Cinepals - Tyler Perry's WHY DID I GET MARRIED TOO Movie Reaction & Review!

Episode Date: October 16, 2024

Jaby and Michael dive into the sequel to Tyler Perry's Why Did I Get Married?, where four couples come together for their annual vacation, only to face unexpected challenges that put their marriages t...o the test. Directed by Tyler Perry and starring Tyler Perry (Madea series & A Fall From Grace), Janet Jackson (Poetic Justice & For Colored Girls), Jill Scott (Black Panther & First Wives Club), Malik Yoba (Cool Runnings & Empire), Sharon Leal (Dreamgirls & Supergirl), Michael Jai White (Spawn & The Dark Knight), Tasha Smith (Empire & Daddy’s Little Girls), and Richard T. Jones (The Wood & Vantage Point). Watch the cutdown reaction on YouTube at www.youtube.com/@cinepals or watch along with Jaby and Michael on Patreon at www.cinejump.com SOCIAL MEDIA ~CINEPALS~  YouTube: @CinePals Insta: https://instagram.com/TheCinePals Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheCinePals ~MICHAEL BOOSE~ Insta: @BooseIsLoose

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Sina. Pals. I always look at the votes again just to see what is the most popular. And a lot of people were asking us to do the follow-up to, why did I get married? And so we're looking at Tyler Perry's, why did I get married to? We're going to see what drama follows the first installment. I'm actually quite curious to see where they take it because... Where can we go from there?
Starting point is 00:00:16 It seemed like the first film left off in a good spot. It's like, oh, cool, like there's hope there. And that's one of the things I said in the conversation. So I'm like, okay, what do we do? Is it like a video game where you just kind of reset everybody's X-Bee? Everybody goes back to one, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. Hi.
Starting point is 00:00:37 I'm so sorry to bombard you this way. I'm Daniel Franklin. No way! Professor, your lecture today was really amazing. And I also wanted to let you know that your books helped me get through a pretty tough divorce. This is Tyler Perry leaning into his tropes. And I was also wondering...
Starting point is 00:00:55 What the hell? You thought it would be too forward if I asked you out to get some coffee. this is so weird what i don't know if you caught on but tyler parry's got this thing that he's been accused of where oh he's always got the the yeah the dark skin black dude uh-huh who's the bad guy and then she gets rescued by the light skin black guy is that him him being a little tongue in cheek and being like i got a lot of feelings so yeah let me let me let me let me say this i really appreciated the trials the film was taking our characters on i thought That was really fascinating.
Starting point is 00:01:30 I thought that, like, it was bold. It was like, whoa, okay, this is not what I was expecting from this movie. You know, it took whatever that dinner scene was, and then it went to a whole other level. To 11. I was like, whoa, okay, cool. Like, this is getting real. But then at the, like, at the very last 10 minutes of the movie, it just got weird. And it kind of just fumbled the ball.
Starting point is 00:01:51 And it's almost like, Tyler Perry got to the end of that script and was like, I kind of don't know what to do with this. You know? I agree. Because it was all. kind of up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up. Yeah. Amping up the relationship drama, amping up everybody's mental states, amping up, like, the stakes.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Yeah. And then it just stopped. Yeah. Like, we didn't get a resolution. It didn't feel like the characters learned their lessons like they did in the first one. I mean, like, kind of, a little bit. But it really was just like... It wrapped up real neat.
Starting point is 00:02:22 It wrapped up real neat. Like, Janet Jackson goes on a massive tear in, like, in parallel to Gavin's massive tear and then is like fix this you don't want to end up like me and then everybody's fine yeah that was weird it was weird yeah i think i think it was mainly the third act that had an issue with because everything else everything else was great i thought that was fascinating like they had they had us asking questions with with mike like what's his deal what's going on with him why is he so introspective all of a sudden yeah and like he's going through something where they took his character was was better than i could have predicted because i thought you know he was going
Starting point is 00:02:57 to come in and, like, rescue her. Mike's character had a really full arc. Yeah. Like, Mike's character was the most satisfying arc, I think, out of the film, which was a real surprise because he was just flat out an asshole during the first film. Yeah. And so it was kind of nice to see him come in and, like, have levels. Yeah, have levels.
Starting point is 00:03:16 And, like, still be a dick. Yeah. But, you know, we got a little bit more of the emotion out of him. And we got to see a little bit more of, like, that hurt of realizing that he lost a good thing. And, like, he's not going to get it. back this movie helped make so much more sense of the of the relationship in the first film yes because i was like what how did we get here and this film kind of answered that question
Starting point is 00:03:37 indirectly it's like oh not only did we understand how they got there but we understood like just how how like ugly that past is yeah um i was like oh shit okay cool like there's a lot that she had to heal from that like that basically was a um what he called like stockholm syndrome you know because she was going through a lot and we just didn't know yeah so yeah i thought i thought they expanded nicely. The whole thing with the emotional cheating, I thought was, I thought that all the stuff they were setting up and building was fantastic. I just have to reiterate it. Like, it was really, really strong. And even the stuff that made me uncomfortable, I was like, I, I won't say that I liked it, because I didn't like seeing these characters go through that. But I appreciated
Starting point is 00:04:18 objectively of like, oh, wow, like, it's so cool that they're taking these characters into place that I couldn't have possibly foreseen. Yeah. You, for me, anyway, like, I can see everybody's perspective, and I think that's really neat. You know, they all feel like three-dimensional people. Yeah. But, like, that ending just kind of was like, what? I feel like it just kind of wiped everything under the rug. Like I said, we didn't get anything satisfying.
Starting point is 00:04:39 We just got conflict and we got no resolution. Yeah. And then Tyler Perry's looking at the runtime and being like, ah, shoot, I got to wrap this up. I guess we'll just have this, like, tied off neatly in a bow. Yeah. Because I agree. The stuff they did was really good. That whole scene with Gavin and Patricia after he walks in with the vodka bottle made
Starting point is 00:04:56 me so uncomfortable but like in the best way that film should yeah like it was done in such a way that it made my skin crawl but I couldn't look away and that is really good conflict yeah but it wasn't at all resolved because instead of him having to come to terms with like being a bad person and doing something horrible to his wife yeah she just went out and and basically did something similar to him at his job and then he gets taken out and doesn't have to come to grips with anything. I like the idea of it. I just don't think it was earned very well.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Like there was something about it that just didn't feel right and I can't quite put my finger on it. I'd have to like study that. I'd have to watch this movie a second time to understand why I didn't like that in terms of the execution, but I like the idea. Because it's like, you know, you have this fight and it's like, oh, you know, F you, F you, F you, F you,
Starting point is 00:05:50 like, you're this, you're that, and all this name calling and then the person dies and you're like, wait, whoa, what of it? What have I done? Yeah, and then you're kind of backtracking and looking at everything leading up to that moment and realizing all the shitty things you were doing up to that moment, even if you were in the right. Right. Like, because she was, she was in the right for the most part. For the most part.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Yeah. Like, I also felt like her being in the right was cheapened a little bit by her appearance at his job. She was angry. She was angry. Yeah. But, like, I don't know. She was being vindictive as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:19 And I just, I felt like that wasn't where we were going with her throughout the film because Gavin was very much being the vindictive. one well okay the I'll tell you what the problem is the problem is you got this scene with her and her girlfriends yeah yeah yeah you had to pick one you can't you couldn't it's like you hide either you have the scene with the girlfriends or you have the scene where he gets killed and then that's the direction because like
Starting point is 00:06:40 yeah it's I mean maybe he was trying to surprise you maybe he's like oh you have the scene with the girlfriends and then your expectation is everything works itself out okay you can do that and then he gets killed if you want to but like her coming at the job and then you know raising hell that way it just it did feel
Starting point is 00:06:56 strange. I don't feel like those two go together in the same movie. Unless something sets her off for some reason. Like you didn't, it wasn't built. You know? Like imagine, imagine if you will, a scene where like the girls are like she finally is okay and it's kind of psychotic to be honest with you, but she's okay and they're hugging
Starting point is 00:07:13 and everything's cool. Camera's pushing in slowly but there's like this thing in her eyes that something's just not right. It's a setup. Yeah. It's to let us know like something's still off and then you see like how things are still off. It just wasn't set up. I think that's the issue more than anything.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Yeah, I agree. Great acting, though. A phenomenal work from Janet Jackson and everybody as a whole. I mean, the ensemble, once again, really killed it in this one. Yeah. But yeah, Janet Jackson, obviously, credit were credits do. She did phenomenally, especially in, like, the later, like, very heightened emotional scenes. And again, she was just as much a part of that, like, vodka bottle scene as I keep referring to it as the guy playing Gavin was to,
Starting point is 00:07:55 bring that discomfort and the both of them were incredible for that very very long take so um after shooting these reactions um and then we edit them right i go through these edits and like really fine tune them and so i almost am rewatching these movies i'm going through all the story beats and all the acting and all that stuff and so every film we've watched i've kind of watched it a second or third time right right and so i have a more comprehensive understanding of tyler perry's uh tells now and i can see when he's wearing a lot of hats and stressed out. I can see like when he's doing, like that scene on the beach,
Starting point is 00:08:31 he was like, he was overdoing it because he's, he's the writer, he's the director, he's the producer, he's one of the stars. There's a lot going on. Like you compare that beach scene with the scene in bed when he finds out she's emotionally cheating.
Starting point is 00:08:45 The acting is like two completely different actors. Not in terms of character, but just in terms of performance and quality performance. Like his performance in that scene when he's hurt, it's like, whoa, like I feel like I'm accessing him right now emotionally, and that's awesome. I felt real.
Starting point is 00:08:59 That stuff on the beach, I felt like he was overdoing it. Yeah, it was just, it was kind of, it felt like we were pushing the conversation a bit too much, and he was just trying to be the funny guy. And, like, for a little bit, I got the sense that it was a character choice where he's just trying to, like, make everybody okay that, like, Mike's here, and we're fine, everything's fine, everything's good from the last one. So I could see where that comes in in a character perspective, but yeah, I figured looking at it that closely and going back through it with the fine two. comb you can start to see where the like many creative hats as you said are starting to to wear I had a point I was going to make I'm sorry after your point but that's a okay we'll see if I actually get to it I probably won't that's usually how it goes
Starting point is 00:09:40 it'll come back to me in a cold sweat oh maybe no I thought I had it it was something oh yeah I remember what it is so the the thing with Troy and And him struggling to find work and struggling to support their family. There is a small detail in the first, why did I get married, that I noted and was waiting for it to come up and it never did. When she first meets him in the police station, behind her in all of her coverage are these newspaper articles that have Troy's face on them talking about a millionaire businessman who gave up his career or whatever and retired to become a cop.
Starting point is 00:10:26 So I kept waiting for their storyline originally for him to be this downhold cop who's like, actually, I'm a millionaire. I just retired when my dad died and now I live in Colorado. So I was like, okay, maybe that's going to come up again in this one. It never did. So correct me if I'm wrong in the comments. Did I misread that? Was I seeing a different character?
Starting point is 00:10:45 But I'm almost certain that they subtly set up in the first one that he is. some sort of like secret millionaire that was just a cop I mean and maybe we just got rid of that but I kept waiting for it to come back I think they just got rid of it you know when George Lucas wrote you know Star Wars it wasn't called a new hope it wasn't called episode 4
Starting point is 00:11:05 and he did not know that Luke and Leah were brother and sister yeah that's the important part that I needed to drive at because things just change you know as you have installments it's like well what is what is more convenient for the conflict that he wants to engineer in this movie yeah I thought he did such a good job of setting things up and like taking me like making me quite curious the film took a second to get to get going like in the beginning i was like okay okay let's see where this goes let's see where this goes and then and then it started to get going once richard t jones showed up that's when i felt the film
Starting point is 00:11:34 yeah go into into fifth gear and i'm like okay cool and i was i was with it i thought the thing with the old couple was going to come back that never came back nope nope nope future jabby here i just wanted to add something to the discussion that you're watching i'm editing it right now something dawned on me while going through this a second time. Really, I go through it two, three, four, five a lot times to make these edits as nice and tight as possible. I hope you guys liked it because this one was especially challenging. Anyway, that's not the point of this. Interjection. What I wanted to add was I realized after the fact what the whole point was of the older couple and their story, how it connects to the main characters. Most of you probably know this.
Starting point is 00:12:13 I wanted to let you guys know that I figured it out. It's not one-to-one. It's not direct. But there is a similarity in that a wife loses her husband and then finds someone else. With the older couple, they were friends beforehand. And in Janet Jackson's case, she didn't know Dwayne the Rugg Johnson beforehand. But in both instances, the female part of that couple loses their first husband, and then they meet someone else. And everything works out. And it's beautiful and blissful and blah, blah, blah. That's the connection there.
Starting point is 00:12:46 If, you know, if you didn't know, now you know. He usually has, like, lessons in his movies that I can got to take home and eat. And I'm like, okay, cool. Like, I get that. That didn't happen here. No. You know, even in boo, there was a lesson at the end. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:59 I agree. And I think that's, again, part of the reason why the third act felt so flat comparatively is because nobody learned a lesson and we didn't really have, like, a moral thing of, like, this is how relationships work and this is how you work within relationships. Yeah. You know, I really thought when they were like, okay, we're getting a divorce. We were going to get a look at what divorce can be,
Starting point is 00:13:20 and it can be stressful, but this is how you love each other through a divorce, right? That's kind of what I was seeing coming, and then, you know, it became kind of ire and piss and vinegar and spite. And so it really ratcheted it up to 100, and we kind of lost that lesson that we could have had. You know what's interesting is when the scene, where the girls, you know, go to Janet Jackson's place.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Yeah. Like, they're just there for her, Like, is it cool if we just stay? Around that time, I was thinking to myself, why is it like, this film didn't get nominated for anything Oscar-wise? Because they're delivering some good stuff here. And I'm like, why would, like, this is on par with American Beauty as far as I can tell. Why isn't it getting any nominations?
Starting point is 00:14:03 And then the film went that way. Yep. And I was like, yep. All right. I'm going to just keep that to myself. Understood. Like, dang, you had me. Because this, in many ways, this was actually best.
Starting point is 00:14:16 the first one. I was like, oh my God, like this is actually going somewhere. Like, whoa. Yeah. It's doing some real character stuff. I was kind of joking about The Godfather, but that scene when Janet Jackson was like beating up the place. Oh my God, incredible. Talia Shire has a scene just like that in The Godfather, and it's a real turning point in the movie. Yeah, you're right. I second that. Her performance is incredible. She just was, like, cracked, like something. She just lost it. She full snapped. Yeah. And I, the film was legit making me feel uneasy about everything going on with them. And it's like, that's how much I was buying into what they were going through.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Yeah. You know, it's like, it's uncomfortable because it felt so fucking real. I think that's what it is. And it makes me want to ask Tyler Perry so many questions about, where the hell did you get this? Yeah, right. Where do you find this in your mind? And he writes really good relationships, but he also writes really, really incredible extreme drama. Yes. So this kind of is the melding of the two, I would say. And it hummed. It hummed for a while. It's just, it didn't necessarily stick the landing for me. No, unfortunately. But it definitely left some, it left an impression on me.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Yeah. Even though I didn't like the ending, it left an impression on me. I guess in the same way, like, some of his other films have. I think that the family that prays might still be my favorite one. Because, like, I want to, I have to give these things time to, like, to have my list. I haven't, I haven't gone through, as of this, I haven't gone through the family that prays yet a second time. Yeah, like, even, it's so funny because, like, while the end. endings, like the worst of the endings that I've seen so far from Tyler Perry.
Starting point is 00:15:47 There are things that it did that is, like, remarkable and will stay with me. Yeah, yeah, for sure. That's wild. That's a wild dichotomy to have in the same period. You've got, like, like, two sides of the spectrum, you know, things that are going to last with you forever and things that are like, wow, man, I wish it could have been a little bit better. Yeah, the only other time I can recall having this instance is, um, Sicario. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Did you like Sicario? I liked Sicario, but I know exactly what you're talking. Yeah, like I was, I was, as I was watching Sicario, I was like, this could be my new favorite movie. And then the third act happens. And I was like, what is going on? Anyway, I won't ruin it for you in case you haven't seen it. You guys, thanks so much for hanging out. I'm Jabby Koeh.
Starting point is 00:16:27 This is Michael Boos. Peace out.

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