Camp Gagnon - Vatican Pope Election Explained | Who Are The Candidates (2025)

Episode Date: May 7, 2025

Who will the next Pope be and how will be chosen? Today, we go through every potential candidate to be the next Pope and we cover the history of the Conclave. WELCOME TO RELIGION CAMP! 🏕️✝️��️✡️🕉️☦️ Religion Camp Merch: https://religion-camp.com🏕️ Get Today In History Email Here (Free): https://camp.beehiiv.com/🎟️ 🎫 Comedy Tour Tickets Here: https://markgagnonlive.comTHANK YOU to Camp fan Sameer Jessani for inviting us into his home to film while we are on the road. 🫶🏼Special Guest: Christophe JeanTime stamps:0:00 Intro2:24 R.I.P. Pope Francis3:20 The Process of The Conclave13:35 Who Can Be The Pope?21:03 Cardinal Pietro Parolin29:41 Cardinal Willem Eijk31:58 Eijk’ Stance On Annulment + Criticism of Pope Francis40:16 The Eucharist + Transubstantiation44:05 Cardinal Erdo46:15 Cardinal Luis Antonio Tagle50:40 Cardinal Robert Sarah54:31 Who Do You Think The Next Pope Will Be?

The Pope is dead. That's right, people. And now it's time for the conclave. This is the process that the Vatican and the appointed cardinals go through in order to find the new Pope. This is going to be happening on May 7th, coming up any day now. And right now I'm on the road. I'm currently in Atlanta. I'm not in my beautiful tent.

So today's going to be a little bit different. We're doing a discussion. So I've invited my good friend Christoph, who's a very, very funny, brilliant comedian that I started comedy with in Orlando. And he's going to be with me. We're going to be having a discussion. Again, you were raised Catholic. Yeah, it was. So he's extremely well qualified for this conversation.

This is going to be perfect. And so today we're going to be going through the history of the conclave, where it came from, why it's done in the very strange, ritualistic, and secretive order that it is. Where all the different cardinals are from, the prospect of popes, we're going to go through their backgrounds, their political histories, what they believe, who the liberal ones are, who the conservative ones are, who likes who, and who is the most likely person to actually get elected as Pope. And finally, we're going to go through everything you need to know.

A to Z. What does it take to actually become the Pope, all the politics at play, all the secret backstabbing, all everything that you need to know will be discussed and more. So without further ado, sit back, relax. And welcome to Religion Camp. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to Camp. We're not in our traditional setup in the tent. Instead, we were in an immaculate Tanzania Palace here in Atlanta, Georgia.

I'm joined by my good friend, Christoph. How are you? Yeah, thank you. I brought this shirt from home. This is my favorite shirt. shirt is that is that exclusive uh that's her mez that's her mez no that's actually a custom shirt that was made by our good friend uh baby diva but what was your what was your name exclusive baby diva i was wearing my good monster truck shirt but they said that what didn't fit the aesthetic yeah

by they you mean hyme wearing a sleeveless new york racket club shirt yeah so cool he's like dude you're your your monster truck shirt's not going to cut it yeah Yeah, dude. We're talking about the Pope. You can't wear a monster truck shirt. Of course. And then, of course, thank you to Gabe and Thomas for making the cams work. And Samir for welcoming us into his beautiful home. Thank you very much. The Pope is dead. Breaking news. I don't know if this is how you wanted to find out, but he is.

I would suck if they just found out. Yeah, dude. Papa Francisco. He's been put on a T-shirt, man. So pour one out for the Argentinian legend. He's gone. And you know what happens when the Pope dies? Conclave. They wait three days to see if you. Emerges from his...

No, they don't. They see if he looks at a shadow and if he does, then it's going to be winter. He died the day after Easter. That's true. So Jesus came back and then he was like, all right, that's good enough for me. Yeah, I'd be like, yeah, we go.

Peace. Yeah, I did my job. But Pope Francis is dead. My mom is... Is she devastated? I asked my mom. I said, oh, is she devastated? Do you know what kind of Catholic my mom is?

A more conservative one? Who's not a big fan of the moderate papacy of Pope Francis? Pope Francis. Pope Francis was like, I think, dogs can go to heaven. And my mom was like, this guy's a heretic. Did he say I think dogs can go to heaven?

Like a little girl, like, as Pope Francis, like, uh, Mr. Francis, my, my,

I'm five years old and my little doggy died. Is he going to go to heaven? And then he was like, maybe. Yeah, well, that's the only answer. My mom was like,

this guy has no spine. He's spines. He's just lying. You have to tell a child that is, that their dog definitely is not going to heaven. So I asked my mom was like, do you think Pope Francis is in heaven? And she said,

no? She said, that's forgotten. Yeah, of course. That's the same answer to Did dogs go to Evan? But I was like, it's a high chance That he's the Pope.

It's a pretty good, if there is one. And she goes, I can't say that. Who knows? Who knows where he is? All I know is that J.D. Vance killed him. He sneezed on him. Yeah. Which like I was saying,

I don't think it's hard to kill the Pope. It seems like the easiest thing to, right? Yeah. What's the assassination attempt? Just like trip him. An air horn? Yeah. Has an airborne at any moment?

It just turns a dust. My mom was like... My mom literally, she was like, I don't know, man, the Pope died after he was calling for like a ceasefire, after he met with J.D. Vance. Like, you think it was an inside thing? I was like, no. They got him.

Massad. I was like, Mom, he's 150 years old. Like, dude, Mossad got the Pope. Yeah, I think he just like swallowed a grape or something. Yeah, exactly. I don't think is hard. The grain of rice went down the wrong tube. But look, now they got to make a new Pope.

They got to make one. Yeah. They have to make the Pope. They've forged it in the fires of Mount Doom. That's what the smoke is. No, now it's time for conclave. All right. And the conclave, this is the process of electing a Pope.

So today, I'm going to go through the entire process of how they elect the Pope, the history of the Conclave, and who some of the contestants are in this year's bachelor. The Pope's number one. Come on the out of the state. They should do it as a game show. They should do it like the dating game where there's like three, you can't see the popes. And they're like behind a little curfers. You can see the little slippers. You can just see their little slippers.

Their hats sticking out. Their hats just stick out over the curtain. I think that'd be sick as hell. It'd be cute as hell. But the way that these, the conclays have been working, it's actually a fairly, fairly recent thing. For the first thousand years of the church's history, from basically like zero from the time that Christ died, like 33,

all the way up to like 1,000. Yeah. It was kind of like the Wild West. They were picking popes all sorts of wild ways. And the like bishops were then chosen. They would pick another person just like the pope that died would elect someone die. But then in 1059, Pope Nicholas II,

restricted the right to elect the Pope to the College of Cardinals, the Vatican City Cardinals. Go, Vatican City Cardinals. Go Cardinals, dude. And this was a group composed of Cardinal, Bishop's, priests, and deacons. And then it was refined again in 1179 when the third Lateran Council made a two-third majority system. And now the modern conclave where the Cardinals are locked in seclusion

until a decision is reached was introduced in 1274. Wow. By Pope Greg. That's early for democracy 1274 they said I mean the Romans had some type of democracy Yeah but I mean still For Pope democracy is pretty good

And they've been doing it the same way since 1274 Lockdown Pope Greg the Pope Greg the X Pope Greg Yeah dude And this was Pope Greg Pope G

Yeah my name is Greg I'm the Pope It's not a Pope name at all But they've done some additional reforms To like ensure secrecy And prevent influence and streamline the voting process and all that stuff. Right.

Did you see Conclave? I did see Conclave. Apparently, they do an extremely accurate job. It's a wonderful film. The internal organs. The internal organs. Both. Yes, exactly.

Yeah. So, one of the big reforms that happened, Pope Greg, in 1621. This is a different Pope. I love Pope Greg. He formalized the requirement for a secret ballot and then reaffirmed the two-thirds, shaping the procedure that is largely followed today. So the rules have been codified and updated, but the core secrecy is the exact. It's the exact same.

So now with like phones and stuff, it's like, hey, no phones. Yeah, no phones. Nothing. Yeah. It's weird to see a cardinal texting. It's like smoking a cigarette. Just on Snapchat?

He's tweeting, like, Concliffe is so shit this year. Catering sucks in the Vatican right now. Food was made it, Concliffe. So here's what happens. The second the Pope dies, the process begins. Yeah. Confirmation of the vacancy by the Camerengo.

There's going to be a lot of Latin today. This is going to be tough. Yeah, strap in. Camer Lango. You went to Catholic school. I did go to Catholic school. So yeah, you're well equipped. I would speak fluent Latin.

Yeah. I went until I was in nine years old. Latin, pig Latin. Pig Latin. And this camera lingo breaks the Pope's fisherman's ring and seal to signify the end of the rain. A few weeks later, Cardinal electors, those under 80 years old, they do have an age limit. The young guys. It is crazy that the Vatican has a, has a, has a,

an age cap. And the presidency is not. Yeah, our president is older than the Pope. Yes. Yeah, yeah. They're like, if you want to run America and control nukes, any age.

If you want to deal kids. Well, they go. Yeah, I guess. That's interesting. When did they impose the 80-year-old limit? Do you know? I mean, probably in like 2004. Yeah, I was going to say.

Because I'm like, I don't think about the presidency. Yeah, it can't be. Yeah. They were all dying of like typhoid whatever the hell. Yeah. They drink bad water.

So those under 80, They gather in Rome. Yeah. So they get the young books out there. And in 2025, there was 135 eligible cardinal electors. Wow. The largest number in history. Wow.

The conclave takes place at the Sistine Chapel. One of the most beautiful chapels. You've been there? No. We should go. Let's go. I'll take you. Let's go.

And we'll go to Hermes after. We'll go to Hermes. I'll get some cool stuff for my horse and then we'll hit the Sistine Chapel. This is an insight joke that I need to tell the people about. What you need to know about Christoph is he's, a class act he's just a country bumpkin i'm not a country bumpkin you guys are all you you you have a bajillion square foot mansion and then i christos is a christos christos christop you put the sunglasses on him christos no christop is just a field mouse you know he's just a field mouse he's just like uh like a home

feels like a euphemism wait for never mind but it's it's this stuff is just a sweet guy with a heart of gold Yeah, dude, my dad did HVAC, all right? He never did none of this old fancy stuff. I didn't know, doesn't know this newfangled book learning and all this. So I said, like, oh, this shirt looks like Urmez or something like that. Yeah, I was literally wearing my good... And Christop goes, what is it Hermes? I didn't say that.

Anyway. You said Hermes. It's not like I read it. So the conclave takes place at the Sistine Chapel, where all outside contact is cut off. Yeah. They put all their phones in yonder bags and say, look, it's time to elect the Pope. And the proceedings begin with a mass. And then the singing of one of my favorite songs, come Holy Spirit.

after which the command Extra ominous is given And only the Cardinals remain Yeah Doom do do Conclave Voting is conducted by a secret ballot Yeah

So first day There might be one round of voting On subsequent days Four votes are held Two in the morning Two in the afternoon Each Cardinal writes the name Of the chosen candidate

On a ballot Disguises his handwriting Fascinating Which is I'm doing wingdings dude. Yeah. How are you disguising your handwriting? You got to hit it lefty.

You got to hit it lefty. Right? Yeah. Or like just like, I don't know, try to write like how your friend writes or something. Just like grip it weird or something. Yeah. Yeah. This just feels like the tribal council of Survivor.

Yes, it does. It's like, you just write it down, look into the cameras, be like, Francis, you try to sell me out. Who's the big guy? Who they think's going to win? Yeah, I'm skipping ahead. We're skipping it. Okay, sorry.

So you got to write it. down. Okay, write it down. On a piece of paper. Okay. I'll disguise my handwriting. This guy's my handwriting. Your handwriting has a tiny mustache.

Yeah. He's just like perfectly disguised. He's wearing a little hat. And then it's ceremonial. Yeah. Francis is like a little hat on it. Yeah, yeah. Like big nose.

I think Francis is pretty cool. You put your own name. You can put your own name. You should be able to. You definitely can vote for yourself. Right. For the papacy, of course. And that's the guy you don't want.

Yeah. Well, that's the whole plot of conclave. I need to watch this movie You gotta watch the clave dude It's good Then they have Something called the scrutinizers Yeah

Or the scrutiniers Scrutoniers The three scrutiners My landlord's a scrutiny That feels racial That feels That feels like My accountant my landlord

Wait a second A bunch of scrutiniers Over here They found a bunch of scrutiners In the tunnels The three scrutiners dude. They count the votes. One.

It's a family show. Two, three, four for me. One for me, one for you. One for me. One for you. And then the ballots are burned after each round. Black smoke signals no decision. White smoke announces a new pope. A victor. The process continues until a candidate receives two-thirds majority.

If a deadlock persists after several days, the rules allow for pauses for prayer and eventually a runoff. Nice. It's a runoff. They do a speech or something. Yeah. I'm putting Mountain Dew in every water fountain.

Like a little kid. Push-up contest, breakdancing. Exactly. They do a runoff between the top two candidates who themselves are not permitted to vote that round. Yeah. So the top two candidates are just sitting there and they're both just like, dude, I hope it's you.

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Get that right now. And peace, be with you. So, once the Canada is elected, the dean of college of cardinals, the dean of the college of cardinals, Ask if he accepts the office. If he does, he chooses a papal name and is dressed in papal vestments. A senior, senior cardinal deacon then says,

Habimus Papum. Do you know what that means? Happy Pope. That's correct. It means we have a Pope. Yeah, that's close. From the balcony of St. Peter's Basilica, the new Pope gives his first blessing to the world.

Wow. Just DJ's it. Yeah. His gets turned to him. What this one's foot? Shout out to his family David Geddes Pope Francis dies

Shout to his family Shout out to his family Bulletproof So How do you become a candidate How do you become a candidate? Is this a quiz? Great question, Christoph

So any baptized male Can become Any baptized Catholic Can become the Pope You? Me? I'm putting my name in now Maybe it's a little late

but I would like to be the Pope I'm a baptized Catholic What would be your first rule as Pope? Have fun Number one rule of being the Pope is have fun Yeah yeah yeah Number two, teamwork Do you see T-Dog?

Number three Still not big on the gay stuff Number five Do you gay stuff just out of your house Just do gay stuff but just like wear a cloak So God can't see it Yeah just be cool about it Do you see what T-Dog posted?

Oh his papal AI Dude, yeah, totally not at all sacrilegious. I don't even think he's baptized Catholic. I don't think he's anything. Well, I mean, I'm sure he grew up when he went to like evangelical church. I don't think he went to one church when he's a kid? Maybe, dude.

I mean, his dad was wheeling and dealing. He was raised by like Jamaican nannies. There's no way. He's Rastafari. He's Rastafari. Actually, I love the Rastafari. We're burning down the herb. Thank you, Miss.

This is Chloe. Big up. To the big island. Big up. Best herb. Okay. So, any baptized male can be Pope. Nice.

But elected popes are typically only cardinals. Yeah. So the days later- Cardinal, like the highest thing next to a Pope? Is that second to Pope? I think there's like substrate of Cardinals. Right. We have like Cardinal.

Number three. Cardinal number three. Cardinal. You can prestige. Yeah, exactly. Like call of duty to the next cardinal level. Exactly. Superior Cardinal. It's fire.

Like Lieutenant. You like unlock the scar. Yeah. Lieutenant Cardinal. Like in Mono Warfare too. Exactly. They have like badges on them. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So fire. So the days leading up to the conclave, there's all the speculation. They're like, who's it going to be? What's going to, what's going to happen? Da da da da da da. Yeah. And these are typically cardinals with significant experience in Vatican administration,

pastoral leadership and diplomatic service. Yeah. Cardinals weigh many factors when choosing a pope. you can think of what the factors would be theological outlook yeah best at covering up certain stories who's the best in moving priests around you know like do you have a connect

an airline yeah administrative skill geographic representation what is that like you've been to the most places don't really even know geographic representation I have genuinely no white guy for the most Catholics are white like oh Italian yeah yeah we need Italian yeah we need a time yeah we need a time back in a bow

We got these Argentinian Bob It's gone on as Sebastian Yeah Have you seen these people Have you seen these popes Imagine the Pope

Getting dressed in the morning He's putting on his hat That's a huge hat Putting on his shoes Put it on your fifth blanket Or something It's hot And then you got to pee

That was They have a little flap Like a Like a onesie I think they have like a chamber made They have a chamber pot They have a help her.

I think they're all have catheters in. No, they must. Yeah. Which underrated. Catherer? Never tried it,

but it seems lit as hell. I've had a catheter before. And? Fun. No, it hurts really bad. Oh, really? Yeah, like,

well, I was under anesthesia when I got to put in, but when I got it taken out, I was wide awake. Damn. Horrible. Who's anesthesia? So,

the process then is super spiritual and shrouded and all the secrecy with the aim of discerning the best leader. So there's all these, the phases. You have the pre-scrutiny. Like we were talking about you have the whole college of all these Cardinals,

dot it up. Then you have the scrutiny where they write all the names, they put all the names into the thing and they burn it. And then the post-scrutiny where they take all the candidates, they burn them up, let the smoke rip. Yeah. Which I'm curious how they make the smoke white or black.

It's some chemical. It's like they put phosphorus in there, whatever. They burned a different herb or something, whatever. Be so stressful. But, you know, it's, yeah, I was so dumb when I was a kid that there was a conclave, I think for Francis. No, it was for, you know, who was the one that was there for like two seconds. Benedict?

Yeah, I think it was B-Dix. B-Dix the 16th, I think it was B-Dix the 16th. Yeah. I remember going, oh, it's when God decides. Like, I thought they put everyone's name into a fireplace and then the color of the smoke would be

God communicating if he wanted them to be the Pope or not. What kind of Hogwarts? I don't know. I was literally on some Hogwarts shit. That's hilarious. So I was like, oh, like it came out black and God doesn't like it when it's black. So he just

picks the color. Yeah, so God just picks the color and they put in Benedict's thing and then you're like, oh, it was white for Benedict, so we got him. I mean, dang. Yeah, that's what I thought. No, that's not how they do it. Yeah, Benedict was pretty fast. He was 2005 to 2013. Yeah, he was gone. Like, I, well, he was the Nazi, wasn't he?

Oh. There was a guy who was like a Nazi. Well, he was like in Hitler youth for sure. That was like a big deal. Rat Singer was enrolled in the Hitler youth. Ratzinger. But according to his personal quote, he said he really hated

it the whole time and it was really weird. So, I guess he's good. I guess he's fine. Yeah. Dude, my mom used to be, this is one of her funniest conspiracy vibes. She was ever on. Uh-huh. Lady Yaga dropped that song, Papa Rotsie.

Uh-huh. And she was like, do you not understand this is a metaphor? I was like, for what? She was like, Papa Rotsie, Papa Ratsinger. No. No way. Yeah. Why would she ever talk about the Pope?

Because it's all connected in a grand conspiracy. It's about being obsessed with a man. I'll follow you until you love me, Papa, Papa, Razzi. Exactly. Papa, Papa Razzi. I don't know.

Look, this is, I was homeschooled. It's a real stretch. I was homeschooled. It's amazing you know as many things as you do. The fact that I'm not just under a bridge somewhere. Yeah, well, or that you just don't say them was unhinged.

We got some candidates, by the way. Okay, hit me. We got Cardinal. Pietro Parolin from Italia. Don't like it. Seven years old. Okay, so he's young.

He's a young guy. He's young buck. Yeah, yeah. He's, you know, green. He's got gangrene. He's like got silver skin or whatever. He served on Pope Francis' Vatican team for 11 years and became a favorite amongst the bookmakers.

The bookmakers is similar to the scrutiny years? Look, how do you? Have your bookmakers talk to my screenings? Yeah, so we'll figure all. My people will talk to your people. Yeah, we'll get it all squared away. And he spent his career in the diplomatic wing of the Holy See. Wow.

I like when they call it that. The Holy See? Yeah. S-E-A? S-E. You never heard that? No, it's the Holy See. The Holy See is just like, my assumption, the, I've always just heard to be like the governing body of like the Catholic Church.

Oh, okay. It is just. It's like the administrative wing. The administrative, like, operating. The day to day. Yes. Yeah. What's his name?

Pee Pistroney. What is it? What is it? Pietro Perolen. Pietro Peroli. Sounds like gasoline. Petro. Yeah.

Petrol pepperoni. Pietro. Yeah. Petro pepperoni. Petro pepperoni. And he made his career in Nigeria and Mexico. I guess that's what they mean by geographical representation. Right.

And he's an Italian, though. He's Italian. There's a lot of, I guess there's a lot of Nigerian Catholics. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know why or who. Well, I can guess why.

But, like, who went down there? Was the French? Jeunisee, pa. I like that. He was made a cardinal in 2014 by Papa Francisco. Yeah. And he's widely regarded as a moderate reformer whose personal beliefs blend support

for progressive reforms with firm adherence to Catholic Orthodoxy. Okay. on some core doctrinal issues. This is so funny when you're like, he's a reformed pope. It's like he's going to move it a nanometer left. It's like we're going to allow gay people

in the state of Italy. Wow, he's a reformist. This guy's a freaking lib. This guy's a huge cub, dude. This guy's so lib cucked out. Right? It's crazy. He was a key architect and a backer of Pope Francis reforms describing them as irreversible

and rooted in the action of the Holy Spirit. Amen, brother. He supports decentralization in synodality. What's synodality? Basically advocating for greater authority and flexibility for local bishops to like perform sign odds. It's so funny. I mean, who could ever care? Right.

It's just like this is the biggest issue in the world. Yeah. It's like synodality and it's like this is affected like six Catholics once. Yes. It's like four Catholics in Argentina are concerned. But don't worry. He's also he's also hard. on the big issues.

On the big gay? He publicly opposed same-sex marriage. That's bad news for you. Wait, why? We'll edit that. In 2015, he called the Irish referendum

legalizing same-sex marriage. He says, quote, I guess he's a little bit softer on it, but he says, quote, this is a defeat for humanity. He said, he's quoted saying, Mama Mia, what the gays are doing in the Ireland.

why did they suck each other penis why? Mama me I hated the gays Why you're like okay Petro pepperon relax I mean just imagine seeing two dudes kiss be like this is a crushing defeat for you man But that's the job dude that's the Pope

That's like you know the big O G's main role It's this main job Like it's really what it feels like It just feels like If you're Pope you're just got to be like Stop being gay, don't kill your kids. Stop being gay.

Stop doing abortion. On God. Yeah. I don't fuck with that gay shit. You know, dead ass? Being hetero, like banging chicks is like, that's a bucket. Like, on the dead homies, for real, I do not fuck with that gay shit. Sign petrol pepperoni.

So he's, yeah, he's been, he's been, you know, pretty hardline on that one. And it expressed reservations about blessing same-sex couples. They said, hey, will you bless the same-sex couple? And he said, no. I have some reservation. Fair enough. Right? I have reservations on almost any couple.

I go, hey, you like my new girlfriend. I go, I have some reservations. Yeah, we're going to, can I just think on it? Can I just think on it? I'm going to pray. I will pray on this. And if there's white smoke, I approve. He upholds traditional teachings on euthanasia and the sanctity of life.

But he's open to discussing clerical celibacy. What? So he's like down for popes to get pussy? He's like, look, no gay shit. Don't kill people. Yeah. But one thing the church could do better is getting some bones. That seems like the most self-centered choice ever.

He's like, I'm open to it. I'm open to discussing like me getting head all time. And then also like a sick new car. There's no one in the Catholic church that like a priest is pretty low. Like a brother. He's a brother below a priest. I think a brother would just be what priests would call each other What about like a Franciscan priest?

Like a friar? Like a friar? I think friars are also priests But they exist with like a different distinction They're in like a fraternity and there's like ping pong Yeah exactly It's like beer pong and like That they make beer that's like their main thing

Yeah they do make beer Yeah I had this old old Belgian beer That's like an original monk thing Yeah It's something trapeist Unbelievably good You gotta try it I'll try it tastes like bananas

She's like roasted bananas And it's like 12% ABV It gets you fucked I don't know I don't know how I feel like a banana beer Well imagine like a roasty cereal banana Like malty cereal banana It's really funny You're just adding more words

You like this guy doesn't understand It's a Belgian quadruple It's what it's called A Belgian quadruple Google Hermes then we'll talk Yeah well I've had a $16 bottle of beer So you're fucking pulled but yeah a a friar is as a member of a religious order okay so i'm just curious that they could get

pissed that's really all i wanted to know the answer i think is gonna be no across the board yeah because we had brothers at our we had we didn't have any brothers but we had some brothers like visiting like they would kind of like visit our school did you have you didn't go to catholic school no i would a presbyterian school wow yeah dude i love you god like that's presbyterian school yes yeah she's like yeah Exactly. Just a guy with a guitar who, I'd say everybody. Yeah.

No, it was, like, they would have, like, different ones coming. We had one room called Brother Dennis, who I really liked. Brother Dennis was the man. He was chill as hell. He was the dude, he would give us Mountain Dew. He would just show up with Mountain Dew. That's sick. Yeah, it was awesome.

But I think deacons can get topped off. Deacons can get a dome? Yeah, because deacons take, like, a religious vocation, but they're not ordained priests. Okay. So that's the highest you can be in Silket Dome. I think so, but that's also kind of like a part-time gig. Yeah, I remember deacons would just come in for church. Exactly.

They weren't like at the church. Exactly. They had like homes and lives. Exactly. Kids and top top. Just getting sucked up. They got crazy sucked. But Perlund's diplomatic approach is pragmatic and wants a dialogue.

He's seen in his role in the Vatican's agreements with countries like China and his advocacy for multilateral solutions to global issues such as migration. What? He's working on migration. What is he talking about migration for? I have no idea. The Vatican is its own country. It's weird to read the Bible and go, I, God, I love this fucking shit.

And then be like, I've got to figure out immigration. Yeah. Huh? So that's basically his gig. He's kind of like a centrist, moderate. He supports some reform, greater openness, but remains cautious. High way, thumbs up or thumbs down for petrol pepperoni. How do we feel about petrol pepperoni?

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or click the link in the description to sign up for today in history. All right, now we have Cardinal Wim Eljchke. L. Edgke. From the Netherlands. How do you spell that? E.I.J.K. Crazy. Dutchman. Itch. Ich. Each.

Yeah, the Dutch have... Bilham. Yeesh. Goofy name. Sounds like it's in reverse. Yich. Wimich from the Leibch. And this dude... He's a 71... Bill Itchy. All right, so this guy from the

Netherlands. If you had a guess, what do you think his whole vibe is? Oh, he's got to be a lib cuck. 71 year old, former medical doctor, widely seen as one of the most conservative. Whoa. 2015, he helped pen the 11 cardinals speak on marriage and family. What is that? Stanchly opposed

Francis' endorsement of civil remarriages in the case of not receiving annulment of the first marriage. Say that again? So basically, if you get married in Catholic Church, you're bound by God. Yeah. Two flesh become one. So he opposed an annulment. inseparable. Francis had an endorsement of civil remarriages in the case of not receiving an annulment.

So you can't be remarried in the church. But you can go get married by the state. And Francis was like, yeah, it's fine. Yeah. I think, well, yeah, the divorce one's crazy. What I mean? Just like having an outlaw on divorce. You just have to get an annulment.

Is that the only deal? I thought you couldn't get divorced. No, if you get an annulment. But an enrollment is kind of a funny thing. It's a loophole, sort of. What is it? An annulment says not that, oh, this marriage is over. It says that the marriage never happened.

Oh, Jesus Christ. Exactly. He's a part of that. I mean, what a ridiculous. So let's say you and I were to get married. They go, so what marriage? Exactly. Like God's going to go, I forget.

Yeah, God was like, hey, good news. You can split up because you were never married. You guys were just having sex out of them. You were just pretending. Pre-marital sex. You were just sitting. You guys were having premarital sex and premarital kids. This makes no sense.

That's how it works. Once, two things are bound by God. They can't be separated. yeah well clearly they can like they could until you look in the records you're like oh this is never bound what a convenient loop

we hate each other and turns out God didn't even think this was a marriage yeah I mean come on we're good come on so like let's say for example you have to be open to life when you're having a Catholic marriage you have to say you meet with your priest

and they say are you both willing to have kids okay you say yes we're both willing to have kids and you get married what you said no then they say we can't marry you in the church Oh, interesting. So then you get married And then you go to your wife

You say, hey, babe, now it's time for me to hit it raw Yeah I need you spread eagle on the bed, stat And if she says no, I don't want to have kids Then you say, wait a second That's not what you said to the priest And then you go back to the priest You say, hey, she doesn't want to have kids now

And he goes, oh, great news She's a liar She's a liar because she's a liar You never got married This is bizarre Welcome to the show So this guy makes an endorsement saying Hey, Papa Francisco, you were out of line.

Uh-huh. You were just, you were overstepping when you were saying that they can get remarried in the state. Yeah, without an element. What's wrong with you? Yeah. He wrote that they are, quote, a form of structured and institutionalized adultery. Wow. He was made a cardinal by Pope B. Dix in 2012.

And he's a staunch defender of the church's teaching on marriage and that it is a lifelong, indissoluble union between a man and a woman. and he's strongly opposed proposals to allow divorce and civilly remarried Catholics to receive communion without an annulment. So you divorce your wife, you can't get communion. Jesus.

That's exactly what communion is. Dude, you may crush it. Yeah, thanks, dude. You've been like so on it. Yeah, sorry, I've been saying the Lord's name in vain. Is that the Lord's name in vain? Well, is it in vain? What does that mean?

It's more of like an intention issue, right? Yeah. So is it? No. There you go. see now you're thinking like a Catholic yeah

see what's going on tricky yeah exactly so he wrote a book in 2012 great he's an author he's on a book

amazing and the book is called the bond of love oh doesn't it sound nice way to say you can never leave her and

71 year old man that's never been with a woman yeah that's the thing that I think some of these guys don't realize is that being married

sometimes sucks yeah of course and sometimes just be crazy. Yeah, they're wiling. You know what I mean? Like women are... They're wilding.

Being married to some chicks is a tough game. Yeah, shit's ass. And this guy doesn't realize that. Yeah. He's over here being like, man, I wish I could get married. No, he isn't. Probably. Maybe sometimes.

He's like, dude, if I could just be married right now, how sick with that beat? Yeah, he thinks it's the best. And so he's like, so you should be married forever, never even think about splitting. Little does he know. He's like, if I had a girlfriend, I'd freaking treat her so fucking guys. I'd never freaking live her.

I hate when fucking people break up with their girlfriends. That's what the whole book is basically. The bond of love. And he basically reiterates that marriage's purpose is both reproductive, unitive,

or unitive, and he insists that reproduction remains essential to the marital act. And this guy's been criticizing Pope Francis for the longest. He's just been a professional hater.

Okay. He wakes up every morning and just a hate on the Pope. Yeah. Kind of sick. You a bitch, though. For real, he's just been calling Pope Francis.

He's been criticizing for not taking a firm stance against the German bishops' proposal to allow some Protestants to receive the Eucharist. That one we can agree. That's insane. Right? Like at Catholic Mass, receive the Eucharist?

Yes, and some Germans. Why are they going to Catholic Mass? Right? You're a Protestant. Go to to... Maybe they're going to a wedding. Maybe their friends getting married. Oh. So they go to the mass. I think you should sit that out. That seems like that's...

It seems like... I'm taking his side of this. But also, the Eucharist could not, it doesn't matter to me. So, like, maybe if you're a very devout Protestant who really thinks it's important to take the Eucharist at someone's wedding, which I can't. Which they don't believe that because it's symbolic to them. Yeah, it is symbolic to them. To some, is it symbolic to all sex of, there's so many. I'm pretty sure only Catholics and Eastern Orthodox.

Right. Believe that the Eucharist actually is the presence of them. But they're not Protestants, really. Not at all. The Eastern Orthodox or the... No, they're basically Catholic. Yeah, they just like have a different kind of government, right? They got bigger beards.

Yeah, they have bigger beards. They're kind of cool. I like the Eastern Orthodox. Their whole vibe. The same is all the branding wise. Russian Orthodox, Greek Orthodox. Serbs. Yeah.

It's kind of different. Yeah. I don't remember how it happened, but they broke off. Yeah. In like, in like, in 12, they broke off. Yeah. Year 12. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. but he he was basically like you know you should have gone harder on this and he said that the Pope's response was completely incomprehensible and then incomprehensible

he says incomprehensible what he says these guys are too into being Catholic I'm going to say it he insists that this is what my mom wanted me to be you think if he got dome one time and he'd go what was I doing as soon as he busted in the craziest postnut clarity ever

where the fuck he's wearing this crazy outfit he's like what the fuck what happened the last 71 years of my life. This is crazy. He's just got his shit slurped one time. Can you get your shit slurped before marriage? No.

Can you get your shit slurped ever? No. Or is it sodomy? I forget. I actually look this up or maybe I talked to someone about it. I can remember, but like if you're a married Catholic. You can get your shit slurped? You can get topped.

But you can't nut. You can't. What is this life? You can get your shit slurped but not nut? What's the point of anything ever? What is the point of any of this shit, man? It's like you can have ice cream, you can't swallow it. Yeah, that's my diet right now, actually.

That's exactly the diet of mine. Do you put ice cream in your mouth and spit it out? Just chew a chocolate bar. Like a high male at the door. Dome and no nut is wild. Dome and no nut. That is the Catholic way. If I was, that would be my first rule as Pope.

You can get slurped up. everyone can get slurped up. To completion? To completion before marriage. Yeah, that's pretty chill. And you can raw a dog before marriage and let one loose. And condoms are cool. But don't even think about touching the Eucharist.

If you're a fucking prox. If you're a Protestant, if you're a Protestant, don't eat. If you're a fucking prod. I have all, everyone has a line. Yeah. If you're crazy. If you're a prod, you better back the fuck up. Yeah.

I mean, do you really think it transforms? Do you think it transfigurates? I think the substance, the spiritual ethics, essence. This is such a Catholic answer. It's such a non-fitting answer. Does it turn into the body of Christ or not? Yes. Literally, you think the cells.

No. Okay, so no. The spirit. The spirit of the Eucharist becomes the body of Christ. What's the difference between that in a fucking metaphor? What is the spirit of your body, dude? The spirit? Yeah. It's fucking having swag. How is you wearing authentic Kanzani and

garb? How would you describe Christoph's spirit. Swag. Like, dude, very Swagg. Very central African.

Like, like pretty, like very African very small. It's a lot about getting pussy and swag and money. Yeah. Smoking weed.

Dunking a basketball. That's what I'm saying. So imagine your spirit got taken away and got trained out with someone else's spirit. You would still be you, but your spirit would be different. When a dog gets possessed, when Annabelle becomes possessed.

Yeah, I know. know this is this is it's it does i guess it implies anabel isn't a demon but the spirit of anabel is a demon i'm just telling what cat is not this isn't spirit like the idea you know it's spirit is literal so like you mean like a ghost like a like a phantom like a ghoul like casper yeah like casper yes but there are no ghosts i know there are ghosts but i know that from logic but but but so you're telling me that the eucharise that a guy goes,

and then because he goes, that because he does that. Daylight come. That lightning, that, whatever. But I'm really read it atheisting this, but I get it.

But still, you think the spirit of Jesus Christ wasn't in the cracker before and now, because he went, that it's literally the soul of Jesus Christ and then you eat it. Yes.

All right. Any other questions? Are you converted? You believe that in your heart. I fully believe that. Do you actually? I mean, I grew up Catholic as a Catholic as my job to believe that. No, no, no, no, no.

Do you mark the rational human being with a brain and a brain stem and a spine? Believe it. I mean, yeah. Like, you kind of have to. You don't have to. I don't. I'm fine. Maybe you don't go to church.

You're not a Catholic. So it's easy for you not to believe it. But I was raised Catholic. Yeah, but you're not a Catholic. That's true. So, of course, you don't believe it. I'm ethnically Catholic. Do I have evidence of this?

Do I, can I support this scientifically? No. Do I choose to believe it because of my faith? Yes. Wow. Do I have any evidence to back it up? It's going to be tough. It's going to be tough to back that up.

If I'm in a court of law and they're like, whose body is this? And I'm like, that's Jesus's body. And they go, oh, well, actually we dissected it under my chair. It's actually a ritz? I would be like... Can they update the cracker? Oh, you mean like someone... I mean the cracker stinks.

Like when Nutella? No. Like maybe some... Like, you know, like an enriched dough like with eggs or butter. It is like water and flour. I mean, it tastes like shit. When was the last time you had the euchrech?

Tell me that. I might have been 15, 14. Yeah, so you don't even have any say. You have no set. The Eucharist tastes like poop. It like dissolves. Can I tell you about a different guy that's about to be...

I feel bad for saying the Eucharist has been. Do you think are people going to get mad of me? Yes. It doesn't taste good. I don't think that's a heretical thing to say. Cardinal Peter Erdo. Oh. Down here.

I don't know why Dwarf Cardone is a huge hat. They don't have any clothes. He still has to wear big clothes. It's so big. It's just so tough. Not down here. I'm sick of a lot. these gay guys.

If you're a Protestant don't take the Eucharist. It's simple. They try to dittle him. He's like, I'm going to talk. Get your hands off of me. So, this guy, Erdo, he was made a cardinal in 2003 by Pope John Paul II. Nice. JP2. He's Hungarian. Wily recognized as a leading

conservative amongst the Catholic hierarchy. Okay. A lot of conservatives. And he's opposed to allowing divorce and remarriage, and he doesn't want them to get communion. He cited of the church doctrine is saying, hey, it's, you can't dissolve it. It's in the books. In the books. He's a conservative and all the things, such as a same-sex marriage, clerical celibacy,

the role of the church and political life. He said that the church must not get involved with problems of the given moment. Facts. That's how I feel. That's good. I like that. That's a bar. Well, because they kind of always were like, let's do our own thing.

The whole point is that we do our own thing. Yeah. I don't care about worldly... I'm not worried about immigration. Like, well, how should we... The tariffs. Let's see what Cardinal, you know, petrol pepperoni feels about the tariffs.

Yeah. That's not the point. So this guy, he has a good relationship with the Hungarian government. And, yeah, he's... He's a Pope Francis hater. He called Pope Francis. He said he's freewheeling Pope Francis.

Is he calling that? Like Bob Dylan? He said he was a freewheeler. a lot of his stances, his political stances, he's just flying by the seat of his papal pants. Sounds like a Trump nickname. Yeah, freewheeling franchise. That's pretty good.

And yeah, he's described as a friendly traditionalist. So far, I don't like any of them. Are you ready for the lib pope? Yeah, ready for the lib pope. Cardinal Luis Antonio Tagli. Mamma Mia. From the Philippines. Oh.

67 years old, and he's known as the quote, not me saying this, someone else that said it, the Asian Pope Francis. Nice. And he's considered the left-leaning political candidate. Okay. Of the Vatican.

And he's been critical of the church's treatment of the LGBT people and divorced and remarried Catholics. It seems like those are like the biggest issues within the Vatican. It's like, are you gay and are you divorced? Yeah. I feel like because they're celibate

and like they're not married. They're obsessed. They're just like, I've chosen my life to do this and you can't even just be married. You can't even be married and you... Hang on a guy? First of all.

2015 interview said the church's severe stance on gay people, divorcees, and single mothers has done harm in its goal of evangelizing. He's in point. He's often described as a leading progressive voice within the Catholic Church, though he himself resists the labels

emphasizing the importance of pastoral sensitivity and dialogue over ideological camps. He's widely recognized for his advocacy see a more welcoming and merciful church specifically towards the gays. Like let them in? Yeah, just go if they want. Yeah, just like, be like, just chill about it, you know?

Yeah, but I mean, if, you're like, you know, I want to peel it back a little, but like, what do you really? He's more concerned about the church's past use of harsh words. Yeah. That's a quote, he said. He said, harsh words for these groups arguing that such language led to their isolation does not reflect the church's mission of mercy and evangelization. Does, but Catholics don't evangelize.

A little bit. Really? I mean, right now. You're trying to get me? Yeah. You're doing a horrific job. What do you mean? This is the most like learned about Catholicism in the last 10 years.

This feels like the book of Mormon. Like, I'm coming to you as Jesus. You are. Coming to me as Jesus? You're a gone and sister. Go tell me more about Jesus. Tell me about him. I want to learn.

But yeah, he's basically like, like for example, Pope Francis, even him. Being like Lib. Uh-huh. Do you remember what he was just saying the F-Word? He dropped F-A-G-G. But the Italian version? No. Dude, it's so funny.

He was calling him like a bunch of stunads or whatever. He's like, oh, he got Finox. He's got a bunch of Finox. He's Fugazi. Yeah. He's he... No, the, the slur is... Apparently people get mad at him and he just, like, is too old to understand the difference.

Oh. But, uh... That's so funny. Frot Gijijian. Frocecine. Frotjecine is an offensive slang term in Italian referring to gay men and gay male culture.

And Pope Francis has... Keep saying it. It just keeps saying it. Yeah, it's probably just what he always called them. Like, he's like, we have to, you know, be nicer to the... Fragio chin. And everyone's like, stop saying it. What? I like them.

They are nice. So this guy, tagle, or taggle. Taggle. One contentious issue is a communion for the divorce and remarried. He says that he's against the one-size-fits-all rule and that he requires that every situation for those who are divorce and remarried is unique

and that the church should address each case individually rather than issuing a blanket statement. That seems fair. Like if you're like, let's say you did your thing where you go, well, actually, she lied and didn't want kids or whatever. It seems like a reasonable. And then the guy can't have communion for the rest of his life if he's a devout Catholic, he'd probably like jump off a bridge or something.

No, then he would get an annulment. But then he could get it. yeah oh never mind yeah you get an old but maybe you're in a marriage that's legitimate but then he's like beating the shit out of you yeah and you're no longer with each other and you're like you can't get that an old you have to both be there technically you might be able to get that in old but I actually don't know the rules on that but maybe in that case he's like yeah just let her get commuted yeah yeah yeah there's a battered woman um he does not advocate for the uh ordination of women or radical changes to priestly celibacy but he supports further discernment and discussion

on these topics. He's trying to get slurped up, all these guys are like, well, I could, let's say I could get slurped up, hypothetically. One way the church could be better. Suction?

Yeah, he's like, he's like the most lived out one. And then we got another guy. This is Jaime's favorite. Cardinal Robert Sarah. Burn and oh, yeah, dude. Robert's hairs come to town.

He's gonna burn. Oh! That's your favorite? This guy is... Robert Sarah. Robert Sarah, he's made quite a stir. Yeah. He's been, like, Twitter's been talking about him

because everyone's like, he's, like, pretty concerned. Where's he from? He's from Guinea. He was born in Guinea in 1945. And he's held several senior Vatican roles. And he was made a cardinal by Ben, in 2010, and his reputation is built. on strong defense of traditional Catholic doctrine

and liturgical practices. Yeah. He's a prominent advocate for the traditional liturgy, the Latin Mass. He likes Latin Mass. That's my boy. He also called for a return to greater reverence and sacredness

and worship, seeing the liturgy as central to the faith. Wait, so why would you do a mass where no one understands what you're saying? Well, typically only the songs are in Latin. And then, like, some of the readings are in Latin, but then all the homilies in English. Oh.

And so the idea is that it's going to preserve the word of God as much as Latin in its original language. Because it's a dead language that never changes. Yeah. So, like, you don't have to change the words, you know what I mean? Like Pope Francis being like, fragor gene. Yeah, that's used to mean something different. Yeah. So he's against gender ideology.

He says that practices like divorce and same-sex marriage lead to a moral crisis. He also said that he's been critical of Pope Francis reforms on liturgical matters, but nonetheless he's been described as a man of prayer and integrity. These guys must have thought the world was on fire their entire lives. Yeah, I mean, just imagine. They can't. I mean, if you think divorce and same-sex marriage lead to moral crisis. And they would be like, look around.

They'd be like, everything's horrible. It's because of divorce and same-sex marriage. Yeah. What about nukes? They're like, can't. What are you talking about? The war in Ukraine. The divorce in Ukraine?

The divorce in Ukraine. Yeah. Well, Ukraine did get a divorce from Russia. And I went during the fall of the Soviet Union. And they need to, they're actually married. Yeah. That's their, that's sacchar synced. Exactly.

He's been outspoken in defense of human rights under a Marxist dictatorship while he was in Guinea. Guinea. And it earned him a reputation for courage. Hell yeah. And he's been described as doctrinal and a liturgical conservative. So it seems like all these guys are conservative. Yeah, they're all conservative. It's not really even a real lib option.

They're not going to put the Filipino lib up. There's no way. Yeah, he's like the Pete Buttigieg of the whole thing. I mean, Pete, well, he's gay. Pete could be a Pope. No, he couldn't. He's baptized Catholic. Yeah, but he's a freaking screaming queen.

Kitch out. But he's a screaming lightning queen. Yeah, yeah, that is a good point. But maybe if he's married. He's married. He's married. Which, according to Catholic isn't a thing. So he's actually not married at all.

They'd be like, you're not married. Wait, so is that the loop? That's the loop. That'd be an epic loop. be a gay married pope and then be like actually i'm married i'm not married at all i'm not married at all i was actually had no clue what you're talking i was fooling around and i made some mistakes yeah i goofed you got to watch conclave dude yeah you'd love the cliff hers lit it's great my mom said that she loved it until the very end at the end you're not gonna like but i mean why i feel like it's like

yeah it's a cool twist it's a fictional tale it's not like it's a documentary they're like no it's not a documentary it's just like a fictional fun tale yeah and what makes it interesting is that the Pope's trans. We just spoiled the conclave. Hermaphroditic or whatever. He's hermaphroditic. But I think that makes it interesting. You got his, yeah,

you got both. You got both to him. I'm trying to think, if you had to put money on one of these, one of these here popes. It's tough to say, I think it's going to be a conservative. It's not going to be Pete Booge.

I think Peter Pepperoni is pretty good. And then I think it's not going to be Robert Sarah because of a particular reason. And. What, you think Italians hold any type of... Yeah, people from Guinea. There's a lot of anti-Genny sentiment. Just the word, Guinea, they find offensive.

I think it'll be... It won't be the North Netherlands guy. I think it'll be... It was either the first one, Peter Peparoni, or there was a different moderate conservative we talked about. It'll be a moderate conservative. Yeah. A sort of Mitt Romney figure.

So Pietro Perolan, he's at 28.6% chance of becoming Pope. He's got the plurality. He's got a decent little chunk right there, dude. Yeah. Louis Antonio Tagli? Mm-hmm. Or Taggle? Taggle?

22.2%. The Filipino Lib is at 22.2. Now, what about our boy, Robert Sarah? I'm going to say 11.6. 11.1. God, I'm good. God damn, I'm good. You ripped that, dude.

Thank you very much. And then Peter Erdo, the hunt. Gary guy, he's at 8.3%. Peter Dink. He's at 8.3%. Nice. So, yeah, given that approximately 80% of the Cardinals were appointed by Pope Francis, there's an expectation that his successor will continue his reformist agenda.

I didn't think about that. Yeah. I didn't think about it. 135 Cardinals. 80% were appointed by Pope Francis. Wow, dude. He really did like a switcheroo. Yeah.

He just appointed a bunch of people. Yeah. That's smart. It's like the Supreme Court. Yeah, literally packed the courts, yeah, he packed the courts. But the betting marketplace, Cardinal Perlin, as the favorite.

The papal elections are inherently unpredictable. And the historical precedents have shown that, you know, unexpected candidates can win all the time. Anyone can be Pope. Anyone. Anyone can be. It's like retitone. Anyone can cook.

Exactly. Anyone can be Pope. So yeah, we're going to see what happens. I think they're going to vote on the 7th. and then we could have an answer by the eighth. Damn, dude. It's not that, it's in a couple days. I'm on the edge of my seat.

I'm on the edge of my papal seat. I like that. Anyway, thank you guys so much for tuning to another episode of Religion Camp. Thanks a million. Please drop a comment below. I'd love to know who you think is going to be the Pope.

Yeah. Let's make this the most liked podcast in history. Let's make it number one in likes. Let's get to 42 million likes. That's a great idea, actually. I can't believe I never thought of that. Let's make this most like By volume, not by percentage

Like literally most number Highest number And then most importantly What did you guys think of Christoph? You're gonna hate me, dude Am I Miles? Am I Milesing? Everyone that comes on

They'd kind of Am I Miles maxing? Yeah, you're Miles maxing big time Oh no But we'll see We'll see Dude Miles when he was going off In the past life regression kids

He's like these dumb Goofy white bitches I would have been horrible On that episode Yeah well we'll see the people think. Maybe they'll love you. I like this. You bring in like a skeptic. Yeah, exactly. That's what we do.

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