Camp Gagnon - Why Certain Religions KILL Children

Episode Date: February 16, 2025

🚨Please Rate the Show 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟From the tears of sacrificed children bringing rain to the New Fire Ceremony's cosmic significance, this episode of Religion Camp we explore one of history's most misunderstood religious practices. We're diving deep into Aztec cosmology to understand why they believed these rituals were necessary for the world's survival. How did the rain god Tlaloc's demands shape their society? What role did the mysterious Mesoamerican ballgame play in their sacrificial traditions? And what did Spanish conquistadors actually witness in Tenochtitlan? From skull masks to the feared Xipe Totec—'The Flayed One'—we're examining the complex beliefs behind these controversial practices. Welcome to Religion CAMP! 🏕️Shoutout to our sponsor: Ground NewsGround News: https://ground.news/gagnon 🏕️ FREE NEWSLETTER HERE: https://camp.beehiiv.com/TIMESTAMP: 0:00 Ideology of Aztec Culture2:03 Aztec Way of Life6:48 Tlaloc Sacrifices12:39 Chalchiuhtlicue Sacrifices16:43 Spanish Writings of Sacrifice22:18 Reasons For Cannibalism22:59 Xipe Totec + The Flayed One26:06 New Fire Ceremony + 52 Year Cycle29:28 Skull Masks32:59 Mesoamerican Ballgame38:51 Peace Be With You

20,000 people a year were sacrificed in some way by the Aztecs. The Aztecs believed that the gods played a part in everything. According to Aztec mythology, the gods had endured immense suffering and even sacrificed themselves to create the world. Telak was particularly worshipped during specific months in the Aztec's solar calendar. To gain his favor and appease him, it required offerings that were a little bit more sinister. The tears of children. As the crops dried up and the threat of famine grew, Aztec priests would declare that Taylock required a sacrifice to quench the thirst for moisture. The children would be led into a process adorned with flowers and garments and celebrated not as victims, but as saviors.

The more the child was scared or terrified that the more pleased Talak would be and thus more generous he would be with his reins. How did these sacrifices actually happen? Why would they eat someone from another tribe? One victim would be chosen and the Aztec priest would remove the heart. So let's find out if that's true. What's up, everybody, and welcome back to Religion Camp. That's right. This is the show where I explain the most interesting, controversial, and mistaken.

stories from all the religions from around the world. That's right. And today, we're going to Central Mesoamerica, I think. I don't even really know what mezzo is. I'm assuming that's just like South West United States, but all the way into Central and South America to talk about the Aztecs and their ancient sacrificial rituals. Now, a couple things before we start. One, there might be a little bit of noise. They're doing some construction nearby. And who knows, maybe that's the Azteg gods telling us to shut up. So if you hear that, pay it no mind. Secondly, when it comes to the Aztecs, it's quite an interesting thing.

I just want to preface this by saying some people have disputed the numbers of Aztec sacrifices for a couple reasons. It's interesting. One, some people believe it's a small minority that the Aztecs never really sacrificed to anyone. No one really believes that, but I've seen that theory floated on the internet. Now, some people believe that the number of people that were sacrificed by the Aztecs and other sort of indigenous Central American civilizations are inflated. Some people believe it was done by the Jesuits and the conquistores that came in trying to paint these people as savages. Other people believe that it was potentially done by the Aztecs themselves as a way to intimidate their enemies, that they were, you know,

fluffing their own numbers, perhaps. So I just want to preface that, that no one really knows the exact number, but we'll talk about a little bit more of that later. So in the world of the Aztecs and many of these Central American, South American tribal groups, they got God's ruled supreme. Yeah. They didn't wear supreme, but they ruled it. And the line between life and death was, you know, it was malleable. Sounds crazy, I know.

I watched the road to El Dorado as a kid, and that's kind of really what inspired this whole thing. It was really a sexual awakening for me. Chell was just an absolute peace. Chris says, you ever saw Chell? That's not Chell Sonny. That's not who I'm talking about. So, now, if you were transported back in time to the heart of the Aztec Empire, aspect of your existence would be woven into this sort of tapestry of divine influence and cosmic balance.

So let's go all the way back, shall we, into our time machine. You wake up, you're in your Adobe home, you're surrounded by the bustling streets of Tenochtitlan, the great Aztec capital, and as you step outside, you're struck with this overwhelming presence of the gods. The Aztecs believe that the gods played a part in everything. the air you breathe, the ground beneath your feet, and even the beating of your own heart. They saw all of these as gifts from the divine. But the gods were distant, despite being all around us and responsible for all of our

existences. There were these unknowable entities that played this active role. And their moods and decisions could mean the difference between, you know, having an amazing city with hundreds of thousands of people and utter destruction and famine and death. So, as a result, you had a terrifying responsibility, basically that all of your actions and the way you behaved as a civilization could lead to the benefit or the destruction of your entire community. Everything from the rain that waters the corn to the sun that nourishes it to the soil that supports it are all under the control of various deities. And people would, you know, whisper a prayer to the rain gods, for example, that plant a lot. to the seeds, hoping that they would bless them with just the amount of right rainfall.

Too little, it's famine for everyone, too much, and it's floods that would destroy everyone that they knew. So, in the Aztec worldview, they had, you know, this concept of a divine debt. This is not just a philosophical idea, you know, in many religions today, we have this idea of, you know, this penance that we have to pay to God. But in that time, it was a tangible thing that shaped their way of living. meal, the safety of their families were seen as gifts from the gods have required of repayment. Yeah, the Aztecs believe that their existence hinged on sort of like this cosmic scale.

Okay? According to Aztec mythology, the gods had endured immense suffering and even sacrificed themselves to create the world, such as the sun god. And also, let me preface this, I don't know how to pronounce most of these words. Okay, I'm going to just kind of do my best. So, the sun god, right here. We're going to pull up the name. That way you guys can try it for yourselves. Nana Watzine. And this guy set himself on fire to bring light to the world. But we can explore the Aztec creation myths some other time. Today we're talking about sacrifice. And, you know, the response to the sun god's death, the Aztecs felt compelled to make their own sacrifices to maintain the sun's orbit, the rains fall, and the earth's fertility.

It's fascinating. I mean, sacrifice has been seen in, you know, many religions from around the world. obviously the ancient Jews in the Bible would do sacrifices. They had to sort of pay a penance, right? As Christians, we see Christ as the ultimate sacrifice for all mankind. So while we look at the Aztecs, we're like, dude, these guys were sacrificing? We should acknowledge that sacrifices exist in many of the Abrahamic religions even until today. So on a grand scale, these massive community ceremonies were conducted atop these giant pyramids that we can still see in Central America today.

They themselves were monumental offerings to the divine. These events could involve, you know, the offerings of goods, animals, and most notably, human beings. Yeah. Every sacrifice, big or small, was considered a literal repayment to the cosmic economy. If you're like me, you probably read a news story and you're like, this is crazy. What is the truth about this? Is this a partisan spin? Is this funded by some media company or some country by their state-sponsored media to

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That's Tealek. He was one of the most feared and powerful deities in the Aztec pantheon. In the creation myth, Teolk ruled the third son. It was associated with Mazatil. This is known as like a deer. He's represented on the seventh day. He's known as the god of the seventh day. His calendar day was nine Osilodal or the Jaguar or the Jaguar for some of my Mexican friends that are watching this.

He was the 8th of the 13th Lords of the Day and the 9th Lord of the Knight with the Eagle as his animal sign. The name Telok derives from the Natul word Tali meaning earth. And, you know, the Auk, obviously meaning something on the surface. Together it means he who makes things sprout. Talok was depicted with four giant jars, each symbolizing a cardinal direction. From the eastern jar, he provided a life-sustaining rain, while the other jars unleashed drought, disease, and frost. Rain was obviously essential to survival without it.

The crops wouldn't grow, and the vegetation would begin to dry up. And in these massive cities that the Aztecs and many of the other groups had built up, you need some corn to be moving. So the Aztecs believed that when it thundered, it was Tayloch, ordering other beings to smash the water jars inside the mountains to cause rain. Who are these other beings? Let's talk about them. We got Talloques, or the rain dwarves, and they lived on the mountains.

These were like little munchkins. That would be, you know, they'd be going around, making a rain on motherfuckers. But they were not gods. They were a group of four representing the cardinal points, and the teloks gathered the water for Teilok, and upon his orders, they broke the jugs. and produced thunder and rain. So the jug of Telak, let's take a look at it, right? At the Aztec capital, two twin temples were set up on the templo-mayr pyramid,

one dedicated to the great god Watsi-Lopachtli. I mean, these names are tough, dude. And, you know, this great god representing the dry season and the other Teilok representing the wet season. The steps inside Tealok's temple were painted blue and white, representing water, and inside the peasant. pyramid offerings have been found that connected back to the sea such as you know coral shells and sea animals. Tayloch also had a mountain temple outside the capital that sat upon over 400 meters on

mount Tayloch. I mean here's a picture that you can see this is like a representation of the two temples atop the pyramid that are just massive. I mean you would walk up to these things and you'd be like what the heck. I mean it's it would be insane to just be kicking it in this city at this time. Tayloch was particularly worshipped during specific months in the Aztec solar calendar. And during this specific time in the calendar, people would offer flowers and they would offer, you know, more, you know, sort of smaller sacrifices. But to gain his favor and appease him, it required offerings that were a little bit more sinister. That's right. Some people have speculated the tears of children. Yeah, it's a little morbid.

The tears of these children were considered favorable, believed to be symbolic of the raindrops of Taylock himself, reflecting his influence. as the rain deity. Astecs believed that they, you know, had these innocent tears and that they were the purest form of water, potent enough to replenish the divine reservoirs that came from the clouds. So as the crops dried up and the threat of famine grew, Aztec priests would declare that Talak required a sacrifice to quench the thirst for moisture. It's one thing to understand that, you know, this is a historical fact, but it's another thing to visualize standing in the Aztec marketplace, looking at your children and wrestling with the notion that their tears could mean the difference between life and death for everyone that you knew. That's the thing that I think to keep in

mind, you know, if these sacrifices occurred at the scale that some people believe, these people wouldn't see these sacrifices as, you know, necessarily, you know, sad. They would see it almost as like a triumph that they were actually helping people to live. It was kind of almost seen as a beautiful thing to do. Wild, right? The rituals dedicated to telioch were intricate and laden with symbolism. So the children chosen for the sacrifice were those who had already, you know, been born and they had, you know, potential signs of, you know, abnormality or illness. And they believed to be, you know, potentially marked by the gods themselves for this type of fate. The children would be led into a process adorned with flowers and garments and celebrated not as victims, but as

saviors. And the culmination of these ceremonies were as dramatic as they were tragic. Some of these kids and, you know, the other men and women that were potentially sacrificed were brought to the edges of a sacred lake or like a mountaintop places thought to be closer to Talox domain in the sky. And they would sort of recite prayers and chants and the tears would be induced potentially through fear or pain or just the overwhelming, you know, nature of the ceremony. And the Aztec belief was a little bit dark, okay? It's literally, this is basically Monsters Inc. This is kind of, I think, where Monsters Inc. came from. the more the child was scared or, you know, terrified that the more pleased Talak would be and thus

more generous he would be with his reins. So the priest would sometimes, you know, try to make sure that the kids cried by any means necessary, you know, trying to scare him. It's a little sad, right? And archaeologists have even found remains of at least 42 children that were sacrificed to Telok at the Great Pyramid of Tenochtelan, many of which had suffered, you know, some type of injury before their death so as to ensure that the reins would come. But this was not the only God that wanted some type of human sacrifice. This is where we meet Chalchi Uttliquay. Chachaly Uckliquay.

This is a tough one, okay? This is also known as she of the jade skirt, according to some myths. I'm just going to call her child chi, okay, because it's a little shorter and way easier for my gringo ass to pronounce. Yes. Apparently, according to this, Chee-Chi once ate the sun in the moon. She's often associated with serpents, as are many of the other Aztec water deities.

And it's thought that her association with water and fertility refers to the Aztec associations of, you know, like the womb and sort of the water, the amniotic fluid that would, you know, be within a woman as she was, you know, carrying a child. So she's often, you know, kind of had like a dual role as both like a life giver, but also a life-ender. So in the creation myth of the five sons, Chee Chee presided over the fourth son

and the fourth creation of the world and believed that she retaliated against Teluk's mistreatment of her by releasing 52 years of rain, causing giant floods which would cause the fourth sun to be destroyed. So then she built a bridge linking heaven to the earth and those that were under her good graces were allowed to traverse it while others were turned into fish. So following the flood, the fifth sun deployed and the fifth sun is the world in which we occupy today.

So in the Aztec culture, Chee-Chi stands as the goddess of the flowing waters and is almost like a counterpart to Teolok, the rain god. She said to influence the rivers and the streams and the lakes shaping the landscape and the life of Aztec civilization. She also played a central role in childbirth. Mothers and babies, oftentimes, as you can imagine throughout history, sometimes died in the process of childbirth. role of the midwife was like the most important job or one of the most important jobs that during labor the midwife literally the woman like you know helping the woman give birth spoke to the newborn and asked the gods that the baby's birth and sure a prime place amongst them so after cutting the umbilical cord the midwife would wash the new baby with customary greetings to chaichi

and then four days after the birth the child was given a second bath and a name now there's this missionary who actually visited the Aztex this guy Bernardino di Sahaguin. And he witnessed one of these childbirth rituals, and he said himself in one of his journals that these two gods who realm in the ninth and tenth heavens have begotten you in this light and brought you to this world full of calamity and pain. Then this, in pain, take this water, which will protect your life in the name of the goddess. It's almost like a baptism in a way.

It's kind of interesting to see that, you know, even in these sort of disparate, you know, separate cultures from a lot of the Abrahamic religions, they still had like this water, purifying ceremony. So as we can see from these beautiful sort of like birth and baptismal stories that children weren't just obviously thought of his sacrifices, that they still obviously valued the beauty of new and innocent life. And the Aztecs understood that they were a divine gift, but they also thought that sometimes the gift needed to be, you know, returned. Sometimes gifts have to come with a receipt. So similar to Taylock, Chee Chee demanded sacrifices, but her focus.

focus was not on the tears, but the life force, rather. The Aztecs believe that by offering the lives of children and sometimes adults to Chechee, they were feeding the rivers and lakes with vital energy, ensuring that these water sources and the rivers remain flourishing and capable of supporting their lives. These rituals took place typically near bodies of water, such as the shores of Lake Texcoco or along the banks of different rivers in the area. And children were, you know, sort of chosen and often adorned. born with blue garments symbolizing water and led through the majestic celebration on the way to

these sites and the believes that, you know, the children as they were sacrificed, that they were then put into the water and that their spirit merged with the rivers, imbuing it with this new life. Now, this isn't already freaking you out enough. How did these sacrifices actually happen? You know, how do you get rid of someone? How do you kill someone that's not seen as vulgar in some way. Well, you can't really. So sometimes these Aztec priests would climb to the top of the mountains or the temples that surrounded the capital with some of the people that had to be sacrificed. And sometimes they would have to remove their hearts or they would kill them by drowning, which again was mentioned to be symbolic of the rain that they were supposed to bring.

And again, some of these sacrifices have actually been witnessed by some of the Spanish explorers that went down there. And again, let me just note that it's possible that some of these accounts by these Spanish explorers might be a little biased, okay? But this is what Bernal Diaz wrote in his work The Conquest of the New Spain. Not a biased title at all, the conquest of New Spain. So I'm sure this will be an even keel take. This is what he said. Every day we saw sacrifices before us three, four or five natives whose hearts were offered to the idols and their blood plastered on the walls and their feet, arms and legs of the victims were oftentimes removed and potentially even eaten, just as in our country we might eat beef from the butcher.

I even believe that they sell it to retain in the markets. So it's not great. And we even have some accounts of an anonymous conquistador who accompanied Hernan Cortez, obviously infamous for his travels in Mexico. He basically says that they would take. take him to the temple where they would dance and carry on joyously, and then the man who's about to be sacrificed dances and carries on with the rest. At length, the man who offers a sacrifice strips him naked and leads him at once to the stairway of the tower where the stone idol is.

Here they stretch him on his back, tying his hands to his sides, fastening his legs, and then comes the sacrificing priest. This is no small office among them, armed with a stone knife that, you know, cuts like steel and, you know, is as big as one of our large. knives he takes the knife puts it into the chest opens it takes the heart out and as quickly as one might cross himself at this point the chief priest of the temple takes it and anoints the mouth of the principal idol with the blood then filling his hand with it he flings it towards the sun and towards some stars if it be night then he anoints the mouth of all the mouth of all the other idols of wooden stone that sprinkles blood on the cornice of the chapel of the principal idol

Afterwards, they burn the heart preserving the ashes as a relic of this great sacrifice, and likewise they burn the body of the sacrifice. But these ashes are kept apart from those of the hearts in different vases. So, yeah, not great. I mean, I wouldn't want that to happen. Again, when I watched Road to Eldorado, they didn't really show all these parts. And as you can see, in some time and some places of some of these Aztec empires, life was wild, clearly.

But these sacrifices weren't, you know, just about. the kids or people. Sometimes men, prisoners, and even, you know, prisoners of war from surrounding tribes. Some of the Spanish explorers even recalled the, you know, cannibalistic nature of some of the people in these communities. Again, there's skepticism around this topic. Some scholars claim that the cannibalism was simply for survival. Some people believe that it didn't even happen at all and it was just sort of exaggerated. And they say this is not, you know, that they were just in some way trying to fill the void potentially. But some have a more mystical approach. Some people suggest that these cannibalistic sacrifices were done on prisoners of other

tribes, which of course, I know some people are staunch that it did happen, but the argument is why. Why would they eat, you know, someone from another tribe? Let's say they weren't starving. You know, they certainly had food around them. They had agrarian societies. And some people think that the depictions of Aztecs eating people for survival were pushed by Spanish explorers trying to tarnish the image. but of course we do have some visuals we have like actual you know etchings and paintings of some of these sacrifices we can see an image of one here now of course you know eating someone isn't a good thing right it's not great it's not ideal so what is the role of cannibalism amongst the aztecs right in a secret CIA facility doctors administered mysterious substances to unwitting americans

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Get your daily dose of mind-bending history, scan the QR code or click the link below to join Today in History. Some people believe that it was done, you know, almost as like a, a real-a-a-a-a-reli-a-report. ritual that, you know, that they would, you know, consume the flesh or a rival tribe. Obviously, it would scare the rivals and that they'd be like, yo, these guys are crazy. We're not going to go to war with them. They're going to literally eat us. And some people within some of these tribal groups that were consuming believe that they would grow stronger by taking the energy of another warrior. And yeah, this is crazy. Apparently it's, you know, proven that in specific places, at specific times, that they would

do this in a way to try to gain their mystical power. power, like an adrenochrome, you can imagine. They would drink the blood of the, of the enemies to gain their power. One specific sacrifice was the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, chipe totech, also known as the the lord of the flayed one. Yeah. It's possible this might be the most, uh, gruesome sacrifice that the Aztecs did. Uh, the gods hold, again, a central place in the, uh, you know, Aztec pantheon, but this one, specifically, Chipe Totec, uh, he was the god of, of, of, of rebirth agriculture in the seasons and craftsmanship. His worship was deeply intertwined with the cycles of renewal and decay and he was depicted as having flayed skin representing the shedding of the old to give way

to the new, almost like a serpent. The primary festival dedicated to Chipe Totech, again, was called after him and it means the flaying of men. You can see an image of him here sort of shedding his skin. The culmination of this big festival occurred at a Chipe Toltec's temple in the heart of the capital. For 40 days prior to the sacrifice, one victim would be chosen from each ward of the city to act as a sacrifice, and they would act as a god. They would dress them up and live as Chipe Toltec until it was time for their sacrifice. When the time came, the victim was taken to an altar, and the Aztec priest once again would remove them. the heart and he would offer it up to the gods after which their bodies were then dismembered

limb by limb. The skin of then the sacrifice victim that was then living as a god prior to this was carefully removed, should we say. Again, this is pretty morbid, but they would literally remove the skin and it would be worn by the priests and other participants basically to embody Chipe Totec himself. Again, this guy was acting as a god and he was sort of paraded almost in this symbolic act. And again, the act of removing the skin was seen as, you know, this new life. It was the ending of the old life. And you're able to dorn the wardrobe of the gods themselves.

You can see here a statue of Chipe Totech looking, you know, he's got his nuts on there and stuff. It seems pretty wild. So, again, a lot of this is kind of put together and speculated, right? No one really knows. No one is really there. And we're just trying to draw. by we, I mean scholars. They're just trying to draw some type of story

to really understand what the power of these gods were and what the importance of these sacrifices were to these people. So following this specific ritual where they're wearing the drape, the skin of a guy that they just sacrificed, you know, one participant

would put on the pieces of the skin and they paraded through the city engaging in symbolic battles and collecting tributes from the citizens and they would all throw tributes in, and these acts, again, reinforced the community's connection with the deity. Again, everyone was a part of this. They were ensuring this agricultural prosperity and this renewal.

And then the body parts were then distributed amongst the elites, potentially for ritual consumption or as a relic of their sacrifice to the gods. Now, again, it's important and interesting to note that many of the Aztecs did these sacrifices as a way to please the gods, and they looked so much at this death and rebirth of life, that they didn't see death necessarily as the end that they thought, you know, these people were going to go on and live with the gods in some type of afterlife. So they weren't necessarily so concerned with the sacrifice in that exact specific moment. And they were, you know, looking at the cyclical nature of life and death. It's interesting to note that a lot of these Mesoamerican cultures had this obsession with the number 52.

They saw, you know, that, you know, Chee, that God I mentioned before, had sent a 52-year flood and that they had this fear that the universe would collapse after a cycle of 52 years if the gods were not. strong enough. So every 52 years, there was a special ceremony performed that they called the new fire ceremony. In preparation for the ceremony, all fires across the empire were extinguished, symbolizing the end of the old cycle. The Aztecs destroyed old household items. They fasted, they performed rituals to cleanse themselves spiritually, and darkness would cover the empire amplifying the tension and the fear awaiting the God's verdict. The ceremony itself took place on the quote, hill of the star. This is a place where the priest would prepare the sacrificial altar. Then again, they would choose a captive. Typically, this was a warrior of great status.

And they offered themselves or sometimes were chosen as an offering for this sacrifice. At the precise alignment of the Pladius constellation, also known as the Seven Sisters, the ritual would begin. The victim was laid on this sacrificial stone, and the priest would use obsidian. that's like a very hard you know like almost like a glass type material that they would form into a blade that then they would remove the heart from the chest while it was still beating and then offer it to the gods

as an act of renewal and gratitude I mean these guys were hardcore dude that's brutal then they would basically you know take a fire like a piece of metal and they would they would get it like super hot and they would place it into the open chest cavity of the sacrificed warrior and the priest then would ignite a fire directly within it. This act symbolized the rebirth of this cosmic energy, some people believe, through this offering. You can see an image here of, you know, some, the fire ceremony and this

sort of, you know, igniting the fire within the hearts of one of their most feared warriors. And this would, again, hopefully sustain the universe for another 52 years. But they didn't just let the body sit there and burn. That would be wasteful. So once the fire was lit, it was then carried to temples, households, across the empire to then ignite the flames that had been extinguished. So they would take it through. And from that same fire, then they would relight the entire city.

This act of spreading the new fire, again, was another symbolic, you know, element to kind of give this rebirth and this continuation of life. And this ritual sort of underscored the Aztec worldview, right? which sacrifice is essential. It's necessary and it's good, and we will nourish the gods and nourish our people. And while the gods required human hearts and blood sometime to sustain the cosmos,

the fire represented this divine connection between humanity and the celestial realm. But as always, there's even more to the story. You can't exactly just cover up all the bodies from the sacrifice. So what do they do with some of these bodies, right? Some of the numbers are so high. what did they do with them? Well, some of those bodies were, you know, they would be eaten ostensibly. Some, what some people believe? Again, I don't know if I necessarily believe that. It seems like crazy that you would do that for, you know, just famine reasons.

But who knows? They would sometimes make, you know, they would dismember the bodies and the priest would then cut away sort of like the some of the fleshy parts and just have the skull. And then they would carve large holes into both sides of the skull. And they would put a, a wooden post through it. And they would build like a rack almost. This is a depiction of this rack of skulls, almost like an abacus. And they would put it in front of the temple of all the sacrificed victims, just sort of, you know, showcase their dedication.

They even would do this with Spanish soldiers, allegedly. This is what some of the Spaniards had said from their captured soldiers that, you know, they would take them and sometimes even their horses, and they would display them in front of the temple. These skulls in this giant rack of heads would stay there for weeks, months, and sometimes even years. Over time, the skulls would then break down, and, you know, members of the tribes would use sort of these skulls that had been sort of eroded through, you know, sun and rain. And, you know, they would take them down and wear them sometimes as masks. And the masks are wild.

I mean, look at some of these. I mean, they look just crazy. And they were even decorated to match whatever ritual was being. worn at that time to represent that specific god. So they would decorate these masks with jewels and other stones from around the area. And yeah, I mean, just look at some of these here. I mean, they're like so ornate. And they believe that they were used as mass just by the way that they were sort of, you know, cut and that some people believe that they have sort of a, almost like, you know, like leather straps behind them that have obviously eroded away. So one researcher

has even pointed out that they found that the skull masks were all made from men between to the ages of like 30 and 45 and that these people had no evidence of, you know, dental disease or other nutritional stress. So oddly enough, they were, you know, potentially, you know, healthy or, you know, of, you know, even supreme health of all the people, right? They live to a good age, 30, 45, old, if you ask me. And some people suggest that, you know, this could be that the skull mass were mostly of the warriors who had been sacrificed. Scholars claim that the mass appeared to have been a special fate reserved for only the most elite warriors and people with notable status.

These people would most likely have had a nutritional diet. They would have had access to food, given that they were, you know, doing the ones that were, you know, doing the hunting and, you know, that they've relied on them for survival. Some historical sources suggest that at least 20,000 people a year were sacrificed in some way by the Aztecs. That's a lot. 20,000 a year. But the accounts of the Spanish explorers claim that during the dedication of the, you know,

the Templal mayor in 1487 that they were 4,000 to 20,000 individuals sacrificed over the span of four days and up to 80,000 a year. Again, some of these numbers may have been inflated, but, you know, if you're saying that the bottom end is, you know, 20,000, I mean, that's an insane amount in a year. So as we can see, these human sacrifices were common in many parts of the Aztec Empire. And then just to end where we began, let's talk a little bit about. about the famous ball game that's noted in, you know, the Rotel Dorado, which began my sort of interest in this. I've always been told as a kid that after the end of this sort of like hoop and ball game

that they would play, that the winning team was actually the ones that were sacrificed, and it was seen as a great honor. So let's find out if that's true. So this Mesoamerican ball game is fascinating. Again, it's depicted in the Rotel Dorado, obviously a great historical documentary. And this was a sport with ritual associations to be played out at least something. people put it at 1600 BC, pre-C. Pre-C.-Columbian game of the people of ancient Mesoamerica. The sport had some different versions in different places during the millennia, and a modernized

version of the game, Ulama is still played by the indigenous populations in some places. The rules of this game were not really known, but judging by its descendants, the Ulama. It was probably similar to, like, racquetball, where the game was basically, you know, you had to keep the ball in play. and this stone, you know, ball court goals were some people believe a late addition to the game. And the most common theory of the game is that the players struck the ball with their hips, you know, if you remember, the hip. Although some versions allowed them to use forearms, rackets, bats, or even handstones. The ball was made of like this solid rubber and weighed as much as nine pounds, although, obviously, the size of the ball differed over time and place.

And the game had a ton of ritual aspects. The most, you know, major formal games were seen as really. ritual events. Late in the history of the game, some cultures associated that they had this combined competition of sport, war, but also religious human sacrifice. The sport was also played casually for recreation by children and maybe was even played by women as well. So the association with human sacrifice and these ball games appear a little bit later in the archaeological record, no earlier than sort of the classical era. So the association. So the association, The conversation was particularly strong within classical Veracruz and the Mayan cultures,

where the most explicit depictions of human sacrifice have been seen on ball court panels. You know, they would show sometimes decapitated ballplayers from the Veracruz sites. And even in the post-classical Maya religions and sort of the quasi-historical narratives, they also link human sacrifice to the games. The captives were also, you know, often shown in Mayan art. and it was assumed that these captives were sacrificed after losing a rigged ritual ballgame in this one specific depiction. You know, rather than nearly nude and sometimes battered captives, the ball court at El Tachin and Chechen Itza showed the sacrifice of practical ballplayers, perhaps the captain of the team. Decapitation is particularly associated with the ballgame.

Severed heads are featured in much of the late classical ballgame art and appear repeatedly in, many of the temples and ball courts surrounding the area. There's also been speculations that the heads and the skulls were used as the balls. Yeah. Some people even believe that's like an early version of soccer. Imagine that. It's interesting because the games also had this religious element in it. Some people and scholars believe that there's like an astronomy associated with it.

The bouncing ball represented the sun. The stone scoring rings were, you know, supposed to signify the sunrise and the sunset with the equinoxes. There's a very clear connection with war. We even see that to this day with different sports that the most obvious symbolic aspect was a proxy for warfare. Among the Mayas, the ball represented the vanquished enemy, both in a lot of late classical kingdoms, such as Yakschilan. Other people believe that it was associated with fertility and that formative period ballplayer figurines, most likely females, often wear maze icons, which again is associated with fertility and life. And the ballplayer's sacrifice ensured the renewal of what they call

Polké, an alcoholic beverage. And there's also seen this cosmic duality. The game has this struggle between day and night or a battle of life in the underworld. The courts were considered portals to the underworld and were built on key locations within central ceremonial precincts. So there you have it. It should be noted that there's very little evidence to support the idea that the winners of these ball games were the ones that were actually sacrificed that typically in most of the icons and depictions around these ball courts and even the temples, that it was typically the losers. And, you know, according to some scholars that in the specific, you know, ritual elements of the games where the games were very high stakes,

you know, in the ritual context, the losers were then sacrificed sometimes through decapitation immediately thereafter. So again, it's not exactly perfectly clear. Some people, you know, obviously these ball courts are very real. and we've seen people playing these games through many parts of Mesoamerica and Central America. And obviously, human sacrifice was seen and understood to have existed. And it's not perfectly clear that the two were associated, although we have seen depictions that after losing the games, the losers would be decapitated. Some people say this is purely a symbol of what it means to be a loser.

And that by losing the games, you know, they would, you know, have lost honor or something to that effect. It's also worth noting that many kings and rulers of some of these areas, they would also play the games for fun. And we have records that even the kings that would lose these games, they would still live on. So perhaps they were immune from the punishment. It was just the captain of the team that was taken out. So it's pretty high stakes game. You can imagine that, right? Imagine at the end of the Super Bowl, they just went out and took them to pasture.

It was pretty wild, if you can imagine. So there you have it, folks. That is a brief sort of overview of some of the sacrificial and rink. ritual properties of the ancient Aztec and, you know, some of the other Meso-American tribal groups in that time in history. I mean, it's pretty brutal, right? Like, you read about this, you're like, oh, man, you got to sacrifice kids. That's tough. But we see that in the Bible, right? Like, you know, Abraham had to go sacrifice Isaac. And then he didn't have to. He had, you killed a ram instead, which is, but, you know, there's plenty of child sacrifice that occurs in the Bible, right? There's,

you know, killing of the firstborn and, you know, the destruction. And, you know, the destruction. the angel destroyer coming through and killing all those during Passover. So it's, you know, we can look at some of these Aztec stories and say, wow, these people were barbarians. But I think it's worth noting that sacrifice is tied with almost every culture and almost every religion from around the world. So, I mean, once you see the depictions, you're like, oh, that's pretty brutal. But I don't know if there's a way to sacrifice someone in a non-brutal way. But let me know what you think. I'm curious.

If you were an expert in Mesoamerican history, I'm curious that what did I miss? what's missing in sort of this explanation. And what do you think? I mean, some people, obviously, some of my conspiracy folks are like, dude, there's sacrifices going on today. The elites are sacrificing. I don't know if that's true. We got to, I got to see more evidence of that.

I mean, I've seen eyes wide shut and some people say that's what was cut out of there. But anyway, I'm curious what you all think. But as always, this has been an episode of Religion Camp. Thank you so much for tuning in. And as always, this has happened every Sunday. All right? I'll see you there. Peace be with you.

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