Cinepals - THE FLY (1986) Reaction & Review!
Episode Date: May 2, 2024Kristen & Michael get freaked out by The Fly, a popular sci-fi 80's remake that follows the tragic transformation of scientist Seth Brundle into a grotesque insect-like creature after an experiment go...es awry, exploring themes of identity, love, and the consequences of unchecked ambition. This film stars: Jeff Goldblum (Jurassic Park & Independence Day), Geena Davis (Thelma & Louise, Beetlejuice, & A League of Their Own), John Getz (Blood Simple & The Social Network), Joy Boushel (Videodrome & Happy Birthday to Me). SOCIAL MEDIA: ~CINEPALS~ YouTube: @CinePals Insta: https://instagram.com/TheCinePals Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheCinePals ~KRISTEN STEPHENSONPINO~ Instagram: @Kris10Kesp ~MICHAEL~ Insta: @booseisloose
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Senna.
Pals.
Brundlefly.
Today we're watching The Fly from 1986.
I'm super excited.
I've been told that there's a lot of icky stuff in it.
It's a Cronenberg film.
That's what we're in for right now.
With, brother I do, let's get started.
That's so painful.
This is the most conflicting storyline.
Right.
Full of different emotions I've ever felt in my life.
It was a beautiful sad ending.
That's the end.
That's the end.
We don't find out what happens with the baby or anything.
Yeah, I'm sure she got rid of it.
But does she at that point?
Because, like, he made the point that might be the last piece of him, of human him.
But we don't know if it would have been human, right?
Well, I guess that's true.
But, like, also that increases the likelihood that it just wouldn't have been a viable child.
Because, like, humans as a species, like, what prevents every species from intermingling is how different our.
genetic code is, right? Yeah. And so like it doesn't line up. The puzzle pieces of like another
species and human don't line up so it it's not like a viable offspring. It begs the question,
is his DNA altered enough if it was a fly baby? Is his DNA altered enough that he is a
separate species or considered a separate species that cannot have viable offspring? I guess the
question is, is it polar bear and grizzly bear or is it polar bear and
And tiger.
That is the question.
Because the baby may just be unviable at that point.
I can't answer that question because this film is all over the place and it's wild.
So for the film, it may be that way.
But in reality, I think if it was real, like real, we can't make children with dogs and flies and stuff like that.
So I feel like this is how I'm going to say.
I think that his human sperm got the mix.
and the huge so she's having a human baby
and it was just a mental thing
for them to think that whatever he is now
the fly got mixed up in the sperm
it wouldn't be compatible
I feel like she's going to have a human
she got the human sperm not the fly mixed sperm
your head canon is that she has a human baby
and it lives on to be the only memory of
yes but I don't think she's going to have it
after all that craziness I don't know
I don't know if I'd be able to have that
as a guy who like
has no capacity to carry a child.
I don't know if I'd be able to do that.
It's rough.
This film was done so well.
So well.
Especially for the when they did it.
It is, it was scary.
Really scary?
Yeah, you don't say.
I was not expecting him to come out.
It was so sadly.
I thought her ex-boyfriend was going to come in and be like, look, you know,
they were going to have like this hard moment.
Beautiful moment.
You need to just go tell it.
talk to him, you know, or something, or I don't know.
You gotta have the monster moment.
And then also, yeah, he comes in like a monster.
Did you foresee that happening?
No, there's no way.
There's no way.
It was too mellow.
I'm like stuttering as I say this.
It was really done.
It was a well moment because they didn't do any tension build or anything like that.
You're right.
You did.
You full like almost sent yourself over the table.
I was so scared.
Hey, there's a part of me that was like, don't do it.
Don't do it.
And I was this close.
I wanted to cry.
Because I was so scared.
That's going into the highlight reel.
Oh my God.
I wanted to cry because I was so scared.
I was like, I'm like, I had to like take that deep breath and go, don't you dare cry right now in this reaction just because you got startled.
Meanwhile, I'm sitting here like making casual jokes.
I know.
And you start throwing these jokes out that they normally would have enjoyed.
But due to the fact that I was dying inside, trying not to cry from emotional damage from this film.
It also was like a spitter-sweet like Romeo Juliet.
Yeah, that's the parallel I was drawing.
The timeless love tragedy and David Cronenberg's The Fly.
I don't care how much I love the person.
Their ear falls off in front of me.
I am not hugging that nasty body with the ear gushing goon to my face.
Such.
Would you do that?
Like, I ride this weird line where like I'm not a queasy person, but I'm also a very queasy.
person. It's 50-50 on any given day or under any given event, right? So I feel like under those
circumstances, there would be a very real chance I would just lose whatever meal I had had
just before if that person's ear started falling. You're like, ugh. Yeah, like, you're out here
releasing like digestive fluids. I'd also be releasing digestive fluids, but like I'm not slurping
them back up at the end.
Foo.
That's insane.
I'm super crazy.
I think the storyline, the graphic,
the set designs, all of it was just phenomenal.
Top tier.
And if I was really in love with somebody and they were, like,
hurting and stuff like that, like, I would probably.
Close my eyes and hug up.
Okay.
All right.
But with the most utter disgust in my inner,
in my soul, I'd be like,
and after I left, I'd be like,
But in that moment, I'd put up a front.
I think...
I know I would, but I would be like,
don't think about it, don't think about it, don't think about it.
I love the pureness of their love.
It was beautiful.
Like, this is a really beautiful love story,
and I think that's like what makes it more traumatizing.
I know, and it's such a beautiful love story,
and Veronica loves him so much, unconditionally,
that it's painful to watch,
because we're sitting here going,
I don't know if I'd be able to do that.
Like, I don't know if I'm a big enough, selfless enough person to continue loving someone through that.
And, like, I guess that's the purpose of this film is, like, it causes you to take a deep look at yourself and go, if my loved one was suffering from something like this.
And maybe, you know, not something as esoteric is, like, being turned into a fly or genetically mixed with a fly, but, like, cancer, you know?
Like, like, like having to go through radiation or, you know, these therapies and dying to a disease.
that like wastes the person away
and turns them into someone
unrecognizable to you,
do you still have the ability
to love that person?
Well, it's like those stories
with the people who've gotten deformed
for, you know, getting burns or whatever
and their loved ones continuously stay with them.
But that's what I like about this
because it brings the light of that reality
to life, which is really beautiful.
And I am going to stand by her ex.
Oh, yeah, a staffist.
Staffist.
I'm going to stand with him.
I think when she came out completely terrified and he said,
no, no, are you sure?
And she wanted to go and, you know, dispose of the child in that moment.
I am standing by the fact that I think he was authentically being a good human in that moment to be like, well, whoa, well, hold on.
Because she's having those conflicting dreams where she's like, no, no, no.
You know, she keeps saying, no, stop, stop, stop.
And then it comes out as this, you know, and this nasty creature.
And then she's like, ah, you know, she's scared.
She's just scared and I think he knows her well enough.
Yes, he's like, you know, he's been jealous.
Yes, he was like trying to interfere or whatever.
But at the end of the day, I think he really wanted what was best for her and was like, well, don't be rational.
Calm down.
Like, you know, take a breath.
Don't make these sort of decisions when you're in a highly emotional state.
I appreciate that moment of like, okay, okay, you're going to do it.
I'm just, okay.
You know, and because you know he didn't want her to have that.
He loves her so much.
Scientists, man.
this guy says
Seth he's just kept
going and going I loved
his perception
or his
take on everything
I love that he was cracking jokes
I mean even though like
you know deep down like he's kind of dying
inside you know and it's hurting his feelings
and he's freaking out
but even though he's doing that he's like
okay the scientist in him lives on
and he could not let go
and he was like wow this is fascinating
da da da and I'm like
Like, damn, scientist, man, this is what gets you in trouble.
You're so, this is what always gets them in trouble.
The desperation to see how far it goes for the scientific process.
Like the Hulk.
Yeah.
You know what?
That's the thing I'm going to say.
It's like if you take this film and you pivot it, it's a superhero origin story.
It is.
Like the line between Cronenberg horror and Spider-Man.
No, they got the idea right here.
Right here.
Because like if you think about it, in any of the Spider-Man origin film,
they go through the same exact thing.
Something weird happens, inconsequential, with a bug.
They get bitten by a radioactive spider.
He goes through a teleporter and gets spliced with a fly.
Suddenly realizes he's got crazy strength.
His endurance is increased.
He's like suddenly got a crazy physique, right?
Beat for beat.
It is the same movie.
It is the same movie.
The only difference is tone.
And I just, I think that is just such a beautiful commentary on storytelling.
and film in the fact that these are two vastly dissimilar films
with essentially the same beat-for-beat plot.
Brilliantly said.
Yeah.
I like that.
Yeah.
What he said.
And the crowd goes loud.
Oh, my gosh.
I think this was really beautifully done.
And I'm going to say it over and over and over again.
Practical effects.
Love.
Every time.
Every time.
I'm with you on that one.
Yeah.
I'm on you.
There's something about it
It's more enjoyable
Absolutely
And it's scarier
And like when you do it right
Like this film
This film did every single thing
Right
There is nothing they did wrong in this film
Except for you know
Coming through and scare me like that
No I just kidding
But that's a personal issue
That's a personal issue
That's not a film issue
That's a personal issue
100%.
But it was almost like a little
I don't know
To me
That was kind of like a left like
Let me just
You know what
Let me just destroy this
real quick.
We got to remind you it's a horror film.
I felt like they're in that moment.
They're like, let's spice this up and ump it because you haven't been hurting enough inside.
They were like, let's make your body just jump.
No, I don't know what else to say other than I'm absolutely a fan of this film.
And I'm so glad I never saw it when I was younger because it would have given me a complex and I would have been terrified.
But it also gave me Cosimo like, you know, Cosimo like kind of vibes and like hunchback.
And I'm just like, this was a beautiful story inside and out, filmed amazing, effects, amazing, music on point.
And really well acted.
It was, yes.
I talked about, especially at the beginning, Jeff Goldblum's physicality.
Yeah.
I mean, like, that amount of.
But his eyes.
His eyes were so good.
His eyes, he really owned it because like that amount of prosthetics and everything like that.
Like, it's claustrophobic.
It's hot.
It's a bunch of latex on you.
So, like, his commitment to it and his ability to bring the, like, fly physicality, but also, like, a little bit of set's character and, like, his charm that he had in the beginning of the movie.
And then the eyes, you're right.
The eyes sold it every time.
It's so funny because in the beginning of the film, I just knew it was supposed to be kind of scary and I didn't know anything about this film.
But I thought we were going into this with, like, a mad scientist, which it was.
But, like, I thought he was going to be some type of serial killer.
And this first character, I did not think Veronica was going to stick around very long.
I thought we were going to like, and then we were just going to keep like sucking girls for like some scientist's experiment and then it was wrong or something.
Right.
I don't know.
I didn't, like, my mind was going so many different directions.
Never a million years would I've foreseen what I just saw.
And I am not upset.
I love it.
I'm a huge fan.
It was really great.
I'm a huge fan.
Huge fan.
Top tier.
I would purchase this one, VHS, DVD.
Oh, yeah.
Every form of media possible.
No, I really would.
And I would put it up on my shelf and frame it.
And if I did ever get a chance to meet the entire staff in any shape or form,
I would have the signatures and I would put that up on my wall.
You know, I didn't have the fly becoming Kristen's new favorite film on my bingo card today.
But like, I love it.
I think, I think I'm so thrilled for you.
that you have found, what I believe you're effectively saying is your perfect film.
I've never felt this way about a film where because I'm like, you guys did so good
and made me feel so many different things.
Like, you made me feel love, you made me feel pity, you made me feel scared.
It runs the full gambit.
I felt every single emotion in this film, but not only I can't help, but adore it because
even at the end, I did not want Seth to die.
No.
And I was rooting for him and I was really hoping we were going to find a cure.
I was rooting for like, you know, their love story, even though I was skeptical.
I don't know, because I think I, you know, nowadays we watch these films and we have trust issues because we're like, I don't know, you're going to throw a fast one on me.
But there is something very pure and beautiful about this film that I am like, it's weird.
I want somebody to ask me, what's your favorite film?
And I'm going to say the fly from 1986.
Yeah.
I'm declaring it right now here.
I love it.
This is officially my favorite film I have ever.
See? The Fly
1986. I absolutely appreciate every single
thing about it. I love the labyrinth, okay?
Okay, yeah. I love the labyrinth
and now I love this. For the longest time,
Labyrinth and Gladiator with like my top two, but this is the one.
Nice. You guys, let us know what you think.
In the comments,
do you agree? Is this now your favorite film?
It's fabulous. Has it always been?
Yeah, you let me know. Please.
Pray for me in my
my uh my nightmares tonight
amen
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I'm Michael Boose
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