Cleared Hot - Powered By BRCC - Episode 252 - Greg Anderson

Episode Date: September 26, 2022

Greg Anderson was a Law Enforcement Officer for the Port of Seattle Police Department. He posted an 8-minute video to his personal Instagram page in which he called for his fellow Law Enforcement Officers to consider the impacts of their actions on public trust, and the legality/constitutionality of enforcing strict pandemic/quarantine measures, an act for which he was eventually terminated.  Greg is a veteran of the United States Army where he served as part of the 75th Ranger Regiment. Post military he worked overseas as a contractor for Triple Canopy before joining the US Marshal Service, then as a Police Officer in Los Angeles, and eventually as an officer at the Port of Seattle in Washington. He is a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Black Belt and the owner of Electric Jiu Jitsu North in Lake Stevens.

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Repeat guest, Mr. Greg Anderson. I first met Greg, or was, well, I first met him the first time he came on the podcast, but I was introduced to him. He made a very viral video in the, probably safe to say the peak of the, maybe not even the peak. It was earlier on in the pandemic. But he was a port authority or port of state. Seattle police officer. And he made a video in his vehicle. And the video speaks for itself. You can just go to Google or YouTube and put in, you know, Greg Anderson police officer. And it's going to come up.

You'll see him. He's sitting there with a baseball hat on backwards in his vehicle. And the content of that vehicle had him placed on administrative leave. It was brought to my attention sent by many people. He ended up coming out and he's become an awesome friend. So couldn't be happy to have him back on. He does. He's no longer a police officer. Spoiler alert, if you haven't listened to, to any of our other episodes. But, you know, he has a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu gym himself in Washington. He, there's a CrossFit gym associated with that as well. He's doing firearms and Jiu-Jitsu training. He's offering courses. I know that Mike Glover is either out there this upcoming weekend or is out there right now as I'm talking about this because it's Sunday.

I'm getting ready to be the Monday that this launches. So he's got that going on to him. He's got a podcast, Endless Endeavour, Fantastic Podcast. what else does he have going on ton of shit Brazilian juts to black melt under the uh checkmat lineage and you know instead of me talking about Greg how about we let Greg talk about himself so I'm gonna shut the fuck up and get into episode number 252 with Greg Anderson enjoy are we're gonna be recording uncle see this is why I don't give him a microphone because he would like sass me back interject shit that you don't want don't need full full disclosure I just haven't had time to drill the hole in the desk and then he'll get one there we go whether or not I turn it on though is a different story it might be just like a comfort microphone and then he can start looking stuff up for you yeah because I have been known to talk about things I don't know about it all isn't that what we do on podcast and then have people reach out and go hey uh

yeah the thing you were saying is completely the opposite I'm like okay yeah that's why I generally will preface with I don't I'm not an expert at fill in the blank dude when you fucking talk for hours on end, there's going to be bits and pieces that everything might not be exactly as it is. And people like jump at every opportunity to jump into your inbox and be like, actually, you said this and it's that. Like, yeah. Can you imagine wasting your time to go tell someone that they misspoke? Like, no. And I used to, if I'm being honest, I used to engage a lot more in the comment section. And I would ignore all the positive and I would see the negative one. And that shit would eat away at me.

Isn't that weird? So I would, I would think for fucking days and hours about a sassy response that they didn't even probably fucking take the time to read because they're like hitting it off and then half of them are ghost account anyways. I swear to God people create accounts to post. And then they probably forget how to log back in anyway so they can't even see your response. No profile picture and zero followers. And they're talking shit to everybody.

To everybody. But then I realized how fucked up does their life have to be? for them to be doing that. Do you know anybody who is fulfilled, successful doing what they want to do that waste any fucking time doing that? No, and the more I go down the path of creating my dream,

the more I realize I need to get as far away from that shit as possible. Let's not take this spiritual, all right? Like we're just going to fucking die. I'm becoming spiritual. You're going to hear about it. Like it or not. You're post today because I drink water,

I'm connected to the earth. Bro, it's like, I'm telling you. I'm telling you, bro. You get up every morning, I drink 32 ounces of water, and I go walk outside. I feel like that's a lot of water. It doesn't sound like a big deal. It doesn't sound like something hard to do. And for people that don't know what we're fucking talking about, I just completed 75 hard.

Which I actually don't know much about it. I was planning on just asking you what it was. And if you've heard of a program called 76 hard sometimes. Occasionally difficult. 76 medium. I mean, we're ideating right here. We can have a business. So yeah, the whole deal is 75 hard.

It's not a fitness program. It's a program to instill habits, good habits in your life. And, you know, a lot of programs are 30 days or a month or whatever, you know. But doing it for two and a half months, it really starts to become normal. And for two and a half months, I woke up early at sunrise, went outside and walked or ran and drank water and just got my body moving. And, bro, I mean, I've been a fucking athlete. life. It's getting up and working out is not a like an abstract idea. It's a drained. Just making it

a habit though, because it's a habit when we're in the military. But dude, it's easy to get lazy when you're when you're your own boss. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's a real thing. Probably the easiest thing to do actually. And so like, uh, and it wasn't even my idea. It was my boy Levi who is, he's 18 years old and he's not my biological son, but I've had like a massive influence in his life and was a father figure. And he goes, hey, I want to do 75. hard. Do you want to do it with me? And I was just sitting in the kitchen. I'm like, yeah, okay. I can't say no to that. You know, a young kid that wants to try something to instill discipline. So I was like, fuck it. Let's do it. And bro, it's the best thing that I've done, man.

So does the program itself lay out the boundaries for you? Because I know you made some dietary restrictions. Is that part of it? Or did you choose to do that? There's an exercise regimen. Yeah. It's actually, it's a pretty simple concept. Do you know who, do you know who Andy Fressella is? No, I was going to ask you that too, because I had seen you posting that. It was his program. And I have heard of him. I don't know who. Andy Ficella is the, he created First Form, which is a supplement company.

But they're a lot bigger in a supplement company. They're like a movement, a culture movement. And they're a company based out of St. Louis, Missouri. I've been down there. I've met him and his brother and all the people down there. Good fucking people. And he came up with this program because, you know, that company blew up. He became a multimillionaire.

And he was balling, but he got fat and lazy. And he's like, okay, I'm winning on some aspects of life. But I'm fucking failing on others. So how do I dial it in? And he came up with this idea and called it 75 hard. And it's basically here, I'll look it up. Actually, now I can't because I already completed it. So now my app doesn't work.

It's two workouts a day that are 45 minutes. Of your choice? Of your choice. One of them has to be outside. It's drinking a gallon of water a day. It's reading 10 pages a day. It's drinking no alcohol and following a diet that you set for yourself. with zero cheat meals.

And so that's it. The parameters are pretty wide open for you to kind of tailor it to what you need. But the reason is because he's like, hey, if a bodybuilder wants to do this and a marathoner wants to do this, I can't set workout routines. I can't set, I can't set caloric intake restrictions and shit like that. Like you set what needs to work for you, but then there's zero deviation once you set it. And so for me, dude, I'm a fucking, like, sometimes less is more. Like it's easier for me and I think that's common for a lot of guys like us like the concept it was simple

Implementation can be kind of difficult So instead of like counting calories or weighing my food or on Sunday night putting 40 Tupperwares together with meals. I was I can't deal with that I fail with that shit bro I said you know what I'm just gonna eat steak eggs and apples how'd you pick those just I mean I've been do you know who Sean Baker is he's the carnivore he did rogan He's the carnivore. He wrote the book, The Carnivore Diet. He's actually one of my jihitsu students.

And he's a savage. What belt is he? He's a white belt. He's new to jiu-jitsu. Do you fuck that dude, does? Bro, he was, of course I did. But he was a professional rugby player in New Zealand for a long time. Oh, that's going to be a problem.

And he's 6-4-260 with ass. That's a huge problem. Big problem. I don't care how much jihitsu you have. No, that's a fucking huge problem. Not only is he a fucking phenomenal ass. athlete, but after, I think he was in his 30s, he's like, rugby is not going to, there's no longevity in rugby. So what should I do next? Went to medical school and became an orthopedic

surgeon. And so, yeah, he's just one of those guys, right? Yeah. And he was a doctor for a long time. He's told me he's like, I've done hundreds of knee replacements. He went to Iraq and did a bunch of trauma. He worked in a surgical rotation, yeah, surgical rotation dealing with guys that are getting blown up and shit. So he's had a lot of experience in that field. So being an athlete and someone in medicine, that's like, I want to hear what he has to say about how to make the human body work. And he's like, dude, we're finding the more, the more we look into it and the more

studies we do, massive amounts of meat are showing to be the healthiest fucking diet. And I'm not going to sit here and give you all the details because I'm not qualified to do so. Yeah, because we're monkeys. Yeah, but he's like, dude, they're doing all of these studies and finding that it's like, Like, it's, when you go on 100% meat diet, it's alleviating all of these autoimmune diseases, all of these diseases that cause inflammation, diabetes, and it's crazy how much success they're having. And so I was like, you know what, I'm going to give this a try. And I tried it before.

And with zero carbs, training hard jih Tzu, I just always felt a little off. Yeah. So I was like, you know what? I'm going to do carnivore, but I'm going to add a little bit of fruit in just for carbohydrates. So I was eating like two or three apples a day on top of coffee. How'd you land on apples? Because I fucking love them. Even after 75 days.

Oh, bro. I just had an apple before I came here. As long as it's a honey crisp, don't give me a fucking Granny Smith or some bullshit like that. There are some fucked up apples. There's plenty of fucked up apples. Which they can make apple sauce out of and I probably still consume that. And the newest fucked up apple is the cosmic crisp. That's the new one.

Have you heard of that? No. They're trying to make the honey crisp better and sometimes just don't fuck with a good thing. How do you fuck do you know so much about apples? Because I mean, actually. Well, actually, since you've been eating them straight. I went to an apple grafting seminar. And I grafted a bunch of...

Recently? No, this was like five years ago. And I grafted a bunch of my own apple trees and grew them from little saplings. And they're actually right next to my Jiu-Gitza Academy. And for five years, they grew and they were like, this was the first year they produced fruit. And then one of my black belts brought his dog over. and you know where this is going and he chewed him all to the ground

and I was like, cool. That dog's still alive. Yeah, I actually like that motherfucker but what kind of dog is it? It's like a, he got it at the pound so it's kind of a mutt, but it's like a pit mix. Yeah.

Because nobody wants pits that are at the pound. I have had some of the best interactions with pit bulls. Bro, it's a cool fucking dog for sure. I think it's more indicative of how they are treated. Yeah, probably much like human beings. Of course, no.

Yeah, pits get a bad, a bad rap for sure. but currently French Bulldog is at the top of my list. Oh, yeah? I don't have French Bulldogs, but I have friends that do, and they're pretty amazing. I went from Malinwas to Jack Russell's. So I'm a Jack Russell guy now. God, you're into some kinky shit. But anyway, 75 hard.

It's building the habit of doing those things for 75 days. Because, bro, reading is good for you, period. The most successful people in the world read tons of books. Everybody knows that. But for whatever reason, I would rather look at Instagram instead of reading books. It's almost like Instagram is designed to have that magnetizing pole. No, I know, right? And it's like, even though you know, okay, one rots my brain and one is going to build a path to success.

And you'll pick the run. Yeah, I'll pick up my phone and start scrolling on Instagram. If you put food in front of most humans to include myself and it's like healthy, far less healthy, but a little bit tastier, I'm veering to the right most of the time. Yeah. And so it's like. Rogan said it best. He, I think he, paraphrasing, and maybe he wasn't even Joe that said this. But our attention is the commodity now.

So the interface that we have with the devices, it shouldn't be shocking to anybody that they're addictive. Because they're fucking designed to be. Bro, do you know what Netflix, they stated this. They said, do you know what our biggest competitor is? What do you think? Who do you think? TikTok. Sleep.

Oh, those motherfuckers. Isn't that fucked up, dude? So it's like. Not actually, if you had to give me 100 guesses, I wouldn't have said sleep. And bro, that's the truth. I mean, you'll sit up in bed and be like, oh, man, this is good. I just want to see one more episode. And there's another, I've never done that.

Tell me more. Oh, really? There's another avenue of society that's killing us is poor sleep patterns, you know? And so getting my life dialed in, and I mean, my life wasn't in fucking shambles to start with. Yeah. But we can all tighten things up. And, dude, I burned through like five. or six books already.

I saw the post you made of the ones that you had read. And they're books that have actually taught me a lot of good shit, man. And so, like, I'm reading a book now called The Urban Monk. And it's just talking about how, like, we live in these concrete jungles and humanity is getting detached from the way that we've lived for thousands of years. And that's actually causing a lot of the fucking issues that we're having now and trying to bring yourself back to that and stay grounded. I'm going to send you a book.

Just because I know you and your personality and you will go into, fucking orbit. It's called the real Anthony Fauci. You will be texting me like, you motherfucker! Let's just say the book was written, you can tell. As with a lot of books in that sphere, you're like, okay, this person is viewing it from this angle and is talking about this angle. Having, you know, following you on social media and being aware of your stance on things, I'm going to send you this book just so your head explodes. Yeah, thank you.

We can go down those rabbit holes too. It might not enrich your life. It might, you might be in fucking, I might turn you into a goddamn comment section. Fucking second battalion, you know? Yeah. Well, I wanted to say congratulations on getting married. Yeah, man. How's that, man?

Well, I mean, it was like nine days in. So you don't really know yet. I actually kind of did. You know, it's, so second time around. And the biggest thing is, is I have a better understanding of who I am. Yeah. I'm as in my fucking early 20s. A fucking kid.

I legitimately look back at pictures. And I'm like, what, not what were you thinking like in a horrible way, but also what were you thinking in a horrible way? And I'm saying that about myself, not my ex. It's just, I didn't know who the fuck I was. Yeah. I was at a super transformational time in my life. It was right after 9-11.

Or actually, no, take that back. We got married February, 2001. Okay. So married pre-9-11 deployment, come back, 9-11, screened immediately for the East Coast command, like the fucking rubber hitting the road, you know, like dropping a car off the back of a semi-500 miles an hour. Kids in the mix, deployment cycle in the mix. And fuck, man. I mean, I turned 45 in October.

I'm just, I'm a different person. I have a better understanding myself, what I want, who I want to be. and I found somebody who is just fucking amazing. Yeah. You know, it's, I can already, it's just completely different. And it's been that way, you know, since the first time we went out and got coffee. Yeah. Well, as soon as I saw the pictures on Instagram, I grounded my seven-year-old daughter because one of her chores is getting the mail.

So I'm assuming she lost the wedding invitation. No, we can't invite conspiracy questions. So, dude, my first wedding occurred at a Justice of the Peace, and it was super tiny because I was getting ready to go on deployment. And for those of you in the military, your pay changes when you get married. I'm not saying you should get married for that reason, even though there is a fleet of people that do. It incentivizes. It does. Your BAH goes up, which is what a basic house, a BHA, basic housing allowance.

So it's like right before deployment, we're like, we knew we were going to get married. like, well, what the fuck are we waiting for? And then she gets benefits. She gets benefits. We get paid more money. I'm on deployment. It's like fucking awesome. There were guys that married girls just for an arrangement.

You get benefits and I get more pay. I mean, not in our community because we're defined by our integrity. You guys are a lot more responsible. A seal would never do something like that. Of course not. No, no, we would never do anything like that. But Leah's family, let's just say she is an East Coast Italian family. So there's already 200 people.

Holy shit. Yeah. They were all awesome. By the way, let's just say it was the complete opposite experience of the first time, which was a complete different planning experience. So I was just like, okay, let's do this. And then we got the fuck out of there and went to the origin camp, which was an amazing follow-up.

We basically had a jujitsu honeymoon. Uh-huh. So she got to go teach. And then, yeah, you're just fucking fighting for your life on these goddamn masks. People are like, oh, yeah, today's my day. It's Andy Stumpf. He's the cleared hot guy. Some of them would say that.

Oh, really? Oh, they would come up to me wearing my rash guard and be like, hey, man, do you want to roll? I'm like, fuck, here we go. Slap bump and you just feel that first grip. You're like, okay. Yeah. Shall we begin? To the death.

I mean, why not? Or after five minutes. Man, I tell my jihitsu students all the time that jiu-jitsu will enrich your life off the mats more than it's going to enrich your life on the mats. And like, look at the community people you built and you met a woman that you're going to share the rest your life with. Yeah. By partaking in jiu-jitsu.

And she is like literally. Literally right now, probably choking a bitch down at Masters Wars. Her first match is in like an hour. Oh, really? Yeah, from a woman from Finland, which I'm not actually sure is actually a country. Yeah. But she's going to come a long way to get fucking choked. That's awesome, dude.

She's won it, I think, twice at Masters at Black Belt, and then she won adult. I think it was Blue Belt and meddled it purple as well. Okay. Yeah. Like you said, when you roll with her first time. Such a good story. Yeah. For those of you that don't remember last time I was on Cleared Hot, I rolled with Leah,

and she had a breast cancer awareness. There's October. So it's like purple or pink belt. Pink belt. But I didn't know that that was a thing. So I was like, oh, that's like a super old faded purple belt. And when we rolled, I was like, fuck, dude. She's good, man.

This is the nastiest purple belt I've ever rolled with. Why the fuck haven't you been promoted? And remember that, like, I thought that the whole training session. Oh, that's right. Yeah, I didn't figure that out until we were sitting right here. And I was like, man, she's good. That's a nasty, that's a nasty purple belt. And you go, bro, she's a black bow world champion.

Yeah, I go, feel better about it. Yeah, exactly. I actually, I mean, I enjoy rolling, but what I think what I enjoy the most about Jiu-Jitsu is that it's not a solvable problem. Yeah. I think the more exposure you have to it, it just presents different problems, which presents more and more and more. And out at that origin camp, I mean, I was telling you today,

you see these black belts I'm like, I don't know how many stripes are on that I'm not even going to try to count because they're so close together and it'd be awkward for me to stare at it like that but to see them so fascinated by it still and enjoying it still and then they'll roll like uh, uh,

uh, uh, De Deco and Raphael Formiga. Um, and I believe Raphael is a Deco black belt. He was, he was, people, individually, that he was the best guy on the mat for sure experience level wise and to watch them go at it

a student because they did do one role like one of the last days did echo kind of sled over and i swear he said like kombach or something which is one of the few Brazilian words that i knew fight yeah to for me again for me was like okay and like tied his belt up and they went at it super controlled, smiling, sweeping each other, exchanging positions, and to see them still enjoying it that much at that high of a level and to be able to do that, like, it's not possible to master, which is what I think I love about it the most. Yeah. Because if you could master it, much like the man who was picking up the mats at the gym we were at today saying, my brother is a Taekwondo Black Belt. Ticrundel Black Belt. I was just being nice. I was not.

I do. It's funny because I didn't know if he was a student or what, right? I don't think I'd ever seen that person in my life before, which is why I felt comfortable. I didn't say too much, but. No, he walks in and he goes, hey, how long have you been doing martial arts? I'm like 19 years. He goes, my brother's a third-degree blackout in Taekwondo. I was like, oh, cool. He needs to be fighting MMA.

I was just like, okay. And then you go, he's going to need a lot more than that if he wants to get in the cage or something. I was like, oh, Andy always shoots people straight. Yeah, and then he started listing off the other stuff that he did. He does Kempo, he does Krav, my God. And it's like, great, congratulations. Yeah. We're very happy for him.

I mean, if you can get a black belt into martial art in like two years, I think. Yeah, what's it worth? I don't know. Yeah, it's not worth anything. That's the truth. I mean, I'm sure you can get some good, I mean, I'm sure there's a karate, like, we're literally over a karate studio right now. And there's a bunch of kids in there. I'm sure there's discipline and lesson learn lessons that you can.

can learn from that. But I don't know how well it's going to serve you in a very violent physical altercation. And that's the thing, man. Like the cat's out of the bag. We know what arts win fights. The UFC prove that, right? And so like... Well, not with Krov because it's so dangerous.

Yeah, it's so dangerous that if I did it in real life, you die. Okay. I have some great friends who do Krov, and honestly, I don't know that much about it. but I have to laugh at that reasoning a little bit. Bro, if you can't spar at 100%, then you can't hone your skill set. Yeah. So that argument right there is invalid, you know?

And it's like, we know boxing, kickboxing, wrestling, jujitsu, and judo has a lot of good application too. But it's very clear what works and then what is more of an art for kids and discipline. Like you said, if kids are doing that stuff, They're moving their bodies. They're learning. They're building community. I'm not talking shit on that stuff.

But if you want to build a skill set to be able to protect yourself and protect your family, everybody already knows what works and what doesn't work, you know? And here's the thing, man. If there were some specialists, some grandmaster of Dim Mock with the death touch or whatever, he'd be in the octagon, taking dudes like Israel Adasania out. Cash and Chen making millions and millions of dollars, right? cash and checks. And so, yeah.

Right there. Bullshit. The more I do jiu-tzeu, the more I develop a love for guns. Because... I don't know, man. Like, you're fucking jih Tjitsu. And this isn't fucking like trying to stroke your ego. But your jih Tzsche's gotten really fucking good, really fast, man.

I just go train every day. I mean, your belt's a reflection of that, too. I mean, how long have you been training now? Five years? Four years. Four years. Brown belt. And not just...

I told you how I got it, though. my coach was walking around and he left a belt on the counter and I was like that shit's mine because I forgot my belt and he just didn't stop me well bro I can tell you like there's different levels of black belts

like I've heard that the black belt range is greater than every other belt combined for sure it's vast there's dudes that I fucking beat the shit out of and I'm like you feel like a new blue belt what is going on and then there's other black belts that do that to me yeah Bouchetia

when that guy puts his hands on me it's like I've never trained an hour of jiu-jitsu in my entire life that's why I like commenting on the posts that you put up with him I'm like right just stand up why would you let him do that? Why are you letting him do that to you? And then there's everything in between right and so like I mean that's what's so fascinating about jiuzitsu

is that it's an endless ocean but I also know how good my jihitsu is and I'm proud of my jihitsu and I know that like I stack up well against a lot of guys, I couldn't pass your fucking guard today. I didn't want you to try to arm arm me again. Dude, and I was just like, and it was, like you said, it's problem solving, right? And you were able, and I consider myself a good passer, you were able to shut my whole fucking

passing game down with one grip. Well, I also figured out you were trying to reach across and get my other leg. I'm like, I'll just move it over here a little bit. Bro, yeah. And it was what, seven minutes of that over the course of a round and a half or whatever? And then also like in a live role And it's not like you're upset But once you're trying something and it's not working

Fuck And now you know that problem solving comes into play right So I'm gonna try and be a little more dynamic So I tried to move a little faster And then you match my speed perfectly And that's what I told you I said bro like When I'm playing pressure and heavy you can move slow and be heavy too And as soon as I tried to pick up the speed

You match that speed. I'm just trying to haunt your dream Yeah well I told you before we rolled I laid in bed last night and visualized how to finish the arm bar on you. Because last time we ruled, you had an interesting arm bar defense. And I didn't even get to the fucking position to try it. That's the best defense. Yeah, exactly.

It's like, why would I let somebody put me in that position? The Hickson answer, which I am by no means saying that I'm not comparing myself to Hickson, but I love that answer. Shit, if Henry told me it, I guess that would be first. Third hand at this point. but he'll be asked about these positions and his response is why would I be there? Yeah. But then the other side of that coin is somebody else gets a vote and how this plays out.

For sure. You know? But what I do like about it too is that we can go hard and at the end of it, there's no ballistic injury. There's nobody hurt. I agree with you. If you can't spar at a high level because it's so dangerous, how do you sharpen that blade? Yeah, because you have to learn those movements. and the connection and the angles and the,

I talk to my students about all the time, the majority of Jiu-Jitsu is invisible because it's that, it's that weight distribution that you can feel, but you can't see. You're not gonna notice the difference on the video. And all of those details get honed during live roles. I can't teach weight distribution. You have to learn that through hours and hours and hours

of people doing knee on belly. Or you're trying to sweep a guy and he's basing too hard. Okay, how do I do you? defeat this base. All those little nuances take a long time to put together. And it's like, you can't do that sparring at 20% or whatever. And so, but I mean, everybody thinks their shit's the best, right? So we're just a cult as well. Oh, it meets every criteria of a cult. Yeah. But so does CrossFit, the other part of your gym. So you're smashing two cults together. That's perfect. You want to know the interesting thing about that is, so my gym's outside of Seattle.

and we're CrossFit and Jiu-Jitsu. And I thought there'd be a lot of crossover. There's not? There's hardly any. Why do you think that is? It's just a different mentality. You know, there's a, there's probably three or four people that do both. And then each side of the gym has 200 members.

So it's. That's crazy because the gas tank they would bring to the mats is not awesome. Well, dude, the thing about CrossFit is like, a super athlete, but jiu-jitsu is not only about being a good athlete, it's about energy management. Yeah. And if you can't manage your energy, I mean, how long can a human being sprint for? It is what it is, you know, it is what it is. If you try and turn the dial up to 10, you have less than a minute in the reserve.

And we'll have people come up from downstairs and try that. And it's like, okay, you're a super athlete, but for 60 seconds. For 60 seconds, and then you get mauled. And that's, uh, I deeply appreciate that, actually. bro, and that's jujitsu. Yeah. You know? It's like go hard when you need to, slow it down when you need to.

And if one thing that I do is I try and breathe through my nose when I'm rolling. If I feel I have to start taking, if I have to start gasping for air, that lets me know I'm not managing my energy too well. And if you're not managing your energy well, that's like fatigue makes cowards of us all. That's a learned skill, though. For sure. Oh, yeah, yeah. You've been on the mats for almost two decades.

Yeah, yeah. No, for sure. Yeah. I think everybody goes through that journey of. fifth gear maximum energy expenditure. This is the only grip that I will ever have in my life, so I hold it so hard that I shake. And then, yeah, that's a learned skill for sure.

Henry's the same way. He, fuck, it's like he's playing with you. He's at that, like you said, the variation in black belts. He's at the level where you're like, okay, so you can see the future, right? Like, what stocks should I invest in? He doesn't know the answer to that. But he's seen those movement patterns so many times, and he knows the two available options you have

and will funnel you to one and knows the three steps and it's just like, I'll wait for you at the end of this. Yeah, it's crazy, dude. It's fucking terrifying. But that's also what makes it so intriguing because it's like what other activity can you need so much physicality with, but you're also like literally problem solving

at the highest level, you know? I think that's why people get addicted to it. That and I don't think most people have physical experiences anymore. So I owned a CrossFit Gym and we opened it in 2000 and was it late 2006, call it 2007 to split the difference. And it was earlier on in the story arc and ascension of CrossFit being as popular as it become. And I was shocked by the number of people who just were not physically active at all in their life and they find that first visceral physical experience and it hooks them. I think jiu-jitsu is kind of the same way.

Yeah. People aren't as active as they used to be, I don't think. Well, dude, everybody's fucking pumping themselves full of medication for anxiety and depression. Everybody has all these ailments and they're overweight and it's like, dude, the solution's right in front of you. But it just takes a little work. And people, like we were talking about it walking up here, you put a roadblock in front of people and a lot of people are just, that's where they stop. Even if it's not real. Yeah.

Yeah. So I do Friday episodes where I answer Q&A and I still have to record the one for tomorrow, but... Full Auto Friday. A little full Friday. I was going to ask you if I can start a segment called semi-automatic Saturday. Semi-auto Saturday. I like it. Sass. Sass for you. You do whatever the fuck you want to do. My buddy, fuck Jack Carr, I started a podcast called Danger Close. I'm like, motherfucker. He actually asked me before. I'm like, do you do whatever you do that or care? But so not too long ago, there was a death in...

buds and which sucks. But, you know, comma, I think it's essential that the training is hard enough and difficult enough that that's a potential outcome. I'm not hoping for that outcome. And so a guy named David Phillips just wrote an article in the New York Times about this. And so my inbox has been flooded with people asking me, what do you think about the article? And I've actually, I almost had Dave, I don't know, David or Dave, I forget which one he likes to go by. I've talked to him on the phone because I wanted him to come up on the podcast because He did a bunch of stuff around Eddie as well, too. Eddie Gallagher.

So I was reading the article, and again, it's interesting. I don't want to say that he's biased, but the way that you write things can take an issue, and it's like, oh, we'll look at it from this angle as opposed to maybe taking a wider optic. And one of the things that I found fascinating was it talked about the attrition or success rate, depending on how you want to look at it.

It's like, okay, in the 80s, 40% of the people made it through. In the early 2000s, that dropped to 29% of the people made it through. And then in the modern era, in the class that this kid died in, it was 10%. And they're viewing it from the lens. You're saying the attrition rate is that? Or the success rate? So success rate in the 80s was 40%, then down to 29%. And in this kid's class, the one that died, it was 10%.

Okay. And the way that he wrote it, and the paragraph before and after was talking about, it's too hard. You know, it's excessive. It's too dangerous. And there's another way to look at it, which I think is the more important question. Let's assume that the curriculum has been the exact same from beginning to end. Maybe the quality of person that is attempting the training is the fucking variable, not the training itself. Maybe when people talk way back to, you know, the greatest generation, the hardest motherfuckers that had ever been on the face, planet Earth, who went and fought trench warfare

and then worked at a fucking auto dealership and said nothing about it and then did like... What's PTSD? Fucking plumbing afterwards and just chain smoke themselves to death which I'm not saying that's a great path either. Those dudes used to hammer in railroad spikes

with the head of their dick. That's how fucking hard they were. People are soft as fuck in the modern era. So if the curriculum's the same, maybe what we should be looking at is the people. Well, and also... But that article is like, no,

You know what I mean? Like, it's a weird way to look at it. The more important question to me is from the other perspective. Like, are we creating soft fucking people? So, yeah, they're not going to be as successful on a very difficult training program. And when was last time someone died in buds? Before that, I believe it was a drowning and aspiration. There's an evolution called what was called the hive or the beehive.

And it's in first phase. And they get everybody in the pool and you're fully clothed. then they start taking off articles of clothing, and they start really compressing people around. The instructors are kind of pushing people towards the middle, which becomes Lord of the Flies real fast. They're like, hey, take a boot off. So you'll get a breath to go underwater to take your boot off.

And it's like, your spot to come back up is no longer there. It's fine. And fucking humanity comes screeching to a halt as people are getting drugged down. So I guess a student went underwater and threw up underwater, aspirated on it. They got it, you know, at that, I don't know, I'm not a doctor. or so they weren't able to revive him. But I think in the article it said since it's inception,

11 people have died in training. So that's since the 40s. Yeah, I mean, the reality of it is is you need to look at what occurred. Yeah. And is there something that we can tweak? Was this the fault of the curriculum potentially? Or, I mean, I don't, what have they ruled the cause of death

on the latest one? It was, um, what the fuck? I think it's SIP, pulmonary edema. This is where Michael needs a microphone, because he could look this up. His name is Kyle Mullen, I believe, the kid that died. But it had to, so it was at the end of Hell Week.

He had made it through Hell Week, and they called medical services, I think, on this Saturday to get him there, and he expired in the hospital. Another student had to be intubated. And it's not a common thing, but it's also not uncommon. I mean, you're awake for five days, you're submerged in the water. Another thing that the article left out, and I know this because I have a close friend whose son was in that Helway class, is that it was ungodly cold, like uncommonly cold for San Diego, the water and the ambient air temperature. So, yes, of course the fucking success rate is going to be lower. Yeah.

That wasn't mentioned in the article either. So I'm saying, like, it's really easy to frame it in one way, whereas I think the better question is just, are we creating soft motherfuckers in society? and what I can say is having gone through as a student, going back as an instructor from 06 to October of 08, there was a difference for sure. And if I use my own kids as a metric and I see their social circle, it's like, I don't know if we're making the next greatest generation

or the next softest generation. I mean, I think every generation says this, like this near generation's a bunch of pussies, you know? But if you look at most 20-year-old kids these days, it's hard to come to any other conclusion. Then there's something going on here. There's something fucking going on. Like, I'm only 41. Like, we're not that old, right?

I'm super old. It seemed like fucking yesterday that I was 20 years old fighting dudes behind bars and doing all the dumb shit that young men do. But young men are not being young men anymore. And it's like, you know, you go to start. And there's all these 20-year-old kids with zero muscle tone. They look pale. They have like bags under their eyes. And it's like, are you fucking sick or something?

Like, what's going on? Super judgey, Greg. Yeah, I'm judging, but it's a truth, man. And it's like, I honestly think like, because I'm a conspiracy theorist, as you said, right? Or you could say that or you could say you like to wear a tinfoil hat. I'm going to let you choose. Bro. Do you have a tinfoil liner in their hat right now?

Yeah. Fuck, I didn't check. a lot of Americans are not subjecting themselves to any type of adversity. And it's like you need adversity for growth, both physically, spiritually, emotionally, like everything. You want to become smart. You better fucking go to start studying. And studying is not fun.

Studying sucks, dude. And it's just every single aspect of your life. You know, actually I posted a video yesterday of a podcast I did where I was talking about this. It's like since the beginning of mankind, if you wanted to eat, you better go hunt or forge. Both those activities are hard. Both those activities take energy and take effort. If you want to be warm, you better fucking chop wood all summer and stockpile it and build a sufficient cabin so you don't freeze to death.

If you want to be safe, you better build an army of people that can protect your village. Like everything about being a human being, the experience was difficult and dangerous. But that's what made people tough and resilient. And then in the last, what, 70 years, life became easy. and I think we're on this downward trajectory because no one's going through adversity and some people self-impose that adversity like guys like us for whatever reason

I want to go do this and we got to experience a lot of adversity as a young man but there's a lot of people that never go through anything and it's not good for it man I think the exposure to it when we were younger it definitely helped my first exposure to adversity

was working for my fucking dad on a construction site surrounded by just to say it was an environment that was not family safe and not OSHA we don't get into the fucked up shit he asked me to do it was like 11 on me oh you're remember the first time you let me use a jackhammer

he's like yeah just tie this rope around your waist and go stand on top of the fireplace start shaving it off okay yes it's fucking best day of my life by the way it's like then also a lot of the times it would end with don't tell your mom any of this shit I'm just up there 30 fucking feet up in the air with a rope. I don't even know if the other end of the rope was attached to anything.

Probably was just a fucking comfort rope and just shaving. Not a climbing rope that has give when you fall. Just snap your spine. No, it was the same rope that we would tie fucking equipment down on in this truck. I think I actually went over to the truck and tied it around myself. Yeah, like a 12 year old should not be using

a jackhammer three stories up. But that when I got to buds, I'm like, oh, fuck, this is that bad. Yeah. So that early on I mean, I don't know. Now it seems like there's an app for everything. Like you said, the foraging and going out and providing that stuff.

Uber Eats, DoorDash, which is super convenient. But if that's all you know, and you can sit on your couch and just bleep. Dude, there was a, I'm not going to throw him under the bus because he's basically a family member of mine. But we were at my gym and we needed to go to Target. It's one turn. It's from one highway to another highway. and it's about four miles. And it's in the same town, right?

And I hop in his car, and he was 16 at the time, just got his license, you know? Should be fired up to drive. And pulls his phone out and types Target in. I said, what fuck are you doing? I'm putting Target in my GPS. Yeah, I see that. That's why I'm asking, what the fuck are you doing?

Dude, we're going to Target. What do you mean? I said, it's one turn. You can't get there without your GPS? He goes, I don't know. I've never really thought about, like, actually, like, car. and the cardinal directions on how to get there.

And so I started asking the young kids, most high school kids don't even know what north, southeast, and west is. And it's like... I mean, they have to have heard of it before. Yeah, but I'm saying like, yeah, if you're where I'm sitting right now in your house, can you point north?

No. And bro, these phones, and I'm just as guilty as everyone. Oh, for sure. If you took my phone right now and looked at my screen time, I'd be fucking embarrassed, dude. But we have to balance that out was still being grounded in reality. Yeah.

You know? And it's like if everything becomes too easy, that's not a fucking good thing, man. Map encompasses a good skill to have. Dude, that's one of the best skill sets to this day that I took away from the military. Step one, orient your map. Yep. Or don't if you wanted to be really an adventure, I mean. But being able to find a point on a map is a skill set that I think every human being should need.

Like, dude, I climbed Mount Olympus. last summer with that my same boy levi he was 17 at the time and washington state wants all these different permits to be able to climb and camping permits and it's just like and you can get find this and that and i'm like i'm just going in the fucking mountains okay and part of my tinfoil hat shit i'm real over the government lately weird yeah i know you wouldn't understand that if you followed you when i got a fucking i got to pay somebody some amount of money so i can go walk in the mountains. I have a fucking problem with that. So we just went in the mountains. I don't give a fuck. I'm not paying. And then here comes this park ranger doing a compliance check, making sure

that everybody has their permits to be on the mountain. And she gets over to me. And she goes, hey, I know this is going to sound kind of weird, but I actually am just wondering if you can show me where I'm out on the map. And I was like, what? And she goes, yeah, it's, Doesn't she work there? Yeah, she's the park ranger doing the compliance check. And she goes, I walked way up this trail and I got a little disoriented. Do you know where we're at? And I said, yes, I know exactly where we're at.

So pull your map out. Pick up a pine needle like ranger school because you never point to a map with your finger, right? Why would you? You can't be precise. Or the spider co-open the very tip of the knife. Yeah, exactly, right? And I was like, we are right here and oriented her and got her dialed in. And then I was like, is this bitch going to fucking now come after me for being unpermitted?

It would be amazing if she did. She did not, though. Did you ask her for her permit? Yeah, I know, right? No, she was super gracious and kind to me, so I was like, okay, cool. But I was already thinking, I was like, if this fucking bitch ask me where she's at and then finds me, I will be talking to her fucking supervisor. I mean, let's not forget, Greg. You used to be the park ranger.

Bro, I know. Where do you think you're, what would you be up to you right now if you had not sat in that car that day? Oh, bro. I think about that all the time. How long ago was that? coming up on three years? May 5th of 2020. Okay. Was the video. So for people that don't know. Yeah, you should explain it a little bit so it can Yeah, because you've had me on a couple times, but I can't assume that everybody listens to every episode.

Yeah. I was a police officer in Seattle that spoke out against the COVID tyranny and the COVID lockdowns. And not just the lockdowns, but the way they were utilizing law enforcement to be able to enforce these. Because as a police officer, I believe that laws need to be legislate. And I mean, we've talked about that on our previous episodes. So I spoke out against it and said, hey, guys, and I was speaking to the profession in that video. I was like, this is not who we are. This is not what we do. Okay.

We serve the public and we can only enforce laws that are legislated and on the books. And if your governor or your mayor tells you to do things that are outside of that, not only should you say no, I think that you're morally obligated to both just the law and also our oath to refuse those orders. Well, the governor didn't like that. Shocking, right? And I was terminated immediately for that. And bro, best thing that's ever happened to me in my entire fucking life. Because it forced me to step outside of what's comfortable. And even though being a police officer, it's a hard job and it's demanding and it's, it's emotionally stressful.

It's also pretty simple. You put the uniform on. You clock in. You do your hours. You go home. You have good pay. You have good benefits. My mortgage is going to get paid.

My kids are going to get taken care of. Like, I know that life is going to go on. It's very consistent. That's what I'm saying, you know? And a lot of people need that. But when they told me, my department's like, and the way they did it was just, I mean, we talked about it before, but they're like, hey, Greg, we agree with your message. We agree with everything that you said. And we, we know that you're a good cop and your message is good, but you can't be saying that stuff publicly.

And I was like, okay, well, if I'm a police officer that can't. can't say that I should be defending people's constitutional rights publicly, it's probably time that we go our separate ways. And we did. And what it allowed me to do was put a tremendous amount of effort into my Jiu-Jitsu Academy. Then you invited me on here and I did cleared hot. I mean, that was like a week after that video went viral.

Yeah. You were like one of the first people to reach out to me. Well, fuck. People would just like, you got to reach out to this guy. I'm like, I'll fucking try. It was fucking nuts. There's nuts, bro. Yeah.

Then after I did cleared hot the first time. my inbox started getting filled up with people saying, bro, do a podcast, do a podcast. And at first I thought that was kind of silly. But then I was like, you know what? A lot of fucking people do podcasts. Why not give it a try and see where it goes? And remember I text you, I said, bro, what do I need to start a podcast?

Actually, the text was, what exactly do I need? Write me a list. I was out on my boat texting you. And I remember I told you that. And you're like, I hope it fucking sinks because I hate boats, but this is what you need. and so I bought all the equipment and had no idea what I was doing and just started a podcast. And now we're on episode 116 that came out last week.

And I mean, we talked about it at the gym. 50,000 downloads a month is awesome. Child's play compared to some platforms. Most, so here's what startling. Do a little research on the average per episode downloads in a 30-day time period. most from what you can find nobody ever really wants to talk about numbers but from what you can find it's like 200 yeah no it's because there's a fucking million podcast but that doesn't mean a million people have something that's actually I guess it would be interesting to the potential recipient

and so I kind of had like the perfect storm where I had a background in special operations as a ranger and then I was with the feds for a while I was with the locals for a while I had about 10 years in law enforcement and then you invite you invited me on here and people enjoyed that show. And immediately we were getting a pretty high amount of downloads. Yeah. And my production company that I work with, they're called Operation Podcasts. They're out of Los Angeles.

They're like, bro, we've never seen a new show do as well as your show. And because of that, a bunch of sponsorships started coming in. And I mean, I hear you say it all the time. Don't do a fucking podcast trying to get rich. No. But the other side of it is if your podcast does well, you will do well. They can become lucrative. Yeah.

And our podcast is doing almost as much as I made, like, when I first became a deputy. And it's like... You should just rebrand the name. And this endeavor is great, but it could be the tinfoil house. I suspect, though. Hey, I suspect that that shit's taken, though. Let's, uh, we're going to delve into that. We're going to delve into that in a second because the fucking government is doing things that is undeniable now.

Take it easy. You used to be the... I know. It's crazy to think about that. What do they call those people? Sometimes I get, what do they call us? Is it boot lickers? Is that what they call us? Yeah, dude. I was one time I was on a hunting trip.

One time. This was fucking last year. We were staying at a lodge because we were out at the fucking middle of nowhere in a wall tent in sustained 50-knott gus. And let me just tell you that massive sail with the little metal and it didn't do well against the wind. So we executed a contingency plan and went. and stayed somewhere else, mostly because the tent detonated.

We had no other choice. I don't know how to accurately describe the owners slash operators of this establishment. We got a room and we were exhausted because, of course, the fucking tent rips at like two in the morning. Why wouldn't it? Of course. So we're like literally just stacking heavy shit on top of light shit so we could go sleep in the front seat of our car until the sun came up so we could go pick that shit up and get out of it. I'm still missing fucking gear. Probably an elk right now wearing my pants somewhere in eastern Montana. And we get

to this establishment. We're fucking tired. Check in though. We get a meal. We lay down and the the owner slash operator, they decide to get into a screaming match. It's a husband and a wife. And let's just say they were touched. They were special. And he's yelling and she, fuck you I'm fucking turning you into the CIA they fucking know where you are I'm like oh he's one of them oh yeah so Leah and I are laying in bed and then my business partner Devere and his partner Erica they're one roof over and I'm just at this point I'm fast and I'm like fucking keep this going because this is amazing I don't think there's any physical harm going on but they're yelling some shit at each other like

deeply like I'm fucking turning you into the government blah blah blah blah blah next morning I go down to get coffee and the guy's sitting down there by the fire and I'm just warming up and he goes, hey man, what's going on? I'm like, nothing, just getting a cup of coffee? He's like, so what do you do for a living? Which is a question I hate and now it's easy

because I go, hey, I'm a coffee shop and it's like easy to talk to. Like, oh, I host a podcast who's like, yeah, but what'd you do before that? It's like, well, I was in the military. He goes, how did it feel to be a pit bull for the global elitists? Oh, God, dude.

traveling around. He used the word cabal, which I still don't actually know the fucking proper way to use it. But like, you know, how did it feel to, I think he said a chained pit bull

to do the bid. I'm just like, and I just looked at him and I said, that wasn't really my experience and just finished my coffee and got up and left. And bro,

this is what I tell people when they say that shit because it's like, I look at the government now and I'm very untrusting of them. And I think that there is a lot of corruption that's inside of the government.

I don't think that's even deniable. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, right? But when you look at what I did on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan,

you know, if you want to, if you want to take a, if you want to detach and take a global view, should we have been there? I mean, we can talk about that.

Yeah. And the older I get, the more I reflect and think that, man, was it fucking worth that your friends getting killed and the shit that we did

to just one day randomly pull out and be done? Like, I reflect on that stuff and think it seems like it doesn't make much sense. But then the other side of it is, man, that was the path that built me into who I am today. Yeah.

And all those experiences and everything that I did and all the relationships that I built, man, I wouldn't trade it for anything. That was a necessary part of my path. And young men are driven to conflict just because we're young men. And it's like, I didn't join the military. I mean, I joined pre-9-11 as well just because I was kind of lost. And it's like, oh, what am I going to do, you know? but going to combat and I didn't have nearly the combat experience like you I listened to you

and Glover talk and it's like fuck man fucking stacking bodies like cordwood you know be careful what you ask for though no of course yeah two-air ranges kind of suck but you know I had enough of it I got to taste enough of it and getting some gunfights and shit and understand like okay when when where the rubber meets the road I know that I can be courageous I know I can act without fear and like it kind of made me it almost like reassures you who you are as a man like oh yeah I pass that test I'm proud of myself right and I think young men are kind of drawn to that take the political stuff out of it because look at who we are fighting too like when I was in Ramadi Iraq and oh four and oh five there was there was guys from Syria and Yemen and they were doing the same thing as us

young men they're called a jihad yeah they wanted to get it on and they wanted to test themselves on the field of battle. So here you are. You got all these 20-something-year-old men coming from all over the world and we're killing each other in the streets of Ramadi. And it's kind of fucking crazy, right?

But you know what? That's what we wanted to be doing too. Yeah. And so like, I can say, coulda, shoulda, woulda, or the government did this or the government did that. But at the end of the day,

it wasn't a fucking draft. I was there on my own free will. So I can't point the finger and bitch and cry about it, you know? And then the other side it is. Like I said, it grew me to who I am today. And I think I'm proud of all that. And I think it was necessary, you know? I think there's also a huge gap between, if you look at like a pyramid, I guess. The people at the top of the pyramid and where we were at the very bottom. Yeah.

You know, to go back to that guy's comment, inside, I'm just laughing. I'm like, holy fucking shit. I can't get out of this room fast enough. And I will avoid a conversation with said individual at lunch and dinner. If we happen to be back to him, like, Roger that, buddy. I have a pretty good idea you're in the tinfoil hat brigade, which maybe you're a part of. I'm not even sure. Here's the reality of it, though. The more you look into the globalists and the world economic forum and Klaus Schwab and all these people, there is a lot of dark shit going on. Yeah. That's true. That's no longer debatable, right? I mean, they publicly state you will own nothing and love it. And that's like their goals of the future are not in alignment with my goals of the future. And that's

okay, right? But there's also a chance that that turns into conflict someday because that's, That's what happens with humanity Read a fucking history book People have different ideas of where they want society to go And then we find ourselves in conflict And if that happens, that happens And I talk about it on my show all the time Don't live in a triggered state

Or a fearful state Don't let the maybes or the what ifs Like that guy He's probably consumed by it, right? I think it's what he lives all day every day And that's letting them dictate your happiness And your energy

in your fucking spirit. For me, if the world goes fucking down some dark spiral where the globalist are trying to take us over and all of these things that people think are a potential possibility, okay, then I'll fucking deal with it. And I'm prepared to deal with it because I have a lot of fucking guns. I'm fit.

I have a lot of good fucking friends that are highly trained. Like, okay, if that happens, it happens. But in the meantime, I'm going to grow my jihitsu business. I'm going to raise my kids. I'm going to keep doing my podcasts. I'm going to try and get wealthy. Oh, you can't say that. Aspiring to be wealthy is a bad thing now, right?

Is it? Some people hate on it, you know? What is considered a good thing at this point? Yeah, who fucking knows, man? But it's, for me, it's super inspiring and it's super motivating to see for the longest time I was in the hamster wheel of trading hours for money, right? You trade hours for your life for money. And as long as you're stuck on that hamster wheel, man, you're never going to fucking get out of but that's your life, right?

I just read a book called, or I'm reading it, it's called The Urban Monk again. And one thing that they talk about, it's like, dude, you don't trade hours for money. You trade your value for money.

And once you actually, and I think we've talked about it before, like I had imposter syndrome for a long time too. You know, a lot of people looked at me like. As a cop? Just as a man. Really?

I was a black belt. I was an army ranger. A lot of people looked at me like, dude, you should have the answer. You know, and it's like, I don't even fucking know myself. To a narrow set of questions. Yeah, exactly, right?

Yeah. And it's like, dude, at the time, my marriage was kind of in shambles. I was going through some depression. Like, I'm not proud. I don't feel very proud of who I am. Like, I don't think I have arrived at a point where I have this life figured out. And over the last 24 months, I feel like I'm arriving at a place. I'm very content with who I am.

And a big part of that is figuring out how to be you for a living. Now, I'm not saying everybody can quit their job. and just dick off at a Jiu-Sitza Academy and do podcasts. But you know what? I mean, I say this often. I'm making a lot more money teaching Jiu-Jitsu and podcasting than I ever made as a law enforcement officer. Yeah, but it's based off of your time and experience as a law enforcement officer.

Of course it is. Yeah. And you're mill. You know what I mean? No, no. Yeah. And that's the thing. People can do it, but you can't look at Greg now and dismiss what got you there.

100%. But people do that. Yeah, no. The must be nice crowd. There is a period of time. And I think that you have to be on the grind. You know, when you graduate high school until you're probably somewhere around our age, you have to be that worker be.

You have to be putting in the hours. That's where you build your credibility. That's where you learn about yourself. That's where you develop your skill sets. You don't have to do any of that. You do have to do that. No, you don't because you can be 22 on Instagram putting out fucking stripper wisdom. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

It's like, you always take the conversations to you down the crazy. Easy rabbit holes. But fucking bro. The other side of that is like I think a lot of people, they think that because between the ages of 20 to 35 to 40 being in that hamster wheel, that that's their whole life. And I've had so many police officers reach out to me in the last 24 months. Now that I've kind of built a little bit of a platform.

They see the path that I walked. Now they see that I'm free. And they're like, I want to do that. But I just never could. And a lot of people tell themselves this lie. that because of what they used to do, that that's what they have to do in the future. And bro, that's not true.

Yeah. We can fucking build whatever future you want. It's a sunken cost vouchee. Yeah. And you just have to believe in it. You have to put the time. You have to put the energy. And then you have to put the work in,

but it's fucking there. Yeah. And each one of us holds the power to be able to do amazing things. I mean, we talked about it as we were literally walking in this building. I bought 30 acres out in the woods. I built a firearm range.

And when I bought that property, a lot of people are like, you're crazy. What are you doing? Because it didn't have a driveway. And it was a mile long, I built a mile long driveway. And yeah, that was a long, arduous process. I started with a machete and then a weed whacker and then a chainsaw. And then I had to have a bunch of trucks brought in and machinery.

And it ended up being like a $70,000 endeavor to build a one mile driveway. But guess what? My driveway's done now. And now I built a firearm range. And fucking Mike Glover. already booked it for a weekend and it sold out in three hours and we're going to start running courses out there and people sell themselves short and say you can't because of something as meaningless as a driveway and it's like motherfuckers are building robots and sending them to

Mars I could build a driveway like Elon Musk is doing is building neurolinks so you can play video games with your mind which I'm not sure is a good idea yeah bro I can build a driveway you know Can you imagine the number of people who are going to volunteer to have those tests neuralinks? Not me. They'll be like here, it's fucking right here. Is this where you need to put it? So did you see the video of the monkey playing the video game? No.

Okay, so check it out on YouTube. There's a monkey and it's playing, what is it, Pong, where the two paddles are moving up and down. And he's playing it with this joystick. So he's operating it physically. How the fuck does the monkey know how to do that in the first place? I have so many questions. I don't know. You'll have to see the video.

And then what they do is they implant this neuralink. So now, as instead of him physically controlling it, he's controlling the paddles with his mind. But he's also still doing it with the joystick, right? So he's engaging that part of his mind that the neuralink is in. Yeah. But he's still doing it with the joystick simultaneously. And I guess that like matches it up. And then they unplug the joystick.

and now the joystick is no longer operational. He thinks he's controlling it with the joystick, but he's now controlling it with his mind. It's fucking bizarre. But that's where we're at. People need to go watch the documentary Planet of the Apes. Or Terminator. Both of those would be a great starting point.

At some point, it's like, are we going to have to fucking nuke ourselves? It's probably inevitable at some point. I wish I could say I had high hopes. Humanity is the fucking greatest thing on planet Earth. It's also the fucking most vile and destructive thing on planet Earth, you know? So are you distrustful of the government or the people that are the government, the group of people? Because this is the one I struggle with.

Like democracy, I think, is a slippery slope as it is. You know, I actually don't know what the longest standing democracy is. But I think it's... I think we're coming up. up on it. I think we are too. And I think it's a fucking ice skating rink as it is. I'm more concerned with the people who make governance and occupation, which I don't think it was ever intended to be. And that's what they're doing on both sides of the fence. I am deeply distrustful of that. We have a bunch of 80 year old motherfuckers in there on a, dude, they're super sharp though.

On a government salary. They're super sharp. That are buying $25 million dollar mansions. Yeah. Like that government is supposed to be of the people for the people by the people. And it was like, wasn't it George Washington that said like it's from the plow and then you go serve and then you go back to the plow? Like it's a period of your time that you serve and leadership should be a burden, right? Yeah. No one should go to be a fucking congressman or a senator to like, yes, dude, this is going to be my new career. It should be, fuck, dude. Okay.

I need to do this. And we're starting to see more candidates like Tony Cowden. He came here and did this, right? That's a friend of mine and he ran and it didn't work out. Joe Kent is another buddy of mine and it looks like he's going to fucking win. Do you know Joe Kent? I don't. Okay.

He's fucking awesome. You should have him on. Okay. He was a career green beret and then some other stuff we'll talk about off air. His wife was actually killed in Syria, Shannon Kent. Do you remember that story? Yes, I do. Okay.

And he was deployed and she was deployed at the same time. They have two young sons and she got killed in Syria and he is like, I got to put the shit behind me. Yeah, it's the only choice you have. It's the only choice I have. And he did my show and he's like, but I need to stay in the fight because I know there's still a lot to fight for. So my fight is now shifting and I'm going to do it politically. But the right people don't look at it as an opportunity to serve themselves. They look at it as, this is something our country needs. And I feel like a lot of our government is self-serving at this point. And if you look at what's going on, man, like, I mean, fuck, dude. We're. We're going to. We're going to. We're going to

sending how much money to Ukraine every fucking month. Meanwhile, half of our infrastructure shot are fucking, I mean, I was a deputy in Compton and South Central. I can tell you about fucking hoods. We have so many people that are impoverished that don't have opportunity. And it seems like every election cycle, they go around and they promise all these things to all these people. You know, Joe Biden was promising all these things to the black community. And it's like, how about we, instead of fucking promising all these things to these people, and that people, how do we just figure out

how to fucking literally build America up? I think that needs to be our priority, and I don't think it's their priority. And so, if you look at what's been taking place, dude, the final fucking straw for me was when American contingency was on

the FBI's fucking extremist list. And if you looked at that document that leaked, it says, mostly online presence fairly low propensity for violence. Even though they had no history. You mean no fucking propensity for violence, you motherfuckers? And the thing that's frustrating about it is, dude, I was a federal agent. I was with the U.S. Marshals for a long

time. I worked with a lot of FBI agents regularly. A lot of people in these three letter agencies are good people. They're fucking people just like us, right? A lot of them are veterans and that's their next path. But when are people going to step up and start saying, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, who stood up for Mike Glover? Mike Glover is one of your best friends. I don't know Mike well, but I know him well enough to know he's a good fucking man. And for his name to be attached to an extremist group, we should be fucking outraged about that. Mike Glover gave his whole fucking life for this country. I was going to say he was a part of an extremist group.

He was part of the Green Berets. Yes. And then went into three-liter alphabet soup fucking service afterwards. Risked his life for years on end to support the U.S. mission. On the extreme edge of what people are willing to give when it comes from a. a service perspective. That's what I mean. He was in an extremist crime. Yeah. And fighting for our country.

Okay, so I'm going to put my tinfoil hat on right now. You've had that fucking thing on the long time. And I'm going to tell you. Is it a beret? Dude, my beret from regiment, it was out in my garage and it got chewed up by a rat, so I don't even have my fucking barrette anymore. Unfortunately. I think

that our fucking, the elitist inside of our fucking government. When you say elitist, what do you mean? I don't know yet. is, I mean, do you think Joe Biden is literally making decisions for this country? The dude is demented. I don't think any actual president, though, makes decisions in a bubble. True.

There's the president, and then there's the people that he surrounds himself with. I don't know anything about dementia or cognitive function from a professional perspective. I do because I watched my dad die from it. Yeah. It was a 10-year process, right? My point being not knowing anything about it, I still have real concerns with some of the word salad that comes out of his mouth. For sure.

And here's the thing. I lean to the right. I consider myself a conservative. I do not consider myself a Republican because I believe that both parties are compromised now, right? But I can also look at guys like Bill Clinton and Barack Obama and be like they were fucking razor sharp. They were charismatic.

They had a command presence. They could stand up at their podium and they could deliver a message and articulate what they want. He can't do any of that stuff. And to me, that's pretty terrifying. It's shocking. Why would he be the person that they chose to put him in and carry the Democratic Party? I don't know.

It doesn't make sense to me. I think there's a hierarchy inside of both parties. I honestly feel like there's like maybe it's an unwritten list, but I think there's like this ascension. It's like, okay, dude. I agree. It's your turn. And so I feel like when I say the global elites, the people that are pulling the strings deciding who's going to go where and what position they're going to hold.

because I don't think that the government on its face is what we think, or what we think that it is or what it should be. I think there are people that are dictating certain things. And so the government doesn't want men that are resilient, that are tough, that are smart, that are capable. Like, look at everything in society, dude. It is geared towards making, is dumbing us down, making us fat, making us weak, making us stupid, all the way down to like the fucking food pyramid. They want you eating fucking high fructose quorum. corn syrup and carbohydrates, you know? Have you ever had something?

It's fucking delicious. It's fucking delicious. And it also makes you fucking lethargic, fat, and lazy, right? You know what the problem is with that, though, is... Is it by design or did it just... Either way, I don't know. People choose the easier path. A hundred percent they do.

They will take... And I'm as guilty of this as anybody. It's... And this is one thing, I've talked about it a bunch of the podcast, too. Like, there's a famous speech about making your bed in the morning. which actually has nothing to do with making your bed, even though he was physically like, hey, get up in the morning.

The first thing you should do is make your bed. What was his name? McCraven. Commence in speech, I think it was at Texas, one of the Texas universities. And it's more about doing something disciplined when you first get out of bed to get that momentum going in the right direction.

One of the things, my fucking... I have two teenage sons living with me. One's getting ready to turn 19, the other one's 17. He's a little bit of 10. These motherfuckers will not put the toilet paper on the fucking toilet paper roll. That's a problem. They put it vertically.

They will have a completely empty roll of toilet paper that stays there, I think, forever. And they just put it, the other one, they just set it right on top. And it shouldn't drive me crazy, but it fucking drives me crazy. No, it should drive you crazy because how you do something is how you do everything. You know what I'm saying? That's the truth. I'm like, God, fucking damn it. Like just I get, but it's a perfect example of there's an easy choice and a harder choice.

And in that one, both are easy. To take it back to first form, the whole 75 hard thing with Andy Fricela, when I went down there, their headquarters has 500 employees. It's a massive operation, right? And they're expanding as we speak. And he says, how big do you think the janitorial staff would be for 500 employees? 20? It's fucking zero. They clean up after themselves.

Because if your garbage is full, you fucking take the garbage out to the dumpster. If you dribble piss on the urinal, go get a paper towel and wipe it up. Because we're building a culture of accountability here. And it's like, oh, okay. Yeah, that makes fucking sense. But any government agency or the same thing with the military, like when I was a police officer, we had a fucking like 10 Somali women that would just follow everybody around and empty out their trash cans and wipe down their lunch tables and it's like, dude, it's the American entitlement.

It breeds laziness for sure. It breeds laziness, you know? But dude, to go back to the Glover thing, I honestly think like the reason that he got targeted, because what is Mike Glover's overall message? What is he preaching? Preparedness. Preparedness, right? But it's not preparedness just for if the government's coming to get you.

It's like natural disaster. Mike Glover wants to see you do well in the face of adversity. And what that does, it teaches people to live in a manner where they're not living in a state of fear. And dude, preparedness is the antidote to fear. And if you can say, okay, well, if shit goes south, I have this much food and I have, you know, I have this fallback plan. I have calms with these guys. Just some basic things. Bro, you can, it dramatically reduces the anxiety level.

A lot of people are living in that constant triggered state, cortisol running through their fucking veins 24-7 you turn out CNN or Fox News and it's just trigger trigger trigger it's fear-based and it's like Mike Glover's approach to life is the opposite of that we're gonna take all of that fear and we're gonna use that as a motivation to prepare ourselves and as soon as you take the steps to prepare yourself okay I'm good now yeah you know I have so many questions about how he ended up I don't even know what that thing it was like an internal memo or a list. It's like, okay, did an analyst have to produce a high volume of those so they're, you know what I mean? Are they grabbing it straw? Like, how did it actually end up there?

I would love to know that too. Yeah. Did it go through a filtering process? Was it a group of people that identify? Like, there's so many questions I had that will never be answered. So, you know, I only have half of my tinfoil hat on. You're in a fucking full wetsuit at this point. bro. I think a couple years ago, if we had talked about some of the things that are happening, I would be telling people, you're fucking crazy. But I don't think anybody's crazy. I just, I have so many questions that are unanswered that it's hard for me to land.

Like, government is a good example. People want to bitch about the government. And then if you pull up the actual number of people who are eligible to vote, who did vote, like, that's a fucking problem too. Yeah, yeah. People choosing not to participate, but bitching about the outcome. So not only do I think, I would actually like to see a nice flush of the toilet of people who are serving in the highest levels of government to reset. And then one of the first things is term limits.

But on the other side, the American, but the American people have to fucking participate. Yeah, but when we do participate, and this isn't even the fucking stolen election thing, like Bernie Sanders was the candidate in 2016. That's who that's who they wanted. And what did they do? He said, nope, we're giving you Hillary Clinton. And it's like they're no longer giving people options. They're just kind of force feeding what they want. That's where the flush of the toilet, I think, would help.

Yeah, yeah. But also, you know, when the voting turnout is 40%. It's like, fuck you guys. We need to have a voting turnout of 80, 90%. Make it a national holiday. Or what I would like to do is punish people for not voting. Well, bro, I mean, here's the other side. You ever watch those videos where people will like randomly go around big cities and be like,

I know where you're going. Hey, can you tell me who the current sitting president is? Or can you tell me what the largest river in America is? Or can you tell me like the three branches of government? Just these questions that you learn in eighth grade, nobody fucking knows anything. Well, and it's crazy. Let's take into account the editing process. Of course.

Yeah, yeah. They're for sure giving us the fucking. They're cherry picking what I like to call dumdums. Some of the shit that you see is shocking. There was one of those. I happened to be watching the other day. And the question was, how many days are there in a year? Yeah, yeah, I saw it.

400. Someone said 400. And another woman said 1,000. It's just like, 1,000. Have you ever had a Christmas? Was it 1,000 days ago? What the fuck? Hey, something that's not popular to say, we are not all the same, dude. No, we're not all the same.

There are some fucking people. Well, you talked about it with Jiu-Jitsu in the Black Belt Realm. Let's just talk about it as a species. Yeah. There's a fucking bell. bell curve and you know maybe the heavier side of the bell curve is a little heavier you know for some people and and another thing that I think about it's like you know you are the average of who you surround yourself with right and so because my video went viral and my jiu jitza academy

blew up a lot of people that were drawn to that academy kind of share my perspectives right and I'm not saying that we should isolate ourselves and be around the same people, but inevitably, the activities, the way you carry yourself, who you are as a human being, the circle you build is a lot of times, it's often like-minded people. And then also, I defied the COVID lockdowns. We were told, you have to shut your gym down. Well, I did for two months because I didn't understand what was happening, just like nobody did. But after two months, I said, my people need jihitsu.

And if you don't fucking like that, I mean, I, I, I. I made a video. I said, if you don't fucking like that, come here and try and arrest me and find out what that looks like because my body armor and my Air 15 are here. You're probably on so many federalists. Bro, I know I'm on all of them, right?

But that's the truth, bro. I mean, you send me to fucking Ramadi to fight men to the death, and now you're telling me you're going to take my business away that I feed my children with. We have a fucking problem. Well, now you look,

did you see the most recent CDC guidelines when it comes to COVID? Yes. I mean, it's, well, and I can't fall. I mean, the death rate they were thrown around when nobody knew what the fuck was going on was pretty. It's like, okay. Bro, there's a lot of propaganda, you know? Like, did you listen to?

What I'm saying is in the beginning and then maybe, like, like, we don't know what the fuck this is, so we're going to be hot and heavy. Yeah, yeah. But as that shit titrates out, you know what I mean? And also, I think one of the best things that the government could do would be to actually stand up in front of a microphone on camera and be like, my bad. We did the best that we could. That could only go so far because I do think that there, I mean, your head's going to explode when you read the real Anthony Fauci,

which is going to come with a new set of sunglasses. I'll upgrade you to the cleared hot model. And at some point, it's like, holy shit, the dollar signs and zero is associated with this. And again, I know that the book was written from a certain perspective that I'm not all the way through it, but some things are almost impossible to deny. if somebody would stand up and be like, we actually, we did the best we could, we fucked this up.

Yep. That would be the first step towards recovering, I think, a lot of faith and integrity from people. Bro, you don't never happen though. You know what's going to, politicians, all of them, are, it's like they're devoid of humility. Like, do you know what that would do for their leadership capital?

They don't even fucking know what leadership capital is because they're not fucking leaders. If you stand up in front of your men and you say, hey, guys, I thought that this was the, best way to execute this at the time. But in hindsight, I realize I fucked up here and I fucked up here.

And this is what I'm going to do to fix it. And please accept my apology. Your men are going to be like, okay, Roger that. No one ever does that. They are still fucking like defending everything to the point where we know it's lies. Well, that's the thing.

They take it so far. Like if you if you're standing out in the fucking rain telling me, and I I can see the rain, and I'm also in the rain too, and I can feel it, and I can touch it, and you're telling me that it's sunny out. Like, at some point, I'm like, what the fuck are you talking?

Yeah, what are you fucking talking about? But you refuse to deviate from your stance. At some point, people are just going to back away, and then they stop listening to anything that you have to say, and that's a problem. And I think a lot of people arriving at that point. Yeah. Like, I listened to the, I had that road trip out here yesterday, and I listened to the newest Rogan with Aaron Rogers.

Have you listened to that? I have not. Bro. That fucker's tall. He's tall as fuck. Also, Joe's not that dull. So that picture could skew it a little bit. But I mean, you listen to what he was subjected to because he didn't want to get vaccinated.

It's like he's a fucking leper, you know? And now they still haven't come out and been like, oh, our bad. And the NFL treated him like a fucking second-class citizen. He tells the whole story. And it's like, man, people need to fucking start coming forward and just admitting fault. That would go so fucking far. But I mean, the whole point we even went down this rabbit hole is because when I defied the COVID lockdowns, my fucking gym blew up because people needed that outlet. People needed that outlet.

You take people's fucking fitness away. And the cool thing about it is because we're the only show in town that said fuck the lockdowns, man, we got a lot of people trying jiu-jitsu, a lot of kids trying jiu-jitsu because there was no other outlet. But the other side of that is because they are people that are willing to defy the lockdown, that circle of people, that tribe that I built a lot of like-minded people. And then you start to think, okay, this is a representation of America, people chasing their fitness, people that are building community, people that fucking like want to commit to something bigger than themselves. And then you go to the mall. Then you go to Walmart. That's right, dude. Or you go to the airport.

Yeah. And it's like, oh, yeah, this is what America is. I'm out of fucking touch with reality, you know? I wish people could feel how it, how it fucking changes you to seek and thrive in adversity. I know. Again, back to the jih Tzu. What happens on the mat and the impact it can have off of the mat is, is unbelievable. But you're, I mean, when you're getting smashed, it's not fucking awesome.

All you want to do is just be like, I'm going to figure out of way. to get on top and fucking pay you back. And bro, there's, there's, to this day, you're seeking it. There's sometimes that I still get that anxious response. If I have some big tough black belt, have knee on belly and like, fucking, you feel your gut starting to get squished.

Well, you should just get out. It's like, fuck, fuck, fuck. And it's like, bro, you're fine, your training. That's your friend on top of you. Fucking pull it together. And do it to him. And yeah, figure out how to solve the problem, right?

That mindset, though, the recognition of maybe losing grasp of your emotions a little bit, Being able to rein it back yet be objective while in an environment that most people would, first off, for anybody who's never been on neon belly where they really slide that fucker right up underneath your sternum. You know, like, I don't know if I'm going to throw up or shit my pants or option C both at the same time. And I also can't breathe. And you can work your way through that and figure out a way to escape without exposing an arm or giving them your back, both of which are my favorite tactics to get out of that. I'm just like, don't you want this? Get off my fucking stomach.

Then you go outside and somebody cuts you off in traffic, you're like, whatever. Uh-huh. Or, you know, whatever other emergency or non-emergency that can become an emergency in somebody's life if they don't seek adversity. Like, it's just as such a huge difference. It rounds the edges for me on so many things. And it's fucking fun. And it's healthy, physically healthy, emotionally healthy, mentally healthy. And you have to be willing to like, I honestly feel like to be a balanced human being.

mind, body, and spirit is a real, it's a three-tiered approach, right? And if you don't nurture all three of those, it's like a three-legged stool. You kick one leg out and it's going to topple over. And so, like, if you just completely neglect your body and you're not training, you're not eating healthy foods, you're not, and I don't even necessarily say jiu-jitsu, but find something to challenge your body and make it healthy and make it work. If you're unwilling to do that, I don't think you'll ever be able to, find yourself as a complete balanced human being, you know?

And I mean, none of us will probably ever find ourselves to be complete, complete and balanced, but it's the path trying to get there that it's the journey that counts, right? Yeah. And not, not being on that journey, fuck man, people are,

people are missing out. And like, I see even, even people in my family that it's like, they're super overweight. Oh, you're, you just overdo it.

You're an extremist. You're always at the gym. You're going to, your body's going to wear out when you're, 50 and it's like is it though no look at i mean look at guys now we're starting to see i mean we're in our 40s but we're starting to see like guys like rogan guys like cam haines guys like jock go jaco's in his 50s now right 62 75 yeah i have no idea how old he is no but the truth is like that's a myth you're not going to wear your body out sure you might fucking wear your knees out or

whatever like but that's also because yeah but life this is one a quote somebody sent to me recently and I love it. Life is meant to be spent, not saved. Exactly. 100% dude. And so like... Like, I'm willing to go... My theory on life is you get a lap around the track

to use a race car analogy. And my goal is to have a fucking jalopy. Fuck yeah. Barely making it across. There's no windows in that shit. Smoking and fucking... The base blew out the fucking windows. And it's like, it's very dinged up

because I hit all sorts of shit. But then the other side, like, you know, I was my... I got so bad. with a fucking knee pain a couple years ago, I could barely walk. Really? Yeah, dude.

Did you see injury? No, it was from running. That's why you do Jigitza, so you don't have to run. So dude, I went to, uh, I had an MRI done, and I went to an orthopedic surgeon, and he's like, you're looking at a full knee replacement in your left knee. And I was 38 at the time. And I was like, I'm not,

I don't feel comfortable with that. I don't think replacing a knee at 38 is going to serve me well when I'm 60. So I'm just going to suck it up and I'm just going to fucking, eat this pain as long as I can. And it was bad, man. And I know, like, how tough of a human being I am when I need to be. And it was fucking testing my will.

And so, again, put on the tinfoil hat, right? I went down the fucking, the woo-woo fucking methods of healing. Magnets and shit. Did you have crystals? Crystles? Fuck, yeah. Oh, listen. Crystles.

Fucking red light therapy. CBD oils, cannabis. So all of those are fine. Let's talk about these crystals for a second. Are you, like, rubbing them on your body? How fucking crazy were you getting? Bro, this is shun guide on my arm right now, and it's supposed to help have a healing energy to it.

What is wrong with you? Bro, listen to me. I'm one. I had fucking doctors telling me. Michael's just over here like, oh, my God. Yeah, exactly, right? All you motherfuckers think I'm crazy. I told the orthopedic surgeon that I'm not having my knee replace,

and I am at 100% now. And I do not need any fucking anything. And I can fucking run. I can ruck. I can fight and I have zero knee pain now. Well, you need crystals. So what is it? I also did tons of cold therapy.

I got the ice bath or the ice barrel and the cold plunge tub. I got a big fucking barrel sauna in my backyard. How does that barrel stay cold? It doesn't. So you have to put ice in it? You have to put ice in it. So this is why I tell people about the, and I mean, and I love the company. They fucking sent me one for free and I like it, right?

Because I've always had that question. But this is the truth about it. The only reason that I really like the ice barrel is because I live in Seattle where it's cold most of the year. So when I go out in my tub in the winter, I have to hit it with a hammer and break the ice out of the top of it. Okay. And naturally it's cold. But if you live in Hawaii, the ice barrel is probably not a good option. 70 degrees.

Yeah, exactly. It's going to feel like you're getting in a bathtub. So the other one you got, though. It's called the cold plunge. Okay. And it has a refrigeration unit and a filter in it that keeps the water at 39 degrees. So that thing's game time all the time. All the time.

Yep. And so I did every single thing that I could find towards healing. Also, like meditation and fucking setting intentions and manifesting my healing and all of this shit. And I know, again, if you would have told me two years ago that you're going to meditate to manifest healing energy into your knee, I'd say you're out of your, you're fucking out of your mind. But this is what I know. I have zero knee pain now. So is it all placebo? Is it simply the mind's ability to affect the physical?

I don't know. But I'm going to fucking keep going with it because I turn down the surgery and now I'm healed. I know what I'm getting you for Christmas. It's going to be a dream catcher. It's going to be a crystal. And the real Anthony Faucibook. Hey, I want the fuck,

I want you listeners out there to write Andy and be like, hey, he's fucking right. I use crystals. I heal myself too because there's a lot of people with these crazy stories. Do you put them up your butt? Is that how they work? Yeah.

No, they have sharp edges. I don't think you would, I don't think that'd be a smart play. Buff that shit out. Good God. Dude, but where do you like, I honestly feel like the older I get, the more open I am to anything and everything. Because there's, the older you get, the more you realize you don't know shit. That's what I'm saying, bro.

Yeah. And there's a, there is an energy, there's a spirituality. I was a fucking atheist the entire time I was a ranger, the entire time I was deploying. and I knew. I was just like, one day I'm going to get shot in the face, and that's the end of Greg Anderson. And I had no beliefs that there was any bigger picture, that there was any connectivity with the universe,

none of that stuff. I think that there is now. What changed that for you? I honestly think just like I had some different experiences where I felt connected to other people in a manner that was, you know, I'd get text messages from a friend at night when I was feeling down.

It was like three in the morning. And she's like my wife's best friend. She's like, hey, I don't know what's going on right now, but there's some negative energy around you. And if you need to talk, I'm available. And dude, that happened to me like three or four times because I used to have really bad insomnia too. Do you ever deal with insomnia issues,

just staring at the fucking ceiling all night and then being super tired the next day? So sleep was one I always struggle with. Uh-huh. And to go back to Mike, he created a supplement called Wolf-21. it is the best sleep that I've ever gotten. I just saw that the other day. It has completely changed my recovery because I never like post-traumatic stress is a weird one, right?

Like I have a, I think a moderate, my theory when I went in for the VA, what the fuck do they call it? Rating exams. I was like, you know what? I'm just going to, I'm going to answer all these questions honestly. So I think they put a moderate post-traumatic stress. They put the disorder on it, which I actually don't think it's a disorder at all. I think it's a totally common thing, a natural reaction to exposure to the things that we were exposed to.

And then you can go one of two ways with that. Yeah. Yeah. And to me, I would rather focus on the growth that comes from a post-traumatic growth versus some type of disorder. And people smarter than me can argue about that stuff. But, you know, there's the Hollywood version of post-traumatic stress

where you're fucking living out a hallucination, hallucination. But then you're in Walmart and you snap out of it. Yeah. And then on the 4th of July. you're crawling under your bed and crying. And so there's that one. Or there's people having night tears. And all three of those things are probably real for some people.

I have never experienced a single one of those. Yeah. I have for the longest time had a difficult time going to sleep and staying asleep and getting... For me, if I wake up and my brain does a revolution on a topic, I can feel I'm like, fuck. It transitions to a gear where I'm not going to be able to get back to sleep. and the biggest thing, there's a variety of products and not to make this an ad for Mike stuff,

even though I buy it every month. Shout out Mike Glover, Wolf 21. Yeah, for sure. And they have CBD stuff and full spectrum, and it's like CBN and CBD, and I don't know how all that shit interacts. So make, like, if you work for an agency and they test, I don't know if you would pop for it.

Just do your own research. But as soon as I started taking that stuff, I sleep so much better And I like wake up in the morning My biggest thing was I would go to sleep And wake up as tired if not more tired Yeah And I don't know how that's possible

Dude I was the same way And it was a vicious cycle Yeah it's the worst And CBN which is another cannabinoid That's what's in the Wolf 21 It's fucking great Yeah I have no idea how that shit works But that cannabinoid is like specifically geared

Towards rest sleep and recovery I'll send you a bottle of his stuff Like I literally We were just at an origin camp with a guy who had just got out of the military. I emptied, or Leah emptied half of a bottle and gave it to him. Because it's the same thing. It's just struggling to get restful sleep. Fuck, it's awesome.

But, I mean, the whole thing that got us on this topic was I was dealing with some severe insomnia issues. And any time I was having a bad night, like a real bad night, this girl would reach out to me. And she's like, hey, I know you're having a bad night. I can feel negative energy. And I was like, what the fuck is this the first time? How does she know I'm happy? Like, maybe she just put a fucking camera in our bedroom and like, you know, but no, it happened enough times. And here's the other side of it.

I never woke up to a text message that's like, hey, I can feel you having a bad night. No, I didn't, bitch. I slept perfect tonight. It's like there's some way the human beings are connected. And I don't know if it's like a frequency or a fucking like some type of connectivity that goes beyond the realms that we understand. but we are. Like, I don't know, do you feel that? Do you think that there's a spiritual component to human beings?

Man, on this one, what's the term, agnostic? Which is like, just comfortable saying, I don't know. Yeah, I mean. And bro, that's a, I think that's a healthy perspective too. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. I actually am really, I have known people in my life who are, they are so faithful and they believe so much.

I'm so envious of their ability to do that because I can't fake it. And I used to say that to the super religious guys on our teams because they're like, you know, I'm fighting for Jesus. And when I get killed, I'm going to heaven. And it's like, man, I wish I felt that. Yeah, I never had that experience. When I get fucking killed, I feel like I'm going to be eaten by worms, you know? I mean, that would happen to probably both parties.

Yeah. Yeah, I land in the middle, man. I don't there. I do think that there are plenty of things that happen that have no worldly explanation. Mm-hmm. And I think as a species, we know so little about our actual species, but we like to pretend we know a shit ton. Yeah. And that's the thing, man.

Like the more that I'm open to saying, like, there is a power out there that's bigger than myself. And I don't know what it is. And my fucking little brain will never be able to comprehend it. But I feel like believing and feeling like this energy, bro, my life has changed in trajectory dramatically in the last 24 months. my marriage is the best it's ever been my business is the best it's ever been i feel like i'm on this trajectory and uh i'm not saying like it's necessarily like a destiny or whatever but man there's some force in my life that i feel like is bigger than myself and it feels good and i kind of appreciate it and so i don't know what that is but i'm just going to go with it you know that's

why i'm going down to that uh an iawaska retreat in costa rica and april because everybody that does ayahuasca says that it like connects you to your spirituality and I've known a I'm sure you've known a lot of people quite a few on it too right and I get the same story from all my friends like bro it's a powerful tool to connect you to your spirituality so fuck let's go see you know it's just I just want to keep an open mind you'll never hear me say like oh it's this or it's that because anybody that says that you're kind of full shit you know yeah I only know one person that uh ayahuasca that type of treatment didn't work well for everybody else has had resound and impactful and powerful experiences in their life.

And I know the seal community is big on it. They're sending a lot of people down there for sure. And I hope it's- Are you friends? Do you know Johnny Sotelo? Not well, but yes. Okay. Yeah, we grew up together on the West Coast. He's been out on the East Coast for a long time.

Okay, I've become friends with Johnny over the last couple years. And his, like, biggest mission is taking special operations veterans that are struggling and helping them heal through different avenues. But plant medicine is one of them. And they're having huge success with it. So there's something to it, you know? Or like Seth, farewell, man, he was in a dark place too. And he went and did an ibogaine treatment.

Yep. And I'll butcher this, so I'm not even going to try it. But it's somehow related to ayahuasca, but it's not the same. They say, like, one is the feminine energy and one's the masculine energy of the same plant. You should do the feminine one. Yeah. Done. But fuck, man, he told me he's like, for the first time of my life, I feel good.

and I feel like I have a clear path and I feel like I understand all of these fucking demons that I was battling and I'm able to put it behind me in a fucking week. Did it last for him? Did that feeling last? Bro, he got killed or he died shortly after.

That's the fucking sad part. That's tragic, man. It's like, fuck man, my homie was in a dark place and I feel like he's finally out of it and then he gets fucking killed by a botched surgery. Yeah. But fuck, that's life, dude. Do you get your palms red?

No, that's woo-woo crazy shit. I would never do something like that. Do you go to tarot card readings? No, no tarot. I'm just trying to take the temperature here. You're sitting to some kinky shit. Bro, I'm just, here's the thing. I don't know what's real and what's not,

and I want to keep an open line. That's what it is. So if you want to fucking, you want to pull out a deck of cards and give me a fucking reading, I'll listen to you. I'll see what you got to say. I would make some shit up.

God, can you imagine me as a card reader for people? I bet people would fucking buy it, hook line, and sinker. I think I could break them. I think you could fucking. convince people that your readings are like authentic they change their the trajectory of their life dramatically I mean I would sell it for sure they fucking sell their house and get divorced here's the crazy thing a lot of people want to be told what to do most people do they want to be led like fucking lemmings so like all of these different things that people can look to for

guidance a lot of people ready to just jump right in like uh fuck there's a documentary on Netflix about a guy that had like 65 wives what Yes. How do you find the time? Bro, I watched one episode, and that's exactly what I told my wife. I said, this was pretty intriguing, but there's no way I'm going to continue this series because as an absolute waste of my fucking time. Yeah.

But he had 10,000 people following him. And he said, we all need to move to this piece of land because Christ is coming back. The whole world's going to light on fire. And this little section of planet Earth is going to be where it's the promised land. And that's where the chosen people need to be. And he was fucking little girls. It got dark. Like Colt shit always gets dark, right?

Yeah. And he got arrested and he's in fucking prison now for pedophilia. And people are still following him and believing his teachings and his, and like, people want that. And it's fucking crazy, dude. I hope that he has had his teeth knocked out with somebody, with somebody's dick. I know, right? Non-consensual. I, there are a few segments of humanity that I have.

zero empathy or less empathy for than pedophiles. Bro, they're, I mean, you want to go down some real dark conspiratorial rabbit holes. Are you going to put the three-piece tinfoil suit on right now? Well, here's the thing about the pedophilia stuff. A lot of people are fucking like deep, deep down that rabbit hole. I have no fucking idea. You know what I mean? And here, I'm never going to say something to be a fact or something that I can

I will say like oh I believe this is happening well why um I don't know you know like but they like the whole thing about how glissian Maxwell was or glane how's late how he's late she was convicted for trafficking children to nobody like they've never released all the details on that and there's some dark shit going on there that we're not being told I think at that you know the little, I don't think I can use a pyramid as an analogy because I feel like that falls into another type of conspiracy theory. That's like some Illuminati shit probably. Well, bro, you know, I'm part of the Illuminati. You are? You've heard that. How did you get recruited? Because there's the number 33 in my Instagram handle.

What the fuck does that have to do with the Illuminati? Bro, I have no idea. Also, why is there 33? Because it's, it's Granderson 33, because I was 33 years old and my name is Greg Anderson. And I was like, okay, G. Anderson 33. Really good foresight on that. Yeah, exactly. You're not 33 anymore. No, I'm not. I'm 41.

Bro, there's YouTube videos that are like, this motherfucker. He's hiding an open cover. He has a 33 in his Instagram handle, which means he's part of the Illuminati. And if you look in this shirt or you look in this video, he's wearing a shirt with an eagle. And that eagle is a sign of this and that. And that was actually eye opening for me because that's the other side of the tinfoil. shit. It's like you got some crazy motherfuckers that just completely run with shit and that's their truth. You know what I mean? They believe all this shit and dude it was a fucking vruca shirt

and it had like a bird on it and they're like that's a sign of the yeah no lauddy bird or whatever. Yeah you know. Fuck. Um and bro like I mean that fucking dude from Alaska that started like sending me messages do you remember because I sent you it because he was saying like I'm kind of coming for you and stump and jaco because you three people are the ones I realize are going to save planet earth but you have to listen to me and all this shit oh you did some of these yeah because i remember you said you're like oh i know that motherfucker i've got some oh he was in my patreon group i've got some messages from that motherfucker he has a substance abuse problem yeah and it's probably methamphetamine uh it's 100% because we used to do video calls i'm not a meth expert but i've

seen enough twitching from some people to realize that the little fucking dance moves are part of it. Yeah. Yeah. He's down some deep conspiratorial. He might be on the shoot on site list for me. Yeah. No. Fuck that guy.

Yeah. But he said, because he's like, you, Andy Stump and Jocko have been chosen to be the three men that saved the fucking world. And you need to listen to what I'm saying. Hard pass. Oh. So you're absolutely fucking insane. Yeah.

And bro, those, here's the crazy thing, dude. those are the people that just show up and fucking shoot people because they have some crazy fucking story that they've built in their mind. Yeah. And man, I think about that because if you're fucking, I don't care how fucking tough or badass you are. If I'm in the middle of a jitzy class, I'm a sitting duck.

Dude. You know what I mean? You know, my best example that I have and this sucks because it's tragic, but I was talking to a lot of the senior black belts who were from Brazil is Leandro Lo. Bro. Yeah.

Dedicated his entire life to training and his life was ended by a 10 cent round and one of the best to ever do it. Yeah. Bro, I woke up to a video texted to me by one of my Brazilian friends that was taken live at the scene of him getting drug out of there with a bullet hole in his head. Yeah. And I, dude, it made me sick to my stomach. I'm like, why did you fucking send me this? Like, fucking death and destruction that's never fucking really bothered me. But at the same time, I have nothing.

to gain from seeing his dead body drug out of the concert and it was just it just felt heavy because Leander Lowe Leander Lowe wasn't just a high level jiu jitza guy he was a high level jiu jitza guy that really transcended teams

and for people that don't know what I mean by that like check Matt Gracie Baja you guys are SBG like a lot of teams are kind of like Alliance there's alliance like that's their team right and there's a lot of loyalty to your team and your team is important for whatever reason Leandro Lowe had the pass to bounce

all over the place and train with everybody. Everybody loved him and he had like super positive energy and like he was one of Bouchet's best friends and he'd come train with the checkmat guys and he'd go train with the Atos guys and he'd go train with fight sport with cyborg and all

everybody had nothing but good things to say about him and then he was fucking ended over a he took the dude down. Did you hear that? So in talking to the guys, and again, I don't want to perpetuate information that may be incorrect, but they were pretty heavily tied into Brazil still. Apparently they knew each other. I guess he was a purple belt.

And there was like some peacocking when they first came in. I don't know who started that or what it may be. But that may be the one thing that actually gets the guy off is that he was taken down. I guess he did grab a bottle off the table. And here's the thing. I look at that situation. I'm like, holy fuck. How many times could that have been me?

Doing something fucking stupid, escalating something. And, you know, violence is, violence should be avoided at all costs until it's time for violence. And then you should have overwhelming violence until it's time to fucking leave. But I don't know how many times in my youth, like just the idiocy. And that fucking guy dedicated, he, so it was he, he was 30, is in his 30, right? 33. So probably 30.

years of training. Yeah. I bet you that fucker developed his movement patterns on the mats. Yep. That situation, who knows if it was completely avoidable, takes the guy down and the guy ends up blasting him right there, he can be the most deadliest high-level practitioner and it can all come to an end because that simple tool, you know, trumps all, like you said, if you're sitting in your school teaching and somebody walks in and you don't have

access to an equal or greater tool, you're fucked, man. You're fucked, man. It's a good reminder. Yeah. I mean, you know, obviously hindsight 2020 and in that situation who fucking knows how it'll play out in Brazil. They were kind of wargaming that. Some of them Brazilians were talking about the potential outcomes.

And I guess he was a military policeman. Yeah. So it'll depend on whether or not, A, if he is convicted, but B. I think he's fucked, man. It depends on if he goes to a military prison or a civilian prison. Yeah. That'll be the difference on his life expectancy. It's kind of weird how like certain deaths just impact you.

And his did, man. Like, I fucking, it made me, like, well up that morning because I was like, dude, I've dedicated 20 years of my life to jih Tjitsu now. And that dude's been an icon like the whole time. And he was just taken from us. Yeah. And there's just a part that hurts. And it's like, and I trained with a ton of the toughest, highest level guys in the world.

And I never even met Leander Lowe. But because he's part of our community, man, it feels heavy. And I also think it feels heavy because that's not what's supposed to happen to Jiu Jitsu guys. That's not part of that community. That's part of our old community. You know, when you'd lose buddies that get blown up by an IED or something, it would be tragic. But it would also, you're also driving down Route Irish in Iraq. Like, it makes sense, you know.

I also, I think it highlights, though, a blind spot for, and again, only been at this for a few years. I think it's easy to develop a blind spot that because we are with willing training partners in an environment where there are fucking rules. And we're actually concerned, like when you and I train, like, I'm concerned about your safety. I'm not going to go fucking crazy because, hey, I don't want to hurt myself. And I would feel even worse if I hurt you because I want to keep training. Bro, you literally said during today when we are drilling, hey, I want to make sure that when we hit this sweep, you land right so you don't hit your neck. Yeah.

Like, yeah, of course we're taking care of each other. But we're playing inside of a rule set and both parties are doing that. And it's a real easy blind spot to think that because every day you train with people who are in that same rule set, that anybody outside of the gym would respect that. And that's the difference. Nope, for sure. So it's a little bit of an artificial environment. Train hard and carry a fucking gun. Yeah.

And I've used my jih Tzu a couple times as a police officer or... One of my favorite videos is when you tackle that guy. Which I'm not going to call that jiu-suitzoo. That was just sprinting and taking a dude down. A dude tried to break into my house one time. I choked him unconscious and it felt like grabbing a child. Yeah. Just because he was untrained, right?

But the other side of it is like there's also people out there that are motherfuckers and something that I wonder about if I was in like a real world fight in a parking lot and I'm breaking a dude's arm and he's like tap tap tap tap tap would I let go I wouldn't I'm saying I hope I wouldn't because I'm here to break your fucking arm right this is real world fight yeah but I've armbard people 10,000 times and every time they tap I immediately let go and so I'm like in that moment would the with the pattern that I've developed be Would I execute or would I just snap his fucking arm? Depends on if he does the Henry escape.

Maybe I'll let go and be like, oh, no, no, this is a real fight. Give me that back. Snap. I think before you armbard him, you'd realize that he probably had trained. Because the instant you lock horns with somebody. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I'd be like, hey, fucker, how about we just go into the mats and figure this out? We don't need to do this on the gravel because that shit hurts.

Like that white belt today? Yeah. He had some shit. My theory on that is is off the mats. There's no tap. I agree with you. That's where my mindset is at. I'm just, I was thinking like, because of how the rule set that we've ingrained in our minds, would that throw you for a loop?

You have enough real world experience where I think you could isolate the two. And I also don't think you would apply it with the same velocity that you do your normal training partner. So you may not. I like, yeah. We're talking hit thrust. Here's the fucked up things. On one hand, we're like, avoid violence at all costs. And we're in our 40s.

And I reflect more on things. And that's not me anymore. but I do want to snap somebody's fucking arm and see what it feels like in real life. Yeah, but how, I mean, think about how far somebody would have to push you to actually do it. No, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I told you, I had a guy trying to break into my house.

And it's three in the morning and he's rattling my fucking front door. Is he shit-faced? Did I have, I never told you the story before? No. Oh, bro. First off, when was this? I was a blue belt at the time. Forever ago, right? But when I was a blue belt, I was also fighting MMA.

So I had a, and I didn't have like, Just a few cage fights just to get a feel for it, you know? And the girl that was living at my house at the time, she's like, there's somebody at the front door. And I was like, what the fuck, dude? And so... Where were you living? Lake Stevens, Washington.

Okay. Yeah. So I grab my AR and I go around the back and I pie around the garage. And bro, I have a fucking surefire on this guy. And I fucking blast him with the surefire and he's standing on my front porch. It's a flashlight for people listening. Yeah. And I'm like, what the fuck?

Because I'm not going to shoot a guy on my front porch. You know what I mean? I said, what the fuck are you doing in my house? And he turns around and he immediately starts saying, shoot me, motherfucker. I dare you. You fucking shoot me. And I was like, this should look like a flashlight, not a gun to him. How does he know that he is, you know?

He should be blind. Yeah, exactly. So he starts backing away from my front door. Now he's in my lawn. And now I move and now I'm on the front porch. And the girl that was living with me, her name is Michelle. I said, take my rifle, go and go and my rifle. go inside called 911

because he was wearing like tight jeans and a T-shirt and didn't look like he was armed could he had a little knife somewhere yeah so that guy stupid that was a tactical air like you know all the hate will come in

but uh bro four seconds I fucking sprinted at him arm dragged him rear naked choke and he was unconscious and it even surprised me because that was the first time I used jiu-jitsu in a real world application

and he was unconscious instantly and I was like oh fuck dude So I sat him on the ground and put both my hooks in and just sat in an upright position Kept the choke secure but loosened it so he wouldn't die and he came to and he's like I said if you want to keep fucking struggling I'll just keep putting you out you know waiting for the fucking cops cops show up and they take him into custody and the guy's like you guys got a fucking wrong this is my house he's the fucking one that's assaulting me in my fucking house and I said

I look at the cop I said listen he's obviously fucking high and drunk. I fucking live here. This is, I mean, the fucking call from 911 came from here. Maybe go show him the water bill. Yeah, exactly. He goes, look at my fucking ID, right? Pulls his ID

out. My address is on it. And the cop goes, oh, well, then explain this. Because now the cop thinks he's in some fucking... Now we get a weird situation, right? And I look at it, and I remember the name and I said, when I bought this house five years ago,

I remember I got a couple pieces of mail with this name on it. Previous occupant. And the cop goes, this guy says that he bought this house five years ago. And he looks up and goes, fuck, that's right. I rented a room here five years ago. I don't live here anymore. And I was like, that motherfucker just thought he was coming home. He was so high that he forgot that he didn't live.

However, he ended up trying to fucking get into my front door, He rented a room from the previous owner five years ago. And bro, if my front door was unlocked, there's a hundred percent chance. That dude's fucking dead now. Well, imagine he didn't train too. And you only had one option. Yeah, right? And so, and bro, my MMA coach, Charlie Pearson, who's a fucking legend, I went to practice that

night and I told him. And he's like, the first thing he said, he goes, I'm so fucking proud of you that you took the guy in the custody, you didn't hurt him at all. That's a martial artist in you. And I was like, fuck, man. because I could have fucking put him in a Muaytai clinch and caved his fucking face in. For sure.

You know? But Jiu-Jitsu, just like it does at practice, you can go hard but not hurt people. And now in hindsight, that dude was fucked up and he's an idiot, but he didn't deserve to have his face kicked in for getting drunk. And what I think probably happened

is he gave his ID to a cab. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's what I'm guessing happened because... It's the most likely way. How else did he end up at my house? And it was like 2.45, so like bars closed at 2 in Washington. And it's like...

He was in P. Cognitive 4. Yeah. You could tell like, I'm sure he just fucking gets out of the cabs. Like, this fucking looks familiar. Looks about right. Jesus. But I mean, and if I had killed that dude, I don't necessarily... I mean, this is going to sound cool.

But I don't think I would have felt bad because you walk into my fucking house in the middle of the night because you're so drunk. That's your fucking problem. Well, and you can only make... You could look at it in hindsight. and you only get the chance to make decisions based off the information you had in the moment. Exactly. Yeah. But another, I mean, an important takeaway, too, is they say, like, locking your car doors and locking your front door prevents the overwhelming majority of crime.

Yeah, because they'll go to the easier. Exactly. Like, fucking. Or putting a powerful light out in front of your house or just illuminating the property. If your neighbor has a totally darked out one, your odds of being skipped over, like, astronomically high. Yeah. My fucking property now is like a fucking penitentiary, dude. Dude, because I don't know how it is in Calisbell.

I actually saw some people begging on the side of the road, so you probably have a methamphetamine problem here too. I don't think anywhere that is rural has that. It gets a little methie as you get out of the city. But I've had meth heads come to my property to my gym and fuck shit up a couple times. Like vandalism? Yeah, I park my boat next to my gym. They should fuck that up.

They did. They tried to take my fuck. They tried to pull my outboards off and broke all the linkage and shit and it cost me five grand to fix it. I would like to give them a reward. Oh, bro, I know who he is. This is how fucked up the fucking

judicial system is. Because, dude, I was a fucking criminal investigator for 10 years. Like, I'm going to find you. So I went to offer up. Oh, look at this. There's my downriggers. Same fucking colored twine.

And there's these things called stop beads. When you're pulling your gear in, it stops the, and I use red stop beads. And I was like, yep. that's mine went to his house to buy him and uh his fucking 70 year old mom answers the door i'm like hey i'm here to buy some fishing gear oh that's my son he doesn't uh i don't know where he's at right now and i was like i just said straight up i'm like actually i just want to know how long your son's been addicted to methamphetamine and she's like i don't feel like talking to a stranger

about my son's addiction problems and i was like boom call the sheriff's office. Yeah. And dude, they're like, oh, great job, good investigation.

Uh, you got the guy. Never did anything. Because, dude, Western Washington is plagued with fucking petty thefts right now. And they just don't have the resources

to fucking prosecute stuff anymore. So, have you kept in contact with any of the guys on your old, uh, what did you guys? Municipality? Not really. I'm just curious how,

I have a couple friends that are, that are, that I did, I have stayed in touch. with. How was the culture for them? It was fucking bad for about, I mean, I got out of the perfect time. Yeah. Culture went to shit for about two years. But I would say things are starting to turn around a little bit. That's good to hear. Yeah, yeah. Morale is, is, the profession was so

fucking hated for so long. And, uh, I mean, just all the fucking propaganda about how worthless police officers on are. And, uh, man, people bought into that. And I tell people all the time, Are there shitty cops? Yes. And good cops need to call shitty cops out. And bro, I mean, I don't know if you saw that video today. Have you seen the AD that killed a young black kid? Stop it.

Bro, I'll show you when we get off the air. It's fucking dark, dude. He pies the corner. He has his pistol out. He pies the corner and goes, seize the guy and goes, bang. Oh, like startled response. And bro, that's why you don't have your finger on the trigger until you're ready to engage. Because the startled response can cause you to contract.

You can track your muscles and fucking killed the kid. So, and this just happened last night. So are we going to be on another cycle of fucking riots and people outraged? And bro, the thing about this one is, this one is a fuck up. Yeah. You know, sometimes. Where did it happen? I think Ohio.

I might be wrong on that, but I'll show you when we get off the air. Fuck. Yeah, bro. But I mean, here's the thing. Cops are also human beings. There's great cops. And then there's absolute shitheads. and there's everything in between.

Yeah. But in my experience, the majority of police officers are good-hearted people. That's the truth, you know? But my buddies that are still in are saying that it's starting to change, but it's not,

it's not the culture from the citizens that people are concerned about anymore. It's the command staff. Most police officers, and here's the thing, I was a police officer and I was a deputy in Seattle and Los Angeles. So very progressive left-leaning cities, right?

So if you're a cop down in Texas somewhere or like Aaron here, he loves me a cop here, right? But the culture on the West Coast is the leadership is very aligned with the progressive movement. And if you do something that is somewhat even questionable, it's clearly understood they'll fucking hang you out to dry. And that's a scary place to be professionally. It's going to freeze you. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. On any given day, if I make the smallest misstep, I'm going to get fucked, you know? Like who wants to live with that kind of uncertainty or that kind of stress?

So I know tons of cops that are looking to leave the profession or already have. And then the downside of that is hiring now. The numbers aren't where they need to be. No one wants to be a cop anymore. And so they're lowering the standards for new recruits. Oh, that's a good idea. Yeah, exactly. And, bro, the Washington State requirements to be a police officer,

it's like 12 pushups I don't I'll have to look them up but last time I looked them up I remember it's just like let's just have nothing because 12 pushups is basically nothing you know what I mean it's like 15 something minutes for your mile and a half time it's just what's the point

what's the point of a standard at some point you know I do like to watch videos of fit people out running fat cops I don't know what that says about me No, bro. But clearly the pace of the pursuing officer is not going to go in their favor. I have a real fucking problem. And I hold, I fucking go hard on fat cops on my show. Because here's the reality of being a police officer is that, sure, guys like you

and I have the skill set and the capability to defend our own household and defend our own family. But I'm in fucking Calisbeau right now. If my wife or daughter has to call 911, I should have the reasonable expectation that the man or woman that shows up at my house. has the capability to defend my family and sometimes that capability means you need to scale a six-foot fence You need to sprint down the street you need to run up a flight of stairs that's part of being a cop just like it's part of what our old job entailed the physicality of the job is something that is non-negotiable But for whatever reason through unions and through fucking like you know lawsuits and there's no fitness standard anymore

To get hired as a police officer you have to take that super fucking low-end PT tests. But after that, the department can no longer ask you to perform a physical fitness test. Really? Yeah. Fuck yeah. Don't you think those officers realize they're at risk, though?

They have to know. They have to know. Bro, I think a lot of fucking cops live in a world of it's never going to happen to me. I think it's true of a lot of people. And motherfucker, it's going to happen to you. You're on patrol. Patrol is not if it's when, period. And it's like, and the incident may be large or small,

but you need to have the training and you need to have the capability to fucking resolve the situation. Like the Yuvalde shooting, bro, you and I could have rolled up there with fucking two by fours. And I'd be like, bro, we have. Let's not get crazy. We both like guns. Of course. But I'm saying if all we had, bro, Andy, all I have is this baseball bat and you have a two by four. We're still going to go.

Well, there's kids being killed. Yeah, we're still going to go. Let's go. It's not even... I mean, I would push you at him and then make an awesome dynamic move and then come swinging. I would definitely go to your funeral, though.

I would like to say some awesome shit. Fuck yeah. Bro, it's... And the thing is, it's not even tough guy talk because it's... Here's the reality of it. If I sat at the end of that hallway while I knew children would be killed,

I would have to go out in the woods and eat my Glock. I wouldn't be able to look at myself in the mirror and feel like I get to continue this journey of life when my actions deprived all of those young people to allow them to have their journey. I mean, bro, there was a fucking dude there that's wife was in that room.

Did you see that? Yeah, he was the one who I think was looking at his song. And he's like, I'm going in. And his body's like, don't stop, stop, stop. Would that stop you? And then he stopped. That's what I'm saying. Like, bro, I would shoot my patrol partners

if that's what it took to save my woman. Like, if you think you're stopping me from saving my woman, well we have a fucking problem then but it's like the warrior mindset none of those guys had that and here's the deal like i'm not saying every person needs to have a warrior mindset but if you're in the profession of arms and you carry a gun for a living you better understand that a gun fight is a possibility they don't fucking issue you a gun and body armor because it's cool like and the profession of arms sometimes includes a two-way gunfight as you are intimately

fucking familiar with, right? And I just don't understand what, what possible other outcome they thought was going to happen by sitting at the end of the hallway for 77 minutes. And bro, I mean, yeah, we're beating a dead horse. Everybody's talked about this topic. Well, the guy I had on yesterday, the podcast, it'll be out the week before this one comes out, so people have already heard it. Because I asked, you know, officers who I have access to, like, what do you think? resoundingly the same and I said what do you think will change with that culture what do you think they should do and he said delete the department department and start over because he thought it was a cultural issue yeah yeah I think so too but but here's the other thing I don't think that that

cultural problem is just isolated to that department I think that cultural problem is infecting the profession as a whole and it's like the tough aggressive men that like would be guys that come from the special operations community or guys that want to be on the SWAT team like that is less and less appealing and they're moving more and more towards just like weak compliant yes men and again put the tinful hat on right like why would they be doing that is it because they want a department of people that are going to do what they're told i don't i don't fucking know but it just makes no sense to hire the weakest members of your society to be your protectors it should be the only ones that are applying and that's probably true too, you know? Because men and women that have self-respect and that know their worth and that know they have value, they're not going to go into a profession where they get shit on all day. You know what? It's also, you got to, you can't forget this too. It's easier to talk about what you're going to do in that situation than actually live it. For sure. No, 100%. The fucking punish your skull life is easy to talk about. And when fucking the one way range,

becomes a two-way range, the wheat is separated from the shaft. And that's like what I said about like the experience that I did have in combat for nothing else. It kind of validated me as a man. It made me know that, okay, where the rubber meets the road, I don't live in fear. And I am able to fucking run towards the enemy and actually fucking be courageous when I need to be. And you can be fearful while doing all of that. That's one of the things I think is the biggest miss. when it comes to what people look at from our previous careers,

oh, you guys must have been fearless. It's like, no, getting shot at sucks the biggest of dongs. But you still have to do your job. Yeah. So it's more about understanding that, managing that, and do your fucking job. Yeah, dude, something that I notice is it's like, when an ambush is happening, or when you're getting shot at,

in that moment, I don't feel like I felt much fear, just because, You don't have time to. In that moment, it doesn't serve you at all. It's, this is what I have to do to correct the problem. Like, what battle drill are we going to? Are we breaking contact? Are we taking the fight to them?

Like, we have decisions to make. It's, once you get back to base and everything, you set your kit down and it's like, or you go back and look at the vehicle that you're in, you're like, oh, the headrest has a fucking PKK round. Yep. That's crazy because that literally, that literally happened. to one of our level seven armored, it was a BMW. It zipped through?

It fucking hit. We got fucking hammered in an ambush in Ramadi. And all the cars got shot to fucking shit. An RPG went under the car in front of me and blew up the gas tank. And unlike Hollywood, all the gas just went out on the street, dude. And it didn't light on fire.

And we had run flats on all the tires, though. And we were at the government center. Have you ever been to Ramadi? Are you familiar with the city at all? I visited occasionally at night. Okay. So we were... I'm not super up on the topography.

Yeah, yeah. We were based at a little base called Blue Diamond, which was on the edge of the river there, on the outskirts of town. Okay. And then we would go downtown for different operations. But we were coming from the government center, which was like downtown on Route Michigan.

And we were coming back. And then they had put big Jersey barriers across the route. And it's like, well, we're getting funneled now. But what can you do, right? Like, and bro, like, people think that our enemy was stupid. They were not stupid. They developed their TTPs adjusted as ours did.

Yeah. And we fucking, fuck, dude. This is not the, you know, your primary, secondary, tertiary route. Well, we are now being dictated where we're at and we know it's about to get bad. And then we saw a second set of jersey barriers trying to force another turn. And that's where like, fucking reverse out. And as we reversed out, the fucking kill site was set up like 60 meters in front. And all the dudes on the rooftop saw that we were reversing out.

They're like, fuck. Get it where you can. Yeah, they all tried to get it where they can. And they fucking started hammering us, dude, as we fucking reversed out. And the gas tank got blown out of the car in front of me. And all the tires got flat. But with the run flats and just the fuel in the fuel lines, it was able to make it back to base.

Yeah, or at least get off the X. Yeah, and it's like, fuck, we were right on the verge of being in one of those like, was it clear and present danger with all the dudes on the rooftops? And at some point you're going to have to get out of those level seven cars. You're fucked, dude. My favorite tactic, though, is seize the low ground

and just fight up. It works. That's what you guys would have been in. Exactly. We got back to base, and the limo where our principal was, that fucking, the AICC, So the front right, a bullet had went right through where the door, the seam of the door, and PKM round lodged in the headrest, exactly like you said. And he cut that out, and he still has that fucking round because it was two inches behind his head, you know?

PKK is my least favorite enemy weapon system in face. It's a belt fit 300 win bag. Because it's badass. Yeah. It's like, oh, you're at 1,500. It's fine. A few cranks, guck, guck, gunk. It just, 300 windbag is my favorite round.

and that just shoots them automatic, essentially. Did you hear yesterday that the AR-15's bullet travels five times faster than any other round on planet Earth? Who said that? Your president. Our president. Yeah. Our president. Again.

Five times as fast. So 3,600 feet per second. Where does he get this information? Is he being fed or does he just randomly come? No, he's not Googling that, right? And so I'm sure somebody gave him a talking point, but who the fuck wrote that down? Bro, and then he said again, and he's like, and besides, if you want to fight the government, you'll be fighting our F-15s.

And I was like, dude, don't threaten our own citizens with our own military weapon systems and aircrafts. Like, what are we fucking talking about here? The beauty of that is, well, not the beauty. I don't think the military would ever turn on the civilian populace because it's their friends, family, communities. We are the fucking military. That's what I'm saying. You know?

It's like, okay, first off. What are we even talking about first off? You know what is? It's fucking ludicrous. It is. What's your favorite conspiracy theory? What's the one you devote the most time? Actually, let's go down the list.

Okay. Is the earth round or flat? Bro, I actually get fucking like irritated with flat earthers. Because I have some friends that are all like, bro, I think the earth is flat. But what's the end game there? Why would they hide from us the curvature or the flatness of the earth? I can't figure that. Most conspiracy theories benefit somebody somewhere.

Who the fuck is winning on the flat earth? Yeah, what's the end goal there? Yeah, I don't understand. I don't know. Ask someone to write in and tell you. I don't want to know. Write in and tell Andy why you think the earth is flat. No, not why you think it's flat.

Why? Who's making money off of that? Because most of these fucking conspiracies terminate in somebody making a lot of money. Okay, so, or getting empowered. When we were deployed to Iraq and you'd be on the phone with your wife. Yep. And it was nighttime. Was the sun up in America?

Yes. Yes. So, I mean, like, for me, okay. Also, I've navigated enough to, like, looking at a GPS and I'm out on, fuck, out in mountainous terrain. All right, this is the fucking, I'm going from this grid point to this grid point. And I follow this path. And now I'm standing on the peak of this mountain. like also why doesn't anybody have a picture of the edge of the flat earth exactly dude and enough people have circumnavigated the globe oh bro but have listen listen but have they listen this is a i forgot to tell you this is another thing that they said that i am part of the illuminati because part of my like in my 60s part of my fucking like one of my life goals is to buy a sailboat and circle the whole globe and i said that on a podcast or something and people were like he's saying that by saying he wants to

circle the globe. He's perpetuating the round earth theory. And he's lying because he's a British shill that's been in placed to perpetuate lies. And I was like, the British Manchurian Canada. Yeah, I like it. Me, of all fucking people. Okay. Aliens.

Aliens? I would say it's unreasonable to think there's not other life forms out there. Totally agree. But I don't think they're flying down here and then snatching people up. I think if they flew here, they would get the fuck out of here as fast as you guys are stupid but then the other side of that is i mean we do

have like military pilots that are like have you seen those videos that are like this fucking thing flew in front of me and took off at a speed that no aircraft that i'm aware of can fly yeah you know so there's some weird shit unexplainable for sure yeah bigfoot's another one i feel like there's too many game cameras out for big foot to not have been caught here's the thing for me I think that if Bigfoot were to be found, there's nothing strange about it. There's orangutanes, there's fucking gorillas, there's great apes all over the planet.

Okay, there's one in North America too, or there was at some point. That's why I don't think that when people talk about Bigfoot, it doesn't feel like a conspiracy theory. There's lots of large great apes. But I hope Bigfoot's real. Ghosts. Hauntings.

I don't know. I don't rule it out. anymore. I don't rule it out. You know, like I said, the older I get, the more. Now that you're spiritual. Yeah, exactly. Maybe you should go sit in haunted houses. I'll tell you this, though. I'll tell you this. I do think that there is positive and negative energy. And let me ask you this. Have you ever walked by someone? And this only happens very rarely. But dude, I was driving my girls to school the other day, and there was a guy standing at a bus stop that we were at a, we were at a traffic light,

so I was stopped and he was standing outside of the car. I wanted to shoot him. And I have No idea why. And I told... I do. I know exactly why. My wife and my kids were in the car and I said, there's something so fucking dark about that person right there. I want to kill him. I don't know if that's energy because your previous occupation taught you to pay attention.

For sure. To a lot of things that people don't pay attention to. So that's one that I always try to listen to my gut on. Because I have... It's happened so far at least one. once actually in jujitsu slapped and bumped and i immediately as soon as we locked up i'm like there's something and it's just the way that the person interacted yeah there's something fucking wrong with this person uh and i don't want him breathing oxygen anymore no and i just it and i and i made

a comment to lea at the time about it and don't fucking roll with that guy well and then come to find out that that there had already had already been issues but that gut feeling that's one that i think more than it being necessarily energy. That's, I think, a byproduct of our old profession. Yeah. And that's, I mean, and you got to think about it. I've ended people's lives based off their body reaction and how they postured to me.

So I'm always in the back of my mind paying attention to that. And that's one that I try to, I listen to my gut. Have you ever read the book, The Gift of Fear or heard of it? I've heard of it. It's written by Gavin DeBacker, and he's like a security specialist. And the whole premise of the gift of fear is fear is fear. Fear is a gift because your intuition lets you know when something's wrong.

Yeah. And he interviewed tons of rape victims. And like violent, like, snatched you off of running trail. Not like, oh, I got drunk with my ex-boyfriend. Not that I'm taking away from that, right? You're going to get crushed. Yeah, I know. But 100% of the girls

that were violent rape victims said something felt off right before I got attacked. So there is some type of... Or just animals. Yeah, the hair in the back of your neck. Or, I mean, I'm sure you felt that like before you get ambushed. Yeah. Man, there's something in the air.

It gets quiet. Yeah, you can feel it. You also see other people in the streets like the look in their eyes and shit. That's again, that ties into recognizing that because we were taught to. Maybe it's a combination of both. Let's leave that one in the unknown. But I'm going to tell you this, too. One more little piece on that.

When I was a deputy in Los Angeles, we had a cell block in the Roy Ball Federal Building downtown that would have anywhere from 20 to probably 70 inmates a day come through there. When you walk through the cell block, because most of the people that are being arrested in Los Angeles is like RICO conspiracy, which is all related to gang violence and drugs and pimps and that kind of shit. But the reality of those guys, a lot of them are cool dudes. You could sit down and have a conversation with gangbangers and they're not that different than us.

And that's the truth because I've gotten, I've had long conversations with them when they're in the back of my car and I'm fucking taking them to jail. but you walk through the cell block and you can see people what's he fucking doing here that dude's off there's something wrong with that guy go pull his file fucks little kids every time and so

like you said as a result of that profession predators you can fucking you can spot them you have a different antenna once you've been it's we learn to tune it to a different frequency yeah for sure yeah now anytime that I have that feeling in my gut like if I'm ever out with my kids or out

with Leah I just immediately put myself in between that and get the fuck out of there. Yep, for sure, dude. Yeah. Michael, what other conspiracies are there? We did aliens, we did Bigfoot, we did Flat Earth. There's, I mean, is there, well, hey, you've seen the meme that we're, there's now a shortage of conspiracy theories, because in the last 24 months they've all come true.

True. One of my favorites is that birds aren't real. They're just intelligence gathering platforms that the batteries have to be switched out on sometime. That's what COVID was for to get everybody inside so they could switch out the batteries and the birds. Is there really a human being that said that? Oh, yes. That's a real thing?

100% real thing. Okay. So what's your favorite conspiracy? I need to separate from the tinfoil hat community then. I just think our government's corrupt. That's the extent of my life. What's your favorite one though? Oh, fuck, man.

Politicians drinking blood, fucking chanting ceremonies. Bohemian Grove. That's kind of them drinking blood. Yeah, bro, I don't know, man. They're worshipping Mollock and all these fucking evil entities. Yep. I don't know, man. Alex Jones, that's fucking mine.

Alex Jones also said, uh, Sandy Hook wasn't real. Talking about the gay, the fucking frogs turning gay. I mean, is there even enough time to talk about the weird shit that Alex Johnson said? I mean, truly, that guy is also special and touched. He just got fined a substantial amount of money, right? 45 million, I think. I didn't even follow that story at all. What did he do?

He, uh, and I might be, I might be a little bit over my skis on this one, but essentially broadly said that Sandy Hook was, uh, crisis actors and families of the children that were killed sued him for that. Oh,

and then he got fucking. Yeah. He was found guilty. And bro, here's, here's something that people need to realize is, uh, because if you watch the videos,

it's like, hey, this is what proved Sandy Hook was a fucking like government conspiracy. man it's easy to start getting pulled one way or the other same with 9-11 that's what I'm saying they were you know Shawshank redemptioning in fucking C4 in their pocket yeah 18 years and like we've reiterated several times throughout the show like I don't necessarily put anything out of the realm of possibility but it's also I've also been pulled one way or the other based on emotions

and you have to be able to recognize that in yourself and be like okay I'm fucking, I'm buying into it, just like everybody else buys into it, but why? You know? Yeah. And, man, people can piece together things and present it to you in a way that's very convincing. And it's like, all right, now that's fact. That's people's fucking, and perception's reality, right? So if people fucking watch something or hear something and they perceive that as the truth,

then that's the hill they're willing to die on. And it's like, fuck, man. You get a little slippery. For sure, dude. The fuck else have we, what else did we not talk about? I want to show you the coffee shop. I want to see the coffee shop too. What do you want to close with?

Let me look at, I came with a little bit of notes today. I didn't authorize those notes. No, you did not. But, yeah, I mean, you didn't want to fucking hear about me walking around barefoot this morning, grounding with the earth, feeling the Montana sun. But I can tell you, bro, there's something fucking special about this place. In Montana? Yeah.

I know. That's why I live here. But it's like, you feel it. You feel it in the air. You feel it from the sun. Like, I don't know what it is, but I have friends that have a house here in Calisbell. Yeah, but by the, come up here once every year, too. Every time I come here, it's like, I think I need to fucking maybe not live here full time because I love Washington State.

Take the politics and take the fucking that shit out of it. Washington's one of the most beautiful places in the world. Every time I come here, though, it's like I want more Montana in my life. I don't think I'll ever leave. Yeah, I bet. I might go a little bit more. like out in the middle of nowhere, Unabomber style, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah, yeah. But I'm not going to make bombs. Well, fuck. Let's close with this then. If people want to hear more of my conspiracy theories and they like hearing me talk shit on the Talk shit on the government.

Shortly though. To tinfoil hat. Dude, I go hard. I go hard on my podcast. I don't pull any punches. That's so shocking. Because it's a fuck. A lot of media sources

want to fucking nerf all the edges and they want to push an agenda and I just try and give authentic shit you know and if I'm wrong I'm wrong if I'm right I'm right and everything in between you know but because people feel that energy from me the platform's grown and people are enjoying it and I think that that's uh people are moving more and more away from fucking traditional media platforms and they're listening to just normal human beings like us because we're nothing fucking special we're just fucking dudes right I mean I'm super normal I'm not sure But like we're not part of a fucking agenda. We don't have some fucking ulterior motive.

Just sharing real thoughts, real perspectives. And I think that's what people are hungry for these days. I agree. Ready to see the coffee shop? Let's go see the coffee shop.