Cinepals - HOUSE OF THE DRAGON 2x6 Reaction & Review!

Episode Date: July 22, 2024

House of the Dragon has come back!  House Of The Dragon is the prequel to Game of Thrones. The story follows the House of Targaryen 200 years before the events of Game of Thrones. Starring Paddy Cons...idine, Matt Smith, Emma D'arcy, Rhys Ifans, Steve Toussaint and Eve Best. You can watch the cut down reaction to this movie (and many others) on our YouTube channel https://www.YouTube.com/@Cinepals and the full length reaction is available on our Patreon page https://www.Patreon.com/JabyKoay   SOCIAL MEDIA:  ~CINEPALS~ YouTube: @CinePals Insta: https://instagram.com/TheCinePals Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheCinePals   ~ACHARA~ Twitter & Instagram: @Acharakirk YouTube: @Achara

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Senna. Pals. All right. Continuing forward, House of the Dragon, Season 2, Episode 6. Let's jump into it. Do not leave this until the next episode. I need to see a face. Oh.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Oh, we're not. Yeah. Mother flipper. I called it. You did call it. But I don't want to talk about that right now. I want to talk about freaking sea smoke. and who the rider is, because both of them, Alan and his brother, are Corliss's children then.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Because I wasn't too clear on that because... So one rides the back, one rides the tail? No, no, because, like, Reinez was, like, basically saying, like, I know who you are, right? And so we figured out... But she wasn't saying it to that dude. No, she said it to Alan, right? Not to Adam. Is that his name?
Starting point is 00:00:57 I think Adam's... Well, there's two A names, all I remember. Alan and Adam, I think of the names. Okay, well. So Adam's the one with the black hair. Okay, sure. We'll go with that. But yeah, because we saw Alan shaving his hair and, like, the silver coming through.
Starting point is 00:01:10 But obviously, his brother does not have that same color hair. But I was a little bit confused because when they were talking together, the younger brother, I'm assuming he's the younger brother, was saying if you would just, you know, kind of tell him who you are, then, you know, we would be taking care of maybe you could be an heir or whatever. And so I just assumed that Alan has the blood. Based on his hair. Based on his hair and what he was being said. But like Adam was implying that Corliss would take care of both of them, which is like why would he take care of both if they're not both his children? So I guess maybe he also has the Valerian blood.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Yeah, I mean that would be apparently the case. I'm excited. That was cool. It seems a little bit odd that they would save that for the next episode. I feel like we all know that it's got to be Adam, right?
Starting point is 00:02:05 Or could it be Alan? How? Why would it be him? He wasn't at the forest? No, he wasn't. Adam ran deep into the middle of the forest and got surprised. Sure, sure, sure, yeah. And he didn't get killed right away.
Starting point is 00:02:15 It's like the dragon had him in his sights. If the dragon wanted to kill him, it would have. That's true. That's true. It was doing the thing where it looks at its new rider, like, hey, I think you and I could hang out together I think we're destined to be. I think if it was going to be Alan, like, we would have seen an indication that somehow Alan was catching up to him or something, which definitely not the case.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right. This was a really fun episode. It really, really stressed me out with a lot of the things that were happening in this. You know, like with the dragons, that that whole crazy plan that Jace and Raynira had concocted to like try and look down the family tree. but it's like poor old Sir Stephan probably never stood a chance
Starting point is 00:03:03 well obviously he didn't because he got burned but his blood came from his grandmother's grandmother it's so diluted at that point so it's like you really need it to just be like 50% no less than that otherwise it's not happening so yeah it's sometimes it gets lonely at the top what do you mean oh yeah yeah you're obsessed with this.
Starting point is 00:03:29 What do you mean how obsessed? I was just calling it out. Reneira and Misaria, getting it on. I honestly, I was just kind of like, I could see that there was maybe this little suspicion of attraction, but I was kind of like, they don't need to do that. It doesn't need to always be about like, oh, now we're going to like get sexy and like fall in love
Starting point is 00:03:53 and get intimate or whatever. It can just be, we're just. friends do you know what i mean like we we love and respect each other as sisters but sure you want to i don't know if that was always the way in the books but like i'm not against them being together if that's what the show clearly clearly you're anti lesbian obviously obviously i am you are you are a big fat bigot with a capital b yeah you know the first two letters of bigot b i tc h the first No. The first two letters of bigot is bye.
Starting point is 00:04:30 I don't even know. Go with that. Where do you? Yeah. Where are you going with that? I'm saying she's bye. That's all. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Yeah. They both are. Sure. They're finding refuge in each other's arms right now because they have no one else. I'd been wondering if that was the trajectory of those two for a while. I know. Ever since the episode where it's like it seemed like they were starting to become like friends and closer. I'm like, okay.
Starting point is 00:04:56 I'm just going to. keep my tongue in my mouth on this for now and not say shit i'm gonna i'm gonna hold my tongue and just just watch and see how it plays out i don't know there was something in this episode where it's like oh i feel like it's headed that direction there's no there's no way it does it yeah yeah then they hug and i'm like that's not just a hug i know what a hug feels and looks like that's not a regular hug oh that's not a regular run-of-the-mill hug okay i love that scene though i thought it was really beautiful. Then they're doing like the neck sniffing and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:05:28 I'm like, mm-hmm. Uh-huh, yeah. I was trying to talk about how beautiful that scene was. The kiss? No, before that. The kiss was fine. Whatever, they kissed. But like, Missaria being really vulnerable and sharing this awful story about her childhood
Starting point is 00:05:46 and how it changed her perspective of the world, but she sees Rainira as being someone that she can trust and someone that is steadfast and trustworthy. And so I thought that was really beautiful. And she gave her the confidence, you know, to be like, you can still be a queen. Just because all of these people don't believe in you doesn't mean that you don't have the qualities because she does.
Starting point is 00:06:10 You know, she could be a really great leader. It's just that right now people are kind of looking at her and only seeing a soft, delicate woman. Part of why everything fell apart with Sir Christian was because he wanted to run away with Renera. Yeah. And she didn't want to, right? She was like, no, no, like, I'm going to marry this dude, but you and I were for real.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Yeah. That's just a show. Yeah. I feel like if this relationship continues, it would be a similar situation. It's like, now the thing with Damon, like, is that real? That's more just for show if Damon ever comes back. This is what's real, but it's got to stay a secret. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:45 I don't think that that would be a problem. I think that Misaria's used to being kind of like a secret, so long as she's well taken. care of and given a position of power or listened to, I don't think that she would have a real issue with that. And the fact is that Reneira has had lovers before. I mean, her children were fathered from her lover, you know? Sure. So it's not, yeah, for her marriage, a lot of it is like, oh, yeah, it's just for the alliance.
Starting point is 00:07:21 How will Damon feel if he ever comes back and finds out? That's quite a complicated situation. Yeah. I mean, at this point, then they've all been together. Do you know what I mean? They should just all be together. They could just all be together. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:35 That could... One big family. Or he could just get his own power more. Like, what's the big deal? Everyone's just with other people. And he's not even there anymore and he doesn't even seem to care. So... Okay, so let's talk about him.
Starting point is 00:07:48 He's definitely being, like, domesticated by this haunted house. he's being he's being like shown a new path internally emotionally spiritually it seems like yeah because like okay when when dude showed up with the news and then he started crying i'm like did that make him cry the news of that information that can't be what it is that's why i asked you and so it seemed to me that it was tied to this dream he just came out of right um and so he's like really having to deal with all of this guilt he's just been suppressing for the longest time Yeah, it seems like it. I think you made a good point because in that scene with King Vassaris in the throne room,
Starting point is 00:08:29 you know, it was like a repeat of what happened. He's like, oh, you know, he's being faced with the fact that he was just more concerned about himself and what he was getting. And I think, yeah, you're right. There is a sort of regret there. And so he's reliving these moments and kind of being like, oh, I could have made another choice. What if I'd done that instead? Or what if I'd...
Starting point is 00:08:53 Well, yeah, I mean, as he walks around through the world, he wears an armor of, like, de-gaff. Yeah. Like, I don't care at all. And so in these dreams and nightmares, he's more vulnerable, and that layer is gone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:05 He's stripped of it. And so we see, you know, what's going on underneath. And maybe, I guess, regrets he has, like, what he should have done instead. And so that's really affecting him. Like, you can see how the whole situation with the Karen Hall is just really
Starting point is 00:09:21 messing him up. He's not getting sleep. He doesn't know what's real and what's a dream. And I think his relationship with Alice Rivers is getting more interesting as well because he asked her for help and then afterwards she's
Starting point is 00:09:37 like, don't do anything. Wait three days. Yeah. And then the news comes and it's like Grover's died. And now there's like a new ruler as it were in place. So what are the implications then?
Starting point is 00:09:52 I reckon she did something. Okay. To him and just kind of eased him along because he was already old and sick. Right. Yeah. And that benefits them? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Yes. Because remember in the previous episode, he was talking to the younger Tully. And I can't remember. I think he was like the grandson or something. And so he was talking to the younger dude and he's like, yeah, well, if you want to help, you could like kill your, your. grandfather and he's like, why would I do that? Oh, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Now it's coming back to me. Yeah. So now he's in power. So maybe he can talk to him more and convince him to talk to the rest of the families in the Riverlands and get them on board. But whether or not they'll listen to a new young guy is still to be seen. But I think this kind of... Oh, the winds seem to be favorable.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Yeah. Yeah. So they can at least try, you know. So they got that. And they got the, you know, Adam's got a dragon. Yeah. And Renera's got a new lover. Well, she's also got really sound advice from someone who truly believes in her.
Starting point is 00:11:02 And, you know, I like this kind of little campaign that they're doing of let's get the small folk riled up and angry. And they're absolutely right. It's like it's really hard to wage war outside when at home. home is in turmoil, when you have to deal with people being angry and, you know, rioting or whatever in your city, and then you have to try and fight a war outside, it's, it's problematic. Yeah. I just think that they're going to be a power couple, assuming that that works out. They could be.
Starting point is 00:11:37 You know, because Missaria is very smart. Yes. And I guess also very inspiring, you know. So I believe in you. You're the queen. You're my queen. A lot has been going on as well in the Red Keep, right? Like, Amund is throwing his weight around and generally being a dick.
Starting point is 00:11:58 I love that scene with Laris Strong, where he's talking to Egon and relating to him in a way, like, on his level, right? Because who else would know truly how it feels to be an outcast than someone who is crippled like Sir Laris Strong? You know, like that's been his whole life and he's absolutely right. It's like, fine, he wasn't blessed with a body that was super capable but instead he cultivated his mind and he's become someone who's really sharp and Amon kind of screwed up by really insulting him.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Like he didn't realize exactly who Laris Strong is and that he would find his moment to then take his revenge You know? So, Amon's arrogant. His mother called it. She's like, you've got the arrogance of youth. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:12:54 And so he thinks he knows everything. And sure, he's a more decisive leader than Egon, but he's still a dick. Yeah. He also has hubris. Exactly. Exactly. No, I think that they're doing very interesting things with the characters because now Egon is going to become a different kind of person altogether.
Starting point is 00:13:14 And so they're planting. the seeds for, I guess, how he'll evolve over the course of the show. And I think that's actually really cool because I really didn't like him. No. You know, I don't know if I'll like him now, but he'll at least be turned into a character that's more interesting. Yeah. And even though, like, I don't love Laris Strong as a person, I think his character is so
Starting point is 00:13:38 fascinating. Oh, for sure. Because, like, especially after hearing, you know, from his perspective, his backstory and everything. It's like, you feel for him, even though you know he is capable of great evil and has done truly evil, heinous things as well. Sure. Yeah. I just enjoyed the little exchange he had at the table where he thought he was being anointed to the hands. I felt so bad for him. I didn't. He was like so happy. And then all of a sudden it's like, no. I thought that was great writing because it like, it kind of caught me off guard twice, right? Because Laris is like,
Starting point is 00:14:13 you need a hand and Amon's like, oh, you think of a, I'm a fool? You think of an idiot? Yeah, okay, hand. And then Laris is like, oh, thank you. I appreciate it. He's like, no, get the hand. You need to go get the hand. Like, the way it did that kind of was like, I thought that he was anointing him initially
Starting point is 00:14:31 as well. Yeah. You know? We all thought that. Yeah, but it was like, it tricked me twice because initially I was like, oh, so he's calling him out on his shit while simultaneously calling him the hand saying like, you You are the hand, but I'm not stupid. I could see what games you were playing, and we're going to go along with this.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he's like, no, no, I need you to go get him. And I'm like, oh, shit, okay. That's really clever the way that that played out, you know. And it also humbled him because he thought he was so slick. Yeah. But like you said, he caused him to switch sides. Technically, he's still team green, right?
Starting point is 00:15:05 Sure. But he's switched allegiances now. And I feel like he's the type of guy that you really don't want to be your enemy. because he will find a way in the dark behind your back to take you out. Well, he strikes me as someone who's got his hand in every pot, you know, and he's ensuring his own survival. And so by him, you know, propping up Agon and ensuring his survival by giving him the right motivation.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Motivation and motivation and whatever. It's like he's just, you know, he's hedging its bets. So, yeah. This show has had a couple of interesting misdirects, especially in the episode alone because we I think we all thought that Alan was going to be the one to if anyone to ride a dragon right you know Adam was the one way less suspected was going to come anywhere near that kind of thing and it's like no he was the one who was chosen and that was another fascinating element to the whole thing because you know the night is like okay I
Starting point is 00:15:59 accept you know this responsibility to try and ride the dragon but like that was wrought with fear and like hesitation and whatnot but it's like he just wasn't the one he wasn't chosen by the dragon. And the dragon did some sneaky-ass shit because he, like, put his neck down. He's like, go ahead. Go ahead. Ha, ha, got you, bitch. Like, that was so messed up. The dragon's like, I will choose. And I do not choose you. It was almost like the dude at the beginning of Aladdin getting swallowed by the sand. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's not the diamond in the rough. No, he's not. He's not. He's not Aladdin. I enjoyed that a lot. And then also, the stuff with Allison is interesting as well
Starting point is 00:16:41 because since Egon came into power she's kind of been sidelined and then now Eamon's in power and he's totally just like I don't need you anymore like why don't you go and do domestic shit like I don't know embroider whatever it is that you do
Starting point is 00:16:57 mother he didn't say that but that's the monologue that was playing in my mind I'm just wondering like what is she going to do now she's been so sidelined and she so desperately wants to be a part of the action and she's the one that like put all of this into motion like
Starting point is 00:17:13 what is she going to do now that her son who's the Prince Regent is like yeah piss off well they're certainly setting up that this house is making mistake after mistake so yeah they're like falling apart from the inside yeah well he's he's got such
Starting point is 00:17:29 such hubris you know like the arrogance of youth or whatever and I'm like okay well he's gonna fuck up he's gonna mess up He's messing up because he's not listening to people who have more experience and wisdom than him. That's always a problem. But like, yeah, that's when you're 20 or however old he is, he might not even, he may not even be supposed to be 20 or whatever yet. But like, can you remember what that was like?
Starting point is 00:17:57 You think you're right. You think you know everything because you're a grown up. And it's like, shut up, you don't. Well, the person I've been curious about is Sir Kristen. It's like, what is on his mind? You know, he's so morose. I want to know what thoughts are playing through his head because he saw something happen.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Right. Like something really awful. And he's just kept that to himself. And now he's taking orders from this guy who stole that throne. Yeah. And he's like, now what? Because I don't, I guess it's just like,
Starting point is 00:18:28 oh, he's maybe a better choice than Agon. But now he's probably thinking maybe not. But also, I'm sure he doesn't want to say anything about it because he's not completely stupid. Because if he decided he wanted to tell someone, then... That could mean his death. He could die. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:49 So he's not going to. Yeah. Unless he suddenly has a change of heart and a death wish. He also hasn't had a proper conversation with Allison in a while. No. So... No, that was awkward because she clearly came down to see him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:02 And then her brother was there. Although that was actually a pretty poignant moment, I feel. That exchange she had with her brother where he was telling her about her son and how he was kind and most importantly kind, right? Because as you pointed out, none of her other sons who grew up here are kind. And I think it was just like the realization as well that maybe it's just because she's a shitty mother. You know, because she did mention something about like maybe it's just the mother because he was raised by someone else or other people.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Yeah. He seemed very reluctant to have that conversation. initially. Yeah. Yeah. He was just kind of like, I just want to go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I was like, that was one of a few moments in the show where I'm like, what's going on with these characters and like in their mind? Like they have their load up
Starting point is 00:19:49 into a scene, right? A load up. Can you give us a breakdown of what a load up is? The load up is basically the moment before. It's like what, what happens right before a scene starts?
Starting point is 00:20:01 Like, where are you at emotionally? What's going on in your mind and all of that? informs how you're behaving in that scene. Yeah. And so when the scene was playing out, I was trying to figure out what his load up was. Because I'm like,
Starting point is 00:20:14 oh, he's got something going on. And so the only thing I could chuck it up to was he doesn't want to go, you know, and have this fight that he's being sent on right now. Yeah, because he might die. Yeah. That's the only thing I could get from that. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Yeah. Maybe there's something more, but we don't know yet. But it almost felt like he had anger directed at her. And I was trying to figure that out. I'm like, why is he mad at her? What did she do to him? Is there like a complicated web of blame happening
Starting point is 00:20:39 where she's like, your son is putting me in this situation? You know, like, or is it envy? Because he said something in the scene work in the dialogue of like, you were the favorite. I can't remember as well. I think it was that she called him to come.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Okay. To be part of this. You know, to join Sir Kristen Cole, and I suppose kind of be her eyes and ears and whatnot as he was going on that first campaign, right? To Brooks rest. Maybe he's still dealing with a trauma, of the fight yeah so yeah it was hella scary a lot of people died yeah all right cool fun times
Starting point is 00:21:13 thanks y'all peace out

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