Cinepals - HOUSE OF THE DRAGON 2x3 Reaction & Review!

Episode Date: July 3, 2024

House of the Dragon has come back!  House Of The Dragon is the prequel to Game of Thrones. The story follows the House of Targaryen 200 years before the events of Game of Thrones. Starring Paddy Considine, Matt Smith, Emma D'arcy, Rhys Ifans, Steve Toussaint and Eve Best. You can watch the cut down reaction to this movie (and many others) on our YouTube channel https://www.YouTube.com/@Cinepals and the full length reaction is available on our Patreon page https://www.Patreon.com/JabyKoay   SOCIAL MEDIA:  ~CINEPALS~ YouTube: @CinePals Insta: https://instagram.com/TheCinePals Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheCinePals   ~ACHARA~ Twitter & Instagram: @Acharakirk YouTube: @Achara

Senna. Pals. What's going on, everybody? We are continuing forward with House of the Dragon season two, episode three. Here we go. It's too late, with Hera. Oh, my God. It's not too late.

All these people are going to die because of a misunderstanding by Allison. No, but the frustrating thing is it's no longer a misunderstanding. She knows what it means, but she doesn't care. She can't back down. She's like, well. She can't be like, whoopsie. Yeah, the wheels have been set in motion. Like, this is what we're doing.

Look, y'all, I just made a boo-boo. Oh, man. Dang. Man. I'm so glad she asked the question. It was like, please, for the love of God. That's like a horror movie. We know exactly what the audience wants here.

We're just going to drag this out very artistically, very artfully, very masterfully. We're going to drag this out. And then she's going to ask the question. Everybody wants her to ask, what did he say? Hey! What did he say? And it was like a moment of realization for everybody, including the audience, which is like, it doesn't, the truth doesn't matter. Just like the letter didn't matter in season one of Game of Thrones that Sean Bean gave to

the queen. You know, it's like, this letter states this and this. And she's like, you think you can change all this with a letter? Bitch, get out. It was a very similar moment for me, which is like, the truth doesn't matter, honestly. It's like, this is what is set in motion. And it goes back to what they were talking about earlier, which is like, what really started the fight?

who started we didn't start the fire Billy Joel we didn't see who started the fire right well yeah because because you can always just kind of keep bringing it back to some transgression that one person did and then it's like you just keep going back and back and back far enough and then it's like okay so you've got a feud now that no one knows really why there is a feud but there is one and we just hate each other because it's been

passed down through generations you know that's what I felt in that scene in the opening which is like this isn't even y'all's actual fight like you're looking for a problem exactly you've been given a cause now and you're and you're making it your own it's like would you guys okay anyway sorry go ahead no no no i i agree with you it was like a very a very nice way that the the show writers or showrunner like displayed that you know it's like you have rainies talking about it and then you immediately see the blackwoods and the brackens just having a fight having a feud because it's like that's just like that's just what we do. Now we're just trying to find a reason. And so we can see that this is the direction that they're all heading in. But going back to the whole conversation with Allison and Rainera, I was just like, I honestly thought that maybe the show was just going to be like, ha ha, just kidding, you guys. We're never going to have her know the answer to that question. We're never going to have Rainira ask the question and Allison will never answer it. But

It makes it worse, I feel, knowing that Allison knows the answer and knows that she's wrong, but is still going forward anyway. Well, the question I've had this entire time is, does Allison really have any power in the situation? She's not the king. The king's the king. And it's like, she has no way of controlling him. She couldn't keep auto in power. Like, you know, it's all being decided by the, you know. But she is, I guess she's the queen dowager.

and also she can whisper in her son's ear. She can help steer him in a direction. Let me ask you a question. You know, you tell me, to the best of your estimation, what you think would happen. Let's say Allison goes, you know what? I made a boo-boo. I'm going to go and start this out with my son.

What happens? Like, really? Well, yeah, you're right. Honestly, probably he would just be like, no, piss off. Like, I'm still doing this. I'm king. I'm never going to relinquish my title.

I'm king, I like being king, and so this is a direction that we're going. And now, more than ever, I need to get rid of my sister, half-sister. Yeah. Yeah, that's confusing. Yeah, I get so confused. I'm like, wait, no, she's half-sister. We didn't start the fire. But we're going to burn the city down, that's for sure.

Everyone's going to die. The world's been burned since the world's been turning. Yeah, I thought this was a great episode. and the ending to it was very surprising to me for because like you could have easily cut it off when there's a multiple points where you could have easily cut it off and saved it right um where you she makes the decision she's going to go and see alison end it and then you know you get to the church she sits down next to alison end it those are two strong areas where you can leave it on a cliffanger and leave the audience frustrated with blue balls until next week when you finally get to see that but they gave us that whole scene earlier than i expected and they asked the question that I want that we all wanted them to ask and we actually got like a proper answer which is like now she knows but it doesn't matter which is what you've been saying it feels almost I might be making a huge leap here but it feels analogous to religion in a way where it's like people are just looking for excuses to fight you know so many wars have been you know had over

religion and a conflict in understanding or perspective in religion well it's not even that because okay so we've we've been hanging out in Japan for a minute and we've we've at Osaka Castle. Remember that thing we saw about the... I forget the Taika or something? Or someone came along and they were like, oh, you put my name in secret in this thing. Now I'm going to start war.

I'm going to kill everyone. People are just always trying to find an excuse. And even when we read that, we were like, that was clearly just an excuse to like kill this guy. Yeah, that's a very long-witted thing. I'm not going to try to help describe but the short of it is that it matters in what the kernel of truth

and what you're saying is that people are just looking for an excuse to fight. Well yeah, anything at all. Something as well, I mean, I don't know back in those days however like 500 years ago how insulting it might be to like have that situation happen with your name which I feel like

was a stretch and so yeah if people are willing to kind of start wars or start fights based on a stretch, then surely this is a good enough reason to have a war. One of the things to bring it back to Japan, you know, one of the things that you learn when you go and visit these old places is just how many battles have been fought. And I look at that and I go, maybe there was just nothing to do except moonwatch, eat, and go to war.

What other hobbies could you possibly have? Fishing, like, you know. Fornicating. Yeah, like shoot a boat. an arrow at the woods. It's like, what can you do? After a while? We're tribal creatures, right? We are looking for reasons to go to, you know, to fight. Yeah, that thematically kept coming back again and again. And the most poignant thing, though, was, I think it was Renese who said it, which is, like, who really started? And does it really even matter? Like, at a certain point, it's just like,

eye for an eye for an eye. And it goes way back, and you don't know where it actually began. I thought that was such a cool theme to kind of run through this. Yeah, and you see as well, all of the men, the young and the old men, are just, like, chomping at the bit to start fighting. You know, they're all like, oh, Renira, you have to make a decision. You have to make a move. Like, we should start. We should start first. Like, we need to fight right now.

And she's just kind of like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, everyone, calm down. Let me take a beat. I need to figure out what to do, which I think is wise of her. Like, she knows the repercussions. Like, it's basically for this universe, this world, it's like starting a nuclear war because we have dragons. Yes. That was my thought as well. It's like the dragons are basically the equivalent of nuclear war.

However, I mean, I agree 100% with what you're saying. I agree with Renera. Okay, let's just make that abundantly clear here. I hear a big fat butt. No, the only thing I just want to say is like I also understand where they're coming from. they're afraid and rightly so it's like they got attacked in the dead of night not them but you know like things are happening in secrecy they're afraid and they're like okay look we're about to die we got to do something we got to make a move like we can't just sit here and wait for death

to come we have to strike i understand the thinking behind that it actually makes sense and you understand where they're coming from they don't seem like unrealistic NPCs they seem like their desire to make a move actually does seem in for like i can see why they think that's the smartest move. They don't have all the information she has. They don't even know she's got a letter from Allison. Who's to say, you know, what they would do if they found out. They'd be like, that's just deception. You know, who knows what their reaction would be? Yeah. No, but I think it's wise that she, Ranira is constantly looking to Reignis for counsel and support because like we know that Reynes is someone who is smart. She's wise. She's older. She's seen the way the

world works and so I like that she is looking to her for support and also she's a lady too she's not as hot-headed as the other guys in the room she got paid a lot of money to do some looks in this episode and they're all powerful looks she gives the best looks like her withering looks I love where she just like looks at the screen and it's like I felt that it's a lot harder to do that than like have a whole page of dialogue have a look that says so much without doing that much. I feel like it takes a lot of, it actually takes a lot of skill to do something like that. 100%. So, yeah, she did a fantastic job.

Yeah, the acting in this was great. There was some, there was some nice shots. Like, there was that moment where Damon's walking around, right? And the camera's kind of tracking with him. And then it goes back with him as he looks and you see the bats. And I thought that was the end of the shot. And then it just kept going. And until it revealed like just the, how in disarray everything is. Yeah. You know, with the banners and everything. And I was like, wow, this is such an expensive

ass shot. And it's so beautiful. done. And then same thing in the tavern, where it's following this random guy who we've never seen before, but he's like really popular with the locals and everything like that. Well, he's clearly going to be important. We'll see. But yes, the whole thing of following him in, it's just like, that's just a cool fun shot that they did. You know, and the thing is, they don't have to put in that kind of effort. They can do that in a couple of setups. Yeah, yeah. And make it way simpler. But they took the time to really craft that moment. And it's like you felt like you were part

of it. You know, I thought that was pretty cool. What is going to happen with the bros? Because, you know, King found his brother in bed and was just totally humiliated, emasculated him. And it's like, okay, that's got to breed resentment. Yeah. And so what is the consequence of that? Maybe Aymond will make a play for being king. That just makes me care. I have no idea where that goes, because he's, to me, he's loyal to his family. Yeah. But that right there was not the move, No, well, and also like... Like if I, okay, if I saw my brother in a situation like that, I would immediately be like...

Moving on swiftly. Don't go going this way. Like, that was really... That was so vile. It was so messed up. It was really gross what he did there. I mean, and he was doing that to other people in the brothel as well. But yeah, to do that to his brother and emasculate him like that.

But I think, like, by him standing up, and turning around with his like full naked body he's just kind of saying I don't care and he just like walks out you know it's like you're not hurting me but we know that he's definitely affected by that that's like kind of embarrassing and he's you know egg on's making jokes about him at his expense and being all like oh it's gonna be so sentimental he's still like with the first one he ever was with it's just like he was in such a vulnerable spot and he was comfortable. Yeah. I mean. I mean, it would, I feel like it would have even have been less embarrassing if he was like full on having like very energetic sex, you, I get you. I get you.

That's just messed up. It's all, it's like, that's the thing I took away from that. It's just like, now I kind of want you to die because that was messed up. So one of the things we talked about was when he was sitting on the throne, right? And these people were coming up and going, can I have this? Can I have that? And he was, he was being, of course, of course, you deserve all this. And the auto had to keep going back up and down the thing, being like, you can't do that because

we need it for this. Yeah. You can't do that because we need it for this. And I read that in one way, and you saw right through it, which is what you saw was he's just being a people pleaser because he wants to be liked. And I was like, well, maybe the show is trying to tell me to maybe, like, be open to the possibility that he's trying to do good for the people, right? But, like, that scene made me just fucking hate him.

Well, yeah, because he was clearly playing it up for his. his buddies, you know. And, but they were all really uncomfortable, but Egon was so drunk, like, he couldn't read the room. Yeah. You know? He was just trying to feel like, hey, funny, my brother's expense. Yeah.

I mean, I wouldn't laugh. He's all about to be executed. Anyone who even cracked a smile is going to get him be slaughtered in the dead of night. You're about to die in your sleep like your son. Yeah, exactly. Anyway, very, very interesting episode. I enjoyed it thoroughly. Before we end, I wanted to say as well, I really enjoyed that scene with Damon where he had that kind of dream sequence.

Because I think that's so important. It was revealing. Yeah, to show us like his mental state because he has this like facade, this bravado about him all the time. It's like, yeah, I'm not affected by this. I don't care. Like, oh yeah, a child died, so what? You know, they sometimes children die. It's kind of the attitude that he was giving off.

But it was also interesting to see how even though Reneira is now his wife and she's a grown woman in his mind and in his heart, he still sees her as this young girl, you know, his niece. Like that is the image that he has of her. And then also, like, watching her sew up the child shows us like the level of guilt, you know, that he's feeling. towards this thing that's happening. I'm glad you said that because I wasn't reading that deep into it.

I was just like, well, that's a weird image. Like, that's all I got from that. Because it's like highly unexpected. You're like, wait a second. That was the effect. And the intention was probably what you're talking about, which is the, you know, his perspective on her and how he still feels about her. Yeah, like he still feels like she's a kid.

Yeah. The other possibility is, you know, because sometimes in the recaps and stuff like that, You know, you see the whole thing with Viceris and, or maybe it was just me reading up. But, you know, Veseris was angry at their coupling, right? And so maybe on some level he feels guilty because he's, I don't know. Forget it. I don't know what I'm talking about. Like, I have the feeling in my heart, but it's like I'm not articulating it very well.

But something about how maybe he's, he's bothered by the fact that he bothered his brother. But that's highly unlikely. Yeah. The simpler, the simpler explanation is what you. said, which is, you know, he's just how he sees her. That's how I read it. But I thought that also a lot of the stuff that was happening with Damon was just really telling, like, even in his interaction with the Lord of Harenhall or whatever, who was

dining, just how it was so important for him to be addressed as your grace and not my prince. You know, like that was just so important to him. to get the title right when, and I think that's just telling us the audience, like, he really does care about becoming king or like having the crown. He's not going to become king, obviously, because that would be for Reneira, but at least he's like, king adjacent, you know? Yeah, for sure. King consort.

Yeah. Anyways, you guys, thanks so much for hanging out. I'm Jabby Kauai. This is Acharik. Peace out.