Camp Gagnon - US Presidents Who Were Gay? Comedians React

Episode Date: March 11, 2025

🚨Remember to Rate Us 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟Today we discuss some crazy gay allegations about former US presidents. Join us to dissect if some of these presidents were really gay or if their letters to their homies were just taken out of context. WELCOME TO CAMP! 🏕️Shoutout to our sponsor: Morgan & Morgan, Bluechew and Magic SpoonMagicSpoon: https://magicspoon.com/camp👕🧢 GET YOUR CAMP DRIP HERE: https://campgoods.co/🏕️ Get The Daily Today In History Email Here (Free): https://camp.beehiiv.com/TIMESTAMP: 0:00 Telepathic Kids + Roblox LiveLeak4:57 Women's Literature Is a Cookbook7:39 Trump Is LEAST Gay + Big Mike Took Out The Chef + Obama’s Love Letter24:41 Candace Owens Is a DIME + “Daddy” Macron26:39 Abe Lincoln Sharing Beds With His Friends35:51 George Washington’s Secret Lover41:10 Franklin Pierce’s Love Story With Nathaniel Hawthorne 46:32 James Buchanan Affair With Andrew Jackson53:15 JFK’s and Kurt Billings + Diddy’s Party + Fidel Played For The Mets?1:06:38 LBJ Was Hung + Upskirt Cam1:20:48 Thomas Jefferson Calls John Adams Hermaphroditic1:22:45 Andrew Jackson’s Lover + Luigi Mangione’s Backshots + Charles Manson’s Music1:30:25 Bill Clinton + Richard Prior + Comedy Hecklers1:49:18 Dwight Eisenhower Posing Like a Sorority Girl

If we're talking about all the presidents that were allegedly gay. I think Obama's been fully proven gay, though. For sure. Yeah. He wrote about his androgynous mind and a letter to his girlfriend. I make love to men daily, but in the imagination. Honest Abe, no. There's this guy, Billy Green, who shared Lincoln's bed back in the 1830s.

Back of the day, you like, and I shared a room with my best friend. That makes you gay. George W. No. I can see this guy being gay. Why? Look how it like sad he is. Let's say your kid dies, right?

You're in dire straits. Your wife's a fucking bitch. What do you do? You got to suck. You can go so crazy that you just lose your mind and become gay. You guys know James Buchanan. He's the only U.S. president to never marry. Never married, no kids.

That's double extra gay. I mean, also, what's triple extra gay? John F. Kennedy. No way. Is that a joke? LBJ. Dude, he loved to show it's cocked to everyone.

Alexander Hamilton. Franklin Pierce. Bill Clinton. I did to chat GBT, and I said, just name me 12 gay podcasters. And it was just your name 12 times. That's not true.

What's up, everybody? Welcome back to Camp. Yes, this is tent talks. This is where I explained the most interesting, controversial, and fascinating stories from around the world to the internet to my dumbest friends.

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Dumbest trends? I thought you bring on smart people like CIA guys. Yes, exactly. That's a different segment. Right. That's a different... No, no, no, no. What's the section called where it's smart people?

No, that's smart camp. Smart camp? So we're at dumbass camp? Yeah, this is dumbass camp. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. Well, I know, I did actually a lot of my own research. I did a lot of my own research for this episode, but we'll get into it later.

Chris was pushing this bit for the last hour and a half. It's a good bit. It's a good, but just you have to tell them. It bom now, it bombed then. Let the record show. You just have to tell them they have to be queued in on some context. It's been killing the entire time. Yeah, it's been crushing.

Dude, Christos was like, I have to start the show. Like, I'm laughing too hard. Stop doing the bit. Yeah, he was. He's Greek. He doesn't understand. The producer was catching his breath and wiping tears from his eyes. He was wiping tears from his eyes.

And he doesn't speak a word of English. Is that true, Christos? I don't know. You son of that. That's, my fuck. You're going back on the bow. We're saying you a fucking meconos immediately. This bit transcended language.

That's what people are saying. Dude, telepathically? Yeah. Have you been watching telepathy tapes that autistic kids have telepathy? Autistic children have telepathy? Yeah. What are they talking to each other? And they're like, Twains.

Just the word trains goes to the twins going, twins going south. Chew? Chew. Chew. Whoa. It's like, whoa, blocks. But that's not the topic for today, okay, despite that being fascinating. It's not Roblox.

It's not Roblox. It's not Roblox. The dark history of Roblox. The dark history of Roblox. Dude, have you been getting live leak recreations in Roblox? No. Yeah. What is it?

It's literally it'll just, you know what LiveLeak was? It'd be like ISIS beheading videos. They figured out a way around it, like, posted on Instagram, and it'll just be like, here's a gang shooting, like that was filmed, recreated in Roblox. Can we pull this up, Christos? Yeah, Roblox LiveLeak, please. Chris goes. Dude, we got to have a guy to look up stuff.

Yeah, we need a guy. Show me Live League Roblox, please. Yeah, yeah. Oh, this should be illegal? It should be illegal, yeah. All right. So. Hell, yeah.

All right. Pause this. This is fucking. We got a new topic. I can't believe you didn't know Roblox lively, dude. The dark history of Roblox. The dark history of Roblox could be a real video essay. Yeah, that would be great.

That's sick as hell. It's so dope, dude. I mean, it's horrible. I mean, it's like, it's the worst thing I've ever seen. Like, you Valdei Roblox? Yeah, 100%. All of them. It'll be like, yeah, the last fucking horrible, horrible shooting that occurred.

It's like, oh, I can go watching Roblox. You have like Roblox, mangione. Yeah. Is that better, I feel? In a way, like, kids shouldn't be exposed. these terrible things, you know, but maybe they're still aware of what's going on in the world.

I think this is good. I think they should have Roblox point. Yeah. All ages. All ages, dude. I'm sure they do. Can you look that? Can you look at?

I mean, can you Roblox rule 34? When I was, when I was 14, 15, I was jerking into live real people. Yeah, exactly. And that's not good for a kid's brain. Yeah, pull up. Yeah, X videos. Yeah, pull that up real quick.

I mean, it's going to be, oh. Let's go. She's beautiful. Yeah, click on that one. His average. Whoa. Fucking my best friend in Roblox. Oh.

S.F. Girl. What is S-F? I don't think this is Roblox. Ooh, this is gross. Okay, well, it's his ride's average car. Dude, how much does Mark hate these naked chicks? Dude, this, though. Yeah, he's more of a guy.

Did she have, like, tentacles? Look at her vagina. It's like tentacles. This has got to be the first time Christosis had to pull up . It's not. Little Pete had a search and some crazy stuff. Little Pete. Oh, shout's out a little Pete.

Yeah, a little Pete. was making the... We were pulling up some arm pitch. I love you. You were like, yeah, we had a Catholic historian in here. Did you show him, Roblo? You got to show him. If he ever comes on again, go, I found this.

I don't know if this is in the Bible. After the end of a three hour combo. You did a lot of stuff to me. Yeah, two hours, 45 minutes in. And you go, okay, you explained a lot of things that were fascinating. I had no clue about any of them. I'm going to show you something that I know you haven't seen before. And it goes a little something like this.

Show me Roblox LiveLake. No, today we're not talking about Roblox. talking about all the presidents that were allegedly gay. Great topic. Good topic. We're also, okay, all right, some people are already tuning off. Some people are pissed about this. I already know.

Why? Because I was doing some research on it, and I clicked on a video. Someone had already done a video about all the presents that were gay. And I was like, oh, sick. And I was watching, and I was like, dude, this guy did a bunch of great research. And then I read the comments and they were not happy. Really? All the comments were like, this is lib propaganda.

Oh, that makes sense. That makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think. in the interest of being nonpartisan, okay, and appealing to Nazis. Yeah.

I think, I think we need to do debunkin. I heard Adolf Hitler might have been gay. Allegedly? Yeah. Which it seems like... We should do top ten rabbis that were gay. I think that'd be a good way to win the audience is hard of. Yeah, yeah, we can bring back in.

What are you saying? Top ten rabbis that were gay. Top ten landlords that were gay. Yes, yes. Exactly. Just kind of throwing it out there, some ideas. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

We can just include all of them. We'll start with the presidents, but not only are we going to be going through some of their, the rumors of why people think that they may have been gay or even just confirmed bachelors, but also just, you know, having a scrupulous eye and saying, is this just lib propaganda?

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to get a degree. A degree in what? In fucking, bitchies and getting money. I had to, for my English degree, I had to take like a women's lit class. Can we get cuck in the chat, please? Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, we need a cuck in the chat. We all see a fuck in the chat. You should have seen me in there. You should have seen me in there. You should have seen me in there. I was like, yo, this is like not actually not chill. Oh, really? You were speaking out? I was speaking out.

I kind of regret it. I might have been a little bit too. I should have just silently been like, yeah, bullshit. Like, it just gone on with my life, but I had to be like, I'm going to start a big debate in the class. No, did you actually? Yeah. Because there was these letters between women. And then the whole, there was like a chapter in the class was like these letters between women who were friends in like the 1700s.

And they like wrote poems for each other. And the whole thing was like, were they gay? I was like, a party was like, we're in college. We're in a college classroom right now We're like, We're like, we're like, good, thanks. So I took that energy into the debates And let me tell you.

You crushed it. I was lambasted. We did this bit on the podcast. He said, like, I took a women's literature class. I was like, yeah, it's just the SkyMail magazine. The SkyMall magazine. It is what it is. Yeah.

It's like, oh, useless shit. I don't win to my house. It's called a cookbook. Yeah. That's what I said. Yeah. And everyone high-fied me and I did a slam dunk. Yeah, that sounds sick as hell.

Yeah, sorry, go ahead. We got a couple of good ones, all right? Okay, hit me. So I guess we could start most recently. No. Barrio. Oh, yes, for sure. Wait, how recent were we going to, what'd you think?

I swear if you were going to go to a little two reason, I was going to be pissed. Hey, man. Watch it. What, you think, T-Dogs? There's no way T-Dog. No way T-Dog's gay. No. He's like the least gay.

He might be the least gay president of all time. Say what you will about him. economically, politically, you can disagree, but you can't go the man's gay. He's the least gay president. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. No, he does, I will say all the people around him,

like when we talked to him on Flagrant, all of his whole staff, everyone was so beautiful. All the women were tens. Yeah. All the guys, 11s. They were hotter. Oh, really? The guys were hot guys.

So handsome. Look this beautiful man. Look at him. He's a beautiful man. Look at him. He just loves beautiful people around him. Dude, that's gay. He calls a guy beautiful.

He says beautiful a lot. Yeah, it's beautiful. Beautiful. You guys, look at my beautiful man. During the pandemic, he and Cuomo had a huge beef, and then they made up for the sake of the country. Hell yeah. And the way he, like, started showing respect for him in his press conference, he's going, and he's a handsome man.

People say how handsome he, I can't believe how handsome he is. Women love him, men love him, his good looking guy. He was accused. Yeah. Cuomo? Yeah, it's kind of an Aziz level accuracy. As much I hate the man. I'm a fucking card.

Kamo hater. Worst Paizan of all time. No. Yeah, dude. I'm the Italian. Why do we do hit him? Like, he's just got, he's got fat nips. That's basically all I know.

And like there's a bridge name ever for his dad. Who's got fat nips? Cuomo. Oh, Cuomo, yeah, he's got fat nips. I would argue the nips are the only thing I like about him. Yeah, yeah. Nips are my favorite part. Yeah, he's got some serious little peepers.

He has some series. Some sausage. So scee. So, not Donny tea, but Barry L. Some people have suggested that, Barack Obama Well he killed his chef

Allegedly He killed his gay lover chef Allegedly killed his gay lover chef And Big Mike Allegedly Allegedly Big Mike had his kill Because if there's one cock

In this house It's mine Yeah Big Mike Fuck chef to death Is that what happens That's how we drowned That's true

Yeah They're a paddleboard Oh I haven't had Research that That's also Big Mike Dick of the chef down First of all

You're paddleboarding Pause Yeah Yeah yeah yeah That's as the kids say Yeah I'm about to go paddle boarding

Yeah Is that what you call it Diddy or no Diddy Yeah I'm going to paddleboard No Diddy So I have a I have a thing about Barrio

I You made love to him No Is this Tucker Are we on Tucker? Ew Just smoke crack and suck off Barry O

Wouldn't shock me So it shows Chicago a few years ago No I know someone who knows some kind of high up political people in Chicago, like the donor class in, you know, Illinois politics and whatnot. And they were saying it was a known thing in Chicago that he was gay for a long time before he was president. Yeah. That it was like common knowledge.

He's kind of on the under. Like, um, we know people that are not out of the closet gay public figures, I would say, right? Yeah. We know some public figure. Exhibit A. Really? Because let me pull up. Oh yeah, wait, no, actually I did, I forgot to mention this earlier. I forgot to mention this earlier. What is it? But I did a little preliminary research for the, because I knew the topic coming in, so I just looked up, I looked up on chat, I did a chat, GBT, and I said, just name me 12 gay podcasters, and it was just your name 12 times.

That's not true. Yeah. Isn't that weird? You actually double-checked it on Grock. I double-checked with Grock, and they were like, yeah, that checks out. Me at 12 times. Yeah, and then I asked, like, just name anybody else, and they're like, we, it says, sorry, It just did that dot, dot, dot, dot, over and over.

What's gay about me? What is gay about me? How am I gay? You have sex with men? I'll say it again. What is gay about it? The question remains. What is gay about me?

Is it gay to make love to a man? Dude, I was talking to a guy the other day. Yeah, I bet you were. Chris, don't you dare laugh. You don't speak English. He doesn't speak a little English. He's got that one. It's all timing.

That joke, yeah, that crossed the language barrier. Yeah, that translated to Greek instantly in his mind. I was talking to a guy on stage platonically, okay, who happened to be gay. Okay. And I was talking about being with my wife, and that's really the only woman I've ever been with. And he was like, I fuck more women than you. Yeah. I was like, wow, that's crazy.

Yeah, that's definitely true. That is kind of scary. I am one woman. I'm gay. But same amount of men? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Did you kind of like emphasize one of the words in the bit where you're like, She's the only woman. She's the only broad. Yeah, if you're picking up what I'm laying down. Yeah. But yeah, but DeBario, apparently it was, like, well known in the Chicago political scene, the Illinois political kind of scene, don't or whatever, that he was, you know, gay. Well, I think he's bisexual.

Yeah, probably. I think he's bisexual. I mean, the letters. Yeah, the letters is a little tricky. I make love to men in my mind every day. Yeah, he had a little... Sounds like my diary. Yeah.

He had a little Adidas. going on. Yeah. You know Redidas? Yeah. Yeah. I dream about sucking cock.

Yeah. He wrote about his androgynous mind in a letter to his girlfriend in regards to homosexuality. I must say that I believe this is an attempt to remove oneself from the present, a refusal

perhaps to perpetuate the endless farce of earthly life. You see, I make love to men daily, but in the imagination. What the fuck is he saying? It was an interesting spin on it. Wait, wait, so, wait. The Fars, with the endless farce that is life.

Yeah, of earthly life. The endless farce of Earth. Yeah. Kind of like a nihilistic thing. Like, no this matters. Yeah, yeah. You just read The Stranger and he's like, I'm gay. Yeah.

He wants to do the stranger. He wants to do it with a stranger. Yeah. It's an actual stranger. Yeah. Also, writing a letter to your girlfriend. Gay. Gay.

Right? So just that alone. No, I lived, me and my girlfriend were a long distance for a year and a half. Didn't write her a single letter. Yeah. Not a single letter. You wrote me a letter. I did write you a letter before.

Interesting. Paul. Paul. No, I left a thank you know for letting me stay in your house. Thank you for the cop. Thank you for the dick, dude. Yeah. Did you draw off?

Was that what you said? No, that was in your letter. Is that what you said? What did you do in my apartment while you were alone for three days? Did you ask me if I gooon and edged? Did you edge in my bed? I didn't edge or goon. You didn't, be honest.

Because I can check the Wi-Fi. Did you goon in my apartment? I didn't edge a gun. You know what I did do? I got pretty close to blackout drum. And then came back into your apartment and hung out with your cat and ate cheesecake and watched Lord of the Rings return of the king until about 4.30 in the morning. Straight as hell. And I was like, dude, like, there wasn't ACDC playing, but like in my mind's eye, in my mind's ears, it was like, okay.

It was so much fun. Yeah, and the cat tried to try to cop your cheese. Yeah, the cat fully made love to my cheesecake when I stood up for a minute. Yeah, that happens. Like the way, like, to the point where I was like, I cannot ingest this anymore. If a cat had a couple of licks on something, I can live with that. Dude, the cat was like, you ought to cock. It was like, ugh, no, no, no, no, I don't do that.

No, no, I don't do that. I don't know if you want to look at the list again. That list is a farce of earthly life. This is also, this is a perfect encapsulation of who Christoph is. Like, most guys, if they had the ACDC playing in their head, it's like they're flying down the highway on their motorcycle, their leather jacket. Christop's eating cheesecake with a cat on his chest. Yeah.

And watching Lord of the Rings. Yeah, yeah. The fucking boys I'm with the boys In Brooklyn Petting a cat Eating a cheese I was like

I'm sucking in black My name's ma I'm gay Licking cop and sucking every day Yeah The lyrics dude Break my bag But yeah

He wrote this letter Apparently there was other things This guy What is his name? Yeah the Tucker guy David Garrow claimed The 44th president Quote repeatedly fantasized

By making love to men This guy is a Pulitzer Prize Winning historian Oh, not the crackhead. No, there was another guy that went on Tucker that did say that he bought crack and sucked off. But this guy's a writer? This guy's a writer. And he said, yeah, that is that he was having gay fantasies.

Which, does that make you gay? He said that he was having a gay fan. So he was a historian. So he analyzed the letters and he's like, yeah, he's gay. Yeah. We meet America's top minds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, this guy, Garrow, a Pulitzer Prize winning historian,

was the author of 2017 biography Rising Star, the making of Barack Obama. And he said he repeated. fantasized by making love to men. Which if fantasizing by making love to men makes you gay, what thoughts are crimes now? Yeah. Like, what, 1984 call. Yeah, right? Where does the buck stop?

Yeah. It's interesting. Yeah, it's fascinating. They had like a literary analysis of his gayness. I think that if you feel compelled to put it into words and send it to a friend that you're probably gay. It's one thing, I guess he just had the thoughts, but he needed to get them out. Yeah, yeah.

I think these feel like burning thoughts. Dude, how is Obama's brother? feel about all this? Dude, Obama's brother is cracked. Yeah. Gary Obama? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

It's an insane. What's his name? Gary. Is it Gary and Barry Obama? I'm kidding. I don't know his name either, but he has like a Kenyan brother. He's like fucking crazy online. I thought it would be funny if he was like Frank Obama.

Yeah, it's an insane that he has the same last name because we just know Obama. Like, yeah, that's Obama. But he has a brother that's apparently been spouting off. Yeah, he's been cooking. It's his Farrakon looking motherfucking out of this stuff. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Obago Malik Obama?

Yeah, and then everyone's like, how would you ever think he wasn't born in this country? And you're like, what's his brother's name, Abagon Malik? That would you ever think that? Yeah. I'm not a birther. Bro, this guy looks like an Uber driver who listens to Christian radio. It's like in Congolese Christian radio. The most racist shit you'll ever hear in your whole life is if this guy picks you up in an Uber.

Like a Nigerian Uber driver? Is that guy, have you seen DeHashon? They are eating the dog. They eat the dog. They go off. Do you on gay people? The black people. Everyone.

If you got that hat, you're not a fan. No. And that's probably what he hates his fucking gay brother. Yeah. He goes, Barry Obama is a gay guy. My brother sucks, Scott. Okay, we drop you off here. He is what we call in my country a food's backup.

Five stars. Have you seen they suck the poo? They eat the poo? Have you seen they eat the poo? Why are you gay? Well, Malik definitely asked Barry if he's eating the poop. Yeah, he asks him, they suck the poop, they eat the poop. He says in a letter in 1982, I have thought about and considered gayness, but ultimately he chose heterosexuality.

He said he chose it? That's according to the line dug up by David Garrow in his 2017. Wait, wait, wait. So Obama is quoted. That's a real quote from Obama? According to my friend Zach's research, yeah. Well, interesting. You know, I never thought about the fact that closeted gay guys.

think that homosexuality is a choice because they're convincing themselves they just chose not to go that way. Right. Interesting. Yeah. I feel like the more into being gay as a choice you are, you're either like

actively repressing and going to like, what's it called where you convert? Like gay conversion therapy? Gay conversion therapy. Yeah, yeah. Or you're just like a really hate gay people. There's kind of no real... Do you think if you're a gay guy

and you're choosing to be straight? Yeah. Does it suck to bang ladies? Like are you hating it when you're doing it? I mean, how do you feel about it? Boom! Big boom! Big boom!

Big boom! Big boom! Rosa Parks, you're getting a big boom! Have you seen that one? Yeah. Yeah. That was my favorite one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Love it.

Yeah, all-time Costco guys. But no, that's a good question. Like, they hate heterosexual sex. Like, are you like, are you banging a lady in like, this is gross, dude? I mean, I think you can kind of get there. Okay. If you had to or else you could. You just close your eyes and think it's a man's ass.

Yeah, you just do some Adidas and you just got a... Yeah. Yeah. I wonder if it's that or like part of me thinks like it's just like physical. Like it feels good. It's still your dick and a vagina. Like it still feels good. So if you can just disassociate enough, you could probably let one loose.

That's what I imagine. I mean, some of these guys have kids. There's been a long history of closeted gays. Yeah. Apparently running our country, right? So Barry O. So Dave Garrow's book apparently is pretty controversial, as you. can imagine. People have disputed this. Okay, so I'm not, I'm not sitting here.

Number one biggest critic is just Obama? No. You got to have those rips. One star on good reads. One star I'm yelled from Barry Obama. I'm not gay. This book sucks. But yeah, so apparently there's also another rumor tied to his former body man, Reggie Love. Well, if you got a body man. He worked as his personal aide from 2007, 2011. He was a college basketball star turned shadow handle. Star turns shadow handling schedules, meals, and does like pick up games and shit. And there's apparently he claims that he was the real deal behind Michelle. So this is what people are posting on X. Apparently he's like, he was banging him also. So yeah, love has since gone private sector and the story stays a whisper.

Damn. What do you mean the real deal behind Michelle? This is what people on X are like this was, this is what they said. This is just like a cryptic quote Is that, yeah, that he was the one that has, has said with Barry. Interesting, okay. Do you think Barry's getting his back blown out

Or is he of top? No, he's topping, for sure. I think he's bottoming, dude. Powerful guy, you want to, you want to release. Stand by, 10 toes down on that opinion. Can we get a pause? Can we get a pause? Can we get a AO in the chat?

A.O. in the chat, dude, ten toes down on that opinion. Apparently. You're powerful man. You want to get fucking. railed out by a dude. Again, again, there's,

there's, there's a controversy because apparently people say in Chicago days he was a regular at bathhouses. They called him Bathhouse Barry.

Oh, yes. This is what I heard from someone in the mouth. And that's where you just go to tug guys. I heard. And,

yeah, they say this, he was a, they called him a fixture in the, in the down low scene, a term for men secretly sleeping with men.

No records, photos are credible insider support this is all hearsay. Yeah, nice. And yeah, apparently... A fixture. Yeah. So he's got all sorts of stuff in the DL scene.

He's a fixture. You ever see that episode of Law & Order SVU where they find a DL scene of black guys, the one guy's like, I date women, I have sex with men. I'm not gay. And then iced tea has to go, I tell you something, brother, that means you gay. It's a classic scene. I've never seen this. Let me tell you something, brother.

I'm not gay. I date women and have sex with men. Wait, what is this, Christos? Is Obama gay? Chrisis, what is the meaning of this? Yeah, I mean, that's a power pose. That's Captain Morgan. These are, yeah.

Well, they, you know, if you can choose to be gay, you can choose to be alpha too. That's what I'm saying. So then there's Larry Sinclair, the guy who popped up in 2018, that claimed he had a drug-fueled hookup with Obama in 1999. Who's the guy in Miami? black, he ran for governor. Rick Ross. He ran for governor, a black guy got caught with a gay hooker, like, surrounded in meth.

He died or something, right? Did he die? Now, you're thinking of Rob Ford. No, no, no, no, no, no, it's an African American gentleman. He was in Miami, like, smoke, like. Andrew Gillum. Gillum. Yeah, male escorts.

Ooh, Gillum. Yeah, apparently, I don't know all the details on this one. Tons of meth. Yeah, but apparently, I think the guy died. Is Andrew Gillum dead? No, no, Andrew Gillum is alive and well. But the guy who was banging out died? Yeah, he didn't return a call from People magazine, so I don't know if people have checked on him since.

Oh. But, yeah, he was found with an escort and cried every day. According to this article from Pink News. Gillum, Pink News. Yeah, Democrat Andrew Gilham. Big boom. We could have five big boobs. Man, that was close.

Florida. Yeah, he had this gay escort overdosed on meth. Can you imagine if the gay meth guy was in charge instead of disqual. Santos. It looked a lot different during the pandemic. I'll tell you that right now. Guys, we need to stay home and look out the blinds. Yeah.

We need to stay home and twink. Yeah, I think it'd be sick. You can have one guy over a day. That's it. Just sit on the porch. Just sit on the porch. Just feel it. Just fucking sweep the streets.

We need to clean up the streets. Let's off of these rumors and scandalous evidence. Oh, yeah, he's fucking... I think he's gay. Are we going full gay, bye? I think he's a bisexual man. Okay. I think he's some kind of like queer label,

maybe not anything specific. I mean, his wife is a trans woman. Okay. That's confirmed. Alleged. That's confirmed. Bridget McRone. There's maybe a case for that one.

Brigitte Macron. Have you seen this? I thought she was just old. No, no, no. Oh, she is. But Candice is doing a slam piece on her. Really? Yeah, yeah.

She's been doing a number on. Mrs. Emmanuel Macron. Yeah, yeah. Speaking of slam piece. Yeah. How beautiful is Candace? Can we get a thumbs up in the chat for Candace Owen. Perfect cheekbones.

She is so hot. It's like distracted. I don't even care. she's saying. Yeah, yeah. She's been going off saying that Bridget McCrone is actually Emmanuel McCrone's father. Whoa!

That is, uh, cosplaying as a woman and cosplaying as his wife in order to like, you know, control things. She's an absolute piece. Yeah, she's a piece.

Uh, can you look up Bridget McCrone and she would, see what this fucking broad looks like. Yeah. She's like, I love it. I have a penis. That's a good one.

That's a good one. That's right. I have a big penis. She doesn't look that manly. No, she doesn't really. Right. She just looks like an older.

kind of plastic woman. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So maybe she's just, I guess she was like 40 while McCrone was like 17 or something. Yeah, it's a big age gap. Maybe just a Pita. That's what I don't.

I don't fuck with that. What pedophiles? If you asked me. I don't fuck with that pet peevelling. You show me a picture of this woman and you said, what does she do? I'd be like, she's got fake tits. She lives in Dallas. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, she's like an oil baron's wife. Right. She's like, her head's off on the ridge. Yeah, go horns. Yeah. Hook them. But I'm an elderly gay man. I'm actually an elderly gay man.

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Honest Abe. I've heard this, yeah, I've heard this too. I did hear this too and I don't like it. He had a beard. His wife was a beard who was just, maybe she was just schizophrenic. They were both ugliest sin. That's the thing.

They say, oh, his wife was so ugly. And it's like, he was not good looking. Can we get a, can we get a pick of a old honest Abe? What's Abe's wife's name? I don't know, Bessie. I don't fucking know. Oh, oh, Todd, Mary Todd. Mary Todd.

Mary, Todd Lincoln. Yeah. The ad of the Mary late. back in the day you didn't get to choose a new name you just had to have two names yeah yeah like okay Todd Lincoln

very Todd Lincoln yeah I mean that's a tough look no she was uglier than Kirkland she looks like John Belushi that's a soul man right yeah a soul man

no she was also like known to like I love how they describe old crazy women like back in the day yeah it's the best they're like she had flights of hysteria. Yeah, well, do you know the term hysteria?

The moon. Comes from the hysterectomy. Oh, that's right, yeah, yeah. But you would do a hysterectomy. What's the moon? I don't think of a lunatic. That's what I'm thinking of. Yeah, type shit though.

Yeah, but that's the moon. That's your period. That's your blood. That's what I'm saying, but you gotta be thinking. It all line up. So when a Squarius is in the sky and you'll bleed, that's your shit, man.

You gotta get the alarm into your mind. Yeah, exactly. Wait, so she had like, probably like schizophrenia or something, right? Or bipolar. Something. There's been a lot of theories. But I was like,

you're like, first kid, like, fucking died. It was like, really sad. It's a whole thing. Her husband got murdered.

Like, it's, which actually, this stuff happened back then. Apparently, Lincoln's kid, just was like a little aside. His son was basically present

at three presidential assassinations. Whoa. Okay. Well, why were we not looking into this motherfucker? Right? A little sketchy. I think Robert Todd Lincoln was his name.

He was like a boy when his dad got shot and then brought to the White House and he was like, oh my God, my dad's dead. And then the next guy, McKinley, I think,

He was, like, working within politics, and then Garfield gets assassinated, and he's there and calls the doctor that actually kills him on the train platform. Oh, what did the doctor do to Garfield? He just stuck his fingers in the bullet holes. He was just laying with it. Yeah, let's get this shit out. Yeah, dude, I love old medicine. I love old medicine. William McKinley was murdered in the parking lot of my high school.

What? Before it was my high school. He was trying to buy weed from Luke. Drug deal gone wrong. A deal gone bad. It wasn't Buffalo. Was that the world's fair? Yeah.

Yeah. Pan American Expo, dude. That's exactly right. That's crazy. Yeah, he was, like, so, like, ostentatious. Like, he was like, I want to meet the people. I want to be around. Yeah.

And then got murdered by Colgosh, an old, uh, an old, like, anarchist. Nice. Took him down. Colgosh. What is that? Do you know? Cool name. Polish?

No, it's like Eastern European. Sounds like those pastries they have in Texas. Colacci. Yeah. But yeah, he just, he took him out, a little pistol under the, under the hand. Damn. But, but yeah, Robert Todd was out all of them. He got involved in politics, obviously.

And his life is actually very sad. He's like, people didn't, people didn't like Robert Todd. they liked Abe Lincoln's. Well, I mean, it sounds like he was a bummer. Well, that's just how he felt. He's a bit of a drag. Yeah, people get murked everywhere. My brother's dad.

My dad's dead. My mom's looking crazy. Shut up, Robert Todd. Stupid two-name bitch. People think Abe's gay, though, because there's this guy, Billy Green, who shared Lincoln's bed back in the 1830s when they were young and scraping by in New Salem, Illinois. Yeah, but, dude, I mean, I started reading, um, I started reading Benjamin Franklin's autobiography,

and they do some gay shit back in the, Back in the day, you like, and I shared a room with my best friend. Yes. Yeah. That makes you gay. That makes you gay. That makes you gay. Green later wrote his thighs were as perfect as any human beings could be.

That's a little sad. That makes you gay. Whoa. Praising Abe's build from those close quarters. He praised Abe's build. That's gay. That's weird. Abe definitely had Marfan syndrome.

He might have. He almost certainly had Marfan syndrome. It's where you're all tall and gangly. Yeah, yeah. It's like, there are more symptoms and. being just tall. Maybe I have Marfanson. You might, dude.

Yeah, I might have Marfanson. They caught it early. It's all the legs. People can't tell by looking at you right now. Yeah, I'm all legs. I'm so tall. All legs. It's got to be a problem.

I got tallitis, dude. Well, yeah, he had Marfan, which is, yeah, but it makes you, like, tend to be very tall. Yeah. Okay. So it makes you kind of tall and wiry. Like, you'll be like 6-8 and like 160. 60 pounds.

Like you'll be super light, super tall. I also comes with a bunch of other, like, health. Yeah, like your heart explodes. I don't know. It makes you die early, but thankfully. You're romantic. So we're getting a little closer with Abe Lincoln to gayness, because it started with he shares a bed with his buddy.

Not that gay. No. We've all done that. Maybe his friend was gay. We've all jerked off in a room with our friends when we're in middle school. Yeah, obviously. I actually never did that, but we did take turns going to the bathroom. We took turns going into my friend's computer room.

Shout up, Brian. We took turns going into his parents' computer room. to jerk off and then we would ask how was it it goes great which shift did you? Really good jerk off I got the second shift

That's not bad Yeah Tommy patience for sure That's a good question Like would you rather be First Like if there's five dudes We're all hanging out

Yeah We all gotta go Go up in the other room What order do you want to go in First Really? Probably I want to be third

I want to be able to You know I like yeah because like I want them to like sort out I don't know Maybe if they're looking at stuff When we're sharing stuff That was like a body.

You go through the history, you see what they, you know, ended up gooning to and you can like pick the best of. I think that's gay. I think sending your boy porn being like, dude, rub it out to this. That's where you're like 13. It's not, it's, that's not in your mind yet. You're just so excited by. You're so excited by putting your friend's magnificent thighs or whatever that you just fucking jerk it. Yeah, I can see that.

It wasn't gay. We all would watch porn and get bricked up. This is what happened. We all watched the same porn, got bricked up, went to the bathroom, did our biz. Wow. Just from Mem. Was it just from memory? Just like thinking about

Were you just so horny You're just rub it on the sink And you're like boom That's all you did Well really what it is At that age You just can't imagine a night Without jerking it

Yeah And we got in trouble Because someone Whoever was last to go Did not They landed on the seat Oh And his mommy found out

Mom found She's on the seat No way Yeah So what do you guys did She just yelled at us like kind of in passing. She just said, don't come on my furniture.

Literally, something like that. Yeah, I mean, that's so reasonable. And we're all like, ooh, we're all playing Call of Duty, we're having a land party. It's like, so badass Mount Duke Code Red. So far. Yeah, I mean, you kind of just got it would be like, sorry, Mom. Yeah, sorry, Mom.

We were all just gooning. Gigi's called a day, dude, just keep it pushing. Yeah. So it doesn't end there with Lincoln. There's this guy, Joshua Speed, Lincoln's best friend. Damn. And from 37 to 41. You can't have a friend named Josh Speed.

Dude. Dude, dude. He shared a bed above Speed Store in Springfield for four years when Speed got married in 1842. Lincoln wrote him, I'm not going without my trousers for nothing. No one's really sure what that means. But it seems, some people

indicate that. He called him that his nickname was my trousers? Is that always like he's calling him my trousers? I don't know. I'm not going without my trousers for nothing. I don't know what that could mean. I'm not going. It's a double negative. That sounds like he's saying if you want me to take my trousers off, you've got to pay up.

Oh. Like, I'm not going to take my trousers off for fuck nothing. Like if a guy accosted me, it was like, dude, Luke, take your trousers off. I'd be like, I'm not going on my trousers for nothing. You're going to have to. Yeah, you're married. You're married.

You can't even be my little boo thing anymore. Show me the money if I'm going to take these trousers off. Yeah. There's another one, Elmer Ellsworth and David Derrickson, two soldiers close to Lincoln during the Civil War. Ellsworth, a young colonial Abe called the greatest little man I ever met in 1861. This is a nice thing to say about a guy. That's just a nice thing to say.

People said that about me before. Yeah. I said that out of Luke all the time. The greatest little man I've ever met. Despite his Marfan syndrome. Yeah, he's fighting off Marfan's right now. He's a survivor towering over you guys by Marfan's in. And then Derrickson, his bodyguard, stepped in later.

A soldier's wife, Virginia Fox, gossiped in 1862 that Derrickson sleeps with him when Mary was away. Getting gay here again. The thing is like Mary Todd is such like a battle axe. Yeah. You know what I mean? I think the crux or like where all this, the genesis of all of this is, is, he has a shitty ugly wife

so you're like he's gotta be gay yeah like how does he love this like ugly crazy bit president of the world for like yeah dude most powerful man in on earth you know starts a civil war got killed in the theater got killed at theater freed the slaves you know the sisters wrong eyes of John you know all the sisters are trying to hop on that

yeah bro he used to Travis Kelsey of his time so it seems like that's all the all the Abe stuff just a lot of bed sharing But it was also a different time. Yeah, everyone was sharing beds, bro. Like, no one had any fucking money. He was, like, born in a mud hut in fucking Kentucky or wherever, or in Illinois.

I don't remember. I'm going straight. I think he's straight. I think he might be... Dude, straight until proven gay. Yeah. Yeah, I think we're straight until proven gay. I think Obama's been fully proven gay, though.

For sure. Yeah. All right. How about George W. No. Washington. Cheerleader? George Washington.

We'll get to that, though. Wait, no, that's George. That's regular George. Yeah. That's George Dub. This is Washington. Oh, no, I'm thinking of age. Again, there's theories that kind of float around, okay?

So here's the thing. Washington and Martha didn't have kids together. Yeah, that's weird. Even though she had two from her first marriage. Well, he was probably shooting blanks. Perhaps. For a leader of his time, that's unusual. Most big shots had heirs to carry their name.

Some point to that gap and wonder if maybe he wasn't into women at all. No little Washington's running around Mount Vernon. Additionally, Alexander Hamilton and Marquez, Marquise de Lafayette, who I've seen in Hamilton. They were close to Washington during the war and they sparked speculation. Hamilton, his aide,

and Washington wrote in 1779, I have a high opinion of your merits showing trust Lafayette, a young ally, admired him deeply, and he says, my heart feels a tender affection for you. Yeah, but pros just talked like that back then, dude.

Like, there's lots of things like... That's like saying we locked in, twin. Yeah, yeah, they said we locked in twin. We twizzy for real. That's basically all that is. It's just like, yeah. And there was also, like, the regal thing can be gay. You know what I mean?

The way, like, Lordly types talk about it. It is kind of gay to talk like that for it. It is kind of gay. Like, they have a powdered wig on and, like, blush. And they're like, you know, I hold you. Yeah, they're wearing cliquity high heels and they're like, have a cape on. I mean, Liberacee, jacked her swag. And then they're like, I hold you in such high regard that I pity the day that you leave my count,

that your countenance is not in my gaze. and you're like, yeah, yeah, pause. Yeah, yeah. Apparently, Washington wrote a note to Hamilton that was basically saying that, hey, you're being a little too familiar. You're sending me too much love and affection. He says, in a letter from 1781,

you treat me with too much familiarity, setting boundaries. And then Martha in 7075... That's just saying, you don't know me like that. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, like, yeah, like, yeah, we're not... Yeah, we're not tight like that. Black people have said that before you acted too familiar.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're not too familiar. Yeah, you got to stand your toes. Yeah. And Martha wrote in 7075, my dear general as well, and as happy as can be to be away from me. People look into this and they say, why is he happy to be away from your wife?

Every straight guy's happy to be away from their chair. Yeah, this is not. That's the straightest thing I've ever heard. That's a point into the straight category. Yeah, what are you talking about? He's out with the boys. He doesn't want to be with his wife. He's like, dude, I love being around my girlfriend all the time.

Yeah, that would be. See, that's where I go, Lincoln might be a little suss because he's like, bro, you're hanging out with this brood all with them? Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, how many, like, gay dudes have, like, a crazy female friend? that they're like tight. Yeah, that it's like totally like they're inseparable. Yeah.

You know what I mean? So Washington, what do we say? Not gay. Not gay. He had slave teeth. I do, that's the only, I will say, I was thinking about that. The good point to be made, wooden teeth did the first check get knocked out by dude's cocks. Gummy George.

Yeah. Was the cherry tree really just a metaphor? Yeah. You want wood in your mouth? Sort of get. He chopped down the chair. Yeah, he can't tell a lie. Cherry, what he calls it, Native American guy's cock.

But you suck on my cherry. You did have slave teeth. He had slave teeth, yeah, they weren't. There's the wooden teeth thing, which is a myth that was, they just had slave teeth. Which I want to know, just out of a cure. They were not grills. You fucking racist. What is wrong with you?

I was just curious. Dude, if I was going to take body parts of my slaves, I'm giving myself Tommy John surgery. Give me the ligaments, dude. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Fast Twitch. It's definitely the big fucking meat hogs. They're rocking around.

Dude, I want to be half. I want a fucking piece. We're describing a Jordan Peel movie. It's called Meathogs. I'm giving myself... It's called The Hell. You're going Meathog. I'm going ACL, MCL, PCL.

Give me the knee ligaments, dude. I want to be on dunk. Oh, don't say that word. I'm getting the extra bones, so I'm faster. I'm getting fucking... I'm getting new Achilles. Did they have an extra bone? I've heard that.

That's a racist myth that black people have extra bones in their body. And that's why they're so fast? That's where they're so fast. There's also that guy in the 70s or 80s, I think it was a basketball announcer who like said this. Or no, you know what he said? He said that it was selective reading from slavery. That's why all the black guys play in the NBA

and white guys don't. That's the most insane theory. I remember hearing that and I was like, there's no way. And then I Google that. And I was like, yeah, there's still no way. I actually did think that for a while, but now when you see Luca, Cooper DeGine, etc., I was being racist.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. These poverty makes you sick at sports. I also think basketball is like the easiest, like cheapest sport. That's why like they would dominate baseball too. They would dominate hockey, but these are expensive sports that require equipment. Well, now, now black dudes are chopping up a snowboarding. Oh, that guy's awesome. What's his name?

Zed Pell? Yeah, Zed Powell's unreal. Dude, he's doing shit like, I love, dude, they just, Black dude comes in does some shit you've never actually never seen before. Literally putting the sport like just changing it. Yeah, he's awesome. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, you just need enough time, and then black dudes will take it over, and then just make it sick as hell.

There'll just be one who's, like, nasty at it, and they're like, I guess we can do that now. Yeah, I guess we just shred that. Yeah, yeah, I guess we're pool players. All right, Franklin Pierce. I don't know a thing about Franklin Pierce. Some people suspect that he sort of, you know, drowned his sorrows in Nathaniel Hawthorne's arms after losing everything. But other people think there's just a story that people are looking into it. Do we know?

Nathaniel Hawthorne, is that a... Who's he? That sounds familiar. Nathaniel Hawthorne. Let's get a quick Google story. And I want to know what Pierce's lost. This is, I'm interested. He's a novelist.

He wrote the Scarlet Letter. Oh, okay, yeah. I knew I had heard of him. Yeah, and he also wrote Young Goodman Brown. A couple other books. Young Goodman Brown. He doesn't find shit funny, dude.

Yeah. He'll always lookin' mother-in'nuff. Never lasts. His mustache is sad. Yeah, he's got a frowning mustache. But yeah, so this was, some people have speculated that they had some type of secret romance,

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You couldn't do You just had to do Adidas You couldn't get dogged out You had to like Make it about your trousers Or something weird It makes no sense You had to live above

A guy's fucking store Yeah also I just Search that trousers line Couldn't even find it on Google So Maybe it's made up It might just be just Grock being like

These guys are all gay Yeah We gotta double check that But Pierce and Hawthorne They go way back To Bowdoin College in 1820 They're buddies And Hawthorne

Step up big time When Pierce ran for president 1852 He wrote Pierce's campaign biography gushing he has won my heart by the charm of his manner sounding starstruck and then their friendship last decades and it's the foundation for why some wonder that there was some type of some type of deeper connection of gay shit no this sounds like another good friendship yeah it sounds like the boys so pierce was a wreck after his 11 year old son had died in a train crash okay

right before he took office he wrote to a friend how i shall be able to summon strength for my duty i do not know showing how broken he was some say he leaned on hawthorne during this mess Dude, I heard his wife was a motherfucker about that. I'm remembering this. Really? I think Pierce's wife was mean as hell to him about. She blamed him. She, like, blamed him like, we should have never been on that train.

Oh, wow. Yeah. So, yeah, his wife, Jane shut herself away in grief and basically just, like, kind of blamed him. Yes. And that's where... And then he fell right into the arms of old mustache Nathaniel. Yeah, exactly. Seen it a thousand times.

Exactly. Kid dies in a train crash? seen it a thousand times Yeah It's almost a stereotype If one of my friends Kids died God forbid

Yeah God forbid Died in a train Accident I'd go Okay You're gay All right

Some kind of You're gonna do some kind of queer shit I get it Yeah But just know it's a face So Pierce had Jane And three kids Before the awful accident

Hawthor admired him And afterwards Pierce made him The Consul to Liverpool in 1853 and he says, I owe him much gratitude for his kindness. And some people say, look, that's not a love note.

No, that's not a love note. Pierce's life was a spiral of booze and despair after his son's death. But nothing so far points to this romantic bond. And their bond was real, but not that kind, okay? You know what I think did happen? This is just, this is all speculation.

But let's say your kid dies, right? Mm-hmm. Your wife's is shut in, your drink, your booze in heavy. your boy's there your boy's always there for you Nathaniel Hawthorne who might be a bit

on the soft side he's a writer he wrote the scarlet letter isn't that about like a cheating woman and you know an adulterous woman an adulterer gets the a adulter gets the A you know so this guy has empathy for women

yeah so it's awesome pause he's writing books like in their favor early female feminist activity pause A fucking yo. Yeah. Now you're, but you're in Dyer Straits.

Your kid's dead. Your wife's a fucking bitch. Yeah. What do you do? You got to suck. I don't know. I don't know. You're sort of rocking a hard guy. And you're blacked out. Yeah.

You're blacked out at your boy's house who's a little light in the loafers. What happens? You wake up. Oh, fuck, Nathaniel's in my ass on my ass. Yeah. Yeah. Nathaniel tore my shit open. That's not his fault. It's not even his. It's just more like a low. Yeah, yeah. And maybe you got sober after.

You're like, I thought I was going to get drunk, come over here, he's going to bake me a nice keesh. Yeah. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, next thing I know, he's cucks in my mouth. Next thing I fucking know, dude. It's like, you ever watch the lighthouse? No, what is that?

Great movie. Great movie. William Defoe, Robert Pattinson. Yeah, so they go crazy in a lighthouse, and then they're fighting and they're screaming and they're getting drunk at one point, and they go to kiss each other. Yeah. And you go, and it's earned, and it feels real. And I think that happened to Nathaniel Hawthorne and Franklin Pierce.

I think that did happen. I'm walking that in. You can go so crazy that you just lose your mind and become gay. You could go so crazy that you have sex with your gay friend. You need something psychotic.

Something crazy. Like something fucking crazy. There's another thing also. With Buchanan. So Buchanan's another one that I think ties in with Franklin Pierce. They were banging each other? It gets deep.

Buchanons is in. Interesting. Yeah. So you guys know James Buchanan. Mm-hmm. All-time great president. I don't know a single thing to be candid. I don't think I know anything about Buchanan is that some people are going to know about Buchanan is that some people thought he was getting.

Yeah. But this guy lived with William Rufus King in a way that some people say went way beyond friendship. Okay. So Buchanan didn't marry and he shared a home with William Rufus King and Alabama Senator for over 10 years in Washington, D.C. They were close. And so close that people started to take notice. 1844, Andrew Jackson, who didn't like Buchanan, called him Miss Nancy. Wow.

Well, Jackson was a fuck. Yeah, Jackson was a wild guy. He's definitely the type of dude to be like, you're gay. He called Buchanan Aunt Fancy. And that was all of shots fire. That's so funny. And it became like a name that stuck around. Ant Fancy is so funny.

Yeah, the two guys that live together. Dude, that's like Trump tier. Yeah, yeah. That's like Sleepy Joe. You know who Trump's favorite president is? No way. AJ? AJ.

Dude, I mean, AJ did go off. You got to find the picture in the Oval Office. That's his favorite president. Trump was like, he's like, yeah, a lot of people say I'm just like Andrew Jackson. I can see the, he loves him. Well, they're both. He's got a portrait in the Oval Office. And yeah, he just like, he signs all the docks.

Oh, where is he at? Oh, there you go. Nice. Just every time he's giving a speech, he's like, yeah, I just got my boy or my shop. Also, Andrew Jackson is responsible for giving us Florida. Fun fact. Yeah. You like went in.

And I think, was it not Louisiana? Now Louisiana purges is Jefferson. Yeah. Thomas Jefferson, baby. Oh, okay. Yeah, TJ locked it up. 1853? He was...

He was... He wasn't he in Louisiana for it though? And, like, grabbed it. Like, maybe it was... I don't remember. But there was someone, I think, a future president, like, bought it and then, like, went back to the White House. I don't know how you'd fact check this.

But, like, he was over there and... bought it because it was so cheap, but there was no way of communicating that this is a good deal and we should do it. But he had the authority to do it and then just came back and did it. And was like, by the way, that happened. And everyone was like, sick as hell.

Yeah, everyone was like great. But it was like the kind of thing that he didn't necessarily have a clearance from the president to do, but he kind of did it. Well, that's what he did in Florida, basically. So I think he was like the, I think he was the, what's the main guy

in charge of the military? He's like the main general or some shit. That's right. No. Something like that. And basically it was just like, yo, we got to go into Florida

because these Seminels are like killing our guys. And so just like without really clearing it with the president at the time, AJ just went in there, and just like, I'll take that. Thank you very much.

Nice. And it just scooped the whole thing. And then Spain was like, bro, what the fuck? You just killed a bunch of our guys too. And he was like, look, we had to go and defend our people. It was a whole mess.

Da-da-da-da. And that's why we got floated. Yeah. He was kind of like, Andrew Jack, That's kind of like the Trump comparison. He kind of would just do shit. Yeah.

He was just kind of do shit. It was very forgiveness permission guy. Yeah, you know? He also has the sickest assassination attempt ever. What is that? Guy tried to shoot him, brought out a gun, gun misfires. Oh shit. Ditches the gun, has another gun.

Nice. Also misfires. No. Both of them jammed up, they say due to the humidity in DC at the time. Damn. And, yeah, both the guns jam. And then he's like, they tackle the guy. And Andrew Jackson's like, unhold me.

because I want to beat the fuck out of this guy with my cane. Oh yeah, he beats him up with his cane. Yeah, and he's like, oh, fuck this dude. That rules. Yeah, so a wild guy. But yeah, Buchanan, he was basically like, hey, we just live together, okay? So there's nothing out of the norm, all right? Ten years is a long time to live with another man if you're a successful statesman.

You know what I mean? This is a gay man. Did he have a wife and kids? Buchanan did not. He was a bachelor's whole life? Can you double check that? I don't know if Buchanan married, but at the time that they were together, I don't think he was. At his age, if he's in.

in D.C. He's living with the same guy for 10 years. That's a long time. And if you confirm no wife, no kids. I've not been with my, I've not lived with my wife for 10 years. Think about that. And I'm just one of the straightest guys, you know.

Yeah, one of the straight. Well, actually, if we pull up Grock. He was engaged, but she died. Oh. He had several orphaned to go do gay. He's the only U.S. president to never marry. Never married, no kids. Yeah, dude.

I mean, that's suss. Like, back, what? What years was he? In the 1840s? So, yeah, man, people got married, dude. You got married. You had kids. Yeah, that's extra gay for back then.

That's a good point. That's double extra gay. I mean, also, what's triple extra gay is that, dude, I mean, the amount of, like, you have a kid, like, you have a wife or, like, and she dies. Like, the turnaround rate on wives back then was like, next week I'm near. I'm literally fucking her sister tomorrow. He's also the president of the United States. Yeah. Like, it wouldn't be hard to you.

Yeah. You'd probably some, you know, great A-pus. Yeah. So King, his roommate, wrote to Buchanan in 1844, I am selfish enough to hope you will not be able to procure an associate, showing that he didn't want to share him. After King died in 1853, Buchanan wrote, I am now solitary and alone, having no companion in the house with me.

Oh, he's a gay, man. Super gay. So gay. Yes, he's hell. 1800s, bro. People wrote letters to each other. No, it's gay. This guy's gay.

I don't have a companion anymore That's some Sam Smith shit, dude Yeah Dude your roommate of 10 years Dies and you're like weep it You know what I mean? It's like

Come on now Also Anybody I know their roommate dies And they're throwing a party Honestly a good point They're just posting on You know Facebook marketplace

Yeah Yeah Apparently after Buchanan dies His niece Acquires his estate And burns Most of his papers Which some

He's drawing It's just stick figure sucking cock and just this is me. Yeah. He did write a letter to his fiance, Anne Coleman in 1819, and said, You are all the my heart desires prior to her untimely death. That'd be the first time a man lied to a woman. You're all my heart desires. Yeah, that's not even, see, I would never say some shit like that.

Yeah. Never, right? You're straight. I'm straight as I would never say some shit like that, bro. So what do we think? James Buchanan. Gay. Gay, for sure.

Gay. 100% gay. All right, we got another, we got a banger here. Let's go. John F. Kennedy. No way. I'm just, watch it. Is that a joke?

Some people have suspected, okay? He might have just put his cock in anything. That is possible. And this is where we have to have the buy category. Okay? So despite his Catholic upbringing, Kennedy was inseparable from his friend, Kirk Le Moyne Lem Billings. So Kirk Billings.

The pair were inseparable. And can we just pull up a picture of JFK and Kirk Billings? They were inseparable with Mr. Billings, helping run Kennedy's presidential campaign and even served as an usher at his wedding and even getting his own bedroom at the White House. Although their relationship was considered platonic, author Jerry Oppenheimer, claims that the pair had

a friendship that included oral sex. According to Jerry Oppenheimer, Jack, always on the receiving end. Okay. Well, I'm glad we cleared that up. Yeah. He wasn't sick. Can you scroll down to the picture? Yeah, hold on.

Let's scroll down a little bit. Wow. Game men's course of South Florida. It's just a picture of Mark. No. You're more self than me. You're South Florida, brother. You're from South Florida.

You're from Miami. I'm from Miami boys. Let's be around your fitness skirt. Let's be clear, you guys are both part of the gay men's course. Can you pull up a... Go back and search a picture. There's one of them that's their shirtless. and it's just fire.

Dude, that one right there. Look at that. Yeah, yeah. On the left? Left, one left? I mean, that one is fire. Tell me these guys aren't at Fire Island right now.

Dude, that's taken right in Provincetown. On the beach. I don't know. Go to the one on top left of the whole screen. That one. No, scroll, scroll. Oh. Yeah.

Oh. Yeah. No. They're holding a puppy. Oh, that's sweet. That's sweet. Young Jack Kennedy was a handsome guy. He looks like Jimmy Neutron.

Dude, I don't think so. Yugi Hauser. Yeah. Yeah, so some people say he was gay. In 1937, Billings Road to JFK saying, I'm counting the days until we're together again.

Bro, gay. Okay, we just kind of established something that might just, you know, it would be applicable to all, like everything we're talking about now. Yeah. It is gay to write another man a letter. No matter what you say in the letter.

but didn't I wrote you and your family a thank you note I want to be clear I wrote you and your family a thank you note that is true I wouldn't describe that as a letter

yeah but it did start with my dearest mark yes yeah yeah yeah it was also jizz on my toilet seat again dude what that I never gooned her edge in your place

I'm just the moment I got to a hotel oh dude that's what hotels are for oh my god I'm gonna rub my butt cheeks on the curtains um Keep saying this thing about rubbing his butt cheeks.

That's like a 10th time. He said it. I floss my asshole with the curtains. Jackie said in 1864, look, this is just oral history. Yeah. She said in 1964, Lem was around a lot. He was a part of the family. Yeah, I mean, honestly, dude, you know what it is?

These guys crush push together all the time. You think that's what it is? 100%. He helped him put it back in. He helped to put it back in. Probably group sex, probably like orgy type activity, which, like, poly. Holly shit, you know what I mean?

So he's probably like a little gay, you know what I mean? You hold your boy's hand while he's in something else. Yeah. I think that's really on that's what we're looking at. Running trains. Yeah, trains. It was pointing a gay friends. It's like a lot of these are like, yo, this guy's friend was gay, so duh.

Yeah. It's like if that's what must make you gay. Yeah, if you're really close to a gay guy all the time in like 1842, fishy. Yeah, fish. Fishy. It's worthy of speculation. The people didn't have gaydar back then. The technology didn't exist.

They didn't have gay dar, that's for sure. I'm undecided. These pictures are suss, for sure. Dude, I'm telling you, dude, if you're in the Kennedys and you're in the fucking Hamptons or, like, wherever the fuck they would party. Nantucket, dude. Dude, summering in Nantucket with your boy, just crushing plus, crushing beers. There's a picture of me like this with many of my different friends.

It'd be so, dude, how fun would it be? Yeah, that's actually a great point, dude. If you got pictures of me and my friends, everybody's going to think I'm gay. Yeah. Yeah. So, I'm pretty touchy guy. So that's the evidence for gay, then the evidence for straight is that he was banging out

Marilyn Monroe, he was definitely crushing Pusser. He was Judas Exner. Can we pull up Jesus Exner? Yeah, Judith Xxner. Judith X. I mean, have you seen pictures of Jackie Onassis? Not a looker. Not a good-looking woman. It's so hard to tell for the time.

Have you seen the meme that she eats metal? This is not helping this case. Oh, that's a dude. Okay, never mind, that's a good one. Oh, no, she's a piece. Never mind. Sorry, just a strong jawline a little bit. They did her dirty with that.

piece. Look at that one. I definitely would. Yeah, would, right? 100,000% would. I'm talking about, sure, but yeah. Oh, my goodness.

She's beautiful. Yeah, she's hot. He's stunning. Dude, my all-time favorite, like, old school babe. Hedy Lamar. Oh, classic. Oh, my God.

I mean, this girl. A transistor something radio. She invented Wi-Fi or some shit. Yeah, she invented Wi-Fi. But, like, even for the time, like, even for now. If you saw this girl walking in Soho now, he'd be like, God, damn. Yeah.

And that's like, no surgery, no surgery, no, No makeup even. Christos, can you pull up Sophia Loren? Please? Old school Sophia Loren. Is this from the 90s? Yeah, Sophia Lorenz. No, no, no, no, no.

I'm thinking of, um... Oh! Young. Oh! Click that first picture, dude. Yeah, she's a piece. Brough. Yeah.

Come on. And what year is this? It looks like the 60s or 70s. Whoa. She looks like the chick from Waterboy. Oh, I love that girl. She's hot as hell. She's creepy hot.

She's born in 1934. Do you get a picture of her now? Yeah. Is she dead? Apparently she's still alive. It didn't have it. It didn't have an end date. So the question remains.

You know how prime of peace. Whoa. She got fucked up. So the question is, would you... That's not bad. Actually, for 90? 90. Take down now with all due respect.

Take down now just as a legendary callback. Just be like, yeah. It's not even legendary enough, dude. People are out of Banks Sophia Loren and people are like, who is that? But you show them a picture. like this girl. And they'd be like, whoa. You know what I love is that, what's her name?

She's like, um, got huge jugs. She's like 80. Surandon. Oh, Susan Sarandon. I would dog out Susan Sarandon right now. She's so hot. Susan Saranan is a babe, dude. She's like 80.

She's like 80? Helen Mirren still probably would. Hold on. Yeah, you would. And she's got fucking hogs on her. Yeah. She's got wilds. Oh.

Yeah, she's got fucking monsters. Whammy. Monsters. I mean, yeah. Yeah. She might be 72 there, but still. Enhance. Good neck, though. Your neck gets old. That's a pretty young neck. Look at that. That's a youthful neck. Yeah, she's got a glow.

No, the whole thing's holding together. It's a nice neck, dude. She was the with the guy from Shawshank forever. Tim Robbins? Tim Robbins. They never got married, but they've been together forever. Really? All right. How about LBJ? What's up, guys? We're going to take a break really quick because I'm saying, They'd hear in my beautiful tent, as you can see, every week, day in, day out.

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We're saying it's that why we call it a Johnson? J.FK, I'm saying, is like... JFK is... I think he's Ditty straight. He's Ditty straight. He gets so horny. Whoa. Like, Diddy just fuck to everyone. Yeah, that's what I mean.

Like, I think he gets so horny. You don't get to be straight. You don't get to say you're straight. You don't get to say you're straight. You can't just... Yeah, you're actually right. You can't default to straight. If you read Justin Bieber, you read Mick Mill or fucked him, essentially.

Yeah, that's fair. Okay, that's fair. I'm not going to put ditty straight on him. Yeah, I'm not going to put ditty straight on him. I also wouldn't put straight on ditty. But that's what I'm saying. I would say prolific. Yeah, we just say no ditty.

That's a good point. Yeah, but this is where I think he got so horny sometimes in like freaky group sex shit that he would like fucking throw a cock in his mouth every now and again. But he preferred pussy. I think, yeah. Bisexual. He's like, I'm fucking chucky. I can't do a good jamesical.

So like bisexual, but I would almost say like he was just down a clown. Like I wouldn't even think, you know what I mean? like he probably had a, he would have a girlfriend, have a wife. You know, he would never like marry a man, date a man,

but he'd get freaky. But he would do these things. He was just on freak mode. Not because it was easy. Because it was had. Because it was had. JFK's freakoffs? Yeah,

yeah, JFK freakoffs. Have you heard these stories where he's in Cuba? Is he having freakoffs? He's, apparently they, he has like a threesome in Cuba

when Cuba was like Las Vegas and it's like open and like things are fire. And it gets like recorded or like they have like photographs or some shit. Whoa. And this is when he was just like a young senator.

Is it Devils? What is that? Devils through some. Oh, no, I think it was a menage. Fire. Nice.

Yeah. Yeah. Very strict. Very cool. Yeah. So like, In Havana back in the, bro. Come on.

Sipping some dackery. At the casino. Yeah. Come on. In Havana. Yeah. It's nice. Was it?

Bista? Was it or did he overthrow the, I think Batista was the one in America liked. Yeah. And then Fidel came in. Fidel came in. I could be wrong about. I had to pull up with a little coop.

I think he's a right. I don't know. I think you're correct. Fidel was a real rascal. Fidel could have played for the Mets. No. Really? Yeah, Fidel tried out for the Mets.

That's pretty sick. What? Yeah, he tried out for the Mets and did make it and then ended up throwing the government. That was his sort of B plan. Literally A plan. A plan was fucking three years. Yeah, you can look at Fidel Castro.

He's in a fucking Mets uniform. That's sick. He played like spring training for the Mets. Creasasasas, are you there? We should pull that up. The, the, the, the, Fidel and a picture of him, I swear to God, in like, Metzgear. I mean, that's, how fire would that be? Do Fidel was fucking nasty, bro.

Do, I went and saw Fidel and Queens. Oh. Look at him right there. Whoa. I mean, that's wild. Oh, he even threw it old school. Yeah, he was a picture, I think. Look at that.

Oh, he looks great. Yeah. And then. Check that out. Oh, with the gogs? With the gogs on, dude, with the Eric Gagnez. Oh, that's sick as hell. I think I'm a Fidel guy.

I think I like Fidel. Now, Fidel's pretty cool. You know what I mean? It's aesthetically, maybe you don't agree with his, you know, communist authoritarian politics, but he could throw a nasty fucking heater. Yeah. He's also, like, unfortunately, an all-time winner. You know what I mean?

Like, whatever you have said about him, like, the CIA tried to kill him a million different ways. They're putting fucking poison in his cigars. Yeah, there are explosives, right? Was it an explosive in a cigar? They did everything. Like, literally, like, there's a whole... They hired the mob to try to kill Fidel. Yeah, for sure.

It's like they hired two Sam Gian-Con. and Johnny Roselli, two, like, famous Italian mob guys from Chicago. Yeah. The fucking Buffalo goons. Yeah. And they hired them to go down there and try to kill him. We had a mobster.

Stefano Magadino. That was a Buffalo mobster. Really? Is he still active? No, no, he's dead now. He was one of Capone's guys. Oh, really? Stefanel Megadino.

Yeah. Stefano Megadino. Yeah. But yeah, they tried to get Fidel. There's a story from a woman that was hired as like a honeypot to get Fidel. And then she just liked them, right? Literally. Oh, hell yeah.

It's the fun. But yeah, this woman goes down to Cuba, seduces him, and what she has to do is she has to put a... Bro, she has to put a cyanide in, like, his... Like a cyanide pill in his drink or something. And the cyanide pill like melts, and then she, like, can't do it. She doesn't want to get on her hand,

and she's like, oh, fuck, she comes out of the bathroom. Fidel's like, so you were going to kill me, huh? Whoa, badass. And he's just sitting there, spread eagle, just on the bed, just full on. fucking busted in her. This is before. And he goes, you were going to kill me. And she goes, yeah.

Pulls out a gun, throws it on the bed. He goes, do it. Whoa. This is the story. This is the story she told. And he goes, go ahead. Do it. I'm right here.

Dude, I'm a Fidel guy. Yeah. She like grabs the gun and she's like, and then just starts crying, puts the gun down. And then they fuck. Dude, badass. What about Trudeau?

That's, that's Fidel's kid. Yeah, that's what the record says. He kind of looks like him. Oh, he looks extremely like him. Spitting image. And they, they were. doing they were partying in Cuba yeah his parents were partying in Cuba gay guys Trudeau's mom's down there Trudeau's oh fuckin do you think he put on brown face

to look like daddy I just want to be my daddy I didn't they're like what are you doing it's like I'm Aladdin yeah I'm a baseball player for the Mets I don't know I'm yeah I mean he looks a lot like he does kind of look oh dude he looks so Cuban in that one yeah yeah he's a mustache away from just being Dominicana or something he's got the go t gone that's crazy bro He looks like Pedro Pascal Yeah Yeah Yeah

Yeah Easy, whoa I was probably where he got the idea To freeze bank accounts Yeah, exactly Yeah, he just hates the truckers, dude He heights truckers man Even though his dad looks like a trucker dude

Yeah His dad's an all-time trucker He really does Yeah Dude, he looks so much like him bro I feel like Paul Dano could play Fidel He kind of looks like a Paul Dano

Pallano Rips I love Paul Dano LBJ, 37th president of the United States, 63 to 69. And he dodged a bunch of scandals. But his close personal friend and de facto chief of staff, Walter Jenkins, was outed. As gay? 1964, President-elect Jenkins was arrested in charge with disorderly conduct with another man in a public YMCA restroom in Washington, D.C.

It's fun to stay at the YMC. forcing him to resign. His political career was over. Johnson insisted that he had no idea about Jackson's personal life, saying, I couldn't have been more shocked to hear about Walter Jenkins if I heard that Lady Bird had tried to kill the Pope.

That's his dog. Lady Bird's his dog, right? I think so. Opponents had made a lot of mileage out of the suggested innuendo with a bunch of bumper stickers at the time saying, all the way with LBJ, but don't go near the YMCA.

Bars. Bumper stickers were too long in 1960s. Cars were bigger. It wasn't picky. Cars were... Good point. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you got a long... Yeah, you got room on the back of your Lincoln for that.

Yeah, exactly. You got room for a mouthful on the back of the Buick. Yeah, pause. But, yeah, Jenkins was gay. Mouthful. He was sucking off a guy in the YMCA bathroom. So funny. But he had been friends with Johnson for decades,

handling his schedules, secrets, everything. Yeah. And, yeah, Johnson was like, too, I don't know anything. But... Maybe this is, like, another just complete speculation. That's a good guy to have as, like, you're a guy with secrets. Yeah.

It's like you have the biggest... A perfect guy to have, like... That's why I tell Luke everything. Because he has a huge secret that I don't want to do this clothes. Speaking of Italian mob guys, you know what the mob opened up all the gay bars in New York? Well, it's just good business. Apparently, I shouldn't say all, but they open up some gay bars in New York. These fucking foot no because you can spend money.

These creative guys, you know? And they end up going to gay bars like, you know, cops or like a local politician. And then the mob is like, oh, we saw that you were out of this gay bar. Mm-hmm. And the cop is like, how do you know that? And he's like, well, we own it. Well, we own it.

We know. It's like... On a mob profit from the largely unregulated gay nightlife scene at the time. Largely unregulated. Yeah, fat Tony's cock-sucking cafe. Oh, they own the Stonewall in? Yeah. Wow.

Yeah, I guess it won't... Look at that. Wait, so Stonewall, I don't... The only thing I know about Stonewall is that cops rated it and then they fought them off. Is that the whole thing? They threw a brick or something. Yeah, I think they, like, won. They won, like, an altercation with the cops.

It was like the Alamo. So the mob wasn't involved in that, right? I don't believe so. Okay, I was just curious. I think it was more of a misunderstanding. What was? The Stonewall thing. That was a drag queen's name.

Misunderstanding? That was kind of fire. She was there, like, fucking. But, yeah, apparently it was like the Alamo. The cops came in, they defended it. Right. And it became, like a bastion of key rights. Well, maybe not the Alamo.

Type shit, right? I mean, the Alamo got fucked. fucked up. Well, the Mexicans held them off for a little. Remember the Alamo? Yeah, but they got fucked. The people at the Alamo got fucked up. That was the whole thing. It was like they shouldn't have stayed there. It was like one

versus a million. Yeah, but the Mexicans won. Yeah, the Mexicans won. Don't take away the gay Alamo. No, no, no, I'm saying the Alamo's they won at Stonewall. They did not win at the Alamo. I think the Mexicans like fought them off and like won and then they eventually later got conquered.

But like for like a little window of time, I think. Yeah, they held off Mexicans for a while, but they got owned. I think you're just like remember, maybe I'm remembering the Alamo incorrectly. I thought the Alamo was like, there was like six dudes and like six million Mexicans. Oh, I thought it was the other way around. No, there was like, they were way outnumbered by Mexicans. That's why it was so brave. Oh.

And they were holding down the Alamo, the fort. And then the Mexicans totally overtook it. But like, they did surprisingly well for how few of Americans there were at the Alamo. Just six American guys in like 2000. thousand Mexicans pull up on BMX bikes. Yeah, yeah. Just in one van. Yeah.

It's a six-foot wall. They need to like... It's a six-foot wall. It takes them 12 years to climb it. Just six guys with a hammer. Just like, ding. Just 20 guys in the U-Haul. Yeah.

Yeah, I think that's right. I don't know. Maybe someone's in the comments, Matt, I mean, I'm sorry if I misremembered the al-a-a-in-the-comets. Yeah, so one thing you're not supposed to do. Christoph-Gae in the comments. Christoph, get of a Chris-off's gay and he doesn't know the al-a-in-com. Chat.

It's Christop. Chat. Chat. But when were we talking about LBJ? LBJ. He says, I can't imagine life without him when a reporter had asked

about Jenkins' homosexual escalation. That sounds like a good friend. That sounds like a good friend. Dude, a gay got to keep your secrets? Yeah. So far. Who's better to gossip? Good theory, yeah.

Yeah. 1964, he told a friend, this is a hell of a mess. I've lost my best man. Best man. Friends, dude. They were boys. I think, well,

LBJ used to like to pulls cock out. Oh, yeah. infamously loved a, he had a huge dick. Yeah, yeah. Is that why they call it a Johnson? It might be. That is a good question.

That's a great question. Apparently, LBJ called his penis jumbo. Yeah, dude. Love that. And he would not zip up his pants and then ask Collies if they had ever seen anything as big as his penis. Yeah.

That's awesome. He had a monster hog. Another thing he did, dude, there's a recording of him asking for bigger pants. No. Have you heard about this? He's like calling, and he's like kind of,

joking and bragging. He was like, dude, honestly, these pants, like my cock's too big for them. I just found it. It's a quote he says. And another thing, the crotch, down where you're nuts hang, it's always a little too tight. Yeah, dude. He had a monster piece. He looked like a guy with a big cut.

Wait. Gorge. He's also his penis. He's gorge. It was gorgeous. Yeah. So he was just, hold it out so often that he pretty much reduced much of his presidency to a literal dick measuring contest. Sick.

Let's not. Let's not. too close to people. It's amplified, size, big personality. Curse like a sailor, dirty jokes, whipped his cock. This guy rules. Yeah, he sounds fucking awesome. Yeah, he killed Kennedy, I think?

You think so? No, I don't think so. No, that was the CIA in the mob. I knew a black dude in college who whipped his giant cock out all the time. In the common area of the dorm. Oh, yeah, there was a kid in my high school would do that. Yeah, but guys are big dicks with him out. Yeah, well, if it's big on soft.

Yeah, if it's big on soft, he's crazy. I have a big soft penis. Really? Yeah, and a really small heart. penis. You're a shrinker? Dude, I am like, yeah, some people showers grows I'm a shrinker.

You know what I'm like? Dude, I have like a four inch penis soft and then it gets hard and just goes from here to here. It just changes angles. There's no way. I swear to God. That's crazy.

That's sick as hell. Mine is like a queer eye for the straight guy level glow up, dude. Oh, yeah. Same, dude. I'll get out of a cold shower and be like, no one can see me like this. No, I'll get out of a warm shower

and be like, dude, I have like a string bean down there. And then it gets hard. I swear it goes just from 90, you know, from 180 to 9. It just lifts up. It just, yeah, just changes directions. That's crazy. Yeah, it's small, hard.

Hits the Hiles. Big soft. Small hard. Dude, dude, you got a Nazi dude, bro. Yeah, you do. Wait, why? You could just fucking. Hiles?

Yeah, just hiles. If I'm in a bad situation, dude, I'm wearing spandex, I'm a cold. My shit looks like a macadamia. Dude, he cycles in like full, have you heard this? Yeah, he wears this. Mark is very supportive of my cycling. Yeah, he would be. But, I mean, he's one of the top 12 gay podcasters.

Yeah, we are doing cycling camp Cycling camp Yeah, cycling rules Yeah, it is a tough It is, you have to do a whole outfit for it Like it's one of the few sports You don't, bro, wear some fucking gym shorts, bro No, dude, you're not

Dynamic, dude, you're gonna change You don't even know, this is so funny, dude He wants to go two miles an hour faster So he has to dress like he's on the Jamaican bobsled team It's psychotic He's just trying to feel the rhythm I'm trying to ride I'm wearing mid-bibbs in my tiny cock

He's got up. It's cock suck time. It's John Candy standing beside you. My brother got in a fight with a cyclist in his clippy-cloppy shoes. Yeah, no good. Your brother's cycles, though. My brother loves a cycle. But he, like, was with the cycle and a cycle who was, like, trying to take the road.

My brother's hawking at him. They get to a red-lice cycler gets off his bike on clips, unclips. And then literally, like, gets up to the window. He's like, dude, what the fuck? And then, like, you want to fight me? My brother was like, you're wearing hide-hies. Yeah. You got your tap.

You got your taps on it. Yeah, it's insane. But, like, you can't fight someone in tap shoes. Yeah. You can't have sex with a woman if you wear that kind of stuff. Right? Whoa. Whoa.

Evidently. Oh, jumbo. I want to hear more about jumbo. Oh, dude. Jumbo is insane. Calling you gay, I'm like, describe his penis one. In detail. In detail.

Put a pin on you being gay. Describe the penis, please. Johnson once urinated on a Secret Service agent's leg. That's straight to tell. While the agent was giving him cover, the president told him, he says, don't worry, my son, it's my prerogative. Wait, so, okay, giving him cover, like,

was he getting, like, shot at or something? I don't know. There's not LBJ assassination attempts that I'm aware of. He's just doing his job. The guy was just doing his job. Yeah, I'm assuming him, and he pissed on his leg. That's fucked up. It's insane.

Apparently, he loved to conduct his meetings while sitting on the toilet or urinating in a sink. He's a sink pisser. Yeah, he's tall. You're a sink pisser, Mark. On occasion. Yeah. What is what this pissing in the sink thing?

I keep hearing about. Only in my home, okay. That's your sink, that's worse. Let me ask you this. Don't tell my wife about this, by the way. I don't understand the allure. It's just that I don't have to, like the sink is at dickluck height. Yeah, and so.

Well, it's about six inches higher than where you're saying. I can't even. This is how Luke watches his hands? Just washing up. I can't even. There's one drop of water. He's like a little mouse. Goes near a gutter and a rainstorm.

Oh, I'm done. I think Luke took a shower. Bro, I have Marfan syndrome. This is how are you going to treat me? Hold on. Do the side? You know it's fucked up? You're not wrong.

I mean, look, I'm, you're more than one drop of water. I'm not a mouse. Can you do the sound of Luke doing a cannibal into a pool? I'm sitting tall right now, dude. You have a little booster. I don't have a booster. They can't see shit, dude. Look at me.

You're sitting on like a fucking... No, cut to the Uricoy Afghan. We have an obscure can. We do have an upskirt cam. Yeah, yeah. I have another fun little presidential anecdote. So during the presidential campaign of 1800, Thomas Jefferson, this is in line with LVJ, just being an insane person.

But Thomas Jefferson accused John Adams of having, quote, hideous hermaphrodical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman. So that's... Who said that about John Adams? Thomas Jefferson. Yeah, but John Adams was like a pussy. Yeah.

He was like a dork. John Adams was like dorker. Yeah. I didn't know. He was a dweeb. And also you got to translate. That's Jefferson saying, you want some funny shit. You want some foo-foo shit.

I think he's saying like, bro, you're such a bitch. You're not even good enough to be an actual bitch. Yo. That's really what he's saying. He's like, you're not a man or woman. Yeah, you're like neither. Like you kind of just like you're a dickless man. and like, but you're not even like a pleasant woman.

Yeah. Yeah, I think that's, I mean, I think he's just dunking on him because everyone hated John Adams, if I remember correctly. Really? People did not like John Adams. I've never heard that before.

Was he just like petty? I don't know if he was petty, but I'm trying to remember stuff about why they would hate him, but I think I've just always heard he was kind of like by the books kind of pencil nerd. It was like trying to kind of do the, like he was kind of like a Carter type, you know? Oh, I'm pretty sure John.

John Adams represented the British after the Boston Massacre. Sounds right. And he was like, they are entitled to due process. Yeah. Or something like that. Yeah, it was stuff like that where they cared about like just doing things the right way, even if it was like or like by the books way, even if it was like kind of illogical or immoral in that specific context. He wasn't like going to bend on those things. He's like, no, the rules are the rules.

I hate people like that. Yeah, exactly. That guy sounds awesome. Okay. Sounds like he's just kind of dork. He was kind of dork. Sounds like he was good moral character. Right. He had such integrity that was fucking annoying.

It sounds like he was a follower. An outstanding good guy. Yeah, for sure. I got another one. This is not necessarily a president per se. Is it Luke Tuma? President of the GMCFS. What was it?

I'm not even from South Florida. You guys brought that up. That's what's so weird is that you made the trek down. Yeah, yeah, that is a good point. You were born in Buffalo and you moved down to Florida. I remember that? I was a missionary. I was trying to make you guys holy.

Yeah, missionary. Yeah, more like, uh, I don't know, something else. Anyway, Alexander Hamilton never became president, but some people did say that he was gay. As well as, uh, his affairs with women, doubt has been cast over his relationships with men. Now, again, this comes from pinknews.com. Uh-huh.

During the American Revolution, his letters to his friend, John Laris and Marquez de Lafayette grew more affectionate and flowery. It's Marquis. I always pronounce it wrong. Marquis de Lafayette. Yeah. I literally, I see that name, I just think of the dude from Hamilton. This guy is a black guy in my mind.

I think Marquis is Coles. Yeah, literally. That's why I call him Marquez. He's Marquis. Marquez de Lafayette. That's like his title is Marquis. I thought he was Haitian. Marquis de Lafayette.

He's just a white guy. That's a Haitian-ass name. Marquez de Lafayette. Yeah, that's a Haitian name. Yeah, I went to school with Marquez de Lafayette. That's like a Broward running back or something. Yeah, you started running back in my high school. It got to be.

Many accounts describe Hamilton as feminine. In one letter, Hamilton describes himself. as a jealous lover over Lauren's failing to reply, adding, like a jealous lover, when I thought you slighted my caresses, my affection was alarmed, and my vanity peaked. Whoa. He wrote in another letter after the departure of Lawrence,

I wished, my dear Lawrence, it might be in my power by action rather than words to convince you that I love you. I shall only tell you that till you bade us ado. I mean, this isn't out of the closet homosexual. Really? I disagree. I hardly knew the value had a time. Hot my heart set upon you.

Bro. I don't know. He said like a jealous lover, though. Right? That's like kind of a tip off that it's not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, I'm using a metaphor. Yeah.

I'm just being... I'm metaphorically saying like a jealous lover. Like, you ever get into like a fight with a real close friend and you're like, what are you my fucking girlfriend? Like you get to that point where you're like you're bickering with like a close friend? Yeah, yeah. I mean, I have. So you're like, then you're like, okay, we're both dudes.

Let's stop doing this is gay, yo. And that's kind of what he's getting at. He's like, I'm like, dude, you're fucking making me feel like a fucking jealous lover, dude. What's your problem? This could be a nail in the coffin right here. He said, again, in the same letter, you should not have taken advantage of my sensibility to steal my affections without my consent. You got re-h-hobbed. I'm sorry, I called him gay.

This is a rape victim. Yeah, yeah, maybe we're taking this back. But wait, he said at the beginning of that same letter, is this a different letter? I think that was the same letter. You said, like a jealous lover, and then by the end he goes, you took advantage of me. Yeah, you took advantage of my, you stole my affections. Yeah, maybe he got his affections stole, pause.

And then he was like, now he feels like attachment to the guy. Yeah. And he feels like bad about it. Yeah. Do you know what I'm saying? Stockholm syndrome. Fucking cock home syndrome.

Yeah, fucking. Could be. I don't think that's gay. No, I don't think that's gay. I think he got rigged for sure. Something sketchy might have. Well, that's 100%. That's only a sketchy might have it.

He definitely got right. But that doesn't make you get. That means someone, you know. No, I think he like, I think it sounds like he got kind of backstabbed by this close friend of his. Pause. And then backstabed is funny. He got backstabbed. Oh, you let another man stab you a back?

Is Luigi Mangione, is he gay? No. What happened to Luigi Mangione is that he had back surgery that made his cock not get hard and he went in-cell mode, but he was too hot to be in-cell mode. decided to take ayahuasca in Hawaii and then lost his mind and got really mad at health insurance companies because of his back surgery stuff

even though he had money and he was like a... It was still a pain in the ass for him because of the insurance companies, no pun intended. And he just shot the guy in the back because he went crazy taking mushrooms for white. I also think it wasn't that he couldn't get his dick hard it's that he just couldn't stroke, dude. Yeah, I mean, yeah, the back is so integral to the stroke.

I think, yeah, he couldn't stroke. And if you're also... If the lady's on top, that's still pressure on the lower. Yeah, it's probably, you know, maybe it aggravates some kind of like lower spine type. Yeah, he had no way to. Lumbar. What's that called where it goes down your leg? Sciatica.

Yeah. Syatica. Yeah, that's, yeah, surf-induced sciatica. He should have done it like, you ever see when, like, black dudes are getting twerked on and that friends hold them in the way? Yeah, that's how she had sex. Yeah, sure. Yeah, he should have gotten daggered down. Yeah, he should have got dagger danced to make it.

Yeah, could have fixed his back or something. You know, crack something back in place. Yeah. Is that the first killer from ayahuasca? No. I don't think so. Maybe not ayahuasca specifically, but like psychedelic derange. I mean, that's Manson.

Yeah, that's Manx. Yeah, that's Mancans. Yeah, I mean, they were definitely like, you know, slamming mushrooms and throwing babies down the well. Manson didn't kill anybody, though. So put some respect to my Manson name. Dude, are you a Manson-Tree? He's fucking lawyer? Well, dude, are you Manson?

Are you Manson pills? Stop lying on my man's name. That's crazy. My boy, Fee, Charlie, y'all. Speaking of Fidel, did you know Manson audition? to be in the monkeys, the band. Makes sense. Have you listened to his music?

No. It's not bad. No. I know your game, girl. Pretty good song. Can we pull that up? Yeah. I don't know that's going to be copyrighted, though.

I mean, just for us, though. Yeah, just for the vibe. Universal still owns the master. I think it's going to know your game or something like that. Oh, the, uh, I mean, yeah, we can pull this up. But, uh, oh, hell yeah. Charles Manson's audition for the monkeys. Snope says definitely fake, but I don't care.

Oh, well, we don't, this is a misinformation. He did not. This is a urban legend. Hey, hey, where the monkeys And he's like He's in the back of the people Are monkey around This is an urban legend

I'm sorry for misleading in the audience Oh, he was in jail at the time That he might have been auditioning He's a good singer He's got a pretty good voice He's like the vibrato Yeah, it's not terrible It's not bad

There's kind of like an ominous You know, gloomiest Yeah Even then, even then Well now No, he won't like This guy's starting to win me over I used to love a

him not. This manseing guy. No, yeah, but he had like a record deal and I think he made a record, I think he just bombed. Really? I think he, yeah, there's a full record. He has a full record out. That's crazy. You can find out on Spotify. He was like a L.A. guy, he's a Hollywood guy. There's just guys hanging around. Dude, well, the beach boys, the guy from the beach boys loved him.

Yeah. No. Yeah. One of the beach boys. I forget which beach boys. It's the shitty one. That guy, everyone says is a fucking asshole. Brian, or no, love. I think his last name was love and everyone says he's a fucking asshole. Really? I was thinking of the main guy Brian. Is he named Dean?

Brian Wilson. And then Mike Love. Mike Love and Charles Manson were like boys. That's wild. Yeah. Yeah, I guess that just happens in L.A., right? Yeah, for sure. You just rub shoulders.

Yeah. Psycho people, they go and kill actresses and stuff? Yeah, I mean. Oh, Dennis Wilson. That's who it was. Oh, is Dennis Wilson? Never mind. I thought it was love.

Everyone just hates love, so I assumed it was him. No. This guy's actually pretty nice. Unknowingly invited Satan into our mist when the Beach Boys Dennis Wilson became friends with Charles Manson. and his life changed forever. Whoa, acid orgies, new dinner parties, death threats? So he was in, was he in the Manson family?

I don't think he was fully in the Manson family, but he was definitely boys with Manson. I don't think he was kind of in the Manson. Yeah, it sounds like he was probably trying to get him in there. I mean, that's wild. This is so funny. I mean, new dinner parties, acid orgies, and death threats. Sounds like a good town to me.

I partied. Right? All right, this one has got to be complete bullshit, okay? Bill Clinton. I reserve kind of like the JFK mode. I think some guys are so horny that they just like throw their dick at the wall. I mean, rest in peace, and I don't want to speak ill of the dead. However, you know, what was the music producer?

He said Richard Pryor and was Richard Pryor and the guy from the Godfather. I'm blanking on his name. Brando. Brando. We're like fucking each other. Yeah, I heard that. Yeah, I've heard Marlon Brando got down. See, I could see Marlon Brando like being.

bisexual and just fucking guys. Richard Pryor fuck dudes. Yeah. Yeah, you just get bored. You're like, I'm just gonna fuck anyone. I think this is like, dude, I love that part of that roast where he goes, Paul was there when I fuck my first fat. Oh.

No. Oh, he's talking to Paul Mooney. He's doing a roast and they're on a dais, like a Comedy Central style roast. Back in the day and he starts laughing. He's like making fun of Paul Mooney. He goes, Paul was there when I fucked my first f***. And the crowd goes nuts. Pryor says this?

Yes. So he just fully, he was like, yeah, I'm gay. Oh, he was open about being bisexual. Yeah. He was like joking around that. Mooney was there when he banged his first dude. Wow, I didn't know that about Pryor. I thought it was a secret.

No, no secret, no. Oh. I mean, that's insane. Yeah, he made jokes about it. Oh, I had no clue. He's a fucking man, dude. Pryor's the man. Yeah, all time.

Dude, imagine if he did a gay special, like, how sick would that be? A gay special? Like, if he, like, openly talked about being gay on stage? Yeah, I was going to say, I know, I've never heard a joke. His Homo is crazy. Dude, super homo? The name of his... I've never heard him talk about it on stage.

Yeah, not that I can recall. I didn't know that he was open. You got to watch the roast clip. Okay. That's crazy. So fun. It's also crazy to just call a guy the F word after you had sex with him. And everyone goes, wow.

And everyone laughs. I mean, that's like Eddie Murphy's first special. Oh my God. It's kind of unwatchable of those jokes. Delirious is insane. You're like, Jesus. You got to keep walking around. I know.

You're like, God damn. Yeah. And the crash is like, yeah. And he's crushing. Yeah. It's a bit much. Yeah. Maybe I'm going to sound Lib Cuckville.

Maybe it's a bit much. Maybe you get a cuck in the chat. No. Boomer would be like... Boomer would be like... The kids like that, dude. The kids in the 80s when the special came out. That's how boomer you are, bro.

You're late for the kids in the 80s. I got unked so hard the other day at a show. What happened? This chick said, you're chopped. Have you heard this? Whoa. What's that mean? Bro. I don't know. You're chopped.

And she was like, you bugging. And I was like... I've heard bugging. I don't bugging. And then she was like, mid, you're mid. You're mid or something. And I was like, how am I mid and bugging? and chop

I don't I don't admit I know bugging but chopped is the first thing you say I have no idea what this word I'm not

I'm not familiar with chop I'm not dude dude so she's saying this shit yeah talking some shit I talked to

she didn't know she didn't say it to me she said it to these other people who were being annoying in the crowd

because they were being rowdy does this happen a lot when you're on stage dude I get heckled more than any community

I'm the most heckleable motherfucker dude I everyone's like dude their bully hackles go up and they're like

fuck this dark red hair hair pudgy ginger, you're fucked. That's awesome. 100% dude. Wait, how aren't you getting heckled? I'm getting heckled every day.

That's so fun. He does get heckled a lot. I get heckled more than I swear to God I get 2x the rate. What was, that's so funny? Do you think people? Yeah, or is it just people like just being mean? It's just like, they just like chirp at me like with a little making fun of you thing, you know? Wow.

That's awesome. That's like, next. Gay. Yeah, that's tough. Wow, dude. Yeah, I get a heck with a lot. That's crazy. You're a disrespected man.

You wonder why I'm like this. Yeah, dude. My whole life. I'm going full Vanjone. Manjone. Manjone. Yeah, that's insane. Yeah.

I've gotten a Next joke before. That infuriated. Whoa, that would have driven me nuts. Did you freak out? Dantona. Do you remember that place? A Star Lounge or whatever? Wait, where?

It's like the winter circle, winter circle. Oh, winter circle? Yeah. Some like old biker lady. Wait, winter circle I thought was Lakeland or something. Maybe. They're all the fucking city. Yeah, that's right.

Just that fucking Florida Roadshow. Dude, I mean Deltona, Daytona, Orange, De Land. All the same thing. Palm Coast. Not Palm Coast. It might be Palm Coast. Yeah, they all just blend it.

There's orange, something orange. Mm. Sucks. It all wall to all shit. Yeah, yeah. Northeast Florida is brutal. Next joke. Yeah.

St. Augustine's nice. Yeah, except for Jacksonville and St. Augustine's nice. But I mean, like, a little lower than that? I mean, Jacksonville. Yeah. Gainesville, you can have a good time. Gainesville's a fucking swamp.

But no, it's the, fuck, you at it's sick. Yeah, I guess so, man, but I don't know. I'm a St. Augustine Cat. I love St. Augustine Cat. I love St. Augustine Cat. I'm a St. Augustine Cat, but I'm a St. Augustine Cat. He is cat. I'm a St. Augustine Cat.

No, dude, I saw a great heckle. It was a Jimmy Car. Someone heckled Jimmy Car. And said, he was like, oh, my. I saw this one. He saw this? I thought it was funny. He goes, my father died watching one of your Netflix specials. And Jimmy's like, really?

He died? He's like, yeah, we watched his whole family. And Jimmy goes, was he sick? And he goes, no, he wasn't sick. He just died of boredom. It's just like classic British dryness. I found it very charming. And Jimmy just clapped.

I was like, oh, that's... He goes, ha-ha. That's a good Jimmy Carlin. That's exactly. You don't laugh like that, Jimmy. You're making it up. He says he laughs on the inhale. I saw him in a podcast

He was like, yeah I laugh He was like I laugh on the inhale So he goes No other human does that Yeah Exactly No he's like that

It's like Nelly from the woods Anyway Old Billy Clinton People think that he was gay No BC was not gay I only bring this up Because it became a famous clip

That Anne Coulter Accused Bill Clinton Of being a latent homosexual She said on her show And became a big news story At the time I think that sort of rampant promiscuity does show

some level of latent homosexuality. That's a chick who got cheated on and she's bitter about it. No, I agree with Anne Coulter. No, she's fucking... She's kind of, that's kind of what I'm saying. No. That kind of periscuity leads to latent homosexuality. I don't disagree with that at all. This is a lady you got cheated on and she's going, fucking, you want to fuck them any girls, you're gay.

She's pissed. She's projected. Have you gotten this before? No one's ever said that to me, ever. Yeah. Number one, I don't cheat. Black men don't say. Facts. Black men don't change.

And, uh, yeah, no, I think that's the lady who got cheated on. She's bitter. Well, first of all, Encoulter is a psycho. Yeah, that doesn't help. Wood. But also. You're nuts. No, wood.

Get the hell out of it. A young, look at a young An Colter. She looks like a broomstick. I know. Get out of here. She's terrifying. Look, can you pull her up, please? You can pull up young Ann Colter?

Can you pull up Ann Colter? Can you put Anne Coulter leaks? Mm. Come on. She looks like a horse thing. She looks like a race. Feed her a sugar cube. She looks like she's been dead for years.

Dude, that one on her IMDB, I mean, do this girl, this is the kind of girl you meet at Christian Sleepaway Camp and she just is a free. What roast was she on? Dude, this is gross, man. I don't like all those English. I don't know, but. Do you remember? Yes, she was on her, and she bombed her dick off. Yeah.

She sucked. Roblo What a ridiculous Yeah Ann Colter's roast of Roblo Yeah look at her in there She's kind of nice

With her nice swoopy hair I like it I mean yeah But remember Tommy Laron Oh P Central That's one thing What happened to her?

I don't know I think she just like Went away with her bags of money I'm just like how good I think Leftly needs I think hotter Like pundits

A hundred percent Yeah the hottest is AOC's peace She's baby Yeah, she's a piece. Look up AOC feet picks. But we need more of that. Yeah, for sure. I think if the left wants to really make an impact in 20...

Yeah, I was saying this earlier. What we need, like, what you need on the left is, like, a guy with sort of, like, Bernie's, like, kind of ethic and integrity. Yeah. And Susan's... And Susan's... And, like, fervor, but maybe a young, white, hot guy. Yeah. And I know just the guy.

I didn't know you're a big Bernie bro I love Bernie I said why it's really yeah it's he's really a nice guy it seems like yeah I mean even if you don't agree with like his like left wing policies I think there is like admiration of integrity kind of like a John McCain but of being like a socialist I told you I took a I took a political alignment test rather than college and you're Bernie Sanders I got the most retarded thing in the world what you get what you get like says you're gay. You know, most people

are like, yeah, you know, I'm like, I'm socially liberal, but I'm, uh, oh, have you seen this girl? This is like a porn star. Oh, I know this girl. She's a, she's from Florida. She's right, yeah, she's red-pilled hard. Yeah. You get to a level of hotness where I think you just are conservative. No, you know what it is? That's a problem for

the left, dude. It is a serious problem. To pull those ca-tas out, dude. This is going to sound sexist, but, or not sexist. That's insane. Wait, what did you say? He wants you land Omar. to drop them, bro, that's crazy. I definitely would for Omar. Yeah.

I don't know what she looks like. You don't know what she looks like? Well, I mean, she's all, you know, she's swaddled. Yeah. She's swaddled. Lauren Bobert, say what you will. Bobert? And she's a freak.

Give it the Boberts out. Yeah, yeah. She's a friend of the guy off of Hamilton or whatever. Beetle juice. Beetle juice. Made him come three times. Yeah. I mean, yeah, she's an absolute dime.

I mean, this is ridiculous. Like an actual dime. No, this is like, you know what? Okay. I'm, you know I like her in her little congresswoman off it Yeah, me too Dude, hot people are less likely to be left wing

Dude, how does she look hot with a tie? But why? Because ugly is a form of downtrodden You know what I mean? They understand oppression Right? You're marginalized group You're marginalized in some way

I mean, Luke is a screaming live Yeah, yeah, big time live Bro. Big time live. He looks like a dog He's a union dockwork No, 100% projecting This is completely about me

Dude, yeah, you can have like red hair and be fat and like freckled and then be like, I love, I love the right wing. It's like, come on, dude. Well, yeah, you think it's too much? It's too much. Okay, I get it. I mean, I told you about, yeah, blind Republicans. I'm in a blind Republican. Really?

A black girlfriend. Did he know? That's what I asked. First question. I go, I have horrible news. She's just on the side. Lakeisha, she's not who you think she is.

But, no, it was in that feminist lit class. Really? Because I would argue my little like, you know, this is actually stupid, which it was, but I didn't have to make a big stink. And then I swear like, like blind, the guy comes up to me, he's like, yeah, you know, I agree with everything you say, man.

I'm fucking. Oh, I like when I do that. Yeah, he's like, yeah, dude. My girlfriend's black, I believe. I was like, you don't have, no one, everyone's black to you. The world is black, actually How can I be racist?

I literally do not see color. It's funny to imagine when they're loud. I'll tell you that much, they're fucking loud. It's just so funny to imagine when women's lit like, this shit stinks, dude. This lady's a fucking hack, dude. Oh, fuck. Reading braille.

Oh, fuck, oh, bump-ty-pump, bump, bump. Fucking Gavin Newsome, this bitch ass. That fucking pussy ass. Yeah, I'd love to smell California. I don't know. Probably supposed to be fucking shit. Dude, every time I get in an Uber in Florida,

I tell them, like, yeah, come from New York. Every Uber driver goes, whoof, sorry about that. Yeah, every time. It's so weird. It's hilarious. Yeah, every, like, yeah, there's, like, another thing. Like, we were talking about, like,

guys who want land, they only, like, they're so homophobic. They don't even want to be near another man. I'll take 12 acres between me and the next cute guy. Or I don't know what the fuck I'll do. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'll never understand the not wanting to, like, I need to be a three-day walk from a citatistical.

Yeah, I'm like, why do you need this? What do you need this for? What about walking to his mouth? They're so scared. Like, those land people, they always seem so paranoid to me. You know, they need a lot of land and no one near them. I'm like, what do you think people are going to do to you? What happened to you?

Are you okay? Yeah, no, that is a little. It's like paranoia. On the other hand, I would love some land. I like land for the sake of land, but I don't like it for the sake of like distance from other humans. No, the exact opposite. I want a commune. A commune is we fire.

Dude, people in my family honestly tossed out the idea of a commune, and I was totally on board. Dude, I talked about my family. We've seven kids. My parents are seven kids. I don't know why I said, yeah, I actually don't want to live in a commune at all. I hate it. I don't want to do that.

He's not coming stuff like that. He's not a terrible share. I don't like to share. Dude, I feel like commune. Dude, I feel like commune, you get like seven different families. No, dude. Wait, what? No, that's not all.

No, no, no, no, no, no. Chill, dude. Well, let me see. Do you have a family pick? Yeah, quick family pick. I don't want to live in a commune. I don't like this. I want to be in a right-wing commune.

No, I don't want to be in a left-wing commune? It's going to stink in there. I don't want to be in a hippie cult. You want to be in Chaz? It's going to spell so good. No, I don't want to do drugs, though. I don't like doing hard drugs like that. Okay, so there's a bunch of libs, no drugs?

This sounds like shit. They can do drugs all they want. Sounds like a bummer. You sound like a bummer. A drugless Lived commune? My political score was basically this

exact thing. Oh yeah, yeah. I was socially conservative fiscally liberal. Yeah, me too. Yeah. I was like,

what? Dude, I tried to do a joke about it. Really? Yeah, I'd never made any sense but I was like, it was ironic, but the joke was like

socially, you know, socially conservative, fiscally liberal. I'm like, everyone should be like taken care of and I've played,

I mean, not gays, but like, you know, that was the joke. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, and then I was like,

and then I was, telling my friend about this and he's like, you are Catholic. I was like, oh, yes. Because I was raised Catholic and I think that just got in there. Also, the test was a little sketch. It was like, do you support abortion the ninth month? And I was like, I don't know about that. And they were like, do you think everyone should have a home?

And I was like, yeah, that sounds cool. Yeah. And they were like, look at you. I think everyone agrees with those two things, though. Virtually everyone. There's some other questions. I'm not going to get any details. Yeah.

If there were a democratic thing to be like late-term abortion, it would get voted no. It would get voted no. Yeah. And if also Republicans, and this is a hackneyed thing, but it's like Republicans and liberals want the same things. They just do it a different way. Like it's just one person claiming, no, the way for everyone to afford a home is this way. No, the way for everyone to afford a home is this way. So everyone wants everyone to own homes.

There's no one who's like, no rent for life. I like that. Unless you're a psycho. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Unless you're like one of these like tech acceleration. I think I'm also fiscally liberal, socially conservative. Yeah.

You're definitely What is that? I think I'm going Catholic We're all ethnically Catholic. Yeah, we're all Catholic kids. We're all Catholic boys

So I think that's part of it It's like you should be able to You know, keep a roof over your head Without working two jobs But also keep it in your fucking pants Queer Everyone should have a bedroom

That they keep everything inside of Yeah, pretty much I don't know I think But I don't know How socially conservative I am Really, I don't know Like I support gay marriage

But I also in Support abortion I gotta be honest I went to Provincetown one time And there's dudes walking dudes around on leashes and it's weird. Yeah, see, I'm like, get that out of my. Look, it is weird, but they don't have a party, dude, they have fun. Okay, here we go. It's a vibe. I'll be a vibe. You know what? Key West? Key West. K-West? C-West is a vibe. K-West sucks. K-West. I

You hate Key West? I feel like you would love Key West. No, dude. That's a terrible, dude, you're not on, you gotta be on Margaritaville. I'm not a Key West fan. The only thing good about Key West is Tom Dustin and James Patterson and the boys running the comedy of Key West. You don't like Key West? No, dude. I love Key West. I have a good argument for why. Okay, hit me. It's all hammered white boomers. It's too much, dude. It's shitty guys playing fucking brown-eyed girl terribly and drunk fucking people from places like Buffalo who are like 54 years old with their red sunbird chest singing along to this horribly played song.

You're just not grill-pilled. Yeah. You got to be grill-pilled. It's just too much in one place, dude. And they're all the same type of person. Yeah, you go there for a long weekend. You look at a chicken. You have like a dachery with seven shots of rum in it.

And it's like Bourbon Street if Jimmy Buffett invented it. fire. I'm not a Key West guy. I'm a New Orleans guy. And you know I love Florida. Key West is not my shit, though. I don't like that. We got to do a boys trip. Yeah, we got to do a boys trip. Part party place. You're the second group of dudes I've talked about doing a QS boy trip. This week in New York. I don't know. Everyone wants to go to Key West. Add it to the list. Add it to the list. Newest gay podcasters. Those guys, though, Tom Dustin and Patterson them. Probably a blast. Dude, they're all like, he's hilarious. He's hilarious. James Scott Patterson?

It's hilarious. And he's one of the most fun people to drink with in the world. Oh, really? I've never drank. I just saw, like, clipped him online. He's got a, he's like a, I don't know. Yeah, Boston guy. Yeah, he's an author. He's got like a James Patterson. Yeah, gonna kill himself vibe for sure. Yeah. But like in a fun way. Hell yeah. Like a fun Foster Wallace. Nice. Party Foster Wallace. And he's a part of Big Al's the other one. And they're all Boston guys. So they're big in Boston when I started there. And they're all like 50 years old. They live together. And they're all just do shows at Comedy Key West. And we would get shit.

Get fucked. That is awesome. You're getting hammered. And you didn't like this place? That sounds like everything you love in life. That was actually really fun. Yeah, you just didn't get a great time. Some of it was a little much.

Dude, you got to go beach bum mode. Have you seen Beachbum? The beaches are whack there, though. There's no real beaches, but you gotta go beach bum mode. Okay. What do you mean about that? Have you seen the movie Beachbum? Dude, it's great.

Matthew McConaug plays a character called Moondog. Hell yeah. He's like a poet. He writes these little poems, and he just like gets fucked. up and like he's crazy and it's awesome you know I was also there it's a harmony Korean that's not spring breakers honestly I was also there right when let's go Brandon was happening and those boomers it was a little much let's go brand it really was it trumpified in Key West yeah but it was specifically I don't even mind that Trump's

Trump's cool with me it's more like the phrase let's go brand it was really starting to annoy me and they were screaming it they caught a lick with that one and then they really leaned it was like boomer Facebook it was like a boomer Facebook meme island at the moment oh that sucks it was a little much. That sucks. Yeah, that's tough. All right, do you want to end with just an honorable mention? Yes. Luke Tuma. Not a little bit.

Can you just pull up Dwight Eisenhower gay? I mean, this girl is so attractive. Yeah, they're too. Absolutely. This is a fucking gun like you ever did fucking anything. You fucking dork. She can shoot me right between the eyes. I don't give a shit. Yeah, pull up an image and yeah, that one right there.

Oh, wow. But it's foo-fou-e. This is just, I don't know. I don't know if there's any... Oh, you can get on a water bottle. Make America gay again. I don't know if there's any other evidence to support this. Like, you can just click on the one below it.

Yeah, zoom in there. So what do you think? Gay or not? I mean, he's really happy. Look at that. Dude, honestly, it's not just the cross legs. No straight man has that good of posture. Also, look at that arm out.

That right arm is brutal. I mean, that's sorority pose. He's on sorority mode. And just a little smile and everything. That's like Fidel O'Kappa. That's brutal. Yeah, I'm going to go gay on that one. Yeah, he's gay.

He called out the military industrial complex. Gay. We're spending all this money of the thing. That's what Big Mike is, dude, military industrial complex. That's the one I support, you know what I mean? Damn. All right, I feel like we figured it out. We got it.

There's probably some other... We got down to brass tacks, dude. There's probably some other gay presence out there. There's a couple more gay podcasters on this list right here. That's not true. No, it's still just all you. No, okay. We're going to edit that part.

I'm not having that. But I feel like we learned a lot about American history. I feel like to learn a little bit about each other. I'm in. I hope the people at home... Yeah. I hope the people at home yeah, maybe discover things

about themselves. Absolutely. We do have a large gay audience. And a big gay host. Check out the rough week podcast, boys. Thank you for having us, Mark. This was wonderful. Yes, on all podcast platforms,

audio, YouTube, Patreon. The whole deal. You know, Patreon, you know, just dip your tone, enjoy the YouTube, enjoy the audio, see what you like. What's on Patreon?

What's on Patreon? You got to want to come back for more. We've got two extra episodes every week. Two extra? Whoa. One five-dollar tier? You get one. That's what you get one?

Ten dollar tier. You get a second one and that's our debate show, gentlemen's duel, where we bring in takes that we know the other one's going to hate and we debate them. It's our version of first take. Can you give me an example of a take that they got Christopter's fucking... Oh, what gets me to live in? What's a take that made you the most mad? I don't know.

I said psychedelics are for humos. And he got really pissed. He didn't like that. I said psychedelics are for gays. I can see that. Dwight Eisenhower was on a head full of acid. He was tagging. I'm fucking peaking right now.

He was a tab. What was the thing you do with Luke? That I pissed him off really bad? Yeah. Dude. Oh, I said Chinese foods better than Italian food. Wow. That sounds crazy, but also a sick take.

So true. I love that. It's unbelievable. And they invented noodles. And then guess what the Italians is. This is what starts. They have been in noodles. This is what Italian food is.

It's different shapes of noodles. Ooh. That's not what it is. You never been to Italy. Yeah, yeah. I've been to Italy. I've been to Italy. You haven't been to Italy.

I have been to Italy. Yeah, when I was 16, I went to Italy. I said, this place fucking sucks. Fucking Goombless everywhere. I said, I wish I was in fucking China. Look, subscribe to the Patreon. That's fucking so disrespectful, dude. Dude, I love...

Me-How. I'm saying you sucking off the Chinese, dude. He sucks off the Chinese so hard. Dude, he's fucking commie pill. He's not commie pill. Dude, you're actually commie pill. All right, guys, seriously, like, we joke around a lot. You're commie glazer.

You're fucking a fascist. You're Italian. You like Mussolini. Yeah, Mussolini made cool facial. This is horsesho. That was another short king. Yeah, dude. Really?

How tall is it? He might have been in Luke's height, 54 or 55. Wow. That is short. 9861, dude. Marfan syndrome. It gets us all. It's running through the Italian community, baby.

Yeah, Mussolini was quite short, I believe. Shout out to my short, King. Well, thank you, gentlemen. I appreciate you. Thanks for having us, dude. It's a wonderful episode. Very fun. Let's do it again soon.

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