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Episode Date: June 5, 2024

Critias by Plato audiobook. Genre: philosophy Plato's Critias is an unfinished philosophical dialogue that continues the conversation begun in Timaeus, moving from cosmic origins to a provocative sto...ry about politics, virtue, and the rise and fall of civilizations. Set on the day after Socrates has outlined his vision of an ideal city, the discussion turns to how such a city might look in action. Critias, speaking among Socrates, Timaeus, and Hermocrates, offers an account he claims was preserved through Egyptian priests and passed down to Athens: a long-ago conflict between a disciplined, law-bound ancient Athens and a vast maritime power beyond the Pillars of Heracles, the fabled Atlantis. As Critias describes the origins, institutions, and ambitions of Atlantis, the dialogue probes what makes a society strong, what corrupts it, and how power tests the soul of a people. Part mythic narrative, part political meditation, Critias invites listeners to weigh the boundary between history and allegory and to consider whether human excellence can endure prosperity without losing its moral center. For ad-free listening try our premium subscription Chapters (Approximate) (00:00:00) Chapter 01 (00:20:49) Chapter 02 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Part 1 Critias by Plato, translated by Benjamin Joyit. Introduction and Analysis The Critias is a fragment which breaks off in the middle of a sentence. It was designed to be the second part of a trilogy, which, like the other Great Platonic trilogy of the Sophist, statesman, philosopher, was never completed. Tamayas had brought down the origin of the world to the creation of man, and the dawn of history was now to succeed the philosophy of nature. The Quiteus is also connected with the Republic.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Plato, as he has already told us, Parentheses, Tymias, end of parentheses, intended to represent the ideal state engaged in a patriotic conflict. This mythical conflict is prophetic or symbolic of the struggle of Athens and Persia, perhaps in some degree also of the wars of the Greeks and Carthaginians, in the same way that the Persian is prefigured by the Trojan War to the mind of Herodotus, or as the narrative of the first part of the Enneid is intended by Virgil to foreshadow the wars of Carthage and Rome.
Starting point is 00:01:21 The small number of the primitive Athenian citizens, 20,000, which is about their present number, parentheses, Critias, end of parentheses, is evidently designed to contrast with the myriads and barbaric array of the Atlantic hosts. The passing remark in the Tamias, that Athens was left alone in the struggle, in which she conquered and became the liberator of Greece, is also an allusion to the later history. Hence we may safely conclude that the entire narrative is due to the imagination of Plato,
Starting point is 00:01:57 who has used the name of Solon and introduced the Egyptian priests to give verisimilitude to his story. To the Greek, such a tale, like that of the earth-born men, would have seemed perfectly accordant with the character of his mythology, and not more marvelous than the wonders of the East narrated by Herodotus and others. He might have been deceived into believing it, but it appears strange that later ages should have been imposed upon by the fiction. As many attempts have been made to find the great island of Atlantis, as to discover the country of the lost tribes. Without regard to the description of Plato, and without a suspicion that the whole narrative is a fabrication,
Starting point is 00:02:41 interpreters have looked for the spot in every part of the globe, America, Arabia Felix, Ceylon, Palestine, Sardinia, Sweden. Tamias concludes with a prayer that his words may be acceptable to the God whom he has revealed, and Critias, whose turn follows, begs that a larger measure of indulgence may be conceded to him, because he has to speak of men whom we know and not of gods whom we do not know. Socrates readily grants his request, and, anticipating that Hermocrates will make a similar petition, extends by anticipation a like indulgence to him. Quiteus returns to his story, professing only to repeat what Solon was told by the priests.
Starting point is 00:03:32 The war of which he was about to speak had occurred 9,000 years ago. One of the combatants was the city of Athens. The other was the great island of Atlantis. Crichtias proposes to speak of these rival powers first of all, giving to Athens the precedents, the various tribes of Greeks and barbarians who took part in the war will be dealt with as they successively appear on the scene. In the beginning the gods agreed to divide the earth by lot in a friendly manner, and when they had made the allotment they settled their several countries,
Starting point is 00:04:07 and were the shepherds, or rather the pilots of mankind, whom they guided by persuasion and not by force. Hephaestus and Athena, brother and sister deities, in mind and art united, obtained as their lot the land of Attica, a land suited to the growth of virtue and wisdom, and there they settled a brave race of children of the soil, and taught them how to order the state. Some of their names, such as sea crops, erycteus, erythonyus, and erycithon were preserved and adopted in later times. but the memory of their deeds has passed away for there have since been many deluges and the remnant who survived in the mountains were ignorant of the art of writing and during many generations were wholly devoted to acquiring the means of life and the armed image of the goddess which was dedicated by the ancient athenians is an evidence to other ages that men and woman had in those days as they ought always to have common virtues and pursuits There were various classes of citizens, including handicraftsmen and husbandmen, and a superior class of warriors who dwelt apart and were educated, and had all things in common, like our guardians. Attica in those days extended southwards to the Istnes, and inland to the heights of parns and Scythyrrhon, and between them and the sea included the district of Oropas.
Starting point is 00:05:40 The country was then, as what remains of it still is, the most fertile in the world, and abounded in rich plains and pastures, but in the course of ages much of the soil was washed away and disappeared in the deep sea, and the inhabitants of this fair land were endowed with intelligence, and the love of beauty. The acropolis of the ancient Athens extended to the illisus and eridinus, and included the peninx and the cavitas, on the opposite side of the peninx having a level surface and deep soil the side of the hill was inhabited by craftsmen and husbandmen and the warriors dwelt by themselves on the summit around the temples of hephestes and athene in an enclosure which was like the garden of a single house in winter they retired into houses on the north of the hill in which they held their cisitia these were modest dwellings which they bequeathed unaltered to the
Starting point is 00:06:40 their children's children. In summertime, the south side was inhabited by them, and then they left their gardens and dining halls. In the midst of the Acropolis was a fountain, which gave an abundant supply of cool water in summer and warm in winter. Of this, there are still some traces. They were careful to preserve the number of fighting men and women at 20,000, which is equal to that of the present military force. And so they passed their lives as guardians of the citizens. and leaders of the Helenes. They were a just and famous race, celebrated for their beauty and virtue
Starting point is 00:07:18 all over Europe and Asia. And now I will speak to you of their adversaries, but first I ought to explain that the Greek names were given to Solon in an Egyptian form, and he inquired their meaning and translated them.
Starting point is 00:07:33 His manuscript was left with my grandfather, Dropodes, and is now in my possession. In the division of the earth beside obtained as his portion the island of Atlantis, and there he began children whose mother was immortal. Towards the sea, and in the center of the island there was a very fair and fertile plain, and near the center, about 50 stadia from the plain, there was a low mountain in which dwelt a man named Evanor, and his wife, Lucope, and their daughter Clyto, of whom Poseidon became enamored. He, to secure his love, enclosed the mountain with rings or zones varying in size,
Starting point is 00:08:09 two of land and three of sea, which his divine power readily enabled him to excavate and fashion. And, as there was no shipping in those days, no man could get into the place. To the interior island he conveyed under the earth springs of water hot and cold, and supplied the land with all things needed for the life of man. Here he begat a family consisting of five pairs of twin male children. The eldest was Atlas, and him he made king of the San Francisco. center island, well to his twin brother, Umalus, or Godiris. He assigned that part of the country, which was nearest the Straits. The other brothers he made chiefs over the rest of the island,
Starting point is 00:08:54 and their kingdom extended as far as Egypt and Terrania. Now Atlas had a fair posterity, and great treasures derived from mines, among them that precious metal or a kelcum, and there was abundance of wood and herds of elephants and pastures for animals of all kinds and fragrant herbs and grasses and trees bearing fruit. These they used and employed themselves in constructing their temples and palaces and harbors and docks in the following manner. First they bridged over the zones of sea and made a way to and from the royal palace which they built in the central island.
Starting point is 00:09:33 This ancient palace was ornamented by successive generations, and they dug a canal which passed through the zones of land from the island to the sea. The zones of earth were surrounded by walls made of stones of diverse colors, black and white and red, which they sometimes intermingled for the sake of ornament, and as they quarried, they hollowed out beneath the edges of the zones, double docks having roofs of rock. The outermost of the walls was coated with brass, the second with tin, and the third, which was the wall of the citadel, flashed with the red light of Orocalcum. In the interior of the citadel was a holy temple dedicated to Cato and Poseidon, and surrounded by an enclosure of gold, and there was Poseidon's own temple, which was covered with silver, and the pinnacles with gold, the roof was ivory, adorned with gold and silver and O'aquelcom, and the rest of the interior was lined with Orocalcum.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Within was an image of the god standing in a chariot drawn by six winged horses, and touching the roof with his head, around him were a hundred nereids riding on dolphins. Outside the temple were placed golden statues of all the descendants of the ten kings and of their wives. There was an altar too, and there were palaces, corresponding to the greatness and glory both of the kingdom and of the temple. Also there were fountains of hot and cold water, and suitable buildings surrounding them, and trees, and there were baths both of the kings and of private individuals, and separate baths for women, and also for cattle. The water from the baths was carried to the grove of Poseidon, and by aqueducts over the bridges to the outer circles, and there were temples in the zones, and in the larger of the two there was a racecourse for horses, which ran all round the island.
Starting point is 00:11:30 The guards were distributed in the zones, according to the trust reposed in them. The most trusted of them were stationed in the citadel. The docks were full of triremes and stores. The land between the harbor and the sea was surrounded by a wall, and was crowded with dwellings, and the harbor and canal resounded with the din of human voices. The plain around the city was highly cultivated and sheltered
Starting point is 00:11:55 from the north by mountains. It was oblong, and where falling out of the straight line followed the circular ditch, which was of an incredible depth. This depth received the streams which came down from the mountains, as well as the canals of the interior, and found a way to the sea. The entire country was divided into 60,000 lots, each of which was a square of ten stadia, and the owner of a lot was bound to furnish the sixth part of a war chariot,
Starting point is 00:12:24 so as to make up 10,000 chariots, two horses and riders upon them, a pair of chariot horses without a seat, and an attendant and charioteer, two hoplites, two archers, two slingers, three stone-shooters, three javelin men, and four sailors to make up the complement of twelve hundred ships. Each of the ten kings was absolute in his own city and kingdom. The relations of the different governments to one another were determined, by the injunctions of Poseidon, which had been inscribed by the first kings on a column of Orakalcum in the temple of Poseidon, at which the kings and princes gathered together and held a festival every fifth and every sixth year alternately. Around the temple ranged the bowls of Poseidon, one of which the ten kings caught and sacrificed, shedding the blood of the victim over the inscription,
Starting point is 00:13:20 and vowing not to transgress the laws of their father Poseidon. When night came, they put on azure robes, and gave judgment against offenders. The most important of their laws related to their dealings with one another. They were not to take up arms against one another, and were to come to the rescue of any of their brethren were attacked. They were to deliberate in common about war, and the king was not to have the power of life and death over his kinsmen, unless he had the ascent of the majority.
Starting point is 00:13:52 For many generations, as tradition tells, the people of Atlantis were obedient to the laws and to the gods and practiced gentleness and wisdom in their intercourse with one another. They knew that they could only have the true use of riches by not caring about them. But, gradually, the divine portion of their souls became diluted with too much of the mortal admixture, and they began to degenerate. though to the outward eye they appeared glorious as ever at the very time when they were filled with all iniquity. The all-seeing Zeus, wanting to punish them, held a council of the gods,
Starting point is 00:14:30 and when he had called them together, he spoke as follows. No one knew better than Plato how to invent a noble lie. Observe, one, the innocent declaration of Socrates that the truth of the story is a great advantage. 2. The manner in which traditional names and indications of geography are intermingled. Why, here be truths. 3. The extreme minuteness with which the numbers are given, as in the old epic poetry. 4. The ingenious reason assigned for the Greek names occurring in the Egyptian tale. 5. The remark that the armed statue of Athena indicated the common warrior life of men and woman.
Starting point is 00:15:11 6. The particularity with which the third deluge before that of Jucalion is affirmed to have been the great destruction. 7. The happy guess that great geological changes have been affected by water. 8. The indulgence of the prejudice against sailing beyond the columns, and the popular belief of the shallowness of the ocean in that part. 9. The confession that the depth of the ditch in the island of Atlantic. was not to be believed, and yet he could only repeat what he had heard, compared with the statement made in an earlier passage that Poseidon, being a god, found no difficulty in contriving the water supply of the Central Island. Ten, the mention of the old rivalry of Poseidon and Athene,
Starting point is 00:16:02 and the creation of the first inhabitants out of the soil. Plato here as elsewhere ingeniously gives the impression that he is telling the truth, which mythology had corrupted. The world, like a child, has readily, and for the most part unhesitatingly, accepted the tale of the island of Atlantis. In modern times we hardly seek for traces of the submerged continent, but even Mr. Grote is inclined to believe in the Egyptian poem of Solon, of which there is no evidence in antiquity, while others, like Martin, discuss the Egyptian origin of the legend, or like M. de Humboldt, whom he quotes, are disposed to find in it a vestige of a widely spread tradition. Others adopting a different vein of reflection
Starting point is 00:16:50 regard the island of Atlantis as the anticipation of a still greater island, the continent of America. The tale, says M. Martin, rests upon the authority of the Egyptian priests, and the Egyptian priests took a pleasure in deceiving the Greeks. He knows. never appears to suspect that there is a greater deceiver or magician than the Egyptian priests, that is to say, Plato himself, from the dominion of whose genius, the critic, and natural philosopher of modern times are not wholly emancipated. Although worthless in respect of any result which can be attained by them, discussions like those of M. Martin, parentheses to me, and parentheses,
Starting point is 00:17:35 have an interest of their own and may be compared to the similar discussions regarding the lost tribes, parentheses second Esdras, end of parentheses. As showing how the chance word of some poet or philosopher has given birth to endless religious or historical inquiries, parentheses, see introduction to the Timias, end of parentheses. In contrasting the small Greek city, numbering about 20,000 inhabitants, With the barbaric greatness of the island of Atlantis, Plato probably intended to show that a state, such as the ideal Athens, was invincible, though matched against any number of opponents, parentheses, CP, Republic, end of parentheses. Even in a great empire, there might be a degree of virtue and justice, such as the Greeks believed to have existed under the sway of the first Persian kings. But all such empires were liable to degenerate and soon incurred the anger of the gods.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Their oriental wealth and splendor of gold and silver and variety of colors seemed also to be at variance with the simplicity of Greek notions. In the island of Atlantis, Plato is describing a sort of Babylonian or Egyptian city, to which he opposes the frugal life of the true Hellenic citizen. It is remarkable that in his brief sketch of them, he idealizes the husbandmen who are lovers of honor and true husbandmen, as well as the warriors who are his sole concern in the Republic, and that though he speaks of the common pursuits of men and woman, he says nothing of the community of wives and children. It is singular that Plato should have prefixed the most detested of Athenian names to this dialogue, and even more singular that he should have put, into the mouth of Socrates, a panegyric on him. Parentheses, Timias, end of parentheses. Yet we know that his character was accounted infamous by Xenophon,
Starting point is 00:19:41 and that the mere acquaintance with him was made a subject of accusation against Socrates. We can only infer that in this, and perhaps in some other cases, Plato's characters have no reference to the actual facts. The desire to do honor to his own family, and the connection with Solon, may have suggested the introduction of his name, why the Critias was never completed, whether from accident or from advancing age, or from a sense of the artistic difficulty of the design,
Starting point is 00:20:15 cannot be determined. End of Part 1, recording by Kevin Johnson. Part 2, Critias, by Plato, translated by Benjamin Jowett. This Librivaugh's recording is in the public domain. Recording by Kevin Johnson. Critias Persons of the dialogue
Starting point is 00:20:41 Critias Hermocrates Tamias Socrates Timias How thankful I am Socrates that I have arrived at last and, like a wary traveler
Starting point is 00:20:57 after a long journey, may be at rest. and I pray the being who always was of old and has now been by me revealed to grant that my words may endure insofar as they have been spoken truly and acceptably to him. But if unintentionally I have said anything wrong, I pray that he will impose upon me a just retribution, and the just retribution of him who heirs is that he should be set right. wishing then to speak truly in future concerning the generation of the gods, I pray him to give me knowledge, which of all medicines is the most perfect and best. And now having offered my prayer, I deliver up the argument to Critias,
Starting point is 00:21:43 who is to speak next according to our agreement. Parentheses, Timaeus, end of parentheses. Critias, and I, Timaeus, accept the trust, and as you at first said that you were going to speak of high matters, and begged that some forbearance might be shown to you, I too ask the same or greater forbearance for what I am about to say, and although I very well know that my request may appear to be somewhat ambitious and discurteous, I must make it nevertheless. For will any man of sense deny that you have spoken well, I can only attempt to show that
Starting point is 00:22:24 I ought to have more indulgence than you, because my theme is more difficult, and I shall argue that to seem to speak well of the gods to men is far easier than to speak well of men to men, for the inexperience and utter ignorance of his hearers about any subject is a great assistance to him who has to speak of it, and we know how ignorant we are concerning the gods. But I should like to make my meaning clearer, if you will follow me. All that is said by any of us can only be imitation and representation. For if we consider the likenesses which painters make of bodies divine and heavenly, and the different degrees of gratification with which the eye of the spectator receives them,
Starting point is 00:23:11 we shall see that we are satisfied with the artist who is able in any degree to imitate the earth and as mountains, and the rivers, and the woods, and the universe, and the things that are and move therein. And further, that knowing nothing precise about such matters, we do not examine or analyze the painting. All that is required is a sort of indistinct and deceptive mode of shadowing them forth. But when a person endeavors to paint the human form,
Starting point is 00:23:41 we are quick at finding out defects. And our familiar knowledge makes us severe judges of anyone who does not render every point of similarity and we may observe the same thing to happen in discourse. We are satisfied with the picture of divine and heavenly things, which has very little likeness to them, but we are more precise in our criticism of mortal and human things. Wherefore, if at the moment of speaking I cannot suitably express my meaning,
Starting point is 00:24:10 you must excuse me, considering that to form approved likenesses of human things is the reverse of easy. that is what I want to suggest to you, and at the same time to beg, Socrates, that I may have, not less, but more indulgence conceded to me in what I am about to say. Which favor, if I am right in asking, I hope that you will be ready to grant. Socrates, certainly, Critias, we will grant your request, and we will grant the same by anticipation to Hermocrates, as well as to you and to Myus. for I have no doubt that when his turn comes a little while hence, he will make the same request which you have made.
Starting point is 00:24:57 In order then that he may provide himself with a fresh beginning, and not be compelled to say the same things over again, let him understand that the indulgence is already extended by anticipation to him. And now, friend Critias, I will announce to you the judgment of the theatre. They are of opinion that the last performer was wonderfully, successful, and that you will need a great deal of indulgence before you will be able to take his place. Hermocrates, the warning Socrates, which you have addressed to him, I must also take to
Starting point is 00:25:32 myself. But remember, Critias, that faint heart never yet raised a trophy, and therefore you must go and attack the argument like a man, first invoke Apollo and the Muses. And then let us hear you sound the praises and show for you. forth the virtues of your ancient citizens. Critias, friend Hermocrates, you, who are stationed last and have another in front of you, have not lost heart as yet. The gravity of the situation will soon be revealed to you. Meanwhile, I accept your exhortations and encouragements, but, besides the gods and goddesses
Starting point is 00:26:12 whom you have mentioned, I would specially invoke Namasone, for all the important parts of my discourse is dependent on her favor, and if I can recollect and recite enough of what was said by the priests and brought hither by Solon, I doubt not that I shall satisfy the requirements of this theatre, and now, making no more excuses, I will proceed. Let me begin by observing, first of all, that nine thousand was the sum of years which had elapsed since the war which was said to have taken place between those who dwelt outside the pillars of Heracles and all who dwelt within them. This war I am going to describe. Of the combatants on the one side, the city of Athens was reported to have been the leader and to have fought out the war. The combatants on the other side were
Starting point is 00:27:08 commanded by the kings of Atlantis, which, as I was saying, was an island greater in extent then Libya and Asia, and when afterwards sunk by an earthquake, became an impassable barrier of mud to voyagers sailing from hence to any part of the ocean. The progress of the history will unfold the various nations of barbarians and families of Helenes, which then existed, as they successively appear on the scene. But I must describe, first of all, the Athenians of that day, and their enemies who fought with them, and then the respective powers and governments of the two kingdoms. Let us give the precedence to Athens. In the days of old, the gods had the whole earth distributed among them by allotment.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Parentheses, CP, Politicus, end of parentheses. There was no quarreling, for you cannot rightly suppose that the gods did not know what was proper for each of them. to have, or, knowing this, that they would seek to procure for themselves by contention, that which more properly belonged to others. They all of them, by just apportionment, obtained what they wanted, and peopled their own districts. And when they had peopleed them, they tended us, their nurslings, and possessions, as shepherds tend their flocks. Accepting only that they did not use blows or bodily force, as shepherds' do, but governed us like pilots from the stern of the vessel, which is an easy way of guiding
Starting point is 00:28:47 animals, holding our souls by the rudder of persuasion, according to their own pleasures. Thus did they guide all mortal creatures. Now different gods had their allotments in different places which they set in order. Hephaestus and Athene, who were brother and sister, and sprang from the same father, having a common nature and being united also in the world. a love of philosophy and art, both obtained as their common portion this land, which was naturally adapted for wisdom and virtue. And there they implanted brave children of the soil, and put into their minds the order of government. Their names are preserved, but their actions have disappeared by reason of the destruction of those who received the tradition, and the
Starting point is 00:29:37 lapse of ages. For when there were any survivors, as I have already said, said, they were men who dwelt in the mountains, and they were ignorant of the art of writing, and had heard only the names of the chiefs of the land, but very little about their actions. The names they were willing enough to give to their children, but the virtues and the laws of their predecessors they knew only by obscure traditions. And as they themselves and their children lacked for many generations the necessaries of life, They directed their attention to the supply of their wants, and of them they conversed to the neglect of events that had happened in times long past. For mythology and the inquiry into antiquity are first introduced into cities when they begin to have leisure.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Parentheses, C.P. Aristotle, metaphysics, end of parentheses. and when they see that the necessaries of life have already been provided, but not before. And this is the reason why the names of the ancients have been preserved to us and not their actions. This I infer because Solon said that the priests in their narrative of that war mentioned most of the names which are recorded prior to the time of Theseus, such as Seacrops and Eryctheus, and Erethias, and Erectoris. and erycthonius and erysichthon and the names of the woman in like manner moreover since military pursuits were then common to men and woman the men of those days in accordance with the custom of the time set up a figure and image of the goddess in full armor to be a testimony that all animals which associate together male as well as female made
Starting point is 00:31:34 if they please, practice in common the virtue which belongs to them without distinction of sex. Now the country was inhabited in those days by various classes of citizens. There were artisans and there were husbandmen, and there was also a warrior class originally set apart by divine men. The latter dwelt by themselves, and had all things suitable for nurture and education. Neither had any of them anything of their own, but they regarded all that they had as common property, nor did they claim to receive of the other citizens anything more than their necessary food, and they practiced all the pursuits which we yesterday described as those of our imaginary guardians. Concerning the country the Egyptian priests said,
Starting point is 00:32:28 what is not only probable but manifestly true that the boundaries were in those days fixed by the Isthmus, and that in the direction of the continent they extended as far as the heights of Scythron and Parns. The boundary line came down in the direction of the sea, having the district of Oropus on the right, and with the river Asipus as the limit on the left. The land was the best in the world, and was therefore able in those days to support a vast army, raised from the surrounding people. Even the remnant of Attica, which now exists, may compare with any region in the world for the variety and excellence of its fruits and the suitableness of its pastures to every sort of animal,
Starting point is 00:33:18 which proves what I am saying, but in those days the country was fair as now, and yielded far more abundant produce. How shall I establish my words, and what part of it can be truly called a remnant of the land that then was? The whole country is only a long promontory extending far into the sea, away from the rest of the continent. Well, the surrounding basin of the sea is everywhere deep, in the neighborhood of the shore.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Many great deluges have taken place during the 9,000, years, for that is the number of years which have elapsed since the time of which I am speaking. And during all this time and through so many changes, there has never been any considerable accumulation of the soil coming down from the mountains, as in other places. But the earth has fallen away all around and sunk out of sight. The consequence is that in comparison of what than was there are remaining only the bones of the wasted body as they may be called as in the case of small islands all the richer and softer parts of the soil having fallen away and the mere skeleton of the land being left but in the primitive state of the country its mountains were high hills covered with soil and the plains as they are termed by us a felius were full of rich earth, and there was abundance of wood in the mountains. Of this last,
Starting point is 00:34:58 the traces still remain. For although some of the mountains now only afford sustenance to bees, not so very long ago there were still to be seen roofs of timber cut from trees growing there, which were of a size sufficient to cover the largest houses, and there were many other high trees, cultivated by man and bearing abundance of food for cattle. Moreover, the land reaped the benefit of the annual rainfall, not as now, losing the water which flows off the bare earth into the sea, but having an abundant supply in all places, and receiving it into herself and treasuring it up in the close clay soil.
Starting point is 00:35:41 It let off into the hollows the streams which it absorbed from the heights, providing everywhere abundant fountains and rivers, of which there may still be observed sacred memorials in places where fountains once existed, and this proves the truth of what I am saying. Such was the natural state of the country, which was cultivated, as we may well believe, by true husbandmen, who made husbandry their business, and were lovers of honor, and of a noble nature, and had a soil the best in the world and abundance of water, and in the heaven above an excellently a tempered climate. Now the city in those days was arranged on this wise. In the first place, the acropolis was not as now, for the fact is that a single night of excessive rain
Starting point is 00:36:32 washed away the earth and laid bare the rock. At the same time there were earthquakes, and then occurred the extraordinary inundation, which was the third before the great destruction of Chucalion. But in primitive times the hill of the Acropolis extended to the Irodanus and elicis, and included the Pinnix on one side and the Lachavitis as the boundary on the opposite side to the Pinnix, and was all well covered with soil and level at the top, except in one or two places. Outside the Acropolis and under the size of the hill there dwelt artisans, and such of the husbandmen as were tilling the ground near. The warrior class dwelt by themselves around the temples of Athene and Hephaestus at the summit, which moreover they had enclosed with
Starting point is 00:37:28 a single fence like the garden of a single house. On the north side they had dwellings in common and had erected halls for dining in winter, and had all the buildings which they needed for their common life. Besides temples, but there was no adorning of them with gold and silver, for they made no use of these for any purpose. They took a middle course between meanness and ostentation, and built modest houses in which they and their children's children grew old, and they handed them down to others who were like themselves, always the same.
Starting point is 00:38:04 But in summertime they left their gardens and gymnasia and dining halls, and then the southern side of the hill was made use of by them for the same purpose. Where the Acropolis now is, there was a fountain, which was choked by the earthquake, and has left only the few small streams which still exist in the vicinity. But in those days the fountain gave an abundant supply of water for all, and of suitable temperature in summer and. and in winter. This is how they dwelt, being the guardians of their own citizens and the leaders of the Helenes, who were their willing followers, and they took care to preserve the same number of
Starting point is 00:38:48 men and women through all time, being so many as were required for warlike purposes, then as now, that is to say, about 20,000. Such were the ancient Athenians, and after this matter, manner they righteously administered their own land and the rest of Hellas. They were renowned all over Europe and Asia for the beauty of their persons and for the many virtues of their souls, and of all men who lived in those days they were the most illustrious. And next, if I have not forgotten what I heard when I was a child, I will impart to you the character and origin of their adversaries, for friends should be a little. not keep their stories to themselves, but have them in common.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Yet, before proceeding further in the narrative, I ought to warn you that you must not be surprised if you should perhaps hear Hellenic names given to foreigners. I will tell you the reason of this. Solon, who was intending to use the tale for his poem, inquired into the meaning of the names, and found that the early Egyptians in writing them down had translated them into their own language, and he recovered the meaning of the several names, and when copying them out again, translated them into our language. My great-grandfather, Dropodes, had the original writing, which is still in my possession, and was carefully studied by me when I was a child. Therefore,
Starting point is 00:40:25 if you hear names such as are used in this country, you must not be surprised, for I have told how they came to be introduced. The tale, which was of great length, began as follows. I have before remarked in speaking of the allotments of the gods, that they distributed the whole earth into portions differing in extent, and made for themselves the temples and instituted sacrifices. And Poseidon, receiving for his lot the island of Atlantis, begat children by a mortal woman, and settled them in a part of the island, which I will describe. Looking towards the sea, but in the center of the whole island, there was a plain which is said to have been the fairest of all plains and very fertile.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Near the plain again, and also in the center of the island, at a distance of about 50 stadia, there was a mountain not very high on any side. In this mountain there dwelt one of the earth-born, primeval men of that country, whose name was Evanor, and he had a wife named Lycepe, and they had an only daughter who was called Clyto. The maiden had already reached womanhood when her father and mother died. Poseidon fell in love with her and had intercourse with her, and breaking the ground enclosed the hill in which she dwelt all round, making alternate zones
Starting point is 00:41:59 of sea and land larger and smaller, encircling one another. There were two of land and three of water, which he turned as with a lathe, each having its circumference equidistant every way from the centre, so that no man could get to the island. For ships and voyages were not as yet. He himself, being a god, found no difficulty in making special arrangements for the center Island, bringing up two springs of water from beneath the earth, one of warm water and the other of cold, and making every variety of food to spring up abundantly from the soil. He also begat and brought up five pairs of twin male children, and dividing the island of Atlantis into ten portions, he gave to the firstborn of the eldest pair his mother's dwelling and the surrounding allotment,
Starting point is 00:42:53 which was the largest and best, and made him. him king over the rest. The others he made princes and gave them rule over many men, and a large territory, and he named them all. The eldest, who was the first king, he named Atlas, and after him the whole island and the ocean, were called Atlantic. To his twin brother, who was born after him and obtained as his lot the extremity of the island towards the pillars of Heracles, facing the country which is now called the region of Gades in that part of the world, he gave the name, which, in the Hellenic language, is Eumelus, in the language of the country which is named after him, Gadiris.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Of the second pair of twins he called one Amferes, and the other Ebemmon, To the elder of the third pair of twins he gave the name Nessius and Atocthon, to the one who followed him. Of the fourth pair of twins he called the elder Elasapis and the younger Mestor, and of the fifth pair he gave the elder the name of Azais, and to the younger that of Diapreppis. All these and their descendants, for many generations, were the inhabitants and rulers of diverse islands in the inhabitants.
Starting point is 00:44:18 the open sea. And also, as has been already said, they held sway in our direction over the country within the pillars as far as Egypt and Terrenia. Now, Atlas had a numerous and honorable family, and they retained the kingdom, the eldest son handing it on to his eldest for many generations, and they had such an amount of wealth as was never before possessed by kings and potentates, and is not likely ever to be a gain, and they were furnished with everything which they needed, both in the city and country. For because of the greatness of their empire, many things were brought to them from foreign countries, and the island itself provided most of what was required by them for the uses of life.
Starting point is 00:45:08 In the first place, they dug out of the earth whatever was to be found there, solid as well as fusile, and that which is now only a name, and was then something more than a name, or a calcum, was dug out of the earth in many parts of the island, being more precious in those days than anything except gold. There was an abundance of wood for carpenter's work, and sufficient. maintenance for tame and wild animals. Moreover, there were a great number of elephants in the island, for as there was provision for all other source of animals, both for those which live in lakes and marshes and rivers, and also for those which live in mountains and on plains, so there was for the animal which is the largest and most voracious of all.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Also, whatever fragrant things there now are in the earth, whether roots or herbage or woods, or essences which distill from fruit and flour grew and thrived in that land also the fruit which admits of cultivation both the dry sort which is given us for nourishment and any other which we use for food we call them all by the common name of pulse and the fruits having a hard rind affording drinks and meats and ointments and good store of chestnuts and the like which furnish pleasure and amusement and are fruits which spoil with keeping, and the pleasant kinds of dessert, with which we console ourselves after dinner, when we are tired of eating. All these, that sacred island, which then beheld the light of the sun, brought forth fair and wondrous and in infinite abundance. With such blessings the earth freely furnished them. Meanwhile, they went on constructing their temples and palaces and harbors and docks, and they arranged the whole country in the following manner.
Starting point is 00:47:05 first of all they bridged over the zones of sea which surrounded the ancient metropolis making a road to and from the royal palace and at the very beginning they built the palace in the habitation of the god and of their ancestors which they continued to ornament in successive generations every king surpassing the one who went before him to the utmost of his power until they made the building a marvel to behold for size and for beauty and beginning from the sea they board a canal of three hundred feet in width and one hundred feet in depth and fifty stadia in length which they carried through to the outermost zone making a passage from the sea up to this which became a harbour and leaving an opening sufficient to enable the largest vessels to find ingress moreover they divided at the bridges the zones of land which parted the zones of sea leaving room for a single trirem to find ingress pass out of one zone into another, and they covered over the channels so as to leave a way underneath for the ships. For the banks were raised considerably above the water, now the largest of the zones into which a passage was cut from the sea was three stadia in breadth, and the zone of land which came next of equal breadth. But the next two zones, the one of water, the other of land, were two
Starting point is 00:48:30 stadia, and the one which surrounded the central island was a stadium only in width. The island in which the palace was situated had a diameter of five stadia. All this including the zones and the bridge, which was the sixth part of a stadium in width. They surrounded by a stone wall on every side, placing towers and gates on the bridges where the sea passed in. The stone, which was used in the work, they quarried from underneath the center island, and From underneath the zones, on the outer as well as the inner side, one kind was white, another black, and a third red. And as they quarried, they at the same time hollowed out double docks, having roofs formed out of the native rock.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Some of their buildings were simple, but in others they put together different stones, varying the color to please the eye, and to be a natural source of delight. The entire circuit of the wall, which went round the outermost zone, they covered with a coating of brass, and the circuit of the next wall they coated with tin. And the third, which encompassed the citadel, flashed with the red light of Orakkelcum. The palaces in the interior of the citadel were constructed on this wise. In the center was a holy temple dedicated to Clyto and Poseidon, which remained inaccessible and was surrounded by an enclosure of gold. this was the spot where the family of the ten princes first saw the light,
Starting point is 00:50:02 and thither the people annually brought the fruits of the earth in their season from all the ten portions to be an offering to each of the ten. Here was Poseidon's own temple, which was a stadium in length, and half a stadium in width, and of a proportionate height, having a strange barbaric appearance, all the outside of the temple, with the exception of the pinnacle, they covered with silver, and the pinnacles with gold. In the interior of the temple the roof was of ivory,
Starting point is 00:50:34 curiously wrought everywhere with gold and silver and orichalcum, and all the other parts, the walls and pillars and floor, they coated with orichalcum. In the temple they placed statues of gold. There was the god himself standing in a chariot, the charioteer of six-winged horses, and of such a size that he touched the roof of the building, with his head. Around him there were a hundred nereids riding on dolphins, for such was thought to be
Starting point is 00:51:03 the number of them by the men of those days. There were also in the interior of the temple other images which had been dedicated by private persons, and around the temple on the outside replaced statues of gold of all the descendants of the ten kings and of their wives, and there were many other great offerings of kings and of private persons, coming both from the city itself and from the foreign cities over which they held sway, there was an altar too, which in size and workmanship corresponded to this magnificence, and the palaces in like manner answered to the greatness of the kingdom and the glory of the temple. In the next place they had fountains, one of cold, and another of hot water, in gracious plenty flowing, and they were wonderfully
Starting point is 00:51:52 adapted for use by reason of the pleasantness and excellence of their waters. They constructed buildings about them and planted suitable trees. Also they made cisterns, some open to the heaven, others roofed over, to be used in winter as warm baths. There were the king's baths and the baths of private persons, which were kept apart, and there were separate baths for women and for horses and cattle. and to each of them they gave as much adornment as was suitable. Of the water which ran off they carried some to the grove of Poseidon,
Starting point is 00:52:30 where were growing all manner of trees of wonderful height and beauty, owing to the excellence of the soil, while the remainder was conveyed by aqueducts along the bridges to the outer circles, and there were many temples built and dedicated to many gods, also gardens and places of exercise, some for men and others for horses, in both of the two islands formed by the zones, and in the center of the larger of the two there was set apart a race-course of a stadium in width, and in length allowed to extend all around the island, for horses to race in. Also there were guardhouses at intervals for the guards, the more trusted of whom were
Starting point is 00:53:18 appointed to keep watch in the lesser zone, which was nearer the Acropolis, while the most trusted of all had houses given them within the citadel, near the persons of the kings. The docks were full of triremes and naval stores, and all things were quite ready for use, enough of the plan of the royal palace. Leaving the palace and passing out across the three harbors, you came to a wall which began at the sea and went all round. This was everywhere distant 50 stadia from the largest zone or harbor, and enclosed the hole, the ends meeting at the mouth of the channel, which led to the sea. The entire area was densely crowded with habitations, and the canal and the largest of the harbors
Starting point is 00:54:09 were full of vessels, and merchants coming from all parts, who, from their numbers, kept up a multitude Tudinous sound of human voices, and din and clatter of all sorts, night and day. I have described the city and the environs of the ancient palace nearly in the words of Solon, and now I must endeavor to represent to you the nature and arrangement of the rest of the land. The whole country was said by him to be very lofty and precipitous on the side of the sea, but the country immediately about and surrounding the city was a level plain, itself surrounded by mountains which descended towards the sea. It was smooth and even, and of an oblong shape, extending in one direction 3,000 stadia, but across the center inland, it was 2,000 stadia.
Starting point is 00:55:06 This part of the island looked towards the south, and was sheltered from the north. The surrounding mountains were celebrated for their number and size and beauty, far beyond any which still exist, having in them also many wealthy villages of country folk, and rivers and lakes, and meadows, supplying food enough for every animal, wild or tame, and much wood of various sorts, abundant for each and every kind of work. I will now describe the plain, as it was fashioned by nature and by the labors of many generations of kings through long ages. It was for the most part rectangular and oblong, and where falling out of the straight line followed the circular ditch. The depth and width and length of this ditch were incredible, and gave the impression that a work of such extent,
Starting point is 00:56:05 in addition to so many others could never have been artificial. Nevertheless, I must say what I was told, it was excavated to the depth of a hundred feet, and its breadth was a stadium everywhere. It was carried round the whole of the plain, and it was ten thousand stadia in length. It received the streams which came down from the mountains, and winding round the plain and meeting at the city,
Starting point is 00:56:33 was there let off into the sea. Further inland, likewise straight canals of a hundred feet and width were cut from it through the plain, and again let off into the ditch leading to the sea. These canals were at intervals of a hundred stadia, and by them they brought down the wood from the mountains to the city, and conveyed the fruits of the earth and ships, cutting transverse passages from one canal into another, and to the city. Twice in the year they gathered the fruits of the earth, in winter having the benefit of the rains of heaven, and in summer the water which the land supplied by introducing streams from the canals. As to the population, each of the lots in the plain had to find a leader for the men who were fit for military service, and the size of a lot was a square of ten stadia each way,
Starting point is 00:57:31 and the total number of all the lots was sixty thousand and of the inhabitants of the mountains and of the rest of the country there was also a vast multitude which was distributed among the lots and had leaders assigned to them according to their districts and villages the leader was required to furnish for the war the sixth portion of a war chariot so as to make up a total of ten thousand chariots also two horses and riders for them, and a pair of chariot horses without a seat. Accompanied by a horseman, who could fight on foot carrying a small shield, and having a charioteer who stood behind the man at arms to guide the two horses. Also, he was bound to furnish two heavy armed soldiers, two archers, two slingers, three stone shooters, and three javelin men, who were light-armed, and four sailors to make up the complement of twelve hundred ships. Such was the military order of the royal city.
Starting point is 00:58:38 The order of the other nine governments varied, and it would be worrisome to recount their several differences. As to offices and honors, the following was the arrangement from the first. Each of the ten kings in his own division and in his own city had the absolute control of the citizens, and, in most cases, of the laws, punishing and slaying whomsoever he would. Now the order of precedence among them and their mutual relations were regulated by the commands
Starting point is 00:59:10 of Poseidon, which the law had handed down. These were inscribed by the first kings on a pillar of Orokelcom, which was situated in the middle of the island, at the temple of Poseidon. whether the kings were gathered together every fifth and every sixth year alternately, thus giving equal honor to the odd and to the even number. And when they were gathered together, they consulted about their common interests, and inquired if anyone had transgressed in anything, and passed judgment. And before they passed judgment, they gave their pledges to one another on this wise.
Starting point is 00:59:52 There were bulls who had the range of the temple of Poseidon, and the ten kings being left alone in the temple, after they had offered prayers to the God that they might capture the victim, which was acceptable to him, hunted the bulls, without weapons, but with staves and nooses. And the bull which they caught, they led up to the pillar, and cut its throat over the top of it, so that the blood fell upon the sacredest.
Starting point is 01:00:22 inscription. Now on the pillar, besides the laws, there was inscribed an oath, invoking mighty curses on the disobedient. When, therefore, after slaying the bull in the accustomed manner, they had burnt its limbs, they filled a bowl of wine, and cast in a clot of blood for each of them. The rest of the victim they put in the fire, after having purified the column all round. Then, they drew from the bull in golden cups, and pouring a libation on the fire, they swore that they would judge according to the laws on the pillar, and would punish him who in any point had already transgressed them, and that for the future they would not, if they could help, offend against the writing on the pillar, and would neither command others nor obey any ruler
Starting point is 01:01:17 who commanded them to act otherwise than according to the laws of their father Poseidon. This was the prayer which each of them offered up for himself and for his descendants, at the same time drinking and dedicating the cup out of which he drank in the temple of the God, and after they had supped and satisfied their needs, when darkness came on, and the fire about the sacrifice was cool, all of them put on most beautiful azure robes, and, sitting on the ground at night, over the embers of the sacrifices by which they had sworn, and extinguishing all the fire about the temple, they received and gave judgment, if any of them had an accusation to bring against anyone.
Starting point is 01:02:08 And when they had given judgment, at daybreak they wrote down their sentences on a golden tablet, and dedicated it together with their robes to be a memorial. There were many special laws affecting the several kings inscribed about the temples, but the most important was the following. They were not to take up arms against one another, and they were all to come to the rescue if anyone in any of their cities attempted to overthrow the royal house. Like their ancestors, they were to deliberate in common about war and other matters, giving the supremacy to the descendants of Atlas,
Starting point is 01:02:50 and the king was not to have the power of life and death over any of his kinsmen, unless he had the ascent of the majority of the ten. Such was the vast power which the gods settled in the Lost Island of Atlantis, and this he afterwards directed against our land for the following reasons, as tradition tells. For many generations, as long as the divine, nature lasted in them, they were obedient to the laws, and well-affectioned towards the God, whose seed they were, for they possessed true and in every way great spirits, uniting gentleness with wisdom in the various chances of life, and in their intercourse with
Starting point is 01:03:36 one another. They despised everything but virtue, caring little for their present state of life, and thinking lightly of the possession of gold and other property, which seemed only a burden to them. Neither were they intoxicated by luxury, nor did wealth deprive them of their self-control, but they were sober and saw clearly that all these goods are increased by virtue and friendship with one another, whereas by too great regard and respect for them, they are lost and friendship with them. by such reflections and by the continuance in them of a divine nature the qualities which we have described grew and increased among them but when the divine portion began to fade away and became diluted too often and too much with the mortal admixture and the human nature got the upper hand they then being unable to bear their fortune behaved unseemly and to him who had an eye to see grew visibly debased, for they were losing the fairest of their precious gifts,
Starting point is 01:04:48 but to those who had no eye to see of the true happiness, they appeared glorious and blessed at the very time when they were full of avarice and unrighteous power. Zeus, the god of gods, who rules according to law and is able to see into such things, perceiving that an honorable race was in a woeful plight, and wanting to inflict punishment on them, that they might be chastened and improved, collected all the gods into their most holy habitation, which, being placed in the center of the world, beholds all created things, and when he had called them together, he spake as follows. footnote the rest of the dialogue of critias has been lost end of footnote end of part two end of critias by plato

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