Cinepals - BAD BOYS: RIDE OR DIE Reaction & Review!

Episode Date: July 25, 2024

Jaby and Achara watch "Bad Boys: Ride or Die" for the first time! Bad Boys 4 follows our beloved Miami cop duo Mike Lowrey and Marcus Burnett however this time, they are the ones on the run!  Bad Boys Ride or Die stars Will Smith (Independence Day, Men In Black, I Am Legend), Martin Lawrence (Martin, Big Momma's House), Vanessa Hudgens (High School Musical, Springbreakers), Alexander Ludwig (Vikings, Lone Survivor, The Hunger Games), Paola Núñez (The Purge, Resident Evil), Eric Dane (Grey's Anatomy, X-Men: The Last Stand) and Ioan Grufford (Fantastic Four, Titanic, King Arthur). Watch our cutdown reaction on YouTube at https://YouTube.com/@Cinepals or watch the full reaction on Patreon at https://Patreon.com/JabyKoay SOCIAL MEDIA ~CINEPALS~ Twitter & Instagram: @TheCinePals https://www.YouTube.com/@Cinepals ~JABY KOAY~ Twitter & Instagram: @JabyKoay ~ACHARA KIRK~ Twitter & Instagram: @AcharaKirk

Senna. Pows. Earlier today, we watched Bad Boys Part 1, my first time watching it, and I loved it. I thought it was fantastic. It holds up very, very well. If you haven't seen that reaction, do check that out, and then come back to this one. So, very excited to watch Bad Boys Part 4. I have seen 2 and 3.

I don't remember them very well. You might have heard me say that in our Part 1 reaction. If you want a reaction to 2 and 3, let us know in the comments below. I take that back. I do remember Part 2 a little bit better, but you don't remember part 2 or 3 at all. Not really, no. Yeah. So, yeah, if you want to see those reactions,

Let us know in the comments. All right. Let's see this. Bad Boys ride or die. Here we go. Yeah, there's something weird in his eyes. So I'm going to make a potato salad. Yeah.

Yeah. Permission granted, Reggie. There you go. I wonder if I changed up. I wonder if that's a callback to Bad Boys 2. I might be speaking out of my ass. Oh, it was. You know, and grufford, I was like, is that him?

I don't even know if I'm saying his name correctly. In Bad Boys 2, there was a sequence where, I don't know if it's the same dude, but, like, I'm just making a guess here. There was a guy who was trying to date, I think, Martin Lawrence's daughter. So he shows up at the door, and there's this long-ass scene of Martin Lawrence and Will Smith scaring the kid, like, with guns and everything, like, and acting drunk, acting foolish in an effort to, like, make sure he's, like, a good, guy. I don't know if the same guy, but it's like the way they was shot, I'm like, maybe it was the same guy. I was wondering like kind of the whole movie. If it was the same character at the very least. Yeah, they were definitely doing like homages and callouts to callbacks. Yeah, callbacks callbacks, callouts to the first film. It's fresh in my mind because we just watched it. So I'm sure

they were, you know, callbacks to two and three. Callbacks to two and three. So yeah, it was, I felt like this movie, the, the style, uh, the directing style of. Adilin Bilal is perfect for this and it's like and they're like the perfect modern day version of what Michael Bay was in the 90s you know what I mean I don't feel like it's that much different from what Michael Bay is doing right now actually well yeah but like what they're doing is updated for today but like very much in line with what he was doing back sure sure you know what I mean like for for now yeah yeah I'm glad I watch this this way instead of in theaters Why?

Well, first, let me say, I really enjoyed the movie. Yeah. I had a lot of fun. The crazy frenetic camera work and editing and stuff like that, that's a lot easier for me, as an old man, I guess, to watch on a TV rather than on a big screen. Yeah. Because I watched ambulance, you know, on a big screen, and I was just like, yeah, this is a lot. I have a feeling, though, if I watched it on a TV like this, I would have been able to enjoy it more. It's just a lot to take in when it's on a huge screen like that.

Like, it's a lot to process and stuff, you know? I thoroughly had fun with this movie. Yeah. You know, as a fourth installment in this series and them being much older, I'm surprised at how much, I, and I shouldn't be surprised at how much I enjoyed it. They have such great chemistry together. Yeah. But I don't remember coming away from Bad Boys three, just, like, loving it. No.

You know, but, like, I'm having a very positive feeling from this film, you know? Yeah. No, I think it really leaned into their relationship again, and it was feeling. age. Yeah, it was just feeling really fun. Yeah. Like, I love Martin Lawrence in these films. He's the crotchety one. He's like the kind of weird one. He's the goofy one. And then you've got Will Smith who's like Will Smithing, you know? And so they're great together. Am I the only one who thought that that slap scene? I was just thinking about that. As soon as you said it, right before you said it, I was thinking about it. Yeah, I was like, it feels like it was something, you know, calling out to

the Oscars moment. He's like, okay, he's got three slaps. Is that enough now? Like, Martin Lawrence slapped the shit out of him. Can we forgive him now? Yeah, for sure. I didn't think about that during the movie. I thought about it right before you said it. Oh, no. I thought as soon as as Martin Lawrence slapped him, I was like, oh my God, they went there. But I feel like you kind of have to address it. And I just read something today, actually, that this movie was edited in just three months. Like, they finished shooting it, and then they edited it in three months or whatever, and then it was released.

Isn't that wild? Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, well, you know, that. Well, no, for Hollywood, that's wild. I feel like in, in Asia. Are you just talking about picture cut? Are you talking about the whole thing? The whole thing.

Okay. Three months, and then it got released. That's pretty insane. That's insane. That's a very, very tight window. Yes. That's like Lethal Weapon 4 kind of tight. Oh, is that what they did in lethal weapon 4?

Well, Lethal Open 4 was shot in January for a summer release. It was like a very, very tight window that they had to work with for that movie. And so similarly here, I guess, like, what is it with part 4? That's crazy. It's like, we got to get it out. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to be honest with, like, when I saw the trailer, it's like, the trailer looked cool,

but I don't know that it, like, grabbed me the way that it, it wants it. wanted to grab me and seeing the film, I'm like, oh, this is actually so much more fun than I anticipated. It was a riot. Yeah. I really enjoyed it. The hacker mumbo-jumbo I'm being a little persnickety about and I recognize that, but it was just so like, hold on. Let's see if there's an after credits thing. I curse you, donkey.

I curse you for all lifetime. Oh, shit. Oh, you mother. Fuck you by this. That's stupid. That's so silly. The reason I asked about Martin Lawrence and barbecues is because there's a movie I really want you to watch. I don't know if a reaction, like, how well it would perform, but there's a film he did with Tim Robbins called Nothing to Lose.

And the end, I believe, takes place at a park, then they have a barbecue going. Oh. So I might have just ruined something for you there. But anyway, this is probably a number of films that end that way anyway. My Fast and Furious is how many Fast and Furious films end that way. Yeah, ends with the cookout always. We need a bad boy's crossover with Fast and Furious. That's what they need to do.

This whole fast and furious in space business and whatever. Get it out of here. They got to do a crossover with bad boys. That would be some shit. That would be pretty fun. That would be crazy. This was wild. Like, just the way that they shot all of this, the action and everything,

it was just crazy pants the way they did that, you know? Like, it was just so kinetic. Everything was just always moving. It was really interesting. Most of the time it worked. Sometimes it was kind of like, I don't love it too much, but appreciate the effort. Appreciate the originality. Do you know what I mean?

Just trying to do something different. And I think that Adil and Bilal are really exciting directors and they do action so well. Like, I remember you really enjoyed their episodes in Miss Marvel. Like... They did the first one? Yeah. Yeah, that was fun. Yeah, that was great.

Yeah. The first episode was the only episode I genuinely liked. And so, like, yeah, I'm excited to see more. more of what they do in the future. This is a tight two hours. And the movie did exactly what it needed to do. I guess because I haven't seen Bad Boys 3 in a long time, I don't know if his wife's character was in that movie.

I don't remember her. It's not about her. It's about the duo, right? However, small however, I just wish that they gave us a little bit more with her because she was just a sacrificial lamb in the movie. Yeah. Not that she died or anything, but like she was literally just canon fodder. You know what I mean?

which is fine. It's very like 90s, I guess. Yeah. You know, she just exists solely to be a plot function. But it would have been cool to care a little bit more about her and her safety, you know? That's true. But like you said, ultimately, it's about the bad boys, right? It's about Mike and Marcus.

And, like, yeah, there are some people on the periphery who are also really interesting. Like, I love that our video game playing Marine got to have his moment. And he, like, just saved the family in the coolest way possible. That was really fun as well. And I was going to say it was unexpected, but kind of not because he's a Marine. So it's like, yeah, of course he would know how to handle himself. But he was not only a Marine, but like a badass Marine, you know? I think they all did some Terran Tactical training.

Yeah. Yeah. Terentactical is a group, firstly. It's an organization. that's where a lot of Hollywood people go. Yeah. As far as I know, because I follow them on Instagram.

For like firearms training. Firearms training, correct. Because they all had that particular way of holding the, like they looked like, they all looked like they had the same training. That's the only thing that bothered me. It's like it looked like everybody had the exact same training course. It made it feel that much more authentic, though. Well, yeah, because everyone looked like they could handle themselves in a situation.

So, yeah, I like that a lot. They did a good job in this film of throwing off the scent. like a couple of different directions because like right away when they introduced tony robbins i was just like feels like he's the bad guy both of them feel like the bad guy yeah and then for a minute i was like wait who's maybe he's not maybe it's you know the nice nice job yeah the shuffling around of the attention there like there's a good some good movie magic there you know yeah that was really fun because i was just getting really stressed out because i love to guess you know i like to make predictions as i'm watching the movie and then like obviously

I was completely wrong about everything. But it's fun. I actually enjoy being wrong. It sucks being right because then the movie's too predictable. Yeah. You know. Four movies in, it's, you know, you ask yourself, how do you take these characters to a new place that's interesting and still

enjoyable to watch and compelling, right? Yeah. And so with Martin Lawrence, he had a heart attack early on in the film and they borrowed from Snatch. Yeah, that was crazy. And so they took what they did in Snatch and they just took it to a whole other level. but to have him have this like new kind of woo-woo take on life that was fun like I like that I thought I thought there was like a nice creative like step forward into the into this you know chapter in their lives and then with Will Smith you know he's trying to tough it out and he's he's got his panic attacks that's just like really messing with his

his focus and his abilities right in a profound way because he's older they're both older guys yeah they've been through some shit yeah in three movies they've been through some shit and like well for now but yeah well no, but like before this movie, right? So it's been three movies. And, you know, if that's their life or whatever, then yeah, Mike's been through some stuff. You know, he's lost people. They've both lost people. So it's understandable why he feels the way he does.

Right. And so, like, I just feel like with those both of them, it's, they took up to some interesting places. Yeah, it's just like, I commend the effort and, you know, the execution of, exploring something different with these guys in the fourth installment of this story. So, nice work there. Because, you know, it's easily you could just keep coasting on the same shit. You know, I love the Fast and Furious franchise, but it doesn't change all that much, movie to movie. Like, it just gets more insane.

Yeah, it hasn't really been getting better. It's still fun, but it's not like. I'd say like five, six and seven are like, that's the golden trilogy right there. Yeah, that's the peak. Yeah, one and then five, six, and seven. And then after that, this is... Not even seven. I'm sorry, I take that back.

One, five, and six. So... Yeah. And then Jason Mamoa. Yes. Loved Jason Mamoa and ten. Yeah. This was cool.

I read that they are probably going to be doing a five. I saw something about that. Yeah, I did see something about that. The actress from... I should know her name at this point, but the actress from Better Call Saul, I think she's such a phenomenal actress. glad that she was in this. I don't know if she was in the third one. Ria Seahorn.

Yeah. Like, if you haven't seen Better Call Saul, well, I guess you have to watch Breaking Bad first and then watch Better Call Saul, but she does such a great job in the show. She's, she's opposite of Bob Odenkirk, and she really holds her own in the, in the show. Like, I'm, I was so impressed because I'd never heard of her before that. And so it's really cool. And then Joe Pantiliano, again, I haven't seen Part 3 in a long time, but I feel somewhat confident that he probably had a much bigger role than this one as a dead dude that he did in part three, you know. Can't remember. Yeah.

No, I can't either. But he just, like, has a lot of, a lot of tapes in the dream sequence, all that stuff. I was like, how are they going to bring him back? All right. Show me. And then they did. I was like, okay, yeah, that works. He made his presence known.

Yeah. I just love all their responses. Like when Martin Lawrence, Marcus receives the text. And he's all like, oh, my God. He's texting us from the grave. I feel like he is me. I am him. Do you know what I mean?

Like, I love that woo-woo stuff anyway. And so the fact that he's like fully buying into it and his response to stuff, I'm like, yeah, relate. Well, you know, after my dad passed away, my mom sent me a text message. And it was like a very casual text message for my dad's phone number. And, you know, it's fucking weird. Like, you see your dad's name. who's passed away for several months pop up on your phone and you're like what like your mind goes to some trippy places immediately you're assuming the most

supernatural thing and then I see it's my mom was like do you want some eggs or something mundane I'm like mom don't do that I'm so mad at her like don't ever text me from this number ever again what was the name of the kid at the Marine guy do you know the character yeah he was in bad boys too oh yeah so yeah Reggie Dennis Green so it is the same guy all right Cool. Aw, that's sweet. Yeah, they brought him back.

Maybe he's in Bad Boys 3 as well, and I just don't remember. See? Okay. So it is the same dude. There you go. Look at you. Yeah, like, I remember, like, some random stuff from Bad Boys, too. Like, well, I don't want to say any more than that.

Because you might watch it again, and I don't want you. I'm going to mess it up for you. I don't. Make it not fresh. Don't remember. Okay. To what you were saying about, like, just how insane it got sometimes. Uh, in terms of, like, you know, most, like, half or more at the time, it was very fun.

And then sometimes it's just got to be a little bit much, right? I agree with that statement quite a bit. Like, overall, though, I think that I'm primed because, you know, you see so many movies up to this point that have just like a, it's loaded with CG and crazy stuff that when it was happening here, it might have a lot to do with what you said before about the first movie, which is just like the duo is so strong between these two that I was just along for the ride because in the airplane sequence, there was some nutty shit happening that a lot of which was just wildly not. making sense it it's like the plane is spinning like this you ever do the the carnival ride called gravitron where it's spinning i tend to avoid those rides you just end up against the wall because it's moving like there's two rides at carnivals that are like that where when it's spinning centrifugal force yes so hard you just end up against the wall i've seen those and like they were kind of doing that in the plane but not really and i'm like that plane is spinning fucking

fast and like they're will smiths just like moving around you know grabbing the rope i'm like i don't understand what's that and so Just go with it. Yeah, exactly. It's like, I'm just, this is just fun. So it's insane, a lot of CG, stuff isn't making sense, but it's just fun. And that's the important part is that you sort of like, I had a moment where I was watching that sequence, and I'm like, you just check your brain at the door.

I just go with it and have some fun, dude. Yeah. Just have some fun. And also like, oh, he's a good guy now, his son. Like, that's fine. I like him. I'll have him on the team. Why not, you know?

The part that I found offensive, though, was the, Martin Lawrence goes, I have a ring, a camera ring, a ring camera thing. Can we look in on that? And the guy goes, yeah, I have a VPN and a router. And I'm like, the fuck does they have to do with that? Well, it's like, didn't he say it was like their own private VPN or something? Whatever, who cares? It doesn't matter. It's, it's just stuff.

He's just saying stuff. That's about as sensible as all the, like, crazy, you know, mumbo jumbo. they got on the screen. It's just like occupying you with a bunch of visual nonsense. So it looks legit, even though it's, that's not what that is in real life. We all know that. You know, you ever watch the movie Hackers? No.

Like, the hacking that happens in that film where shit's just animated and flying around. It's like, that's not hacking. It's boring. Hacking is boring, you know? The closest they came to actually in the first bad boys, they actually, they had some, like, legit looking hacking as far as I could tell. I'm not a hacker, but like, it looked more legit than what we got in the movie hackers with the tall guy with the glasses who came back in this movie.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, and also, cool callback to have him back in. That's cool. You know, they, so we were obviously fresh off of bad boys, right? Michael Bay did some fun camera, experimental camera work to really emphasize the height disparity between Martin Lawrence and that dude. Yeah.

And not only that, there was like this semi-POV shot of the tall guy looking at Martin Lawrence, and it was a very wide angle lens to just for comic relief. and they brought it back here, and they used it a couple of times on both Wiltsmith and on Morton Lawrence. I'm like, that's cool, like these subtle callbacks to other films. Furthermore, I wonder if there was just a Michael Bay callback

in general with the drones. I think this might be a stretch, but I'm going to say it just so I know I said it. Okay. When the drones were going over, they dropped this little bomb thing, and the camera went with it until the explosion. That looked just like something out of Pearl Harbor,

the movie. which is directed by Michael Bay. Could be wrong. It could be not related at all. It could just be another cool shot because it's a movie of cool shots. Yeah. I mean, I think at this point,

it's like that's a shot choice. No, I know. It might be a stretch. I'm sure that's not like the most original. I'm sure people have done it. Maybe. But when Michael Bay did it, it's not something you saw a lot.

That's why you... Sure. It drew you to that movie because it was doing some cool shit that you don't normally see. I went because of Josh Hartnett And Ben Affleck All right, that's done

The thing where the camera was like flipping into the gun Like a video game shot I was just like I hated that I did not like that I thought it was cool Used sparingly But then when they started to use it a lot

It was kind of like okay This is a little bit too much For me it was a lot of the Spinning around shots excessively Oh I actually like that I get motion sickness I know So it's like, it's a lot for me when they just keep doing this, the spinning around shot.

Well, coming off, like, this is like my fourth time mentioning it, but having seen ambulance and then seeing this, I thought that the way they used it here was actually very smart because as the camera was doing stuff, it kind of reminds me of Michael Bay in his heyday because, like, Michael Bay, there's this shot in Bad Boys, too. He had a second unit director do this club scene, right? And there was a particular way that Michael Bay wanted it. He tried to explain it to the second unit. And the second unit guy was like, all right.

And he did the shot. And Michael Bay looked at it. He's like, no, this is wrong. And you can see in the behind the scenes, the second unit director's version and Michael Bay's version. And Michael Bay's version is clearly the superior version. And it's just the coordination of camera movement and action happening. Michael Bay knew what the fuck he was doing, right?

Yeah. And so likewise here, there was some similar Bayisms, right? Where the camera's flying around and there's this just perfect synchronicity with the action and stuff like that. The stuff in the amusement park, right? Yes, yes, yes. Yeah. That was awesome.

That's what I'm like, I really liked that. So I thought that while I'm not like, I don't love that drones are just sort of everywhere now, I thought their use of drones here was actually quite stellar. And I will say like the editing as well was really tight. Like I loved how, like I said throughout, it was just so kinetic, you know, we have the camera just following the characters and whatnot. It had this sense of like just. moving along and some sometimes i think there was one point where they they went from like one shot which maybe was a drone shot or something then they it turned around and then it turned

into like a pov with the gun and then like it was just constantly changing but it felt seamless and i just thought that was so cool yeah yeah yeah it was it was really really entertaining yeah they were employing some some good uh camera tricks slash editing tricks yeah so no i thought it was awesome. Yeah. So you guys, thanks so much for hanging out. Hopefully enjoyed that with us. I'm Jabby Kauai. This is Achara Kirk. Peace out.