Cleared Hot - Powered By BRCC - Choices Have Consequences | Negligent Discharge Friday | 6.3.2026

Episode Date: July 3, 2026

Most of this one comes down to one thing. Choices have consequences, and you own them. It starts with an email. A listener says the veteran community runs on lies and has an integrity problem, then sends it from an address that bounces. Transmit only. I read the whole thing and my response. A host who platforms a guest isn't endorsing them, and the size of an audience tells you nothing about the truth. Then the news. Dustin Poirier gets arrested at an airport and threatens the officers, and we talk about how knowing a man's capabilities changes everything for the cop standing in front of him. An Air Force major gets himself arrested at the Capitol. Own it. A pastor beats down a man who threatened his family, broken down like a fight — job title doesn't cancel your right to defend your people. A streamer provokes the wrong guy and gets dropped. And in Ukraine, low tech meets high tech: a rifle out the back of a Yak-52, hunting drones. Join the Cleared Hot Newsletter: https://www.clearedhotpodcast.com Take the Operator Code Assessment: https://theoperatorcode.com/   Today's Sponsors:  Helix:  Go to https://www.helixsleep.com/CLEAREDHOT for 20% off Sitewide | 25% off Luxe Mattresses | 30% off Elite Mattresses  LMNT:  https://www.drinklmnt.com/clearedhot

Okay, got the red smoke. I'm looking at danger close now. What do you have planned, Michael, for the 250th birthday of our nation? You will be alive to see the 300th, so maybe you'll have your big banger party then. In 50 years. I don't know, actually. I think we're going to go floating on the swan tomorrow or Saturday. On Swan Lake?

River. I was going to say it. Yeah. I don't know how far you would float. That would be wind dependent, I feel like that. Yeah, yeah, no, that wouldn't be very good float. But, yeah, Swan River. Where do you enter that over by a big fork?

Yeah, by the, you know where the A bar is? No. It's, anyways, yeah, it's, well, it's actually kind of in the Swan area. You go down the Swan a little ways, maybe 10 miles, and there's a put in. Spectacular broad description of what you plan on doing and where. That's, that was the plan, actually, yeah. Okay. Congratulations on that. Good job.

You're going to do fireworks. You're going to risk any of your limbs, fingers? I never get fireworks. If I do do fireworks, it's because I went somewhere like somebody's house that has them. Real party, I'm a real party. Yeah. I mean, you know that. I'm a crazy, crazy guy. I've seen you crush some rosé. Yeah, Jose's good. chilled. I don't know if room temperature rosé is good. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not going to knock a chilled rosé in the proper setting.

Like at the top of a hotel. Yes. I mean, that's where I saw you crushing rosé. I don't know if it's a good Kentucky Derby drink. Not that I've been to the Kentucky Derby, but I think, don't they do mint drinks there, mint juleps or something like that? I have no clue. All right. before we kick off, every once in a while, I get a good email that I would like to read

and address for the audience. And I think people will understand why. And this is not an attempt to highlight anything negative. I would actually consider this email to be very neutral. But it highlights two things that are interesting. The first one is this. I'm not that hard to get a hold of. And I do my best to read and respond to the emails that I do get. I apologize. If I don't get back to every single one, I'm doing the best that I'm doing the best that. I can. I also have other things personally and professionally I have to work on. It's not hard to reach out to me or figure out how to get a hold of me. Your email is everywhere. It's out there. And I also have a contact me on both the cleared hot podcast website and the Andystumpf.com website,

which sends it directly to me. It is so interesting to me the difference in emails between those who provide contact information back and those that don't. Wait, so can people, people, People send anonymous emails? Yes. Oh, interesting. They can. Okay. And they almost always fall into two types of buckets.

If the feedback is going to be negative or a critique of me as a person, which I'm totally fine with because there's plenty of things that I could do better. No issue with a critique of me as a person. Some things I can't change. I'm as tall as I am. My eyes are the color that they are. So my voice sounds like what it does. I apologize if those things are offensive to you in some way. Can't solve those.

negative feedback or tell me, you know, people writing in telling me that I'm a cuck for the, government, you know, the military industrial complex never has a response. The more negative the feedback, the less likely it is to receive an email that I could respond to. And most of the times I wouldn't. But sometimes, and this is an example of one where, like I said, there's certainly feedback in this, but I consider it neutral. And it actually highlights a couple of things that I think are important for people to remember, which is why I wrote back. Hit send and it says mailbox can't be found. And that's when people put in, they want to, they want to be transmit only.

Yeah. They want to be critical, but they don't want to hear what you have to say. And live your life however you want to. If you want to live yourself in a closed off walled garden like that, please by all means do. But I'll read the email, then I'll read my response. Okay. I don't listen to, let me, what was the subject? Subject was Q&A. I thought we were going to get a question.

That's what I would assume. Yeah. I don't listen to military-based podcasts anymore. I don't read the books. My grandfather served in the Pacific during the war, and so I read all the great books like with the old breed and helmet for my pillow. I never understood why he was so quiet about his service and disgusted with my interest in those books. Now, after American sniper and the lone survivor, I get why he was.

We have no idea who's a liar and who isn't. I can't listen to a podcast without having a, a idea if a guy is a bullshit artist or not. If a podcaster has a man on who insists Bigfoot is an alien living in the South Pole who was transported there via time travel portal by Raytheon, and he put in parentheses the show that did that, I'll leave that out of it, and then has a veteran on the next day telling a bunch of war stories, how am I supposed to take it as anything other than fiction? If it is all fiction, I'm better off going back to Charles Dickens.

I don't even expect you to respond to this. I just think it's sad. The last community that was really respected by all has kind of an integrity problem. I know it won't get fixed. There's too much profit in lies. I didn't read your book, and I won't. I like your podcast, though, as it is the last one I still listened to. I hope we don't end up to find out you were a cook on an aircraft.

carrier. Not that there's anything wrong with that. You can hate me all you want. It's not because people are too fat that they are no longer joining up in numbers that they used to. It's because the next generation is smarter and they know about the integrity problem. So that's the email that I received. And it happened to catch me in a moment where I was in front of the computer. So I wrote back. Mail delivery address not found. The podcast is brought to you by Helix. This remains one of the easiest ad reads for me to do because I sleep on a Helix mattress. every night. I've said it so many times. Every time Leah and I travel, when we're on our flight home, we say the same thing. Oh, I cannot wait to get back into our bed. A good night's rest is going to set

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Back to the show. he did put in an email address or I'm going to I know it's a he based off the name assuming that it was the name that he used I'll leave the name out of it and it there was an email address that looks like it could be real most of the fake ones are like one eight four or random stringing yeah random string of numbers maybe there was a misspelling maybe there was chance per chance here's what I wrote back I appreciate the email and I understand your perspective unfortunately you will never find out that I served on an aircraft carrier it's not because that was my classified service. It's because that just didn't happen. My military record is very straightforward and openly verifiable. You can take that or leave it for what it's worth. I'm always honest about my service, what I experienced, and what I didn't. Your email is interesting. I'm curious why you took the time to write to me. Sure, there are examples of those that have issues with integrity, but for some reason you are hyperfixating on those and ignoring the vast majority who do not. Why is that? The veteran community is comprised of people.

and people have issues. No one is perfect, and some people are motivated by fame, fortune, or the combination of the two. Others are not. Do the bad apples speak for the community as a whole? They certainly do not, and I would challenge you to give me an example of any community that does not have their fair share of individuals struggling with integrity. It is not a community problem. It's a people problem. If you confuse the size of someone's audience with their integrity or authenticity, you're always going to be susceptible to their influence. Why would I hate on you for any reason? Because you have true but critical things to say about the veteran community? That doesn't bother me. If you do actually follow my show, then you should

know that I'm also very critical of the community at times. The truth is the truth and should never be hidden. Why do you feel the need to tell me that you didn't read my book and then further emphasize that you won't? What reaction are you hoping to achieve from me by saying that? I hate to break it to you, but it has no impact on me. I wrote the book as an attempt to have a positive impact on the world around me. I received hundreds of emails from people thanking me for doing so and letting me know that they found it at a time when it made an immense impact on their life. I know that I can never please everyone, and I am making no attempt to do so. There is little to no money in book publishing, at least not for the author.

I wrote the book for impact, not for money. I suspect that every generation feels it is smarter and more evolved than the ones before it. There is nothing new there. Depth of belief and validity of belief are not connected. Only time will tell if your statement is true. Thanks for taking the time to email, even though it seems as if it was just event session, aimed at someone who is actually trying to do their best with the small impact that they have, Andy. So a few things.

Hold on. I have to go back to the actual email itself. Because I do think it highlights some stuff. As a consumer of content, Michael, you listen to other people. You listen to other podcasts, right? Sometimes. Not really, honestly, but I do. I have.

Okay. As the listener, if it's an established platform, and let's use the two examples, somebody who thinks that Bigfoot was laser transported somehow by Raytheon and then a veteran the next day. I don't know what some people's expectations are from the host. I think there is certainly a line, and it comes down to people will say, well, why would you platform that individual? In platforming them, it would or can appear that you are inherently or tacitly supporting their message or you agree with them. And I can understand why some people would say that. Or you could look at it and say the host is not responsible for the beliefs of the person. person that they are sitting down and having a conversation with, they're responsible for facilitating

the conversation, listening to what the person says, pushing back as they feel it's appropriate or engaging the conversation as you feel it's appropriate. Yes. Because I'm here to tell you that there's no way that any host ever can be 100% completely read in on everything that's going to come up on an episode, especially when it's long form. Yeah. And so I just want to caution people, specifically when it, as I mentioned in the email, if you are looking for a podcast host or a show host that knows everything about the person that they're going to bring on,

I'm here to tell you that it's just not possible. As somebody who creates content, you can't do it. You can know the broader, larger wave tops. And also as a host, it doesn't mean that you support what the person is saying. You are in the room for this. We have a recorded episode right now that will be released in a few weeks. And I'm not going to say that I was mad during that episode, but I was definitely frustrated by some of the things that were said. And there is a vast difference in the beliefs of the individual talking about what they were talking about in my own personal beliefs.

Yes. And you were in the room. I think I pushed back and challenged that guest more than any other guest than I have since you and I have worked together. That is true. Maybe ever. Probably ever. And I tried to do it as professionally as possible. but as intentionally and concisely as possible as well.

Having that person on the show doesn't mean that I believe everything that they say is true. It doesn't mean that I believe anything that they say. But the topic, and I will leave the topic, I'm going to leave this broad and I apologize. People are probably wondering what the hell we were talking about. Well, the collapse of survival or of the collapse of society is largely what we were talking about. And things associated with that and preparation. around those things. I'm interested in that topic.

And sitting down and having a conversation with somebody trying to develop a deeper level of understanding in no way, shape, or form means that I agree with what that person was saying. Yeah. And as the listener, I guess you are free to make whatever assessment you want. But not everybody has the same beliefs. Not everybody is out there trying to have a positive impact. There are 100% bullshit artists out there. There are 100% just bought in conspiracy theorists out there. As a host of a show, I should be able to, if I maintain my morals and integrity in who I am and how I want to present the show, be able to sit down with somebody like that who I disagree with.

And then literally the next day we had a conversation with a veteran and talked about their military record. Now, I'm not going to say we went as far as transported there via time travel ported by Raytheon, but there was some divergence in beliefs for sure. That episode has nothing to do with the integrity of the next guest that is on the show. I think you have to look at it as an individual. It's an individual journey. Every one of them is an enclosed time capsule that I think you would be better served to view as that time capsule and not extrapolate out from that. Unless you feel that the host is malicious in nature or they are a bullshit artist in Nacer.

And if that's the case, if you feel that way, why are you consuming the content in the first place? Right. You know what I mean? I can only be myself. We record these episodes. We do the rendering. I hit upload and it goes where it goes. And I stay true to my morals.

Take some agency in how you are receiving the information. And I would say that regardless of the type of information that you are consuming, whether that's social media, traditional media, whatever it may be, there is bias in all of those things. bullshit artists in all of those things as well too. Just remember that. And even if somebody has a massive show, that doesn't necessarily mean that the people that they have on are 100% authentic or truthful. It just means they have a larger platform from which if they are not those things to have a negative influence. Yes. And as a human being, I mean, believe what you want to believe, but maybe be slow in getting into your beliefs and realize that maybe, yeah, You're sitting down and a conversation goes in a completely different way.

You're still having that conversation. I'm telling you right now as the host of a show, you don't know which way they're going to go. Sometimes it's a little bit wild. Sometimes you're over there. You stop doodling and you start laughing because we don't know where it's going to go, but you do the best that you can. I think it's just sad that the last community that was really respected by all has this kind of integrity problem. I hate to break it to you, but the military or veteran community is not respected by all by any stretch of the imagination. and you really are hyper-fixating and focusing on the things that you perceive to be negative,

and you are completely leaving out the people who I think are living up to every ounce of that integrity. So that's just food for thought. It won't get fixed. There's too much profit and lies. I don't know if that's necessarily the case. The profit, I don't think, comes from lies or telling the truth. It comes from the size of the audience with which you are promoting your message. The actual profit in the space, the podcasting space, is based on. off the size of your audience multiplied by the dollar figure that an advertiser is going to be willing to pay you. So it's not necessarily the lies. It's as it gets bigger, the numbers get bigger. And people who want to lie to a bigger audience will seek out the bigger shows. But

there are plenty of examples of shows that are out there that have nothing to do with lying, that are huge, that are massive. And actually, as I say, that have nothing to do with lying, about 50% of the U.S. population currently would believe that it has to do with lying because they align on the other side of the political eye. So again, a little bit of a little bit of of hyperfixation and you're speaking very hyperbolicly. I address the book thing. People aren't joining because they are no, not because they are fat. It's because they're smarter and they know about the integrity problem. I wish I could have a conversation with this person. I wish you had put your actual email in there so we could go back and forth and I could get a better understanding

of the data points that you are using. I feel like for whatever reason, whatever was going on in your life, you wanted to send me this email and vent for a little bit, which again, as I respond, to is totally okay. And I will engage professionally. I read you every word of my response, professional and 100% aspect of that. Throwing a message out and wanting to be in transmit only is a way to live your life. And if you want to live your life that way, go ahead. If you want to develop a deeper understanding of the world that is around you, engage in conversations with people. And for those of you who just want to reach out and get your point across and not allow for that two-way dialogue, again, live your life the way that you want to. But

I think that's the technical definition of being a cunt. I think so. If you want to have a conversation, let's do it. Don't be a little bitch, though, and just try to be a child and say, this is how I feel and then slam the door on your way up. If that's what you want to do, then do me a favor. Save us both the time. And just don't even. Don't even do it.

If you want to engage in a conversation, I'm here for it. I am who I am. Like I said, I'm not everybody's cup of tea. and that's okay. I'm not trying to be. That's all I have, Michael. The rest of the show's up to you. That was good.

Don't be a cunt. Don't be a cunt. That's a good idea. Yeah, like I seemed a little frustrated with... I would love to have a dialogue with that person to understand where they come from. I really, really would. But, and maybe the person does actually listen.

If you do, hit me back up and put your actual email on there and we can go back and forth. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Dustin Porier Yeah Father's Day activities

Father's Day activities What do you got? Pull it up I would hate to be the cop in this scenario Yes What exactly happened Okay he was arrested at the Atlanta airport After he was denied boarding I think he was too drunk

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What's the other? What's up? Watch it. Let's go. Let's go. You can lie. Yeah, who else are playing? All my boys went to the crib.

Now what the fuck. All right. You do dust the boys? Yeah, fuck you, bro. All right. All right. All right. Yeah, fuck you and fuck her.

I'll fight you right now. No, I don't want to fight, bro. I've seen enough. Yeah. I've seen enough. You know, when you encounter random people, I guess there are a lot. And this I think is I'm making an assumption here in the law enforcement world, which obviously this is body cam. If you encounter a random person, I think there's a lot of unknowns when it comes to capabilities.

If you encounter Dustin Porrier, and he is telling you that he wants to fight you, even though you can't, can tell he's visibly intoxicated, dropping his bag, there are more knowns than unknowns at this point. And you want to talk, and I can't speak as anybody who has experienced in the use of force protocol for the police. But this is not an unknown where you don't know whether or not they could do severe bodily damage to you. Yeah. Their capabilities. You know exactly who this person is. Yeah. You know what they do for living. You know their capability. If you, Michael, were the response, you were the peace officer.

Oh, geez. Responding to this. You recognize this person. What does that do to your threat radar in your own head right there? And he's talking about fighting? Yeah. Yeah. So are you going to go hands on with this person?

I would try not to. Probably not because the worst thing you could do would be let this man get a hold of you. He probably would jump a guillotine. Yep. He is fond of that. He is. And I respect it. And I respect the fact that his coaches were screaming at him in the middle of the round

and on the bench in between saying, don't do that. And he basically looked at them and said, I'll never stop. And then threw it again. And I respect it. It is really funny. But what, I mean, you want to talk about putting the responders in a position where, okay, hands-on isn't going to work.

We're going to need a fleet of people to deal with this person. So you're already escalating to your tool belt. you've got taser and then you've got lethal. Yeah. Yeah. It's a horrible place to be in. And I don't know, obviously, Dustin, I don't know him at all. I've never met the person, never said a word to him.

He's not being the best expression of himself in this environment. Yeah. I am sure if watching this back, which I will assume he probably has, he's probably had it sent to him by a few people. I'm sure. That's going to be one of those moments. where you feel sick to your stomach because that's not, it's not who you want to be. Again, I'm making some assumptions. I don't know him at all.

So not the best expression of who he would want to be. I would hope that he, in a moment of sobriety and objectivity and reflection later on, would take a moment to realize this situation that he was putting these people in, knowing how dangerous of a human being that he is. Yeah. This is how that use of force continuum rapidly escalates. Because if you have a professional UFC fighter threatening to harm people to include officers, your options are now very limited.

Yeah. And I wouldn't want to be in that situation. And having said that, hey to tell you, buddy, you're not that special. You got kicked off a plane just like any other drunk person is going to get kicked off. of a plane. And they're not doing anything to you because of who you are. They are doing those things to you or not allowing you on because of what you did. I have no idea how famous he is outside of the circles of MMA. I'd say he's very famous inside of those circles. I don't know what that feels like. I don't know how that changes your perception on the

world around you. But I'll just say this. Be better. Let's be better. Yeah. I've never had this happen. I've been the drunk asshole. I've been the guy who was just not the person that I wanted to be by drinking too much. I get it. I totally get it. I'm not saying I'm impervious to that for the remainder of my life. I've never taken it this far and engaged in this manner and a airplane and with the cops there. This is a very, very rough look. And I hope he takes it seriously. This is a maybe not rock bottom, but the elevator's on the way down. And maybe we can find a nice foundation from there to work on and go forward. How did it end?

I think another. They didn't fight because that would have made front page news. I think another officer showed up and they were able. Well, actually, he calms down. Good. I'm pretty sure he calms down. Yeah, let's bump it forward just a little bit. I mean, look at that though.

Like, pause it? Yeah. You hear the tasers already out? Yep. I mean, again, postured up pre-violence indicators, bawling up his fist. This is stuff. And again, this is a professional fighter.

Yeah. If that taser doesn't work or he misses and Dustin gets on top of him or starts throwing kicks and punches, what would be the expectation from the officer? You just have to eat that. Yeah, that's not going to end well. And if the taser doesn't work, where are we going next? And I know you and I both agree that all officers should train jiu-jitsu. I don't care what belt this dude is. This is not a jiu-jitsu class.

This is Dustin Porey. Yeah. Yeah. Did you hear the taser firing up though? The whole wine. Yeah. Yep. Already out.

He is going to fucking tase you. Okay. Yeah. So he calms down. What was his statement? Walking away from fighting hasn't been easy for me. Alcohol isn't the answer? Yes.

Yes. That's real. I am sure there is an identity crisis that occurs from anybody who goes from the spotlight to outside of the spotlight, identity and purpose and both of those things. I'm incredibly glad. that that ended that way. Yeah. Because if you put yourself in that officer's shoes,

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Back to the show. Dustin, I'll put him as probably one of the more dangerous human beings on earth with his hands. Dude, be better. Yeah. As a professional fighter, don't,

well, ex-professional fighter, but as somebody who I think probably made a couple million dollars or millions of dollars fighting people, save it for the ring or the gym, man. Yeah, for sure. knows you're a badass. These people recognized you for a reason. Yeah, why do you think they didn't engage immediately? Like, you want to fight? No. No, more than anything else in my life. I don't want to

fight you right now. You're actually one of the only people I don't want to fight. Yeah, not now, not ever. Yeah. Send everyone. Yeah. I'm glad he responded the way that he did. Yeah. Hopefully a taser would have worked, but those things are not as effective as people believe. Yeah. And I just can't, I mean, what would people expect from the officer if he had started swinging on him, beating the shit out of him and the taser hadn't worked? I believe, again, and this is, there's more knowns than unknowns. He knows what he's capable of. I think any court of law would view that, and this is a wild assumption, obviously,

because there would be a jury associated with it. But you can look at the man's volume of work. I think that would be considered a deadly threat against the officer. For sure. And when an officer encounters that, you know, They don't have to just take that. They are allowed to respond. So I'm glad it didn't go that way.

I'm glad he was taken into custody. Yeah, got de-escalated slightly. Yeah. I love that he asked, are you going to tase me, bro? Yeah. Yes, I am. Yes, absolutely. I'm not going to fight you, that's for sure.

100% going to shoot you right in the dick with his taser. What else you got? Wow. All right. And that did happen on Father's Day. That's a rough look. Yeah. Does he have kids?

I don't know anything about it. I don't know, actually. I don't know anything about his personal life. I try to focus on his guillotine life, which, like I said, I deeply respect. Yes, two children, a daughter and a son. Okay. I mean, I'm not even going to dive into what might be going on his personal life or what he was doing. Right, yeah.

Hanging out with his friends that day, I get it. Maybe they were on a guy's trip. Maybe the girls were on a girl's trip. I don't know. I'm going to completely stay out of that one. Man, I hope he learns from this. Yeah. I don't know.

He seems like a good dude. like just in general. So I feel like, I feel like you will. Yeah. But I also have, I don't know him at all. We'll be glass half full today.

Yeah, we'll be glass half full. We're going to feel like he's going to come out of this better, which will be, that'll be good. For sure. Yeah.

What does you get? Okay. A U.S. service member arrested at Capitol after calling for Trump's impeachment. You see this? No. Is this recent?

Yeah, this was, I think, just yesterday. Oh, boy. On the steps of the Capitol building in uniform. And here's the deal. You still have the First Amendment when you are a military service member, but you are restricted in certain areas of that. One of them is wearing your military uniform to any thing that could be considered a protest or an official event and things of that nature.

I would wager he knew that. 100%. I would wager knowing nothing about this and having been aware of, okay, let me read this for a second before I say that. U.S. Air Force Major was arrested on the steps of the U.S. Capitol Wednesday after delivering a speech calling for the impeachment and removal of president. What were the charges? U.S. Capitol Police, which confirmed the arrest, said members of the public may not demonstrate on the steps of the House unless they are accompanied by a member of Congress. Okay. So the arrest itself seems like it probably had nothing to do with him being in uniform. However, he is going to face some UCMJ likely issues from that.

Okay. And the point of that is, actually, hold on. He was escorted to the steps by a member of Congress who left the area. They gave him a lawful order to stop the demonstration. Okay, so it's where he was demonstrating. That is where the arrest actually originates from. Okay. He was arrested for 22-1-307, crowding, interrupting, or that's just the code.

Okay, cool. Keep going down. Okay, and here's the public dissent within active duty. Military ranks is rare, is rare as service members are required to follow orders in accordance with the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which criminalize contemptuous words against the president, Vice President of Congress, and other top officials under Article 88. And this is what I was talking about here.

Service members are also prohibited from wearing uniform while participating in political rallies. And so it seems as if he was arrested for the actual actions itself. He will face UCMJ issues for those two things mentioned in the paragraph. I am making an assumption. None of that was accidental. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, he probably wouldn't get as much eyes.

The congressman or senator who shuttled them there and then just, you know, just had to go make a quick call not to be seen with that, not accidentally. either. So choices have consequences. Go up, do you say major? Major, yeah, which is that high in the Air Force or do you know? Oh, okay. So a major is a gold oak leaf. So that's going to be equivalent to a lieutenant commander. So that's going to be an 04. That's probably two years in. Two years in you'll be in 01 to 02. Four years in you'll be 02 to 03. Call it 403. So that's eight. Somewhere probably between 10 to 12 years. Generally considered mid-career middle management rank in the U.S. Air Force. Yeah. They're may not be appreciated being called middle management, but if they're in a staff meeting with people who have stars on their uniform, they're getting coffee. There's a little coffee biotch. Of course, of course. Two sugars, sir, no problem.

That's just the way that it goes. I mean, there's captains, 05s in that room that are coffee bitches. They're not treated that way, but they are, in fact, getting coffee for the admirals or generals. Choices have consequences. This isn't accidental. If you want to do that, take agency and ownership over what happens after that to your military career and your choice to do that. And if you are willing to do that, I have no issue with people who want to do this. Know what you're getting into.

Don't pretend. Do not feign ignorance on this. There's no way you're a major and don't understand that. You took the time to put your uniform on. You took the time to plan this. You knew what your message was going to be. If you want to do that, accept the consequences that come from that. For sure.

Yeah. And yeah. And I feel like he's here. probably did know that and was like, yeah, I'm going to get arrested for this. I don't like absolutes. I don't like to say 100% or 0%, but I'd say there's close to a 100% certainty that he knew exactly what he was getting himself into. The point of it was to be scroll up. I would say the point of this, scroll to the top, was this picture. That is probably what that individual. And I will say the person who escorted him there and then disappeared was hoping

to achieve. Yeah. Yeah. And like, I think. you know regardless of your message whether this was like anti-Trump or anti-biden or whatever I do think it's real it's pretty gutsy to do this and I have some a certain amount of admiration or just I don't know somewhat brave I would say to do this and I have a certain amount of admiration for that but also admiration or respect I guess respect yeah I guess I've got to be careful with what I say. We all should be. Yeah.

Remember what military service means, though. You're supposed to be serving something above yourself. Not everybody in the military agrees with everything to include the political party that might be in power. Yeah. That's why it says in the UCMJ, you are restricted from these type of statements against those in power in office and also will be in your uniform. So military service comes with consequences, obligations, and yes, you surrender. aspects of the inalienable rights that citizens have, but you knowingly do that. So I don't know if it's bravery. I'll leave that to the viewer, the listener and their own beliefs, morals,

integrity, whatever it may be. I don't know if you should have respect for it. Like I said, I'm not saying I have respect for this. I'm saying take agency and ownership over the actions. If you want to do this and you realize it's going to probably auger in your military career, that is your choice. And as long as you take agency over that and accountability for your actions, I'm okay with them making that decision. Right. But decisions have consequences. Yeah, for sure.

Agreed. Yeah. Okay. So many. I have so many. It's so hard to choose. Oh, what was the, this is kind of going off of this. What was the highest rank that you ever achieved?

O3E. O3. And what is that? Lieutenant. First, I was an Ensign. Butterbar. then I was a lieutenant of the most junior grade. It's literally LTJG, Lieutenant Junior Grade, one silver bar.

Nice. Then when you become an O3, they give you another silver bar to go with your original silver bar. So there's two, side by side. Yeah. And the E just means prior enlisted. So I was an O3 lieutenant prior enlisted. Gotcha. Yeah.

Okay. So were you ever the guy that got coffees brought to him? No. No, you were bringing people coffee. Why would I not go get my own coffee? Even if I was at general, I would just go get my own coffee. That's what, like I feel like, obviously I have no experience in the military world, but yeah, I would, I would just feel uncomfortable asking people to get me a coffee, personally.

I agree. I agree. I don't know. Maybe I used to it, though. I never breathe, breath, breathed, breathe. I never had a breath of that air in that rank. And I don't know what that life is really like. So I don't know if that's just.

Just how it is. Well, I mean, every two to maybe three years, you'll rotate from position to position at the lower ranks, at least. I assume it's the same at the higher. So you would roll in and there's probably a preexisting staff and it might just be what they do. And maybe you get accustomed to, I don't know. Yeah. I don't know either. What I mean, again, having never lived a second in that stratosphere of the military, I feel like I would just go get my own coffee though.

Yeah. You know? Seems easier too. I just also, I don't, I don't, I wouldn't want somebody to bring it to me. No, I wouldn't either. Because sometimes people stir coffee with their penis. You know, I know a good story that I will tell you not on the podcast. That's not fair.

That pertains to that. That isn't fair. Well, there are stories. Let's start with when it happened. Well, I wasn't personally involved in this. It's, it's, it's a lot of say. Allegedly. But I think this happened a couple years ago.

Where? In Montana. Okay. Yeah. Was it at a coffee shop that I own? No. Well, I'll just get that out of the way. No, your black rifle was not involved in this story at all.

It is something to consider. I could spend the next 20 minutes talking about the most disgusting, fucked up things that Junior and listed people have done to either utensils, toothbrushes, coffee cups, or food itself to senior members of the military that were complete and utter assholes to them. Use with caution. That's what this story boils down to is don't be a dick to the people preparing your food. And if you are going to be a dick to the people preparing your food, you might be eating some dick. Have you seen the Yelp episode of South Park?

No. Well, just go watch it. It's pretty funny. It pertains to this. Yeah. Okay. What else you got, Mike? Okay.

So, Pastor beats up a man. Oh, I did see this one. Yeah. Family from across the street. He said, Tony, I'm going to rape your wife of your grandchildren. And he said, the next time you go out of town, I'm going to kill them. And what the F are you going to do about it? One day after.

Sounds like beat the shit out of you. I think he found out what he's going to do about it. Is there any footage of the fight I'd like to? Let's talk. Let's see if he opened. I believe so. I think before, just before this. I saw a little bit of it eventually when they were on the ground.

I would like to know what takedown he used. Let's go ahead and see what the pastor's pack in here for technique. All right. Let's go. I think just right here. This new video shows the man who deputies identified. Hit pause for a second. Yep.

Of course this guy is filming himself. Of course. Got to get that clout. He probably thinks that he is safe. Mm-hmm. Because the First Amendment. Do you know what the First Amendment, to my understanding, doesn't cover. Threatening to kill people.

Yeah. Or, you know, again, not a constitutional expert here, but my understanding is the First Amendment protects you against the government coming after you. Let's watch this. I'm just curious how it got to the ground. Oh, go back. Go back. Let's talk about pre-violence indicators. Do you notice he's removing his footwear?

You notice how he also started running towards the pastor and brought his arm back? Not a lot of things happened after that. Yeah. And so that in and of itself, I wonder, let's see if he throws a punch. Because if he throws a punch and the pastor responds to that, now we're into the self-defense realm. Yes. yelling what sounds like I'll break your neck. Yeah, he threw a punch for sure.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He'd been feuding with for years. They cut it off, but. Can you find the footage anywhere else?

I want to just, let's do a, a Jerry MMA fight breakdown. I just want to see, did he go with a double leg? Did he get body lock dragged to the ground? Right. I saw a portion, but where he, I think, was mounted on top of the guy gouging his eyes. Oh. Oh, yeah. Okay, here we go. All right. Let's see. We may have to watch an ad.

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Oh, yeah. So we're in self-defense. Okay. So hit pause. Oh, this isn't you too. Michael, hit pause, God damn it. Hold on, I'm trying. I'm trying. It's not YouTube. Okay, go back to right before they link up.

Keep going back. Keep going back. Keep going back. Hit pause. This was what I am going to describe as the equivalent of two white belts starting a comp team round, where one has their handout and they're at full arm extension and they're spinning in circles. Now, these two for the audio only, they are throwing punches at each other, but this looks

like a hockey fight. I'm going to go out on a limb and say none of these guys train, and that's okay. Yeah. But I will say this, if either of these guys trained or if the pastor trained, this probably would have been much easier for him to accomplish. Yes. All right. Let's hit place. Let's watch this.

Yep. All right. White belt start to the match. Yep. Just grabbing the head. Yep. Throwing. Oh, he's throwing the right in the face.

Nice. Headlock. Nice. Yep. Rotated, took him down. Mount. Yep. Yes.

Oh, he's doing the Johan escape. He's trying to roll to his belly. Pastor is delivering the people's elbow just threw the cell phone into the street. Yep. Man, this is amazing, actually. I haven't seen the full video. Back mount. Oh. Pause. I'm going to tell you right now, I respect the hell out of the top of the hair grip. Yeah. For those of you listening, this pastor reached down with his left hand and grabbed the essentially the, the cramps. of the guy's hair pulled it back and then again began punching him.

I almost feel like he was trying to twist his head off for a second. Yeah, it looked like he grabbed the chin. Dominating this dude. Oh, 100%. Hooks in. Guy on the bottom. We'll just say allegedly is Johann. Yes.

He used the Johann escape, which is rolled to his belly, arms up in front of his head. Very effective. Yeah, let's just see how the rest of this goes. Getting his ass whipped. Yeah. It's so amazing. His legs are kicking. Now he's screaming for help.

After he started the fight, mind you. Oh, yes. And for those of you listening, he stood up and walked away, changed his mind and delivered a people's foot. What are your thoughts, Michael? Amazing. Amazing. I mean, the takedown could use some work. But honestly, the top game once he was on the ground.

He maneuvered well and just kind of drug him down, straight to mount. What the guy do? Rolled over onto his belly. Not a good defensive position. No. I don't recommend. But this was amazing. Is the issue that he's a pastor so people think pastors can't be violent?

I guess. And maybe that's why it like garnered much more news than I think it normally would have. But. Is there something in religion that says you can't be violent if somebody's making a threat against your family saying they're going to kill and rape all your family members? I mean, I don't, maybe in like this super peaceful religions, but I don't know about. Here's the question. If you had to choose between two pastors, one that when presented with this threat took this action or one when presented with this threat did nothing, which one would you rather go to a sermon

with? Oh, the guy that beat the shit out of the guy. I think so too. Yeah. Be much more interesting, I think. I think that he is probably clean in every aspect of self-defense as well. I think so. The other guy threw the punch at him first.

They locked up. He didn't. I mean, I'm not seeing. incredible bodily injury. He didn't attempt to kill the person. I'm going to try that holding technique on Johan with the hair, actually. I don't think that's legal in jujitsu. Well, amazing though. Full neck crank. Yeah. That was really good. I really enjoyed that. Man. I don't know if job title should matter. You have the inherent right to self-defense. if somebody is making that threat to your loved ones and family.

And again, from my understanding, he met every criteria for self-defense. It might be, I guess, a little bit of an argument because he approached the person coming from a crossroad. I don't know. I'll let legal scholars determine that. Man. Again, words have consequences. Yes. You do have the freedom of speech.

But you don't have this absolution of consequences that can come from the things. that you say. So. Yeah, especially if it's something like what the guy said, like I'm going to kill your wife, all this stuff. I'm not a religious guy, but all I have to say to the pastor is amen. Amen. Amen, brother.

Yep. And I like he just got up and was going to walk away too. Yeah. He's like, okay, we're done here. Yeah. Well, the guy on the bottom definitely was done. Oh, yeah. I enjoyed the phone throw.

There's many aspects of this in our fight breakdown that I really enjoyed in this video. Thank you for bringing it up, Michael. You're welcome. Yeah, that was very enlightening. Oh, speaking of... Hold on. Before you go on, can you imagine the difference if one of these dudes was, say, a blue or purple boat?

Oh, it would just... It wouldn't even be a fight. Yeah. Yeah, it'd be crazy. Yeah. Mm-hmm. So speaking of kind of getting what's coming to you. So this guy's a streamer.

Like an... Okay. Do you know what an IRL streamer is? In real life? Yeah. I don't know what that means, though. I just know what IRL stands. for in real life. Yeah, they just go around public places, videoing themselves. Oftentimes,

what are they doing in those public places? Trying to stir up some drama or whatever, just to get some more views, you know? So when you say IRL, does that mean that somebody is like a vlogger and is trying to share their life? Or do these people, are they antagonistic in nature? No, well, a lot of the times they're into, it doesn't, it's not every IRL streamer, but a lot of times they are antagonistic because they're trying to drum up something. And so this guy we're looking at as a streamer? So he's, yeah, he's a streamer and he was at the great. Yeah. I feel like he was, he gave that name to himself. I think he did. Well, I guess you're going to read the towel. He got

punched by UFC fighter after, uh, after getting slapped. Who got, hold on. He, so he got slapped earlier because he was being a shit head. The streamer got slapped earlier. Okay. Like a while ago, I think a couple days ago. Okay. And then he's did this. Okay. pretty than you. That's cool. I'll get fucked though. I'll get fucked, clearly. But, you know, and he had a bunch of shit out of me. I felt like I was weak. Straight up.

What? I said, straight up. Are you think I got slapped on video? I did, but I'll slap the shit out. You know. I'm going to show you the inside of the... Smart woman. Go ahead.

I'll do that. Seriously? I'll do that. I still feel that now the week as fuck. I mean, who am I to judge how people want to make their life and live their life? There's not enough money in the world. You could pile up this table full of gold de blooms from a sunken treasure ship, which I feel like makes it more valuable because it's historic gold.

Yes. Even though I'm not sure that's the case, it's probably based off of weight. It probably is. Not in a million years would I go down that path? And then again, I'm not going to judge people's desire to fame or recognizability or money. But I wonder in 10 years, 20 years, assuming this guy makes it this far, are you going to be proud of what you look back on? Is this if you have a family? Is this the person?

And I'm not saying that I am somebody if, A, I didn't make my life on the internet doing this type of stuff. So there's not a volume of information of me falling short as a personal. happy to share those experiences and I try to be as honest as I can about them. And I'm not saying I'm perfect by any stretch, but why, I don't understand it. I don't understand the rise of this type of stuff. I don't understand what they're trying to do. So let's say the guy hadn't hit him. Is the move this guy keeps going to elicit that response and then you blame it on the person?

I'm not understanding. And is it for virality as well? Then they clip this and then that they try to make money off. That I, yeah, I think so. I mean, it's just a crazy, I just don't understand why you would do this in the first place. And then try to act tough after the fact when you obviously just got the shit smacked out of you. But what does it look like 10 years down the road or 5 or 15? I mean, is this the guy's career for his entire life?

Do you lateral witness to something else? Do you build businesses on top? I just don't understand it. I don't think there's a whole lot of self-reflection or looking into the future going on here. Well, that's not uncommon for people who are. late teens, early 20s. Yeah. For men, early 40s.

Yeah, let's be honest. It still doesn't come for me, so. My optic on time now, I mean, I look back, oh my God, I am mortified by some of my behavior when I was younger. And I'm not, nothing like this ever. And again, but this, this world of being able to even do this, not a, not even a fathomable thought. Yeah.

But that doesn't mean I was always the best version of myself. It doesn't mean I wasn't an asshole at time or was trying to provoke people. by saying stupid shit. God, it's stomach turning. But that's a good thing. I am glad that I feel that way about it because at least I can remember what that felt like and remind myself, hey, maybe you don't want to be that guy.

Maybe you can learn from that and see the impact now that you didn't realize it was having back then and become a better version of yourself. That's what I would like to believe. Again, not perfect, still going to make mistakes in my life. I just don't, I don't understand it. Yeah, I don't either. Like I do like I genuinely, I genuinely think it's for fame, money.

And that's it. Like he just wants to have eyes on him. Again, I'm not going to judge how people want to make their living. I have more questions than answers about why somebody would go down this particular path. I mean, I think the easy answer would be fame and money, even though I have no idea the metrics associated with that or the amount capable. Not for me, man. No. Not for me.

Nor me. People will confuse the online world, which is largely consequence free, with the real world, which sometimes you will encounter an ex-UFC fighter who doesn't tolerate that type of language to his face well. And then you meet the people's elbow. Yeah. Then the legal system can sort that out. But man, maybe it'll be an asshole.

Yeah. I mean, so much of this of the problems that we've seen today. it could be solved by not being a dick. It's a good recipe for life. Yeah. And one that I have failed at many times. I have. I'm not going to sit here and pretend even remotely

that I haven't fallen short so many times of the person I want to be. Never anything like this, though. No. No. I mean, this is like just fallen intentionally being a dick. Correct. Yeah.

What else you got? One more. I've got to get at her 1250. Okay. Got a manager's meeting at the coffee shop. Oh, fun. Okay. Take us off.

into the 250th weekend, Michael. This comes out, I was going to say tomorrow, but for the people listening to it today. Today is Thursday. This seems freedom-esque, although it is from Ukraine, but they are currently fighting for, I guess you could say, their freedom right now. Back to basics.

Old Tech, YAC 52 trainer, ACEs as Russian. What? Hit play on this. Back to those pictures now. This incredible footage is from the crew of the 11th separate army aviation brigade. You stop this right now. What's that? I saw this before.

I assumed this was AI. No, this is real. This is a man with a carbine rifle in the back of an airplane shooting down drones. And back of like a World War II airplane. Maybe not World War II. Let's watch some more. And this is a Russian long-range one-way attack drone being gunned down with a firearm. Of course, whatever the Ukrainians reinvent for this war is copied by Russian.

Russia and they too have enlisted the act 52 to wage war against drones. Isn't this crazy? How dare you hit pause? I'm learning things. Oh. So you've made sure to target any of the Russian aircraft it sees. Eradicating another threat to its own drones fighting to defend Ukraine for the end. It makes sense. Look at this.

That is such a cool. Aircraft were built between 1916. between 1970s, video, in Romania, exactly how many are flying for both sides of this war now

is unclear. Dude, hit pause. I love everything about this. I don't like the fact that they're fighting a war, but I love everything about they are providing a real world solution

to an everyday problem in Ukraine, in Russia. In Ukraine. Yes, yes. I mean, I'm stoked for both of these guys. One's getting to practice formation flying. The other one's getting to practice.

I mean, I don't think that's a shotgun. I think that's a shotgun. I think that's a carbine. So that's a rifle cartridge. Which is even more impressive. Getting some. It might be, I mean, I'm not really seeing a profile. I can't really see the, uh, yeah, the width of the magazine associated with it.

But my man is out there. Gunning down drones. Just living in the moment. Yes. Excellent job, Michael. I appreciate. Let's watch some more of this video. Hold on.

Go back just a little bit. Yeah. It spit out a cartridge. Just hit play. Just let it play up. That's a rifle cartridge. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Hit play. What? Fists pumping. Yeah. As he should. Oh, there's one more. Isn't that dope?

I mean, other than the reasons for why they're doing it, yes. Right. Yeah. I don't love the war aspect, but just for like the, just the coolness aspect is pretty high. This conversation, again, another pre-recorded episode I have with Jack Osborne, we were having this conversation yesterday when we were recording with him. The more high-tech things are going, lower-tech solutions. I mean, there's not an equal amount of video, but there's a bunch of high-tech drone-type

warfare stuff from Ukraine. There's an immense amount of people fighting in trenches, like World War I and World War II. It's, I mean, I don't know if the answer is you go tech versus tech, AI versus AI, or you go back. to the Stone Age in the way you win in a tech-heavy confrontation is by going as low-tech as possible. I don't know. Yeah. But the fact that both of those, the front-leading edge of technological warfare and also trench warfare essentially from World War I and two is going on in the same conflict. It's pretty crazy. It's pretty wild. I don't know where it leads. I don't know either, but I feel like I also think this is like maybe with the exception of some footage from Afghanistan

and Iran or Iran Iraq. This is like the most videoed and recorded of combat like ever. And that will be the case moving forward just based off of a lot of things are basically sensor or camera driven or optically guided. So yeah, that's going to be the case. There's just so much availability and ease of recording.

Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty crazy. Oh, that's a good video. Would you want to be the guy in front or back? Oh, that's so tough. Because I feel like it would be fun to fly the plane. Alternate every sortie.

Yeah, that's a good idea. Yeah. Or honestly, who's the better pilot and who's the better shot? Yeah. Realistically, yes. Yeah. But for fun purpose, could rotate.

I wonder if that's up there just flying around and they visually identify drones or if this is something they're on a ready alert. Right. Because I don't know if the drones, I don't know what kind of radar capabilities they have or what warning they have its incoming. Yeah, I wonder if it's just constant.

or they launch when a threat launches. Yeah, I don't know. That's a good question. All right, Michael. That's all I have for today.