Cinepals - AGATHA ALL ALONG Episodes 1 & 2 Reaction & Review!

Episode Date: October 7, 2024

The witch is back! After the events that took place during "WandaVision" & "Doctor Strange 2," Agatha Harkness has been released from the Scarlet Witch's spell and sets out to recruit former unwelcoming allies so she can reclaim her powers. Agatha All Along stars Kathryn Hahn (Transparent, Spider-Man: Across The Spider-Verse), Aubrey Plaza (Parks and Recreation, Ingrid Goes West), Patti LuPone (Beau Is Afraid. Steven Universe), Sasheer Zamata (Home Economics, Woke), Ali Ahn (Anya), Debra Jo Rupp (That '70s Show) & Joe Locke (Heartstopper) Watch our cutdown reaction on Youtube at https://youtu.be/IeTvl6sun88 or become a Patron and watch the full episode along with us https://www.cinejump.com ~CINEPALS~ YouTube: @CinePals Insta: https://instagram.com/TheCinePals Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheCinePals

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I like us all along. Episodes 1 and 2. Thanks so much for joining us. Let's do it. Here we go. Hey, babe. What? Deveo.

That's what she said to her before, but I don't know what it means. Yeah. Let's deal with you. You were saying some words. What's up? You. They ended the first episode, yep. Oh.

Well, that was cool. Well, I totally get why they... Oh, that's fun. I got the little Bewitched logo. Yeah. I totally get why they're having a two-part premiere, because at the end of this, I'm like, okay, I need to know more now, and I'm glad that we've got the second episode coming up right away.

You didn't feel like that was like a whole pilot episode that was very contained and self-satisfying? Are you being facetious? That that covered all the bases necessary. Okay. No, I disagree They do this a lot They do, they do, because they know how they want to present it, right? In the beginning, it kind of took its time with getting situated

And I caught myself feeling like, okay, but I know, okay, just like, move it on, please. Like, I know what's going to happen, like, can we just move ahead with this? It was satisfying when Aubrey Plaza's character reveals herself and, like, you know, all the witchy stuff starts happening. And then I was like, all right, now I'm getting really interested. I liked Aubrey Plaza a lot. Yeah. Everything Aubrey Plaza did, I enjoyed.

I understood what they were going for in terms of kind of leading you in with this subversive thing. Or it's like, oh, it's this over here. And then, oh, it's like, Kiroo. And then, but, you know, I feel like they needed to commit more authentically to the performance of whatever that show would be. Sure. Because she kept kind of doing a sort of tongue and chink, wink, wink at the audience, sort of in her vibe, in her acting.

It didn't feel as committed as Aubrey Plaza's acting, which, like, in both instances felt genuine, you know. Aubrey Plaza as the mysterious sort of, like, is she seducing her? Is she just being a boss lady? Whatever that vibe is when she came into her office, I bought it. And it was greatly helped, unfortunately, by, I forgot the name of the actress who plays Agatha. Catherine Hahn. Catherine Hahn. And, you know, her acting is like the opposite.

It felt very played up. Right. Like, ah, we're doing this show. And it's like, Aubrey Plaza was taking it seriously. But that's what made me intrigued. I was like, oh, it would have been cool if they, like, really leaned in hard to that sort of vibe and attitude. And just kind of sprinkle in these clues of, like, something's just slightly off. And the character's discovering it.

Like, we obviously have the omnipotent sort of perspective on things because we came from the other show. And we know that. She doesn't at that moment. I think there's a way they could have navigated it where you were sort of intrigued. and excited for her rather than feeling impatient. I got really excited when I saw Aubrey Plaza show up. Yeah. I thought that was cool and I wasn't sure exactly where that was going.

And then to see Aubrey Plaza switch into the... Which mode. I thought that was dope. I liked her. I thought that was cool. I was really thrown by that whole chase sequence on foot. Like, it did not look right. Like, it just didn't look right to me.

You know, when she's like running out the window and everything like that, it just felt really slow. And I'm like, See, that's why when you watch Taken part four or whatever it is with Liam Neeson, there's like 82 cuts as he hops over a fence because they're trying to give it a sense of momentum. This lacked a sense of momentum when she was trying to get out the window. I don't know what's the better between that and Liam Neeson and taken part eight. You know what I mean?

Like, it just was like weird? And then she's hanging off the, what was it called the guardrail? The drain. Yeah, the whatever that's called. The gutter. The leaf thingy. That. Yeah.

She's hanging off of it. I'm like, woman. It's not that far. There is maybe like an inch beneath your feet before you touch grass. Just like, oh. And then she, like, flopped all over the place. I'm like, is this comedy? I'm confused.

Like, is it supposed to be funny? Because it looked funny to me. It looked painful to me. It was funny, but not funny enough that I was laughing out loud. It was just kind of, like, amusing. The whole sequence happened where the little, the young guy was, like, saying all the... The incantation. Yeah, that.

And then the room is changing around her. I thought that was neat, you know? I thought that was cool as a moment. And then her reveal of, to, herself with Scarlet Witch and like the different outfits, I thought was neat. I think the lead up could have just been better executed. Yeah. I think I think that's the one thing that I'm kind of like, ah, you know?

Like, it would have been nice if I had felt like I really enjoyed that part a bit more. But I definitely found myself enjoying it more once the witchiness happened. And I think that's like, that's just what I'm really looking forward to in this show overall is just like, how witchy can we make it? Because, like, I love witches. Oh, I didn't know that. I love all of that stuff. And, like, I have ever since I was a little girl.

So, this is exciting to see, you know. Like, I want to see how they kind of get along or don't. And the type of magic that they're going to use going forward and all of that. So I'm definitely curious now that we've reached the end of episode one. And so I'm glad that we can jump right into episode two. Yeah. I think that it was deliberate in its execution. of walking you through all that

because you needed to know where she's been the last three years. Of course, of course, yeah. So I understand its purpose. It's just that the way it went about it was like, it wasn't quite funny and it wasn't quite serious. It was this weird in-between thing that just wasn't working for me.

And so when Aubrey Plaza showed up, not to beat a dead horse, she was taking it serious. I'm like, that's the tone. I feel like you should have been doing this whole time. Whatever she's doing there is so effective and it's so intriguing. I'm like, where's that going?

And, but like, I can't tell, and that's to be revealed later in later episodes, although she licked her hand. So I couldn't tell if there was, like, a sexual element to the whole thing. If, you know what I mean? Because they're like, that's not what I'm here for? I'm like, what you're here for that? Yeah, because she does exude a sort of, like, sexual power. Yeah. And so a part of me is going, no, Chabby, no.

This is you and your wishful thing. You were wrong on House of the Dragon. But I was wrong on House of the Dragon. So, like, I don't have confidence anymore. And she licked her hand. She did lick her hand. I've never licked any of my friend's hands. So.

Well, that's not true. Whose hand have I licked? I looked at my own hand when I said that. I was just being facetious. I was being stupid. So anyway, that was hilarious, Gabby. The joke definitely landed. Yeah, moving on.

I'll never speak of that again. Episode two, here we go. I never doubted us for a second. Whatever, you're a bitch. It kind of feels like the Wizard of Oz as well because of the shoes, you know? I'm loving all of the witchy references. Wizard of Oz.

How'd you get that? Because Dorothy gets the witch's shoes, right? And when she clicks them, she can go home. Oh, I forgot about that. Yeah. I thought those were just Dorothy's shoes. No, they weren't her shoes. Okay, gotcha.

Yeah, she got them from the wicked witch when she, like, killed her. And then Glinda the Good Witch gave them to her. Am I, like, messing up my Wizard of Oz lore? I don't know. Anyway, about this, how'd you feel? I really enjoyed it. But like I said, like, I really like witchy stuff. So, like, I was getting well into it.

And it makes me... You're right. There is a Wizard of Oz reference. there. I thought that was a Wizard of Oz reference last time I saw this, but I couldn't, I'm like, why would that be the case? Now, you said that it makes more sense. Well, yeah, I mean, I think that they're just having a lot of fun with all of the, the witchy stuff, you know? And so it's a real hoot for me, because I really enjoy just like the genre, the references and stuff like that. It's also fun as well, because, like, it's a coven of witches, right? And it's a bunch of

women and what happens when you get a bunch of women together? You know, sometimes like the claws come out, the bitchiness comes out. But then I imagine that as we go further along in the journey, probably more of the sisterhood is going to come out. So I think it's a really fun set up that they're giving us here with like the different characters and the roles that they have to play, right? Like it's cool because they're telling us the rules, which I always really enjoy in any sort of like genre movie, you know, like when it comes to vampires, there's a certain set of rules with werewolves. There's a certain set of rules. And so here it's like, oh, you need to have a coven, but you need to have all of the different aspects of magic represented in order

to be able to walk the road. And also, we're getting a bunch of information as well about Agatha and what she did in the past, which I find very fascinating, you know, like she was a real bitch and she stole people She did a lot of really awful things, and so it totally makes sense as to why these other witches are kind of apprehensive, but I suppose the pull of the road is so strong that they're all kind of like, all right, we'll go along with you, Agatha, even though we know that you're potentially super dangerous and that you're probably going to backstab us along the way, which is interesting that she gave the, I don't forget her name, but the divination witch, the special info about like, so long as you don't blast me, I can't take your power. But I wonder if that's

just like, you know, sometimes you give someone a small tidbit in order to gain their trust, but there must be something else that she's holding back on. Well, I didn't anticipate that she was lowering them in there and doing the whole thing just to, or maybe she had two things at once in her head, but I didn't anticipate that she was just trying to bait them into giving her their powers. No, but I guess that was like a plan B if the road didn't work,

which makes me wonder as well, right? Because like I was saying, with spells and stuff, I imagine that you need to have all of the components correctly so in order to make the spells work. And so perhaps Mrs. Hart has a little bit bit of witchiness in herself because you know they needed an earth witch and she's clearly someone who's very good

at gardening and stuff so maybe she has just like the smallest spark of magic necessary in order to be able to open the gate naturally within? Yeah yeah we all do that's the magic so is that the reason why Aubrey Plaza was using a knife on

Agatha instead of like any other powers oh maybe she knew that if she like blasted her she could steal her power What constitutes is blasting? Is it like a projectile thing? Projecting magic. Okay. So wielding her like the force doesn't count.

I guess not. Yeah, I don't know. Okay. I guess not. Because at one point I think Aubrey Plaza did that. Sure. You know? Yeah, I think it probably requires using your magic in a blast type of...

Like a hadukin. Yeah, like a herducan with some fireworks. Okay. Like Jubilee. Gotcha. Yeah. That makes more sense. Sorry.

Yeah. So, I don't know. I'm excited. I'm definitely curious. And I think it's also really fun because it's going to be leading all the way up and right into spooky season. Sure. It feels really fun and Halloween.

And those, whatever they were, those scary witches that came at the end, I thought they were actually quite scary. But like in a fun way, not like I'm going to have nightmares about them scary. But they definitely made me jump a little bit. And the way that they were moving. was really fun as well. Yeah, it was cool. I mean, that definitely plays into the trope of like a scary horror type thing.

Yeah. Because I'm like, I'm looking at them. I'm like, why aren't y'all like, you know, hauling ass like 28 days later? Like, why are you taking your sweet time with all the like zombie dancing? Because they're old. But like, yeah, well, no, it's just, that's the monster trope. It's like, you know, they'd come in the way they want to come in. Exactly.

So, but it seemed that Agatha, even herself, was surprised that the spell worked at the end. Like, she didn't realize that the doors were going. going to be there. Yeah. I think it was just one of those things where it was like, it's a Hail Mary, you know? Sure. Like the whole situation with finding these has been witches, as it were. Sure.

And then having it actually work out, you're like, oh, this is actually, like, working out better than I thought. Well, shouldn't there be, like, a stronger amount of confidence from Agatha, given that, like, there was that little prediction thing on a piece of paper with all the names? And, like, how does she hope to win? I don't really know the rules because to me, without having Aubrey Plaza, how can she possibly

expect to find victory? You know what I mean? Yeah, I... Because if the thing is like, you do this here, you get this here. I don't know. I'm not familiar with this road, but from what the show is telling us, it seems like it's one of those things that you have to journey

on, right? And it's going to be perilous. And if you make it to the end, then you get a reward. Okay. So I guess That's the adventure, right? Seems pretty straightforward. Sure, sure. Just stay on the path and hope that you survive.

I guess you're right in that the gardening aspect will be earthy and help out. Yeah, who knows? Who knows? It was fun, though. And I really like that they have this kind of goofy character on their journey. Because, I mean, while the teen, he is kind of like us in a way, because he doesn't have those powers and he's not a witch himself.

Although I think he probably has something. There's something special about him for sure. Okay. Right? I think it's fun to have a character like Mrs. Hart who really is the fish out of water like, you know, like us, as if we were in that situation and we're like, okay, we don't really understand what's going on.

But we're going to go with it because it seems like a fun time, you know? Yeah. She's cool. I really like her. That's cool. I know. I know this isn't really.

your tempo, but I'm having a blast. I kind of wish that the first two episodes was really just the first episode. Yeah. And then episode two, you know, you're into the thick of it. Because it almost feels like they're cheating. You know what I mean? It's like, no, no, that was one episode. Now you got five left you're supposed to be doing, but instead we got four.

You know what I mean? I think there's nine actually in total. Oh, okay. Well, I still felt like whatever, you just move the numbers, move the, goalpost a little bit. I'm just saying that was one episode. Sure. You know what I mean? Yeah. I enjoyed episode two a lot more than I did episode one because like now we're in the witchiness. Sure. But I suppose we did need the first episode to set the structure. And I suppose as well that they wanted to kind of do a little tongue-in-cheek thing where they were connecting it to one

division, not just in the continuation of the story, but also as like a continuation. of the style, which, I mean, honestly, not that necessary, but cute, I guess. No, well, they only did it for the first episode. Yeah, for the first episode. And then it just does that's a thing. But I think it was done, like, as an homage. I didn't need that, but it was cool. Like, I felt like all of that could have been the first three minutes of the show,

and I would have been content. Right. You know, let's get into the Aubrey Plaza stuff faster. That would have been my thing. But anyway, it's fine. It's done. So, you liked it, and that's what counts. It's fun.

It's cute. You're enjoying it. I am enjoying it. I'm curious as to see, you know, they left you on a good cliffhanger there. It's like, where does that go? What is the road? There's a lot of mystery built around that. And they did a good enough job with it visually that it's like, it is definitely intriguing

because my immediate comparison is Echo, right? Because Echo was the follow up to Hawkeye, so to speak, right? And so Hawkeye, I enjoyed quite a bit. And so to go into Echo, I'm like, this feels quite low budge, you know? comparatively. And it's like, well, you're dealing with people who are not as famous, I guess, and the character that's not as well known. And you're still trying to tell this story, but there's just not a lot of, the same budget is not allotted. And so they're trying to make it work with a smaller budget, but it's like it's hurting itself, in my opinion, right? And so here, as a follow-up to Wanda Vision,

I was actually surprised to see it looking at the quality that it is compared against Echo. I guess they've learned their lesson in that way. So that's cool. And additionally, while I was frustrated that, you know, episode one was what it wasn't, I really feel like this should have been just one episode and they could have cut down whatever, whatever. Yeah. It still feels like you got, it's not cliff notes is the short of what I'm trying to say. Which is a complaint that you often have.

Yeah. Well, that's what I'm driving at is that oftentimes when I watch a Disney Plus show, it feels like cliff notes. And it's like for a while, it seemed like we're getting away from it. In particular with like Andor, it felt like we were getting like full proper episodes. And here it's like, okay, you know, well, I'm not, like, loving it. Like, you are, at least we're getting, like, a full proper thing. And so that's cool, you know. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I would be like, oh, my God, I'm loving it.

I'm definitely enjoying it. I, the only characters I've really liked so far, though, are Aubrey Plaza and Mrs. Davis. Oh, Mrs. Sharon Davis Hart. Yeah. Those are the two characters that I've enjoyed. Everyone else is like, okay, it's fine. You know what I mean? Like, I don't, I don't hate them.

I just don't care. Like, immediately I care. And maybe it's just because I used to watch that 70s show. But, like, that character is, like, instantly, she's so likable. Right. Yeah. Both of them. Instantly, there's something fun about them.

And I enjoy them quite a bit. But I'm sure that lots of people will disagree with me in the comments, that everybody else in the cast is amazing. And I apologize for having an opinion. But those two are the ones that are standing out from them. Well, yeah. And I think it's just because also their characters are really full. fun. They're very well defined and out there. Yeah. And so it's easy as a viewer to be like, oh, I like the goofy old lady.

Yeah. You know? Or like I like the really cool, scary witch, sexy Aubrey Plaza. Well, yeah, sure. But like the goofy old lady, like even just her looking in confusion was so entertaining. Right. For a variety of reasons. You know, like she's just really, really good. Yeah. And so she just, I don't know what it is. Her presence is, like you said, it's quite welcome. I was perplexed as to. to why they weren't asking what's her deal? Because when the other witches met each other,

immediately like, high priestess and whatever, whatever, and then doing the whole profile breakdown. Yeah, the whole high priestess thing, I was a little bit like, oh, is it because she was a high priestess in a coven? Or is it because that witch, because she has the power of divination, and she also, I don't expect you to know this

because, you know, you're not like into witchy things as much as I am. Hang around you. She mentioned the three of pentacles when she gave the piece of paper, right? And that's a tarot card, the three of pentacles. I forget what it means exactly. But also, high priestess, that is a tarot card. So I'm like, all right, what does that mean in the grand scheme things?

I'm not sure. So all I'm saying is... I'm a useless witch. Why didn't they interrogate old lady Shannon Davis's heart? or whatever her name is. Sharon? Yeah, Sharon, why didn't they talk to her and be like... I don't know.

It is a little bit of like... We just skip past that conveniently. Yeah, like a convenient plot hole, I suppose, that they weren't like, how can we don't know you? Are you a new witch? Like, they seem to all know each other. They immediately started, like, cattily, like,

clawing at each other with the divination, whatever, it didn't pan out. They were attacking each other. And I'm like, no one's pointing fingers at the lady who does not belong. Who didn't sing? Yeah, like, that's so bizarre to me. Like, you know when someone's not singing.

If everyone's singing, you look around, you're like, you don't know the words. I don't hear anything. I don't hear a harmony. I don't hear a melody. I hear nothing. But, like, again, like, kind of goes back to the conversation we had about episode one, which is, like, what is the tone exactly?

Because, like, that's my first question is, like, she's obviously the part of the issue. You're the problem. Yeah. Like, how is that not? I have less faith in the intelligence of all the characters that is not Agatha because they don't know

to look at the garden lady and go, what's her deal? Like, okay, now all of you are way, you're just not as smart to me now. Right. And that's a problem. Right. Unless that's the tone of the show.

You know what I mean? Like, that's what I'm saying. It's like, I'm a little bit confused as to what the goal, I might be overthinking it. But like, but like, you know, when I see a character do something dumb, I have less confidence in them.

And I think that's an important thing to remark about. Sure. You know what I mean? Sure. So that's all I'm saying. It's like, how do you, how do you trust any of them now?

Easily Agatha is going to take them for bad. Oh, yeah. We know that, right? They're so dumb. It's Agatha, but maybe there's hope that when she walks down this road, she'll realize that she needs the power of a coven, she needs sisterhood, and she won't betray them. Well, that would be different.

That was going to be my question to you is, what are we hoping for? Because she was the villain of Wanda Vision. Right. So what is, what are we? hoping for. You know, like, when you watch something like, I guess, Maleficent, right? I guess your hope is that, oh, she turns out to be good, I guess.

Right. All right. I don't know. Instead, you turn out, like, oh, I understand where she's coming from a little bit better, and she's not really that. She's not bad. But here, I don't know, because it's either she's going to get her powers back and she's going to be a formidable enemy again.

That could be fun. or she does the thing where she, like, redeems herself at the end of the road. Or they do something completely different, and I haven't realized what that is yet. Well, this was fun, y'all be good. Is that it? You guys, thanks so much on Jabby Kuwait. This is. Achara cook.

Peace out.