Cinepals - DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN 1x3 Reaction & Review! | Charlie Cox | Vincent D'Onofrio | Marvel | Disney Plus

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Starting point is 00:00:28 Okay, here we go. Damn, like... No. The rule of law must prevail. Damn. What? No. No.

Starting point is 00:00:51 You're kidding. Well, it's hard to know because everyone's got those tattoos and stuff. Yeah, yeah. It could be that that's not Punisher, it. I don't know. I don't want to think that Punisher is being controlled by Wilson Fisk. Like, I can't. No, I don't like that.

Starting point is 00:01:11 But yeah, we didn't see his face. Obviously, the outfit looks very much like the Punisher. Yeah, his face is shrouded in darkness. Yeah. We don't know for sure who did that. It could be like there's a copycat gang or something like that or they've repurposed the symbol and used it for themselves or something. thing. So until we see his face, we can't be sure 100%. We still haven't seen Matt Murdoch in his outfit yet. Not since episode one. Maybe he'll get a new outfit. Maybe. Yeah. I mean, he's got a

Starting point is 00:01:44 whole collection, doesn't he? That was revealed in the trailer at some point. Yeah. This one doesn't balance very well. He was falling back. It's because he's blind. Charlie Cox is such a phenomenal actor because in that dinner scene, he had a great way of, letting me know how he was feeling without overplaying it. Yeah. Like all the dialogue, there's, there's so much going on in that scene where he's like saying stuff, but there's other stuff happening underneath it. I really admire actors who are able to do that in such a way that it just feels so effortless.

Starting point is 00:02:15 It just feels like I'm watching a real person. Well, exactly. You know. It's naturalistic. He's done the work. Yeah. He knows exactly how he feels about foggy and everything. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:02:27 And so if you truly believe you're. given circumstances and you just talk about it, all of those things are going to be there. And all you have to do as an actor is step out of your own way and just allow it to happen. Yeah. I hope we get to see him in other stuff that is noteworthy beyond Daredevil because I know he's been in other shows. I haven't seen it. And movies. I love Stardust.

Starting point is 00:02:51 Oh my God. He was in Stardust? I forgot all about that. Young Charlie Cox, yeah. Gotcha. I need to rewatch that then. Such a great movie. Because it's been so long.

Starting point is 00:02:58 I don't even remember him in that movie. But he's just so phenomenal. Yeah. I think that his ability to be so real in his performance is part of what makes his character so magical. Like, you know how Robert Downey Jr. is just like intrinsically Iron Man, you know, setting aside the future plans of the MCU. Like he, when you think Iron Man, you immediately think Robert Downey Jr. And there's no other Iron Man, right, in your mind. And a lot of that is just Robert Downey Jr. bringing himself to that role.

Starting point is 00:03:29 Yeah. you know, bringing his R.D.J. isms, as it were. And I think likewise here, you know, Charlie Cox, he's bringing something special there. And I think that's a big reason why people love and adore his character so much. It's not just the comics and the lore and the action. It's also that. Like, whatever that is, it just immerses you in this story. Yeah. He just brings so much of himself in a way that is just really delightful to watch. And I'm so glad that we got that scene because, you know, like I said, when we watched episode one, I felt kind of cheated, you know, like emotionally cheated to have foggy taken away like that. Like, we were just in denial, right?

Starting point is 00:04:12 Which is completely natural. I think that's that's also natural at first. Like when something like that happens, you're immediately like, no, it can't be. Like, they're still here, right? and I really wanted some sort of release for him because I feel like his character is so great he really deserves that and that scene had me kind of choking up

Starting point is 00:04:37 because of just how special he was and how much he meant to his best friend Matt you know and so yeah that was just such a really lovely scene to include and it also shows us like he's still recovering he's still dealing with that right on a daily basis so i suppose it's also uh worthwhile to commend the writing for that stuff i mean it's not just charlie cox yeah absolutely doing the performances there's good dialogue in there as well that he's pulling from and i guess perhaps as well

Starting point is 00:05:10 good direction so it's the whole culmination of everything everyone involved to create that stuff and bring it to life i wonder how people will feel about this episode because there was i don't think there was a single fight scene in this, right? In this episode? No. So it was all just like the jury stuff, the court stuff. Which I, again, thoroughly enjoyed. It was so thrilling, like, to go through the ups and downs of like, oh, yay, we have our

Starting point is 00:05:35 star witness now. Oh, no, he's not going to testify. Crap, what do we do? And then to have Matt out White Tiger like that. Right, right. And be like, oh, Hector is White Tiger without his consent, which, I'm like, God, what a move. Also, you know, kind of dickish, considering that he's also a masked vigilante, right? And like, how would he feel if someone else just revealed his secret like that?

Starting point is 00:06:07 But I understand why he felt he had to because ultimately it helps the win the case, yeah. And I do remember, like, seeing a comment somewhere. Maybe it was on our reaction or on a different video. Someone was like, oh, yeah, like I'm excited for White Tiger, but I'm really scared. I think they're going to kill him. It seemed evident to me that he was not going to make it out of this show alive. Which is, like, such BS, man.

Starting point is 00:06:36 Like, you bring a cool Latino superhero, and then you're like, and now we just executed him. Sure. it's good drama don't get me wrong it was just shocking but like come on you did our guy dirty

Starting point is 00:06:55 yeah that sucks yeah well the thing is I think that it's going to be it's potentially going to be further motivation for Matt to get back in the game perhaps you know

Starting point is 00:07:07 because it's dangerous you know it's dangerous to be out there but that's never stopped Matt before and obviously that didn't stop White Tiger either well it's got to to do something to him. Like, you don't kill that character off for nothing, right? It's not just to serve Wilson Fiske's plan. Right. There's got to be something that affects Daredevil Matt Murdoch

Starting point is 00:07:29 directly, emotionally, and I feel like it's got to come back to that. He's going to have an issue. It's going to pull him back in. It's one of those things where, like, after a while, he can't ignore it anymore, and he's got to put the suit back on, you know? Yeah. And it very well could be in the next episode so yeah i mean god that was just heartbreaking because you have to think about what's going through his mind right it's like you've been outed so everybody knows who you are like what your what your face looks like underneath that mask it was a pretty high profile case it seems so i guess any sane person any normal person would be like well that's it i'm done or would understand that they're marked now by the police.

Starting point is 00:08:19 I think that it was not smart to put the mask back on. No, but I think that's also indicative of his character. And maybe in a way, it's also showing us insight into daredevil's character and other people who are like them, who are vigilantes and believe that they are doing the right thing because it can feel like you don't have a choice. It's like, why did you go and help those? people because it was the right thing to do. Sure.

Starting point is 00:08:47 Why do you put on the costume even though you know people know who you are and you might die? Because it's the right thing to do. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. It's so sad. I just think that he probably needed his own white tiger born again situation. We need a white tiger prequel. That's what we need.

Starting point is 00:09:06 No, well, the thing is, it's like, you know, in court you can see all those police officers and it's like you're a mark. You're given the circumstances of like how you ended. up in this situation, it has to be very abundantly clear that you are now a target, your family is a target. Yeah. That would be my first foremost concern to just go out into the street and be a vigilante again, given the climate and given that your wife's face is like known. I just think the first move is get out.

Starting point is 00:09:32 Like, yeah, it's either get out or, I mean, maybe he did what he did because he knew that if they took him out, then what reason do they have to take out his wife? Yeah. I kind of, maybe this is selfish on my part. I kind of wish that he didn't die in the outfit. I kind of wish that he died trying to get away with his wife to protect them. Because it's like, that would be my first concern. It's like, yes, in my heart, like that's who I am as a guy who goes out there and protects people,

Starting point is 00:09:59 saves people, whatever, whatever. It's the right thing to do. But like the right thing to do is to keep your family safe. Right. Like they're obviously a mark now. Isn't that the whole reason you have a secret identity? Exactly. You know?

Starting point is 00:10:10 And so. Yeah, it's not just to protect your identity. It's to protect the people that you love. Yeah. That's the thing because, yeah, anyone could try and get to you through the people that you care about. Yeah. So that's what that would have been my preference. I understand it's more dramatic looking to have him in the outfit and all that stuff.

Starting point is 00:10:31 Yeah. And it certainly feeds into Fisk's agenda, right? Because he said some worrying things in the interview with Bibi where he's like, you know, sometimes the court system can be wrong. blah blah blah blah blah that's disturbing to hear and he's taken it into his own hands and that's a symbol to the people and to the people do you think that was fisk that did that at the end well i certainly believe that well we don't know for sure we don't know for sure but it's either fisk arranging fisk wouldn't kill him like with his own hands no no i'm just saying do you think fisk arranged that he could have that's the thing because he's not the one that arranged the 1.8 million no oh it could have been his wife yeah Yeah, but either way, it definitely feeds into his agenda, and it's just going to further support what he's talking about. Yeah, I just wonder if, like, having the White Tiger killed like that and his body being discovered, it's going to be all over the press.

Starting point is 00:11:30 Oh, 100%. And so I just wonder what the reaction is going to be in the next episode from people. Yeah, it is fascinating this kind of thing, the motif. I don't, that's not the right word, but like the device that. that they're using in the show with BB. BB, because it really does give you that sense of like on the street level what New Yorkers are really feeling. So yeah, I am curious to see how they handle that

Starting point is 00:11:59 in the next BB thing where I don't know if it's gonna be the interview that she's having with Fisk, if that's going to be a part of it, or if she's gonna be getting opinions from people and seeing how they actually feel about what happened, to White Tiger. Yeah. We'll find out.

Starting point is 00:12:18 I think that the actor playing Cherry is, he's so good. I don't know. It was like that moment when Matt Murdoch takes the mask out. And then, you know, his co-lawyer colleague looks back at Cherry and Jerry's like, I don't know, man. Like, that was such a good moment because I'm like, I have no idea why he did that. That's such a wild move. Like, why would you do that?

Starting point is 00:12:44 But then it all made sense. They had to just trust the process that Matt Murdoch has. Yeah. And it worked out, at least for the time being in court. I was just a little surprised because I was like, can't you just say he's a war of it and like bring that back up? Because like he served the country, et cetera, et cetera. You could bring up whatever he did, you know, while serving.

Starting point is 00:13:03 Certainly that's worthwhile. But yeah, but I think the, the him being a masked hero vigilante and the actual actions that he had done were more in. line with what happened. Whereas, like, if you were trying to argue, well, he, he's a veteran and he won a lot of medals or whatever, it's like, yeah, but he was just following orders and doing what he was supposed to do. I still think he'd be a hero for all that. But, uh, but I was going to say, like, I understand why it made sense to, you know, say he's the white tiger and show those stories of testimonials from people. Yeah, it was more compelling. That's more, that's definitely more

Starting point is 00:13:41 compelling. So yeah, if I was a juror, like, knowing what that guy accomplished while fighting on behalf of my country, I'd still be like, that dude's a hero. Well, yeah, no, I mean, not to discount anything that any veterans do while on active duty. I'm sorry if it came across that way. But it's just, I think what I was trying to put across is like your argument as well of like, oh, he's a, he's a weapon. You know what I mean? Look, I admitted fault all the, okay, we don't need to bring the con-era argument again. No, no, I think, I'm not. I'm not saying that it's, like, bad.

Starting point is 00:14:16 I'm just like, I just feel like him being white tiger is a much stronger argument because it's in line with what he actually does and how he behaves, unless they can pull up a story where he was on active duty and he did something similar. Like, he walked into a burning building and saved some children or something. I don't know anything about White Tiger at all. Like, I only discovered. When I hear the words White Tiger, I think of Tommy and Power Rangers. Like, because he went from Green Ranger to White Ranger and he hit a white tiger.

Starting point is 00:14:44 That was his animal, his sword. I think of the book and the movie of the same name on Netflix. Okay. So all this to say, I'm not familiar with his character. I don't know how that amulet works. Like, I guess it said in the show they said it gives him powers, but I guess it doesn't, it clearly doesn't give him invincibility. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:15:04 Because he got shot. It doesn't give him like a sense of precognition or superhearing or anything like that to know when someone's creeping up on you and wants to shoot you in the head. When he first put the outfit on, he looked like a... A luchador? Yeah, that's what, yes, yes, yes. That's what I was thinking, like some kind of wrestler.

Starting point is 00:15:20 Yeah, I like that. I really like, you know, kind of homemade superhero outfits. Like, I actually love this outfit. I love the classic, like, oh, let me just pull out some black clothes from my closet, some cargo pants and, like, put on a headscarf over my eyes. Well, you know what's funny is I was watching the recaps before we started the show, and I always liked this one better than the mask that he ended up with in season one. And the guy who was talking about in one of the recaps,

Starting point is 00:15:54 he said that they got rid of that mask because it was very evident that that mask was rushed. It always looked like he was about to sneeze. I was like, I never thought of it that way, but that's very true. And so they tossed it and they gave him a new one that looked. I guess it's this one. Yeah. Well, I don't know. I can't. Anyway. No, but I think there's something really charming about a character who's just making their own costume. And, like, they're still at the beginning of their story, right?

Starting point is 00:16:25 At the beginning of their journey, their superhero journey. And, like, they just so desperately want to go out there and help that they, you know, put together this homemade little outfit with whatever they can find at home or at the store. And I think it's just so, so cute. Yeah. I just feel like that's, it's hard to miss. Like, it's very bright. Well, yeah, he definitely went with high viz. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:16:50 Like, like, daredevil was all like, listen, I'm dressed for the shadows. Yeah, I mean, it's red, but it's dark red. Well, even this. It's like black, you know. And red is nice because then you don't see blood stains. Sure. But white, like. A lot of bricks in New York.

Starting point is 00:17:09 in hell's kitchen, you know, so I'm kind of blending in camouflage. It's so clean. New York's not that clean. You know what I mean? Like, how much laundry do you have to do to, well, I guess it's leather, so you would just wipe it, but still. What are we talking about right now? His white costume.

Starting point is 00:17:26 Oh, I was talking about Daredevil's red outfit kind of blends in with the bricks. Oh, okay. Sorry. Like, what? Did I miss something? Cross wires, yeah, a little bit. Yeah, I agree with you, though. Like, that white outfit's bound to get stained, like, every day.

Starting point is 00:17:38 And so I guess maybe that's why it's why it's. wife so mad because she has to keep washing the blood off. Or maybe the amulet. Maybe the amulet maybe the amulet is magical and keeps it clean or something. We don't know. And so enough with the silly conjecture. You guys, thanks so much for hanging. I'm Jabby Kauai. This is Achara Cook. Peace out.

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Cinepals - DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN 1x3 Reaction & Review! | Charlie Cox | Vincent D'Onofrio | Marvel | Disney Plus

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