Cinepals - TYLER PERRY'S THE FAMILY THAT PREYS Reaction & Review!

Starting point is 00:00:00 Sina. Pals. After tailing all the votes, the family that praise seemed to be the most popular pick. There were a number of you guys asking us to do, why did I get married to? That'll be coming at some point. But the family that praise seems to be the one that we should tackle next from the Tyler Perry franchises or films. The Tyler Perry cinematic universe.

Starting point is 00:00:17 Yeah, exactly. That said, there have been other films that some of you guys are recommending. Just as a reminder, like, I'm only going off of whatever the popular votes are in the comments. If there's a film not Tyler Perry related that you want us to look at, just please mention it below. and accumulatively, if enough people are asking for it, you know, we'll do it. The family that prays. Let's jump into it.

Starting point is 00:00:35 Here we go. This is great. This is great. That tugged up my heartstrings. Damn. Oof. Wow. Okay.

Starting point is 00:01:03 Yeah, right? I really, really, really like that a lot. That's my favorite Tyler Perry film to date. It hit everything it needed to. I wish it had more Tyler Perry in it. Honestly, yeah. I think this is like the least amount of Tyler Perry we've seen in a Tyler Perry movie. Yeah, that was my one, that was one of two things that kind of are my, I guess, negative critiques.

Starting point is 00:01:22 It's just I want more of him because he added like something to the whole thing. But, like, I just appreciated so much how patient he was with his story. He didn't rush through anything. He, like, he kind of, like, planted all these seeds in a very classic film kind of sense. It's not, like, hitting you over the head or spoon feeding. It's, like, kind of, like, planting these seeds along the way. And, like, you as the audience are, like, kind of picking up on it. Wait a second. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:01:45 And, like, it almost makes you feel, like, more intelligent because you're like, I see, I see where this is. You know what I mean? I fully agree, yeah. Almost like color purple when you saw the blade and we're like, we're both thinking, like, wait a second. Hang on. That's got to be where this is. going. It doesn't go there for a while. Yeah. And so I really, I just, this is fantastic. It was really good. I think the emotional story, like you said, it's set up really nicely and

Starting point is 00:02:06 a testament to the cast and the actors portraying all these people because they really did kind of let us into the inner life and the inner workings of these characters right from the get-go. You know, there were looks and there were small expressions on each and every character that was like, wait a second. Something's a red flag here. Something's going on. So you could kind of see where things were going, but at no point did it feel like really predictable. Yeah. Nor when we figured out what was going on, did it feel cheap or like, okay, we see where this is going. I'm not interested anymore.

Starting point is 00:02:40 I, yeah, there was like a slight, like, I have to kind of like go back on what I was saying earlier, just a hair. Like, I did feel a slight modicum of sympathy for, I should pull up the IMDB, the woman who was cheating on her husband. Oh, yeah, yeah. Just a tad, just because I'm like, they gave us that backstory for her in the kitchen where she's like, look, you know, she, because you understand the psychology of it, you know. Her father left 30 years ago. Yeah. With that as her kind of role model and her foundation, it's like, no wonder she's acting this way, you know.

Starting point is 00:03:15 It makes perfect sense because it goes back to we're always trying to take care of the child inside of us in terms of psychology. If you ever go to therapy, like that's always what it comes down to is like, how did your parents raise you? What were your traumatic points? What was your, um, there's like an event that happens to you where you kind of get stuck, uh, in terms of your emotional or spiritual development. Yeah. Yeah. And so like that was her point. Like that was her, her point where she got stuck was when her father left. And so now she's always got this sort of, um, unhealthy way of looking at things. I'm so reluctant to use this word, but it's the only word I can come up with. It's a very mature

Starting point is 00:03:49 film. Yes. You know? Yes. Because I got used to a certain vibe and a certain approach to things. And All of those are very entertaining and very cool and thought-provoking and interesting and funny. This, like, took it to another level I was not prepared for her. Yeah, yeah, I agree. It really dealt with some, like, later in life drama that people go through. You know, it's not, it's not like the beginnings of a relationship. And I kind of talked about this with why did I get married, but Tyler Perry does a really, really good job of bringing us into established relationships, bringing us into relationships that are no longer in the honeymoof phase. the kind of luster has worn off, and how do adults deal with that?

Starting point is 00:04:30 It's a little heightened in certain ways, like having affairs and a child that isn't your husbands and things like that, but those are still real-world things that happen to real-life couples. And so it's really a great look at relationships as they age and relationships as they mature, and how do you deal with that as you become different people and you sort of mature into your life and does that life still reconcile with the relationship you had at the beginning? I thought that the relationship between Kathy Bates and Alfred.

Starting point is 00:04:59 Yeah. How do you say her name? Alfred Woodard? She's a classic actress. She's been around forever. Yeah. I think the first time I saw her was in Star Trek First Contact.

Starting point is 00:05:09 Oh, yes. Star Trek First Contact, I believe, was the first film I properly watched her in. At least the one I can recall. Oh, yeah, there it is. Star Trek First Contact. Yep, yep. And so...

Starting point is 00:05:18 She's great. Yeah, the relationship between them was fantastic. Oh, it was beautiful. You know. And I really liked, we'd get different points with Charlotte, Kathy Bates' character, where we'd get her as, like, hard-ass businesswoman mom. And then whenever she was with Alice, she was this entirely different person. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:05:37 She got to be a kid again. Yeah. And I'm wondering if that kind of goes back to what you were talking about is, like, we're always looking to satisfy that inner child. I wonder if, you know, Charlotte's relationship with Alice was the only time she got to be, like, a young girl. She got to feel like a kid again, where it's just a couple of girls in this relationship where she's not like hard-ass businesswoman married to, you know, construction billionaires and having to run a Fortune 500 business and things like that. And so I think it was an interesting, like we got to see the heart of who Charlotte is versus the sort of veneer she puts on for everybody else. Yeah, they did a very good job of, in a way, giving us.

Starting point is 00:06:19 a three-dimensional picture of everybody in the movie because even the the guy the the the who runs the construction company her son uh william yeah william even his character like by the end of the movie you understood oh he's following his role model his father who was doing the same thing and this is like a family thing that y'all just do um i'm more i'm very familiar with i mean probably everybody is i'm very familiar with these sort of um philosophies that the rich people have After watching stuff like House of Cards, it's like, oh, no, this is just part of that world. Yeah, this is what we do. You know, like the marriage is.

Starting point is 00:06:53 Have affairs. The marriage is very traditional in the sense of it's an alliance. That's what a marriage was, you know, when it was first introduced into the human species. It's like we were creating alliances here. It's not about love. It's about alliances. It's about wealth. And keeping up appearances.

Starting point is 00:07:11 Exactly. Yeah. Meanwhile, you have this thing over here. um the the um what's her name uh is it Andrea Andrea Andrea yeah Andrea she got her come up and she got her come up and it's real oh my god yeah more than anybody else really she got she got bitch she like over the kid oh my that was the one Tyler Perry moment you know what I mean literally and figuratively yeah like that was that was the one Tyler Perry moment where he's like I have to go all the way we got a you can't you can't have him turn full around and

Starting point is 00:07:44 backhand her over the bar. Because if it was somebody else, it would be like, oh, she just stumbles back a little bit. It's like, no, she flew over that thing. She flew. You know, like, we were watching Color Purple the other day, and, you know, you have your Spielberg moments where it's like, okay, that's a little cheeky.

Starting point is 00:08:01 It probably doesn't belong in this movie with the tone you set up. But here, it's like, because it's very grounded. Yes. This is like the most grounded Tyler Perry film that we've seen so far. It's not over the top. It's not like, like, like witty banter. her back and forth. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:08:16 It's like real people, real relationships. Yeah. And then we have him just sending her ass. Exactly. Oh my God. Yeah, that was great, though. It was like, it was a perfect moment. It was, because it's kind of the climax of the film, if you think about it.

Starting point is 00:08:29 Yeah, for sure. So, yeah, just as a whole, it, I really got invested in all the characters and I felt for them. The guy who plays Chris Rockman Dunbar, I thought did a great job of being that dude who's just like, he just genuinely loves his wife. And he just cares about her, and he cares about trying to take his family to the next level. Yes. You know, and he gets hit in a real bad way that a lot of people have, you know, man or woman.

Starting point is 00:08:56 Like, you know, we've all, not all of us, but a lot of us have dealt with that kind of situation. And it really just, it's so devastating, you know. Yeah, I agree. And, you know, it's, he wanted to be able to provide for his family and he wanted to be able to provide something better for his family. And it wasn't ever him trying to be William Cartwright. Like that's never what he wanted. He was like, ah, we're always going to be a small business, but he wanted to be able to make something for himself rather than feeling like he was always living off of William Cartwright via, you know, him working for the company and also Andrea working for them. And then her constant nettling of like, why you always want to be like William Cartwright, why are you trying to be like it, like clearly not understanding who he is to his core.

Starting point is 00:09:39 and really just like sending very early signals that that's who she wants him to be. Yeah. And she wants to be with William Cartwright. Yeah. So she's like, how dare you try and be him even though that's what she wants. She, yeah, like, I go back and forth about her in my heart because I'm like, I'm going back over the course of the film, there was not a single ounce of I feel bad. No. Never.

Starting point is 00:10:02 She never felt bad. Not one modicum. Uh-uh. Like, she doesn't greet her husband very well. She's not giving him any love. She's, I don't like, I'm like, why are you still married? Why are you still stringing him along for all these years? Like, that's just so messed up.

Starting point is 00:10:17 You basically have a glorified, I don't know, a babysitter, because it wasn't even him babysitting. Like, it was her sister doing the babysitting, and she wasn't even appreciative of that. It's like, just very, for lack of a better word, she's very spoiled. Yeah, yeah, definitely. But I did understand where she was coming from, and that was one of the golden things about this movie is like, it really gave you the per. It puts you in the driver's seat of everyone, you know, and so you understood. That's, it takes a, to me, that's strong writing, you know, that you're able to get the psychology in like a 3D view of everybody as the story goes.

Starting point is 00:10:51 And you can understand everybody. Even though, like, I do not sympathize with Andrea at all, you make a good point. Like, she has that story of dad leaving, and, like, you can kind of understand why she wants better, why she's always seeking and doesn't think that their life that they had was good. You understand everybody. You even understand William. Yeah. Like, to their core.

Starting point is 00:11:14 Yeah. I almost wish the movie was, it's like, it's, it's a, it's tight. It's a very tight movie for what it's doing, you know. It hits every single beat that it needs to over the course of the story, minus the fact that I wish we got more Tyler Perry in the film. We need more Tyler Perry beats. My question to you is, do you feel like we got enough of Taraji Head? and Robin Givens.

Starting point is 00:11:41 Because, like, their characters, like I said, everyone was built very well, so they were all interesting characters. I guess they all kind of served their purpose in facilitating, telling the story that Tyler Perry wanted to tell. Yes. And so, yeah. I think they were not the main focus. They were kind of there to be, like you said, a little bit more of the moral sounding board. You made a good point as we were starting that Tyler Perry's characters are usually the ones that are there to reign the other characters. in and kind of provide that real life perspective on things.

Starting point is 00:12:13 And so, you know, they're not the main point. So, wow, we would have maybe liked to see a little bit more of them and maybe more of Trasj P. Henson's characters, like, effort to reconcile with her sister rather than just being there to be like, man, she is so evil. That would have been nice. But that wasn't like what the core of the film was about, I think. Right, right. The one other criticism I had that I was holding back on talking about was Nick's character,

Starting point is 00:12:37 a Sebastian Siegel like that was just sort of weird I guess it was planted early on and I guess there is a sort of like arc to the whole thing

Starting point is 00:12:48 he figures out a way to come back to reality or he escapes all of the whatever that was that was keeping him on the streets right right right right that was off camera like that was so weird to me

Starting point is 00:13:02 the whole thing with him was so weird to me it was a little deus ex machinae yeah like that I don't know if you've seen or all of you have come across those like you know vertical short form like TV show I know someone who's in that yeah oh my god they're like melodramas that's always like I fell in love with a millionaire who lived on the street and wasn't a millionaire and I didn't realize he was a millionaire like it does feel kind of like that sort of trope so you know my short film Love Punch Kill yes the guy who plays the bad guy is frequently in those now as a result of Love Punch Kill that's incredible he is frequently in those now. Wow, there you go. Amazing. Yeah, it did feel sort of that kind of melodramatic, like, oh, he was a millionaire in disguise

Starting point is 00:13:44 the whole time kind of thing. And I mean, like you said, they set it up kind of early, especially with her saying, you know, you've got to be nice to all people because you never know when you're being nice to be an angel in disguise. Oh, yeah, that's true. She straight up told us. That's true. Straight up told us.

Starting point is 00:14:01 It was the element was, oh yeah, he's been giving me advice this whole time. I'm like, okay, hold on. Advice on what? Financial advice. I know, I know. I caught that. But, like, at the beginning when he was giving her advice and just pointing at the papers, I was like, are you telling her what horses to bet on?

Starting point is 00:14:17 Like, oh, my God, it was the cavalry company. He was technically telling her to bet on horses. Okay, Tyler Perry, I don't know if that was intentional or not, but, ah, that makes me mad in, like, the best way. Walk me through this. Walk me through this. What happened? Right. So, so when we first meet Nick, they're in the diner, and then he cleans up, and Tarasch Pete Henson's character comes out, and he's talking to her and he's pointing, like, put it on this one, right? And he's pointing to, like, things in the paper. He's, like, put it on this one. So I'm like, oh, he's having her bed on horses. Oh. And he was like, it's a sure thing or something like that. And I was like, oh, she's, this is how he lost his way. He's got, like, a horse betting addiction, like a gambling addiction or something like that. and then she just nonchalantly just handed the piece of paper to her daughter and she put it behind the counter and they didn't talk about it so i was sitting here thinking oh he's betting on horses he's telling her like this is a sure thing and she's just humoring him right he was actually giving her sound financial advice to invest in a like holding company that's called the cavalry company which is horse warfare oh which is horses okay so again i don't know if it was an intentional thing that just happened but like if

Starting point is 00:15:34 If it is intentional, Tyler Perry, your level of detail is insane. Yeah. No, it works. Like, I'm just being a little snob. Yeah. Because I'm like, it works. It's just weird to me. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:15:48 It's a movie trope. Yeah. It's like, it was slightly hammy, I guess, when, you know, he's got the remax thing he just bought. And they couldn't do a third take of just like, kind of looking around for a second. It's like, did they only have two minutes? Nodding happily. Like, yo, we got. We got one minute of film left in the gate.

Starting point is 00:16:06 We got to go. Like, we got to go. Get it done. You know, so I don't know what happened there, but it's like maybe that was the best he could do. I did a short film a long time ago. It was an action short, and I had to spend one hour of the 12 that I had on this dude's close up to get him to do a subtle look. Oh, no.

Starting point is 00:16:26 And it was like it ate into the time I had to shoot the fight scenes. Right. So sometimes, like, you have an actor where you're like, I, this. They do work otherwise, but then you get stuck on this one little... Yeah, the moment you get in tight, you're like, oh, I don't know if we're doing this, right? Yeah, and so I don't even, I wonder how much, it's like he probably, Tyler Perry probably just made a call and he's like, people aren't going to care. We're at the end of the movie. It'll be fine.

Starting point is 00:16:49 This works enough. We got to go. Keep it moving. You know? Onward to glory. Get it done. Yeah, because he's in charge of like every aspect of the film, basically. So I get it.

Starting point is 00:16:58 But yeah, anyway, music was also strong. I thought the music was nice. It helped, like, really guide the. emotions. That's a big pet peeve of mine. If the music is trying too hard to guide my emotions, I will have a problem with it. And I think that it did just enough to get me there, you know, and help me through to understanding what's going on with the characters and everything like that.

Starting point is 00:17:16 It was also very patient with the way he shot and edited, like, right from the start with the church scene when, oh my God, yeah, the slow pan, I was just thinking about that scene. I thought that was great. All of that was really cool. And the confidence in Kathy Bates and Kathy Bates' own talent. And I said this at the time, to just be able to sit in that. and live in that scene and not cut away. Phenomenal.

Starting point is 00:17:38 Like, that is talent right there, and that is also trust in your actor. Yeah. Y'all, thanks so much for hanging with us. Hopefully you enjoyed that. I am Jabby Kauai. This is Michael Boose. Peace out.

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Cinepals - TYLER PERRY'S THE FAMILY THAT PREYS Reaction & Review!

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