Cinepals - LOGAN (2017) Reaction & Review!

Episode Date: July 12, 2024

Achara & Kristen watch "Logan" a gritty, emotional X-Men film that follows an aging Wolverine as he cares for a deteriorating Professor X and protects a young mutant girl who shares his abilities, all while evading dark forces in a dystopian future.   This film is directed by James Mangold (Walk the Line & 3:10 to Yuma) & it stars: Hugh Jackman (The Wolverine & Les Misérables), Patrick Stewart (Star Trek: The Next Generation & X-Men series), Dafne Keen (His Dark Materials & Ana), Boyd Holbrook (Narcos & The Predator), Stephen Merchant (The Office UK & Jojo Rabbit), and Richard E. Grant (Can You Ever Forgive Me? & Withnail and I).   Join our Patreon https://www.Patreon.com/JabyKoay or become a YouTube member for access to full length watchalong reactions! SOCIAL MEDIA: ~CINEPALS~ YouTube: @CinePals Insta: https://instagram.com/TheCinePals Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheCinePals ~ACHARA KIRK~ Twitter & Instagram:  @Acharakirk  YouTube:  @Achara  ~KRISTEN STEPHENSONPINO~ Instagram: @Kris10kesp

Sinha. Pals! What's up, everyone? Welcome back. I'm Acharikirk, joined by Kristen, Stefan Zampino. And we are carrying on with our Marvel X-Men journey with Logan. Kind of like a different little thing, I think. You will enjoy this because we've got Wolverine back.

Logan, everyone's fave. Anywho, without further ado, let's jump into it. Here we go. Oh, my gosh. Oh, that was solid. That was a solid touch, man. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh. You, I feel like we just like X-Men are, like X-Men's dead. Yeah. Pop out. Like a zombie. Yeah. Nope. I didn't get what I wanted.

Wow. Man. Wow They just wiped us out completely Yeah This was definitely goodbye X-Men I like it This was dead

Yeah I feel like it's goodbye too Seeing them that old And then For Charles To be so weak And think it was Wolverine And then be killed

By a Wolverine clone Yeah It's just brutally cruel It really is After he said Everything that he said to and then we didn't even our guy

didn't even get that message like yeah that was so rough I think like I really really loved Patrick Stewart's performance like I love him in like everything

that I see him in but I especially love when he does he kind of leans into the old madness that you know because he is older and then when he kind of

plays a character that is that you know old and feeble and whatever I felt it he brings a beautiful nuance to it And so, yeah, like, when he was saying all that stuff about, like, oh, this was like the best day. I've had a long time.

I was like, oh, it was hitting. Oh, and then he just dies. He was, like, that adorable, pure little old man who could do no harm. But then the thing is, like, there was a lot of regret there. I mean, because I don't know if you caught it. They were talking about it on the radio about that thing that happened in Westchester. And then, like, a lot of people got injured and then, like, six people died or something. And they said, including X-Men.

And then it cut off. I was like, oh, shit, that's what he did. That's why he's trying to, like, rain in his little episodes because they are super dangerous. And so to have that realization of, like, oh, my God, I killed. Not only just killed people, but people that I cared about as well. You know, like to kill your friends or the people that, you know, your students, the people that you help basically to raise up. and then to be responsible for their deaths is a lot. This movie's so heavy, man.

Yeah. Yeah. This was like none of the others. Yeah. Super heavy, super sad. Like, I'm so, like, watching it through the entire thing, I was so depressed. Yeah. And I think, like, when I was, like, watching them as they were older, I'm like,

it's hard. I don't want to see them like that. And then it gave me that realization of real life. And I'm, like, watching these going, oh, my gosh. at some point you know you got to replace certain people and whatever if you're going to use them again because they are actually going to die in real life yeah and then that started making me choked up but I think what also got me the most is the fact that he had Alzheimer's because my grandmother died of Alzheimer's Alzheimer's yeah yeah and that is the most horrendous disease you can possibly

watch somebody go through a care gave for her you know and man like so when they when that's what they gave him. I was like, let it be, let it be, let it be. Like, I felt like I had to talk to myself in my head because he's that father figure. Yeah. To all, right? And even as we're going on this journey, we're in love with this guy because he's so nurturing, he's so loving.

And then I think from going from the one prior to this, you know, we're watching him when he's young and like, that's a solid touch to go from that and then back here. And you're just like, drag me back to the good days. I think it was a cool send-off as. well for the characters. Yeah, it's dark, it's depressing, but also they died protecting what they believed in. And I thought that, you know, they wrote the characters

in a way that was, that felt very truthful to who they have been throughout and in these older iterations of them. I like, it's just like nicely done. It was, I think it was, it was, I like the banter and like the Charles, like changing of like, I don't gonna shit anymore, man, like. Yeah. Gough and you're like, damn, you know.

speak like that before. We never heard and say anything like that. Like he started getting a little more rowdy and like, but you know, I don't blame him for getting that way, especially because he's been living with Wolverine. Yeah. And nobody else.

Like I think anybody would change and morph into, you know, that version. Yes. And I like that they put an underlining for Wolverine as well because like I said, he's been around for centuries. Yeah. And he's never gotten older. You know, he's always healing.

So it was good to say, to show like, no, no, there's an underlining sickness which is not allowing him to be him to his fullest and then allow him to be weak in that manner and fight so hard to the end. I did like that touch. Yeah, otherwise it wouldn't have made sense.

No. Although I kind of wish that they could have explained it a little bit more like what it was like because a part of me goes, yeah, but if his power is healing, healing wouldn't his body heal whatever it is that's killing him, this sickness? but I guess we just have to believe that, you know, there's something that happened. Maybe it's he can't have that.

Oh, we don't even get it ending on this one. Yeah, there's no end credit. They're like, they're like, no, we're done. We're done. This is it. Shit. We're shutting it down. It's over.

Yeah, no, I, but he did say it's the tight thing that's inside of him too. Yeah, it could be. So maybe there's like some type of chemical reaction that's like not. Well, then I don't know. If that's the case, then that's in the future for Laura as well. Like, if, If after a certain number of years, it just actually starts to poison your body. Like, no amount of self-healing is going to help you with that, which is really sad.

There was nothing happy about this. Even the kids being free. They go away. That's the happy ending. I don't feel happy about any of it. I don't feel joy. No. I feel depressed.

I feel cheated. I feel betrayed. But saying all that, though, I still. think it's a fantastic movie it has a different it has a different feel from like the the feel good the superhero always wins no because our past no because our past is gone we're old and we're dying and they're like you're dead now like that's all i feel sorry i'm a little bit bitter no no you get one it was good you get one last hurrah and i thought it wasn't even a hurrah i wish i had a little bit more of a hurrah like maybe at the any like you know it would have been cool yeah go ahead if they had a hurrah in the

sense of we had a few other characters and they're like this is it man and we had like them fighting and they started doing flashbacks of like and when they looked at each other they went into their child versions of them and they're like yeah and then they're like ah and then they all die oh my god i would be bawling my eyes out yeah i would probably wouldn't be able to speak right now i'd be like hyperventilating could you imagine them doing that and they like they they have even mystique okay she should have been in this even if magneto was in this and he was a solid ally like from the like start of

and just you know they're old and they're just worn out and he was a solid ally and he even looked at us and they went something like this at the end and then they were like they kind of like did a backlash of like fighting against each other

but now they're like and then they die together oh my God I would die I feel like you wanted an alternate version of this where it's kind of like the last stand yes because I feel that's what they did but they did it in a depressing manner Yeah.

And it was good. It's valid. I know, but like, you know what? They didn't want to give it. Like, I like, I like, I like, I mean, I'm glad I'm not polling because I probably would go home and I'd still keep like being really upset about it. I feel heartbroken, honestly. Like, I feel like a little hole inside my chest. But I think I kind of like sad movies.

And so I like this. I just wanted a unit, like something that brought me a little more joy at some point. This is not the movie. No. It was so dark, so sad. It was done, like, beautifully. And it was a lot slower pace. Yeah.

Than the majority, than almost, like, all of them. But still, like, super interesting. Yes, I didn't mind it. Yeah. And it's interesting because normally, sometimes I struggle with, like, the slower films and it loses my interest. The only time, the, like, the bad guy in the beginning when he came into the limo. I was so disgusting with him already after a while. And I'm like, dude, you're boring me.

Just get out. You're wasting my time when the scene. you have no right to even speak to our guy like that like how dare you and I was like can Wolverine just be like dude what do you want like get to the point like I was feeling irritated for him going okay well get to the point shut up and give me what's the point yeah what do you want yeah and um that was kind of a fun feeling but then he never did he didn't act out the way he normally would right and he's different now and he's so different and I'm like I'll do it for you and I'm like all right he's out we're good we're good and I'm like I felt like a little

bit of like a chihuahua like yeah yeah yeah we're good we're good you couldn't i got you though and then afterwards as we went down i'm like yeah this movie breaks you yeah it was sad it was sad but the performances was so good though like we already talked about patrick stewart but i thought that hugh jackman also did a fantastic performance like his end monologue before he dies was beautiful like he's such a good actor and i think that's why he's so compelling as Wolverine because yeah he brings the superheroness but he also has this like

vulnerability and you feel like he knows the character so well and at this point we know the character so well you feel all of that history in everything that he's bringing I appreciated it yeah it's funny to think of the first one I watched and I was like what's so cool about him

yeah and now you're like I get it and it's so funny because I think back to the very first one I'm like I mean he's not that special but it's like that story it's his charisma, it's his personality, you know, everything about him. You can't help but love and adore it. I think they did a fantastic job casting his daughter. Yes, Daphne Keynes.

Because she looked like him, she behaved. Yo, she destroyed that role. Yeah. Done. What an amazing young actress. She destroyed it. Yeah. In ways that I don't think any other kid could have pulled that off.

No, she was great. She was fabulous. And also, like, for the majority of the movie, she literally does not say anything. So she's selling us on just her looks alone. And I think it's such a challenging role to play as well because of all of the violence and everything. But I think for a young kid, it's probably, like, not super easy to do that. Yeah. And she killed it.

Like, I think I loved her fighting scenes, honestly. That was wild. embraced it and I was like, I was, I'm like, this child's crazy. Like, she's scary. Well, I mean, I don't know. And I believe the Wolverine in her. Yeah. I was like, you are your daughter's, your father's daughter. And, um, it's really showing. Yeah, but I don't know how much of that, like, as far as the stuff where she's really doing crazy stuff, I imagine that that's probably a stunt double and they did fantastic. But yeah, she was delivering on the face and everything. Yeah. This was good. And I felt so bad for that family.

Yeah, and it was so wholesome. And it takes, like you said, it took us back. It was great for Charles to be like, this is what I remember. Like, this is nice, you know? And I'm like, oh. Yeah. It's so interesting as well that this is the same director as the Wolverine. Interesting.

So I think that was the one that was in Japan. Yeah. You know, it's funny. I was going to bring Japan up and say it had a similar vibe to that. except for with the darkness and then the glor, like the glor. The gore. I was going to compare it to the one in Japan. Oh, interesting. Okay. Because that's the, because I was kind of getting that vibe, but I wasn't sure until you just told me right now and I was like, okay, I was going to say, I was going to

bring that up next and say it was just the way that the killings were, like the killings were was very similar. The vibe and the mood was very similar. Yeah. The darkness was similar, except for Japan had a little bit more light. Yes, I agree. Then I felt like they took that darkness from there and just knocked it up, like, and made it even more dark. I imagine that this one, Logan, because the director also had a hand in writing it, I feel like he was much more involved in the overall vision of it from start to finish. Like this feels like a story that he really wanted to tell about this character and show this like other side to him of like, what if we followed a story. where our favorite heroes are older now and they're kind of falling apart.

Like, what would that story be? And what would the story be if, like, this guy who his whole life has just kind of tried to be a loner suddenly has to be a dad. Like, how would that change? Yeah, that's pretty rough. I think the best part about it

looking so different from all the others is I believed we were in a whole other world. Like, the world changed drastically over the years. Yeah. And it was no longer our typical mutant world. Well, yeah. I mean, it's... And the humanity that we once had as well is no

more. And it's just completely changed into something different. And I actually, I feel like because they changed it so hard, but they also had that link to Japan to kind of make it seem like, okay, we've kind of been in the situation before. I feel like it really did just sell the whole

bullshit of the world happening. All this crap. It's like a future, because like it's set in 2029, right? Like, we're not even there yet. But it's giving us a future where it is really bleak, where we've turned against mutants and we've killed them all to the point where, like, there are no natural-born mutants anymore in the world. And it's like, there's a dark place to be. Like, I don't want that future. I want a future where we're able to live together.

How norly is it that they impregnated these women who never survived the pregnancy with a mutant? Like, that's so sick. Like, that's so sick. But at the same time, even though the mutants' DNA is in there, it doesn't mean you're always going to get a mutant. That's true. So then I'm assuming that the ones that didn't come out with powers, they just executed them. Yeah, probably.

You know what I mean? They seem to just care so little. Yeah. Like that, I thought that was kind of an intense thing to throw in there. I'm like, damn, you guys are really brutal. But then it also doesn't surprise me either because I feel like if this was real and it was like... They probably would. They probably would.

They'd be like, no, we can't treat. these specimens people as children. They're not. They're weapons. And it's like, no, they're children. You have to, they're humans too. You want loyalty. You teach them to be like your child and teach them what you want them to teach. That's how you dominate.

You don't treat them as just whatever. But then I guess they do, but then at the same time, I feel like they do that so they don't get emotionally attached. Right. But if you're already that sick and mental in the head, you wouldn't get attached anyways. And if you're clever, you would pretend and manipulate the situation and make them feel like you care about them, but you really

don't. Yeah. Because clearly he doesn't, you know, and he's still dealt with them for so long that he would be able to do that and they would have done what he wanted if he was smart enough. Exactly. But he's not. So. Well, there you go. Yeah, now. Anyway. Some thoughts. This movie. Dark. Broke our hearts. How did you feel at the end of this one? I think the Wolverine doll at the end kind of, that hurt me. feel like when I saw that I was like because I felt like it was just a once was exactly and a reminder of who he was yeah I don't know how to feel but a part of me I feel like I'm still holding on for hope for them to come back somehow and I'm like don't do that to yourself you know like I I don't

and then I because I don't want it to end I'm authentically in love with X-Man my heart and my soul doesn't want to accept the fact that this is the end. I don't want to, okay? It's not that I don't realize it. It's I don't want to. Yeah, no, I get it. I get it. So that's how I feel about this. Very passionate. Very, very passionate.

Like, I am so damn passionate. I am shocked with myself. I love it. Anyway, you guys, let us know your thoughts in the comments below. We'll see you for the next one. I'm a charicouc. This is Chris and Steph is a Pino, the new Wolverine coming to your town. Sa-sa!

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