting point is 00:09:51 and he pierced Jesus's side just below the heart. Now, according to the Gospels, immediately blood and water float out, a medically accurate detail that physicians today actually recognize as consistent with death by crucifixion. But then the miracle happened. According to church tradition,
Starting point is 00:10:10 Longinus suffered a serious eye problem. It was a real issue that he had for many years and possibly a condition known as ophthalmia, which was common amongst soldiers and a lot of like really dusty, bright climates. But miraculously, some of the blood and water splashed onto Longinus's face and into his eyes. And in that instant, his medical issue was resolved.
Starting point is 00:10:33 His vision cleared completely. And for the first time in years, he could see perfectly. But more than physical healing occurred. According to tradition, spiritual sight came with him. And as he looked at this crucified man before him, he realized that he had just made a massive mistake. And he spoke these words, truly this man was the son of God. Also, just to point this out for context,
Starting point is 00:10:56 this quote does come literally from the gospel and is said to have come directly from the centurion. But again, his name just isn't mentioned directly. So we at least know that a soldier did say this, but his name and story is sort of what has been added to this legend. Now, with the legend, the story only continues to grow. Longinus' relationship with Christ didn't just end at the crucifixion. The Jewish leaders were worried because Jesus had made a prediction that he would rise on the third day.
Starting point is 00:11:26 So he asked Pontius Pilate for a Roman guard to secure the tomb. And according to legend, Pilate assigned the very man who had overseen the crucifixion to do just that. And that man was Longinus. So what happened during those three days must have been extraordinary. According to Matthew's Gospel, there was another earthquake early Sunday morning. and an angel appeared, rolling away the stone, and causing the guards to collapse like dead men. Traditionally said to mean that they were asleep on the job, is how most biblical scholars interpret it. But when these soldiers are covered, the tomb was empty, with only a linen burial garment left behind.
Starting point is 00:12:02 That is the shroud of Turin, which we've done an episode on. You guys should go check that out. The Jewish authorities began panicking about what would happen if news of this empty tune began to spread. So they decided to take things to their own hands. offered substantial bribes to soldiers to spread a false story. They said, oh, just say that the disciples had came in and that they stole the body while while they were sleeping. Just say that. Now, this appears in Matthew 28, verses 12 through 15.
Starting point is 00:12:29 And it literally says, when the chief priest had met with the elders and devised a plan, they gave the soldiers a large sum of money, telling them you were to say his disciples came during the night, stole him away while we were asleep. If this report gets out to the governor, it will satisfy him and keep you out of trouble. So they took the money and did his money. they were directed, and this story is still told amongst the Jews today. Now, during this time, Roman soldiers admitting they fell asleep on duty, it's a death sentence, right? It was literally capital punishment under Roman law. So when they were offered a way out and, you know, just basically,
Starting point is 00:13:02 you know, smooth it over, say that this happened, but nothing will happen to you. Most of these guards took the deal, but not Longinus. Something fundamental had changed in him at that moment of the crucifixion, the healing of his sight, and maybe even more than that, the healing of his heart or his soul, however it's interpreted, he refused the bribe and instead began telling people what really happened on the cross. But again, this is extremely dangerous, right? He's going against his superiors, and he's proclaiming that this person actually is the son of God, and he's defying the religious authority, and he's really risking his own life. Now, according to legend, and it's really hard to pin down exactly where this came from, Wangeness eventually realized he could no longer serve
Starting point is 00:13:45 Rome while following Christ, so he made a dramatic decision. He stripped off his armor, laid down his weapons, and went looking for the men Rome was hunting. Now, of course, these men are the apostles. Deep in Jerusalem, the apostles were still hiding, right, in fear for their lives, but eventually Wonginus found them and asked to be baptized. Peter, John, and the others were amazed to meet the very centurion who had overseen the crucifixion of Christ, and now they wanted to learn from him. So the apostles welcome him, and after receiving baptism and spending time learning, you know, from those who had actually talked and broke bread with Jesus, Longinus made another life-changing decision. He would return home to Capadocia, not as a retired soldier, but as a missionary for the
Starting point is 00:14:32 gospel that had transformed his life. Another interesting fun fact, and something that's not really mentioned a lot, is that two of Longinus's fellow soldiers, often named Petronius and Cassius, shared the experience of guarding Jesus's tomb and also converted after effectively witnessing the resurrection of Christ. They also chose to accompany Longinus on his ministry to Capadocia. Now, again, a lot of this comes from sometimes medieval myth-making. So at this point, very little of this is actually included in the Gospels for anyone that's watching that is not Christian, but it still exists within church lore. Now, back in Cabotia, Longinus immediately threw himself into a religious lifestyle
Starting point is 00:15:13 while simultaneously becoming one of Christianity's most effective early preachers. His testimony was unique because he wasn't preaching from hearsay or, oh, I heard from a guy, or someone said something. This was firsthand testimony of someone who had been intimately involved in the crucifixion and the death and ultimately the resurrection of Jesus Christ. What's up, guys? We're going to take a break really quick. quick because I have a story to tell you. Fun fact, after you have a child, your testosterone naturally goes
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Starting point is 00:17:56 Longinus's preaching sparked what could basically just be described as like mass conversion throughout the region. entire villages abandoned their pagan gods and just embraced Christianity wholeheartedly. The transformation was so dramatic that within a few years, Christianity had deep roots throughout the entire region, roots that would help make Cabdoche a major center of early Christian theology and monasticism. Now, back in Jerusalem, the Jewish religious authorities were beginning to hear reports that the very Roman centurion who had actually killed Jesus was now preaching about the resurrection and converting thousands of people to Christianity. And this is exactly
Starting point is 00:18:30 what they didn't want, right? This is basically like another apostle, right? This is a credible testimony from a trustworthy person who, you know, was highly ranked within, you know, the Roman military that is now undermining their efforts to suppress this early Christian movement. So, as the story goes, Pilot at that point was now going to go ahead and get rid of Langeness. They, you know, amongst the Jewish authority, he was seen as someone that was, you know, talking about this guy, Jesus Christ, who was obviously massively problematic within the region. And then to Pilot, it was like, yo, this guy was one of our soldiers and now he deserted us and he's like praising one of the people he killed. Like we cannot stand for any of our Roman soldiers to have
Starting point is 00:19:12 gone crazy. So as a result, pilot dispatches a squad of soldiers to Capadocia with orders to arrest and execute Langeness and his companions for desertion, treason, and disturbing the peace. So the soldiers make the long journey up to Capadocia and began searching for their target. They had descriptions, but they never actually met Langeness personally, right? So after asking around, you know, in this region, which is literally Langeness's hometown, they're trying to figure out where they can find them, and they were directed to a modest house on the outskirts of the village. And when they knocked, the unthinkable happened.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Someone opened the door, and who was it? Langeness. Without revealing his identity, he welcomed the soldiers in, and he invited them to rest and to eat, and his companions quietly just made a meal while Langeness. was listening to the soldiers telling him of their plan that they're hunting these dangerous deserters of the Roman Legion named Langeness and his companions that needed to be captured and executed. And throughout the evening, Langeness served his basically bounty hunters and gave them this genuine kindness. He asked about their journey and their families and their service. And the soldiers
Starting point is 00:20:21 were really impressed by their host's character and his wisdom and just how well that he understood military life, but, you know, had just found something better and moved on. So the next morning, as the soldiers prepared to continue to their hunt, Langeness gathered them together saying, I need to tell you something. I am the launderness you're looking for. The soldiers are like, skirt, what? The man who had shown them all this hospitality and their kindness, this is the guy that pilot wants us to go kill.
Starting point is 00:20:53 The revelation created a crisis for the soldiers, you can imagine, right? How could they arrest someone and effectively kill someone that had just treated them like family? They had just traveled so long and they're trying to get this guy. And then he just spent the whole evening taking care of them and giving them a place to sleep and feeding them. So they urged Langeness to flee, promising to report that they couldn't find him. And they had grown to respect and in some ways even admire this man just over their brief time together. But Langeness refused to run. He called his two companions and together they made.
Starting point is 00:21:26 made a choice. They could face martyrdom rather than deny their faith or just live and hiding. The soldiers torn basically in this moment between duty to Rome and to the emperor and to the Caesar and their affection and their affinity and like this human relationship they built with this man and reluctantly they took the three men into custody. Then as they traveled to the capital, the guards found themselves receiving impromptu theology lessons from. these prisoners who remain joyful and peaceful despite facing this certain death. Now, this next part, let me just say is highly debated. Again, remember, a lot of what we know about Longinus and the stories that are told,
Starting point is 00:22:09 a lot of it comes up in medieval times, and a lot of it circulates and is embellished. And the true story of Longinus is difficult to really pin down. But a lot of these embellishments are really cool, so I think it's worth saying. Okay. It said that upon arrival, the Roman governor, gave Longinus and his companions a choice, okay? Sacrifice to the Roman gods, formally deny Christ, and receive a pardon for desertion, or we got to kill you. So these three men, as you can imagine, they say, yeah, that's fine, you can kill us.
Starting point is 00:22:42 So the governor ordered traditional torture to break them. Despite this, Longinus continued preaching under torture, and even after guards knocked out all of his teeth, Longinus still spoke clearly, proclaiming the name of Jesus Christ as the Lord and the Savior. Now, again, a lot of this is probably embellished in some capacity, but these are the medieval legends that go around. At this point, the governor is frustrated, and so he orders the ultimate silencing. He wants Longinus's tongue to be cut out completely.
Starting point is 00:23:13 But then came another great miracle in Longinus's life. Despite having no tongue, he continued to speak. The governors, the guards, and everyone present stared, and amazement. Now, again, likely this is embellished, but this is the story. Lajanus then did something that must have been terrifying to witness. He grabbed a nearby axe and began destroying the pagan idols in the governor's chamber, smashing them to pieces while shouting. Now we all shall see whether they are gods. It is said, according to tradition, that when the idols shattered, demons that had been inhabiting them were released and immediately
Starting point is 00:23:47 attacked the governor and made him go blind in retaliation for the destruction of their dwelling place. Now, realizing that further torture would only produce more miracles, the governor just ordered immediate execution. So Longinus knelt calmly and began praying for his executioners and was killed. Now, of course, the legend with Longinus doesn't end there. As the blade fell, it is said that some of the blood splashed into the governor's face and instantly his sight, which had been taken away by the demons, was restored to the same miraculous blood that had healed Longinus's eye at the crucifixion had now healed the very man who ordered his death. Now, the story's beautiful. It was a fantastic story, but the real story is likely not as poetic. When Longinus arrived to the city,
Starting point is 00:24:37 he and the two soldiers were just simply beheaded. Probably no idol breaking or demons or miracles or tongue-cutting or eye healing or anything like that, just beheading and execution for these three rebels that deserted the Roman Legion. Now, for one of the more traditional stories associated with Longinus, following orders, the soldiers severed Longinus's head and transported back to Jerusalem as proof that their mission was successful. Pontius Pilate and many of the other authorities of the region satisfied that their problem was finally, you know, solved, ordered the head thrown into these cities garbage dump outside the walls, basically saying and was unworthy of any type of burial.
Starting point is 00:25:20 But, according to stories, God had other plans for this relic. Years passed and during the reign of a later emperor, a wealthy blind widow from Capadocia, decided to make a pilgrimage to Jerusalem with her son, hoping that prayer at this holy site might actually restore her vision. The pilgrimage became great, but when they arrived in Jerusalem, her son fell ill and died within days, leaving the mother alone in this foreign city,
Starting point is 00:25:47 broken and blind and without guidance. She then faced the decision to either make her way home alone or die alone in Jerusalem. So that night, she wept in her bed and St. Longinus appeared to her in this dream and next to him was a young man that she recognized as her son. Longinus told the woman not to mourn for her son because he's in heaven and that if she wished to see him, she must restore her vision by retrieving his head. Yeah, literally. Like, hey, go find my head that was thrown beyond the city walls. He then gave her specific directions and assured her that touching his head, this relic, it would restore both her physical sight and her spiritual vision of her son's heavenly glory.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Now, despite the strangest of the request, the widow fell compelled and followed the orders. Now, the next morning, the widow hired guides to lead her to this area outside of Jerusalem's walls. and when she arrived, she began digging just with her bare hands into basically like a garbage pile, followed, you know, basically following the saint's instructions. And after hours of searching through the garbage, her fingers felt something. Now, as soon as her hands made contact with Longinus's preserved head, her sight was restored. And after finding the head of Longinus and recovering her sight, the woman brought this relic back to the place where she was staying in Jerusalem.
Starting point is 00:27:09 And she kept it there, and she had another vision. Longinus appeared again, standing next to him, and he showed her that her son was now in a state of honor and peace and counted amongst those in God's kingdom. Longinus then gave her one final instruction, take both his head and her son's body, place them together for a burial, reassuring her that her son would remain in joy and rest. Now, when she awoke, she followed the instructions, given him the vision, she returned to Cabotio, where she buried her son and the head of the martyr Longinus. in the same place. Now, again, just as a footnote, that story is not something that is verifiable historical fact, as you can imagine, but it is something that exists within the Christian tradition, so I felt like it was important to discuss in this episode. Now, today,
Starting point is 00:27:57 St. Longinus is venerated across multiple Christian traditions, Roman Catholics to Eastern Orthodox, Greek Orthodox, right, Christos. All right, all right, Armenian apostolic tradition, and a lot of other churches really just honor him as a martyr and as a saint. His feast day is October 16th, and it's celebrated with special liturgies that often include the reading of the crucifixion and his martyrdom. But some of the coolest things about Langeness are this artifact. Multiple locations claim to have relics of St. Longinus, but most famously, the Holy Lance, or as the Nazis called it, the Spear of Destiny. Now, there's all sorts of crazy history with this thing. and we can get into some of it.
Starting point is 00:28:41 The three places said to hold the spear are the Vatican, the Hofberg treasury in Vienna, and a church in Armenia. Now, the lance in Vienna is far from a battlefield weapon. It was a part of the imperial regalia of the Holy Roman Empire and can be traced to the 8th or 9th century, likely from the time of Charlemagne, the Holy Roman Emperor.
Starting point is 00:29:04 It first appears in written records during the Carolingian period, when rulers were making a lot of fake relics to reinforce their legitimacy. Emperors wanted their regalia to be tied to Jerusalem or the passion of the Christ or anything that involved divine authority. So you can imagine owning the spear that pierced Jesus Christ himself symbolized divine authority and became a political tool rather than literally a Christian relic. Now, the Vatican's lance, however, isn't exactly a full spirit. It's a fragment that came from Constantinople after it fell to the Ottomans in 1453. Sultan by Azid II sent a piece of the relic
Starting point is 00:29:49 to Pope Innocent the 8th during diplomatic negotiations, although it was most likely fake also. It's really difficult to verify these relics, right? You can actually see a replica of the fragment in the hand of Pope Innocent the 7th. However, the Armenian spear holds a story with a written tradition that's technically older than both of those. The earliest known reference to the Armenian lance appears in a 13th century manuscript titled Holy Relics of Our Lord Jesus Christ. Now, this text states that the spear was brought to Armenia by the Apostle Thaddeus, one of the earliest figures associated with Christianity in the region. However, the manuscript doesn't explicitly name a specific place where the relic was kept, but its description matches the monastery now called Gagardavonk,
Starting point is 00:30:42 or the monastery of the Holy Lance. It describes features of the site, most noticeably the monastery gate, which is exactly how historians were able to connect this manuscript, you know, to that tradition. Another interesting fact, the spear in Armenia is put on display once a year for people to come see it. You can go see it even still to this day on that space. Pacific Feastay. Now, the most famous story associated with the lance actually comes from the First Crusade in 1098 when the Crusader army was starving and trapped inside a city. Now, a soldier named Peter Bartholomew claimed to receive visions telling him that the true lance was buried beneath
Starting point is 00:31:22 the Church of St. Peter. So, the Crusaders dug into the floor and they find this corroded spearhead with no identifying features. However, many accept it immediately because morale was collapsing and the army needed a sign and this dude has a dream and says that, hey, there's a spear under the ground and they dig it up and they find it. Now, others, including, you know, high-ranking clergy suspected that it had just been planted there. Regardless of, you know, what this object was or where it came from, the discovery boosted morale and the crusaders soon broke the siege. Now, you're probably thinking, you know, what everyone else is thinking. Lincoln was like, all right, where's the real one? Well, in the mid-18th century, Pope Benedict was actually
Starting point is 00:32:06 asking the same question. He had heard that a supposed Holy Lance in Paris might match the one that was kept in St. Peter's, so he asked for an exact drawing of the Paris relic to be sent to Rome. After comparing the sketch to the Vatican spearhead, he concluded that the Paris Lance tip appeared to fit the missing portion of the Vatican fragment, as if, like, they had once been part of like the same blade. However, many modern historians note that his conclusion was based just only on visual comparison, not like real solid scientific evidence. And the two pieces have never actually been scientifically shown to be related. But apart from the spear, the Russian Orthodox Cathedral of St. John the Baptist in Washington, D.C., also claims to possess a bone
Starting point is 00:32:53 fragment from Langenus. However, in Brazil, St. Langeness developed a very unique role given to the fact that his relics have been spread all over the country. So he's known as the patron saint of lost objects in Brazil. Brazilians regularly will call upon the saint in venerating him and literally will call
Starting point is 00:33:14 him Saolozigno. When they've misplaced something important, they'll recite this chant, Sao Logino, Sal Lajinio, Se U Achar, literally like, missing object. And it literally just means like St. Launinus, St. Laudanus. If I find this missing item, I'll hop
Starting point is 00:33:30 three times. This tradition supposedly originated from legends of Longinus's short stature and keen Einstein, which allegedly helps them find stuff that rolls under the couch. It's sort of silly, but that's just how it was kind of used within, you know, Brazilian Catholic
Starting point is 00:33:46 lore. Now, whether historical or not, the practice just demonstrates how saints sort of adapt or get adapted to meet the practical needs of, you know, different religious people across different cultures. Now, what makes St. Longinus and his story powerful isn't just the miracles, of course, that is, you know, miraculous.
Starting point is 00:34:07 But it's just how completely his life changed, right? He went from being this Roman soldier carrying out orders to someone who openly followed what he believed was the truth, even though it cost him his job and safety and ultimately his life. And the story, I think, is important, right, even to non-believers, just to contextualize, like how, you know, saints in their story. always get, you know, told within the church. And what I think Longinus symbolizes is that no one is too far gone to be redeemed, right? Like, if the soldier who literally killed Jesus and delivered the final blow, then anyone can change their life and, you know, take up the call to follow Christ, no matter what they've done or who they are, right? Langeness was like a seasoned, nearly blind soldier following orders and, you know, killed a man,
Starting point is 00:35:01 and ended up as a saint remembered across the world with, you know, relics being venerated in churches all over, right? His life changed because he witnessed something that forced him to choose not what was easy, but what he felt like was the truth. So next time you hear a story of the crucifixion, remember the soldier standing at the cross. Also, you know, you lose something. You know who to reach out to. Old St. Lodge and this. Make sure you hop three times.
Starting point is 00:35:32 And that is the story of the saint who quite literally killed Jesus Christ. Interesting one. There's a lot of stuff that I didn't realize. Like, even going through the research on this, I didn't realize, like, the, you know, the sort of cultural fervor that he had in Brazil, which is so interesting how, like, different, like, I feel like in America where we talk about St. Anthony. Like, I'll hear a lot of people
Starting point is 00:35:56 be like, oh, St. Anthony, help me find stuff. Like, he'll be like the patron saint of lost items within, like, a Catholic tradition. But it's just interesting. Like, there's also so many interesting stories about the Holy Lance, like Charlemagne, Holy Roman Empire or Emperor. Allegedly, according to the story,
Starting point is 00:36:14 had the Holy Lance while he was doing his crusades and run around and battling people, you know, in his time. And never lost a battle while he had the lance in his hands. And then according to the story, he dropped the lance, lost it in the river, and that's when he was killed. That's what the story says. It's also said that, and again, I think this is probably a little embellished, but that Hitler had a vested interest in the Holy Lance. And that when the Nazis and the Third Reich actually went into Austria and, you know, seized Vienna, that's one of the first things that,
Starting point is 00:36:53 Hitler was interested in was that he wanted to go to the House of Treasures and go get the Holy Lance. Now, again, I think this has probably been embellished. I think it's probably possible that he sent his people in there to go get money and resources because they were doing a very aggressive war effort. And this was one of the things that they potentially got. But it's an interesting little ripple in this whole thing. People try to speculate. They're like, oh, Hitler believed that the Holy Lance had a special power and that's why he wanted it.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Now, there's so many things associated with Christ that sort of exist as like folklore like the Holy Lance is something that people talk about, right? Like even Tenacious D has like the pick of destiny. Like that's obviously a play on the spear of destiny. The Holy Grail, do you know what that is? I don't.
Starting point is 00:37:38 The chalice that Christ used at the Last Supper. And that's where it comes from, I think. But it is interesting, right? So many different things come out of like medieval folklore about Christ and like the crucifixion and like the last days of Christ that sort of explode into like these massive
Starting point is 00:37:56 pop cultural you know phenomena that kind of get passed down from generation and generation but launderingness is a great story even if you don't like obviously there's elements of this centurion that exist within the Bible that if you're a Christian you can accept as you know the divine inspired word of God but even if you know you're not Christian or you know
Starting point is 00:38:16 even if you don't fully believe all the stories like you know I don't believe in like the demon pagan story with his tongue getting cut out. Like, I'm not like, oh, this is 100% true. I don't know how you verify that. But just the symbolism of what the story is, that even the guy that killed Christ can be redeemed. And that by, you know, giving yourself to Christ, you can, you know, still appear in the kingdom of heaven.
Starting point is 00:38:39 I think there's something nice about that, right? So even you, whatever your sin is, whatever the sin you're doing right now, whatever the sin you're about to do when you close this video, that dirty little sin I know you're about to get up to. There's still redemption for you and for me and for all of us. And may we all join in the choir of Christ. Anyway, this is a fun episode.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Kind of always cool to, you know, go down these whining paths. Christo, is there anything you picked up from this? Just that he kind of represents the bridge between the Roman world and early Christian faith. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I guess he's like the first Roman Christian, you know? Soldier of the empire became a saint, symbolizing the message of Christianity. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:22 It's kind of cool. Exactly. And apparently, I don't know how, like, his name is, like, I was even looking when doing research, I was like, oh, there must be like a church of St. Longinus and Capadocia. I don't think there is. That's crazy, right? Put a little more respect on my boy. Like, he's buried there.
Starting point is 00:39:39 His head is back there, buried with this dude. That story with the lady is crazy. Like, that's a tough week. She goes to Jerusalem. She's blind. She's trying to fix her eyesight. her kid dies, she gets a dream, finds a severed head, takes it, like,
Starting point is 00:39:54 what a, that's a quixotic tale if I've ever heard one. That just seems like a whole thing. Also, the way they name people after saints, no one uses the name Langeness. Yeah, that's a good point. That would be a nice one, Langeness. You know, my confirmation saint, Simon of Sireen, the man who helped Christ
Starting point is 00:40:13 as he was going to his crucifixion, helped him carry the cross. And that is the, uh, actually where CrossFit is, is invented. That's a bad thing. Christos, that's a bad, don't even laugh. You're wrong for laughing because that's not funny. Anyway, I hope you guys learn something. If you're a religious scholar and I got something wrong, please drop a comment. My bad. If you're just a guy like me that's interested in religious history, let me know what you thought. Please drop a comment. I would love to know if you're a Christian, is this news to you? Did you learn something new? If you're not Christian,
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