Cinepals - INVINCIBLE 3x8 "I Thought You'd Never Shut Up" Reaction & Review! | Steven Yeun | Sandra Oh | J.K. Simmons
Episode Date: March 13, 2025In Invincible Season 3, Steven Yeun (The Walking Dead, Minari, Okja) returns as Mark Grayson/Invincible, joined by J.K. Simmons (Whiplash, Spider-Man, Juno) as Nolan Grayson/Omni-Man, and Sandra Oh (G...rey's Anatomy, Killing Eve, The Chair) as Debbie Grayson. New additions to the cast include Aaron Paul (Breaking Bad, BoJack Horseman, El Camino) as Powerplex, Simu Liu (Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings, Kim's Convenience, Barbie) as Multi-Paul, and Kate Mara (House of Cards, Fantastic Four, The Martian) as Becky Duvall. The season continues to explore Mark's journey as a superhero, delving into complex relationships and introducing formidable new adversaries. Join us on YouTube at https://www.YouTube.com/@Cinepals for the cutdown reaction or becoming a Patron at www.cinejump.com and get access to the uncut reaction for this movie as well as many other movies and shows! SOCIAL MEDIA ~CINEPALS~ YouTube: @CinePals Insta: https://instagram.com/TheCinePals Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheCinePals
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Heart will be bound to your service, Dark One.
Black and heart?
Have discovered means of conjuring him here.
Whoa.
Who is he talking about?
Because I thought he was talking about Invincible.
Yeah, that's who I thought.
But then when he said blackened heart, I was like, that doesn't sound right.
Because he's still got a good heart, I would imagine.
Or is it because he's willing to kill now?
That's what I thought.
That was the connection I was making.
Yeah, okay, okay.
I got there finally in the end.
I'm physically and emotionally exhausted from that episode.
Emotional damage.
No, it was just like, it was too much, man.
With all of the fighting, like, it hurts me so much when characters that I really love get just
messed up in that way like and also it bystanders it yeah but it was just going like I know it's invincible
and this is the the show we signed up for but like oh my god it was just a lot all of the bone breaking
and like especially when conquest like punched a hole through eve and like punched her jaw off
I was just like, I can't, I'm just, this is too much, too much for me to handle.
She's okay.
I know, thank God.
She worked out.
Yeah.
The actors are still alive.
So they're, yeah, I know.
I know, partway through it, I was like, you're watching an animation at Chara.
You can calm down.
No, but you buy into the reality of it.
I do.
That's the problem.
I'm just like, I don't think that's a problem.
I think that's a natural part of experiencing a story.
When Mufasa died, I cried.
That's a cartoon.
So, you know, every time I watch Mulan, I cry at the ending.
I guess to what you're saying, though, because it's invincible, I sort of like have to
reframe how I'm watching something.
Like, it's still like intense.
But I think that because of season one in particular, none of this really surprises me
anymore.
And it's like you're getting as gross as you can get.
It's like, that's just par for the course at this point.
I'm invested in the characters and their journey.
When something is getting more and more intensely violence, I don't really have a
an enjoyment that I derive out of that
I only enjoy the journey itself
how the characters deal with the consequences
what they aspire towards
and them dealing with what's in their way
the most relatable of things I suppose
and just enjoying their journey
but the aspect of like
the intense violence
I could take it or leave it if it was like not that at all
I would have enjoyed it all the same because I'm on board for the story
I think season one was more gross
if I'm being honest with you.
And I think it was because it was more,
it was on the trajectory
of the escalating violence in the show.
Episode one after the initial credits
has Nolan destroying the entire crew
and it's awful.
And then the end of the season
is him literally taking Mark
and shoving him through people
on the subway and wrecking the city.
And so this was a callback to that.
It was, maybe it was worse in some ways
and especially because you're seeing
like a kid get wrecked.
Yeah. But like for me,
it was about the same, if not more tame compared to season one.
No, I think the season one moment that you're referencing was way more horrific.
This one, because as soon as we saw it come up, we knew exactly what was going to happen.
So it was like, okay, yeah, I know.
And I don't think it was quite as awful because I think the people were more spread out.
There's just something about it being on a train and everybody being in like such close proximity.
So you're like, yeah, you can't go anywhere.
So this was just more like, you know, bits of people just flying around.
I could feel what you were saying, though.
Like, absolutely.
I mean, it was like really pushing that window or pushing the overton window, pushing the edge of the envelope as far as it can.
I'm like, all right, that's not, that part doesn't impress me.
What impresses me is when I can have an emotional response to something happening from these characters that are clearly cartoon characters.
Well, I think, like, the violence combined.
with it happening to characters that I really cared about, it came with an emotional response.
Like I was feeling so distressed watching Conquest stretch Oliver because I'm like, Oliver's a little kid.
I know he's not a real little kid. Like he's a cartoon little kid. But in my mind, I'm like,
that's a real little kid. And you're like hurting him so much. You could kill him. He could die.
That was just so distressing to watch.
I'm glad that they didn't, you know, go that direction.
I don't know if other people felt the same,
but I probably would have been like, what the hell the show?
Everyone's line is different of what they can stomach and what they can bear.
Since we're talking about it anyway, you know, there was that music video, this is America.
Yeah.
And I remember my close friend was using that music video as a sort of,
reaction litmus test for new hosts just to see what they would say and one of the host potential
hosts who came in was like you can we stop this like she literally was like i can't she'd never seen
it before and she's like i can't watch any more of this even though she could speak to her experiences
you know living in america she just like was like i can't i just can't watch this anymore it's
too much for me it's too heavy yeah yeah and so everyone's line is different you know like i
I said, the violence is like, I actually liked the previous episode better. The fight with
Armstrong, I thought, was more fun because it wasn't as focused on violence for me. It was
focused on dynamic movement. Yeah. And like a creative battle of some kind. There was definitely
creative stuff in there that like, if you were to have the man of steel ending fight or I guess,
you know, the fight between Neo and Agent Smith at the end of revolutions, like what would the
damage B to bystanders.
And I guess that hadn't really been explored in the way that this episode did.
And so I think for that, it's interesting.
I just didn't need as much of it, I guess.
Because once the point was made, I was like, yeah, that sucks.
But they kept kind of, you know, putting a hat on a hat for me because, like, they kept
showing us, like, I'm like, I get it.
Like, these guys are freaking powerful.
I was getting frustrated with the fact that, obviously, the writers are going to take
the characters where they want to take them.
They're going to show us what they want to show us.
It's not up to me.
I was getting frustrated as if he's a real person
for not taking this fight
outside of the into space.
It's like take him all the way to the moon.
Like, why are you allowing this fight
to continue to happen on Earth?
He wants you.
He wants your blood.
Like, so if you move that way, he'll follow you.
Go to the moon.
I had the same exact frustration
when he was going up against Powerplex.
It's like, why are you having this battle?
You know he wants you.
Why are you having this battle here?
These people are going to be fine tied up.
They will survive the night.
They're not going to survive if you have the battle right here next to them.
Right.
It just seems astronomically fucking dumb that you're going to stay right next to all these innocent bystanders and have that fight.
For the visual gag, for the, not edge-lording, but the, what do you call it?
The shock value.
Uh-huh.
All right, fine.
If that's your aim, cool.
But I'm getting mad at him for not being a smarter character and trying to, you know,
trying to at least move the fight elsewhere.
That's my gripe more than the violence itself.
That would be my gripe.
It just seems like, okay, that's dumb for the character
just so we can have the shock value.
Yeah.
If he went into space and the guy's like,
ha ha, he got his ass and then drove him back into the earth
and then drove him through people.
I'm like, all right, at least he tried to take it this way.
Yeah, yeah.
Maybe it just needed a moment where you see him trying to like get the hell out.
Yeah.
It's like, no, he's not conquest.
going to let you. So nice try, but no, we're going to have it here with the civilians.
Yeah. I thought it was cool how they brought back Eve. I, you know, I was wondering how
they were going to, how they're going to do that, because I'm like, you can't kill her.
Just that doesn't, there's always a part of me that goes, is it real yet, though?
Yeah, no. I mean, we had the one, right? I feel like you can do.
Rexpload to be specific. Because not wrecks, but rexpload. That's, that's how you discern the two.
Yeah, exactly. So we had one. It's like.
Like, yeah, you can't do two.
That's too many.
They had to build in the excuse right away with her in the hospital room with Mark going,
look, you know, when I was born, they injected me, blah, blah, blah.
But they also put these limiters in place.
Yeah, no, I think that was explored in Adam Eve.
I don't remember that.
But in any case, yeah, so that would explain why her body automatically repaired itself effectively.
Yeah.
And she can't repair someone else.
Yeah, because then the blocks came back into place.
Because you asked me earlier on, like, what it applied?
to like what is the limit of her power and the limit of her power is that she can't affect like
living matter except herself if it's in a desperate situation right yeah yeah but that's just
self-preservation that's just like your body going oh death not yet yeah i feel like if you know
your your body does so much naturally to just like try and help you survive so if you had those
superpowers then yeah completely understandable that it would be a reflexive thing yeah yeah i had thought
that maybe she came back stronger she she she just came back uh healed back to like fresh
fresh sleep well i think like that that moment when she like scorched conquest yeah i think she
she probably still had access to the full range of her powers it's just that it came you know
like afterwards once she stopped glowing he was still he was still able to fight yeah i know that
it weakened him won't give up oh he's a vultramite exactly although i thought that that that scene
where uh you know his face was pressed up against marks and he's telling him like i'm just so
lonely no one wants to be my friend i mean psychotic it was psychotic there was a part of me that
wanted to sympathize and be like oh yeah that must suck well so i'm like you're a dick
that no wonder no one wants to be your friend you wanted to sympathize i do no i saw that moment i was
freaked out i'm like i i can definitively say i've never seen that before of this guy who's
about to murder someone else and he's going and he's giving this thing it's basically all of his
weakness that he is killing as he's killing someone else he's giving he has to have someone he tells
it to so he tells it to a victim who can never repeat it to another soul sure yeah and so i wonder if
That's the limit of that, and it never goes anywhere.
And it's like, that was just a moment that was weird.
Or if that somehow is also going to be added to the arsenal of, here's what we have on
the viltramites.
Maybe.
I mean, I think it's unlikely that it would get added in some capacity.
But, like, you know, he's got firsthand experience with the viltramites multiple times.
He's got to have some kind of thing on their psychology that he can use to his advantage at some
point.
He's not right, though.
He's cracked.
Who are you saying in terms of he?
I'm talking about invincible.
Oh.
Oh, okay.
He's encountered Viltramite battles many times at this point, and his father.
And so he's got to have some kind of thing on their psychology that can assist them in future battles.
Right.
Okay.
So I was talking about conquest.
I was talking about both of them.
He's not, it's like you can't really take what he says too seriously because he's not right in the head, clearly.
Oh, I took it absolutely seriously.
No, but I'm not.
Okay.
Okay.
We're having cross wires again.
What I'm saying is if you're Cecil, right, and you're asking.
him from because like you're talking about like knowing about the
viltramite psyche and blah blah blah blah blah I'm like well you can't really judge what
it is from that specific specimen being conquest because he's not right in the head
okay fair enough yeah that's all I'm saying yeah I don't know but I don't think he's
gonna disclose any information to Cecil I think they're just keeping him alive who
who knows who knows yeah I mean that's the most likely outcome is that he heals and
gets out. And Cecil is naive enough to think that that facility would do damage enough to
keep him suppressed. It's like, dude, did you, did you just see what happened? Like, come on, man.
Yeah. It would take, you know, I don't know. I look at the Vilchamites like the shields in Independence Day
that the aliens were using. The Americans, humanity, threw everything at these ships and nothing
was penetrating. They launched a nuclear missile at the ship and it didn't do anything because
the shield was up you know it's like it's they're so resilient and so I look at the
viltramites the same way it's like how they just seemed like so it's every time it's like one of
them and it's such an arduous battle the only time we had more was when they were dealing with the
the doubles and whatever from um angstrom right overall I think I preferred that episode more
it was more interesting to watch all that unfold and this was more personal I guess it was
just mark and you know conquest the whole episode was
this fight, like the entire episode.
But we had a nice closing out as well, like the emotional closing out, which I think was
really needed for, like, to fully appreciate Rex's sacrifice and like Rudy taking on
his name and all of that.
And then also just like the deepening of the relationship between Mark and Eve.
Yeah.
You know, like I like that as an ending.
Like, this is actually nice because for the ending of a season, I think,
It's really nice to wrap up on a moment where you feel like, oh, yeah, like we won that battle.
We're safe for now.
Yeah.
But then show us all of the other things that we have to be excited or scared for in the next season.
I kind of disagree with you there.
And the reason I do is because I would have been content if they ended on a positive note.
I know that's not this show and that's not the style of this show.
But for me, it just feels like what we get a lot of these days with streaming.
shows, which is you always have to end it on this fucked up-ass thing.
And I'm like, well, why?
Why can't it end on something positive?
And just, it's not like we're not going to watch a season four when you drop it.
You know what I mean?
I think it needs to, I think it still needs to tease something to have us to look forward
to the next season.
The tease.
And then we know, like, okay, so we have the Martians to worry about now.
And then in addition, there's some sort of like evil satanic situation.
Okay, let me ask you a question. Let's say we took out the Santanic thing. Let's say we took out the Martians.
Do you feel like it was wrapped? Did you feel like there's nothing to look forward to? Because Alan and his dad. Okay, we didn't even talk about that. That's true.
Yeah. Okay, fine. But that is one aspect of the show that I'm a little bit annoyed about, to be honest, because I've been waiting. I wanted to see...
Space is big. I know. I get it. But I really wanted to see Nolan and Alan come back, you know?
That's season four. I guess so.
I feel a little bit annoyed because I'm like, come on now, guys.
You had them.
It was really cool.
You had all that stuff in the Viltramite prison.
And then they got free.
And now it's like, they just disappeared.
Yeah.
They're saving it.
So there's a couple things at play.
It's like, okay, the showrunners knew.
I mean, I don't know how much is following the comic books exactly.
So I'm just going off of what I'm seeing here because I haven't read the comic.
But the showrunners knew that they needed something.
strong to end the season on.
So they gave you the Viltramite fight with Conquest, right?
Okay.
But they didn't want to give you the thing with Alan and Omneman yet, right?
So they're teasing it a little bit just to let you know, like, that is in progress,
but that is season four.
And I know that's annoying.
I would have rather seen it here.
That's just what they wanted to do.
That's how they want to tell the story.
They want to push it to the next season.
Maybe because what's coming is so humongous that they have to give themselves more time to do it.
Yeah.
Well, there is that hope, right?
that is exactly what you say,
that it's just going to be bigger and better.
I do feel like with each season,
everything keeps escalating.
The stakes keep getting higher.
Right.
So Alan and Nolan being out there still
was enough of a cliffhanger for me
that I'm like, you can end on something positive
and I'll still come back.
Like there's still things left that I'm like,
well, clearly there's going to be a season four.
We have questions that have yet to be answered.
So I would be like satisfied
if the end of the chapter was
And they made love.
And that's the end of the episode.
We're happy.
It's cool.
Like, let it be for a minute.
Let me have some peace.
Because it's always leaving me in this state of uneasiness of like, oh, God.
It's like, no, there's problems coming.
I'm like, real life is already like that.
Yeah, but that's always the way, though.
It's always like, oh, we have this moment of peace for now.
And it's so precious because the calamity is right around the corner.
Do you remember the end of the Matrix when Neo is like,
I'm going to show these people the world, et cetera, et cetera.
Slam the phone, rage against the machines, flies into the sky.
I got what I needed.
I didn't need a second part of that with the after credits ending, showing that like,
oh, here's what's coming with Agent Smith and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
It's like, there's enough there.
You know, I'm just, I'm taking issue.
I'm taking umbrage with the fact that these shows and movies feel like they always
got to tease us something else.
It's like, just tease us with a commercial one that shit's ready.
You know, that's how I feel about it.
I suppose from a business standpoint, I respect it because it leads to massive speculation, massive conversation about all that stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I personally feel like if you did your show right, there's enough to talk about in there.
There's enough going on within the confines of that season where there should be dialogue happening on forums and whatnot, interpreting and all that and how you feel about it.
That's my feeling about it.
But this is not an invincible issue.
It's just a platform issue in general of like streaming services and shows.
Sure.
you know
sure it's always like
there's extra tease
I'm like
finish it
just finish it
you know
like mortal combat
because I say that
because sometimes
they'll do
go back and watch
Street Fighter the movie
at the very end of it
they got Raul Julia's hand
popping out of the thing
and I'm like
but he died
before production was over
didn't he
like what are you teasing
but anyway
there's a whole other conversation
all I mean to say is
we never got a Street Fighter 2
sometimes they're teasing
sequels
won't come and like glow never got a season four not that that won't happen to invincible i know it's
already going to get a season four i'm just saying like let's just just just kind of like finish it
and you know when the next one comes then have all those teases sure you know sure sure sure that's all
i've gone on a lot i'm sorry you can step off your soapbox now um how'd you feel about the season
yeah as a whole i really enjoyed the season like i said just like every season keeps on on growing
I like the deepening relationships that we're having with the characters.
I love the addition of Oliver.
I think he's so great.
Like he's really added something to the family dynamic by having him there.
And even what's his name?
Paul, Debbie's new boyfriend.
I'm very, I was actually kind of secretly looking forward to a confrontation between Paul and Nolan.
I really want to see that.
Like, I want to see Nolan come back, see Debbie,
and see that Debbie's moved on
and how that's going to pan out
because, like, Paul's cool in all,
but he's no Nolan, you know what I mean?
When Nolan said, okay, what did he say at the end of season two?
What was his last words?
I miss my wife.
Did he say witch wife?
No.
Okay.
So it might not even be Debbie.
Exactly, but, you know, like,
I just a little perverse part of me,
it's like, oh, I want to see Paul.
crap himself and then like get scared and then Nolan just being all like mm and then and then
maybe being like all right Debbie just be happy but you know he would just get killed if
Nolan had a problem oh yeah yeah I mean I hope he doesn't die but I just I just want to see him
like be a little bitch yeah I think that um I wish they found they had found a way to kind of
what you were talking about earlier, to have the Nolan and Alan stuff, just to give us some one more
thing, that would have been my preferred after credits thing here. Yeah, that's what I was waiting
for, actually, for the after credits. I was like, we've gone so many episodes now without
seeing or hearing anything about them. I would have been okay with them just, like, floating
around in space, having an argument or something. Like, that's cool. We didn't get it, and that's
fine. Arguing about the best flavored donuts. Yeah, or like which direction to go or something,
that you know like an old married couple like and just Alan being annoying and Nolan being like
oh god you know they dropped a lot of stuff at the very end of this like they showed you the
the wolf guy getting picked up in space he's a lion a lion whatever you know who I'm talking
about I do yeah you they showed you the lion getting picked up in space uh by these aliens that
we've never seen before they showed you angstrom getting repaired and he's subject to whatever
to their whims for a long time we don't know how long
that goes for at time is relative we don't know like how things work over there and then uh we saw
the demonic thing and then the mars the martians under the ground yeah there's a lot they're setting up a lot
have they said how many seasons are left no i don't know i don't know anything but yeah some of these
things could be wrapped up very quickly and some of them could be like sort of long plot things
because like remember last episode when we had like the whole mummy situation sure that just came
back is like a little thing.
Yeah.
Just as like a little joke.
So who knows?
Who knows what direction they're going to go with this?
I'm disappointed in Cecil for keeping Conquest alive.
That's so frustrating.
But it's so in line with his character though.
It is.
It's not surprising because it is Cecil.
And Cecil's always thinking about like the bigger picture and like the future.
Right.
I just am frustrated.
It's like, dude, did you see?
see what you just went through at the beginning of the season you're going to go through that all
again yeah and so there's that i'm a little bit annoyed with mark for not being like burn his body
now yeah yeah yeah let me watch you burn it yeah like i need to see his remains be discarded
yeah i know that was that was convenient wasn't it to have him leave the room because yeah you're right
if i was there if i was mark i would have stood there and with my hands on my hips and been like
i'm waiting there was that moment on the battle for
field when he was cradling Eve and he called out to him.
I know.
And so I don't know what that means for the character's relationships.
I mean, they're in each other's proximity and talking and like everything seems okay.
No, but like in that moment, the woman that you love is dying.
And the only person yet that you can think of is Cecil.
Right.
And he didn't show up.
No, he didn't.
I wonder why.
It was busy.
Well, the fact that like Mark did.
didn't once more emphasize we're not cool you know at the end of the show i'm like where are they
i'm i'm that's another question mark for me a question mark yeah ha ha ha anyway a question a question
cecil yeah like that's just another question mark for me because that he seemed to trust him when
he left the room he's like burn the body and he walked out i'm like all right you you you you trust him
to do that okay cool you trust him to do that yeah i guess i guess you all are like oh and then not only that
But we have Sinclair making all of, like, the robo invincibles down there.
Uh-huh.
So, I mean, that's going to be a thing that can come back.
Mark's going to be pissed.
But once again, completely in line with who Cecil is.
He's like, oh, we have materials here.
Yeah.
Let's just, you know, make use of it.
I guess it's akin to Iron Man and his iron.
I mean, do you remember Iron Man 3 at all?
Not really.
He, I mean, this is not limited to Iron Man 3, but I think it's the first time we see it where Tony Stark is not, he's not by himself.
He's got a bunch of Iron Man robots basically flying around.
Oh.
And then you kind of saw that in the one of the Spider-Man movies, the one where Iron Man's featured.
Homecoming.
Oh, Homecoming.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, because from two onwards, he's dead.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
And so I suppose it's kind of like that.
Cecil's thinking is in line with Iron Man's thinking.
It's like he wants to put a suit of armor around the world.
Yeah.
So he's just trying to, he's doing the best that he can to help.
Yeah.
Mark's like, burn that body.
Cecil's like, yeah.
Nah, bitch.
Not today.
That's like diamonds and gold right there.
I can't.
I can't just toss that.
No.
No, he can't do that.
Yeah.
But I just think.
Yeah, it's definitely going to bite him in the ass.
I love that in the middle of the battle.
You were like, why don't they run away?
I'm like, Achara, they're running away.
There's nowhere to run.
I know.
I was just frustrated, okay?
I'm just like, why are you standing there?
Just move.
That's probably shock as well.
Get in a car and drive.
Drive somewhere.
Drive to the countryside.
Even if they did, the fight could end up finding them.
No, that's true.
That's true.
I'm sorry.
I was just, listen, I, I,
I cannot be held responsible for most of the things
that came out of my mouth during those moments
because I was very distressed.
Sure. Very.
Yeah.
Anyways, hopefully you guys enjoy that reaction and discussion.
Thanks so much for hanging out.
I'm Jabby Kouye.
This is...
Acharakouk.
Peace out.