Cinepals - THE PENGUIN Episode 8 Reaction & Review! | Max | DCU | Colin Farrell

Episode Date: November 11, 2024

Jaby and Cortney continue with the new HBO Max series set in the world of The Batman "The Penguin". The show follows the rise of Oswald Cobblepot, a ruthless and cunning criminal mastermind, as he nav...igates Gotham City's dangerous underworld to solidify his power and become one of its most feared crime lords. The Penguin stars Colin Farrell (In Bruges, The Batman, & The Lobster) as Oswald Cobblepot/The Penguin. Other notable cast members include Cristin Milioti (Palm Springs, How I Met Your Mother, & The Wolf of Wall Street) as Sofia Falcone, and Rhenzy Feliz (Runaways, Encanto, & American Horror Stories) as Victor Aguilar Watch the cutdown reaction on YouTube at www.youtube.com/@cinepals or watch along with Jaby and Cortney on Patreon at www.cinejump.com   SOCIAL MEDIA ~CINEPALS~  YouTube: @CinePals Insta: https://instagram.com/TheCinePals Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheCinePals ~CORTNEY WRIGHT~ Instagram: @CortneyScottWright

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Starting point is 00:01:04 We were watching the penguin in the final episode of the season. Very excited to jump into this. Here we go. I mean, this is up there as like one of the greatest of all time. This is up there as like one of the greatest of all time. all time. What a, what a show. That was incredible. What a show. I mean, golly. We took a quick break, uh, because Courtney had to take a call. I backed it up a little bit because I knew we missed something important. Selina's her half sister. What? That's what it said. That's what, because we
Starting point is 00:01:44 were like, kind of chattering over it a little bit. That's right, because Falcone was her dad. And Falcone killed her mom. Oh, right. Right. So this is one of the best shows I've ever seen, like, just hands down. I'm just like kind of tracing back over it in my mind and just, you know, the ability to kind of trick me again and again, I haven't experienced that since Whiplash, the movie. I know you never saw that completely. That's one of my... Wiplash is my favorite movie of all time, and one of the reasons why
Starting point is 00:02:07 is because of that very thing where I didn't feel like I could predict where I was going to go next. Here, it was a similar thing where I'm like, I kind of have a sense, and then it kept like flipping on me, and I'm like, I love that it kept turning on a dime, like, quick, and I'm like, oh, shit, the acting, the way it's shot, the music, the vibe, the surprises
Starting point is 00:02:23 in the show, like... Just everything. Yeah. Everything about it. It was engaging and incredible. And to your point, like, it kept me guessing. Normally, I can guess everything. Like, I see what's coming. I did not see him killing Vic. On top of that, you know, you have a lot of, like, Marvel properties that, not to, like,
Starting point is 00:02:42 compare or buttheads between, like, DC and Marvel, because I love both. With a lot of Marvel shows, it's, like, a lot of, it's so preoccupied sometimes with fan service. This is not occupied with fan service. It's not, like, trying to hit you with cameos and stuff like that. This is more about we are here to tell the dopest show possible. Here it is. I'm like, good God, thank you. Like, what a feast.
Starting point is 00:03:04 They did it perfectly by just mentioning Selena Kyle's name and then giving us the Batman signal at the end. Like, that was a perfect show. And I never say that. Like, it's very rare. Colin Farrell's performance. Like, you know, one of the things I pay a lot of attention to is reactions from actors who are not allowed to say as much in a scene.
Starting point is 00:03:23 And I mentioned that in the courtroom scene between Oz and that politician. but we had a similar situation early on in the episode where Oz was strapped to a chair and he's got to listen to all this stuff from Sophia and then his mom and it's all just reactions and all of his reactions were fantastic
Starting point is 00:03:38 they didn't feel like used up and it's like everything felt unique if that makes any sense like it's all happening in real time he's got to be one of the best actors ever like his ability to pull this off and make me believe he's that dude you know what I mean going through all that
Starting point is 00:03:53 I think my mind is just overwhelmed Like, I'm just, I'm, I'm flabbergasted by his, not just his performance, but his commitment to, I want to know, did he have to have a chiropractor at the end of this series? Because the way he was walking, I'm like, that cannot, you cannot be, you got to be permanently messed up. But he looked fantastic. Like, it was incredible. The makeup, everything about him, it was just powerful. I want to know how he got that scar across his face, you know? Like, there's so many more stories to tell.
Starting point is 00:04:25 with this character if they you know come back with a season two but to your point like Marvel has never had a show like this that that is so just solid solid yeah yeah I almost don't want a season two just because I'm like I don't don't ruin it just like it's just don't mess this up well I don't think we no no I mean I'm pretty sure it just goes back into the movies again like this is sort of an in-between things to hold us over but it's served as so much more than just a stop gap you know it won't well be on the scope of the of the assignment you know because like these things are supposed to to me when the marvel shows were dropping it was more to just kind of keep us occupied between the movies which are like the big tent pole projects right right this i'm sorry
Starting point is 00:05:07 this is better than the movie like i really like the movie and they maybe should not be compared and maybe it's like apples and oranges but it is the same universe and like this was so gratifying this was incredible and i think that you know like like you're saying you know it's this this opportunity to tell more stories or to prepare you for the next film. So it's almost setting us up for the penguin to be the next big bad in the next movie because it's just like now that we understand who he is and why he thinks the way that he does, that's going to underscore the Batman number two, you know what I mean? And then just think about it.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Once Batman 2 and what if that sets us up and we get another anthology type series, where we're following Selena Kyle. Yeah. And the through line will be Sophia. He really is evil. Dang. Like... He really is.
Starting point is 00:06:03 The way they ended that ship by the river, I'm like, oh, my God. Like, just like, in case you forgot who you were dealing with. It was the kind of vibe I was getting. Like, don't... Let's not get it twisted. He is not a good dude. Right. It was reminding you.
Starting point is 00:06:18 But for me, it was almost like, okay, you lost your mom. I think that was a way to show. us that he actually did mean to kill his brothers. Maybe. Maybe. He actually did mean to kill them because everything he said is about like how family is your weakness and then he takes out Vic. I thought this was going to be like, okay, you're the only thing I have left. You know what I mean? Like you're my and then Vic's like, yeah, you're my family. And I'm like, did he plan to kill him in that moment or did he decide to kill him when Vic said you're my family? It could be. I mean, that's, I think that's yeah. Yeah, it's up to your interpretation at that moment. I believe.
Starting point is 00:06:53 because it could go either way. There's an argument to be made for both. It seemed to hit him, you know, when Vic said, you're my family. Like, there was something that came over his eyes, and it was probably a thought of, like, no, this has to go this way now. You said the thing.
Starting point is 00:07:07 And there's no, there's no, there's no take backsies. Exactly. This is it. This is the path. You're my Achilles heel, you know, because he got in that situation because he loved his mom. That kid went above him. Idolized him.
Starting point is 00:07:20 He saved his life so many times. But that really just goes to show you the power of manipulation, the power of manipulating love. That's what's really scary is he got that kid to love him. And it was all to just facilitate his desires, the outcome of his desires. That was it. The kid ultimately didn't really matter. It was just, it's about the goal. Like eye on the prize kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:07:46 It's like, what can you do for me? It's like the kid really should have left when he had the chance with a girl. But it's almost, you know, it's like that story. like the frog and the scorpion. He had so many opportunities to leave. He did. He decided to stay. And so it was like, if it wasn't this, it was something else down the line.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Like, at some point he was going to get taken out. And I, like, both are bad. I would have rather he, I mean, yeah. So there's no good outcome for him. He decided to stick around because he wanted something. And I feel like there's any number of ways that's could have played out over the, I'm so surprised they did this, man. I'm a nervous.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Because, like, they did what they didn't do in Breaking Bad. Yeah. Because Jesse Pinkman... Jesse's Pinkman was supposed to die. Yeah. I'm devastated. Yeah. Which, okay, so I know I've said before that I went to Comic-Con and I saw this entire cast.
Starting point is 00:08:38 And it makes so much more sense why everybody was giving Victor his flowers, like, on state. You know what I mean? Because that was, like, his only Comic-Con. Oh, my God. I can't believe he killed him. Kristen Milioti. she really did it she really did the damn thing this whole cast was fantastic the except for you know we all know we all know we all know we all we're thinking of but at least us dr julian rush played
Starting point is 00:09:04 yeah i forgot about him i so that's the answer to your question i totally just moved him right off the chestboard yeah the fact that he just first of all the fact that he wasn't there the whole time she was doing all you know like she helped him bring you know jail break oz's mom's mind yeah And then he just vanished until we see him again at the prison. I don't even think she was at Arkham. I think she was in straight prison. Prison. It looked like Arkham.
Starting point is 00:09:28 But it doesn't matter. But he quit Arkham. And now he's back. And like, hey, I got your mail. Like, what? Yeah, I agree with you. You know, who knows? If they do a season two or the films, whatever, he'll be back.
Starting point is 00:09:38 And so we'll see if he's been around. And so I don't know if I don't know if he grows anymore or if he just continues to do that thing that's continuing to get him work. You know, he's in a safe space acting-wise. and it continues to pay the bills, and I respect that hustle. Like, you know, you keep making those Benjamins. You know, however, if they keep paying you for that,
Starting point is 00:09:59 then just go with it, you know? Yeah, stellar cast across the board. I love the direction, the writing, the music, everything. Like, this is such a fantastic show. It was like a long movie with so many amazing twists and turns and surprises along the way.
Starting point is 00:10:12 I just, I cannot believe what we've watched. Man. It feels like we don't deserve it. It's so good. It's so good. Yeah. And I am so. pleasantly surprised at how baffled and surprised we were by everything.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Brilliant. Hands down. You know, immediately for some reason, I was like kind of comparing it to stuff like Sopranos or something. And I don't know. I guess because it's a mafia related thing with the accents and all. And so, you know, the dark ending reminds me of Sopranos as well. That just, anyway, I'm going to go off on a weird tangent again.
Starting point is 00:10:44 We should just wrap this up. I loved it. Loved it, loved it, loved it. Oh, my God. Amazing. Thanks so much. Peace out. If you want to feel more connected to humanity and a little less alone, listen to Beautiful
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