Cinepals - DUNE: PART TWO Reaction & Review!
Episode Date: April 23, 2024Kristen continues her Dune adventure along with Achara, watching Dune: Part Two, where Paul Atreides embraces his destiny and navigates the treacherous politics of Arrakis, leading to a climactic conf...rontation that will shape the fate of the universe. This film stars: Timothee Chalamet (Call Me by Your Name & Little Women), Zendaya (Euphoria & Spider-Man: No Way Home), Rebecca Ferguson (Mission: Impossible - Fallout & Doctor Sleep), Josh Brolin (No Country for Old Men & Avengers: Endgame), Stellan Skarsgård (Good Will Hunting, Thor, & Chernobyl), Dave Bautista (Guardians of the Galaxy & Blade Runner 2049), Javier Bardem (No Country for Old Men & Skyfall), & Charlotte Rampling (45 Years & Swimming Pool), Florence Pugh (Little Women, Midsommar, Oppenheimer & Black Widow), Christopher Walken (The Deer Hunter, Pulp Fiction, and Catch Me If You Can), Léa Seydoux (Blue Is the Warmest Colour, Spectre, and Midnight in Paris) & Austin Butler (The Dead Don't Die, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, and Elvis). ________________________________________ SOCIAL MEDIA: ~CINEPALS~ YouTube: @CinePals Insta: https://instagram.com/TheCinePals Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheCinePals ~ACHARA KIRK~ Twitter & Instagram: @AcharaKirk ~KRISTEN STEPHENSONPINO~ Instagram: @Kris10Kesp
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Senna.
We are watching Dune part two.
Full disclosure.
I have seen this.
Kristen is the one who has not.
We did the first part together.
Kristen loved it.
You all know I love the movies.
And yeah, so I'm really excited to go on this with her.
Yeah.
Who said I had to wait that long to watch too?
Lies!
All right.
Let's jump into it.
Here we go.
She's like, I will not waste any water on you.
That loves me, speechless.
Yeah.
So how was that for your first time watching Dune part two?
Because it's not my first time.
Wow.
Are you okay?
That's a lot to take in.
Yeah.
Ah!
Yeah.
Oh, it's so messed out on some of different levels.
I'm like, I want to see more of his visions.
And I want to see what's next.
And now I'm mad because now I know I really do have to wait for a long time for the continuation of this.
But I would imagine at least another two years.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This has done so well.
The storytelling is just I feel like it's so new.
Well, the thing is that it's so fresh.
It's not, though, because the original books came out in the 60s.
But I think the reason why it feels fresh is because all of it.
these themes, all of these conflicts, everything that goes on in the story and in the books,
which I haven't read, by the way, but they're all universal themes and they keep coming back
because we're constantly like in conflict at war.
And we understand about colonialism, faith, religion, all of these things.
They're all things that are still very much relevant now and I'm sure we'll still be relevant
in years to come, you know?
So I think that's what leads to it feeling fresh
and it's done in such a fantastic way.
I also feel like because of where we're at right now,
I don't know, this film's scary.
Yeah.
This film freaked me out more than the first one,
like in a good way, but at the same time, like, it's terrifying.
You know what I mean?
When you think of like with things that are happening today's world.
Yes.
And you watch this and you try it because obviously every time we watch something,
We try to relate to it or if we put something that ties into whatever we're watching.
And I feel like just watching it, I'm like, this is terrifying.
And I'm like, wow.
The second time I watched it in the theater, it hit me even harder than the first time.
And I sat there as the credits were rolling and I sobbed.
Really?
And yeah.
And then I walked out and Jabby and his friend were out there.
And I just went up to them and I was just like, I'm so sad.
And I was like bawling.
And then like all of these guys who just watched the movie as well looked at me like I was crazy.
But it was for the same reasons that you're saying, which is like I was relating it to so many things that were going on in the world.
And I was just so distraught at like what was going to happen with Paul and how he doesn't have a lot of control.
And he's going into this thing knowing full well that like,
a billion people are going to die.
Yeah.
I feel like this is definitely one of those films.
You have to watch more than ones.
Yeah.
And I think watching it while you're doing reactions and then watching it in pure silence too is
completely different.
And I know like for the most part, we were actually pretty silent for this film.
But it's something that I think if I watched a few more times, you're going to pick up even
more from it.
And then each time it's going to hit you different.
I feel like we've just traveled so far.
I've come so far, and we have, and we're nowhere near the destination or where we want to be at all.
Yeah.
I'm glad we got rid of the blob.
He's just disgusting every shave form, but for some reason I feel like he, I don't know.
Ah, I cannot.
And a part of me is like, well, we brought him back last time, so.
But then I'm trusting my seer, Paul, and I'm like, oh, no, but then he knows, like, he's gone, you know?
But then I'm like, how much does he know?
Well, that's the thing, right?
And how much is accurate.
Exactly.
Because the mothers were off.
They were wrong.
Yeah.
Because what you were saying actually made sense to me this time, which is that how do you know exactly?
Because the whole thing about being able to see the future is that the future changes.
It changes with every single choice, every single decision that people make.
So it is this kind of like very twisty, windy road that he has to navigate.
But I really feel for his character.
because he's in a hard place, you know.
And this is what I was talking about the whole time
about this sense of destiny.
He tried so hard.
To avoid it.
Yeah.
And the harder he tried to avoid it,
it's almost like the universe was like, no.
Nope.
And you know what?
I feel like in everyday life, though,
I do feel there's some truth to that.
In real life, I think that we do have a destiny.
And there's certain things that we can't change
because we're supposed to do X, Y,
right which is why sometimes for example if you're in some type of relationship or you're in a
job situation and for some reason everything just keeps going to shit you know what I mean and just
no matter how hard you want something to work it doesn't work it doesn't work doesn't work right
until you literally have no other choice but to get spit out like chewed up and spit out and you're
like damn okay I guess you know I got to go this way and a lot of the times we know right our gut knows
this isn't right and we need to move on.
But sometimes it's like for sometimes, I mean, for some reason, we stay too long in certain
situations.
And I'm not talking about like just relationships.
I'm talking about like everything.
Like, whether that's your work or, you know, whatever it is.
There's always something that forces you out.
Yeah.
And I thought that was cool that they brought that in like hardcore because he avoided it so
hard.
And you know, his mom, man, she seemed crazy.
But now I'm like, maybe she's not crazy.
She was just pissed off, you know, and I keep saying she's pregnant throughout this entire thing.
I'm like, well, she's pregnant.
She's crazy, but she's pregnant.
And I'm like, okay, she's pregnant.
Makes sense.
Oh, she's here of mine.
I don't know if I trust his mom.
Is that weird?
That's the thing, though.
Like, I don't know who to trust.
Like the books, I guess, and the movie does a really great job of kind of setting it up where you understand that this has all been kind of set in motion by the sisterhood.
Yes.
And so.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so there's always that question.
hanging in your mind which is like how much of this is manipulation
and how much of this is true right and so and that's the part that's killing me
yeah and like they they offer both sides of the argument really well you know because you
see in the character of stillgar he is a man of faith he truly believes that paul is the one
and that he's going to lead them and and you know help his people but on the other hand
you have chani who's like no the people can
use these beliefs to oppress us and they have. Which is true. Which is true. It happens now.
Yeah. So there's like both sides to the story and it's like, okay, I guess we have to try and
decide for ourselves which one we believe in most or maybe there is a middle path. But it's rough for
Paul for sure because he's having to step into this role and, you know, become that Messiah that maybe
he doesn't even really believe that he is. I don't think he really
believes he is. I think he just realizes that he was born and trained to be a leader. And he finally
decided, okay, in order for me to save as many people. And I think his love comes into play hard.
And that's why he's like, he probably saw something where he's like, if I don't step up and become
that leader they need, a lot of people are going to die. And maybe my loved one's going to die.
You know what I mean? And like that is the way. How trippy is it that he's related to
blah.
Yeah.
That's like the...
And it's like she didn't know.
Like you said, like the other lady did to his cousin.
Like, it's like, I'm like, wait, they can just...
Because that's the power of the sisterhood.
They work in the shadows and they manipulate things and they don't plan like, you know,
two steps ahead.
They're planning like 90,000 years ahead.
Do you know what I mean?
That is true.
I feel like they're missing the big picture thinking like, I don't know.
And then at the end...
Paul's mom goes, you pick the wrong side.
And she goes, you haven't learned already.
There's no sides.
Right.
That's a nerly statement.
Because they're technically for them, there is no side.
They just go wherever.
They're just playing whatever.
Yeah.
They have so many pokers and so many different fires.
They're almost like the gods, right?
Yeah.
Zeus and them playing with the humans.
Yeah.
I almost feel like they're the gods.
And I'm like, I want to, it's so, I know this sounds bad, but I want to eliminate all the sisters
completely.
Right.
including his mother.
And I know that sounds bad.
But his sister is going to be one of them as well.
And she's powerful.
And she's way too powerful, especially because she was in the womb when her mother drank the poison.
I don't see the future looking very good.
No.
And I think that's why it's so sad.
It's because you know that the next movie is going to be like, it's going to be heartbreaking.
It's going to be war.
It's going to be heartbreaking.
We're going to see like a lot of people die.
People probably that we care about.
all our favorites. Yep. I think that they're setting this up really well and they continue to
set it up well. Like the first one, they set it up and built the storyline so, like very solid.
Yeah. And they continued it with part two and that's hard to do and they made two even more
intense. Yeah. And I feel like it's just going to get more intense from here. But also I think
the storyline, man, you can continue to thrive with this. Yeah. I mean, there's, there's like,
books upon books and everything with this world.
I loved it.
Yeah.
There was one thought that came to me as I was watching it again.
The thing that the emperor said to Paul about his dad,
and he was like, your dad was a man who led with his heart or something like that.
Yeah, he was weak.
Yeah.
I didn't realize it before, but I was like, oh, you know what?
Like, for a while there, Paul was kind of doing it too.
He was doing it too.
He was leading with his heart.
And that was Chani.
And he gave that up in order to step into the shoes.
Exactly, to be the leader.
And then I thought the same thing in that moment.
And then his face, you see his face?
He didn't even smudge.
He's like, I think that in that moment, he was like, damn, I am my father.
Whether he's not really his father or not.
You know what I mean?
Right.
I think in that moment, there was something that he could relate to his father in,
but then he stepped into his own to take it to the next level that his father couldn't have done.
but I also don't feel it fully made his father weak.
No.
It made him vulnerable for sure.
There's strength in that.
Yeah.
And I think a lot of people feared that strength because you're teaching, right?
You learn, like, people go off of what the leaders teach.
So if you're showing strength and kindness and being good and leading with your heart,
that's what the majority of people are going to do instead of being led by fear.
Yeah.
Or, like, chaos and whatever.
I hope that, like, his father comes.
into play more in the future, which I hope and think it will?
How? He's dead. Well, you know, like, when he, like maybe, well, I'm foreshadowing
myself. I'm going to foreshadow. No, it's just, I'm going to do a prediction. Yeah.
Of maybe at some point, Paul Millett, in this realm of forgetting where he comes from. And that
conversation where that conversation before they came to this island, okay, or this part of the
world this planet this planet they have that conversation which was huge yeah and it still sticks out to me
and i was thinking about it the whole time we were watching this you know and i'm hoping that at some point
we're going to have flashbacks and we're going to have like some flashbacks of this of certain
conversations or maybe even somehow he comes to him in some type of vision or some type of way
yeah where it's a different power that gets unlocked or or something more of his father a little bit
kind of levels and out.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, like remembering who he is.
Because right now he's getting so hard
and I feel like he's going to get a lot harder.
Well, it's like what Chani said, right?
It's like, I will love you
so long as you remain who you are.
And right now he's like taken a departure
from that sweet boy that she fell in love with.
And then he said, I will love you until I...
Yeah, I can see that.
Like, if they get into the relationship
between him and the emperor's daughter,
I can see this being like an intense love triangle.
where it's like the Empress's daughter knows
that he loves Chani
he's always going to love Chani
but I think they might still be able to
connect on another level
and he will have a love for her as well
there's a possibility because she seems cool as hell
she does seem cool as hell
she seems like a badass herself
yeah and so yeah I can see them kind of
having an understanding
and like you say even a love
but his passion I believe
is always going to be with Chani
I'm going to predict that the
for his daughter is going to die at some point
and then she's going to be like,
you should be together.
I don't know.
I think it's going to be way more tragic than that.
But like, no spoilers, please, for all of the you who've read the books.
I just think that, you know, we're going to be hurting no matter what.
Yeah, for sure.
This is good.
This is intense.
Anyway, you guys, thanks for joining us.
Hope you enjoyed that.
Let us know your thoughts and feelings.
How did this hit you the first time, the second time, the third time, the fifth time?
Whatever you watch this.
I'm going to watch it.
it again and the first one again, actually.
Do it. I am.
Do it. All right, you guys, thanks so much for joining us.
We'll see you next time. I'm a charic.
This is Kristen Steppenau.