Cinepals - HOUSE OF THE DRAGON 2x8 SEASON FINALE Reaction & Review!

Episode Date: August 5, 2024

House of the Dragon has come back!  House Of The Dragon is the prequel to Game of Thrones. The story follows the House of Targaryen 200 years before the events of Game of Thrones. Starring Paddy Cons...idine, Matt Smith, Emma D'arcy, Rhys Ifans, Steve Toussaint and Eve Best. You can watch the cut down reaction to this movie (and many others) on our YouTube channel https://www.YouTube.com/@Cinepals and the full length reaction is available on our Patreon page https://www.Patreon.com/JabyKoay   SOCIAL MEDIA:  ~CINEPALS~ YouTube: @CinePals Insta: https://instagram.com/TheCinePals Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheCinePals   ~ACHARA~ Twitter & Instagram: @Acharakirk YouTube: @Achara

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Senna. Pals. We have made it to the finale of House of the Dragon Season 2. Very excited to jump right into this. Rar. That's your dragon? That's what turns all the ladies on. Wink, wink, wink.
Starting point is 00:00:13 Here we go. Oh, they did run off. Okay, cool. So what then? She can tell. Take the throne because it's empty. There's still going to be a war. Everybody's doing their own thing.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Oh, what a shot. Interesting shot. Oh, what a edit. That was cool if I didn't know what Blue Balls was before this. I know. I do know. It truly is the Cold War of Dragons. You know, this is very unlike Game of Thrones.
Starting point is 00:00:56 It's so interesting because they have made you, a lot in this season of things that are inferred seeing the aftermath. Like that has happened a lot even within this episode. You didn't see the city get taken out.
Starting point is 00:01:11 You saw the aftermath of the city getting taken out. Right. By Amen. Right? Yeah. And Vagar. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:18 And Vagar. Sorry. The names scare me sometimes. So, yeah, you saw the aftermath of that and I was like, oh, interesting. And I'm not like someone who just like craves violence, as you know. I know, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:30 But I am just slightly afraid that instead of kicking things off in the next season, two years from now or whenever, with action, it's going to be aftermath. Yeah. That's the only thing that scares me just a little bit. Or just more of this, just like preparing for war, preparing for war preparing. No, you saw it. No, you cannot kick off season three that way. You've got to come in hot or it's going to be the aftermath.
Starting point is 00:01:56 It's going to be one or the other. and I think it's such an interesting and bold but also slightly frustrating move that that has been the move the entire season because on the one hand I'm like, that's cool, I like it, it's effective, it's efficient. You don't actually need so much carnage to tell the story. You had one scene in the season that was carnage.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Yeah, when Renice died fighting Amin, right? That was the one scene with a lot of carnage. Outside of that, really, like, how much did we get? Most of it was inferred. And I'm like, hmm. Or dragons also. just like killing people when they were trying to find dragon riders that was that's not the same that's not the same i'm talking about like a battle sure you know okay um and so it's just kind of i like it and i
Starting point is 00:02:40 don't at the same time i'm like i think it's mature but also what the fuck at the same time i have mixed feelings because i think that it's an intelligent way to tell the story it's effective it's also saving you money yes but at the same time i kind of wanted to see the action that's all i'm saying long-winded kind of way yeah i get that for sure i think i also wanted to see some action in this episode i also really wanted to see what's her name is it bala the other girl the one who doesn't have a dragon i really wanted to see her actually you know maybe get on that dragon but i guess that's a cool cliffhanger a lot of cliffhangers in this episode i know this episode's just like hey will they, won't they? You know, I kind of love this. Okay, now you love it. Because, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:30 you think about what's out there, right? Because at one point, Game of Thrones was sort of setting the standard for violence and everything. This season was not without its like gratuitous nakedness, right? Sure. It had moments like that, but that was kind of early on. And then it fell off. And in favor of more of the drama, in favor of more of the story. And you think about stuff like, It's a weird comparison to make, but just go with me. You think about stuff like The Boys, which goes all out, balls to the wall insane, with nudity and violence and shock value. And this is more like, we're not doing that.
Starting point is 00:04:05 We're not creating a second screen show. This is like, high art. This is drama. Yeah. And I'm like, I really respect that. And I can totally see at the same time how this might frustrate the F out of a lot of people, but I respect it and I actually quite enjoyed it. It's very story-driven, very character-driven.
Starting point is 00:04:23 And I really appreciate that about it because, you know, we were watching another show on our other channel, Sinadasi, a show similar to this in the sense that, you know, there are people struggling for power. Power, yeah, and like a lot of characters. I will say that House of the Dragon does an excellent job of really making me know
Starting point is 00:04:50 who the characters are, caring for the characters that I care for and even for the ones that are like on the side that I don't like, I know who they are. They feel very different and individual to me and like their motives and everything are pretty clear, you know, and so I can follow along really well and I'm really, really invested in the characters and what is going to happen to them. So, you know, you're right. Yeah, we're ending on some massive cliffhangers, but also, it's a really exciting place to end because now I'm just like, ah, give me season three.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Yeah. I need to know. Oh, you're going to have to wait two years. I know probably. I really enjoyed that scene work with Alan and his father. Corlis, yeah. Corlis. Yeah, I enjoyed that scene work because you could really feel like he was, like, number one,
Starting point is 00:05:42 he probably thought like a thousand times in his mind, what would I say to him if I was given the opportunity? What would I actually say? And he's been holding back the entire. season that part too it's just like in just you know it's all kind of a whole bunch of feelings kind of coming out at the same time and it's been so restrained and to see him instead of just going off on one but it coming out the way it does of just like frustration and hurt more than anything I thought it was a really cool way to play that I almost would have wished that he would have pulled back maybe
Starting point is 00:06:13 even more okay I think for me that would have like really hit me in the fields a lot more but I think because I felt that he was shouting a lot. Oh, you thought he was shouting? Yeah, a little. Oh, okay. I thought it was made, I mean, but okay. It's subjective, I guess. It's subjective, but also fully valid.
Starting point is 00:06:34 He's been harboring that hurt for his entire life. Exactly. And so I guess it makes sense, but. Well, it didn't quite push me over into the realm of, like, like crying and stuff like that, but it did make me feel for him. Yeah. You know, like when he was talking about what he saw as a child and being hungry and all that, I'm like, oh, my God. Like, I feel so bad for this guy.
Starting point is 00:06:56 In a way that I was not expecting to, you know, I wasn't sure what he was going to say. And I did not interpret him as shouting. Because, like, I know what shouting sounds like. But I grew up with an Italian father. Like, I know what shouting sounds like. Sure. But, I mean, even for the show, there was a tone kind of set early on. Matt Smith had some scenes early on in the show where he could have went off.
Starting point is 00:07:19 on one. He could have gone off on one. He could have shouted, but it was more under his breath. Yeah. So the show kind of set a tone early on of like how someone conveys frustration and anger or rage. Yeah. And so I suppose in respect to that, yeah, he was shouting. But in comparison to like just shows and movies and life, I don't think he was shouting that much. But that's my interpretation. It's subjective. I can see your perspective because like I said, you know, I'm watching it. I didn't like quite go full on crying for him. And I easily could have if it was performed maybe. be different. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's, I think that's what it is. I was just kind of like, I feel the frustration, the rage, the sense of, you know, it being so unfair and hypocritical of now suddenly
Starting point is 00:08:04 this guy, you know, oh, cool, dad. You had other children and you wouldn't accept me. You wouldn't take care of me. But now that your other kids are dead and everyone around you has died, suddenly I'm good enough for you. Like, screw that. I get that. So, yeah, I guess I just, I wanted to feel a little bit more in that moment, but it was a really great scene between the two of them, you know, like it was, it was really powerful. And I think it needed to be said. Yeah. You know? Maybe if it was shot differently, that would have helped as well. You know, it was the angles on that were a little bit strange. It was the one thought that kind of occurred to me. But that's very subjective. I personally would have gone for a oneer for that moment. You know, they did a oneer. earlier, just like, I call it a, you know, a TNG moment of when Damon was walking through the castle, the next generation, Star Trek, the next generation. Oh, okay, gotcha, gotcha. Because there were so many shots in Star Trek the next generation of just walking through hallways and, like, delivering, like, lots of dialogue that's just expository, right?
Starting point is 00:09:04 That would have been a scene that I think could have played maybe more effectively if it was a oneer because it was kind of like coverage as opposed to just like having them both kind of him being in this, you know what I mean? Like, feeling like we're part of this intimate conversation. It felt like it was edited. Sure. I don't know. Maybe that was for a good reason. Maybe the performance wasn't quite what the director and editor was looking for and they had to cut it that way. But nonetheless, it had an effect on me. Measurably, not as strong as I would have liked it, but, you know, there was an effect. Yeah. I mean, I think as well, Corliss was giving so much in that moment because
Starting point is 00:09:40 he didn't have, he didn't have to say anything, right? But you could see how all of those words landed on him and like how shitty he felt like the regret i suppose yeah the story that hit me the most that he told was like it was winter time and then he saw his dad with his other son picking out desserts to have fur and wearing fur yeah and he's cold and hungry and i'm like i feel for that kid yeah yeah exactly and and so like that that was really good and like what we were saying while we were watching It's like, he can't, Corlis can't say anything because he's telling the truth. Yeah. Like, he was really shitty to them.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Yeah. And so, you know, you've got two very different perspectives, right? Because you've got Adam on the one hand, he's like, yeah, like, we should let him know who we are. Like, let's try and get involved with him. Like, maybe he'll take care of us now. And Alan's just like, I don't want anything to do with this man. Yeah, I think it's very easy to sort of infer what happened there. If you think about these two growing up, one was taking.
Starting point is 00:10:44 care of the other. Sure, the older one, right? The older one is taking care of the other. And it's like, naturally, the younger brother is going to have more rose-colored glasses on the situation because he essentially had a father figure. Sure. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. So the scene with Alicent and Renera, how did you feel about that scene? I loved it. What did you love about it? I just thought that they were both doing wonderful scene work, like really great acting. on both of their parts. Just as far as acting goes, I thought that it was just done so well.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Like, I could kind of see all of the different layers of emotions that were going on between the two of them. That's easily one of those scenes that it's like, either they blocked out the entire day for this scene or they got it in two takes. Right. You know what I mean? It's not a normal scene.
Starting point is 00:11:40 It feels like one of those things they could spend forever on or they just got it. you know and so it was interesting watching it unfold and it didn't quite have the same impact as when they met up at the church for me but it was still for lack of a better word it was still entertaining you know like that moment of Allison going okay fine you know but I think part of me wasn't as I guess enthusiastic about the scene because I'm like easily one of these two is gonna shift their move I don't know what like okay let's say let's say it's for narrow right She has the opportunity to take Agon's head.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Does she do it? You know what I mean? And how do we feel about it? I think she would, though. I don't know. I think... We haven't seen her, have we seen her do anything like that? No, we haven't.
Starting point is 00:12:28 But I do believe that Reneira is capable of doing what she must do in order to become queen, right? And I think that's the difference that we see at the end there. Like, Allison has had a massive art. in this season where she's gone from adamantly believing in her cause and like Reneira said she basically birthed the whole situation and then now she's like oh I don't want it anymore I think I think I just want to live a normal life and Reneira's right she's like no you don't get to like do all of this and then turn around and be like do you know what I just I think I just want to take it all
Starting point is 00:13:13 back. Alison's like, Control out, delete, please. Yeah, exactly. You don't get to do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:19 And in order to get what you want, you have to make a sacrifice. And she's trying so hard to, like, have her cake and eat it too. And it's like, you know what you have to do. Yeah, it's eye for an eye kind of thing. Kind of.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Yeah. And I, well, she's a son for a son, so. Yeah. And it is beautiful. I thought the scene was really beautiful as well because it's like two,
Starting point is 00:13:41 two old friends coming together and talking to women in a position of power or at least Rainier is and Allison was. And then also two mothers talking about their kids too. The other part that someone could renege on is like Allison says, okay, you know, I'll give in blah, blah, blah, blah. But then when it comes down to it, is she going to fulfill her obligation? So like in my mind, it would be one of two outcomes. Either she renegs on her agreement or she gets killed before she can even fulfill that
Starting point is 00:14:11 agreement or they turn up at the red keep and agon's not there it's like okay yeah damon and his vision and then it being connected to what's her name the daughter who's a clairvoyant and all that i need you to like help me here is she simply clairvoyant and she goes okay pop pop pop pop that's the this is the path ahead this is the story and this is how you fit into it yeah or is she trying to mislead at all to favor her family I don't because she said that Amen sorry Agon
Starting point is 00:14:44 will be on the throne again at some point Yeah but she says it's a wooden throne And so I wonder If he will become King in Esos Instead or like become a king somewhere else
Starting point is 00:14:57 He will not rule the iron throne That's not his destiny Oh okay that makes more sense now And so I'm trying to like Rack my brain It's been ages since I've read Game of Thrones and also watched it, but remember that DeNaris and her brother did live away from the Seven Kingdoms, right?
Starting point is 00:15:20 They lived in free cities. No, I think they were brought there, so I don't know if they have any relation to Egon. They couldn't be because he can't use his dick, so never mind. Yeah. When he explained that whole thing, I'm just like, I don't even know what we're doing here now. Yeah. You're like, I feel... What is the point?
Starting point is 00:15:38 I feel very bad for you. Yeah. Like, I just don't know what the, what are we fighting for at that point, you know? You can't pee properly. I'm terribly sorry for you. That's super inconvenient. I guess I just have such like a male chauvinist brain or something like that. Because it's like, to me, why do you become a spaceman?
Starting point is 00:15:56 So you can fuck this guy so eventually you can fuck a woman. Like, that's it. You just, every ambition is based on the opportunity to be with a woman and be able to be like, I did that. Cool, right? That's it. And it's like, if you're not functional, like, what is the point of anything? That's all.
Starting point is 00:16:15 There is always a point, Jabby Coe. I don't see what it is. You can still be a great person, even though your cock exploded. I don't know what the point is. I lost the plot when he said that. I'm just like, I don't know what we're doing here. The description was pretty horrific, though, to be fair. I was like, ew.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Yeah. I actually really enjoy eating a sausage. Like, I don't want to think about that. I felt bad for him. for the first time in the entire like that was the first time I actually felt bad for him because up until then I didn't I'm like fuck you you're awful but like when he said that I'm like oh gosh okay that's so that's what it takes I wouldn't I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy when they pulled that shit in the first Game of Thrones with that they're really slimy guy
Starting point is 00:16:58 the own gray joy's yeah he messed up gray joy in a real bad way I was just like yo I don't wish that on my worst enemy like that's just ugh that's so messed up. I don't know what like that's the line you know. I don't know because I remember I remember in an earlier episode I was feeling bad for egg on and you were like fuck egg on yeah until he said that now you're like all right feel kind of bad for you yeah that's that's really shitty yeah that's yeah not nice um anyway looking forward to the video game adaptation of house of the dragon the video game adaptation can't wait to see how they play that how that pans out great so much dialogue you guys thanks so much for hanging out i'm jabby kui
Starting point is 00:17:44 this is achara kirk peace out

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