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Episode Date: December 27, 2024

Thank you to everyone who has joined us for 2024. Micheal and I offer this last Friday episode of the year as our parting gift. As usual, I have no idea where these are going and we covered everything from flat earth to whether or not cheese is the best snack to eat while contemplating your place in the known universe. Enjoy, see you all next year!!

Let's talk about Spartan Forge. If you're a fan of the podcast, you have heard me talking about them for the last two months. This is such a cool brand. I would point you towards the episode I did with Bill Thompson, their founder. Traditionally, this is in the hunting space. And for those of you who are on video, I'm kind of, well, not kind of. I'm on their website right now. And you can see that this has the same tools that a lot of traditional hunting apps have.

But it has a lot more too. And I'll start you over on the left hand side of the screen here. The LIDAR and UAV mapping. The deer movement and prediction. the in-app pin sharing, essentially a Blue Force tracker. If you go onto the desktop model, there's an AI that you can talk to and ask it questions for things that you may not know the answer to because maybe you have a limited hunting area, hunting time, or limited access to a mentor. It offers the same things of those traditional hunting apps, but a lot more. I have been using this.

I use this today, actually. I flew down to Montana Knife Company and picked up some knives. And the screen I'm looking at now shows the difference between topography. This is probably a satellite or maybe even UAV. And on the right is the LiDAR. It gives you the ability to see the terrain underneath the foliage, which when you're looking for flat-level areas in a helicopter, it's pretty important. Highly recommend you head over to spartanforge.a.i if you're on your desktop or just go to the app store if you're on your phone and check them out. It is well worth the money.

It's an awesome brand and I'm going to be doing some work with them into 2025. So this is not going to be the last time you're going to hear about this. I'm looking at danger close now. All right. Do you ever just sit down and need a few pieces of cheese and think about life? Yeah, occasionally. Is that what you're doing right now? The cheese part.

Yeah, you're not thinking about life. I try not to. Yeah, I just. Things have become complicated. when I think about too much stuff. Yeah. My head starts to hurt, so I just stop thinking. And you know what's easy?

These little cheese keys. Cheese. Those are, they're pretty nice. I think so. A little fit fuel packs, as they call them. Sometimes what a man needs is just some cheese.

I'm time by themselves. Meat sticks. Yeah. All right, let's see if I can find. This is our Christmas special. Christmas special. We should have wore hats.

I am wearing one. Well, I mean, like Santa hats. This will come out after Christmas. Mm. So, This could be and will be our gift to everybody because they can unwrap this after.

This is another present under the tree. Yeah, that's a good idea, actually. Yeah. Merry Christmas, everybody. Yeah, indeed. I mean, super, I don't know what magic word applies to you using the term Merry Christmas as opposed to just cutting out every other belief and holiday. Right.

Very exclusive of me. Yeah. Yeah. I expected, I mean, I'm not going to sit here and say I expected more of you, but, you know. Let's start off. With that, how ridiculous it is to expect somebody to stop saying Merry Christmas and say happy holidays instead. I don't care what people say. I don't either.

But don't get pissy at me if I make noises with my vocal cord that you may not align with because you feel maybe it is Kwanza or whatever other holiday. that may be occurring. Of the many that I don't even know exist, and I'm going to be honest, I don't care to know that they exist, as long as they mean something to people and they get to express themselves in that way. For sure.

I don't and have never understood why the vibrating vocal cords have such an allergic reaction to certain people when they produce noises that don't align with their beliefs. Oh yeah. Some words especially,

really get people going. Some words, though, are used really negative connotation. Yeah. Oh yeah. Absolutely. And people are using them to try to be dicks. Yeah, for the whole purpose of doing that. Sometimes I fall into that capital as you have experienced. It's funny. But I do that at an individual level targeting people that I actually care about. Yeah. In the hopes to forge them, speaking of you in this instance, into the weapon that I know you can be, but are unlikely to ever achieve. No. Yeah. I just live your life. And in the process of doing so, maybe just don't push it on me or other people. Yeah. The other thing, too, is like the sentiment is still the same. Like you're not trying to be rude by saying Merry Christmas. You're trying, you're going out of your way to be nice. Yeah. I think people would say, well, you're going out of your way to be nice to a certain segment. And if you were to say, happy holidays, it's a broader umbrella and therefore more inclusive because it encapsulates everybody. My theory is say whatever you want to say. Yeah.

You know? And if it's very offensive, just be prepared for the consequences of that. Who gets to decide what is offensive? The individual at an individual level. Yeah. That's something. I mean. But a lot of words are broadly considered offensive to everybody.

They are, but that's voluntary. Oh, yeah. I agree. Outrage is voluntary at almost every turn. Yeah. There is almost nothing somebody could say that would cause me to actually get mad. How much time do we have? Should we try?

Well, the thing is like I could find it. But you would, well, no, because you would know that I'm joking. Exactly. If somebody could, it would happen. And it would happen in real life on a, you know, real life being outside of the studio. Yeah. On a day where you were like tired or something like that and somebody were to cut you off and they would just say something that irritate. Like we're all, trust me, it's susceptible to it.

And there are some things that will spin me high and right too. But what I try to do is catch myself going high and right. And then I will literally talk to myself out loud and ask myself, what is it that you're actually getting mad at? Is this even worth it? Is it worth it? Is this optional? And the answer to that is almost always yes. Yeah.

So what else you got? I have some cheese and grapes. Okay. Have fun. All right. Let's see. So kind of a lot happened this last week. Did it?

Yeah. Well, first. of all the CEO got shot. I guess that was maybe two weeks ago, but that CEO got shot. Yep. A lot of people supportive of the assassin. He gained 100,000 Twitter followers as soon as he got sent into prison or not prison yet. He's in jail, I'd assume. Is there a question associated with this?

What's your opinion on all of his support? Well, if he wasn't, and I'm not making an excuse at all. I'm going to lay out a just a different situation. If he wasn't the CEO of a healthcare company that in the one article that I saw, that's the depth of my research, was at the top of the list as far as denying claims goes. And he was a person on the street who was gunned down in random violence. The person who shot him would have none of that support. Yes. And for everybody out there, well, like, that's not the case.

He is, in fact, the CEO. I totally get that. does that mean that his wife and kids should no longer have a father and a husband? Right. How would you want somebody if the, you know, if the situation were reversed, again, you have to probably remove from that the occupational role that he held. How would you feel if somebody was supportive of the person that murdered you? I am jealous. You decided to skip the podcast yesterday because you had a, you needed a mental health day. That's what I described it to Nick.

But we're talking about this a little bit. And he and I are both actually of all of it jealous about the fact that man's being called an assassin because that's what I want to be called. Yeah. Also, what kind of gun was he using that jammed every shot? Or do you just not know how to use a gun? I don't know. In talking with Glover a little bit. So he had a 3D printed or non-commercial lower, meaning the portion that your hand wraps around.

The upper was apparently from a Glock with a metal barrel. And it was a 3D. printed silencer suppressor, depending on people, how they want to talk about it. Yeah. It could have been the type of ammunition that it was using. I mean, you can cause it to not cycle just by having your thumbs in the wrong position or physically blocking. Blocking. Yeah. The recoil. I don't know. I didn't dig into that too much. I haven't heard too much about it. I'd be curious where he got it from. Yeah. I'd be curious if he practiced. That's what I actually been interested in. He obviously knew who he was, knew who he was targeting. For sure. It would appear that he had put some thought into it. Those are the things that I'm a little bit more curious about. Yeah. You know, I feel very badly for the family now getting ready to go through their holidays with out of father.

And I know some people, the ones who support the Luigi, I think his name was, would say, yeah, but think about all the families that, you know, that that healthcare company may have denied claims from. And, you know, and I get that. But you need to be able to think about two individual things. Like, I can separate him and his family from the role that he held professionals. I also can understand why they would say those things, but I'm just trying to have, because I want to have empathy for people in that situation. Yeah.

So that sucks, but I'm curious as to, and I hope that it comes out the five dubs. Who would? Yeah. Those things. I think he had a manifesto on him when he or in his backpack or something. What is the length required for? manifesto because I also feel like I would like to have one of those. I don't know, like a page.

500 words. You imagine being an assassin with the manifesto? That's pretty, it's pretty dope. Yeah, it's pretty badass. I don't think you have it in you, but you can write the manifesto. I think you personally, I think you would crumble in the moment of truth. Maybe. What would be your, what's your dollar amount for you to kill somebody? I don't want to kill anybody. I mean, maybe nobody does, but what if you got offered $10 million? And the person was a pedophile that harms children. What's your number? I don't know.

Like $10 million was a pretty good amount of money. How about $100 million? Yeah. You would kill somebody for $100 million. If that person was a really horrible person. What if you weren't sure whether or not they were? But they would write you a tax-free. they would pay the tax consequence on the $100 million.

So you would actually get to walk with the $100 million as opposed to like the $55. If I wasn't sure, then no. $200 million. No. How about a billion dollars? Not so much money. I can't even conceptualize that much money. Yeah, but could you conceptualize killing somebody for that much money?

No. What if it was a coin toss? Maybe they were good. I didn't want me to kill somebody so bad. I'm not. I'm just, you know, taking your time. temperature here. Okay. I have not said I want you to kill anybody. I'm curious. Really getting me to try how many zeros would need to be on a check for you to do that.

I don't even know. It's not something I've really considered before. Until today. Until today. You know what? I'll think about it. Get back to you on next Michael versus Andy. All right. Okay. I mean, I don't know anybody who has that much money that would give it to you. So this is definitely a hypothetical conversation. Oh, absolutely hypothetical, yeah. Yeah. Figure out who you are in your off time. What's your number?

You know? Who I want to kill? No, because in this situation, somebody's approaching you. They're the client. They have, you get a, all you get is a glossy 8 by 10, like Walmart school photo of somebody. And an address and a check. Hmm. And the check, what if I just cast the check and don't kill a person?

I don't think that's how that works. Well, what if I did it? I feel like then you might find yourself encountering somebody else who got a different check. Yeah, I think that's probably true. Yeah. No questions asked $1 billion. Are you in? No.

No. Interesting. I mean, I'm pretty comfortable with the life I'm living right now. What about the life you could live with a billion dollars? Tax-free. It's a lot of money. It's for sure a lot of money. Yeah, you can go back to Italy a bunch of time and not talk to girls at all.

You can just, you can buy your own. flat in the south of France and read novels and play fucking play chess on your deck overlooking the ocean. I could do that. Yeah. Well, geez, maybe I will kill somebody then. It's a coin toss, though, whether they're good or bad. Oh.

What about if it was a woman versus a man? I mean, I feel like a man would be an easier yes. Why? Um, I don't know. Just because women seem in general. not as... Tell me more. We should just stop.

What mistake were you just about to say? Because in general, men are more violent. And so... The stats definitely prove that. And so what I was going to say is women and in general are less violent. Yeah. I mean, statistically that is true.

It would be... But does that mean they could be less evil, though? No, I mean, it would depend on the individual. You don't get to know that information. This is just a picture. That's why we're applying broad statistics to one individual, and that's going to be difficult to determine. What if it was like an 80-year-old, and you could tell that they were, they don't have that much time left anyway? What if they had a DNR?

They had like stage four cancer. Okay. And they just wanted to die. I don't think somebody would pay you a billion dollars to solve that. I don't think so, but in this, remember, this type of hypothetical. So in this obscure and bespoke scenario, you would need to. is elderly, DNR, potentially a degrading brain injury like dementia or Alzheimer's, bedridden, no family.

And then perhaps you would consider a billion dollars. I would consider it. Yeah. All right. Yeah. So. You and I are not the same. Yeah, I know.

All right. Fire away. What else you have? Even though this is probably my favorite topic we've ever talked about. Yeah. This is very interesting. For me, it's quite eliminating. Yeah, really delving deep into my psyche.

Did you hear about all the South Korea stuff? Mm-mm. So the president, South Korea's president is, I think he gets voted out, declares martial law saying that his opposition are right, are North Korean sympathizers and tries to use the military to lock. out anybody from the parliament building. How did that go for him? Not good. He got impeached. Yeah, let me pull up the news article here. All right. So he, so he lost an election, mm-hmm, said, no thank you. Marshall law, that didn't work. Yeah. Impeached. Yes. And now he's out of office? So I don't know the facing facing impeachment, I guess. Oh, an insurrection probe. See, we're not the only ones who can do it.

No, yeah. So he's probably just serving out the rest of his term. I think so. Eun, who's short-lived decree, triggered weeks of protests and political turmoil, was suspended from office after at least 12 members of his own ruling party voted in favor of his impeachment. Damn.

Following his refusal to resign, but the fate of the embattled leader is far from sealed. Ewing now waits for a top court to deliberate the impeachment motion and decide whether he will be formally removed from the presidency or reinstated into office. What? could take up to six months Meanwhile, the former prosecutor termed politician

has been banned from leaving the country and is facing a string of investigations including potential charges of leading an insurrection a crime punishable by life imprisonment or even the death penalty. Huh. So we don't actually know where this guy stands. No, so I guess he's not totally impeached yet, but I believe...

I think martial law, to get to the root cause of this, is probably a really bad idea. Yeah, I especially if it comes to you don't like you work in a or you live in a country That has some semblance of a democratic or voting process and because you don't like how it The results came out that you apply martial law that that sets a really bad precedent. I think that should be avoided at all costs Yeah, and it's ironic that he Called his opposition North Korean sympathizers when that's exactly the state that North Korea lives in 24-7 What is like the martial law?

oppression state. Yeah. Yeah. Indeed. Yeah. So I just didn't know if you heard about that. I've heard about it now. Okay.

Good. Yeah. I've enlightened you. Yeah. I'm enlightened. That's cool. You're supposed to bring the heat to these episodes. I thought that that was pretty interesting.

Is that not interesting to you? It says it's going to take sex months for it to like net itself out. Yeah. That's still interesting. There are shades of things that interest me in that. Okay. Cool. drones over New Jersey.

A lot of conspiracies about that. Before I tell you what I think it is, what do you think it is? As the young, impressionable person. Right, yeah. I mean, I don't know, obviously. I've heard, I saw a video of one, like, drone manufacturing guy that was like,

it looks like it might be like a gas leak survey or something like that. Like the drone is surveying a gas leak? Yeah, or something. I don't know. So it's an industrial product? Yeah, or something like that. Yeah. I can see that.

So DGI has some ridiculously cool technology. And I don't know how I stumbled onto their website. And I was looking at some industrial stuff. They have these autonomous drones that essentially, in the one video that I saw them on, they were surveying power lines. But they would go back and they would land in this. station, they would charge themselves. There was a protective clam shell that came over. It was awesome. Yeah. So I can totally see that it might be an industrial use of something like that.

The only thing that like is kind of doesn't make any sense to me is why the government is just like not, if that's what it is, why would they not just come out and say that? Sometimes the government doesn't tell you stuff. Let's say as a hypothetical, because I have absolutely no beta on any of this. Yeah. But let's say the cover story that they're using is is potentially an industrial leak. Yeah. But the reality is it's near a military base. Maybe they were doing a test flight with a live nuclear weapon and that fucker might have fallen off the wings.

Right? Yeah. They're not going to tell you what it is that they're looking for. And I would if I had the ability an authorization to do so. I would use every single drone and human platform possible to locate that before my head was put on the chopping block, which is going to happen eventually. but I think maybe it would be a less powerful blow if you found what it is you're looking for or you may have lost.

So oftentimes, you know, they'll give you this bullshit. Hey, it's an industrial gas leak or whatever it is. Probably not the case, but I bet you there's 40% truth. The truth in that would be we're looking for something. We're looking for something. The lie in that is we're not going to tell you exactly what it is because it might freak people out. Dude, maybe an alien landed and got out of the spaceship

and is running around. And they're looking for it. That's a I want it to be aliens. You know me well enough. I do too. But I feel horrible for them if where their first encounter is going to be Jersey.

Ooh. Yeah. It's tough. I feel like they need to get back on a ship and head down to Miami. And it's going to be fucking on. Dude's doing wheelies and crotch rockets with no shirt on and flip flops and fucking gaiters and just wild shit happening in Florida. That's where I think alien should check in first.

Good idea. Yeah. Yeah. So you're a subscriber to the lost nuke theory? I don't know if that theory is. I mean, I was giving you a hypothetical of what I could see the government. An example of the government doing something where they would not tell you what it is that they are doing. And they would probably say the reason we're not going to be truthful and upfront is we don't want to sow widespread panic.

Right. Yeah. And there's a whole argument or conversation in that should they just tell the truth, this, that or the other. But that's a different conversation. Yeah. I'm not saying that's what it is. I'm saying in my own personal and limited experience, I could see that being the case. Yeah.

Aliens to me, I mean, some of these drones, a good majority of them, have navigation lights on them. Which, that's the shittiest alien ever. That's a scream alien. And I've heard people saying they could be Iranian or Chinese. Yeah. That's the worst secret observation platform. ever. It's just blatantly obvious.

Use satellite imagery. You know, shit, we can't even see passing over our head. I mean, like, come on. Yeah. I think, again, and I think this is, I've said this a bunch about COVID, I think the government would have been so much better off just being honest and saying, we don't know, but this is our best information at the time. Yeah.

This is a slightly different situation, especially if it's the government behind it, but not saying anything other than the article that I saw today, which said New Jersey, you know, government telling people not to shoot at the drones? That's not helping. We can't tell you what it is, but don't go in your backyard and just go to the firing range. Yeah. That to me just makes it seem like they have, I mean, I'm sure they do have an idea. But it just makes it seem like it's almost them instigating or not instigating something,

but doing something with the drones or whatever. Maybe they are. I don't know. I don't know. But I don't think it's really anything nefarious because it's been. going on for like two weeks now. Yeah, and then I think there's a lot of hype that gets built around it. And then people, have ever heard about the, like the red car theory or the stop sign theory?

You don't see a lot of them until somebody brings it up and asks you, how often do you see that? And then for the next couple days, it's all you can see. Yeah, yeah. I'm not saying that's the case, but that is a real thing for you. Yeah, I bet that's a, yeah. I've been seeing some truly crazy conspiracies, like they're going to drop a nuke on like the Trump inauguration and use it to blame Iran to go into a war or something. And I'm just like, how does somebody actually believe that?

That's insane. If that happened, that would be the end of the world. Yeah. That would be full on nuclear World War III. And nobody escapes that. No. No, it's just a bad idea. Yeah.

Conspiracy theorists are pretty wild. They go crazy. So, Cron Gracie got knocked out. by was this recent yeah last Saturday and I really I didn't know he fought again no a couple weeks ago okay he jumped closed guard I'm looking this up and the dude slammed him and then elbowed him into the fucking next century or next year I should say 20 he's in 2025 already he's time traveling yeah so um the guy who knocked him out is a huge conspiracy theorist really I have heard him arguing devoutly about the ice wall in Antarctica.

He thinks that the world is flat. Is it Bryce Mitchell? That would make so much sense. Is that the hillbilly hammer? Yes, it is. Who I met in Nashville on our way home. And I fist-bumped him. I'm like, thank you so much for beating the living fuck out of Crohn Gracie.

Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. Okay. So I'm pretty sure, yeah, he's going to jump. Hold on. Let me just get up on. Pull that video up.

And for people who don't know what I'm talking about, jumping clothes guard would mean somebody's wrapping their legs around their opponent. Oh, hold on. Oh, no. What do we got here? Crohn's on the left. Yep. Oh, a little need of the face.

I'm glad this was filmed from the 400th row. Right. I imagine UFC hasn't released the official. Maybe not. Yep. Pretty stingy with that stuff. I don't know if we're going to get to... Oh, is it here?

He's getting ready to jump. Yep, there it is. That's guard. Oh, yeah, boom. Punch, punch, punch. In the old kidney. elbow in your face, fights over. Nice.

The man who beat the shit out of him. Bryce Mitchell. He is on record with some wild ideas. Let's just look some of these house. Go to PBD, Bryce Mitchell conspiracies. He believes that gay people are incapable of serving in the military. He believes that the earth is flat. And as somebody who's been to Antarctica, let me be clear.

There's no fucking ice wall there. It was ice. Oh, here we go. Where's some audio? Yeah, let me. We're 100% going to get probably kicked off of YouTube. No, no. Whoa, dude, that's Skinnered.

Don't be fucking playing Skinnerd. No, I don't even know what I did. Oh, my God. Hold on. How about this? For those of you, so we don't waste your time, go and just put Google, what's his name, Bryce, what? Bryce Mitchell. Bryce Mitchell.

Do Bryce Mitchell, P.BD. Patrick Beck David conspiracies. What do you got? You got one? Hit it. NASA is eating the word Satan You got to know what Ladies and gentlemen, you're welcome

Wow. I had no idea. You cannot spell Pride Month without demon. Which is true. It is technically true. Let's just put that in the category of things that I have never once thought about. No. It also means nothing. That man believes, though.

He's a true believer. Yeah. That is, for those of you who found enlightenment or entertainment on that short clip that we played, I assure you that the internet is full of more of that. Yeah. With that particular individual, it's pretty fucking awesome. That is, that's interesting. Yeah.

I had no clue he was such a conspiracy theorist. That's cool. Good for him. Is it good for him? I mean, live your life. You know what I mean? He seems to be. He was a very nice man in person.

Cool. Yeah. He was there with his wife and very young child. Yeah. Chatted with him briefly. Yeah. Nice. That's awesome.

Dive in people as much as you want to. Okay. What's next here? Have you seen, I think this was a long time ago, but I just saw this video, Honduras Special Forces parachuting into. Oh, yeah. Oh, do you have any idea how many times this has been forwarded to me? and people will say what went wrong here.

My response is just everything. Pull that video up. It's fucking great. So demonstration skydiving. I'll break it down as you find it. Civilian skydiving. There is an A license, B license, C license, D license. I don't even remember what's required to get those things.

And then yours your pro rating, which is essentially a demonstration license and you have to do additional knowledge and training on things like pyotechics. Part of that is landing in confined areas. stadiums, which I'll put this into the stadium category, can be challenging. And they don't have a lot of what we like to call outs, meaning once you reach this threshold of commitment, and most of the time, it's as you're looking down between your feet and you cross that threshold of entering over the top at the stadium, you are committed. And baseball stadiums are different than football, but it's actually, conceptually, it's not difficult.

You plan in brief and altitude to cross that threshold. And let's say you're coming into a baseball stadium. Maybe you'll follow the outfield wall and come down the third baseline and land going towards first base. Or you could go the other direction. Football, you enter and cross that threshold. You could follow one of the sidelines down all the way to the end. If you're a little bit high, you take it farther. If you're a little bit shorter, you start your turn earlier and you land facing downfield.

Okay. Do you think any of those calculations went into this particular video? Oh, I bet they did. I bet they thought they had planned it incredibly well. We're just going to let this one play itself out. And highlight, you're welcome again. Not really to the listener because you're going to be sitting there going, what the fuck are they laughing at? But for the viewer who can see this, this is called, I say this often.

Parachuting and skydiving is awesome until it's not. This is an example of it being not. Yeah. Go ahead. Let's watch. Oh, I love the music too. Yeah, very. So this person is, I mean, they're committed.

They're over the top of the people. They're making their final turn in. Oh, no. And, yeah, that's how you double femur yourself. It looks like a marching band that he landed on top of. So dash two is coming in. He's like, I got an idea. Let's just go fucking long into the bleachers.

Oh, a little bit short, porta potty. Nice. Hopefully there was somebody in there taking a deuce that just got. Yeah. All right. So number three and number four, taking a different approach. Number three here is like, I got an idea. Let's go straight into the stands.

All of this stuff, The wind interacts differently. The closer you get to that stuff. This last guy has had the answers to the test in front of him the whole time. He should have watched every jumper come in. And instead he goes with the same as the number three guy. Let's just bounce our canopy off the roof and then stuff it into the crowd. Good call.

Is there another jumper? Please tell me there's one more. No, I think that was it. And here's the thing. The first jumper in, you are the wind sock dummy for everybody else. Yeah. If you go a little bit long, if you know what you're doing, you're watching where the person entered the stadium. Where did they make their final turn?

Do they go long or short? You have the answers to the test in front of you. What I like is that these guys all had the answers to the test and they said, fuck that. Hold my beer. Not a single one of them touched down on that massive soccer pitch, which is bigger than a football field, by the way. My favorite one, though, is the guy who went into the shitter. Because I hope there there's somebody on there, and you know they're probably there on their phone, just sweating it out in a, in a Colombian port of shitter in 100 degree temperature and 130 inside.

Yeah. And they just get, because the guys rocked the front door and moved the thing like three feet backwards. That's my favorite part. And the guy's going into the crowd from the overhead on it. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck, man.

Yeah. So you would say that is a demonstration of poor skydiving technique. I feel like they did their best. And sometimes your best is just not good enough. It just isn't good enough. There is a reason why to get your pro rating from the USPA, the United States Parachute Association. Yeah. That you have, there's a knowledge and an experience test. And one of the things you have to do. And again, it's been a really long time since I got my pro rating. So you have to declare 10 jumps, not sequentially, but you have to, like as you're getting ready to go, you're going to work with probably a safety and training advisor. You declare, I think it's a, I think it's a 10 meter circle. You have to land inside of that or you're a, first, is it either your first point of contact or your last one. Regardless, there's a tight

accuracy requirement and you have to declare 10 times. You can do it sequentially, but you could do one day and, you know, four of the next, whatever it is. Oh, I see. You miss any one of those, you start over. Interesting. And there's a reason for that. And we just saw what happens when maybe they didn't play the circle drill. Yeah. Or maybe their circle was like more of a jerk. 50 meters. Yeah. Yeah. There was more of a circle jerk than a circular landing. Because I feel like an ambulance was called. Yeah, some of those crashes look pretty brutal.

Yeah. Skydiving is awesome until it's not. Yeah. And don't try to jump into stadiums or compressed areas or high consequence areas unless you're actually trained and equipped to do so.

Those canopies were not great for demonstrations either. Those were, and again, the first few times I've watched the video haven't dug into it deeply. They looked like military canopies that were much bigger.

They're going to float a little bit more. Yeah. Yeah, get some. Kids, indeed. Okay, next. Oh, I saw this article. An AI, and I'm not sure exactly what company made it. Oh, I think it actually was the same company that does chat GBT.

Okay. They made an AI and it knew that it was about to be shut down. so it made a copy of itself and this was all in a simulated environment so none of this actually happened in real life that's what they're telling us right it made a copy of itself on another server so that it would still exist

after it got shut down on the other server and when asked about it it lied about it fuck yeah so let me pull up that article because it's it's wild I think in as far as our human evolution we're currently in the fuck around and find out phase yeah it seems like we're gonna find out pretty

quickly. Yeah. There's a chance we're going to be working daily for a water ration for a robot army here pretty soon. OpenAI's new chat GPT-O-1 model will try to escape if it thinks it will be shut down, then lies about it. So this isn't even like, this is just their newer version. Yeah, yeah. All right, scroll down. I'm going to read some of this. New research on open AI's series of large language models or LLMs found that it's capable of scheming. I don't know if I like that word paired with artificial intelligence. I like that word a lot. I don't use it enough. No, it's a good word.

All right. So this AI is scheming. Yes. Covertly pursuing goals that aren't aligned with its developers or users. That is enough for me to hear right there that a fire act should be taken to whatever the fuck this thing lives in. Yeah. When it thinks it'll be turned off. So it'll do those things when it thinks it's going to be turned off.

Catching such behavior is critical to ensure AI's functionality doesn't stray from the objective. of its creator and users. Open AI partnered with AI safety organization Apollo Research to test out chat GPT, 01. Why do you think that zero is smaller than the one? It's like a lowercase zero and a one instead of them both being the same size. I wonder if it's 01, maybe? Maybe. And other models to evaluate whether they were safe to use and release their findings this week.

Let me see here. Researchers found that 01 would scheme to advance its own agenda 19% of the time. in cases where its goals and users didn't line up. In 37% of the cases, the model would switch from pursuing developer-aligned goals back to pursuing its own agenda once it believed there was minimal oversight. Oh, my God. Yeah. At one point after the AI found documentation saying it would be replaced by a new model,

it tried to abandon ship by copying its data to a new server entirely. To avoid being deleted, some AIA models would even pretend to be later versions of the models to trick their developers. What I assume is the equivalent of slapping on a fake mustache and saying he went that way. Dude, we're only like five years into this. Yeah, it's already doing this. How do you think they test this stuff? Do you think they tested an air-gapped servers?

I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Like, what do they call it a singularity where it becomes? What is it cognizant? I don't know. Sentient, perhaps? Yeah, I think so.

LLMs. I use chat GPT all the time. Yeah. And for when I first started using it, I was trying to figure out ways that I would actually use it. I mean, I've used it to create templates for contracts, business letter, like all sorts of stuff. Yeah. You know, recipes, actually. Yeah.

And, yeah, if we're this early into it, I just, I'm thinking about my kids, kids, their generation. Like, what are they going to have access to? Yeah, it's going to be pretty insane, actually. I feel like unless something crazy happens. I feel like you have to revamp the entire educational system as well. Yeah. The curriculum of what it is that we're, because, dude, can you imagine being in school? And one, I didn't have a laptop in school.

Yeah, yeah. I remember, I think it was my junior year. I took my first computer class on a machine that functioned at about the pace that the sun sets. Yeah. And, uh, but can you imagine? having a laptop like the one sitting on the desk and having the ability to look up anything or put because now you can, I've had it export stuff into PDF into Word, you can put attachments into it. You can polish it up. You can ask it to sound more human or it's, I can't even like English

was one of my favorite classes. I always enjoyed writing. Yeah. But the ability to just put a prompt in and spit out something that's almost undetectable. Yeah. It's kind of crazy. It's insane. And have you seen some of these newer AI videos? Yeah. Thank God they're not great. They're getting good. They're getting good. But at this point, you can still tell the movement is off.

It seems to have a really hard time with walking and fingers. Yeah. But again, we're so early into this. Yeah. I don't know, man. Well, Sora, remember like a long time ago, I showed you Sora. Yeah. And those were actually really good.

They were good and they're only going to get better. Yeah. Like, if that's the base model, like imagine. And like you could make a full scale movie and nobody could tell it was AI. It'll get to that point. My guess it will be at that point. Within the next five years, I would say. I was going to say in under a decade.

I was going to put the timeline out a little bit farther. Somebody will do it in five years. Yeah. But it will, it'll be pretty obvious is my guess. But I bet you in about 10, you might be able to fool quite a few people. Well, the, you remember that the story of the AI art piece that won that con, that competition. That was only like six months into that, what's that one called mid-journey. Yeah.

Into mid-journey being publicly available. Wait till AI is just teaching AI about AI stuff. Yeah. What is funny about that is there's a lot of images going around that it is, there's so much AI images that the AI is starting to pull from those in creating really, really messed up pictures. And it's so funny. Because it's tricking the AI. Now it can't determine what's reality and what is it. Yeah, because it's making like copies of a copy of a copy of a copy.

And it just gets worse each time. Yeah. So that part is kind of funny. But I feel like they'll find a way around that eventually. Yeah. I like it. What, uh, how long we've been gone? 30 minutes?

Uh, 40. Yeah. Okay. Question for you. 2025. What do you think we had a change for the podcast for 2025? There's some changes coming up that I can tell you about offline. But what do you think, uh,

What do you think we should change? I have thought sometimes. Yeah. And perhaps the listeners can answer. I still get an incredible volume of questions. Yeah. But I think, given that you're 23. 25.

Whatever. I think it might be beneficial to involve you in more of those full out of Friday ones so we can bounce it back and forth. And so people are not just getting my impression. Yeah. Because I'm pretty close to death from old age. Yeah. You're really old.

Yep. older than I ever thought I would be. What else? What else do you think we should change? What do you think works? What do you think doesn't work? I feel like I have thought about this and I have suggestions and then I forgot all of them just right now. Cool.

Sounds like you really care. Yeah, I really, really care. You're a piece of shit. I know. I don't know. I feel like what we have going is like pretty good. Oh, yes, this is something I've thought about a lot. personally for me I like the old titles you used to do where it was episode number guest

name you talking about in the description yeah or just the title itself because now you know the titles you do are like a more descriptive of what the episode is so just save that that for the episode description and for me and maybe this is just me being yeah what is it about that you don't like sometimes I just try to put like a little bit of a teaser up there of what it's going to be for me and you know again maybe this is just like me being autistic. I really like everything to be the same template. And it looks very nice to me. Have you ever actually been diagnosed with autism? No. Okay. But are you a doctor? No, I'm just saying that as a joke. Okay. I feel like I don't actually think that. I feel like

that's a serious joke for you. That it's an excuse that you use at other places in your life. No. Oh, sorry, the tism got me. No, I say that as a joke. It's funny. All right. Good. Because you're not autistic. I know. I know that. I know that because you're not good enough at Jiu-Jitsu. Because the best people in the world in Jiu-Jitsu are clearly weapons-grade fucking autism. Yeah. Which is a joke you stole from me, by the way. Okay. Which I probably, yeah, who knows where we got that from? There's anything ever unique that's been created in quite some time. No, probably not. Just recycling shit. But I said that. And then first of all, you don't laugh at my jokes on purpose sometimes. I feel like. They are so dumb sometimes. Yeah, but sometimes they're good. And I can tell you're not laughing. Who? They're good what?

They're good to who. You. No. Yes. The reason I don't laugh at them is honestly I'm embarrassed for you. No, I have this one specific example. Remember last year we were hunting? Hold the fuck on.

You have had this? Yes. Free rent kicking around in your head since last year. Yeah, I honestly just forget about it. But we brought it off. Clearly not. Clearly not. Fire away, sir.

What did I say to you? last year. So we were hunting, right? Yeah. And we were talking about something. Everything. Everything. Yeah.

And I don't even remember who came up, but it was like, oh, that guy, it seems like he has autism. And I was like, yeah, that's like weapons grade autism. And I looked at you. And I was like, man, it seemed like Andy would laugh at that. I looked at you and you like had a little smirk, but you didn't laugh. And I was like, huh, okay. The day later, you're like talking about something.

And you're like, yeah, that's weapons grade autism. And I was like, you motherfucker. You just stole that from me. And you thought it was funny, obviously. Otherwise, you wouldn't have used it. I have no recollection of that. And I am so happy that it's living rent free in your fucking head. So, yeah, I feel like sometimes you purposely don't laugh at my jokes.

I mean, I have no recollection of that. But what I can guarantee is that your delivery was off. No, no, it wasn't. It was perfect. That's how I know it was off. Just listening to you say that, I know it was just a complete fuck show. probably stuttered on the way out and it's out.

We also have like... Stay on track, 2025. Oh, yeah. How can we make it better for the listener, viewer? We have some pretty cool guests coming up. I'm not going to tip my hand to anything.

There's some cool stuff. What I can say is I'm still going to be working with Black Rifle, but a couple more brands as well, changing the advertising format a bit. Nice. Yeah. Yeah, I like the, like I was saying, the consistent title cards.

Okay. I like that. Yeah. And I actually have talked to at least one person that said that they liked the consistent title cards better as well. Okay. Yeah. Just some random guy, listener.

Like, so. Just some random guy. Thank you for that data point. Yeah. You're welcome. Yeah. That's actually a pretty good data point. It is good data point.

Yeah. I listen to that stuff for sure. Yeah. So that's like the one thing that I have been thought. I have thought about. How about from here on out you can just do the thumbnail stuff and then that way it's exactly how you like it with your autistic brain? I will do that.

I've offered multiple times to do everything. Yeah, but I just, I know you're not serious. I am serious. No. I would totally do that. What else would you like to do? So right now you do the camera switching. Yes.

I do the ad read, obviously. And I can't outsource that because if I'm going to work with the brands, I want the listener or viewer to see me and hear my voice. Yeah, absolutely. And that's one of the chain. I mean, I can talk about that. I guess one of the changes I'm going to make in 2025 is I'm going to actually take all the,

like I upload to Libson, as you know, because you've done it a few times. They have a monetization or advertising platform that I have no control over what ads they put in there. So we could be doing, like with Chris Piotta, we could be doing an episode about the FBI, and they could have, you know, where he's talking about the shift and change in culture,

and there literally might be an FBI ad for recruiting in that. That's so funny. Pointing, I don't know. Not that that would necessarily be a bad thing, but I don't know. And I, and like the money from it is, is not, it's not non-existent, but it's not meaningful. Not significant, yeah. And YouTube's the same way.

I don't have any control over what advertisement they put in there. So I'm going to demonetize all the platforms and just there's going to be two ads per episode. One in the beginning, one in the middle, and that's it. And it's all going to be my voice. It's going to be me. I just think that's better. That way they know. Yeah, I agree.

That seems like a really good idea. Standard template. Yeah. Beginning and maximum 60 seconds on both. Feel free to skip them if you want to. But, like, that's one thing I've thought about to improve the experience for the user slash listener as well. That seems like you're going to do to me. Yeah.

Yeah. You can do the thumbnails if you want to. I'm going to redo the what the thumbnail looks like anyway and make it just a little bit cleaner. I'm working with a guy right now to redo some of the branding. Nice. Which will roll over into the soft goods and stuff as well, too. So, yeah. I mean, it's never ending.

Yeah. What else do you want to do that I don't let you do? Um, I mean, it's not that, like, I can't. switch for an episode and I can do the camera switching and you can interview the guest? That's a really good idea actually. Okay. No, just kidding. I actually don't like that idea.

That 100% means we're going to do it then, especially if you don't like it. Yeah. And I feel like that would just be completely not what the audience wants. But maybe it's what they need. Maybe. I guess. All right. Final thoughts.

What do you have to close out for the holiday season, Christmas season? What do you want to say, Michael, you take us away? Man, I don't really know. Have a good Christmas. Go listen to this after Christmas. What'd you ask for for Christmas? A camera. Yeah.

Cool. Just a little starter camera, nothing crazy. It's about all you're qualified for. I know. That's why I asked for a starter camera. Cool. All right. Until next time.

Merry Christmas.