Cinepals - THE BOYS 4x4 REACTION & REVIEW! | Karl Urban, Jack Quaid, Antony Starr, Erin Moriarty | Amazon Prime

Episode Date: June 27, 2024

The Boys is back with season 4! Starring Karl Urban (The Lord of The Rings Trilogy, Star Trek, Dredd) as Billy Butcher, Antony Starr (Banshee, Outrageous Fortune) as Homelander, Jack Quaid (The Hunger... Games, Scream) as Hughie Campbell and Erin Moriarty as Starlight. Watch our cutdown reaction on YouTube at https://YouTube.com/@Cinepals or watch the full reaction on Patreon at https://Patreon.com/JabyKoay SOCIAL MEDIA ~CINEPALS~ Twitter & Instagram: @TheCinePals https://www.YouTube.com/@Cinepals ~JABY KOAY~ Twitter & Instagram: @JabyKoay ~ACHARA KIRK~ Twitter & Instagram: @AcharaKirk

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Senna. We're continuing forward with the boys, season four, episode four. I just read today that everything is going to finish with season five. So that might be old news, but I saw it pop up on a suggested article. I was like, oh, okay, good to know. So anyway, let's continue with the show. Here we go. Well, damn.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Well, damn. like he got what he wanted. What did he want out of that scene? Because like he was supposed to go back there for... To kill his humanity. That's all it was? I thought that was dead. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:42 It's like, it's what Barbara said, right? And what we've been saying all along is he has this huge desire to be loved. He seeks approval from those closest to him and those around him. His third voice was all like, no, you're above all of these people. you need to like take out your humanity basically and you need to go back. That whole thing with Starlight, I feel bad for her. Yeah. But like she, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:07 I guess because it's always easy to like sit here and judge. You know what I mean? Or say what you would have done or what's the right move when you're not involved in the situation? I guess if someone was putting my shit on display like that, I don't know necessarily how I would react. I might get emotional and go, you know, ape shit and ballistic on somebody. Right. But like, you know that this is a ploy. Like, they literally set up right outside your camp.
Starting point is 00:01:30 It's so painfully clear what's happening here. To me, as the viewer. To everyone. To everybody. Like, it's, this is exactly what she wanted. And then Starlight gave in almost immediately. It feels like, you know, there are some things that are kind of like, you shouldn't go there. And choosing to do that is a very serious decision.
Starting point is 00:01:49 It was really hard for her, you know? She wasn't out there just being like, yeah, I want to do this thing. It required a lot of thought from her. And ultimately, it's her choice. And those are her personal medical records. And then they're just, you know, outing her like that. Yeah. That's her prerogative, I feel.
Starting point is 00:02:09 If she wanted to share that information, then by all means, that's hers to share. But she didn't. You don't know what you would have done. That's the truth. Like, you don't know what you would do when pushed to that, you know, when you pushed that far. Also, she's been out there for like nearly six hours spewing all of this hateful stuff about. Psychological warfare. Yeah. She's been waterboarding her with all of this stuff literally outside her office and on TV. And so I guess at some point, it's like that's the
Starting point is 00:02:39 final straw. I'm done. Yeah. Story-wise, I guess it's what needed to happen to propel things forward. Things have to get worse before they get better. Right? That's what makes it more interesting because, you know, you're raising the stakes, conflict, etc. It's just that with Starlight superpower, she could have easily wiped out the cameras and did the damage that she wanted to do. Oh my God. I hadn't even thought about that. So I'm like, why didn't you? You know, all the lights were flickering when she was losing her mind. It's like, if she's going like full Super Sai-in, the cameras wouldn't function anymore, right?
Starting point is 00:03:08 That's true. But she wasn't going full Super-Sayan. She was obviously restrained. I'm like, okay. Anyway, I'm having a conflict within myself about that whole thing. Well, but anyway. It's interesting how like our female characters, our two lead female characters, Kimiko and Starlight Annie. They're both having people from their past who have intense hatred and who have vendettas against them resurface and are intent on taking them out.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Yeah. You know? Yeah. And so I'm just like, well, dang, whatever you did, even when you were young and stupid, all of that stuff can come back and haunt you. You know, like they're different people now. One of the things I thought about when this first came up was how. much more awful it is now for young people because if a rumor spreads, well, because it was, it started with, you know, starlight spreading a bad rumor about that lady.
Starting point is 00:04:07 That was really mean. Right now, think about if that happens with social media and like the entire school has access to your profile and, you know, it's like to get bullied today, I feel like could be much worse than it was 15 years ago. Sure. But I think it was still pretty bad for a firecracker. I'm not, no, I'm not taking that away. I'm not mitigating that.
Starting point is 00:04:27 I'm just saying how much more worse and how much more it can be compounded in today's, you know, technology. So. Yeah. But it's like, dang. I don't even fully know what Kimiko was doing. It seemed like she kind of recruited this girl or kidnapped her or whatever and then forced her to fight. And she disfigured her and all of that.
Starting point is 00:04:51 And it's like, yeah, but in that moment, it's not like Kimiko can say, well, I was doing what I had to do in order. to survive, you know? Maybe she was. Well, that's what she was doing, you know? Then people are just angry at you, and you're like, I get it, you know? But please stop trying to hurt me. I'm just trying to be your friend. It's frustrating.
Starting point is 00:05:11 It seems like thematically, you know, people are, in this season, people are trying to make the world better while asking for forgiveness. Sure. You know what I mean? No one's perfect, though. But like, that just keeps coming back, that idea. You're trying to make the world better while asking for forgiveness. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:26 I've fucked it up twice in a row. Do you want to ask for forgiveness? For forgiveness. For forgiveness. Yes. That whole scene with the lab was wildly uncomfortable because you knew what was going to come. You just didn't know exactly how or when. It's almost like a horror film.
Starting point is 00:05:45 I watched a video about this where to do horror right, you have to allow the tension to build. It has to build to a point that makes the audience uncomfortable. Yeah. If you give in too soon, it's not satisfied. Even though it's not something you necessarily want to see, there is something satisfying about horror in that when it's got you like hook, line and sinker and like waiting for it. And it's like making you anxious and squirm because they haven't executed it yet. You know, had they had a homelander gone in there and just went ballistic, that would have been way less satisfying for lack of a better word. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Than what we got, which is like he's like tormenting not just them. He's tormenting us, the audience. he's like your abusive father who comes home and is in a weirdly good mood but you're fully aware that he might turn at any second and so you're walking on eggshells and you're like please don't hurt me please don't hurt me please don't hurt me and then it's like no eventually he will I'm not speaking from experience I'm just like imagining you know just the vibe that I was getting yeah but I I think that's what made it so scary because we know his character, we know his personality from three seasons now. And it's that, it's that scary smile that he does where he's trying to put on a mask and he's going, I'm okay, I'm fine, I'm really fine.
Starting point is 00:07:11 It's like, no, you're not. I'm talking about, like, from a filmmaking standpoint, though, like they built it up very well. They didn't show him get in the elevator. It was talked about in the room and you saw the reaction. Yeah. And the attempt to control the situation leading up to him showing up
Starting point is 00:07:25 and him just like being kind of chill and it's like but you as the audience you know it they all know it's not chill they all know this is gonna this is the day this is the day they were afraid of it's finally here what do we do we can't do anything while I didn't enjoy watching the violence in the scene
Starting point is 00:07:42 while I didn't enjoy the scene just like because it wasn't fun to experience I appreciated it from a filmmaking standpoint in that it was very well done because it made me so uncomfortable in a way that I don't want to revisit. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:07:57 Yeah. It was really rough. And also, it makes me really upset with Vort as well that they would do that to a child. Like, they did that. That was a product of their own making. They took a child and starved him of any positive human contact. And the more we study psychology and childhood and all of that, we come to learn how, important it is for children to receive love and nurturing from from their parents from their
Starting point is 00:08:29 caregivers and like the trauma that you receive as a young child as a baby into like you know however old in your childhood all of that results in you as an adult you know that that informs who you are and how you handle the world and so like yeah they created this monster and then now it's like they're reckoning. I thought they did a good job of explaining something and I never really thought about it. So they covered up a hole that I didn't even realize could be one, which is what kept them there?
Starting point is 00:09:06 If he's so powerful. That's true. If he's so powerful, what kept them there? It's a question I never asked, but it's like, oh, okay, they explained it here. Well, yeah, I mean, you could say the same a lot about abused individuals. A question that people often ask is like,
Starting point is 00:09:21 why are you still there, though? Yeah. You could just leave. And it's like, it's, it's psychological. And the fact that they called in psychologists to manipulate him in that way to domesticate him. Yeah, to domesticate him to cultivate that personality trait of his where he's like, I just want to, you know, make you guys happy.
Starting point is 00:09:42 I want you to love me. Yeah. And that was just so insidious. It's like, God, they really thought of everything. Well, yeah, I mean, there's no other way to, there's no. better way to control someone who could easily overpower you. Yeah. The show ended in a good place where it's got me extremely curious as to what happened with Butcher.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I mean, you keep saying it was a parasite, but so what? Like, then what? Like, how did he get out of that? Here's my thinking. It's not, if you have a parasite, right, it's not in the parasite's best interest for the host to die. And so in that moment where Butcher was being strangled to death, this is my theory.
Starting point is 00:10:24 His parasite was like, I have to save my host because I like it here. And so it came out because we never saw it, right? We just heard the sound. It sounded like the other guy was really scared.
Starting point is 00:10:36 In my imagination, it came out like a big fat snake or something because we've been seeing it in his head and in his body. It came out and was like, and it just like, messed everything up, killed him,
Starting point is 00:10:49 then went back inside and was like, he-he-he-he. You don't know what happened. That's a good theory. That's my theory. I might be wrong. No, no, that's not a bad theory. Hmm. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Well, you have yet to see that. Maybe, maybe, you know, compound V gives you parasites. I know this. I grew up in Asia. So there's also the question of what happened with his father because obviously, you know, Huey didn't do that. Yeah. That was the mom's doing. We've been suspecting his mom for a while.
Starting point is 00:11:18 So she knew about the V and she loaded the father up. that or she had her own V but like where would she get that from that that that introduces more questions because it's like okay so his mom's been out of the picture for a long time decades maybe and then now she comes back and then now there's access to V like what have you been doing mom and she was she was part of that like weird Vort like MLM or whatever selling essential oils. That's true. Right?
Starting point is 00:11:55 That's true. Yeah. It's definitely got you asking questions, me asking questions. I'm wildly curious. And so the show's doing a good job of keeping me engaged and making me want to go on and see what comes next. Because these cliffhangers are strong. So I guess the last thing I'll say before we close us out is just how much I appreciate Butcher. The acting from Carl Urban.
Starting point is 00:12:19 The name, the wrong name keeps popping up into my head. Which one? Kirk Cobain and I'm like, shut up. No. It's like, you know, when a long time ago, I had a girlfriend that was trying to leave her phone number with, on a voicemail. And as she was leaving her phone number, I was whispering in her head the wrong numbers. So she would get fucked up.
Starting point is 00:12:38 You are so mean. That's so livid with me. And I was laughing and I was on the floor literally, literally ruffling. And so I keep trying to say Carl Urban and then the wrong voice keeps popping up into my head saying the wrong name. But anyway, yeah, I really. appreciate his performance in the show, just in general. It's just like, for him alone, it's always worth it to come back.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Yeah. You know? Yeah. He's always, he's always fun. I love his little cheeky chappy persona. Yeah. And then dropping so many creative, just insults and swear words or combinations of words that I would have never thought to use. I love it.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Yeah. You guys, thanks so much for hanging. I'm Jabby Koi. This is. Achara Cook. Peace out.

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